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[{"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "Blake Cousins, we've got the special"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "report for you tonight. We've got"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "updates with regards to the bugosphere."}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "Haime Maan has a sitdown interview with"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "Dr. Steven Greer with insight of what"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "makes this thing tick, the science"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "behind it. In tonight's episode, we're"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "also going to be showcasing Daniel"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "Shehan and his statements about this"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "incredible"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "discovery. Are we on the brink of"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "something huge? Now, buckle up. We've"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "got the video. The audio was dubbed by"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "Haime Mosan in English via using an AI"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "voice. But the information is amazing"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "what's coming in. Thanks, Haime, for"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "sharing. Now, watch this. Go to see the"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "sphere. What did you find?"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "First of all, it is clearly an anomalous"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "object and I see it as having multiple"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "possibilities of origin."}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "But I think before we draw any"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "conclusions, we are doing some tests."}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "We have brought in very competent"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "scientists to look at the metallergy,"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "the composition of the metal at the"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "isotopic level which allows us to"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "determine whether it is from earth or"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "from outer space."}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "There are ways of doing this using"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "isotopes."}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "The other is that in the bugosphere"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "around the equator there are holes and"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "dark spots that contain a polymer and"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "this polymer contains carbon."}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "So, we are going to do some"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "state-of-the-art carbon 14 testing to"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "determine its age."}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "For example, it could be 2,000 years"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "old. And if it has been around for that"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "long, it predates any possibility of it"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "being a modern man-made object."}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "Another part of what we want to do is"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "look at some metals that could contain"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "oxygen in their composition."}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "There is a way of analyzing the oxygen"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "to determine whether it is from"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "terrestrial or space-based isotopes."}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "These are very detailed scientific"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "studies for which we have collected very"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "small samples."}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "What's interesting is that while we were"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "doing this and you also discovered this"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "in your studies with the polymer, you"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "see tiny almost microscopic optical"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "fibers. But the fascinating thing is"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "that there are optical fibers."}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "This is not something that we would"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "manufacture in the modern era with our"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "machines."}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "It's an integral part of the structure"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "as if it were molded in one piece with"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "all these components integrated into the"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "structure of the bugosphere."}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "And this is not the typical terrestrial"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "fabrication that we know of unless it"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "comes from a very ancient civilization"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "that theoretically could have existed"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "thousands of years ago and had contact"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "with an extraterrestrial civilization."}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "This brings us to the question of its"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "age."}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "Has it existed on Earth for a long time?"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "Hundreds or thousands, maybe tens of"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "thousands of years in theory."}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Is it of extraterrestrial origin? Or"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "does it come from an Earth civilization"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "that could have had contact with"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "extraterrestrial people or even beyond"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "that hundreds of thousands of years?"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "with an advanced human or non-human"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "civilization."}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "This brings us to the question about the"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "mummies since they are clearly not homo"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "sapiens or humanoid, but they do have"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "human humanoid formation."}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "So if they come from a similar period,"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "there could well have been an"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "extraterrestrial civilization in South"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "America or different parts of the world"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "that had these technologies that we"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "don't know about."}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "So these analyses will give us clues"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "about how they might have evolved."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "Now clearly the way it's spun, I'm"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "convinced those videos are legitimate."}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "It weighs about 10 kg or 22 lb."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "something like that heavy moving as much"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "as it did with the need for a solid"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "power source and also to keep it from"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "moving because there were no rockets or"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "propulsion."}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "So this goes into a whole area of study"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "of the science of UFO motion. How do"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "they get from point A to B without fuel?"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "Where does the power come from? And how"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "do they cause this levitation effect?"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Because it was clearly floating and"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "moving like this through the atmosphere"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "until it hit the power line, which I"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "think shorted out and then it landed on"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "the ground."}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "When you look at it, it's almost like a"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "real three-dimensional object. It's"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "certainly anomalous in the way it flies."}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "It can't be explained with conventional"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "aerospace technology."}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "It looks quite old, but at the same"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "time, it's decorated with handdrawn"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "engravings. And we found that some of"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "those symbols were seen by a military"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "man,"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "a green beret who was at an underground"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "base in Indiana."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "And this gentleman, we just interviewed"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "him last week, and he saw an"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "extraterrestrial communication device"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "that then created almost like a"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "heatwave. And on it, as it got closer,"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "there were all these symbols. Four or"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "five of them are on the bugosphere at"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "the top at the North Pole."}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "All right. It's It's interesting. We got"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "Dr. Greer over there in Mexico looking"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "at the bugosphere. Himan, we're in close"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "contact. We're asking him to see a a"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "flight performance by the boogers in"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "front of our cameras. We'll see and let"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "you know when that happens. But now in"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "this next clip, after you heard what"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "this Dr. Greer stated, he believes this"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "the videos are legitimate and there's a"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "lot of anomalies on this that makes you"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "think that this could be the biggest"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "discovery that the world's ever seen."}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "Now, Daniel Shean, constitutional"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "lawyer, speaks up. He was there and he"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "had some statements that's quite curious"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "with regards to this. Listen."}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "And this issue of UFOs and the possible"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "extraterrestrial civilization that at"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "least many of these sightings represent"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "is the most important news in the"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "history of our human family. And I ended"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "up representing the media."}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "I tried the case that established the"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "right of journalists in the United"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "States to protect their confidential"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "news sources to protect whistleblowers"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "from unjust authority."}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "As you know, I represented the New York"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "Times as part of the legal team to"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "obtain the right to publish all of the"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "top secret classified documents that"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "reveal the unjust decisions that were"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "made during the Vietnam War."}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "So I developed a practice like this and"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "that's why I've been working with the"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "UFO people who are trying to uncover"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "this and make it public."}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "And this is the most important issue"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "and related things like the Naza mummies"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "as they call them and the sphere. These"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "are things that potentially unlock"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "secrets about the UFO phenomenon. And"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "that's why we want to be very careful"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "not to let national security take over"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "this."}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "Could they? Oh yes. Just like the United"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "States, the US military went into"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "Mexico, expelled the military, and took"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "UFOs that crashed in Mexico. Just"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "snubbing the Mexican government."}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "They're not going to get away with it."}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "This time the people through you and"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "your offices have had access to this and"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "have ensured its legitimacy."}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "You also with the bodies played a"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "critical role in protecting it from"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "falling into the hands of the national"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "security state and you are working to"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "share the information with the people."}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "That is the key. I am the ombbudsman. So"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "I am here to help with that to protect"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "this."}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "So it would not be a good idea to take"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "the sphere to the United States to"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "investigate it there. No. No. You must"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "not enter the jurisdiction of the"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "national security state of the United"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "States."}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "You must not even try to take it to"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "Congress."}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "What would happen is that immediately"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "the intelligence agency would go to the"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "intelligence committee and the"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "intelligence committee would go to the"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "armed services committee and say this"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "has military potential."}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "This is a new form of levitation in"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "communications or something like that"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "and they would confiscate it. So you"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "cannot go there."}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "You must not bring this to the United"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "States."}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "They could come here and look for it as"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "long as care is taken. And they make"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "sure that the Mexican government, as"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "we've seen, has tried to get everyone to"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "turn over their photographs if they're"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "willing to assert their continued"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "resistance to the unjust actions of the"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "Mexican government."}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "And if they're resistant to giving in to"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "the demands of the US intelligence"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "community, we can protect this."}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "And I'm confident that we can protect"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "this because if we start from the"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "beginning, make it clear that they're"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "preparing to resist this and we put the"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "right legal structures in place, we can"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "protect these secrets."}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "So this should stay and be investigated"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "here. Yes, it should be investigated"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "here in Mexico. Yes. by Mexico, well by"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "any international scientist."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "And if they bring them here, they have"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "them come in and do the inspections to"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "collaborate with the university so that"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "the experts are available and they share"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "the information."}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "This open-source flow of information as"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "it develops will allow people to"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "participate in the investigation."}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "So, it's a good idea to open up the"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "investigation and let people know"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "whenever we do something. That's right."}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "Treat the research as open source. Then"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "invite people to participate so that"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "they can observe the research regardless"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "of how it unfolds so that they can trust"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "If we find any evidence that suggests"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "there might be some question about"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "whether some group of human beings did"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "this, well, we'll follow it wherever it"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "goes. Okay."}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "What would I do right now?"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "I think the important thing is to get"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "what we call the legal identity of the"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "research group exactly who they are and"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "under your opaces and in collaboration"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "with the university set up a legal"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "entity and work with the people who"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "found the object and who had the"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "original videotapes to bring everyone on"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "board."}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "We want the working group that's doing"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "the research to put a charter in place"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "for them and for us stating that this"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "information is going to be confidential"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "to the public and it has to be in"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "writing."}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "So when the back and forth occurs, when"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "the Department of Homeland Security"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "intervenes and realizes that if the"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "investigation deviates from that"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "direction and it is an extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "entity, if the bodies are"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "extraterrestrial or if there is some"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "evidence of extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "intervention, they want this to be"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "available to the public."}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "So it's pretty wide open right now."}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "Daniel Shehan made some provocative"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "statements right there. I want to get"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "your comments with regards to what he"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "just stated about the bogusphere. Again,"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "this uh story is breaking. Dr. Greer was"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "down over there in Mexico with the"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "Congressman Eric Bernson and his"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "statements with regards to what he just"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "witnessed and being in close proximity"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "to the boophhere. Now, we're getting"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "lawmakers from from the United States"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "showing up, congressmen, scientists to"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "look at this. And now things are"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "starting to get exciting right here at"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. Give us a big thumbs"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "up. Now let's uh listen to what Eric has"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "to say. The congressman again. We're"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "breaking the news and we want to thank"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "Haimey for sharing this. The audio dub"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "was featured in Jaime used some AI to"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "audio dub over this. We're we're using"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "what he sent us. So we want to thank"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "Haimey for letting us share this right"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "here at Thirdphase Moon. Now let's hear"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "what the congressman has to say. Listen"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "up."}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "Congressman Eric Burlington, welcome to"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "Mexico."}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "What is the current situation in the"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "United States Congress regarding the"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "investigation into UAP?"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "Yes, the good news is that we have a UAP"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "task force, a disclosure task force that"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "deals with everything related to the"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "secrets that the federal government has"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "kept hidden for decades."}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "These topics include the JFK"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "assassination, the assassination of"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "Martin Luther King Jr., the Epstein"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "list, and UFOs."}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "I focus specifically on the UFO"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "phenomenon and leading that initiative."}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "Are they helping? Are they getting"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "closer? Is it difficult? It is extremely"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "difficult. It is very, very, very"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "difficult."}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "We tried reaching out for a long time,"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "but we didn't know who to talk to and"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "our staff and the oversight committee"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "staff didn't know who to talk to because"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "if you don't know where to look, you're"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "just wasting your time."}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "So, finally, when some whistleblowers"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "came forward, that helped us a lot."}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "David Rash, a whistleblower who came"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "forward two years ago, and I found him"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "credible, which is why I hired him as a"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "part-time consultant to help us get to"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "the bottom of it."}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "But in that process, it doesn't mean"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "that we haven't been blocked because"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "we've been repeatedly blocked from"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "getting information about government"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "programs that they, our own leaders, our"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "own members of the House, the leader,"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "the speaker of the house, etc. have"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "denied us access to"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "why?"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "That's a question I have for you because"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "I just found out this weekend there's an"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "individual Tim Phillips who was at Aro."}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "He's come out in several interviews"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "saying that he wanted to tell Congress"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "about these vehicles and that he wanted"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "to provide that information, but the"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "leader denied him access."}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "They don't want us to know. They say we"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "don't need to know."}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "When do we need to know?"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "Because this is the most important issue"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "for humanity for its future."}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "Yes. Yes. Potentially it is."}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "Well, we look forward to your work."}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "We follow very closely what you do, what"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "Anna Paulina Luna does."}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "Timberchay, you are our heroes because"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "we know that if there's anyone capable"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "of doing this, it's you."}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "Otherwise, we're lost. We're lost again."}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "Yes. Well, we're trying. We're trying"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "with the resources that we have."}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "So, we're diligent. They have several"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "members focused on this. And this is not"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "something that if we look back in the"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "last 10, 20, 30, 40 years, there were no"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "members in Congress. Actually, very few,"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "maybe one person. But now they have a"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "team of people who have mobilized to try"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "to find the answer."}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "It's very different now. It's very"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "different. And Anapina Luna mentioned"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "recently that there's going to be a new"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "hearing very soon. Do you know anything"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "about that? A new hearing? Yes. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "we're working on a hearing."}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "David Brush is working with us to"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "provide people who we think might be"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "good firsthand whistleblowers because so"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "far the only people who have come"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "forward are those who have had direct"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "contact at this upcoming hearing."}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "We're going to focus on people who"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "actually drove crash rescue vehicles,"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "who actually handled the bodies, who had"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "direct contact."}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "Well, here in Mexico, we have physical"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "evidence. We have the bug sphere. Yes."}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "Consider that possibility. Yes. And I"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "think it's a very intriguing object."}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "It's fascinating."}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "It's fascinating because it could be"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "highly technological on the inside, but"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "on the outside when you look at it, it"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "doesn't look precisely made, it looks"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "like it's handcrafted."}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "I'm open to learning what's inside and"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "especially some of the studies that will"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "be done, possibly the samples that will"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "be collected with some of the scientists"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "who are here today to collect those"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "samples."}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "All right. So Eric Berles, the"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "congressman, had some provocative"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "statements. He's a Missuran and he's"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "been a private in the private sector for"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "about 20 years and now being elected as"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "a lawmaker. It's interesting that he"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "showed up with Dr. Steven Greer to find"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "out and get some questions. It would"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "have been nice to see Tim Burchett on"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "location and I'm sure he's in close"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "proximity uh to uh the information"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "coming out and uh Tim Burchett's"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "featured in our latest documentary,"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "Asymmetric to Disclosure. It's out right"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "now. The link is in the description. But"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "uh right now guys, you're here for the"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "UFO videos. Well, you're in the right"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "place. Third Phase of Moon. We've got"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "some new ones for you tonight. And this"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "one, it's it's interesting. It looks"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "like a camera flash, like the paparazzi"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "UFO, just watching civilians on the"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "ground. I don't know, guys. Let me know"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "what you think. We're going to roll the"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "video coming in just moments ago."}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "Take a look at this."}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "No, it's like a freestanding camera."}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "It's like taking flash pictures."}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "There's an airplane about to go over it."}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "That is so weird."}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "It's like in the cloud."}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "All right, we're going to get a close-up"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "look on this. Uh Brent just stepped into"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "the studio and we're looking at this"}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "together and we were thinking, could"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "this be some kind of reflection off a"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "glass or a window pane? And I don't"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "think so. What we're looking at, it's up"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "there in the sky. And look at the"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "illuminated flash coming off this drone"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "that appears and then disappears."}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "There's nothing up there to indicate a"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "solid object except these two bright"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "lights. Yeah, like this is a pretty"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "cool. I just dropped in. We did see it"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "change color there for a little bit, but"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "I don't think that this is any means a"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "reflection off a window. This is"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "something that somebody's filming"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "outside and they're getting a perfect"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "vantage point of this craft kind of"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "blinking in and out of existence cuz you"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "see it and then you don't. It just pops."}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "Boom. Get it. It's amazing this kind of"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "a transformation of a physical to"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "non-physical. You It basically"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "disappears out of thin air."}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "Yeah, I'm looking at this and I'm"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "appreciating everybody in this live"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "premiere leaving your comments and your"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "opinions of the phenomenon, what we're"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "looking at. And everybody's justified."}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "We weren't there on the scene, but when"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "you listen to the the lady on the"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "ground, her reaction, she's just amazed."}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "Like, she's thinking that somebody's"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "taking pictures of her, but where's the"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "camera? Where's the camera person? We're"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "just seeing a flash of light with no"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "means of structure behind it. So, we're"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "deeming this a legitimate UFO. It's"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "unidentified. It's flying up there. And"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "uh yeah, hats off to the person, the"}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "eyewitness that captured this and posted"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "it to social media. Again, we've got"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "more videos just into third phase of"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "Muna. But before we get to it, I just"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "want to urge everybody, don't forget"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "asymmetric disclosure. It's available"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "right now, Amazon, Apple TV, and uh let"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "me tell you, Dr. Greer and the upto-date"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "information you're going to hear in this"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "documentary. We expedited it as fast as"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "possible to get it out to the public."}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "Again, take a look, the genius link."}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "Now, let's get to the next video right"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "here at Third Phase of Moon. Give us a"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "big thumbs up. Watch."}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "Right. We're going to look at this"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "again. What is it? A flying cube. A"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "sphere. We can see it rotating left to"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "right. I thought it could have been"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "maybe something to scare away birds."}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "Some kind of reflected device to scare"}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "off the things from the crops, but I"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "don't know. It looks like it's"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "levitating to me. Brent, what's your"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "thoughts on this? Broad daylight. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "these are the things people say create"}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "crop circles. I'm not sure. We need to"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "get a, you know, closer look at this"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "thing, but it's a good it's good call to"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "film this. If you see it now, you just"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "need to get right on it and solve this"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "mystery."}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "Yeah, I'm digging this footage. It's uh"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "it's definitely not manipulated and it's"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "100% legitimate. No AI. Now, we wanted"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "to make everybody Be aware asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "disclosure. It's available right now"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "worldwide"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "streaming in all the countries around"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "the world. And it's easy. You could"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "watch it. It's a genius link. It's in"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "the description below. Take a look at"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "it. Everybody be safe. Keep your eyes on"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "the skies. Buckle up for asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "disclosure."}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "We'll see you next time."}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "So you really have to have a select"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "individuals or certain industries and"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us. Oh"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "yeah. People are all talking about World"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "War II and all that. Well, um you know,"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "if we don't change the trajectory we're"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "on, we're going to be in a big problem."}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "Nobody with any sense wants fortune and"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "glory dealing with this. That's the"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "mistake that they all make."}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "Blake Cousins. We've got the special for"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "you tonight. Asymmetric Disclosure. It's"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "about to drop worldwide tonight, 12"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "midnight, right here in Los Angeles. But"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "in tonight's episode, we're going to be"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "giving you exclusive cuts from this"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "groundbreaking documentary that's going"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "to blow your socks off. We speak with"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "Dr. Steven Greer, Congressman Tim"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "Burchett, aerospace historian Jim"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "Goodall and Michael Schat, including"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "Billy Carson. This documentary is on the"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "front line of disclosure. So, right now,"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "just buckle up, hang on tight, because"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "we're going to show you the inside of"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "what Disclosure is all about. Let's roll"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "the first clip."}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "We are back with a Fox News alert. We're"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "waiting to see how Israel responds to"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "Iran's unprecedented attack this"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "weekend. The IDF says this launch of so"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "many missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "into the territory of the state of"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "Israel will be met with a response."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "World War II has never been closer than"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "it is right now. Oh, yeah. People are"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "all talking about World War II and all"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "that. Well, um, you know, if we don't"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "change the trajectory we're on, we're"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "going to be in a big problem. And the"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "biggest one is the fact that there are"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "covert programs targeting ET vehicles."}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "And those programs are jeopardizing the"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "Earth for sure."}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "The US military shooting down a fourth"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "unidentified high altitude object"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "Sunday. The military needs to have a"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "plan to not only determine uh what's out"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "there, but determine the dangers that go"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "with it. We've warned of this for over"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "30 years. Veron Brown warned about it."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "Um, and you know, since I spoke with you"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "last,"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "I was at a um, western two western black"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "sites where they have operations that"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "are actively"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "um, targeting and in a sense hijacking"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "ET vehicles with some very high techch"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "systems and then moving them into an"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "area where they're struck with"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "electromagnetic pulse scaler weapons."}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "Can disclosure prevent World War II from"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "happening right now. The entire planet"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "is on edge all this action in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "East and we're on top of it in this"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "documentary. It's amazing that how up"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "tod date we have put this out as fast as"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "possible. Battle for disclosure just 4"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "months ago made its worldwide appearance"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "now on its heels. The latest with"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "regards to the front line of disclosure."}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "Asymmetric disclosure is about to drop."}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "We've got a second clip for you. It's"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "interesting. Can ET prevent worldwide"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "catastrophes? Dr. Greer says it's simply"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "a matter of pushing the button. Watch"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "this. I had known about and he confirmed"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "a program where they were able these"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "covert programs using these advanced"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "technologies were able to move an"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "asteroid that was in a position from the"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "sun so it wouldn't be seen soon enough"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "that would skim over the Atlantic and"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "Pacific oceans that would cause massive"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "tsunamis and wipe out the coastlines all"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "around the world. and the ET"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "civilizations intercepted this and"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "avoided that catastrophe. 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So"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "far, there's no one who's really been"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "ready ready to run with this in the"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "Congress on a deep way, a meaningful"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "way. But then you add in the fact that"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "people have died and now they've turned"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "it over to private entities, quasi"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "government corporations that have been"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "created and that have profited off this"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "knowledge. and you'll never be able to"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "get to it because the the line is is is"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "clearly broken by someone dead. So, the"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "only way you're going to get to it is"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "The ET intervention, is it possible?"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Apparently, it is. And we're in close"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "cooperation with the ET presence and the"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "prevention of a cataclysmic disaster."}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "It's interesting. But what is crazy is"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "what some of these people say when we"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "ask them the big questions at asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "disclosure and what's happening next. We"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "ask the big questions of Congressman Tim"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "Burchett and about this new transition"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "of power right there at the top the"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "White House. Can the president bring"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "disclosure? We discussed it. Here's an"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "exclusive clip of asymmetric disclosure."}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "Watch this."}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "But I'm hoping there will be a critical"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "number of these people who will come"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "forward and this asymmetric disclosure."}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "Asymmetric meaning that it's not going"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "to come out of the White House or"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "Congress. It's going to come out from"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "out here uh from the people who are"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "concerned citizens who've learned"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "they're in an illegal project who want"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "to set it right. Right. So I'll tell you"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "what one of them said to me. They were"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "driving me around in an armored vehicle"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "and he said, \"Thank you for what you're"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "doing for those of us stuck on the other"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "side. They're stuck in this illegal"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "black world. They want out and that's"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "what we're trying to do is give them a"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "path out. But the Congress is totally"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "dropped the ball on this. Now, we'll see"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "if the incoming president will will do"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "it.\" I interviewed jet pilots"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "that say they saw something and they"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "said we saw things sir that"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "were were very strange like a round ball"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "but it wasn't a comet or a meteor it was"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "something and it was going four times"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "faster than an F-22 which is a very fast"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "plane you know. So you've been to some"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "of these classified meetings in the"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "skiff obviously you've seen things can"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "you go into any detail what's the most"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "What's the most insightful thing that"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "you've seen that compels you to believe"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "that we're not alone?"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "Just uh let me figure out how to say"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "this."}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "How far does the power go? Is the"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "president privy to all the all say all"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "of the information with regards to"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "disclosure? That's the big question and"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "we pose it to the people in power,"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "especially the congressman Tim Burchett."}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Now, this next clip we're going to get"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "into, it's all about the private"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "corporations. According to aerospace"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "historian Michael Schat says it's all up"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "to them. Will they reveal the technology"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "that they've been harnessing for over 80"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "years now? We delve deep into that"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "question. Here's a little inside clip of"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "asymmetric disclosure with my discussion"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "with aerospace historian Michael Shrat."}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "Listen up. The evidence is clear that"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "we've made a breakthrough and the United"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "States military industrial complex will"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "stop at nothing to control the high"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "ground because when you control the high"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "ground in a battlefield, you win. Again,"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "what do you think Washington needs to do"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "to uh get this closure to the public or"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "are they just going to remain silent"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "like they are and it's give us a run?"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "It's in the hands of the defense"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "contractors at this point. It really is."}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "All of the classified programs, they're"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "really under the jurisdiction of the"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "defense contractors. It's debatable how"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "much political force you can exert on"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "this. And so that's why I think it's"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "important to really drill down on the"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "crash retrievalss in conjunction with"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "the defense contractors. That's how"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "we're going to get disclosure."}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "So when it comes to DC and disclosure,"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "what do you think is the biggest thing"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "our politicians are missing? Uh the"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "president's missing, Congress,"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "what's their problem? Why can't we just"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "get disclosure? The big problem is that"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "they haven't taken the time to get read"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "in properly. In other words, to"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "understand this subject, you know how"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "complex it is and they're so busy and"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "distracted with so many other things"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "that the most informed person in the US"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "Congress"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "would be a couple of the guys on Senate"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "Intelligence and Armed Services and"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "they're not really out of training"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "wheels. They don't have enough"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "information yet to even make a proper"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "assessment. and by a proper assessment."}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "According to Shrat, the crash retrieval"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "is where everything is. That's the holy"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "grail to disclosure and maybe some kind"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "of power at the very top to raid some of"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "these private corporations. And if"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "they're holding anything alien in"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "nature, alien technology, they're"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "required to release it to the world,"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "unless a little national security. We"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "get that. Now, what's insane, some of"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "the rabbit holes that this documentary"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "goes down, this next one had us really"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "amazed about what was being stated about"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "the disinformation"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "with regards to disclosure. These"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "whistleblowers coming forward, second,"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "third hand. There's been some remarks"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "recently made and we're on the cusp in"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "this documentary about the"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "disinformation, the government putting"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "out disinformation agents to sway theory"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "of the phenomenon. Take a look at this"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "clip right now. Asymmetric disclosure"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "and exclusive."}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "I've concluded that since there's no"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "bandwidth in the Congress at this time"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "to be able to do proper hearings cuz"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "what what you saw recently was just a"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "dog and pony show is ridiculous. Anyone"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "who would look at the 2001 disclosure"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "project event, you'll see 22 witnesses,"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "every one of them more substantial"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "firsthand than anyone who was up here uh"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "recently on Capitol Hill. So, you know,"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "everyone in my world are going and"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "particularly the the military and the"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "top secret whistleblowers are going,"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "\"This is just ridiculous.\" Oh, I always"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "say, \"Dad gamut, after these miserable"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "hearings, they're bogus.\" Look, and I"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "could have answered every one of those"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "dadum questions and and you know it and"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "I know it. I know more about this than"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "than the average bear. I guess maybe"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "that's the scary thought, but this"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "thing's a cover up. Was I a little bit"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "disappointed in some of the responses"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "from the witnesses? Yes, we've got some"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "great stuff, but you know, I I'm not"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "interested in hearing about people's"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "books. I'm hear I'm interested in"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "hearing about whether or not people can"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "answer the questions cuz we are trying"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "to get this into the archives so that"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "people have access to the information."}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "And so, I wish there was a little less"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "pitching and more talking."}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "So, what's next? Here's what's next. Um,"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "we've concluded that and we have someone"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "who's under nonofficial cover, very"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "senior aerospace and intelligence who"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "I'm meeting with."}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "Just recent times, the disinformation"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "agents being released by the government"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "to sway the public of the thought"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "process of the phenomenon has just been"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "revealed to the public. this cover up of"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "the information and trying to lead the"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "public don't look here while what's"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "going on on the backside and we discuss"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "it heavily. Dr. Greer goes down into the"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "hidden dangers of disclosure and how"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "dangerous it could really be for the"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "person who has the technology in their"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "hands and to go public in the right way"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "without being taken out. Listen to this."}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "This whole subject UFOs ETS that's not"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "the big issue. It's it's the technology."}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "It's a it's a science and technology"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "story because you're talking about"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "bringing out science, technology,"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "information that would alter the world"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "forever in a very good way, but it would"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "terminate a thousand trillion dollars"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "worth of assets, corporate oil, gas,"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "coal, jet engines, rockets, car engines,"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "all of it's obsolete. So for that you"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "know I mean people are killed for a lot"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "less than that. So that's the big"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "problem and these inventors"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "um you know just don't understand that."}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "Now the CI director understood but he"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "still wanted to play the you know spy"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "versus spy game. The mistake he made was"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "not um setting up a system so that if"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "anything happened to him, that"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "technology and all of it would hit the"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "internet and hit the public. If you"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "disappear, you're the tree that fell in"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "the woods. Nobody ever heard about the"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "problem. And what good does that do? He"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "lost his life and the technology didn't"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "get out. So, who who coined a dead man's"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "trigger uh me phrase? That was yours."}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "Mhm. And uh how many people are in your"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "connection of circles if something were"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "to happen to you and you release this"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "information? How many people disclosure"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "it's a dangerous game and Dr. Greer is"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "on the front line trying to get the"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "information that's been held from us for"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "over 80 years dealt to the public. Third"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "phase moon's also on the front line"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "bringing the latest documentaries with"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "regards to disclosure. Here is the"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "trailer again dropping tonight 12"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "midnight right here in Los Angeles. The"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "links below. It's worldwide asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "disclosure. Take a look at the trailer"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "right now. You're either on the side of"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "the law or you're not."}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "happen."}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "apart. Everybody wants to be in there"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "can give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "that's like. That organization has had"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "Serious questions tonight a growing"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "number of drone sightings."}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "How do you set up a believable false"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "flag and operations that looks like it's"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "alien when it isn't?"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "Which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "They put it into secrecy. They deny deny"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "and then they shut the people up."}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "and the president doesn't know about."}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "That is an existential threat to"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "humanity."}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "Asymmetric disclosure available right"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "now. The link is below in the"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "description. It's a genius link. It"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "takes you to the platforms. Amazon"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "Prime, Apple TV. It's available"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "streaming 12 midnight right here in Los"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "Angeles. Everybody be safe out there."}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "Tell your friends about this latest"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "groundbreaking documentary."}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "You won't be disappointed. Everybody"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "keep your eyes on the skies. Blake"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "Cousins. We'll see you next time. You're"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "either on the side of the law or you're"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "not."}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "happen."}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "apart. Everybody wants to be in there."}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "Can you give any kind of sneak peek of"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "what that's like? That organization has"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "had the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "serious questions that I admit a growing"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "number of drone sightings. How do you"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "set up a believable false flag and"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "operations that looks like it's alien"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "when it isn't?"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "They're not stunned. 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[{"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase Moon. Blake"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "Cousins. We've got breaking news. There"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "was an attempt by an impostor who posed"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "as a Mexican police officer to steal the"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "bugosphere. Dr. Greer has a report."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "Hello everyone. This is Dr. Steven"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "Greer. I'm in Mexico City. As you many"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "of you know, we've been examining the"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "bugosphere for the last two days with"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "Congressman Berles and a group of"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "scientists. We've just been notified by"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "Haime Mason that there was an attempt by"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "fake policemen um to enter the vault"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "where this bugosphere is stored and we"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "have notified security in the apparatus"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "I'm working with under law enforcement"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "and the you should know that the other"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "risk here is that we have taken specific"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "samples from the bugosphere that will be"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "tested in a state-of-the-art lab to"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "prove prove whether or not the metal as"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "well as some of the other components are"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "of earth or outer space origin. Those"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "scientists information have been"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "provided to the top law enforcement and"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "security apparatus that I'm working with"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "and so any sort of attempts to interfere"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "with this examination will be known and"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "the people and perpetrators will be held"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "to account for. So, this is uh what I"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "wanted people to know and uh we're doing"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "everything to set up security for this."}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Thank you. So, we've got the breaking"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "news right here at Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "An attempted robbery, an inside job."}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "Imposters posing as military police"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "officers is still possibly the holy"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "grail of euphology, the the world"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "itself. If indeed the bugosphere is"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "legitimate, obviously somebody's going"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "to want to come and uh confiscate this,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "maybe bring it in the deep program. But"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "this is what disclosure looks like in my"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "opinion. You put it out there to the"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "public. It's so big, you can't stop it."}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "And um right now, this attempted robbery"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "of this object was uh thwarted. And"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "that's that's a good job. Dr. Gro is on"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "the scene breaking news. He was stating"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "that there was multiple uh people"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "involved in this heist. And there's some"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "law enforcement. There's a congressman"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "there in Mexico. There's so many things"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "going on in this liquid story. Brett,"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "what do you got? We we're talking to"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "Haimey uh moments ago. We want to get"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "him back on. Brett, well, apparently"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "these guys were dressed as police"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "officers and there's three of them"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "masquerading as that. And they basically"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "went in kind of the vault and try to"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "grab this thing. Some people sent us"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "some AI reenactments. That's a that's"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "obviously just a recreation of the"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "event, but"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "we have it. This was not taken, but I I"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "want the surveillance video of of the"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "police officers uh coming in cuz I think"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "this was would all be captured on video."}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "You know, it's Mexico City is still"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "pretty high-tech and they got"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "surveillance and we need to know who"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "these people were that tried to uh"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "hijack this thing uh and you know,"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "masquerading as policemen. This this is"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "high-end uh this is high-end business."}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Whatever's going on. Yeah. It's bigger"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "than grand lararseny. It's it's"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "basically somebody wants to get their"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "hands on it and run with it. And uh you"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "know Dr. Greer, we're going to be"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "talking to him in the next couple days."}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "Don't forget Asymmetric Disclosure, the"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "documentary that's about to break the"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "internet. It's going to be available"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "streaming worldwide. And we're going to"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "discuss asymmetric disclosure. We're"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "going to get uh questions to Greer with"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "regards to this attempted heist and uh"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "did he get to see the bogusphere um how"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "did he see it in action cuz that's what"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "thirdphase moon is. We want to see the"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "bogusphere perform in front of our"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "cameras. We're talking to Haimey about"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "this and we want to confirm if third"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "phase of moon could get maybe a flight"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "performance on this thing. But the"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "attempted heist, the breaking news"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "that's uh coming in along with more"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "breaking news of new incredible UFO"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "videos just into us. So, buckle up"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "everybody. This shows just got started."}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "Take a look what just came in."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "Dude, this is the creepiest balloon"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "I've ever seen. Or at least I think it's"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "a freaking balloon. It looks like"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "there's a string at the bottom of it."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "This thing is matte gray and it's"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "literally just hovering and then it"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "slowly it'll stop like it stopped right"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "now. It's dead still right now. Dead"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "still. Sorry, I'm looking at my eyes."}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "It's dead still right now. And then"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "it'll just kind of like sit there,"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "not doing anything."}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "And then now it's starting to move like"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "it'll barely move, but it keeps it keeps"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "maintaining"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "like its altitude."}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "And it I've just never seen a balloon"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "that does that I don't I don't"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "think it's a I don't think it's a UFO or"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "craft, man. It is creepy looking. So"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "weird."}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "All right, these spheres are making the"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "rounds obviously. Now another video and"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "we've been showing them from coming in"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "from all different regions, continents"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "of the sphere. And now Tampa, Florida,"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "broad daylight sight. And here we go"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "again, guys. um new footage just since"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "third phase moon of showcasing the"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "phenomenon that's uh enthralled the"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "world's enthralled about it right now."}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "This is uh unprecedented of what's"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "really going on with these fears in"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "today's world. Yeah. Maybe uh what's"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "happened in Mexico City and attempted"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "robbery of this thing now. Hey, guess"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "what? It's on the east coast uh Tampa,"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "Florida. And this guy's amazed where"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "he's he's just looking at this thing and"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "he says, \"I never seen a a balloon, you"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "know, just hover like that.\" And look,"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "it's it's spherical. And he's getting a"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "really good shot of this thing. We're"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "going to get a closeup. This thing's"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "legit. There's no AI. This is a new"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "footage again just coming out on the"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "East Coast over there in Florida. There"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "it seems like they're everywhere now."}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "Yeah, really good footage. I don't think"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "this is some some kind of advertisement."}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "Tethered down. This thing's untethered"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "and it's basically levitating under its"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "own wheel. And uh it's we don't see any"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "means of propulsion. That's the"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "curiosity behind these recent sightings"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "of the metallic sphere. And again, this"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "is rolling in real time. It's not even"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "slow motion. Look how it just hangs up"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "there in the sky. Amazing videos coming"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "in. No CGI, no AI. The true vintage"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "realtime UFOs coming into Third Phase of"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Moon. Uh, buckle up. We got another one"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "for you. Take a look at this, guys."}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "A UFO."}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "A what?"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "What is that?"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "flying like a hover."}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "That's not a person."}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "It's a UFO."}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "I have to give you"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "going up."}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "Jason, that's kind of gone."}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "Stranger Things."}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "It's me, the brand new intelligent"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "black."}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "Loud. Is he going to hit me?"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "So, we're going to get a little close"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "look. In the beginning, you get some"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "pretty good clean shots. And it's"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "interesting. The the video right prior"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "to this was in Florida. This is again"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "off the coast of Florida. So, we're"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "having multiple sightings of UFOs"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "within, you know, hours of each other."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "Totally different from the sphere. Some"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "people might call this a humanoid, but"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "uh they managed to capture some"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "interesting shots with the people, the"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "foreground, the background. Uh this"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "thing's off at a distance. Whatever it"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "is, it's quite large and uh it it has a"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "has this humanoid attribute to it. But"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "what what do what do you make of it? I'm"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "digging it because the people they're"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "aware and that they're observing this"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "craft. Apparently that's what it is. We"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "don't know. Could it be a set of"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "balloons? It doesn't look like that. And"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "you can just see it out there. And I"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "like the this, you know, this"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "perspective. And this craft is somewhere"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "off in the distance. Could these be the"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "UFOs that are, excuse me, the UFOs that"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "are coming from, you know, the Atlantic"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "Ocean that are hiding underneath the"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "waters there? And maybe that's where all"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "a lot of these UFOs are appearing from."}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "Yeah, there's only one big flaw that I"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "see in this video, and it's just it's"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "the people. They they don't look up."}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "Every you have this one person noticing"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "the anomaly, but most people are"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "oblivious. Obviously, you're at a beach"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "and you're kind of overwhelmed by the"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "senses of nature. The sense of nature is"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "powerful. But look, keep your eyes on"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "the skies, everybody. You know, things"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "are going to be appearing. All you have"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "to do is look up. It's happening 24/7."}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "So, good indication of something up"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "there. Broad daylight sighting,"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "non-manipulated footage, the real deal."}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "We've got another one for you. This"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "one's interesting. It happened during a"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "light storm of some kind of object."}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "Watch."}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "Whoa."}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "All our power."}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "Okay, we're going to roll that once"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "again. Lightning storms are in our"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "opinion magnets for UFO activity. And"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "we're looking at something that's"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "massive in the sky. I don't think there"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "again is there's no manipulation here."}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "I'm thinking this is genuine footage. I"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "see the the reaction of a lightning bolt"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "on a digital sensor. It all matches up"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "perfectly there. Britain, what is this"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "object? Who the hell knows? But it's"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "badass footage. We're looking at"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "something. It's an anomaly. It's a"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "phenomenon. Look at the flash. It just"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "hit huge. And we see this massive uh"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "craft, dark mass just move across the"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "sky. This is uh very impressive. We're"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "going to loop this a few more times, but"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "let's just listen to it as it reacts in"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "real time."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "Whoa."}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "Dang. What a reaction. And look at uh"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "this footage. In my opinion, this is"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "definitely uh real. This is again the"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "phenomenon happening in real time from"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "around the planet. More videos just into"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "third phase moon. Hit that thumbs up,"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "guys."}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "Look,"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "there it goes again."}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "Look at this. Yo,"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "it's not making any noise. Please, can"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "y'all let me know what this is? It's not"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "a helicopter."}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "There is no noise with that thing."}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "Yo, for real. What is this? Am I"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "bucking?"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "This is not making any noise whatsoever."}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "This is just feet away from me."}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "What is this? It has no discernable"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "shape."}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "What the hell?"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "Yo, what? Yo, what is this? How? Yo,"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "this has it's not making any noise. I am"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "not playing."}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "I'm Yo, this is just feet above me."}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "What? My god is happening,"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "dude. Yo."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "Yo, it's not making any noise."}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "This is not a drone, my people. Look at"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "this. Look. Look at this."}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "It's just Yo. Yo, I am bugged out. What"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "is that?"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "Holy"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "He's not making any noise."}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "Wow. This guy's crushing it. He"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "continues to film the phenomenon. A"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "second angle. uh same period of time,"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "but it looks to me about a half hour"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "later and this thing's still sticking"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "around. Watch. What is that?"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "It's not making any noise."}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "Yo, this is in the Bronx, New York."}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "That was just a helicopter."}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "Yo, this is"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "this is in the Bronx, New York."}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "What is that?"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "We got up."}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "This is not making any noise whatsoever."}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "There was helicopters out. I see this."}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "This is real."}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "There were police rolling by."}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "What in the world am I seeing right now?"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "This is not made up. I'm in Throg's"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "Neck, Bronx, New York."}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "Yo, that's definitely not made up. We're"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "looking at legitimate phenomenon right"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "here. Um, again, guys, this is uh"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "exciting times. We're looking at"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "something that happened in the Bronx"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "today, New York. Uh, something"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "anomalous."}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "Pure energy. Brent, what do you make of"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "this? Wow. He uh you know he just spent"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "some time on this object. He said it's"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "really close to him. And that first"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "video really showcases uh that you he"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "you don't hear anything. You just see it"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "see that pure ball of energy just"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "floating there. And now we got the"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "second shot and it just seems to be over"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "there in that area. I'm I'm sure we have"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "a lot of fans uh right now watching from"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "the uh the Bronx in New York. Go"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "outside. You might see this object"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "floating over your neighborhood. I'm"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "serious. Uh go and do it because we're"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "looking at something incredible. This"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "does not look like a drone. There's no"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "uh they're kind of blinking lights. This"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "thing is just like these uh balls that"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "we've been seeing over New Jersey. Now"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "they're back. It's it seems like again"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "they're they're everywhere."}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "Yeah, the Bronx. Uh something's going"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "on. And I'm sure there's more people on"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "the ground over there that saw this. And"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "again, could it be some kind of"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "surveillance of unknown technology or is"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "it otherworldly is the question. But I"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "really like when uh this he continues to"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "investigate and his curiosities got a"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "hold of him and he's so excited about"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "what he's seeing. But look at this"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "overhead shot and he you hear no"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "indication of noise off this. If this"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "were a drone, you would hear. But again,"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "the second shot and he's He's still got"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "his eyes on it. He He doesn't trust it"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "or he's bewildered. He's He's kind of in"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "an amazement, a euphoric kind of"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "feeling. That's what it feels like when"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "you're in close proximity to the"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "phenomenon. Speaking of phenomenon,"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "as we're watching this right now, we're"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "all the gears are in motion. Asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "Disclosure is about to drop. I think"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "it's tomorrow in two days, June 24th,"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "2025. Asymmetric disclosure is gonna"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "basically change the way you look at the"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "hidden cover up. Dr. Greer goes into"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "major in in depth. Uh some of the"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "stories you've never heard before. Trust"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "me. Asymmetric disclosure. Here's a"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "trailer. Take a look at the Genius Link."}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "Pre-order it right now."}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "So you really have to have a select"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "individuals or certain industries and"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us. Oh"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "yeah. People are all talking about World"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "War II and all that. Well, um you know,"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "if we don't change the trajectory we're"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "on, we're going to be in a big problem."}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "Nobody with any sense wants fortune and"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "glory dealing with this. That's the"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "mistake that they all make."}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "Hey, hey, hey."}]

[{"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Blake Cousins. We've got the special"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "report, the Bogasphere. People want to"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "know what makes this tick. We have"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "science review over this phenomenon. And"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "it's it's basically mind-blowing what"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "we're going to hear tonight. We're going"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "to go in depth of what happened in"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "Mexico moments ago. Listen up."}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "This nucleus that was observed"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "As engineer Avila said, we can observe"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "that there are three different densities"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "that are involved."}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "Let's let the"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "video run a bit and we'll have the image"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "on screen any moment."}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "This is the nucleus and it's real. This"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "is an image that was made of the sphere"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "that was made at the university. It's"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "it's a tomography,"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "as you can see, there are"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "certain holes right here that are"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "located at the equator, which is right"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "here, right through the center. We got"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "the northern hemisphere and the southern"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "hemisphere."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "When I saw this,"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "I asked myself once again, where's the"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "energy source for it to levitate"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "reason for which I started doing"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "investigating how satellites"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "have a cable and they can be charged"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "through the cable."}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "But"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "I was reminded of Nicola Tesla. Nikolai"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "Tesla experimented with his famous"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "tower, the Wonder Clear."}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "Let's see what he did."}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "As you can tell, this"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "Tesla tower,"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "if you see it vertically, you can see"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "that there's a tube that goes down the"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "center, which is an electrical"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "conductor. It goes underground and we"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "have certain pallets that are being"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "generated with the current. It generates"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "an electric current and it's distributed"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "up top."}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "And when the plates move, it generates"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "the necessary charge."}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "Let's move forward. So then I asked"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "myself the following."}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "What if we grabbed the Tesla tower?"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "and we inserted it"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "into the sphere. And since there's no"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "river to generate those electrical"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "charges according to science is only"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "through friction, you should rub those"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "materials together to create friction."}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "And then I thought of this next image."}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "when I generate electrical charge,"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "we would have a field. But let's stop"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "for a moment. Let's go back to the"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "previous image, please. These charges"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "are going to be distributed throughout"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "the sphere. But there's something that"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "is very important."}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "There's a physical property within"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "physics that tells you that the addition"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "of magnetic fields that you can add to a"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "sphere, they will counter rest each"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "other. That's the Gow's law. The"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "electrical field is equal to zero."}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "But what if we make it rotate?"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "So there's friction at the center. So"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "when we start to make the sphere rotate,"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "we start generating different fields."}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "All right, the special report continues"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "right here at third phase moon. Give us"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "a big thumbs up. Now coming up uh right"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "after we just heard from the scientist"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "uh looking inside the bogusphere. What"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "makes it tick? Now we have Dr. Steven"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "Greer. We shared a clip uh just last"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "night. But here's more unedited video"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "just into third phase moon via highuman"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "and the phenomenon the bogasphere. What"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "did Greer have to say? Listen. To"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "enhance you to your question, our team"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "here is to um confirm the research doing"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "to consult about further tests and to do"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "whatever we can do here. I think for the"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "reason of opsex or operational security,"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "it should be in Mexico and not in the"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "United States frankly because I operate"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "in the United States and it's very"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "difficult. um that's the epicenter of"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "the global security state keeping this"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "secret. Not that there aren't components"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "here, but but there it is a problem. Um"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "so much so that members of Congress are"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "routinely denied information. So I think"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "that the other point is the scientific"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "studies what we want to do would include"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "uh looking at certain isotopes that"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "would determine if those metals appeared"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "and were originated off planet or on"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "planet. It's very difficult to do. It's"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "expensive, but that's what we're going"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "to try to do. We want to try to carbon"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "date it from the polymer if we can get"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "enough. We want to be able to also"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "advise on certain um physics tests that"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "can be done. And the gentleman mentioned"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "spinning it and what have you. We have"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "some ideas about that. One thing as a"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "just a to remember an extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "device is very different from a"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "manufactured human 21st century. And"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "here's how they're usually of one part."}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "The components are all seem to be melded"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "together and appear as one. Whereas a"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "man-made object is this part, this part,"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "this part. So we there are man-made UFOs"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "that are known as alien reproduction"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "vehicles. We have a lot of them. We"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "started making them. My uncle was"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "Northwick Grumman. Lockheed has them."}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "Rathon. Those are parts and pieces and"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "they look like a manufactured object."}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "The extraterrestrial vehicles are"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "seamless. They tend to be similar to"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "this. This has some differentiation and"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "they tend to have the functional"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "components integrated as if it came out"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "of a singular mold. Now, the"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "manufacturing that's extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "involves a type of what's called"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "transdimensional physics where you set"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "up an energy field and it aggregates the"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "materials together in and forms it as a"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "hole as opposed to us digging something"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "up and welding it together in a machine"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "shop. So, we know the difference between"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "extraterrestrial say manufacturing and"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "21st century human manufacturing. Now"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "the question is there have been"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "extraterrestrial involvement with this"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "planet for probably millions of years"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "certainly for millennia and is this"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "object from a prior uh extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "involvement or even an ancient"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "civilization that lived here that was"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "perhaps even human or part human that"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "made these. This is why we want to be"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "able to date it if it's 5,000 years old"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "or 2,000 years old. That's a huge bit of"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "data because at that point you realize"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "well it can't be uh anything uh made"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "recently uh you know and therefore how"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "was it made cuz aluminum has a I think"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "needs 10,000\u00b0 to smelled it. We didn't"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "have aluminum till pretty recently u and"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "other components. The other question is"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "looking for various uh uh elements that"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "may not be even in our periodic table."}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "So in other words, it could have"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "elements in it. Uh but this is a very"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "very esoteric level of of astro science"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "and physics where where you'd have to"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "employ very specific labs and the labs"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "receiving it will not know it came from"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "this. So what we're going to do is more"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "like a double blind situation. The the"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "testing laboratories will have no idea"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "the origin of it. But no, the device I"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "think should remain here in secure"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "hands. At some point we do want to"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "figure out the physics of it because one"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "of my objectives why I left my medical"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "career was when I realized they were"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "keeping this cabal of of of"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "fascists and sociopaths have been hiding"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "from us the people the means to have"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "free energy no pollution no poverty"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "within 20 years and look at the world"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "that we have now on the brink of nuclear"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "war. It's ridiculous. So I think we can"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "do better as a people and that's what we"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "hope to do. So this could be the answer."}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "Could be. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "All right. So uh as the special report"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "right here at Thirdphase Moon continues"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "now uh after Steven Greer uh made some"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "statements. It's incredible. We're"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "getting the person who recovered it uh"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "the farmer himself. He takes some"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "questions. uh this guy if this is 100%"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "legit and it's looking pretty"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "interesting what's going on over there"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "and hopefully we can get more science on"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "this uh team with Dr. Greer is working"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "on it but if this is what it is this guy"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "right here he's the one that brought it"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "to the world listen to what he has to"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "say"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "testing"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "good morning everyone thank you very"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "much for this invitation"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "My name is Jose Restreo. I'm the person"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "who found the sphere. It's very exciting"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "to be here, but I'm nervous at the same"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "time."}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "I'm nervous because obtaining this"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "sphere is like obtaining a signal, a"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "signal which is aware, a signal which is"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "conscious,"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "a signal which is peaceful. And I also"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "feel proud"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "because I gave it to"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "David who's an engineer and who gave it"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "to Maan. So I feel proud because I told"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "Mr. Maan,"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "you are a very important person and you"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "can transmit this reality to the world"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "because there's been other spheres that"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "have been kept secret. So this is unique"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "and for a citizen I obtained it. I had"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "physical maladies,"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "but it was just temporal. When I picked"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "it up, my mouth dried up and I had a"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "metallic taste in my mouth. And there"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "are other videos that said that I almost"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "lost my life, that I lost my tooth, that"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "I lost my hair. But those are only"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "rumors, of course. Here I am giving"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "eyewitness testimony. Thank you very"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "much."}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "Why was it"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "that you face the public for the first"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "time right now? He's a shy person, but"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "he allowed us to share his name so that"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "the world knows who found that sphere."}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "Why didn't you want to be made public?"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "I have two children."}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "I have two sons and they don't like too"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "much attention."}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "I think it would be best to be discreet."}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "But when I saw the investigation being"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "done by Mexico's autonomous university"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "by Rodul Foar, I decided that it was"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "something serious. It was something"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "real. So when I told David,"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "go ahead and ask Maani if he's"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "interested in obtaining this sphere."}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "It's like a treasure."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "Do you think it's dangerous?"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "Yes, I do think it's danger. Even"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "treasure hunting for gold can also be"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "dangerous as well"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "by just obtaining something because the"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "government will show up all of a sudden"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "asking for that material"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "archaeologically speaking. Now imagine"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "something like this. It's something"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "unique that we have it. What happened to"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "you physically when you were carrying"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "the sphere home? Well, there's a picture"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "where I'm carrying it on my belly. And"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "that night I felt nausea. I threw up. I"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "felt bad. And I went to the doctor, but"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "I did not want to tell him the truth."}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "You didn't tell him the truth? No, no,"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "no. I didn't want to tell the doctor the"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "truth. I remained quiet. I told him it"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "was some allergy or something. And how"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "do you feel right now? Right now, I feel"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "fine. I feel happy because"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "We're transmitting this information. So,"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "the video is authentic. Of course, it's"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "authentic. And you can see it with the"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "closeup. When I was right next to it,"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "it started humming. The sphere started"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "humming. And that's when I turned around"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "and looked at it. It was the humming"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "that called my attention. And that's"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "when I started filming."}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "It was around 8 minutes and it was cut,"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "but we were changing from one place to"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "another trying to get a better shot."}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "So, number one, there's magnetic fields."}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "Number two, you have high voltage lines"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "nearby."}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "And these high voltage lines transmit"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "electricity at 10,000 volts. So, what"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "happened? The sphere got too close to"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "the lines."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "It got too close to the cables"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "that apparently were 10,000 volts."}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "There's a small spark."}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "And yes, it was like burned over"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "because I saw the spark and I saw how it"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "impacted the sphere. I listened to the"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "short circuit because it was more or"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "less a few feet away from here."}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "There are certain people who say that"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "the other sphere is different from this"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "one. No, it's the same exact sphere."}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "It's the same sphere that was filmed."}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "It's the same sphere that I picked up."}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "It's the same one."}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "I was getting ready to go and when I"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "realized all the grass was dried up."}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "It was sitting on the grass for 15"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "minutes and it dehydrated the grass."}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "Well, we realized that the land was"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "dehydrated the day after actually."}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "And I put my hand on top of the soil."}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "Were you afraid?"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "Well, yeah. I was afraid, but I was also"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "curious"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "when I got a hold of it."}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "It was so impressive that I did get a"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "little bit scared, but I also felt"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "internal peace. What? Yes, I felt"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "internal peace like tranquility on the"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "inside."}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "At home,"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "there's a bed and"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "it was"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "emanating feelings of tranquility, of"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "peace."}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "Did you ever think that you would be"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "here in Mexico doing an internationally"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "televised press conference? Never. I"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "never imagined this. I'd like to thank"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "you for being here with us. No, I'd like"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "to thank all of you here."}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "Thank you for being brave."}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "Thank you for being courageous."}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "What do you think of all the people that"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "discredit this? Well, yes, there are"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "certain people who say that"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "that they had it made and they send it"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "to you by mail. I was just laughing"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "and that you bought it on Amazon"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "and they send it via Federal Express."}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "And that's the exact same sphere that I"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "found. It's the same one that was"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "filmed. It's beautiful, actually. I do"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "feel proud. We feel proud for you as"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "well. Thank you very much. Yep. He's"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "getting a standing ovation over there."}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "Everybody's uh cheering him on. And"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "again, uh this special report right here"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "at Third Phase of Moon. It's just uh the"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "tip of the iceberg. We're working really"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "close with Haime Masan. And uh it's it's"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "interesting on how this story is"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "continuing in a forward motion. It's"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "just the tip of the iceberg and I got a"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "feeling there's more of these things"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "that are going to be uh being shown. The"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "next"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "segment in this special report is"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "interesting because there's a lot of"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "debunkers out there. And again, people"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "got to keep an eye on this stuff. And"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "right here at Thirdphase Moon, we're"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "we're kind of suggesting what we're"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "looking at is it's real. no AI or CGI,"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "but possibly manipulated. We're not"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "100%, but it does seem legit. Now, uh,"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "Verdad Aulta did his own test via drone"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "to see if it would simulate the the"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "videos that are going viral right now,"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "and he says, uh, these things are real."}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "The debunkers got it wrong. Listen,"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "artificial intelligence, we can discard"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "So, I did an experiment through. Now"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "you'll see through a drone, a simple"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "drone making a model."}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "Okay. In this case, I used a G mini"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "drone that can support a limited load."}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "0.90 g 90 g. That sphere currently"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "weighs 10 kg, 133 g. It initially"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "weighed 2 kg. We have the testimonies."}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "We have the photographs. What else do we"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "need? It's false, right? We have"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "photographs of 6 kg and we have"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "photographs of 9 kg."}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "that is evolving."}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "What has been said today is that the"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "first measurements on the perinel scale"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "were giving 330. We are talking about"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "double the aluminum alloy used in the"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "aerospace field including NASA."}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "It has been modified. It has lost. Its"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "weight has increased. And there it is"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "perhaps dead. I don't know. I want you"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "to pay attention to this explanation."}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "With this explanation, we can show the"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "world that yes, we can visually see"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "something that resembles it. But look at"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "its pendulum movement. And obviously it"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "weighs 90 grams because it is a"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "reconstruction and it is a drone. There"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "are currently drones that can support"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "large loads. But not just any drone can"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "lift 10 kg. Okay. I want you to observe"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "the pendulum movement it has here. The"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "important thing is that it does fly."}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "Airplanes fly. Drones fly. UFOs fly."}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "Flies fly. Animals fly. And Superman"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "too. But the fact that they fly does not"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "mean that they are the same."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "What we observe here, gentlemen, is that"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "at some point it will collide with a"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "branch and that it will do that because"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "it is a pendulum. It will automatically"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "begin to rotate in a way that you will"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "see, right?"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "Williams testimony because I'm not only"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "sticking with the recording, but with"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "the testimony attests that the sphere, a"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "very similar one, a first cousin, same"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "recordings, touched the plants. It"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "touched the plants. What does that mean?"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "That in the recording it touches the"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "plants and the movement is linear. It is"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "linear. There is no type of alteration"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "like a pendulum that impacts something."}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "We have the testimony and we have the"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "recording."}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "In Julio's recordings, sorry, Jose's, we"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "see the aerial shots where nothing can"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "be seen in the distance."}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "Here I have used a 15 m cable. I can"}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "make a 50 m and 100 m cable with a model"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "and 200 m too. Okay. But movement is"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "movement. Look, when a drone is inert"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "supporting the object how it spins and"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "that we have a mesh and people say no,"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "let's place it on the inside. Let's do"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "it better. Yes, to discredit because we"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "do not want to pay attention to the"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "testimonies and what they are telling"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "us."}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "With this, we can rule out that Williams"}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "and Jose's recordings were not made with"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "a pendulum."}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "That there must be more that have been"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "made with a pendulum to poison the"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "phenomenon. Yes, of course. But I stick"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "to tangible evidence, which is my job."}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "all possibilities."}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "Not wanting to believe, not wanting to"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "believe, but proving. And we are going"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "to add to that. And we are ignoring that"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "the sphere has been levitating and"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "weighs 10 kg, and that it weighed 2 kg,"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "then it weighed 6, and then it weighed"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "9."}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "You conclude that the videos we saw were"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "not made with a drone."}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "I conclude based on Williams testimony,"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "Williams recording, that it was not made"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "with a drone."}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "And the same case of Booga Sphere."}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "In Boas Sphere, Don Jose's first"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "recording, I conclude that it was not"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "made with VFX and that it was not made"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "with a drone since I see shots where the"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "drone is not seen or would never be"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "seen."}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "Now, there are recordings that are"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "possibly emerging, but not these. We do"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "not have the testimonies. They are"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "coming forward, gentlemen. They are"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "coming forward. Hey, they are risking"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "everything in front of the world. They"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "are going to look like liars."}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "Okay, we also had some very important"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "international guests, a member of the"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "American Congress, Steven Greer, and"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "also attorney Donnie Chihon. So, we're"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "going to keep you updated with regards"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "to what's going on over there in Mexico."}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "Verdad Aulta, I got to say, he did a"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "pretty good job trying to tell all these"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "debunkers, if you were to tie it up on a"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "string, it wouldn't look exactly the way"}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "the legit videos look. You can see"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "imperfections with his uh test. But"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "again, we're going to keep a close eye"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "on this and we wanted to let everybody"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "know. Don't worry, we've got a UFO video"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "coming up right here in just a few"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "moments. But uh give us a big thumbs up"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "for the special report and the ongoing"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "investigation. We're in close proximity"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "to Haime. We're talking to him all the"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "time. And uh we just want to see it fly"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "before our cameras. That's what we're"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "asking. Hopefully, we get it. Stay tuned"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "for that. Now, a new UFO video just in."}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "Watch this."}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "Going up"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "here"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "loose"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "again. Columbia."}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "Bam."}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "more"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "kiss."}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "Columbia."}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "Alice the Buddha."}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "Get it. I"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "think"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "Okay, I'm going to do a side byside"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "comparison. the original to the left and"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "I zoomed it up approximately 3 to 400%."}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "Obviously, there's something up there in"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "the sky. We're getting a a pretty good"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "look at it. Brett, what country is this"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "coming in from? It's broad daylight. I'm"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "I'm digging this. Yeah, Blake, I believe"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "this is coming in from the South"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "American region somewhere. I can't give"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "you exact coordinates, but what we are"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "looking at is again real legitimate"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "footage of again it looks like the"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "sphere the boggosphere making its"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "appearance once again and now we have"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "have it on camera. These things are"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "raining basically across the sky in that"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "region and we've seen it now in Russia,"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "China and even in America. The videos"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "are flooding. It seems like it's not"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "just in that region anymore. It's this"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "is a worldwide phenomenon happening."}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "Yeah. Uh, Japan and other countries, I'm"}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "sure, are receiving u information with"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "regards to the people, the public"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "filming these things on a daily basis"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "24/7. It's happening. And again, uh,"}, {"end": "00:26:05", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "we're broadcasting here from the"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "Hollywood Hills. We want to know where"}, {"end": "00:26:09", "start": "00:26:05", "text": "you're chiming in from. We wanted to"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "also let you know we're thinking about a"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:09", "text": "symposium where we could invite the"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "public and do this um get together in"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "Los Angeles somewhere and showcase the"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "latest the greatest UFO evidence from"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "around the world and some things that"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "the world hasn't seen. Let us know if"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "you're uh down for that and if you got"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "any ideas, let us know. Uh we'll keep"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "everybody posted. Now again, June 24th,"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "asymmetric disclosure, our latest"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "documentary, a groundbreaking, we were"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "there on location during uh some big"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "times. The hearings, the UFO hearings,"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "we spoke with Burchett, Congressman"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "Burchett, Dr. Greer, and uh let me tell"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "you, we are blowing up. It's it's"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "exciting. It's going to be available"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "June 24th, just right around the corner."}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "The link is below. But we're going to"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "roll the trailer and uh make sure share"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "it with your friends. Tell them it's"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "going to be available worldwide"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "streaming Amazon, Apple TV. The link"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "will take you to the right place."}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "Everybody be safe. Asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "disclosure. It's about to drop."}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "So you really have to have a select"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"end": "00:27:23", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:23", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"end": "00:27:29", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "The only way you're gonna get to it is"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:29", "text": "somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:28:05", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:05", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "individuals or certain industries, and"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "yeah. People are all talking about World"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "War II and all that. Well, um, you know,"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "if we don't change the trajectory we're"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "on, we're going to be in a big problem."}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "Nobody with any sense wants fortune and"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "glory dealing with this. That's the"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "mistake that they all make."}]

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It's using an energy"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "field and what we probably would say is"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "electrogravidic, which means a type of"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "anti-gravity effect from the"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "electromagnetic forces. And whether it"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "is a purely extraterrestrial origin or a"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "mix of a ancient human extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "development there are four or five"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "possibilities and this is what we want"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "to look at. If we can get some of the"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "materials and do carbon dating we can"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "from the polymer then we will know how"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "old it is. If it predates this kind of"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "manufacturer it'll be extraordinary. So"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "I think there's a lot of investigation."}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "We have some really good scientists here"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "with us who can do those research with"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "you and confirm and help and join forces"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "with your effort. So I I my own sense of"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "this is that it's obviously real. It's"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "anomalous. Uh we have seen these sort of"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "spheres before and I just want to share"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "two days ago we debriefed a green beret"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "who he was in a subterranean facility"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "crane Indiana"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "naval weapons station and this is a top"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "green beret not many years ago and he"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "was taken underground very deep and it"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "was shown several extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "devices one of which had a device like a"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "translucent almost like a small iPad but"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "extraterrestrial and it was putting up"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "above that screen a series of letters"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "or symbols ink deep ink black and they"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "are on this sphere four or five of them"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "very unusual now this gentleman he"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "didn't have any association with those"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "symbols until he saw this sphere and in"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "the interview two days ago when we were"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "in Los Angeles. Uh I'm not going to"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "disclose his name right now. His"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "information is going to a investigation"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "law enforcement group in in uh United"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "States that I'm working with that are"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "looking into the criminal aspects of the"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "secrecy of this. But he said these are"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "exactly the symbols that were floating"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "above this device in the air about a"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "foot and that they had some effect in"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "his awareness and they he thought it had"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "something to do with activation of DNA"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "and consciousness some very unusual"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "effect. So uh very interesting new"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "testimony. It was uns very surprising to"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "us and I wanted to share that with you."}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "Uh and so we're going to continue these"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "investigations, but I think this is a"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "very significant object and and the"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "other gentleman was correct. Uh we have"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "700 plus whistleblowers and people in"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "the United States now coming forward. Uh"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "we have a lot of evidence. We do have"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "some physical evidence. That's was"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "incorrect. But something like this we"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "have never had because usually these get"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "confiscated by thugs, criminals. And so"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "good for you. You've done great work all"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "of you. I'm very proud to be here with"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "you. Welcome back to Third Phase of"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "Moon. Blake Cousins along with my"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "brother Brent. You heard it. Dr. Steven"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "Greer, Mexico. The Bugosphere. Haimei"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "Mosan has presented the evidence in"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "front of experts, people that are"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "specialized in confirming the data. And"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "that's what it's all about. And we"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "brought to you the videos and now Dr."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "Greer's on the scene. He's saying these"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "things, they're real. and he's just uh"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "still on the fence a little bit. He"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "wants to uh have his experts and people"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "look at this boophhere and get a closer"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "look. What makes it tick? But uh"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "exciting times right now. This is"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "insane. Haime MSAN invited Third Phase"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "Moon to show up and we're happy to"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "cooperate and collaborate with Haime"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Mousan with regards to this bug sphere"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "uh phenomenon what's going on right now."}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Yeah, Blake, I was talking with Jaime"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "last week and he says, uh, come on up."}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "And he wanted to share this event with"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "everybody. And now we have Stephen there"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "on location, uh, you know, looking at"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "the evidence again. He says it's real."}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "But, you know, he wants to get this in"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "the United States too as well. And I"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "don't blame him. I want this this to be"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "uh you know transferred maybe a little"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "you know take a piece of it a little"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "piece of the metal the polymer and bring"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "it back to America and have our"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "scientists you know look over this and"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "keep it open source cuz that's what it"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "needs to be. It needs to be uh seen by"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "everybody. It doesn't need to go behind"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "closed doors like the government keeps"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "everything. No, this needs to be open"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "for the people to see. And America's I"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "think really the one to really solve and"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "crack this case. Hey, uh, appreciate"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "Haimey for inviting us to, uh, show up."}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "And it's so cool that Steven's there on"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "location. And man, we're going to be"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "talking to Steve in the next couple"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "days. And we, we have our new, uh,"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "documentary, Asymmetric Disclosure,"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "about to drop. And this is incredible."}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "It's all perfect timing. Yeah, it's in"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "real time. And, uh, that is nice to be"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "on the front line of all of this. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Haimey has been reaching out. We've been"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "cooperating. American"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "videos, photographs of this metallic"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "sphere here in America and across the"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "world and he's getting it in his"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "country. So this uh this past couple"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "weeks we've been in close proximity and"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "uh talking about logistics about how we"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "could get all this information that"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "we've got and combine it all together"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "and it it's just insane that you know"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "what is happening right now. Dr. Wear"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "he's he's putting it out there. He's"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "really proud of these guys and so are we"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "because that's how you do it. You don't"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "sit on video evidence. You don't sit on"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "the evidence. You put it out as fast as"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "you possibly can. That's going to really"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "uh protect everybody. But I would still"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "like to see uh a performance of this"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "Boogasphere in person as it operates. I"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "know they don't got the remote control"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "on this and they can't say, \"Hey, let's"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "see this thing fly.\" But maybe one of"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "these days we could see this thing"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "operational in person. That's what we've"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "been uh talking with Haime about. We we"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "want to see this thing fly in front of"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "our cameras. That's uh what we all need."}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "But these people on the ground that are"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "catching it, they're doing such great"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "work and this is exciting times. And"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "right here at Third Phase of Moon, the"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "world is looking up into the sky and"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "we've got brand new videos for you"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "tonight. So buckle up for that. So, we"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "just showed you what's going on in"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "Mexico. Now, let's show you what's going"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "on around the world right now, guys."}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "Take a look at this new."}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "So, we're going to be looking at video"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "one. Jeremy Corbel. This has been making"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "the rounds on the internet. Everybody"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "wants to get Third Phase of Moon's"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "reaction. We actually spoke to people"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "that are in close proximity to uh the"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "leak with regards to this video right"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "now. And some people are a little"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "confused uh that some people are stating"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "that this video was shot from the ground"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "looking up and that this could be the"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "moon or some something that's not"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "something anomalous but not exciting."}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "But actually when we look at this now we"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "know a little bit more. It's captured"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "from outer space. This is captured from"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "a satellite looking down upon Earth as"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "this disc uh appears to be moving"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "underneath the clouds. We wanted to"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "confirm if this was clouds moving as"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "somebody was standing looking up, but"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "no, this is looking down. It's a static"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "shot. So, we're not getting clouds"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "moving left to right to create an"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "illusion that this thing is actually in"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "motion. It really is in motion. And then"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "some people are saying it looks exactly"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "like the movie Nope. Brett, your"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "thoughts on this? Yeah, like this."}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "Again, we're looking at possibly the"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "phenomenon, the the typical flying"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "saucer captured from a satellite. This"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "is kind of a first. So, weaponized. Hey,"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "they they dropped a good one and that's"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "good. What we heard was this this"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "footage was floating internally within"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "the government and it was talked about"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "for I don't know a couple years. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "sure, but people were kind of, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "leaked conversations were being"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "mentioned about this uh satellite"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "footage and now we're getting it"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "straight straight to the public. Um,"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "what's your take on this? What is it? I"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "I'm not sure. We we want to hear it in"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "the comments, but we are seeing this"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "cylindrical dark craft with a kind of a"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "highlight right underneath it. Look at"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "Look at this. There's a little"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "enhancement that's been done on this."}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "And you see it and you see this nice"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "glint across across this uh disshaped"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "object. I like this. Yeah. And when"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "you're using AI, which Jeremy Corbel did"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "to enhance his footage, I I don't see"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "anything wrong with that. And we want to"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "see the original footage and the"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "enhanced footage. What can AI make out?"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "And right here, they're adding some"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "brightness contrast as best that they"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "can. It it really pixelates"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "the video data quality, but in my"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "opinion, we're looking at something"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "that's"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "I don't we're just we're just looking at"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "something. Again, it's interesting. This"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "military satellite footage. I want to"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "know if we could figure out what company"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "that owns this satellite that uh pushed"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "this data out and how did Jeremy Corvel"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "um come into possession of it? That's"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "that would be a good question to start."}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "Like what satellite captured this? Is it"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "NASA? Is it the ISS? I don't think so. I"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "think it's a private corporation and"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "they might be keeping a close eye on"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "these things. I'm going to just throw"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "something out there. Could there have"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "been a solar eclipse, a full solar"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "eclipse? And we're looking at the"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "reflection on top of the ocean looking"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "at a full lunar solar eclipse. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "sure, but hey, I just thought of that."}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "Who knows? Interesting call there. And"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "it's interesting. Um, nobody's got the"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "answers, but we sure like sharing the"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "videos and Corbell put out a decent one"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "and we want to look at this and we want"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "to get your thoughts because uh, more"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "military footage. Keep it coming. No"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "doubt about it. Now, the civilian"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "footage is where in our opinion,"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "disclosure is going to be because"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "they're catching things that we can't"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "explain. We've got another one for you"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "right now, guys. Take a look at this."}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "Well, we got the spike UFO back."}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "Definitely. Um, look at this thing. It"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "has this feeling of intimidation. And"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "could it be something propped up to look"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "like a sea urchent? Something biological"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "in the sky and uh to freak people out or"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "is this something actually living up"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "there? I don't know. It's unidentified."}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "It's crazy. Broad daylight sighting."}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "This thing's not undulating either. Some"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "people might say it's a balloon. It"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "could be, but look at how stable it's"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "hanging in the sky. And uh some people"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "also might want to debunk it saying it's"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "AI or CGI. We're ruling that one out."}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "what we're looking at is legitimately up"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "in the sky. We pretty much will uh go to"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "Vegas with that. Brett, your thoughts on"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "this? Yeah, I'm digging this footage."}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "It's pretty cool. It's badass, got to"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "say. And this guy really got a good, you"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "know, opportunity to film it. His"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "camera, it's stable. He's locked in. And"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "then he zooms out to show perspective of"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "where how far this thing is up in there"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "in the sky. And it's quite quite up"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "there. But when he gets detailed, the"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "picture of this now you're seeing detail"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "of this UFO and the spikes, you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "there could be about 20 of them. Have"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "you ever seen a balloon like this? I"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "sure haven't. And again, these are kind"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "of making the rounds in the South"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "American region. And uh again, we're"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "looking at uh could this be the possible"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "phenomenon? Yeah, this thing's kind of"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "scary as heck. And again, uh, if these"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "these beings, if they're visiting us"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "from out of our solar system, from"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "another galaxy, within our universe,"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "traversing all this way, I I don't think"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "they'd be here to harm us. But, this one"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "kind of gets me thinking, what's up with"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "these edges? It seems like it's a"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "defense mechanism or I don't know. It"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "seems a little intimidating."}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "So, another video just since the third"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "phase of moon of what looks to be some"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "kind of cylindrical UFO. Watch this."}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "Right. Let's roll this one once again."}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "Brent, you're the one that um gave me"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "the heads up on this broad daylight"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "cylindrical UFO. And when I I'm looking"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "at it right now, I was like, \"This one's"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "a good one.\" Yeah, look at this thing."}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "It's rotating and it's just this"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "vertical craft uh kind of I don't know,"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "maybe about 40 50 feet, maybe even"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "larger, but this guy gets a really good"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "shot as it goes across the road there in"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "the desert. And we're seeing this craft"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "as it rotates. Uh, what in the world is"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "this? Yeah, rotating vertically. It's"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "pretty amazing stuff. And it's not even"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "undulating. What we're looking at here"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "is obviously unexplained. Look at this."}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "Moving from left to right. And a really"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "good clip there. And I like the"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "perspective with the cars underneath."}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "Even though it lasted for a few seconds."}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "Uh, again, legitimate footage. We go to"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "Vegas on this. No AI or any"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "manipulation. We're looking at something"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "that's unexplained right now. Give us a"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "big thumbs up. a lot more videos right"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "here. It's been a busy day. Um, buckle"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "up everybody. This one had a scratch in"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "our heads right here at Third Phase"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "Moon. And we're broadcasting from"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "Hollywood Hills. Where you listening to"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "from around the world? We'd like to hear"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "that in this live chat. Now, let's roll"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "the next one. Check it out."}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "What the dude?"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "What the"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "Just floating there. What the"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "What?"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "I don't know who that is."}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "Could be a roof."}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "I don't know what that is. I don't know"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "what I'm looking at. I'm"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "quite perplexed."}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "I don't know where to go. That thing's"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "still there."}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "Is it a roof? It looks like a roof, I"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "guess."}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "It looks the same from every point. And"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "I've been working quite a bit now."}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "What is that?"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "What is it?"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "So, we're going to roll this once again."}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "Broad daylight sighting of what"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "everybody wants to see in front of their"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "eyes, the phenomenon. And this one, it"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "lasts for quite some time, but you could"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "tell whatever we're looking at it."}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "Again, it's legitimate footage of a"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "metallic object in the sky. Broad"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "daylight. They can't understand what"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "they're looking at right now. This"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "again, it just keeps getting more crazy"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "and crazy right here at Third Phase"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "Moon. Like, do you feel it everybody"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "from around the world? Something's"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "happening. Yeah, it's exciting times."}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "The UFOs are off the hook. And this guy"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "right here, he's just he his mind is"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "blown. You could see his excitement as"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "he filmed something that he can't"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "explain. You can see the the winds are"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "whipping. It's a windy day and we're"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "looking at this craft"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "just kind of just hover"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "very softly. It does this thing move? Is"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "there motion on this thing? Or is there"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "something off in the distance? Some sort"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "of I don't know, maybe a water tower,"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "but it doesn't look like it. It looks"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "like something in the middle of nowhere"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "and he's panning around showing the"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "whole area. This is some uh excellent"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "video. What's he looking for down there?"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "I'm not sure, but he's he's scanning it"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "and he focus focuses back on this object"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "and it's off in the distance. And I"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "think it did move. This thing is"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "definitely hovering off there in the"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "distance. Yeah, it's not a blimp either."}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "And I don't I don't think it's some kind"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "of again a canopy or some building in"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "the middle of the jungle. It It looks to"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "be a metallic flying disc straight up"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "and this guy captured it. Sometimes they"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "don't want to be seen in a place like"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "this. It's a good place to hide in my"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "opinion. I got a feeling there's a lot"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "of underground bases uh for these things"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "in Colombia, Peru, in the jungles. It's"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "such a great masquerade to like blend in"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "and get in and out without anybody"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "seeing. But this guy had the eagle eye."}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "Good job right there."}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "We wanted to get everybody's opinions,"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "too, because we're in Los Angeles and"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "we're thinking about getting a a"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "symposium of all the latest and the"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "greatest UFO videos and show some"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "exclusives that the world hasn't seen"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "and have a get together. What do you"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "guys think about that? Give us big"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "thumbs up if you have any ideas. Just"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "let us know. Our email is in the"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "description. But we wanted to thank"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "everybody who joined us in this live"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "episode right here. Everybody be safe."}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "Keep your eyes on the skies. Blake"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "Cousins. We'll see you next time."}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "So, you really have to have a select"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "individuals or certain industries."}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "And it's it's detrimental to all of us."}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "Oh yeah. People are all talking about"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "World War II and all that. Well, um you"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "know, if we don't change the trajectory"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "we're on, we're going to be in a big"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "problem. Nobody with any sense wants"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "fortune and glory dealing with this."}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "That's the mistake that they all make."}]

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Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "individuals or certain industries and"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us. Oh"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "yeah. People are all talking about World"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "War II and all that. Well, um you know,"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "if we don't change the trajectory we're"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "on, we're going to be in a big problem."}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "Nobody with any sense wants fortune and"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "glory dealing with this. That's the"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "mistake that they all make."}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Blake Cousins along with my brother"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "Brent. We've got a lot of UFO videos. I"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "look like What is that, bro?"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "Dude, I don't know about a cell phone"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "tower, Monk."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "Monk, I don't think it's a cell phone"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "tower, bro."}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "Good to be with everybody tonight. We've"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "got the UFO videos for you tonight and"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "we've just showed you just the tip of"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "the iceberg with regards to the"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "phenomenon what's happening right now."}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "Dude, I have never in my life seen"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "anything do what it's doing."}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "Wait, do you you should come look at my"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "phone."}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "I can't stop this. I've never seen any"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "cell phone tower do what this is doing."}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "t-shirt, bro. That is a spaceship."}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "Wait, do you see this"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "Cuz if that's a cell, then where's the"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "other one at? No, the cell phone towers"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "are over there on that side down that"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "end."}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "Yeah, those are cell phone tower. What"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "the is that?"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "I have never seen anything like that,"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "bro. That thing's like scanning us and"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "uploading us. It's just hovering."}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "Are you 100% that that's a um Dude,"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "okay. Where do you Where do you see this"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "This is wild, dude."}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "Is nobody else looking at this thinking"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "that's weird?"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "And nobody else is."}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Yeah, you kind of got a good point"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "there. We are kind of the only word."}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "Dude, that is a triangle"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "and it is doing something."}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "All right."}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "Well, we just heard it. Uh, this guy's"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "saying it's not a radio tower and it's"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "good to be with everybody from around"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "the world. We got the brothers back. I'm"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "back from Turkey. We're here on the"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "Hollywood Hills and this video just came"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "in and we're looking at it and it's"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "insane. A triangular shaped craft. We"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "had to just let it roll raw just for a"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "little bit. The guy"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "put out some profanity, but hey, you"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "could hear it in their voices. They"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "don't know what the heck's going on"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "above their heads. Uh Brent's here."}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "What's your thoughts? We've got a lot of"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "UFO videos in this episode, so buckle"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "up. Yo, Blake, welcome back. Uh, we're"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "looking at something kind of strange. He"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "does ask the question though. Is this a"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "cell phone tower? And he does point and"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "move the camera to the other direction"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "and he does point out that there is"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "actual other towers in the area. He says"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "those are them right there. But then he"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "pulls back right there to the whole"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "other part of the the scene and he gets"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "this in frame and he says this looks"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "triangular. And you see these lights"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "kind of bouncing around this triangular"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "shaped craft. You can almost see the"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "hole of the craft as the refraction of"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "lights indicate that there's something"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "there. It's a solid object and it's"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "definitely uh some people might say the"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "infamous tier 3B, but this one just"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "looks a little different if you ask me."}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "Is it something otherworldly is the big"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "question or is it one of ours? That's"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "what Third Phase Moon's here to crack"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "that code and bring it to you. Like I"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "said, a lot of UFO videos in tonight's"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "episode and uh we're happy to be with"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "everybody from around the world. Where"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "are you chiming in from? Now roll the"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "next one."}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "All right, we're going to roll this one"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "more time. And the question is, what is"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "going on in Argentina? There's so many"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "sightings from that region over the past"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "few weeks. And this one I like. It's"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "it's it's happening during dusk, so it's"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "not quite dark. And you you can see this"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "illuminated object as it descends down"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "upon the trees and the mother and the"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "daughter or whatever. They're pulled"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "over on the side of the road. They"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "decide to pull their camera out and"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "start shooting whatever this illuminated"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "object is. It almost looks like a a disc"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "right there. And you can see the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "refraction of light on the water. But"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "again, could this be some kind of"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "conventional drone? Brent, what's your"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "thoughts? Yeah, this is a good footage."}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "I like the way she actually rolled down"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "the window to get a better vantage point"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "so there's no, you know, obstruction of"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "what she's trying to capture. Uh, this"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "is cool. And we're seeing this light,"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "pure energy of light descending to the"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "ground. Could this be a drone? I'm not"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "sure. But look, she's rolling down the"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "window just to get a better look at this"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "thing uh uh, you know, coming down to"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "Earth."}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "You know, I what's amazing is that"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "people are just submitting these videos"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "and putting it up to social media to get"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "the word out because they're having the"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "questions across this planet. Um, is"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "this other worldly or is this some"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "something conventional conventional? I"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "want to get your thoughts right now."}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "We're coming in from the Hollywood"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Hills. Where are you tuning in from?"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "Again, a lot of videos just into third"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "phase of moon. This one now it has us"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "thinking, what the heck is going on?"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "Watch this. coming out of Russia."}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "Right. This video lasts for some time."}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "So, we're going to give our take on what"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "we're looking at. And it's broad"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "daylight sighting. And what's"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "interesting over the past few weeks, the"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "Bugosphere, Colombia, it's been lighting"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "up with these metallic orbs. Now,"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "they're being seen just a couple nights"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "ago, we shared with you, coming out of"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "Japan. Uh the same phenomenon of these"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "What are they? Are they just drones from"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "another world keeping an eye out? The"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "the means of propulsion is non-existent"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "in this video. Brett, quickly. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "this one's interesting. This is now"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "being seen over Russia and this is a"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "video we're looking at, but we got more"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "videos to share right now. So, smash"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "that thumbs up. Let's roll this next"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "one."}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "Right."}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "All right. Uh, once again, people"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "driving at the same time while filming"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "UFOs. It's pretty tricky, but we're"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "seeing two in this shot. And it's it's"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "interesting. It's not always easy to"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "capture uh these things, especially"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "while driving. But what we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "is more important. And we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "something that people might call the"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "biologics. And we've been talking about"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "biological UFOs for quite some time"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "here, or these just simply balloons"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "caught up. And again, we're going to get"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "some closeups on this thing. And there's"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "just a vibe about it that just seems"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "off. It doesn't seem normal in our"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "opinion. That's why we're sharing it"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "with you. But then we also want to get"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "your comments of what what do you think"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "these things are, and that's uh"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "something we need to consider. These"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "UFOs, they come in all shapes and sizes."}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "We're going to get a closeup here. Brent"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "managed to kind of get the better parts"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "of the video, but Brett, what do you"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "make of these things? Yeah, we just had"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "videos like this submitted to us a"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "couple weeks ago and people had a lot of"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "opinion, a lot of opinions on what they"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "were looking at, but these are kind of"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "the same kind of object. We see all"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "these kind of, you know, attachments."}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "Could they be balloons merely uh that"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "simple? I'm not sure. But we're looking"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "at something. They sent somebody sent"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "this to us at Third Phase and they said,"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "\"What's your thoughts, guys?\" And uh"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "that's why we're putting it out on a"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "daily basis. We're just here like you"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "guys looking at the phenomenon. No, as"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "I'm looking at this closer, they do say"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "stay in a really close proximity."}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "They're not deviating from their"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "trajectory from one another. They seem"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "almost like they're in a tandem flight"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "pattern. So, if these were random"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "balloons, you'd think that they'd almost"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "swerve off in different directions and"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "be more undulating. It's kind of"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "interesting. And these things seem that"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "they're kind of locked in that they"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "almost have like drone capabilities and"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "that's uh very strange. The the dynamics"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "of it just seems a little off of uh"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "normaly. So that's why we're sharing it"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "with you. Biologics uh biological life"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "forms of unknown origin living amongst"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "us as we speak right now and being"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "captured by the public. Guys, what's"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "your thoughts on that? And uh it's"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "that's a big question right there for"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "you. out again. A lot of videos into"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "third phase. Roll the next one."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "So like we said the phenomenon continues"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "with these metallic spherical objects"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "that are being seen worldwide with no"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "means of propulsion. Now, once again,"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "uh, another country has put up a video."}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "Somebody lucky enough to witness the"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "phenomenon. Hope hopefully people out"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "there that are watching, you've seen it."}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "We know they exist. Uh, Brent, your"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "thoughts coming out of China this time."}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "This is crazy. Yeah, we have the South"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "American region uh, kind of littered"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "over the skies. People are capturing"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "this on a daily basis, the sphere. And"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "now we just dropped one from Russia that"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "was captured I think just a couple days"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "ago. And this one just came into us"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "today out of China. And we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "again the phenomenon. What's what's"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "making these things tick? What's a"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "propulsion behind what we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "this is, you know, pretty much the exact"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "duplicate of what we've been seeing over"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "the past month. And the behavior of"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "these objects, they seem to be, you"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "know, it it just seems to be matching"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "that they're all coming from or or"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "basically they're all the same objects"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "and there's they're all they're"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "everywhere. you know, as we're uh"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "looking at this, um some people, some of"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "the debunkers or somebody that's"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "skeptical will state that this is some"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "kind of possible possible like just a"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "sphere tied with a string with a drone"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "being obscured from the shot. So, we're"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "not seeing the drone carrying this"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "sphere. Um I don't think so. This this"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "one's so much off in a distance, you"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "would think you would see the drone uh"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "coming in into picture frame. Whatever"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "this is, I think it's has its own"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "propulsion. There's no drone above it"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "tied up with the string. In my opinion,"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "I think the the booasphere and these"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "spheres that we're seeing, there's"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "something going on the inside and that's"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "what we need to crack. What's going on?"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "What's making these things tick? That's"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "where we're going to get answers to uh a"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "lot of things. Now, again, a lot more"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "stuff into third phase. Take a look at"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "this, guys."}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "So again, a captured security cam and"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "the video is still rolling. I'm just uh"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "watching this as this thing, this orb"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "again seems to be very interested in"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "this neighborhood. Actually, there is"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "two orbs uh if you watch the video"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "closely, but it it's taking off right"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "now and in just a few moments. I think"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "this runs for approximately a minute and"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "a half, but when I speed up the video,"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "it really gives an indication of uh the"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "surveillance of these unknown objects"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "over neighborhoods around the world."}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "They're watching us. What what the"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "purpose is, I'm not exactly sure, but"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "take a look at this. I sped up the video"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "and there, look at that. It comes down"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "and then another one appears and it"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "seems maybe it's been searching for what"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "went down. Was that a crash that just"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "happened? Let's watch that."}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "Okay, one went down right there and then"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "another one appears and it seems like"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "it's almost in search and then it's like"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "okay and then it takes Oh, that's"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "incredible footage that we're looking"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "at. Now we're just going to roll it."}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "This again, this whole event took place"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "for a matter of a minute or two. Yeah, I"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "I really like this. It reminds me of the"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "escort that dropped off something right"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "there in the neighborhood and then the"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "scout ship said, \"Okay, uh you're on"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "coordinates and I'm going to take you"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "off and whatever mission you're you're"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "doing, you're doing it.\" Okay, here's"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "the first orb that approaches and uh"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "dips off in the neighborhood and look at"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "it. It it just goes behind the homes"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "there. This is impressive. Uh, you know,"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "the security cam footage is uh off the"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "hook and capturing the phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "because it's it's 24/7 and all these"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "millions of homes. This is amazing. Look"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "at it as it goes over the tree line"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "there. I like this footage a lot."}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "I I'm sure there's so many videos of the"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "phenomenon that would blow people's"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "minds and they're still yet on these"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "security cameras that people aren't"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "checking what's what's going on above"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "their skies. Smoking gun stuff. And"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "again, this is interesting videos that"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "have just been coming in. It's good to"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "be with everybody. We've got a one more"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "video I think coming in."}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "Breaking news. Watch this."}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "Yep. Mother nature once again showing"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "its power. Indonesia just had its own"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "crackatoa today. And again, nothing to"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "do with UFOs, but again, this is a"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "seismic event beyond belief. And uh"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "we'll see what happens in the next few"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "days, but the world's active. There's a"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "lot of things going on. And uh again,"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "interesting times here,"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "but uh the video tonight, I want to"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "bring that one up. Uh can you bring up"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "that one video that we opened up? This"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "one's a good one. a lot of stuff. I look"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "like What is that, bro?"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "Dude, I don't know about a cell phone"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "tower. Monk,"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "monk, I don't think it's a cell phone"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "tower, bro. Again, you could hear it in"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "their voices. They're seeing something."}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "It sounds like they're familiar with the"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "territory. They know what's should be"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "there and what shouldn't. And what"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "shouldn't be there is this."}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "Dude, I have never in my life seen"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "anything do what it's doing."}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "Wait, do you you should come look at my"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "phone."}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "I can't stop this. I've never seen any"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "cell phone tower do what this is doing."}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "T-shirt, bro. That is a spaceship."}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "Wait, do you see this Cuz"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "if that's a cell, then where's the other"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "one at? No, the cell phone towers are"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "over there on that side down that end."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "Yeah, those are cell phone tower. What"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "the is that?"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "You know, incredible video. And what's"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "incredible too is the documentary that's"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "about to drop and change everything."}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure, it's going to"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "make its worldwide presence and it's"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "available. The Genius link is in the"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "description. Uh you could pre-order it"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "right now and then June 24th, uh the"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "world's going to be a different place."}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "Uh there's a lot of things on the table"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "right now. Is World War II on the cusp"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "of uh you know, something that humankind"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "might not want to see. Could Disclosure"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "bring closure to this and give us a"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "whole new world? Everybody, asymmetric"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "disclosure, it's coming out. Uh check"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "out that link, that genius link in the"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "description."}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "So you really have to have a select"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "committee in the Congress and a special"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "office in the White House to really"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "master all this information and unpack"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "it and then take the action to stand"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "down these malicious programs. And that"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "is going to be a very heavy lift and a"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "very dangerous operation."}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "Maybe just give them a threat, a very"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "light threat. Let them know like this is"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "not to be talked about any further. And"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "if you do, something could happen."}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "You're either on the side of the law or"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "you're not. And if not, which we can"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "prove they are, you strip them of all"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "that cover."}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "apart. They're doing stuff for spite."}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "They're doing stuff to protect certain"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "individuals or certain industries. And"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "it's it's detrimental to all of us. Oh"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "yeah. People are all talking about World"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "War II and all that. Well, um you know,"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "if we don't change the trajectory we're"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "on, we're going to be in a big problem."}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "Nobody with any sense wants fortune and"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "glory dealing with this. That's the"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "mistake that they all make."}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "Heat. Heat."}]

[{"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "This is Brent Cousins reporting from the"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Hollywood Hills. We got a big episode"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "for you tonight. We're just getting"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "started. Let's roll the first clip for"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "tonight."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "All right, guys. Let's roll this again."}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "Look at this. We're seeing some very"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "strange orbs kind of parowetting with"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "each other, and they seem to be in"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "connection. And these unknown objects"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "are just remaining above the sky over a"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "small neighborhood. And we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "something kind of incredible."}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "Look at these lights. These orbs of"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "energy seem to connect. And near the end"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "of the video is when things turn"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "amazing. Look how these things are"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "merging together. They seem to basically"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "become one. Look at this."}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "Now we have one orb, one single orb, and"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "it disappears and just vanishes from"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "thin air. What are we looking at, guys?"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "This is the phenomenon. This is what"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "Third Phase Moon shares on a daily"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "basis. Let's roll this clip one more"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "time because uh I'm pretty fascinated by"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "what we're looking at here. We're seeing"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "these two orbs kind of at at a distance"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "away from each other. Then they become"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "like aware and they're like, \"Hey, hey,"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "I see you and you see me.\" And then"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "they're seem to be almost communicating"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "with each other. This is incredible"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "footage. What are we looking at, guys?"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "This person, I wonder what he saw or she"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "saw in the beginning of the video that"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "caught their eye because they're looking"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "at something and she or he pulled out"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "their camera and caught something"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "amazing. Look at these things. The"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "conjunction, that's what we're seeing"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "right here. They're becoming a one. Are"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "these"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "orbs energy? They seem almost living,"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "almost biological because what I was"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "looking at there was kind of a a"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "communication it seemed like where"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "they're aware of each other and they"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "wanted to make contact and it's kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "like when ants you see them they they"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "start to crawl and they start to"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "communicate with each other and then"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "they they put their little antennas to"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "each other and they they pass a message"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "and this is what it kind of looks like."}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "They're they're kind of passing a"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "message to each other. They make contact"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "right there and then they just slightly"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "separate and then they're like, \"All"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "right, I I understand what what you"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "want.\" It seems like there's some sort"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "of intelligence. What What are we"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "looking at, guys? Because have you ever"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "seen anything like this? These two orbs."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "They're not, you know, Chinese lanterns."}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "I'm ruling that out. And look at them."}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "They're they're make this this"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "connection again. And it just turns into"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "one orb. This is incredible footage."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "We're just getting started right here at"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. So, smash that"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "thumbs up. Tonight's episode, it it's"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "going to rock. There's things in in this"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "episode that's going to blow you away."}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "We got a TR3B, a possible TR3B that was"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "captured and uh a lot more on the table."}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "So, I got the new clip in. Let's just"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "roll it and uh see what we got here. All"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "right, check this out."}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "Dang. If this is real footage, it's"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "badass. Look at it. We're going to slow"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "this down and take a close look. That"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "looks like an apparent TR3B. It almost"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "looks like there's a body that you can"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "see the black mass, the triangular"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "shaped craft, and the lights just"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "popping off like it's a, you know, a"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Christmas tree on steroids. And it's"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "right there floating above the treetop."}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "I'm digging it, but I don't know. Is"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "this AI? I'm not so sure. It's looking"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "pretty legitimate. You know, AI is"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "getting pretty good out there, but I I"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "really like the the action on this. The"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "camera action. And even the lens flares"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "seem to be uh matching here. Here it"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "Here it is again. We're going to slow it"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "down. You see the lens flare on the left"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "there kind of bouncing in and out. It It"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "looks like uh it looks legit. It It"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "looks like it's being captured from an"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "iPhone. And then we we're seeing these"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "lights, these array of lights that are"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "in the shape of basically the infamous"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "TR3B."}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "Look at this thing. But, you know, it"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "could be maybe too good to be true. And"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "when it when it looks too good to be"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "true, you got to ask the question, is"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "this, you know, legitimate footage? And"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "you know what? You know, sometimes I say"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "if I'm kind of a betting man and I'm not"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "sure if I'd lay money on this. What's"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "your thoughts, guys? Is this uh the"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "legendary TR3B that was captured on film"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "or could this be a hoax? The rays of"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "light kicking off this thing look pretty"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "cool, but that could be done"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "artificially. I'm not sure. Again, guys,"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "what are we looking at? I'm still on the"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "fence on this one. But we got more"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "videos that just came in. So, I got that"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "right there in the timeline. I'm going"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "to just put it there for you all to see."}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "So, let's just check this one out."}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "All right, this was just captured this"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "week over the nuclear power plant"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "Fukushima. And we all know what happened"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "there where a tidal wave wiped it out"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "and it's still decommissioned. And but"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "we're looking at something strange. A"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "fleet of UFOs that are surrounding the"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Fukushima plant. And this is pretty"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "wild. What are they doing there? Is this"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "UFOs that are checking out something"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "that basically was really devastating to"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "our world and our ocean? And yeah, look"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "at this fleet. It seems to be"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "surrounding it. Look at that one"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "approach to the right. That was a good"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "closeup right there. Again, we're seeing"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "the phenomenon which has been talked"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "about in the news that these orbs of"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "light or whatever they are are flying"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "over our nuclear facilities around the"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "world. And here's clear proof that we're"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "seeing something right there over"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "Fukushima in Japan. And this is uh just"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "insane footage right here. All right,"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "let's roll this clip. That caught my"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "eye. We're looking at a closeup of these"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "apparent UFOs flying over the nuclear"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "power plant over there. And that was"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "interesting. This doesn't look like your"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "uh typical drone in my opinion as as it"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "makes its way right over that uh power"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "plant over there in Japan, Fukushima. Uh"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "wild stuff. What's your opinion? Are"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "UFOs uh what what's their reason going"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "over these sensitive areas around the"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "planet? Are there are they there to"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "collect energy to, you know, power up"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "their spaceships or is there a concern"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "on their end? We just don't know the"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "answer to that. And uh that's why we're"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "going to follow this story that's uh"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "kind of breaking out of Japan. All"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "right, new videos that are uh that just"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "came out the plate. So, let's serve it"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "up right here. Take a look."}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "All right, this video didn't last very"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "long, but the camera person had a really"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "a short opportunity to film this"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "phenomenon in the sky. What in the world"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "are we looking at? Some people might say"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "it looks like, you know, a necklace with"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "the cross at the bottom of it that says"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "falling through the sky, but that's not"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "the case. I don't know what this is. I"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "don't think they're balloons."}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "Balloons don't behave like this. And"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "I've never seen anything like a balloon"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "being shaped like that. And the way it"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "just stays, it has its rigidness, too."}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "It's rigid. It's stiff. It's not moving"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "or oscillating. This is a just curious"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "footage. What is it, guys? I don't know"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "if it's any technology to do with this."}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "It could be biological or it could be"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "maybe biblical a statement. Who knows?"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "But uh look at this. It's up there in"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "the sky and it's large. I'm saying about"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "40 50 feet, maybe a little smaller, but"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "it it's not small. And this thing's just"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "falling, descending to the ground over"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "there. Uh good capture right here. We're"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "looking at something pretty darn cool in"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "my opinion. All right, like I said, it's"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "a packed episode right here at"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. So, uh we're just"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "getting started. Uh buckle up and smash"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "that thumbs up if you haven't. And if"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "you haven't subscribed, if you're new to"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "this channel, I suggest you hit that"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "subscription button right now. Okay. Did"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "you just see that? Let's play it again."}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "Snap. This is incredible footage. Look"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "at the speed of this object. You see it"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "at a distance. We're going to slow it"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "down so we could just get a close look."}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "But look how fast that this is in real"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "time when you see that kind of it almost"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "looks like this thing's moving at light"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "speed. But could this be the tic tac"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "traveling at 30,000 m an hour? That's"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "what it would kind of look like. And"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "wow, look at that streak of light it"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "leaves right over the neighborhood. This"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "is just the proof that we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "phenomenon and capabilities of"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "technology that is beyond imagination. I"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "really like that light display that it"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "flashed right there on the ground. But"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "yeah, I'm going to just uh play it a few"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "times, loop it, and this is incredible."}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "That's real time footage right when you"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "see it. Let me show show it to you right"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "now. Boom. And it's uh faster than a"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "blinking of eye. If you blink your eye,"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "you may miss it. But wow, we're looking"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "at proof of something foreign uh of"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "technology that that hasn't been shown"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "to us or it's hidden or something"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "otherworldly. What are we looking at,"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "guys? Uh what's your take on this one?"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "I'm digging this video quite a bit. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "It's just darn cool. All right, new uh"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "videos that just popped in on the radar."}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "Roll it."}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "sent this to us and they wanted to get"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "our opinion. And this is some of the"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "best footage that I've seen of the"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "phenomenon. It looks almost like"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "something ghostly. Like it's just there"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "and you could barely make out like it's"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "materializing out of thin air and"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "showcasing itself. But this is in my"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "opinion you know a circumstance of just"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "atmospheric optical phenomena that kind"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "of resembles that you know the rainbow"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "arcs and basically it's light re"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "refracting through you know tiny ice"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "crystals and we seen this phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "before and I got another one in Q2 as"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "well just to show an example right after"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "this video. But have you ever seen"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "anything like this? This is I would like"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "I would want to get right up to that"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "thing and kind of touch it. Maybe I'd"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "say get in there and just get right in"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "the middle of that thing and take a"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "picture. But this is breathtaking and"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "it's really just a beautiful site. And"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "maybe people might think seeing this"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "back in the day. They wouldn't know what"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "to really they wouldn't understand what"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "they're looking at. They might think"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "it's something otherworldly or maybe"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "again biblical. Who knows? But yeah,"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "what a perfect capture under the array"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "of uh these rare uh optical phenomenons"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "that basically don't happen very often."}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "All right, I'm going to roll another"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "one. Watch this."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "Look, I'm"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "Look how it bends the light and the arc."}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "It's It's just massive. And you could"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "see kind of these other, you know, prism"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "action happening within this massive"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "circle of the again another phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "happening. And what a great capture by"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "people. They see it. They recognize it."}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "They know this is uh not normal. And"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "they pull over on the side of the road"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "and look, it's even behind them. This is"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "kind of like a 360 uh panel vision of"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "just this beautiful display that's"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "happening on planet Earth. Yeah. I don't"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "think this obviously has anything to do"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "with aliens or maybe project blue beam."}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "I think this is just natural events and"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "if he captures something amazing like"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "this, we'd love to look at this because"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "I've never seen uh this before. And I"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "just like the way he turned the camera"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "basically a 180. And right there, right"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "behind him, he's seen, you know, just"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "another arc of uh this incredible"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "display that's that's happening."}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "All right, guys. Yeah, it was a busy day"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "for me in Hollywood. Had to do a lot of"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "things, but I managed to put together"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "this episode for you, and I'm so glad I"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "did. Pretty exciting stuff. Now, I just"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "wanted to give you a heads up that"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure is dropping June"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "24th, 2025. Uh, watch a trailer and get"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "the pre-order link. It's in the"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "description below. You're either on the"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "side of the law or you're not."}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "happen."}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "apart. Everybody wants to be in there."}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "Can you give any kind of sneak peek of"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "what that's like? That organization has"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "had the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "Serious questions tonight. A growing"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "number of drone sightings. How do you"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "set up a believable false flag and"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "operations that looks like it's alien"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "when it isn't?"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny deny"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "and the president doesn't know about"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "humanity."}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "[Music]"}]

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Don't know what the videos are"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "supposed to show, but um somebody tell"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "me what the heck is this in the video."}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "What is this?"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "So, is that how helicopters are supposed"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "to look or"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "All right, Brent Cousins here joining"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "you from the Hollywood Hills. How's"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "everybody doing tonight? We got a big"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "show. We got a ton of UFOs. We got an"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "adventure in Gobeclaye with Blake and"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "Apollo. What hidden mysteries are there?"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "Well, we're going to find out. There's"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "there's something going on that that's"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "the truth. Well, right now we're looking"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "at something maybe incredible, maybe"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "mundane, but we're looking at three"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "glowing objects moving from left to"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "right. He says he pulled out his brand"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "new Samsung uh I'm not sure the model,"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "but he says it's a new one. I'm not sure"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "if Samsung has some issues with their"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "lenses, but we're looking at something"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "that's kind of strange. We're going to"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "add and adjust some brightness contrast"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "to this and we're going to see what he's"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "talking about. He says, \"Do helicopters"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "look like this?\" And here we go. Look at"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "the warped trail that's being left"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "behind on these objects. This is"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "incredible footage. I'm not sure, maybe"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "UFOs or some sort of advanced technology"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "is kind of cloaking themselves using,"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "you know, the sound of a helicopter, but"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "it might not be the case. We're looking"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "at something kind of weird. One, two,"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "three, and then we're seeing that top"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "one. It does have that kind of red"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "light, the FAA light."}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "So maybe it's a little mix of both. I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "not sure. But what's your opinion, guys?"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "What's with the static energy that's"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "just, you know, kind of coming out from"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "the backside and doesn't really seem to"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "have the the straight motion. It almost"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "seems to be, you know, wobbling to an"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "effect."}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "Well, this guy, you know, he said he"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "pulled out his new Samsung. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "sure. Maybe the sensors in the camera"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "are picking up the light a little bit"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "differently with the new technology and"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "it's not it's you know not capturing"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "reality. I'm not sure. Um I might uh"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "send this to Samsung just to see uh what"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "effect are we looking at here or is this"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "a a true thing cuz he saw this in the"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "sky. And if you're seeing that with your"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "naked eye, you're going to say, \"What in"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "the world's happening?\" And this may"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "indeed be something uh special."}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "All right, we're going to play it one"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "more time. And again, we got a ton of"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "UFO videos and an adventure coming up in"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "just a bit, but that's a really good"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "shot of"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "uh the You know, what are we looking at?"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "Propulsion behind these these three"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "craft. Is that it? Wow. Incredible stuff"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "right here at Third Phase. All right, I"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "got the next video in Q. Let's roll it."}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "All right, this video is coming in from"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "Saudi Arabia."}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "Let's take a look at this. It looks like"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "a rocket, but we did a little"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "investigation. This is basically"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "unlikely a Space X uh rocket that would"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "have been captured from America and seen"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "in Saudi Arabia. So maybe they're doing"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "some sort of other test. But Alfa has"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "sent us this video from Saudi Arabia and"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "is asking third phase moon. What do you"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "think?"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "Well, AlfaZ, we're taking a look and"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "we're seeing some incredible It's an"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "incredible display. Absolutely. You just"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "see it kind of, you know, it has all"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "this thrust and then it just it vanishes"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "almost completely"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "and then it leaves just this kind of a,"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "you know, trail, but then there it goes."}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "It it seems to ignite. You know, we've"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "seen rockets and um definitely I'm very"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "familiar with SpaceX uh launches. I've"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "seen them personally. It's a it's a very"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "exciting thing to see. But right now"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "it it has this display, but we're pretty"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "much ruling out SpaceX. I'm wondering if"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Saudi Arabia is doing their own test or"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "it's coming in from another part of that"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "area. Who knows?"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "But if I saw this, definitely I would"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "film it. Well, Afiaz, I appreciate you"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "sharing this all the way from Saudi"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "Arabia. our our reach is pretty much"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "worldwide and it's pretty impressive"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "that we uh we receive videos from every"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "part of this pl of part of this planet."}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "It's amazing. All right, we got"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "something special coming up. We have"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "Blake and Apolla. They make an"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "appearance uh pretty much the way I"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "never seen go before and they go go into"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "detail and this is quite the adventure."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "So, I'm going to just roll this out and"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "and catch you midway before they go to"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "the second uh Tepe and I'll give you a"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "little heads up on that. Sky's the"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "limits. Join us on this special episode."}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "All right, we just arrived at the"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "parking lot and now we're on a shuttle"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "bus. I guess they don't want any people"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "parking and driving up. So, we're on our"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "way up to goe. The bus is kind of full."}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "We're in the back seat, but let me tell"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "you, we're quite excited uh to share"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "with you this astonishing site. Only one"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "place like it in the world, and we're"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "about to do it. So, give us a big thumbs"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "up. Go teepe. Let's do this."}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "All right, we're at the precipice. Go"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "teepe just there to the right. Again,"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "quite amazing."}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "Just less than a decade ago, a farmer"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "was out here, saw something peculiar."}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "They unearthed it, and found something"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "that's still unexplained today. And uh"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "we're here. Let's take a look. All"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "right, we just went through uh security"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "once again. They put us on a second"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "shuttle. I can see Quebec Lake Tempe off"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "in the distance over here. Again,"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "security is pretty tight, but um a lot"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "of tourists want to see this"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "destination, and it's just interesting"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "kind of the protocol you got to go"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "through to get up here. But, uh we're"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "almost there."}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "All right. the significance of this"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "spot."}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "What was the purpose of their uh"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "building this structure in this area? I"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "guess Sandler is to the right of me down"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "below. I guess this is pretty much the"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "highest point in this region. But look"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "at this vastness."}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "Basically in the middle of nowhere."}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "Why? What was the purpose? Again, this"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "location"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "is approximately 12,000 years old. 8,000"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "years older than the pyramid."}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "about 6,000 years older than Stonehenge."}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "Right. When you look at these colossal"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "figures, you can make out a pigeon"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "sitting on top of one of the stone"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "tablets writings."}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "What was the purpose of this place?"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "very expensive,"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "unusual. Some people claimed that this"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "was"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "some kind of possible data center,"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "right? When you look behind me, we have"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "these colossal rocks here formed with"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "craftsmanship that it's hard to imagine,"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "12,000 years old. And what was the"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "purpose? Some of this area has still yet"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "to be"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "unbarly. They've stopped the excavation,"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "but uh right now what lies behind me,"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "it's quite incredible. These things"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "weigh up to 40 tons. And uh what we're"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "looking at here"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "is still a mystery to this day."}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "So, here we are at Quebec. And you know"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "what's really interesting about this"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "site is that the time that it was built"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "around 11,600 years ago actually"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "coincides with about the the ending of"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "the supposed worldwide flood or"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "worldwide cataclysm that there's been"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "evidence of it happening all over the"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "earth around that time period. So, a lot"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "of people have investigated this and"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "wondered because these areas down here"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "were filled up, you know, basically at"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "one point they were buried like"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "purposely they were filled in with stone"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "and buried. So, a lot of people wonder"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "if maybe this is a time capsule to the"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "future of humanity for the future"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "people. um you know maybe they"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "apparently there's some inscriptions on"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "some of these stones that actually"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "coincide with some astrological"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "alignments that happened when a certain"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "comet came around every 5,600 years or"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "so. So um a lot of people think that"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "maybe this is a time capsule that was"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "kind of put here so that the future of"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "humanity will understand when this time"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "could happen again where possibly"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "another cataclysm could happen in our"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "future. But you know this is a theory of"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "course."}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "Yeah, that's right, Apollo. No, there's"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "still no answers to exactly what the"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "meaning of the construction is, but as"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "you look at it, there's pigeons around."}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "You can kind of get a size comparison of"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "how large uh these objects are. Uh"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "absolutely"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "incredible craftsmanship once again, but"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "uh some people actually said that this"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "is some kind of possible like opening of"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "a portal or a computer system. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "sure about that, but again, the answers"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "still remain."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "All right. So, some ancient astronaut"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "theorists have suggested that um you"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "know the Samrian tablets has a story to"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "play in this with the Anunnaki. Uh they"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "say that this site is basically what has"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "been said to be the Garden of Eden or"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "the place of the first man because you"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "know it's been said that the Garden of"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Eden is in between the Tigris and"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "Euphrates which is where this site is"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "and they say that the Anunnaki possibly"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "genetically engineered humans right here"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "at this site."}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "As we're uh kind of looking around, I"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "notice a little a plateau kind of stands"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "out in my opinion."}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "Goleep is the tip of the iceberg here."}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "This place has yet to be, you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "fully explored. Apparently, the"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "government's kind of shut down"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "excavation. But as we're looking at this"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "plateau here, this is an indicator that"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "there might be another goleep part two"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "right in this area. If you notice this"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "little plateau here, we're going to keep"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "discovering this area."}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "All right, so uh what's behind me over"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "here looks to be the second excavation"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "site. And apparently they've ceased any"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "more exploration of the area. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "exactly sure why. Uh some people say"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "that this is a part that they kind of"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "don't want you to film, but we decided I"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "don't know. It looks like a kind of a"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "flying disc over here, but I wonder"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "what's laid beneath the surface right"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "behind me."}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "So, the people of Turkey obviously built"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "something that's quite incredible. A lot"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "of people come to this location to try"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "and find awareness,"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "try and find answers to what's going on"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "on our planet right now. Now Blake and"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "Apolla are heading to Kadahan, the"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "second stop on their journey."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "Discovered in 1997,"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "recently excavated in 2019. We're about"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "to head up to the mountain. Again, this"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "place has been dated even older than"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "Gobec\u00e9 Teepe. So again, the reason"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "behind some of these megalithic"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "structures still remain a mystery. And"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "we're going to go find out what it's all"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "about."}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "So we're basically in the middle of the"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "desert."}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "No sign of life, actually. Rugged"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "terrain is about as bad as it gets."}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "Syria, we're off the border, very close"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "to Syria. And again, what's happening up"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "here? Some people say that this is a"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "place of worship, maybe a sacrificial uh"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "area. Again, some of the megalithic"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "structures that we've seen at Gobecley"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "Teepe, we've asked the locals and they"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "say they don't understand how they could"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "build that. How could they build these"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "megalithic structures with the tools"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "from over 12,000 years ago? Still"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "remains a mystery. And this is the light"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "kind to go back."}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "Karan tepe. Another mystery right here"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "in Turkey."}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "So, we're over here at Kurahan. Just"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "made it to the top of the mountain here."}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "And you know, it's pretty amazing"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "because this site has obviously not been"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "fully excavated yet. Um, behind me you"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "see statue which looks to be like a"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "symphallic symbolism. Apparently the"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "site has a lot of that that they've been"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "finding. They think is like a, you know,"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "kind of like a religious maybe even"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "sacrificial site. Um, you know, like I"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "said about goep, it's kind of the same"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "thing that happened here where it was"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "purposely buried and filled in. So all"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "these sites were filled in with stone,"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "covered up and buried almost like a"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "seems like a time capsule for maybe"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "future people to see. So you know are"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "these sites a warning to the future of"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "humanity? Do they have uh some sort of"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "symbolism that they wanted us to see"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "now? Very interesting."}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "brought it out in the middle of nowhere."}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "This desert, vast, hundreds of miles,"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "nowhere, no civilization anywhere"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "around, but just up on this hilltop,"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "they've decided to start building"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "megalithic structures that seemingly"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "defy"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "common construction of this time. It's"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "amazing stuff."}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "So, it's kind of hard to believe that"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "out here uh when this site was built"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "that it was actually the end of the ass"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "last ice age when it was originally"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "built kind of around the time that the"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "great flood or a cataclysm supposedly"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "hit the planet. Um, you know, it's kind"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "of hard to believe now because obviously"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "we're out here in the middle of the"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "desert. And as you can see behind me"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "right here, we have what they call the"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "pit room, which uh is probably one of"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "the most important sites that have been"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "excavated here. Some people believe that"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "maybe it was uh used for sacrificial"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "purposes, but also um you know there's a"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "lot of kind of symbolism of fertility at"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "this site. So maybe this was like a"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "fertility kind of um worship site."}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "Karahan Pepe. Again, a massive"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "situation going on over here."}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "Unexplained still to this day. People"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "speculate the reasoning behind the"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "incredible structures behind me. You can"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "see that some of it still partially not"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "exposed yet. The the government's taking"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "their time unearthing these incredible"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "sites. In the future, we're probably"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "going to get more answers to what really"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "is the purpose to this location. Again,"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "a lot of history right here."}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "I want to thank everybody from around"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "the world who joined us in the special"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "episode. Give us a big thumbs up on the"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "way out and everybody keep your eyes on"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "the skies. Blake Cousins, we'll see you"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "next time."}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "Welcome back. It's Brent Cousins"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "reporting from the Hollywood Hills."}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "Guess what? The Boogasphere, it's back"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "and we got two new videos. Let's roll"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "Oof."}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "Wait."}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "All right, let's roll this again. Look"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "at this. We're looking at new footage,"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "very compelling, of the boggasphere, and"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "it's making the rounds over there in"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "Colombia. And this is crystal clear"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "footage of the sphere in action again."}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "Look at this thing. It's making"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "unorthodox moves. And just took a deep"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "dive right below the the the tree, the"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "bushes there."}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "Now it just arose again. And look at"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "this thing. It's doing these moves that"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "don't make any sense. What are these"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "things? And what are their missions? I"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "believe they're up to something. Are"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "they some sort of like surveillance"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "drone? This is incredible. Again, we got"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "two new videos. This one uh just came in"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "to Third Phase Moon. And we're also"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "going to get some steals of this this"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "object. And it's impressive. This is"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "being seen again about about a month"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "ago. Now we have these things in a"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "scientist hands and these things are"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "flying all over the skies over Colombia."}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "Who's making them? Where are they coming"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "from? Are they otherworldly? Dang. We're"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "looking at some cool stuff. I really"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "like this video cuz it just it lasts for"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "a while. It's authentic. And look at"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "that. You do see that kind of uh, you"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "know, ring around uh, this sphere, this"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "metallic sphere that almost looks like"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "it's made out of stainless steel. All"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "right, I'm going to bring in Look at"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "that move. Incredible. And it just does"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "these weird strange bounces. All right,"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "here's a steel. And we're looking at the"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "same kind of action as we saw with this"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "last sphere that was picked up when it"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "crashed. And it looks like it looks"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "identical. This is insane."}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "What is this, guys? I believe this is,"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "you know, turning out to be a legitimate"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "story. They seem to be everywhere. All"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "right, we're going to roll the second"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "video that just came in from the same"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "area. Let's look at it."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Dang, guys. I'm getting pretty excited"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "about the the boggasphere. We just know"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "what a We want to know really what makes"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "these things tick because there's"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "something about this. The propulsion"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "really doesn't make any sense. We're not"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "obviously we're not seeing any rotor"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "blades and this thing is not a balloon."}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "I I'm I'm ruling that out. We got to"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "rule that out. And the unconventional"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "moves that this thing makes is"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "outstanding. Again, this is legitimate"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "footage. There's no CGI, no AI, 100%. I"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "would lay money on it. This footage is"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "absolutely 100% legit. And look at this"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "thing. How does it make these maneuvers?"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "Some people were speculating that this"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "could be maybe strung up on a string"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "from a high-flying drone, which is out"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "of picture, but you know, I I'm ruling"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "that out, too. To make a drone do these"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "kind of maneuvers, you know, it's not"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "easy. And we're not seeing any sort of"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "tether. I believe this thing is flying"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "on its own accord, but what's keeping"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "this thing up in the sky? What's the"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "propulsion? What do they have? What's"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "What's in this dang thing?"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "There it goes. is just kind of, you"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "know, making its rounds. Kind of a, you"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "know, it seems like it's aware that it's"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "being filmed and almost showing off to a"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "sense like, hey, look what I could do."}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "And they're not hiding anymore. They're"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "basically in plain sight. And what a"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "great close-up. You You just saw that"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "bird go by. Uh, that's good. I like"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "that. Just it just rings. Everything"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "rings that this is a legitimate footage."}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "What's your thoughts, guys? I'm digging"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "this a lot. two new shots of the"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "bogusphere right into third phase moon"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "and we just we've been sharing all these"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "things of this phenomenon and it's been"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "breaking this whole month. It's"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "incredible. Now here again the first"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "shot right there. Incredible. And look"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "at this thing again."}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "Just incredible footage. It's 100%"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "legit. I'm I'm digging this stuff. All"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "right, we got new video coming in into"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "third phase moon. We're just getting"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "started here. Smash that thumbs up,"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "everybody. And uh I'm in the Hollywood"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "Hills. Where is everybody else joining"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "us from? Listen to this. Why does this"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "look like Trump? Do you see this cloud?"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "It's actually terrifying."}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "It literally looks like Trump."}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "Trump, is that you?"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "Slightly terrifying."}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "It was actually insane"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "how much that looks like Trump."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "Trump, is that you?"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "All right, I'm going to add and adjust a"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "little brightness and contrast to this."}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "And what do you see? It's It's kind of"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "funny. You hear it in the girl's voice."}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "She says she can't believe it. She says"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "it looks like our President Donald J."}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Trump. And it really does. Look at that"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "profile. And what's amazing, I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "know, the hair, too. The clouds seem to"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "be whipping, kind of creating this, I"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "don't know, piece of art in the clouds"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "of Donald Trump. It's kind of stunning."}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "And then again, there's no AI. This is"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "uh legitimate footage right here. Look"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "at uh what's going on. There's even a"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "little lightning strike there. But look"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "at that. There is a profile of President"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "Donald Trump. What's your take on this?"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "Some people might, you know, lean"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "towards this being some sort of, you"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "know, projection of, you know, harp or"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "project blue beam. And, you know, I'm"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "not sure about all that, but I I do"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "think you could do and look at things in"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "the clouds and make a, you know, these"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "judgments of paridolia. Who knows? But"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "more videos coming in. Check this out,"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "guys."}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "Commission You know,"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "it's not running."}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "All right, let's roll this a few more"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "times. Look at this thing. Just"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "basically straight up there in the sky."}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "This guy's right on target and he's got"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "it, you know, trained with his camera."}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "He's he's got a direct contact with this"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "thing and they're kind of tripping out."}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "you you hear them discussing uh what"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "this object could be and then it kind of"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "just fades out right there and then it"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "starts to kind of shoot through the"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "clouds and it's interesting. This thing"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "seems to almost power up a little bit."}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "Look at this thing. I've not seen any"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "kind of drone light display on this."}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "These are the orbs that are being"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "captured all over the world. What are"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "they"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "there? We're going to get some close-ups"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "of this, but you do see that it it it is"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "charging up. It seems to be getting"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "bigger, and the glow of light seems to"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "be getting more intense."}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "All right, I'm going to get a closeup of"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "this object. And there it is, right from"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "the beginning."}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "And let's watch this thing just kind of"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "fade out. It just disappears at at this"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "moment. Here it comes."}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "there. Maybe it just got tucked behind"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "the clouds. That's a possibility. But"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "then it fades out again and reappears"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "and shoots through the clouds. This"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "thing seems to be pretty far up there."}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "And look at this thing just stream"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "across the sky. Is this a drone, guys?"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "I'm not I don't believe it is. I'm kind"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "of leaning towards the phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "watching this. Again, look at this thing"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "as it charges up."}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "It seems to have this plasmic energy uh"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "around it. And it has this glow of"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "intensity. That's really really cool. I"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "like this. Look at that. What a good"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "closeup there. Yeah, these guys were"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "filming it. This this thing was pretty"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "far at pretty some distance away and"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "this thing this object seems to have"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "flown right over uh this person's head"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "and he got a great vantage point. I'm"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "going to roll this one more time."}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "Wow. This is cool. I like the way it"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "just disappeared. And I don't think it"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "went behind the clouds at a certain"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "point either. I'm I'm believing that"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "this is actually uh it's kind of going"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "in and out of existence cuz I don't see"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "a craft. This seems like pure energy of"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "light."}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "And there it is. Yeah, quite high up."}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "Maybe about 2,000 feet, maybe more. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "hard to tell, but there it is. the"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "original shot as uh we just rolled it."}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "Pretty pretty cool stuff. All right,"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "like I said, if we got more videos that"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "just came in to third phase and I'm just"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "going to put it on. Let's roll."}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "All right. What in the world is going on"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "here? This is, you know, people might"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "say the matrix. Look at these things. We"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "have, I don't know, four to five, six"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "birds. It seems to be frozen in the sky."}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "You just saw a bird fly by there. But"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "look at this. If we could see the wings"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "and they're in perfect, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "stillness and there's no movement"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "whatsoever. Look at this. What's your"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "thoughts, guys? I don't know, man. I saw"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "this and I was thinking and leaning"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "towards the the weird effect of the"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "matrix. It's brought up. Elon Musk"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "thinks that it's a possibility. It's a"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "scientifically it could be possible that"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "uh this could be a glitch and we're"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "looking at it right there. Now, more"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "footage from a woman pulled over on the"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "freeway and she captured this something"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "weird floating over the sky. This is I77"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "near. And yes, I pulled off to the side"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "because I had to take this video. I know"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "I didn't have to take the video, but I"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "wanted to take the video because"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "something strange is floating in the sky"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "and they're not birds."}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "Anyone know how to identify this?"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "All right, I better get back."}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "All right, this footage was captured in"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "Ohio and this woman managed to pull over"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "on the side of the freeway. She was"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "looking at something that she couldn't"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "explain and she still has no answer to"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "what this is. Now it we're looking at"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "this. It doesn't look like, you know, a"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "fleet of drones or balloons or birds or"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "any of that. It looks very strange."}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "That's all I got to say. We're going to"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "get a couple uh close-ups of this. And"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "uh interesting. I like this girl's"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "capture. Yeah, it's a little dangerous"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "pulling over on the side of the freeway"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "to capture UFOs, but this girl had some"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "guts. And look at this. I'm giving her a"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "thumbs up on her trying her best to get"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "this up. Whatever fleet of objects"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "that's just flying over the sky over"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "Ohio. If you're in this uh area, did you"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "see this? I'm sure we got some fans from"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "Ohio right now probably listening. And"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "I'm sure you're familiar with this area."}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "And if you're there, if if you seen"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "something like this, ascend that footage"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "to third phase. What is this, guys? It's"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "not military. They're not helicopters."}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "It just it seems like a fleet of"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "something that's just drifting in the"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "sky over there just kind of in plain"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "sight. Uh they're not hiding. Like I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "saying, uh they're basically making"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "appearance. And again, some unidentified"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "fleet of objects over there in Ohio."}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "Wow. Good stuff here. More videos coming"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "in."}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "All right, this is some pretty badass"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "footage in my opinion. Look at this."}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "We're looking at three lights. They're"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "stationary. It could be one craft. I'm"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "not sure. But look at that top uh light"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "there just pulsating kind of a doing"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "this static discharge. And we got two"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "other objects right there at the bottom"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "just hovering. They're not falling,"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "guys. These things are stationary in the"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "sky. What is this? I'm digging it. This"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "just goes back to what I keep saying."}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "The phenomenon is showcasing itself"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "right here at Thirdphase Moon. And if"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "you're not, if you're believing that"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "this is uh something that's made by us,"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "uh I'm not sure. This looks totally"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "something otherworldly, some strange"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "technology that we're not familiar with."}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "And there it is. just hovering over the"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "fields and they're not descending. All"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "right, more videos coming in."}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "Wow. Let's roll this a few more times."}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "The videos are coming in so fast and"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "they're amazing. Again, more legitimate"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "footage of something unexplainable. that"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "this isn't quite the bugosphere, but it"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "looks very strange. It looks almost"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "biological, and it's not budging. It"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "just stays right there in the sky"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "hovering there. And this thing's large."}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "I think it's a little much bigger than"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "the Boogasphere. I'd imagine this thing"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "being more like 10 ft, maybe even"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "larger. I'm not sure, but I'm really"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "digging this. And there it is. the"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "unidentified flying objects that come"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "into Third Phase on a daily basis. And"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "uh let us know your opinions of what you"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "think this is. All right, footage that"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "just came across her table. Is this a"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "jetpack man?"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "All right. This video was shot in"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "Buffalo City, New York in 2020. Now look"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "at this thing. It looks humanoid and"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "there it's quite interesting to see this"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "thing just hovering above the trees in a"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "neighborhood. Uh this is wild. It it"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "looks like it, you know, the jetpack man"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "that has been seen at airports in Los"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "Angeles. And this footage from 2020,"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "I've never seen this. So that's why"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "we're sharing it right now at Third"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "Phase. And we're looking at something"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "very cool. It seemed to have make a turn"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "right there, too. I like it because"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "there's kind of three vantage points of"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "whatever this is. Very cool. New stuff"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "just in. Roll it."}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "All right. This video just dropped a"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "couple hours ago and it's breaking. The"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "Bogasphere in Colombia. They're making"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "the rounds. It seems that there"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "basically swarms of these things and"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "people are catching this on film pretty"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "much on a daily basis. We need to, you"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "know, grab more of these things and see"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "what makes these things tick because"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "we're looking at something that's moving"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "unconventionally."}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "And like I said, these things, it seems"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "heavy. This isn't like some, you know,"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "balloon. I'm ruling that out. This has"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "some sort of density to it. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "probably guesstimating that this is"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "probably if this was a stainless steel"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "ball, man, it's going to weigh some"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "pounds. That's for sure. Especially if"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "it's the size of a basketball or a"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "little bit larger. Imagine like a steel"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "ball bearing the size of a basketball."}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "You know, it's going to have some"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "weight. But now we got to ask ourselves,"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "what's the propulsion that's within this"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "thing that keeps it flying? And why are"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "they over the Colombian region? And why"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "are they be being captured on film now"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "so frequently? This is wild. And I I"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "know they're in science uh scientists"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "hands at the moment. But man, I think"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "they need to bring these things down."}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "One of them bring it bring it to"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "America. We need American scientists uh"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "studying this thing. And it needs to be"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "open source where everybody gets to see"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "it in real time. and and let's open"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "these things up. I want to know the the"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "mechanics behind this. Maybe there's no"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "mechanics. Maybe it's just a a"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "supercharged battery or who knows? It's"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "hard telling. Maybe there's this, you"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "know, maybe it could be nuclear powered"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "at some point and a little, you know,"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "some sort of source energy. Man, it it's"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "wild to think about what could be uh"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "keeping these things up in the sky. But"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "wow, it's just been amazing. the sphere,"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "the Booga sphere. It's back. All right,"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "guys. Brent Cousins reporting from the"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "Hollywood Hills. It was so awesome being"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "with you and appreciate the support, the"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "super chats, and your subscriptions. It"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "means a lot. Brent Cousins, we'll see"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "you next time. You're either on the side"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "of the law or you're not."}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "The only way you're going to get to it"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "is somebody at the executive level that"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "says enough is enough. Cut the money"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "off. Bring these people in. Let's go."}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "This is not to be talked about any"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "further. And if you do, something can"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "happen."}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "All we need is one to be accurate. And"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "this whole concept of UFO crash"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "retrieval non-existing completely falls"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "apart. Everybody wants to be in there."}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "Can give any kind of sneak peek of what"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "that's like. That organization has had"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "the ability since the 60s to hit a"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "button and simulate an alien attack on"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "the planet using these technologies."}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "Serious questions tonight amid a growing"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "number of drone sightings. How do you"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "set up a believable false flag and"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "operations that looks like it's alien"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "when it isn't?"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "So when it happens, they're not shocked."}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "They're not stunned. They can say, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "we knew this was going to happen.\""}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "which is potentially the most dangerous"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "where they're talking about quote"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "unquote catastrophic disclosure."}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "They put it into secrecy, they deny deny"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "and then they shut the people up"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "and the president doesn't know about"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "that is an existential threat to"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "humanity."}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "Asymmetric Disclosure available"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "worldwide June 24th, 2025."}]

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This is going to be a wild"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "episode, but we're going to get started"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "with Dan Driscoll, but I just want to"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "tell you a little bit about this"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "documentary. We have Travis Walton's"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "son, Luke Walton, and he explains his"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "encounter with his mom when he ran into"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "Bigfoot. And then we get two more people"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "from Xolo, Arizona, and they have their"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "spooky encounters. What they say will"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "amaze you. This goes into depth of, you"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "know, we all know Bigfoot. We don't have"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "the smoking gun. We don't have the body,"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "but we do have evidence. We do have"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "eyewitness accounts and people that has"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "lived there for generations. The"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "Indians, they seen it and they call it"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "Sasquatch. What are we witnessing? We're"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "pretty much getting weekly updates with"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "footage with regards to this creature,"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "the mythological creature known as"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "Bigfoot. Well, let's get into what Dan"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "Driscoll just broke. We don't know if"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "it's a slip of the tongue. What's your"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "take, Blake?"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase Moon. Blake"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "Cousins, we've got the special report"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "for you today. US Army Secretary Dan"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "Driscoll just said something amazing on"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "Fox News earlier today speaking about"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "communications with a soldier on the"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "moon. Listen up. As young Americans"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "across the country get to see all of the"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "amazing things that the Army has done,"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "whether it's helping with floods in"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "North Carolina or wildfires in"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "California or we talked to an astronaut"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "yesterday who's on the moon who's a"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "soldier. Was Dan Driscoll's statement on"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "Fox today an understatement? Is the"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "secret space force landing on the moon"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "as we state in today's world right now?"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "Or was it a slip of the tongue revealing"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "that there is actually an astronaut, a"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "soldier on the moon? I'm not exactly"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "sure, but as far as I know, Eugene"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "Cernin, December 14th, 1972, was the"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "last astronaut who laid foot on the"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "moon. So, what what's going on here? Get"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "the pro"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "99 proceeded. 3 2 1 ignition on our way."}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "Houston grid."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "Well, this is obviously the facts. As"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "far as we know, Eugene was the last"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "astronaut to be on the moon in 1972."}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "What's going on here? Is this the real"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "deal? So, I want to get your thoughts."}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Did Dan Driscoll, the US Army secretary,"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "uh, let the public know that he's"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "actually speaking to an astronaut on the"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "moon right now? Again, let's just hear"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "it. Again, let's see if he's making any"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "kind of signal to the American people, a"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "slip of the tongue. I don't I'm not"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "sure. Just listen up. as young Americans"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "across the country get to see all of the"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "amazing things that the Army has done,"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "whether it's helping with floods in"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "North Carolina or wildfires in"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "California or we talked to an astronaut"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "yesterday who's on the moon who's a"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "soldier or we talked to an astronaut"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "yesterday who's on the moon who's a"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "soldier. All right, so we heard it once"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "again. It's pretty loud and clear. It"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "wasn't no slip of the tongue in my"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "opinion. Actually, I think he did speak"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "to an astronaut on the moon, a soldier."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "the Secret Space Force program. It's"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "strong and somebody in my opinion is"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "giving us a big cover up right now."}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Again, I want to get your thoughts from"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "around the world. Brent's going to do"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "some special follow-ups with regards to"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "this new statement by the US Secretary."}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "And again, is this a disclosure? Is"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "there soldiers on the moon right now?"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "What's he trying to tell us? All right,"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "Dan, you've got some explaining to do"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "here. This one really takes the cake."}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "So, I don't know. Was it a misspoken"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "word of maybe he meant the ISS space"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "station? I don't know. But we've been"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "stating all along here right here at"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "third phase that we do believe that"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "there is some sort of presence of"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "humankind that has occupied the moon for"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "quite some time. We have evidence of"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "strange lights within craters of the"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "moon and all basically hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "astronomers out there are capturing"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "things that body up there our moon and"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "they're seeing something. So if Dan"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "Driscoll maybe he just you know dropped"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "the bomb and he just threw it out there"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "and he just made a mistake. But uh let's"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "hear from Dan himself and let's see if"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "he could clear that up. Across the"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "country get to see all of the amazing"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "things that the army has done whether"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "it's helping with floods in North"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "Carolina or wildfires in California or"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "we talked to an astronaut yesterday"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "who's on the moon who's a soldier or we"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "talked to an astronaut yesterday who's"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "on the moon who's a soldier. All right."}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "Interesting thought process there Brent."}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "Obviously, uh, Dan Driscoll, US"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "Secretary of the Army, stated something,"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "and I'm kind of confused why the"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "moderator, the host of the Fox program,"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "didn't do a follow-up with that question"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "or with that statement. I sure would"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "have. And we're going to reach out to"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Dan Driscoll and see if we could get a"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "response in his statements. And again,"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "why didn't Fox follow up? I have no"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "idea. I sure would have. Now, Brent's"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "got some new UFO videos just into third"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "phase of moon. Brent, what do you got?"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "The hell"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "you see a stream? No."}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "That is strange."}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "That is so strange."}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "That is really weird. There's like"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "no strings or anything. It's just"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "floating. I don't know what the It's a"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "perfect circle."}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "All right. This is a really good"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "capture. We're looking at something"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "incredible. The bogosphere is making its"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "rounds in Colombia, but this was"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "captured right here in America. And I I"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "this is coming in from the archives. But"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "look at this thing just floating off in"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "the neighborhood. And this guy gets a"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "really good shot at it. And the best"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "part is this thing's not moving. It"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "seems to be just hovering there over the"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "fields and this little neighborhood. And"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "he really gets a pretty good close up on"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "this thing, which I like. I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "actually enhance it and get a little"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "better look at this thing. And yeah,"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "that's no moon. That's not the sun. What"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "we're looking at is uh something"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "strange. Now, more videos that just"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "dropped. Somebody sent this to us and"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "they want our opinion. Is this real?"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "Well, we're looking at two military jets"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "escorting what appears to be a TR3B."}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "Whoa, look at this thing. It's right"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "basically they're they're adjacent to"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "it. So close they're almost touching it"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "from wing to wing. If this is legitimate"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "footage, this is awesome. But I don't"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "know. Do you see a little wobble on that"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "TR3B? Has it been inserted into the shot"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "itself?"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "Yeah, you know, everything looks pretty"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "cool. It the even the color matches from"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "plane to plane and the object, the the"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "triangular craft pretty amazing. But"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "now, let's get to Bigfoot. This is a"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "story that uh we're just going to drop"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "it the free right here at Thirdphase"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "Moon. And we just want to get your"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "opinion on what do you think Luke Walton"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "and his friends have encountered in"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "Xolo, Arizona. All right, watch this"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "documentary. Appreciate it. We'll see"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "you at the end of it."}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "has inspired countless legends,"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "sightings, and scientific inquiries."}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "From the ancient folklore of Native"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "American tribes to the modern-day"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "expeditions of cryptozoolologists, the"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "mystery of Bigfoot has endured. Whether"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "it's the footprints, the hair samples,"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "or the eyewitness accounts, the evidence"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "for Bigfoot's existence is often"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "contested and debated."}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "But one thing is certain, the allure of"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "this enigmatic creature continues to"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "fascinate and intrigue us, sparking"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "endless speculation and exploration and"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "exploration into the unknown depths of"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "our natural world."}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "Eyewitness accounts come forward to"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "share their scary experiences with the"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "elusive Bigfoot. In this documentary,"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "eyewitnesses reveal terrifying Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "encounters. In this chilling"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "documentary,"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "brave individuals come forward to"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "recount their harrowing encounters with"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "the legendary Bigfoot. From"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "heartpounding chases through dense"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "forests to spine tingling sightings in"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "the dead of night, these firstirhand"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "accounts offer a glimpse into the"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "terrifying reality of encountering the"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "elusive creature. hear their stories of"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "survival, fear, and the lasting impact"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "of these extraordinary experiences."}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "Me and my friend Michelle had been out"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "looking for Sasquatch. We had stayed at"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "her family cabin and um we're searching"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "the woods in in the area. We thought"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "that might be a place to find one."}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "We were specifically up there to look"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "for Bigfoots because he and his mom had"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "seen one several weeks before. We had"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "just about given up and um we were on"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "our way out when I was following her."}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "She was ahead of me in her car. I knew"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "the likelihood of someone who seen"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "something already. Generally, the"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "likelihood that they'll see it again"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "increases. And so I wanted to be there"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "for it."}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "and she pulls over. I I immediately pull"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "over too cuz I knew she must have seen"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "something. It was on the left side of"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "the road. It was the denser side of the"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "road. My brights were on. It hit it to"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "about its chin. It It was massive. It"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "was like a furry giant. It had lighter"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "fur, reddish fur, short. It was facing"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "the road and so it dropped its big"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "hands. It turned and it it did that walk"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "that everyone says, that Bigfoot walk,"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "and it filled up this a huge section of"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "the forest. I see her jump out. I jump"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "out. I ask her what she saw, and she"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "describes"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "what she saw on the left side of the"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "road there. Very large, tall, hair"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "covered creature. I could even see its"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "big dome head, no neck, just like they"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "say. Anyways, I pulled over right away."}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "I was in the middle of the road and I'm"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "flagging down Luke and I'm just jumping"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "up and down like and I just couldn't"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "even bring myself to say I that was a"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "Bigfoot. She saw it step off the side of"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "the road and go up go up the hillside"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "there."}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "I had my big light with me, a flood"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "light. Um, and we proceeded to head up"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "the mountain side looking for it. But"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "she was she was extremely excited. I was"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "just jumping up and down. I was so"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "excited because I I just believed that"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "they existed and I I got to see one. And"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "so, as big as it was, I probably should"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "have been afraid, but it was so surreal"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "that it it didn't seem real. I was very"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "intrigued and I was hoping to see"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "something, but unfortunately, I was just"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "a split second too late. So, we went"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "back and there was this stump and I left"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "some Skittles there on the stump because"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "I had them in my pocket cuz I was"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "munching on them. Left the Skittles and"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "then proceeded to call everyone I knew"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "on the way home and told them that I saw"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "a Bigfoot."}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "I was driving this U-Haul. We had my"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "buddy's motorcycle in the back and"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "our welders,"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "gas tanks, I mean, acetylene tanks,"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "torches, all sorts of things strapped"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "down that you wouldn't want to, you"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "know, get in an accident or anything."}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "Uh, all of a sudden I slam on my brakes"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "and there's this"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "really indescribable creature."}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "The way it looked at us, it it looked at"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "us like we knew we were going to be"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "afraid to see it. Like it put fear in"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "our eyes."}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "Um, we"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "we were both scared out of our minds."}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "What I saw was this"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "black figure. It looked like a black"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "horse from the side when it was getting"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "ready to leap into the road. And then"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "once I slammed on the brakes and saw it"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "in the headlights,"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "it it had this black"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "very"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "very pretty fur like a horse on the hind"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "legs and but it was standing and it had"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "this mangy"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "hair and this very rabid look, mangy"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "teeth and it it wasn't n't a creature"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "I've ever seen before. Ever. It was"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "scary. Uh almost demonic."}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "We quickly got out of there. I I was"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "kind of in shock. It took me a while to"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "like gather what I just saw. I had joked"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "around with my buddy. I was like, \"Just"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "give me the gun. I'm going to go back"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "after this thing.\" But we we were both"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "too scared. and we both wanted to pull"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "over and kind of gather our thoughts and"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "stuff, but we we drove for a little"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "while and we reached this creek and it"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "was called Devil's Creek"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "and it it was kind of weird that we had"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "stopped there, but we had stopped there"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "to,"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "you know, kind of just gather our"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "thoughts and tell one another what we"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "both saw. And it was it was definitely"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "scary. Um"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "yeah, if that's Bigfoot, I don't want to"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "see Bigfoot again. That's for sure. Um"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "and I'm not going after it."}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "There's something out there."}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "And they're really good at they're"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "really I mean they were the original"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "stealth machines if you want to call"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "them that because they blend in so"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "perfectly with the environment. So are"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "they real? Hey and I would have to say"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "yes. And people well we haven't found"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "any skeletons. Well bears die in the in"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "the u forest."}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "You don't you don't stumble across any"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "bear carcasses around. I mean, mother"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "nature recycles everything. If you know,"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "if Sasquatch were to die, and we don't"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "know, you know, do they bury their own?"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "Do they cremate their own? Do they"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "dismantle them? Do they have them for"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "dinner? We don't know that. But one of"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "these days, it's going to be like Harry"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "in the Henderson. Some guy's going to be"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "with his family driving down some dirt"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "road in Pacific Northwest or even in the"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "upper, you know, the upper peninsula of"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "Michigan, anywhere where it's forested"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "and they may run into they may they may"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "hit one in their car just like in just"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "like in the movie, you know, Harry and"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "the Hendersons and it will be that time"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "that you know that the world said, \"Hey,"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "maybe maybe they are real. Maybe we have"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "something here.\" The other thing there's"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "been a number of people have submitted"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "hair samples to various labs and they've"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "you know I've never heard any re you"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "know reports or responses from those"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "labs of determining what is the origin"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "of this hair hair. Is it is it a man? Is"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "it a humanoid? Is it a horse? Is it a"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "bear? Cuz they can tell an awful lot by"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "hair follicles and they should be able"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "to determine what it is. So it's like"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "the abominable snowman. They've been"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "talking about it forever, for centuries."}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "They've been, you know, reports of of"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "these types of creatures. You go out"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "right now and there's area there's areas"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "here in Tucson in Puma County that if"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "you walk through that you'd be the first"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "human to do that."}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "Bigfoot researcher Doc Skinner shares"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "groundbreaking footage allegedly"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "capturing a Bigfoot in its natural"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "habitat. The grainy but compelling video"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "shot deep in the Pacific Northwest has"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "sparked intense debate among scientists,"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "skeptics, and believers alike as the"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "footage goes viral. This this video"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "right here says three impressive uh"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "Bigfoot videos. And the second and third"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "one is what I wanted you to see. The"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "first one here, it it looks like kind of"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "like the the Patterson video, but uh not"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "in an open field. It's along a tree"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "line."}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "The second one here is in Mississippi"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "where he's the Bigfoot is scourging"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "inside a tree trunk in the swamp."}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "We just watched the video. What do you"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "see here, Doc? Well, it's it's a open"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "field that looks like it may be around"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "winter, maybe springtime. A lot of dead"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "trees around. So, you see this big long"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "tree ridge along this open area. And"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "here's this creature walking along the"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "tree line, and he's just doing it very"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "nonchalantly."}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "Well, as you're watching this, one thing"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "I I like about this video, unlike"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "others, is that they're always short."}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "It's like they see Sasquatch and then"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "it's over. This guy, I I think he was"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "hunting, so he might have been in"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "camouflage and and in stealth mode. Um,"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "but this creature just goes about his"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "day. And it's a compelling video."}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "So, are people afraid out here? Not"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "necessarily. Um, we have tribes. We're"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "surrounded by multiple tribes here, and"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "it's part of their culture, so it's it's"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "kind of accepted. Um,"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "we we have Bigfoot people up here, but"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "uh you don't really hear as much about"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "it as you would in other places, but uh"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "people people have that feeling. He's"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "around. Well, this was supposedly uh"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "shot in Mississippi by a hunter, and he"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "was out in the swamp area, and he found"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "what he says is Sasquatch."}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "Uh digging inside one of the trunks in"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "the swamp for bugs and and whatever to"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "eat."}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "That's just not something you normally"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "see in a Bigfoot video. So, that the"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "fact that this was captured and it was"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "it was a while back, but it is making"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "its rounds again. Um,"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "I mean, you could if you zoom in, you"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "can see a full body that almost looks"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "apeike."}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "This hunter, like the other one, is"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "trying to be stealthy and he stays on it"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "for a while. So that's like I said, one"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "of the bad thing about these videos."}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "They're always too short. So it's"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "appreciative when they can stick around"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "a little longer."}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "Intrigued by the legendary Bigfoot, a"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "husband and wife embarked on a creative"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "journey. Armed with eyewitness accounts,"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "sketches, and a passion for"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "storytelling, they brought the elusive"}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "creature to life through their art."}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "Their depiction, a towering figure"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "cloaked in moss and shadow, captured the"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "essence of the creature's mystique."}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "Every detail, from the piercing eyes to"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "the massive footprints, was meticulously"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "crafted based on firsthand descriptions."}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "The result was not just a"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "representation, but a testament to the"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "enduring fascination with the unknown."}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "As their artwork took shape, so did"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "their own belief in the possibility of"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "the extraordinary."}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "The tires, the tire thing is uh we've"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "seen some videos on tire art on online"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "and uh it was really interesting because"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "we're artists. We did a lot of art stuff"}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "and I said, \"Well, let's go big. Let's"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "go bigger than they have.\" So, we did."}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "We thought a big foot because we're in"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "the White Mountains."}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "And that's what happened. And we did it"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "in three weeks. He came. That's what he"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "is. It's kind of tricky getting the tool"}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "to cut him though. Why? How? Well,"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "because you can't get anything to cut"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "that rubber, you know. But we had some"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "trial and error. Yeah. We went to uh we"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "ended up getting a oscillating tool that"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "just vibrates and it ended up cutting"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "like butter. We had our own blade."}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "Rubber's not easy to cut and especially"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "cuz I want it to make to look like hair"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "and so you can't just cut any tire"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "either."}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "So, we figured out to cut the best ones"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "to use was the um golf cart tires and"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "that's what that he's made out of pretty"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "much."}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "So, there's accounts in in this area"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "that people have spotted Bigfoot. That's"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "where these prints that I showed you"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "earlier. Right. So, was this like based"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "on actual accounts of people that you've"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "uh spoken to when you devote? Yes. Yes."}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "We we wanted to come up with something"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "that was"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "I don't know the word you mind-blowing."}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "Well, because we've had sightings of"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "Bigfoot up here, especially on the"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "Apache reservation, and so it was"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "fitting. It fit it fit the uh narrative"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "up here on the White Mountains for art."}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "Anyways, that's what we did. That's why"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "we did Bigfoot. We could have done"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "numerous other things, but Bigfoot was"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "the one. Well, we just want to sell him."}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "I mean, he's actually a landmark here in"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "Xolo. The Chamber of Commerce has him up"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "as a landmark. I think we might get aged"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "or toilet papered or something like that"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "if we sell them. But yeah, you know,"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "we're ready. We're ready to deal with"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "that because um we're ready to get move"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "on to something else. Yeah. Something a"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "bit different. Yeah. What's your next"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "project? Uh, I don't know. Something"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "big. Bigger. Bigger. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "Maybe a silverback gorilla. Yeah. Maybe"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "over top of the treetops."}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "I don't know. Yeah. When you walk up to"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "this, it's it's incredible the size of"}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "this. And as people state that this is"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "the actual size of Bigfoot, maybe this"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "is the adult size. But man, look at this"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "thing. Yeah, he's he's big. I would hope"}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "that uh I wouldn't I would hope that"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "he's not this big, you know, because he"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "is big."}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "To kill or capture. This"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "thoughtprovoking documentary explores"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "the ethical implications of hunting"}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "Bigfoot, examining whether lethal force"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "is justified or if capture should be the"}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "primary goal."}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "The existence of this elusive creature"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "has captured the imagination of many,"}, {"end": "00:26:05", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "but the question of how to interact with"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "it. Should it be found remains a hotly"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:05", "text": "debated topic. Proponents of lethal"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "force argue that it is necessary for"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "self-defense and to protect the public"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "from potential harm."}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "They contend that Bigfoot may pose a"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "threat to humans and that capturing it"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "alive is impractical or dangerous."}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "On the other hand, opponents of Lethal"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "Force emphasize the importance of"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "preserving wildlife and the potential"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "scientific value of a live specimen."}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "They argue that killing Bigfoot would be"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "a loss for humanity and could have"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "unforeseen consequences for the"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "ecosystem."}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "It raises questions about the moral"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "responsibility of hunters to treat all"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "beings with respect and to avoid causing"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "unnecessary suffering. Ultimately,"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "Bigfoot to kill or capture offers a"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "nuanced examination of a complex issue,"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "inviting viewers to consider the ethical"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "implications of hunting this mysterious"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "creature and to form their own"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "conclusions about the appropriate course"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "of action. Uh, I 100% believe it should"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "be legal to kill Bigfoot."}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "Uh, if what I saw is Bigfoot, what I saw"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "was"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "rabid, it looked angry,"}, {"end": "00:27:35", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "it looked mangy,"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "it was scary, it was large, it could"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:35", "text": "easily"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "rip a man apart, and it had that"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "demeanor about it. Uh, I would I would"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "have shot that and I think anyone in"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "their right mind would have killed that"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "thing. I wanted to shoot it, but it was"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "after I was scared and I we didn't have"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "the gun in the cab. It was in the U-Haul"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "in the back of the U-Haul with the other"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "stuff. So, there was no, you know, way"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "to stop, get out, open up the U-Haul,"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "and shoot this thing. And if we had"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "those guns inside the U-Haul, I would"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "have definitely shot it. It scared the"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "out of me."}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "Should"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:28:45", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "it be legal or illegal to shoot a"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "Sasquatch?"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "If it's a humanoid, I mean, it would be"}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "like shooting someone's brother. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "my my brother's we called his nickname"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:53", "text": "was Squatch."}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "uh 65 size 17 triple E shoe. So he"}, {"end": "00:29:06", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "really fit the bill,"}, {"end": "00:29:09", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "but I think it should be illegal to uh"}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:06", "text": "to do that. It's we don't"}, {"end": "00:29:15", "start": "00:29:09", "text": "we don't know what the ramifications"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:11", "text": "would be if and we don't know how they"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:15", "text": "communicate, but they do communicate."}, {"end": "00:29:24", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "It could be through ESP or some type of"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "of"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:24", "text": "brain, you know, braintobrain"}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "communications. Animals do that. And"}, {"end": "00:29:32", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "Scarlet knows when something's not a"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:30", "text": "when something's a miss. That's my"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:32", "text": "German Shepherd."}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "So to to to"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "capture one, yes. uh to kill it and and"}, {"end": "00:29:46", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "dissect it."}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "That would that would be almost like"}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:46", "text": "getting a prehuman"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "and killing them and and trying to"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "figure out to make you know to see what"}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "makes them tick. I think it's unethical."}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "I don't think uh I wouldn't approve of"}, {"end": "00:30:03", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "it, but that's me."}, {"end": "00:30:06", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "And there are people up there out out"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:03", "text": "there in in in the real world who really"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:06", "text": "don't give a rip about what uh you know"}, {"end": "00:30:15", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "what they do to a a species of creature."}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "I just want to get the facts. I want to"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:15", "text": "have I want to have his head in my uh in"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "my study along with the buffalo and"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "bunch of other you know heads I have of"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "gee I'm going to go out and kill"}, {"end": "00:30:32", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "something. How fun is that? Um I used to"}, {"end": "00:30:35", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "be a hunter. I'm not anymore."}, {"end": "00:30:39", "start": "00:30:32", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:35", "text": "and my my my personal feeling is they"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:39", "text": "should be protected."}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "I didn't see its face. To me, it looked"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "like a gorilla, like the Hulk gorilla."}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "That one did. But I've seen other ones"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "in the videos that I've taken. I have"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "pictures of them. They look like"}, {"end": "00:30:58", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "shadows. They look like monkeys. They"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "look like gorillas. They look like"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:30:58", "text": "orangutans. They look like sloths. Um,"}, {"end": "00:31:08", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "there's all different kinds. Um,"}, {"end": "00:31:11", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "but"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:08", "text": "I I don't I don't know how human I"}, {"end": "00:31:15", "start": "00:31:11", "text": "haven't"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "I don't know what the one I saw. I never"}, {"end": "00:31:19", "start": "00:31:15", "text": "saw its face, so I don't know how human"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "it would be, but it was it would be like"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:19", "text": "a hunter's wet dream. It was so massive."}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "Um, but I don't think it would have hurt"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "it"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "one shot. I don't know."}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "I think it would make it angry."}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "Doesn't stop right here at Thirdphase"}, {"end": "00:31:38", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "Moon. The UFOs from around the world,"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "it's 24/7. People have their eyes on the"}, {"end": "00:31:42", "start": "00:31:38", "text": "skies. And if you've captured anything"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "amazing, submit it to us right here at"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:42", "text": "Thirdphase. My email is in the"}, {"end": "00:31:48", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "description below. Everybody, keep your"}, {"end": "00:31:52", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "eyes on the skies. Blake Cousins. 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[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Well, President Trump got pissed. Um, on"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "Monday, he victory lapped a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "agreement between Israel and Iran. Here"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "was his truth social. We have completed"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "our very successful attack on three"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "nuclear sites in Iran. Um, including"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "Fordo, Natans, Eshvahan. All planes now"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "outside of Iran, Iran airspace. A full"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "payload of bombs was dropped and you"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "know the rest. And then on Tuesday,"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "Israel defied him and continued to fire"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "against Iran. Anyway, and then Trump"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "posted this. Israel, do not drop those"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "bombs. If you do, it is a major"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "violation. Bring your pilots home now."}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "Donald Trump, president of the United"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "States. They got no shalom. Remember"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "when he was warning Hamas with them"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "shalom? They did not even get those"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "nicities this time. It was, \"We're"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "talking to you.\" Now, the president"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "spoke on his way to the NATO summit,"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "reflecting what a lot of us have felt"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "and even dropping this fbomb. We've"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "warned you about it. The president is"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "clearly pissed. Watch."}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "Violated the peace agreement and the"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "peaceide agreement. Do you believe that"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "Iran is still committed to peace? Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "I do. They violated, but Israel violated"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "it, too. Are you questioning if Israel"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "is committed? Israel, as soon as we made"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "the deal, they came out and they dropped"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "a load of bombs the likes of which I've"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "never seen before. The biggest load that"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel."}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "You know, when when I say, \"Okay, now"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "you have 12 hours. You don't go out in"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "the first hour and just drop everything"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "you have on them. So, I'm not happy with"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "them. I'm not happy with Iran either."}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "But I'm really unhappy if Israel is"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "going out this morning because the one"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "rocket that didn't land that was shot"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "not happy about that."}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "You know what we have? We basically have"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "two countries that have been fighting so"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "long and so hard that they don't know"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "what the they're doing. Do you"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "understand that?"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "That's pretty clear terms. I understand,"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "sir. It's a very clear a very clear"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "message. And then later on the airplane,"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "he was asked if he wants regime change"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "in Iran. And he returned to the"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "diplomacy that we'd be uh Yeah. And does"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "he want regime change after all? Listen."}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "Do you want to see regime change in"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "Iran? No. If there was, there was. But"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "no, I don't want I'd like to see"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "everything calm down as quickly as"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "possible. Uh regime change takes chaos"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "and ideally we don't want to see so much"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "chaos. So we'll see how it does. You"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "know, the Iranians are very good"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "traders, very good business people, and"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "they got a lot of oil. They they should"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "be fine. They they should be able to"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "rebuild and do a good job. They're never"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "going to have nuclear, but other than"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "that, they should do a great job."}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "All right, we want to bring them He's"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "returning to diplomacy that we saw when"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "the peace talks began. So, we're going"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "to bring in uh journalist Max Blumenthal"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "now from the Grey Zone. Uh we want to"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "ask him his thoughts on this, but first"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "of all, Max, given Israel's history with"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "violating ceasefires, why is this a"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "surprise? Were we fools to trust that"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "this would hold in the first place?"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Well, Trump is using invective and"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "threats without any concrete material"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "backing to try to make this ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "hold because because of that history."}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "And Israel's military chief of staff, Al"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "Zamir, said this war will not end. This"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "was just a phase. So, Israel's openly"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "saying that it will violate this"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "ceasefire that Trump claims will last"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "forever. Trump really see saw his"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "diplomacy"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "to the extent that it was diplomatic at"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "all as a master stroke that was going to"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "lead to him being granted the Nobel"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "Prize for which he was nominated by"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "Pakistan just about 24 hours before he"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "initiated the pornthemed operation"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "midnight hammer with like 27 planes and"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "uh you know spending 60% of the US stock"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "of MOPs, 30,000 lb bombs to supposedly"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "eliminate the Fordo facility. And this"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "was all choreographed through Qatar with"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "uh plan or expectation that Iran would"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "um stage some symbolic strikes on the"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "Alua air base and a few other US bases"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "that had already been evacuated. And"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "then everybody would get to claim a win"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "at the precise time that Trump wanted"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "it. And then it turned out that Israel"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "just arranged for a gigantic munitions"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "dump over uh over Thran"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "after"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "Trump's ceasefire had expired which"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "created uh another four waves of or"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "provoked four waves of Iranian ballistic"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "missiles uh including one that had"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "struck a severe blow in the city of"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "Beeva and now the stage is set for"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "another phase. So Trump"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "For the first time, I think we saw a US"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "president in Trump really let out his"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "fury and anger against Israel. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "every prime min president who's dealt"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "with Prime Minister Netanyahu has hated"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "him. Bill Clinton famously in 1996"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "stormed out of a meeting with Netanyahu"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "and said, \"Who's the superpower"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "here?\" But that was private. This is"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "public. And what Trump has done is he"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "has revealed how much daylight exists"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "between Tel Aviv and Washington. 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So visit"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "bunker.life/redacted"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "and use the code redacted for 25% off"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "your family plan. you know, and then we"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "we have a historical record of Israel"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "violating these ceasefire agreements"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "since October 7th. Um, even before that"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "and even before that, I mean, over 3,000"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "ceasefire violated over 3,000 ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "terms since October 7th across Gaza and"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Lebanon. So, what makes us think, you"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "know, are they delusional to think that"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "this is going to hold, that this"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "ceasefire will will be stamped in stone"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "and we're going to have a prosperous"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Middle East? Specifically, can we also"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "ask this question? How will President"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "Trump stand in contrast to Biden?"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "Because Biden said, \"Do not go into"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "Lebanon.\" And they were like, \"That's"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "nice.\" And did it anyway. Here's a"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "ceasefire with Lebanon. That's nice. 20"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "2700 violations. President Biden did"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "nothing. So now at least we have Trump"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "showing frustration, but will there be"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "more than that because Biden did"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "nothing?"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "Well, to try to answer both questions,"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "Trump has more power than Biden does to"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "take concrete action against Israel to"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "enforce a ceasefire by suspending"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "weapons shipments, for example,"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "something neither of them have have"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "done. Because Donald Trump has a cult"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "following. He's sort of a cult leader"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "and his base will mostly go wherever he"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "wants. Although we've seen some"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "defections from top Trump influencers"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "and Republicans under 45. Only 20% of"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Republicans under 45 supported Trump's"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "strike on Iran enthusiastically"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "according to a new CNN poll. So Trump"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "has the the he has the credibility among"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "his base to go the other way and to"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "really seriously pressure Israel. I"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "don't know if he will. I don't think he"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "will, but he has it. Israel suffered a"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "serious political and psychological blow"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "from this war. Yet neither side yet"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "Israel maintained the military upper"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "hand. And neither side, Iran or Israel,"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "established military deterrence. And so"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "what we're going to see in the weeks and"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "months ahead is more Israeli"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "assassination attempts, more sabotage"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "attacks like the kind we saw in April on"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "the Bandar Abbas port in southern Iran"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "and more continuous warfare in the gray"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "zone which may provoke another phase of"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "allout war. This is not a ceasefire. It"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "is an interregnum and Iran has to"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "restore or and improve its air defenses"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "which proved to be its biggest weakness."}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "And we don't know what happened with the"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "60%en enriched uranium stockpile that"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "was supposedly spirited out of the Fordo"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "facility in the days before the US"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "strike. But if Iran manages to take that"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "to a safe place and begin enrichment"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "again, then Israel has seriously failed"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "in its one of its top two objectives."}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "The other major objective here, the"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "major Israeli objective is regime change"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "and Israel completely failed there. Iran"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "demonstrated the resiliency of its"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "system and uh what Israel's attacks"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "targeting civilians did was produce a"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "rally around the flag effect in Iran"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "which we will see uh intensify in the"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "coming days as the holiday of Muharam or"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "the observance of Muharam begins. So"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "mask let me ask you this. I mean, you"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "saw Zionist over the past 24 hours"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "furious, really furious that Trump, I"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "think Mark Lean uh said that he was"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "furious. He hated the word ceasefire,"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "that you would never have a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "with Hitler. That's what he said. Um so"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "it's always been about regime change."}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "And so they're never going to be happy"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "unless the regime is ousted. So this"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "this cease I don't see how this the"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "ceasefire holds. I don't see how any we"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "they just go back to their corners and"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "call it a night. I think there are two"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "camps in the Israeli establishment. One"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "is sort of the leudnik fanatical"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "messianist camp that Mark Levvin, the"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "kind of astrourfed AM radio carnival"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "barker who is a never Trumper is giving"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "voice to. And there's another that sees"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "what Trump did as shortening the war uh"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "to Israel's benefit and to Israel's"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "relief. The fanatical camp is has a"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "sense of inviability"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "because of the wars of extermination it"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "carried out in Gaza and the blows it"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "struck against Hezbollah. And they think"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "that that Israel is sort of this"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "invincible lion. They're delusional"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "because Iran managed to seriously"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "puncture the colonial psyche of Israel"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "by physically penetrating Israel's Iron"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Dome, its multi-billion dollar"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "multi-layered air defenses. And this did"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "serious psychological damage to Israel."}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "Did economic damage. I mean, they've"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "they've struck they struck like a major"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "tech park in Beva and hit the Microsoft"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "offices. This is going to cost Israel a"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "lot in foreign direct investment."}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Israel's credit rating is going to be"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "downgraded again. But more importantly,"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "it has harmed the Israeli psyche."}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "Israelis are different from others in"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "the region who are accustomed to the"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "continuous warfare of Israel. They can"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "receive more punishment and demonstrate"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "steadfastness where Israel Israelis are"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "accustomed to this kind of colonial"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "existence and waging one-way wars of"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "extermination. And now Iran has shown"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "that their air defenses can be"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "penetrated and there's nothing beyond"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "it. And Iran can potentially improve on"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "that. So I think Israel also wanted this"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "ceasefire. Uh Israel was suffering and"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "all parties involved, the US, Israel and"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "Iran wanted this for their own reasons"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "and are going to each claim victory for"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "their own reasons. But Israel is the one"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "that will have to in order for its"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "survival initiate a new war."}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "Now, do you think that President Trump"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "may have given the United States an"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "excuse, since we're using the F-word"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "here, to f off? Can we just f off there"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "and let them handle it on their own? I"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "mean, I know that's a bit of a pipe"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "dream, but you said that that Trump has"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "the ability to withdraw weapons and"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "support in a way that Biden never would."}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "We know that because Matthew Miller at"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "the State Department said we were going"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "to do whatever Netanyahu told us to do."}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "Full stop. So, is this too much of a"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "dream that we just f off?"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "Well, you know, I was in Iran just in in"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "May, and I got to tour the aerospace"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "park where Iran's IRGC puts on display"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "their ballistic missiles, their drone"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "program, which was mostly reverse"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "engineered from captured US and Israeli"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "drones, their space program. They have a"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "naent space program, and their air"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "defense program. And what astounded me"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "was this is a country that has been"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "under harsh sanctions since since 1979."}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "Its economy is completely cut off from"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "the outside world and even its regional"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "neighbors refused to provide it with"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "military assistance. Everything there"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "was produced domestically using domestic"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "knowhow, native knowhow. Whereas"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "Israel's weapon systems, including its"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "vaunted iron dome system, its arrow"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "system, relied on the US taxpayer to"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "fund them. And then throughout this war,"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "Israel took for granted that the US"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "would send destroyers to the Red Sea in"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "the Mediterranean to knock down Iranian"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "ballistic missiles. That you, the US and"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "their Jordanian vassels would be taking"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "down Iranian ballistic missiles. And so"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "the US was involved from the beginning"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "directly in this war just in a quote"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "unquote defensive capacity and only got"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "involved offensively after Trump"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "violated the will of the American public"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "and his base in order to strike Iran on"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "behalf of Israel. So, it's obvious that"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "Israel, the so-called Jewish state,"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "cannot survive a second without the"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "protection and funding of whatever"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "gentile authority is in Washington. As"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "soon as, actually, Israel's foreign"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "minister Gideon Sar said this about a"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "month ago. If US weapons shipments are"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "suspended, Israel will collapse and"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "cease to survive. So, that's how tenuous"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "Israel's colonial existence is. whereas"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "Iran has demonstrated it can survive"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "virtually alone and still maintain"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "status as a kind of regional power. So,"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "Israel's in a race against time right"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "now and that's why I think they're going"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "to seek to reinitiate another conflict"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "with Iran."}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "Max Blumenthal, head of the gray zone."}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "Always great to see you, Max. Thank you"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "so much as always. Thanks for having me"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "on. Thanks for your work. Thanks, Max."}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "Appreciate All right, if we could just"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "put up this screen, uh, this Times of"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "Israel, this is how this is being"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "reported in the Israeli press about"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "President Trump's tirade. It's very"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "much, \"Mommy, he yelled at me.\" Not,"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "\"Yes, we violated the ceasefire. We"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "should not have done that. It's we're"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "going to tell the world we got we got"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "scolded.\" Yeah. But no"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "self-reflection there, like maybe we"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "should stop it. Maybe there was a"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "ceasefire in place. Maybe we should not"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "do that, right? Um, so again, if passed"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "his prologue, the ceasefire will not"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "hold uh, no matter how much we want it"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "to. A lot of people in the chat saying,"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "uh, yeah, Max is, yeah, very, very"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "smart. Very, very smart. It's a one of"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "the best intellects on this. And people"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "are wondering, they're like, why why is"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "he anti-Semitic? Uh, Max is Jewish, by"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "the way. Yes. And, uh, a lot of a lot of"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "American Jews don't like being thrown"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "into like this Israel bag, like, oh, you"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "have to somehow support Israel. like"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "they they they can't stand"}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Christians are being hunted down and"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "massacred across Syria. Did you know"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "that? Are you aware of this story?"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "Probably not because the mainstream"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "media won't cover this story for some"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "reason. I don't know why. Um, this is"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "happening around the world, but right"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "now in Syria, it is most acute. Over the"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "weekend, one hour after this church"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "service, look at these little kids"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "carrying up the candles on the staff"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "here. These little kids, one of them"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "carrying the cross. all of these folks"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "here in this church service at St. Elias"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "Church in Damascus. So, this was this"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "was one hour prior to this church being"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "attacked and massacred."}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "30 people killed inside of this church."}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "Dozens injured. Dozens in the first ISIS"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "style bombing since Syria has toppled"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "and been ruled by former ISIS leader"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "Syrian journalist Kavor Almasian. He"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "himself a practicing Christian Orthodox."}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "Um is joining us now to analyze this. Um"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "so Kavor this is not just an isolated"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "incident. I mean, I think I don't know"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "why the mainstream media around the"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "world, they're just ignoring this story,"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "Christians being hunted down, but this"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "isn't just an isolated isolated"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "incident, is it?"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "Thank you very much, Clayton and"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "Natalie, for having me. Uh, at the"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "introduction, you mentioned that the"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "mainstream media doesn't cover this case"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "because for a simple reason, for 14"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "years, they promoted for this outcome."}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "They promoted for a regime change and"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "they promoted for the chaos which was"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "unleashed after the regime change in the"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "country. So they don't want to hold"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "themselves responsibility and they don't"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "want to tell their audience that they"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "have lied to their audience about the"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "nature of the conflict in the country."}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "Now these type of attacks were"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "anticipated since the regime change"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "happened and even before that for 14"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "years the Christians came under attacks"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "targeted attacks by the al-Qaeda forces"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "in the country backed sponsored funded"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "and trained by different regional"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "intelligence apparatuses and also the"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "CIA which played a major role in this"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "and this led into driving uh 90% of the"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "Christians out of Syria. Now in the"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "neighboring countries of Syria such as"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "in Jordan, in Lebanon and in Turkey,"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "Western NOS's established offices there"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "saying that we are here to save them uh"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "the Christians from persecution. So what"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "they do basically they drove the"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "Christians to the neighboring countries"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "and from the neighboring countries they"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "absorb them into some of the western"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "countries such as in Australia and in"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "Canada. But this was some sort of in my"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "opinion a soft ethnic cleansing of the"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "Christians after unleashing this type of"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "brutal war in the country. Now that only"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "10% of um uh only 10% of the Christians"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "left in the country, now we're"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "witnessing another type of targeted"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "attacks against them after they came uh"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "after the Alawites, the Kurds, the Jews."}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "Now they're coming after the Christians."}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "So sending suicide bombers into a"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "church, blowing it up completely,"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "killing the worshippers there. And this"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "act of intimidation of course only aims"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "at driving the rest of the Christians"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "out of Syria because the ideology that"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "Abu Muhammad Golani who is now the self"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "selected president of Syria goes back at"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "least 800 years from now and he believes"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "in the teachings of Iben Tamir and Iben"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Tamir believes that first this al-Qaeda"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "ideology people should purify their own"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "domestic house from the minority Islamic"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "sects and when they are done with them"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "they have to come after the Christians,"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "after the Jews and after other"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "religions. So this is just a logical in"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "my opinion development what is happening"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "in the country after installing a person"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "who personally believes in this and the"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "evidence and the proof of it is when the"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "terrorist attack happened and 30 people"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "uh were killed in inside the church."}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "Golani issued a statement and he said he"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "expresses solidarity with the victims of"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "these attacks and he called the attack a"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "criminal explosion. Now this is"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "different from a previous uh"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "administration in Syria which used to"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "call such attacks terrorist attack. So"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "Golani doesn't even dare to call an"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "attack against the Christian community"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "in the country a terrorist attack"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "because he himself administered and he"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "sponsored these type of attacks in Iraq."}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "He was the one who used to build car"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "bombs and send them into the Shia"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "communities into the Christian"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "neighborhoods and blow them up in in in"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "their neighborhoods. Now that he's the"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "president of the country, he cannot just"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "walk back and say this is a terrorist"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "attack while he did the same thing 20"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "years ago in Iraq in order to start a"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "civil war there. But again, he said that"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "was just a phase, you know, like when I"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "had bangs. Exactly. He reformed. Yes."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "And back in March, we discussed the 900"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "Alawite civilians who were massacred on"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "u under his watch and he released this"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "statement that he announced the"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "formation of a factf finding committee"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "regarding these events. Uh what"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "happened? When I asked you about this,"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "you gave us a guttural laugh. That was"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "your response to it. So is there"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "anything that came of this factf finding"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "other than it's happening? Actually the"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "numbers exceed the 10,000 Alawites who"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "were slaughtered by his regime and he"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "formed a committee saying that he will"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "investigate the case and he gave 3"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "months for the committee to conclude the"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "investigation. After 3 months he"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "extended it another 3 months. So we are"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "now in the fifth month and nothing came"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "out yet. Which means uh when you are the"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "ruler of a country and you're giving"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "time after time after time for militants"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "to commit such atrocities, you're"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "basically tacitly and openly basically"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "you're encouraging them to continue this"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "type of atrocities against the religious"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "and ethnic minorities in the country."}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "Nowadays I receive daily daily messages"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "and phone calls from friends,"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "colleagues, family in Syria. They all"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "desperate. They don't know what to do."}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "Most of the people who are stuck now in"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "the country, they are from the poorer"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "classes in the country. They don't have"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "any means to leave the country and go,"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "let's say, to another place or to"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "relocate or pay a smuggler to come to"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "Europe. And ironically enough, if you"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "remember the the the big refugee crisis"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "in Europe in 2015 and 2016 and back then"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "all European countries opened their"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "doors and now where are the European"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "countries from the Christians of Syria?"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "Why aren't they receiving refugees or"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "give them any protection after now that"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "they are the ones targeted by these"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "terrorist attacks? We don't see any"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "politician in Europe or in the west"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "talking about it. We don't see the"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "mainstream media is talking about it."}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "But I personally urge at least Greece"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "and other countries who have an invested"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "interest in the Greek Orthodox community"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "in the country to at least give them"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "temporary protection in their own"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "countries before the situation gets"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "better. because from the current moment"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "from what I see what is happening in the"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "country that there is an persistent"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "attempt to cleanse the country from the"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "infidels and from those who call them"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "like they have deviated from the rules"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "of God. Therefore, uh the Christians who"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "don't have any militias to protect"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "themselves, they don't have any"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "political power, they don't have a"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "political party and they don't have any"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "regional power on their back, they are"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "left alone in the country. They have no"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "one basically to back them, support them"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "and assist them in the security because"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "trusting Golani in this case is very"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "delusional and it's very dangerous"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "because he's the same guy who is sending"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "cars to the Christian neighborhoods and"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "they put big microphones and big"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "speakers and calling the Christians to"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "convert to to Islam or to their"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "ideology. And after all these incidences"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "happening and provocations against the"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "Christians, now that it ended up with a"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "terrorist attack, now Christians going"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "to the streets and and calling for"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "justice and the protesting against the"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "Golani regime. But be sure that this"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "type of protest will lead to further"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "persecution and persecution of the"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "Christians in Syria because uh Jolani is"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "not a tolerant towards such yes this"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "type of for example protests against"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "Jolani because they say uh we reject"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "this type of terrorism and we reject the"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "foreign fighters. Clayton and Natalie,"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "you know that we have thousands and"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "thousands and thousands of multinational"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "takir terrorists in Syria. And when uh"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "the Syrian regime was asked, what are"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "you going to do about them? They said,"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "yeah, they helped us in the revolution."}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "So, we have to settle them in the"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "country and he wants to give them Syrian"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "citizenship and he has given them senior"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "positions in the Syrian army. So we have"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "people from Chinya, we have people from"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Chingyang, the Wiguers. We have people"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "from Pakistan. And one of these suicide"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "bombers was from Pakistan who blew up"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "himself in a in a Syrian church. And"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "President Trump, he agreed on this plan"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "because otherwise what are they going to"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "do with these thousands of jihadists in"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "Syria if they're going to send them back"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "to their own countries or probably"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "relocate them to other places? These"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "people are very anarctic. They are very"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "terroristic. They're very radical."}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "wherever they go, they could wreck"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "havoc. Therefore, they decided to settle"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "them in Syria, give them Syrian"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "citizenship, and let everyone forget"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "about it. And now these multinational"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "tubers are blowing themselves up among"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "the Christian communities."}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "Take a look at this headline from"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "dw.com."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Attack on Christians, and again, this is"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "just how the mainstream media portrays"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "this. Attack on Christians threatens"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "Syria's post-war cohesion. And I'll read"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "you the by line which says Syria's new"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "president has promised to replace the"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "Assad dictatorship with a"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "multi-religious society where all faiths"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "are represented. Sunday's terror attack"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "in Damascus shows us how much work"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "remains to be done. So the mainstream"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "media is of course spinning at that, you"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "know, Syria's new president has promised"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "to replace the Assad dictatorship with a"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "multi-religious society."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "Who funs who funds this outlet? Who"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "funds this outlet, Clayton? Is the"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "German government. This is not even an"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "independent outlet. They are funded by"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "the foreign ministry of uh of Germany"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "and they tell them exactly how to report"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "about these cases. And the first one of"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "the first European foreign ministers who"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "flew through Damascus trying to shake"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "hands with Golani was the former foreign"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "minister of Germany, Analena Bebok,"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "whose ministry funds this uh this"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "outlet. Now that she's out of power,"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "it's still the same. faces change but"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "similar people come to power and they're"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "still funding this type of mainstream"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "media outlets and they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "create a perception that there's a"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "chance you know let's give him a chance"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "what is he going to do the truth of the"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "matter is they accepted Golani because"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "he said I will not attack Israel I will"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "break the access of resistance I will"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "seal the borders with Hezbollah I will"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "make life easier for Israel in the"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "region and I will normalize ties with"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "them I will condemn Iran and I will"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "condemn Israel. So everybody was excited"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "about him when he came to power. And"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "that's what he's basically doing. He's"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "reorienting the geopolitical posture of"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "Syria, let's say, from pro-Russia, pro"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "Iran, pros into pro- NATO and pro-W"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "position, for example, and accordingly"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "everybody accepted him. If he kills all"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "the Christians in Syria, there is no"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "problem about that. Who is who is"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "shedding crocodile tears now on the"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "Christians in Iraq? 90% of them were"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "also driven out of their country after"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "the 2003 war. And nobody speaks about"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "them now after 20 years. And similar"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "thing will happen to the Syrian"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "Christians in 10 years and 20 years."}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "Everybody will forget about them because"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "other countries will absorb these"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "Christians into their countries and the"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "story is done and the the goal of the"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "regime change war has been materialized."}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "This is the main issue. It is about"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "geopolitics and finances and money and"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "it has nothing to do about human rights."}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "If if Golani is committing atrocities or"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "violating human rights, it's okay. He's"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "he's their ally."}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "Now, so what next? Because in the past"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "we've talked about I mean Syrians were"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "protected under Assad and you and I kind"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "of felt like well if the United States"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "gets out of Syria that was sort of the"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "way of things but now the United States"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "is saying well with Galani we're going"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "to sort of put a lease on it like make"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "it so it was always okay in its inner"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "rears. And so then it seems like that's"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "just going to be the way it is. The"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "United States will keep a small presence"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "there. Galani is going to stay. There's"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "I don't see any"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "what"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "what's going to happen? I don't see any"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "like let's hope for this at all. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "The US Army is finalizing a long-term"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "deal with Golani to stay in the country"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "permanently for a long time. Uh they"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "want to stay in the Eastern Shore of the"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "Euphrates where most of the oil and the"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "gas is because American companies are"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "going to extract this oil, process them,"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "recycle them and sell them. uh of course"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "so it's it's a big profit for them and"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "the American soldiers boots on the"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "ground are going to be protectors"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "basically of these oil fields and their"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "proxies the Kurdish le Syrian democratic"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "forces there because what the Americans"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "want to do is to create spheres of"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "influence in the country on the eastern"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "shore of the Euphrates which is onethird"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "of the country where the American"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "occupation forces are located they going"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "to receive now a legitimacy from the"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "current regime in Damascus so they stay"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "there for the sake of the oil and the"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "gas and the rest of uh the country can"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "screw itself because they don't have"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "much of natural resources. They don't"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "have the food basket. They don't have"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "the carbohydrates. They can just uh"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "continue living under Jolani. And this"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "is where Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "Israel basically they are endorsing this"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Golani rule because he's the one who is"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "going to make the shift. This is a"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "historic shift. Since World War II,"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "since the end of World War II and since"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "the independence of Syria, we have had"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "over probably 13 or 14 different"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "presidents and leaders in the country."}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "And none of them succeeded or managed or"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "wanted to reorient Syria on the side of"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "the transatlantic alliance. And this is"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "what Golani was tasked to do. And that"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "is why they accepted him to come to"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "power. And this is great news for the"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "transatlantic movement in uh alliance in"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "in the Middle East because the uh now"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "that with this conflict between Iran,"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "war between Iran and uh and Israel, they"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "have now an open airspace over Syria,"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "therefore the Israeli forces can fly"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "over the Syrian airspace and bomb Iran"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "on the borders with Iraq. uh before that"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "under Assad he he closed his airspace"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "and since and since 2018 the Israeli"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "fighter jets didn't dare to penetrate"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "the Syrian airspace because of the"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "complicated and sophisticated Syrian"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "airspace but once Golani came to power"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "Israel destroyed all the air defenses of"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "Syria and Golani basically inhabited the"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "militia he doesn't have any army he"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "doesn't have tanks he doesn't have"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "artilleries or air air force or air"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "defenses therefore they have given him"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "Let's say you know how Mahmud Abbas in"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "the West Bank rules. He's he's like he"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "has a militia and he has a police"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "station there. This is how he's ruling"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "over the neck of the Syrians basically"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "who are unarmed and they are they don't"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "have any protection from anyone. That's"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "why the future is very very very dire."}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "And we're speaking about Syria. We're"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "speaking about Palestine. Those places"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "are the birthplace of Jesus Christ. And"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "Jesus Christ walked through the streets"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "of this neighborhood. And uh therefore"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "it has a a very big historical and"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "cultural and religious significance."}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "Something that if it's wiped out from"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "Syria, it could also lead into another"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "domino effect to other regions to"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "countries that claim their leaders claim"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "that they are Christians. So if you're a"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "Christian and if you care about the"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "future of Christianity, you should not"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "only just uh make noise about the"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "victims. No, we have to lobby and"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "pressure against this type of"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "catastrophic policies coming from"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "whether Washington or Tel Aviv. Regime"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "change, destruction, chaos, and then"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "create a vacuum for these ISIS and"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "al-Qaeda types to take over just like"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "they did in Iraq. And now they wanted to"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "copy it in Iran. But in Iran, they say,"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "\"No, no, it's different in Iran. This"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "time is different in Iran. It's not"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "going to be like in Syria or in in"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "Iraq.\" But I would say it would be worse"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "because 92 million people live in Iran"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "in in Iran and there are multiple"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "different ethnic and religious groups in"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "Iran. So if you create a power vacuum"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "and if there is a mistrust or there is a"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "security event in the country, everybody"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "will start protecting itself, carrying"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "arms, fighting against each other. So,"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "how many refugees could create this out"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "of 92 million people to all these um"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "influencers in the United States who say"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "we don't want refugees, we don't want"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "migrants, but every time they are the"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "drums of war, they join it and they want"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "to attack another country and they"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "create the same problems that they say"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "that they want they don't want to to"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "face or address in their own countries."}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "That's ridiculous in my opinion. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "it's shocking when we go in and"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "destabilize a country like Somalia and"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "then suddenly we wind up with all kinds"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "of Somalian refugees or Iraq then we"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "have all sorts of Iraqi refu. It's"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "amazing how that happens and they pour"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "into our country. Uh you Christians are"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "under attack. I saw a study today one"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "out of every seven um basically being"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "persecuted around the world right now"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "and the story for whatever reason just"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "not getting any coverage in the"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "mainstream media. So you have to come to"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "alternative media like what Kavor does"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "at Syriana Analysis or what we do here"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "at Redacted. So, Kavor, thank you so"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "much for your courage. Um, thank you for"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "your brilliance. One of the few, I mean,"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "really one of the great Syrian voices"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "that we can turn to to get the truth"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "about this. Thank you, Kavor. Great to"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "see you as always. Thank you so much."}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "And thank you so much for shedding light"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "on this. You were one of the very few"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "journalists with big platforms who"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "continuously speaking about Syria. It's"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "very important in my opinion for the"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "journalists to speak about such cases."}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "Well, we we we believe so. Thank you so"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "much, Kavor. Absolutely. Thank you."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Back in 2022, President Donald Trump um"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "at the time issued an endorsement of"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie. Here it was."}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie is a"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "conservative warrior for Kucky's fourth"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "congressional district. An MIT graduate"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "and a first rate defender of the"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "Constitution. Thomas fights hard to"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "protect your liberties, especially the"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "First and Second Amendments, which are"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "under siege by the radical left. strong"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "on the border and our military and"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "veterans. Thomas Massie has my complete"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "and total endorsement. Well, then this"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "weekend this happened. President Donald"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "Trump posting this spanking"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "this is like a book. Yeah. That he wrote"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "here. Holy smokes. I'll just read the"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "first few sentences. Congressman Thomas"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "Massie of Kentucky is not MAGA. Even"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "though he likes to say he is. Actually,"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "Maggot doesn't want him, doesn't know"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "him, and doesn't respect him. He's a"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "negative force who almost always votes"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "no, no matter how good something may be."}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie voted today to"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "join Redacted. See, he votes yes"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "sometimes on things that he cares about."}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "And he joins us now. Congressman, good"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "to see you. Oh, it's good to see you,"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "Clayton. Um, listen, I I retweeted"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "Trump's uh diet tribe there and I said,"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "you know, the president has declared so"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "much war on me today that I think he"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "needs an act of Congress for this,"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "right? The Babylon B take on it was that"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "Trump declared that you are close to"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "having a nuclear weapon. I know you're a"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "homesteader. How did you enrich all that"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "in uranium while you're tending to your"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "fruit trees? Yeah, you know, um if I had"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "uranium on my farm, I would probably"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "figure out a way to enrich it and have"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "some kind of fusion reactor, not vision"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "reactor, and we would be making free"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "energy. But as it were, I have to have"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "solar panels and heat with wood."}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "I you know, I was I was sitting there I"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "was sitting there with uh with Tucker"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "Carlson the other day and when this"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "attack kind of happened and I I I you"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "know, became enraged about it. this idea"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "that you're you're unAmerican, you're"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "unpatriotic,"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "uh that you're not MAGA, you're not make"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "America great again. I just I couldn't"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "wrap my head around it given the fact"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "that he's endorsed you calling exactly"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "that. So, I mean, I know we're joking"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "about it, but at the heart of it, it's"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "just it's is it is it is it true? You're"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "you're unamerican, you're unpatriotic."}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "No, I think I'm the first America first"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "congressman there is, the original one."}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "Look, I'm against the next war already."}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "I don't want an a war in Eastern Europe."}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "I don't want a war in the Middle East."}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "And that's part of what we all signed up"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "for when we voted for Trump. I endorsed"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "President Trump uh before the election"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "be even after campaigning for Ronda"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Santis because I didn't want another war"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "and I thought President Trump wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "get us into another war. It's it's hard"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "to say what will happen here in the"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "Middle East. you know, that the uh three"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "bombing sites to end Iran's nuclear"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "aspirations might be the 2025 version of"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "two weeks to slow the spread. You know,"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "we were going to have 14 weeks to slow"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "the spread. We had a 12-day war. Um"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "those are eerily the same number of"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "days. I hope it's true this time that"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "it's it ends after 12 days. But when it"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "comes to MAGA, u I think at its base,"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "it's putting America first. Let's take"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "care of our own infrastructure, our"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "veterans. Let's protect our own borders."}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "Um let's do the things that we need to"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "create jobs and a prosperous economy"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "here at home before we go looking"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "overseas for dragons to slay. And so I I"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "think it may be the president who's"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "strayed from that message and not me in"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "this instance. Also, he's a little bit"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "upset, I think, about the uh my no vote"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "on the big beautiful bill. But again,"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "that's where I promised that I wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "increase our debt, that we would find"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "responsible ways to fund the government."}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "You know, I've joked that I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "um reprogram my debt ticker here that I"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "wear all the time to be the number of"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "milliseconds since the president has"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "tweeted about me. And after I made that"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "joke, it wasn't 12 hours later he"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "tweeted about me again. And u you know,"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "I think the reason he's concerned about"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "me is uh twofold. Number one, I am"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "speaking the truth. I am telling you"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "what's in the big beautiful bill that"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "other people won't tell you. I am"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "telling you what this engagement in Iran"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "could lead to. But number two, I'm the"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "horse that's not in the barn. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "controlled. I'm not controlled by the"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Republican party. I'm not controlled by"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "any president. I never have been. I work"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "for 750,000 people in Northern Kentucky."}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "And I think I'm the horse that's getting"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "flogged so that all the other horses"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "will stay in the barn. And when I walked"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "on the floor of the house today to vote,"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "everybody was like looking at me"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "surprised that I still had some hide on"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "my back uh after the flogging. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "like, \"No, guys, hop on in. The water's"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "fine.\""}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "So So will this big, beautiful bill"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "pass? Do you think it's going to pass in"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "in any kind of its current state at all?"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "And do you think maybe your message has"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "resonated with the Senate?"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "Well, you know, there are a lot of"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "senators who are upset with the changes."}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "The bill has gotten watered down. If"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "you're conservative, it didn't get"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "better. It got worse in the Senate in"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "some regards. It got better in one"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "regard. I think they've reduced the the"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "the bailout for those sanctuary cities"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "and blue states called the salt"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "deduction, which would allow you to"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "write off state and local taxes if you"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "live in a high tax state or locality."}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "That got better, but we're learning that"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "everything else is getting worse. Um"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "there's a provision that was in this"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "bill that I fought hard for called the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "Reigns Act. Uh and that started in our"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "judiciary committee here in the house in"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "the regulatory reform subcommittee which"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "I used to chair. We got the Reigns Act"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "passed. We had a hearing on it. But the"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "Reigns Act would say that if you have a"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "regulation that is going to affect the"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "economy then by more than several tens"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "of millions of dollars, then it has to"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "come back to Congress for a vote. You"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "can't do that by executive order or by"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "administrative fiat. Well, we got a"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "version of that in the House version of"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "the a big beautiful bill, but it turns"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "out the Senate has stripped that out."}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "So, that's a bad thing. There may be"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "other u good things that are getting"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "stripped out in the Senate. We'll see. I"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "have said all along, Clayton, that if"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "the bill gets better in the Senate, I'll"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "consider voting for it, but I'm worried"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "that it's not getting better. And"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "ultimately, it's about the impact on our"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "debt and our deficit. They say this"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "thing balances. It's further from"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "balancing now after it goes through the"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "Senate. And the only reason they can"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "make it balance is they spend all the"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "money in the first 5 years and promise"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "to cut the spending 5 years from now"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "when most of these people won't be here"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "any longer. You saw today the Fed held"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "rates steady. They did not drop. They"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "did not increase. So the cost of living"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "is, you know, it's still high. Uh we've"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "made economic progress under Trump, but"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "for how long? So, if you're wondering,"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "well, you know, I'm struggling. I have"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "these highinterest credit card debts or"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "highinterest medical debts, student"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "loan. Should I refinance with my home?"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "Well, you can call American Financing"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "and they can help you make that"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "calculation in real time. Because even"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "if you have a low rate on your house,"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "but you're still paying so much interest"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "on other debt, you're not making out."}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "You're still digging yourself in the"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "red. They can help you learn to evaluate"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "this in a smart way. uh especially if"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "that credit card de interest is 25% even"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "15% that's costing you thousands. So"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "this is something that wealthy people"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "know to do is leverage their assets and"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "make sure that your debt is optimal"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "instead of hoarding one asset that you"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "think is keeping your wealth. It's not."}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "Again, this is one of many financial"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "tools that wealthy people use all the"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "time uh but most of us are not taught."}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "So teach yourself that by calling"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "American Financing, having a"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "conversation or go to"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "americanfinancing.net/redacted."}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "Uh you can call them at 1866898434"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "or again go to americanfancing.net. But"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "really, it will behoove you to have a"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "conversation, ask all the questions so"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "that you know what you're doing and get"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "that monkey off your back and build"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "wealth instead of dig into debt. Call"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "them. They're saving their customers an"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "average of $800 per month. Also, they"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "can get you out of a mortgage payment or"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "two. Give you some breathing room. Build"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "wealth, not debt."}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "americanfancing.net/reducted."}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "Now, I want to talk about this faction"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "inside of party politics because studies"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "show that the right has a wide diversity"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "of thought or has in the last 5 years."}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "Whereas the left often moves in"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "ideological lock step. But now we're"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "seeing these purity tests on the right,"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "which is real MAGA versus face fake"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "MAGA. the White House posting trust"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "President Trump. People who questioned"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "rightly so the uh bombing raid in Iran"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "were called panakans. Has the right"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "forgotten that it's supposed to be the"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "party of independent thinking that"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "that's what they prided themselves on"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "during the pandemic? What's happening"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "there? Is this tribalist test?"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "How do you see this? Why is this playing"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "out right now? Look, I think you've put"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "your finger on it. This is exactly the"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "issue. Are are we a party of a of a"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "personality or are we a party of ideas?"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "And um I'm worried that it's a party of"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "personality. The purity test now isn't"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "are you for the same ideas that our"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "party is for or the same ideas that you"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "campaigned on. The purity test now is"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "will you rubber stamp whatever President"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "Trump wants. Now, 85 or 90% of the time,"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "I'm in agreement with President Trump"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "because he's upholding the principles of"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "the Republican party and those things"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "that he campaigned on. But when he gets"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "us involved in another war in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "East or when he increases the deficit,"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "I'm sorry, that's not the that's not the"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "program that I signed up for. So, you"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "can be mad at me, but I think we need"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "more voices in Congress. And frankly, a"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "lot of these issues are not even issues"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "the president cares about. He didn't"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "necessarily campaign on reducing the"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "debt or the deficit. He just wants to"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "get a deal done. And right now within"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "the Senate and the House, it's the big"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "spenders who are ascendant. They are the"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "ones who get to write the bill. And then"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "the president is saying, \"All right,"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "well, let's go with that because that's"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "what they came up with.\" It's not the"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "end of the world if this bill fails. If"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "this bill fails, we go back to the"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "drawing board and we write a better"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "version of it. I think a more"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "conservative version, a skinnier version"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "of it, not a big giant bill that"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "combines everything together. But yeah,"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "let's take care of the border. Let's"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "extend those tax cuts that I voted for"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "in 2017. And let's put the work"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "requirements in Medicaid. We can balance"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "this budget with the and repeal the"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "Green New Deal. And we can balance this"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "budget and do some good things. We don't"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "have to put all this other uh stuff in"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "it. Congressman, we'll get you out of"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "here on this. We know you got to run,"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "but uh President Trump at the NATO"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "summit getting off the airplane, putting"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "on a USA hat, and we just did a whole"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "segment that Natalie just did a moment"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "ago about, you know, Europe seems to be"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "gerting themselves for war, and Ursula"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "Ursula Leanderline is extremely excited"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "that her European allies are getting"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "ready for Putin to invade the rest of"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "Europe. They're on a war footing. What"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "do you hope the President Trump's"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "message will be at NATO other than what"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "my my dream would be is like, hey, I'm"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "closing it down. We're done with NATO."}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "But what what do you hope he'll say?"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Well, you know, NATO can keep going. We"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "just don't need to be in it. I I would"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "hope he would say, \"You all are big boys"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "now. You can defend yourselves. We don't"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "need to be involved in your wars. We"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "don't need to be underwriting your"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "socialism by defending your borders. And"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "if you're going to get rid of all your"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "coal powered plants and buy natural gas"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "and oil from Putin, then that's on you,"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "not us. That's what he should be saying"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "to those folks in NATO. But, you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "NATO is a cold war relic. It doesn't"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "need to exist anymore in the sense that"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "exists now. You've got the European"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "Union. Those folks can stick up for"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "themselves. And Putin, I I've got no"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "affinity for Putin. He's a Cold War"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "relic, too. But he's popular in his own"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "country because we keep pushing this"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "other Cold War relic up against their"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "borders, and that's called NATO. Trump"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "could should tell them, \"We're not"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "going, the United States is not going to"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "be in favor of expanding NATO.\" That's"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "one of the things that triggered this"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "war in Ukraine. So, don't ask us to vote"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "for any more expansion. We don't even"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "need even if you agree with the concept"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "of NATO and even if you did want to"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "expand it, we don't need any more"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "freeloaders in NATO."}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Right. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Uh"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "speaking of freeloaders, you and I both"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "know that we are able to fund NATO, the"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "wars abroad, all kinds of nonsense"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "because of the Federal Reserve. Uh this"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "is something that Americans just don't"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "acutely pay attention to. So you and I"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "and Clayton and the Pauls, we scream"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "from the rooftops and the Fed. You"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "actually did something about it. You"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "introduced the Federal Reserve Abolition"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "Act. So let's scream ourselves horse and"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "ask other Americans to take note. Shall"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "we do that? Why don't you you don't have"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "to scream, but tell us about it so that"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "we all get fired up. Well, listen. For"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "several years, I introduced the Federal"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "Reserve Audit Act just to audit them."}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "That's all I was asking for. But it"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "became so ridiculous that I had to"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "reintroduce the Abolition Act. There's"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "no reason for it to exist. But here's"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "the good news. They're becoming"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "irrelevant. You know, the president is"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "mad at the at the Fed uh chairman for"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "not lowering interest rates. Guess what?"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "He's not even in control anymore."}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "Congress is spending so much. And the"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "implication of this big beautiful bill"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "is that Moody's downgraded our credit"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "rating and the people who buy our debt"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "are saying, \"You know what? We don't"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "want to buy your debt at 4 and a half%."}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "We're going to have to have 5%. You're"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "not as good of a of an investment as you"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "used to be because you've shown us you"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "have no intention of ever being fiscally"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "responsible. And oh, by the way, you're"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "buy we're buying your debt in US dollars"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "and you are um causing inflation and"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "devaluing US dollars.\" So, we're really"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "not getting any kind of return. So, even"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "if the Fed wanted to make interest rates"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "2% or 3% or 0% again, they can't even do"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "it. The free market, and when I say free"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "market, I'm just saying the global"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "market, the people who typically buy our"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "debt, the multinational banks and the"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "sovereign wealth funds are saying,"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "\"Nope, we're not giving you the the free"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "ride you were getting before. We need"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "higher interest rates.\" The Fed may end"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "itself."}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "Wow. Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah."}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "Wow. Just like Jeffrey Epstein. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "Congressman Massie, great to see you as"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "always. The thickest hide in Congress,"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "by the way. Thank you as always. And I I"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "asked our chat room earlier. I said,"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "\"Hey, you know, is is Thomas Massie"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "MAGA?\" Overwhelmingly, they're like,"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "\"Massie is MAGA. Massie is MAGA.\""}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "though. When I when I heard there was a"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "when I heard there was a ceasefire, I"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "was hoping it was between me and Trump."}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "You know, I've taken three bunker"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "busters and I'm still here. I'm ready to"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "call it even. Do you want me to mediate?"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "I will. I'm offering to do that. We can"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "get in a room. We can go to Turkey."}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "Putin has offered to mediate."}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "All right. I'll take up any offers of"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "mediation, but probably not Putin. All"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "right. Thank you, Congressman, as"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "always. Good luck to you. Thank you for"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "always standing tall in the face of all"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "this criticism. Uh, you know, Redacted"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "has your back as usual. Thanks. Thanks,"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "Congressman. Great to see you."}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "Thank you very much both Emmy."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "All right. Well, this is how President"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "Trump showed up at the NATO summit"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "today, letting everyone know what his"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "priorities are here. He steps off the"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "plane in Europe and he puts on his USA"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "hat. This is how he's going to meet with"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "NATO leaders to tell them, \"We are not"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "paying for your security anymore. We"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "want you to pay up or else.\" I'm not"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "quite sure what that or else means. I"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "hope it's big. I hope it closes closes"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "down NATO altogether. I I really do want"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "that, but I've been wanting that for a"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "long time. And as a parent, I don't like"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "empty threats. If you say you're going"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "to take away the screen time, you got"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "to. Am I right? Well, in fact, the"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "president is reportedly not even going"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "to go to the NATO meetings, but just"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "show up at the dinners and then let the"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "rest of them kind of come to him. Now,"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "the president and the vice president"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "have been telling NATO members that they"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "need to commit to spending 5% of their"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "country's GDP to NATO. and we want to"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "see you put your money where your mouth"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "is. But NATO leaders are trying to be"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "super shady about this. And I hope that"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "the president can see right through"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "this. Now, the president posted this on"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "Truth Social today after Spain said that"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "they would only pay 2.5%"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "into NATO. This chart shows how little"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "everyone else spends compared to the US."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "Very few of them even hit 2%. How did"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "Poland get so screwed to be spending so"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "much all along when the rest of them are"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "just kind of flying under the radar, not"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "paying their fair share? Why don't they"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "get the youngest child deal? I wonder."}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "The UK says that they will increase"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "their NATO spending, but they're doing"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "it just with tricky bookkeeping. They're"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "not actually going to commit more"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "defense. What they're doing is called"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "smoke and mirrors. According to the"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "Telegraph, they're not actually going to"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "put any new money in. What K Starmer is"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "doing is counting old infrastructure"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "projects and calling them new defense"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "spending, which is a ruse. So if you are"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "buying this BS line that the UK needs"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "more defense and will spend more, you're"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "going to get nothing for that except for"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "old projects. It's a journal entry."}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "They're not actually going to spend more"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "money. Uh opponents of this say you"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "can't stop missiles with spreadsheets."}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "You're not actually doing anything new."}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "Do you think President Trump will not"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "see right through this? Like, oh yeah,"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "we're going to basically someone says,"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "\"Well, how much are you spending on your"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "kids' tuition?\" And you're like, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "I bought them school clothes last last"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "year, so does that count? That counts"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "into what I'm committing?\" Absolutely"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "not. Spain says they're not going to"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "come up to this 5% full stop. They say"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "that NATO's pledge allows each country"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "level flexibility. So they say our level"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "is 2.1%."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "That's what we want to pay and that's"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "what we're sticking with. Now, what they"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "say is that they can't afford more"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "defense because it would cause them to"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "cut social programs, which should piss"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "you as an American right off because"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "what they get in Spain, they're saying,"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "\"We want to keep giving our people free"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "healthcare, early retirement, 35 hour"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "work week. Americans don't get that. We"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "want to keep doing that, which means we"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "can't pay into our defense. So we as"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "Americans will keep paying for their"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "military and they will keep having a"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "cushy life. Now I feel this acutely"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "having lived for 5 years on the Iberian"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "Peninsula treating like this go"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "American. We get disrespected but our"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "tax dollars subsidize their good"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "lifestyle like we as Americans don't"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "know the good life. Well no because we"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "work harder to support your good life."}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "Uh Michael Shelonburgger put it this way"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "recently and I feel this in my bones."}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "Watch. We go to Europe. You have"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "universal healthcare. You work 35 hours"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "a week. You retire at a young age. You"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "don't work nearly as hard as we do in"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "the United States. You have many more"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "benefits in large part because we pay"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "for all of your security or a large part"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "of it."}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "And in return, we just just get"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "disrespect, entitlement, like we're like"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "your children and we're this is a"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "dysfunctional relationship. It needs to"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "end. It needs to change."}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "Okay. So, is this summit where President"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Trump makes this change and says to"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "Europeans, you don't get this kush life"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "because we pay your military anymore? Is"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "or will he be hoodwinkedked by these"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "journal entry type things? Now, here's"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "how these spoiled brats are going to try"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "to convince the president that our"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "support is absolutely necessary. It's"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "war emergency. NATO leader Mark Rut"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "keeps screaming that the Russians are"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "coming, but he can't exactly say why or"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "when. Here is today EU Commissioner"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Ursula Vanderion saying that they are"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "already at war with Russia. So, that's"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "why it's absolutely necessary to beef up"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "all of their military spending on our"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "dollar. Here is her absolute lying ugly"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "face. Watch."}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "You're adapting to the new reality of a"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "fullscale war right here on European"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "soil."}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "And just like your industry,"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "all of Europe is facing a changing inter"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "international landscape."}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "But in recent months, Europe has taken"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "action."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "action that seemed unthinkable just a"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "year ago. We set up the Rearm Europe"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "plan to mobilize indeed 650 billion"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "euros in defense investment over the"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "next four years. We must build more"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "bridges between civilian and military."}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "We know that Russia will be capable of"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "testing our mutual defense commitments"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "within the next five years. I thank you"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "for this opportunity to engage with you."}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "Long live Europe and thank you very"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "much."}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "I I mean I I'm just telling you Russia's"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "coming for you in the next 5 years."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "Thanks everybody. This has been great."}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "And I'm so glad to see all of my"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "European allies here who are getting"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "ready for Putin's invasion of Europe. So"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "as one douchebag in the chat just said,"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "he's like uh you know uh redacted is"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "just is paid propaganda by by Putin"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "Russian Russian propagandists. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "Okay. That work that might have worked"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "like three years ago. So stupid. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "even going to be bothered with that."}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Uh yeah. Um she's obviously lying."}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "Russian state media has put a limit on"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "where this war ends. We've gone over"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "this and over it and over again. You can"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "refuse to see it if you want, but RAIA's"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "state media defines the war on that map"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "right there. The dark gray is where this"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "ends. They've never said they wanted the"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "rest of Ukraine. They never said they"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "wanted Europe. Why the heck would Russia"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "want the these countries full of spoiled"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "brats? I'm not saying you Europeans, you"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "have no power. Europeans themselves,"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "lovely people, they have no power. Their"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "government has a government that makes"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "decisions to"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "basically make their lives miserable."}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "You know it and I know it. No European"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "thinks the EU makes their lives better."}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "I don't know anyone who would. Okay. And"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "then speaking of spoiled brats, again,"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "not Europeans, European leaders, uh,"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "Zalinsky is not going to be in the NATO"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "summit meetings, but he does get to go"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "to the dinner and pose for photo ops."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "What he's saying here basically is a lot"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "of crap. NATO's still behind him. We're"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "still going to sanction Russia, blah"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "blah blah. I mean, he's not even really"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "in the room where it happened. He's just"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "literally like waiting in the hallway"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "for his photo op. says some strong"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "things about Russia and then he's out."}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "Um, and on the plane to this NATO"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "summit, President Trump was asked if"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "he's still trying to broker a deal"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "between Russia and Ukraine. He said"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "absolutely yes. I would like Putin to"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "come to the negotiation table. He says,"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "you know, Putin called to see if I'd"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "like help with Iran. And I was like, no,"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "I got it. Don't need your help there,"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "but I need you to, you know, get a deal"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "done with Ukraine. So, Zalinski who? So"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "again, we're going to see a lot more"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "posturing and dumb stuff out of this"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "NATO summit. We hope though that"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "President Trump shows off up with that"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "boss energy and tells them you need to"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "pay up or we're out. Otherwise, you deal"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "with this Russia stuff yourself. Also,"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "Russia's not coming. Work yourself into"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "a tizzy all you want. We're out. That's"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "what I would like to see if the"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "president is watching. So, that's the"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "news update part of today's video. Now I"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "want to tell you about today's sponsor"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "which is tied directly in everything we"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "just talked about and an acutely"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "important topic right now and that is"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "how the United States of America is"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "currently making sure that its national"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "security isn't compromised when it comes"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "to the very basics of our economy. So"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "there are many moving parts that I'm"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "tracking closely especially from trade"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "US dollar collapse and my focus though"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "is on materials the bedrock right now of"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "our economy and I want to share with you"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "some critical data in my view. The"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "United States is going to find it hard"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "to compete in the era of America First,"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "where Trump's top priority isn't to help"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "other countries, but to rebuild"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "America's industries after this shameful"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "globalist period. If we don't secure"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "mining of this strategic metal, that's"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "why President Trump has signed executive"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "orders, historic executive orders, to"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "protect copper production and mining on"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "US soil. Copper is often called the new"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "oil. It's at the heart of America's"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "future and I couldn't be more bullish"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "about it, especially when it's coupled"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "with gold. So, copper demand right now"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "is surging while supply struggling to"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "keep pace. On a scale of 1 to 10, I am a"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "full 10 on domestic US copper"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "production. You know that I've been"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "talking about it for years here on the"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "show. So, that's where this basic and"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "common sense supply and demand comes"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "into my bullish thesis. Global mine"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "production is expected to peak in 2026."}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "Underinvestment in new mines has created"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "a massive supply crunch. The United"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "States and China trade war has disrupted"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "global copper supply chains in a big"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "way. So, we're in desperate need right"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "now of copper mining on US soil."}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "American industries depend on copper and"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "they should be made in America. No"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "exemptions, no exceptions. America first"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "creates American jobs and protects our"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "national security. It's time for copper"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "to come home. So, Giant Mining is the"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "sponsor of today's video. Here is their"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "ticker on your screen. Check this out."}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "Not only does it own a copper, silver,"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "gold project in Nevada, but it also just"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "recorded the best ever drill intercepts"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "in September of 2024 and additional"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "great results just in the past few"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "weeks. That's why I wanted to share this"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "with you today. This company is the only"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "copper company that I'm bullish on right"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "now. It's currently trading for just 16"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "cents a share. That's the same price as"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "of January 2nd before Trump came into"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "office and revived the American copper"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "industry. On February 14th, executive"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "order 14213 was issued and implicitly"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "prioritizes copper as a critical"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "resource. And Nevada, where Giant"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "Mining's copper project is situated, has"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "constantly ranked among the top mining"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "jurisdictions in the world, which is why"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "I'm bringing this company to your"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "attention today. Now, the share price is"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "down 54% since early February due to"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "market turmoil. So, I'm highlighting the"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "company to you today for a reason. Giant"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "Mining owns the Mujaba Hill Copper"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "Project, which is a past producing mine."}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "In the past four years, management and"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "the company's geologists have actually"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "expanded the copper deposit. And this"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "past September, Giant Mining hit their"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "best ever drill hole. So, the 2025"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "results are right now on your screen."}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "Take a look at this and look at these"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "latest mineralizations of copper that"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "they found. Now, take a look at your"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "screen right now. I'm going to actually"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "leave this up here for a few seconds so"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "you can look at it. These are the"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "highlights of the 2025 drill program."}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "And David Greenway, the CEO of Giant"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "Mining, commented on these that Nevada"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "continues to prove itself as a"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "world-class mining jurisdiction, ideally"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "positioned to support the America First"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "policy and bolster domestic resource"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "security. With global copper demand"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "soaring, Majaba Hill offers a compelling"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "homegrown solution to help meet"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "America's significant and growing"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "consumption of copper. End quote. But"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "I've saved the best for last because the"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "drill hole MHB-34"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "had David Greenway, the company's CEO,"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "saying the following. In my entire"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "career, I've never seen drill core like"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "this. It's truly extraordinary. When we"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "began drilling the MHB 34, we had high"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "expectations, but what we encountered"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "exceeded them all. In my entire career,"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "I've never seen drill core like this."}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "The presence of visible native copper"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "beyond 1850 ft is a powerful indicator"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "of the scale and the strength of the"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "mineralized system at Mujaba Hill. This"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "whole reinforces our belief that Mjaba"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "Hill is evolving into a worldclass"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "copper, silver, and gold discovery. End"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "quote. Those are his words. I will say"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "this again. All of these factors and the"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "following ones are the ones that led me"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "to my bullish opinion about giant"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "mining. The infrastructure is ready."}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "access roads, power supply,"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "transportation, they have a water"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "supply, they have ore stockpiles, and"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "they have the processing space right"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "there. They have a processing plant. So"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "guys, do your own homework on Giant"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "Mining. Here is their ticker on your"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "screen once again and we'll see you next"}]

[{"end": "00:00:03", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Heat. Heat."}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "My fellow Americans,"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "Let's talk about the situation at the"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "border. We've seen a huge surge in"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "migrants crossing the border since"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "January. the number of children in"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "custody higher than it was than its 2019"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "peak during the Trump administration."}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "Your colleague Veronica Kacobar of Texas"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "called the conditions there"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "unacceptable. She was there on Friday."}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Is she right? What more must be done?"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "The actually the facts are these. There"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "are more children about 6700 more"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "children unaccompanied children coming o"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "over the border. uh the uh this is a"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "humanitarian challenge to all of us. Uh"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "what the administration has inherited is"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "a broken system at the border and they"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "are working to correct that in the"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "children's interest. I'm so pleased that"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "the president as a temporary measure has"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "sent FEMA to the border in order to help"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "facilitate the children going from one"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "72-hour"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "issue into where they are cared for as"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "they are transferred into family homes"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "or homes that are safe for them to be."}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "And I have to confess, I knew nothing"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "about their suffering until 2021 when I"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "volunteered to help the Biden"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "administration with the crisis at the"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "southern border. As part of Operation"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "Artemis, I was deployed to the Pomona"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "Fairplex Emergency Intake Site in"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "California to help HHS Office of Refugee"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "Resettlement reunite children with"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "sponsors in the United States. I thought"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "I was going to help place children in"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "loving homes. Instead, I discovered that"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "children are being trafficked through a"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "sophisticated network that begins with"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "recruiting in home country, smuggling to"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "the US border, and ends when ORR"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "delivers a child to a sponsor. Some"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "sponsors are criminals and traffickers"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "and members of transnational criminal"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "organizations. Some sponsors view"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "children as commodities and assets to be"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "used for earning income. This is why we"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "are witnessing an explosion of labor"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "trafficking. Now, whether it's"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "intentional or not, it could be argued"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "that the United States government has"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "become the middleman in a largecale"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "multi-billion dollar child trafficking"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "operation that is run by bad actors"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "seeking to profit off of the lives of"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "children."}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "Russia said once they take Ukraine,"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "Poland and the Baltics are next. Those"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "are NATO countries that puts America at"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "war. This is about preventing war. It's"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "always been about preventing war. My"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "husband is a combat veteran. He's"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "deployed now. The last thing I want him"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "or any of his military brothers and"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "sisters to do is to go to war. I think"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "it is time to give the Ukrainians more"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "help uh hitting these bases inside"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "Russia. One of the reasons that the"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "administration has hesitated is because"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "they believe it will escalate things"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "even further with Russia. Pull the US"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "further in. Why not? Why? So, why do you"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "think that's a good idea? Because it's"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "Russia that has escalated this war."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "Russia has learned how to pull its"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "forces back out of the range where we"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "have allowed uh Ukraine to use our"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "weapons and get our support. American"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "media outlets have spoken to scores of"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "people from Ukraine and they have done"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "scores of interviews with Ukrainian"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "President Silinski. We ourselves have"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "put in a request for an interview with"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "Silinsky and we hope he accepts. But the"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "interviews he's already done in the"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "United States are not traditional"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "interviews. They are faing pep sessions"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "specifically designed to amplify"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "Zalinsk's demand that the US enter more"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "pay for it. That is not journalism. It"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "is government propaganda. Propaganda of"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "the ugliest kind. The kind that kills"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "people. At the same time, our"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "politicians and media outlets have been"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "doing this, promoting a foreign leader"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "like he's a new consumer brand. Not a"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "single Western journalist has bothered"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "to interview the president of the other"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "country involved in this conflict,"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "Vladimir Putin. Most Americans have no"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "his goals are now. They've never heard"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "his voice. That's wrong. Americans have"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "a right to know all they can about a war"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "they're implicated in. And we have the"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "right to tell them about it because we"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "are Americans, too. The idea that we're"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "going to send in offensive equipment and"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "have planes and tanks and trains going"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "in with American pilots and American"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "crews. Just understand and don't kid"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "yourself. No matter what you all say,"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "that's called World War II. US official"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "has confirmed to CBS News President"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "Biden has given authorization for Keefe"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "to use US supplied long-range weapons to"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "strike deep into Russian territory."}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "I'm sitting here with my father. I will"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "make certain that between the man"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "sitting next to me and every person he"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "knows and my ability to forever hold a"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "grudge that you will regret not"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "following my direction. I am sitting"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "here waiting for the call with my"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "father."}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it,"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "director?"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "I'm not going to get into company with"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "them. You you you seem deeply uncurious"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "about it, don't you? Almost suspiciously"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "uncurious. Are you protecting the"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "Bidens? Absolutely not. The FBI does"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "you want to answer the question about"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "whether or not that's a shakeddown and"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "everybody knows why you won't answer it"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "because to to the millions of people who"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "will see this. They know it is and your"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "inability to acknowledge that is deeply"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "revealing about you."}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "Heat."}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "Heat."}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "British police into the embassy and"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "arrest. After a long flight from the UK,"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "Julian Assange's day began on the island"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "of Saipan, a tiny territory chosen"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "because it's the closest US court to"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "Australia."}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "This normally quiet courthouse swarming"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "with reporters as the Wikileaks founder"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "arrived flanked by former Prime Minister"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "Kevin Rudd."}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "The individual used an AR-15 in order to"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "act out his assassination attempt. An"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "AR-15 has a range of about 4 to 600"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "yards. My question, why is the Secret"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "Service protective perimeter"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "shorter than one of the most popular"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "semi-automatic weapons in the United"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "States? There are a number of weapons"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "out there uh with a number of ranges. Uh"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "again, an advance was completed. uh the"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "determination of the perimeter. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "going to speak to specifics, but there"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "are a number of factors that are taken"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "into account when we determine our"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "perimeter. Uh some of it has to do with"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "terrain, some of it has to do with"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "buildings, some of it has to do with"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "assets and resources uh that are"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "available. What I'm hearing is that a"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "perimeter was not established outdoors"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "in an outdoor venue that would prevent"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "an AR-15, which is one of the most"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "common weapons used in mass shootings,"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "um, from being able to to be within the"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "range of Secret Service protection."}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "Have you provided all audio and video"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "recordings in your possession to this"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "committee as we asked on July 15th? Yes"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "or no? I would have to get back to you."}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "That is a no. You're full of today."}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "You're just being completely dishonest."}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "So what is the threat to democracy?"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "People on both sides, people in power"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "saying out loud that they want to"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "control what you get to hear and see. It"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "is real. It is a threat"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "and it is happening and growing. And"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "I'll tell you what, punishing thought"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "is on the agenda. And I just heard it"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "from someone who's not a coup, not Alex"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "Jones, not Tucker Carlson, one of the"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "most sober and intelligent politicians"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "of our time, Hillary Rodm Clinton. I"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "think it's important to indict uh the"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "Russians uh just as Mueller indicted a"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "lot of Russians uh who were engaged in"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "uh uh direct election interference and"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "think there are Americans who are uh"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "and whether they should be civily or"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "even in some cases criminally charged uh"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "is something that would be a better"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "deterrent. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "admitted that the Biden administration"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "repeatedly pressured Meta to censor"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "content including information about"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "Hunter Biden. And Zuck admitted that he"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "also regrets complying with these"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "demands. In a letter to the House"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "Judiciary Committee Chairman,"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "Representative Jim Jordan, Zuck writes,"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "quote, \"The FBI warned us about a"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "potential Russian disinformation"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "operation about the Biden family and"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "Bereisma in the leadup to the 2020"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "election. That fall, when we saw a New"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "York Post story reporting on Joe Biden's"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "family, we sent that story to fact"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "checkers for review and temporarily"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "demoted it. you know, you do some tweets"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "that seem to be or at least give support"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "to some who would call others conspiracy"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "theories."}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "Well, yes, but I mean honestly, you"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "know,"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "some of these conspiracy theories uh"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "have turned out to be true. Which ones?"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "Well, like the the Hunter Biden laptop."}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I am in awe of"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "Ms. Janowitz,"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "when the department picked her, did did"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "it know that she had said that Mr."}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "disinformation? Did it know that she had"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "vouched"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "for the veracity of the steel dossier?"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "Uh, Senator, let me um repeat myself and"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "add an additional fact. Um, one, we do"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "not discuss uh internal hiring"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "processes. I think you've got no idea"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "what disinformation is, and I don't"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "think the government's capable of it. Do"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "you know who the greatest propagator of"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "disinformation in the history of the"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "world is? The US government. Think of"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "all the debates and disputes we've had"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "over the last 50 years in our country."}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "We work them out by debating them. We"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "don't work them out by the government"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "being the arbiter. I don't want you"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "guard rails. I want you to have nothing"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "to do with speech."}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "To be a conspiracy theorist is to have"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "been right all along despite the efforts"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "of the paid for liars. And it's also to"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "be demonstrabably well ahead of the"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "gullible still believing in smoke and"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "mirrors. conspiracy theorist was first"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "used by the CIA to shut down those who"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "doubted the official line about the"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "murder of John F. Kennedy. That fishy"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "old tale about a lone shooter and a"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "magic bullet and then that lone shooter"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "being shot by another lone shooter"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "before he could talk. That was in the"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "1960s. And from then the label"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "conspiracy theorist worked for decades"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "as the means to make thinking people too"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "scared to speak when they smelt a rat."}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "Let 2024 be the year of clearing out the"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "rubbish, the trash, the long overdue"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "year when the past or sell by date"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "labels, conspiracy theorists among them,"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "are cast into the dust bin of history."}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "Hey everybody, wake up live from the"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "Rocky Mountains. This is Redacted. I'm"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "Clayton Morris. I'm Natalie Morris. It's"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "powder blue day. Apparently, we did not"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "plan this. We didn't coordinate. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "At all. We got a lot of news to get to"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "on your Tuesday. We're going to deep"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "dive what is going on with this"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "ceasefire. President Trump slamming"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "Israel, basically slamming Iran, but"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "really being really being pissed off"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "about Israel and where things stand."}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "Basically told them to turn around, stop"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "firing these rockets at the last second."}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "Uh, apparently there was consternation"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "on the Israeli side about this."}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "President Trump landing at the NATO"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "summit um and basically telling both"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "sides to knock it off right now. We want"}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "a ceasefire. All right. Also, Trump is"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "joining the dead beatats of NATO this"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "week at their NATO summit in order to"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "tell them, \"You better start paying up."}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "We're tired of being your sugar daddy"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "and stop scaring the world about Russia."}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "Knock this off right now.\" And in fact,"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "he showed up. We're going to show you"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "the video, put on a USA hat, and is not"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "even going to summit meetings. He's"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "going to make them come to him at the"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "dinner. We'll have some talks, but I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "not very happy with you a-holes. We're"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "not either. So, that uh we're feeling"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "that. Uh we're also going to talk about"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "the Christians being attacked and hunted"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "down in Syria. Plus, Congressman Thomas"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "Massie uh is going to be joining us here"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "in a little bit. All of that and more."}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "So, let us know where you're joining us"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "from around the world today. Good to see"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "all of you on Rumble, on YouTube, on"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "Twitch, on X. And we've got massive"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "thunderstorms outside. So, you know,"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "bear with us here if the if suddenly we"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "have you hear the crackle of thunder uh"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "and the power goes out. Hopefully not."}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "Hopefully not. If you joined us on the"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "emergency broadcast when Israel started"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "to bomb Iran, uh we we were going hot"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "and heavy and then our power was cut. Uh"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "we walked outside and a contractor was"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "holding the cord. So, we don't think it"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "was the deep state. Most likely it"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "wasn't, but you never know given that"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "we're literally a momand pop operation"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "here. Yeah. All right. So, we're going"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "to talk about the latest with Israel and"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "Iran and President Trump and what does"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "Israel do next. What about regime"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "change? We're going to talk about that."}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "But first, first we want to tell you"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "about our friends at American Financing"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "because we're all feeling it. Costs are"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "still rising. Inflation is slowing, but"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "still a thing. Prices are still going"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "up. So, you think, well, should I call"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "American Financing to refinance and pay"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "off this credit card debt that I'm"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "living off of? But then you second guess"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "yourself because the low mortgage rate"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "that you have. But obviously when you"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "evaluate your debt, if you're paying"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "super high interest in one place and low"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "interest in another, you're never going"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "to build yourself out of debt and into"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "financial freedom, the math doesn't work"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "out. Let American Financing show you"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "that with their tools that will teach"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "you this product that wealthy people do"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "all the time, which is leverage assets"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "and build instead of continuing to dig"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "into the red. Because again, if you're"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "only making minimum payments on that bad"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "debt, you're not going anywhere. you're"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "basically treading water. So, you owe it"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "to your family to learn this trick and"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "see what's possible. There's no upfront"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "fees, no pressure. They're just going to"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "teach you this. Call them at 86689-8434."}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "Again, that's 86689-8434"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "or head on over to"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "americanfinancing.net/redacted."}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "Commit to spending the time to study"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "this. See if it works for your family"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "and then you can build wealth. again"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "86689-8434"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "or head on over to"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "americanfancing.net/redacted."}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "Well, President Trump got pissed um on"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "Monday. He victory lapped a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "agreement between Israel and Iran. Here"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "was his truth social. We have completed"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "our very successful attack on three"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "nuclear sites in Iran. Um including"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "Fordo, Natans, Eshvahan, all planes now"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "outside of Iran airspace. a full payload"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "of bombs was dropped and you know the"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "rest. And then on Tuesday, Israel defied"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "him and continue to fire against Iran."}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "Anyway, and then Trump posted this."}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "Israel, do not drop those bombs. If you"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "do, it is a major violation. Bring your"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "pilots home now. Donald Trump, President"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "of the United States. They got no"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "shalom. Remember when he was warning"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "Hamas with them shalom? They did not"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "even get those nicities this time. It"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "was, \"We're talking to you.\" Now, the"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "president spoke on his way to the NATO"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "summit, reflecting what a lot of us have"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "felt and even dropping this fbomb. We've"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "warned you about it. The president is"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "clearly pissed. Watch."}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "Iran violated the peace agreement and"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "that Iran is still committed to peace?"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "Yeah, I do. They violated, but Israel"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "violated it, too. Are you Israel?"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "Israel. As soon as we made the deal,"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "they came out and they dropped a load of"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "bombs the likes of which I've never seen"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "before. The biggest load that we've"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "know, when when I say, \"Okay, now you"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "have 12 hours.\" You don't go out in the"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "first hour and just drop everything you"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "have on them. So, I'm not happy with"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "them. I'm not happy with Iran either."}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "But I'm really unhappy if Israel is"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "going out this morning because the one"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "rocket that didn't land that was shot"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "not happy about that."}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "You know what? We have We basically have"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "two countries that have been fighting so"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "long and so hard that they don't know"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "what the they're doing. Do you"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "understand that?"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "That's pretty clear terms. I understand,"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "sir. It's a very clear a very clear"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "message. And then later on the airplane,"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "he was asked if he wants regime change"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "in Iran. And he returned to the"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "diplomacy that we'd be uh Yeah. And does"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "he want regime change after all? Listen,"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "do you want to see regime change in"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "Iran? No. If there was, there was. But"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "no, I don't want I'd like to see"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "everything calm down as quickly as"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "possible. Uh, regime change takes chaos,"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "and ideally, we don't want to see so"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "much chaos. So, we'll see how it does."}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "You know, the Iranians are very good"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "traders, very good business people, and"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "they got a lot of oil. They they should"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "be fine. They they should be able to"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "rebuild and do a good job. They're never"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "going to have nuclear, but other than"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "that, they should do a great job."}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "All right, we want to bring them. He's"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "returning to diplomacy that we saw when"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "the peace talks began. So, we're going"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "to bring in uh journalist Max Blumenthal"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "now from the Grey Zone. Uh we want to"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "ask him his thoughts on this. But first"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "of all, Max, given Israel's history with"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "violating ceasefires, why is this a"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "surprise? Were we fools to trust that"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "this would hold in the first place?"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "Well, Trump is using invective and"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "threats without any concrete material"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "backing to try to make this ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "hold because because of that history."}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "And Israel's military chief of staff, Al"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "Zamir, said this war will not end. This"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "was just a phase. So, Israel's openly"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "saying that it will violate this"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "ceasefire that Trump claims will last"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "forever. Trump really see saw his"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "diplomacy"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "to the extent that it was diplomatic at"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "all as a master stroke that was going to"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "lead to him being granted the Nobel"}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "Prize for which he was nominated by"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "Pakistan just about 24 hours before he"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "initiated the pornthemed operation"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "midnight hammer with like 27 planes and"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "uh you know spending 60% of the US stock"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "of MOPs, 30,000 lb bombs to supposedly"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "eliminate the Fordo facility. And this"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "was all choreographed through Qatar with"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "uh plan or expectation that Iran would"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "um stage some symbolic strikes on the"}, {"end": "00:24:17", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "Alua air base and a few other US bases"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "that had already been evacuated. And"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:17", "text": "then everybody would get to claim a win"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "at the precise time that Trump wanted"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "it. And then it turned out that Israel"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "just arranged for a gigantic munitions"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "dump over uh over Thran"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "after"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "Trump's ceasefire had expired which"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "created uh another four waves of or"}, {"end": "00:24:44", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "provoked four waves of Iranian ballistic"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "missiles uh including one that had"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:44", "text": "struck a severe blow in the city of"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "Beeva and now the stage is set for"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "another phase. So Trump For the first"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "time, I think we saw a US president in"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "Trump really let out his fury and anger"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "against Israel. I mean, every prime min"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "president who's dealt with Prime"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "Minister Netanyahu has hated him. Bill"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "Clinton famously in 1996 stormed out of"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "a meeting with Netanyahu and said,"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "\"Who's the superpower here?\" But"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "that was private. This is public. And"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "what Trump has done is he has revealed"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "how much daylight exists between Tel"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "Aviv and Washington. And one more thing"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "he's done is he's trying to restore the"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "dignity that he lost in front of his"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "base and in front of the intellectual"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "architects of America First like Steve"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "Bannon and Tucker Carlson who had"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "accused him of betrayal for giving"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "Netanyahu what he wanted in waging this"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "strike."}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "you know, and then we we have a"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "historical record of Israel violating"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "these ceasefire agreements since October"}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "7th. Um, even before that and even"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "before that, I mean, over 3,000"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "ceasefire violated over 3,000 ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "terms since October 7th across Gaza and"}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "Lebanon. So, what makes us think, you"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "know, are they delusional to think that"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "this is going to hold, that this"}, {"end": "00:26:09", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "ceasefire will will be stamped in stone"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "and we're going to have a prosperous"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:09", "text": "Middle East? Specifically, can we also"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "ask this question? How will President"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "Trump stand in contrast to Biden?"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "Because Biden said, \"Do not go into"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "Lebanon.\" And they were like, \"That's"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "nice.\" And did it anyway. Here's a"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "ceasefire with Lebanon. That's nice. 20"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "2700 violations. President Biden did"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "nothing. So now at least we have Trump"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "showing frustration, but will there be"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "more than that because Biden did"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "nothing?"}, {"end": "00:26:44", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "Well, to try to answer both questions,"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "Trump has more power than Biden does to"}, {"end": "00:26:49", "start": "00:26:44", "text": "take concrete action against Israel to"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "enforce a ceasefire by suspending"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "weapons shipments, for example,"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "something neither of them have have"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "done. Because Donald Trump has a cult"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "following. He's sort of a cult leader"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "and his base will mostly go wherever he"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "wants. Although we've seen some"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "defections from top Trump influencers"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "and Republicans under 45. Only 20% of"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "Republicans on under 45 supported"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "Trump's strike on Iran enthusiastically"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "according to a new CNN poll. So Trump"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "has the the he has the credibility among"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "his base to go the other way and to"}, {"end": "00:27:29", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "really seriously pressure Israel. I"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "don't know if he will. I don't think he"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:29", "text": "will, but he has it. Israel suffered a"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "serious political and psychological blow"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "from this war. Yet neither side yet"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "Israel maintained the military upper"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "hand. And neither side, Iran or Israel,"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "established military deterrence. And so"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "what we're going to see in the weeks and"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "months ahead is more Israeli"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "assassination attempts, more sabotage"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "attacks like the kind we saw in April on"}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "the Bandar Abbas port in southern Iran"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "and more continuous warfare in the gray"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:03", "text": "zone which may provoke another phase of"}, {"end": "00:28:14", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "allout war. This is not a ceasefire. It"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "is an interregnum and Iran has to"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "restore or and improve its air defenses"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "which proved to be its biggest weakness."}, {"end": "00:28:25", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "And we don't know what happened with the"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "60% enriched uranium stockpile that was"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:25", "text": "supposedly spirited out of the Fordo"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "facility in the days before the US"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "strike. But if Iran manages to take that"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "to a safe place and begin enrichment"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "again, then Israel has seriously failed"}, {"end": "00:28:43", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "in its one of its top two objectives."}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "The other major objective here, the"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:43", "text": "major Israeli objective is regime change"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "and Israel completely failed there. Iran"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "demonstrated the resiliency of its"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "system and uh what Israel's attacks"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "targeting civilians did was produce a"}, {"end": "00:29:02", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "rally around the flag effect in Iran"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "which we will see uh intensify in the"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:02", "text": "coming days as the holiday of Muharam or"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "the observance of Muharam begins. So"}, {"end": "00:29:13", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "mask let me ask you this. I mean, you"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "saw Zionist over the past uh 24 hours"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:13", "text": "furious, really furious that Trump, I"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "think Mark Lean uh said that he was"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "furious. He hated the word ceasefire,"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "that you would never have a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "with Hitler. That's what he said. Um so"}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "it's always been about regime change and"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "so they're never going to be happy"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "unless the regime is ousted. So this"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "this cease I don't see how this the"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "ceasefire holds. I don't see how any we"}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "they just go back to their corners and"}, {"end": "00:29:46", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "call it a night. I think there are two"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "camps in the Israeli establishment. One"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:46", "text": "is sort of the leudnik fanatical"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "messianist camp that Mark Levvin, the"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "kind of astroturfed AM radio carnival"}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "barker, who is a never Trumper is giving"}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "voice to. And there's another that sees"}, {"end": "00:30:04", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "what Trump did as shortening the war uh"}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "to Israel's benefit and to Israel's"}, {"end": "00:30:10", "start": "00:30:04", "text": "relief. The fanatical camp is has a"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "sense of inviability"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:10", "text": "because of the wars of extermination it"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "carried out in Gaza and the blows it"}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "struck against Hezbollah. And they think"}, {"end": "00:30:23", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "that that Israel is sort of this"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "invincible lion. They're delusional"}, {"end": "00:30:29", "start": "00:30:23", "text": "because Iran managed to seriously"}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "puncture the colonial psyche of Israel"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:29", "text": "by physically penetrating Israel's Iron"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "Dome, its multi-billion dollar"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "multi-layered air defenses. And this did"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "serious psychological damage to Israel."}, {"end": "00:30:43", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "Did economic damage. I mean, they've"}, {"end": "00:30:46", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "they've struck they struck like a major"}, {"end": "00:30:49", "start": "00:30:43", "text": "tech park in Beva and hit the Microsoft"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:46", "text": "offices. This is going to cost Israel a"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:49", "text": "lot in foreign direct investment. and"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "Israel's credit rating is going to be"}, {"end": "00:30:58", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "downgraded again. But more importantly,"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "it has harmed the Israeli psyche."}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:30:58", "text": "Israelis are different from others in"}, {"end": "00:31:06", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "the region who are accustomed to the"}, {"end": "00:31:09", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "continuous warfare of Israel. They can"}, {"end": "00:31:11", "start": "00:31:06", "text": "receive more punishment and demonstrate"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:09", "text": "steadfastness where Israel Israelis are"}, {"end": "00:31:15", "start": "00:31:11", "text": "accustomed to this kind of colonial"}, {"end": "00:31:17", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "existence and waging one-way wars of"}, {"end": "00:31:19", "start": "00:31:15", "text": "extermination. And now Iran has shown"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:17", "text": "that their air defenses can be"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:19", "text": "penetrated and there's nothing beyond"}, {"end": "00:31:29", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "it. And Iran can potentially improve on"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "that. So I think Israel also wanted this"}, {"end": "00:31:35", "start": "00:31:29", "text": "ceasefire. Uh Israel was suffering. And"}, {"end": "00:31:38", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "all parties involved, the US, Israel and"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:35", "text": "Iran wanted this for their own reasons"}, {"end": "00:31:42", "start": "00:31:38", "text": "and are going to each claim victory for"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "their own reasons. But Israel is the one"}, {"end": "00:31:49", "start": "00:31:42", "text": "that will have to in order for its"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "survival initiate a new war."}, {"end": "00:31:54", "start": "00:31:49", "text": "Now, do you think that President Trump"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "may have given the United States an"}, {"end": "00:31:58", "start": "00:31:54", "text": "excuse, since we're using the F-word"}, {"end": "00:32:00", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "here, to f off? Can we just f off there"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:58", "text": "and let them handle it on their own? I"}, {"end": "00:32:04", "start": "00:32:00", "text": "mean, I know that's a bit of a pipe"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "dream, but you said that that Trump has"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:04", "text": "the ability to withdraw weapons and"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "support in a way that Biden never would."}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "We know that because Matthew Miller, the"}, {"end": "00:32:14", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "State Department, said we were going to"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "do whatever Netanyahu told us to do,"}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:14", "text": "full stop. So, is this too much of a"}, {"end": "00:32:22", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "dream that we just f off?"}, {"end": "00:32:25", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "Well, you know, I was in Iran just in in"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:22", "text": "May and I got to tour the aerospace park"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:25", "text": "where Iran's IRGC puts on display their"}, {"end": "00:32:34", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "ballistic missiles, their drone program,"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "which was mostly reverse engineered from"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:34", "text": "captured US and Israeli drones, their"}, {"end": "00:32:41", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "space program. They have a naent space"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "program and their air defense program."}, {"end": "00:32:45", "start": "00:32:41", "text": "And what astounded me was this is a"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "country that has been under harsh"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:45", "text": "sanctions since since 1979. Its economy"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "is completely cut off from the outside"}, {"end": "00:32:54", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "world. And even its regional neighbors"}, {"end": "00:32:57", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "refused to provide it with military"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:54", "text": "assistance. Everything there was"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:57", "text": "produced domestically using domestic"}, {"end": "00:33:05", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "knowhow, native knowhow. Whereas"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "Israel's weapon systems, including its"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:05", "text": "vaunted iron dome system, its arrow"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "system, relied on the US taxpayer to"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "fund them. And then throughout this war,"}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "Israel took for granted that the US"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "would send destroyers to the Red Sea in"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "the Mediterranean to knock down Iranian"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "ballistic missiles. That you, the US and"}, {"end": "00:33:28", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "their Jordanian vassels would be taking"}, {"end": "00:33:31", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "down Iranian ballistic missiles. And so"}, {"end": "00:33:34", "start": "00:33:28", "text": "the US was involved from the beginning"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:31", "text": "directly in this war just in a quote"}, {"end": "00:33:39", "start": "00:33:34", "text": "unquote defensive capacity and only got"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "involved offensively after Trump"}, {"end": "00:33:45", "start": "00:33:39", "text": "violated the will of the American public"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "and his base in order to strike Iran on"}, {"end": "00:33:50", "start": "00:33:45", "text": "behalf of Israel. So, it's obvious that"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "Israel, the so-called Jewish state,"}, {"end": "00:33:55", "start": "00:33:50", "text": "cannot survive a second without the"}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "protection and funding of whatever"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:55", "text": "gentile authority is in Washington. As"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "soon as, actually, Israel's foreign"}, {"end": "00:34:06", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "minister Gideon Sar said this about a"}, {"end": "00:34:08", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "month ago. If US weapons shipments are"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:06", "text": "suspended, Israel will collapse and"}, {"end": "00:34:13", "start": "00:34:08", "text": "cease to survive. So, that's how tenuous"}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "Israel's colonial existence is. whereas"}, {"end": "00:34:18", "start": "00:34:13", "text": "Iran has demonstrated it can survive"}, {"end": "00:34:21", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "virtually alone and still maintain"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:18", "text": "status as a kind of regional power. So,"}, {"end": "00:34:25", "start": "00:34:21", "text": "Israel's in a race against time right"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "now and that's why I think they're going"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "to seek to reinitiate another conflict"}, {"end": "00:34:33", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "with Iran."}, {"end": "00:34:35", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "Max Blumenthal, head of the gray zone."}, {"end": "00:34:37", "start": "00:34:33", "text": "Always great to see you, Max. Thank you"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:35", "text": "so much as always. Thanks for having me"}, {"end": "00:34:40", "start": "00:34:37", "text": "on. Thanks for your work. Thanks, Max."}, {"end": "00:34:42", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "Appreciate it. All right, if we could"}, {"end": "00:34:44", "start": "00:34:40", "text": "just put up this screen, uh, this Times"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:42", "text": "of Israel, this is how this is being"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:44", "text": "reported in the Israeli press about"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "President Trump's tirade. It's very"}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "much, \"Mommy, he yelled at me.\" Not,"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "\"Yes, we violated the ceasefire. We"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "should not have done that. It's we're"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "going to tell the world we got we got"}, {"end": "00:35:02", "start": "00:34:56", "text": "scolded.\" Yeah. But no"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "self-reflection there, like maybe we"}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:02", "text": "should stop it. Maybe there was a"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "ceasefire in place. Maybe we should not"}, {"end": "00:35:11", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "do that, right? Um, so again, if past"}, {"end": "00:35:13", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "his prologue, the ceasefire will not"}, {"end": "00:35:14", "start": "00:35:11", "text": "hold uh no matter how much we want it"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "to. A lot of people in the chat saying,"}, {"end": "00:35:20", "start": "00:35:14", "text": "uh, yeah, Max is Yeah. very very smart."}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "Very, very smart. It's a one of the best"}, {"end": "00:35:22", "start": "00:35:20", "text": "intellects on this. And people are"}, {"end": "00:35:25", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "wondering, they're like, why why is he"}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:22", "text": "anti-Semitic? Uh, Max is Jewish, by the"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:25", "text": "way. Yes. And, uh, a lot of a lot of"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "American Jews don't like being thrown"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "into like this Israel bag, like, oh, you"}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "have to somehow support Israel. like"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "they they they can't stand that. Um so"}, {"end": "00:35:44", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "yes. Okay. Well, we're going to move on."}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "Uh we're going to talk about Trump's uh"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:44", "text": "appearance at NATO this week and how"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "he's telling Europe, \"We are tired of"}, {"end": "00:35:52", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "supporting your lifestyle. You have to"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "pay up.\" Now, European leaders think"}, {"end": "00:35:57", "start": "00:35:52", "text": "that they can do these sort of"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "bookkeeping type uh fake outs of Trump"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:57", "text": "with their budget. Is he going to"}, {"end": "00:36:02", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "respond to this? Is he's going to see"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "right through it? 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So,"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "if you've been like, \"Oh, I could never"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "do a fast.\" Well, now you can. So, give"}, {"end": "00:38:18", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "it a shot. All right. All right. Well,"}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "this is how President Trump showed up at"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:18", "text": "the NATO summit today, letting everyone"}, {"end": "00:38:26", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "know what his priorities are. Here he"}, {"end": "00:38:28", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "steps off the plane in Europe and he"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:26", "text": "puts on his USA hat. This is how he's"}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:28", "text": "going to meet with NATO leaders to tell"}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "them, \"We are not paying for your"}, {"end": "00:38:38", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "security anymore. We want you to pay up"}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "or else.\" I'm not quite sure what that"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:38", "text": "or else means. I hope it's big. I hope"}, {"end": "00:38:45", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "it closes closes down NATO altogether. I"}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "I really do want that, but I've been"}, {"end": "00:38:48", "start": "00:38:45", "text": "wanting that for a long time. And as a"}, {"end": "00:38:50", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "parent, I don't like empty threats. If"}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:48", "text": "you say you're going to take away the"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:50", "text": "screen time, you got to. Am I right?"}, {"end": "00:38:56", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "Well, in fact, the president is"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "reportedly not even going to go to the"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:56", "text": "NATO meetings, but just show up at the"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:58", "text": "dinners and then let the rest of them"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "kind of come to him. Now, the president"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "and the vice president have been telling"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "NATO members that they need to commit to"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "spending 5% of their country's GDP to"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:09", "text": "NATO. and we want to see you put your"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "money where your mouth is. But NATO"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "leaders are trying to be super shady"}, {"end": "00:39:21", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "about this. And I hope that the"}, {"end": "00:39:23", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "president can see right through this."}, {"end": "00:39:25", "start": "00:39:21", "text": "Now, the president posted this on Truth"}, {"end": "00:39:28", "start": "00:39:23", "text": "Social today after Spain said that they"}, {"end": "00:39:31", "start": "00:39:25", "text": "would only pay 2.5%"}, {"end": "00:39:33", "start": "00:39:28", "text": "into NATO. This chart shows how little"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:31", "text": "everyone else spends compared to the US."}, {"end": "00:39:39", "start": "00:39:33", "text": "Very few of them even hit 2%. How did"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "Poland get so screwed to be spending so"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:39", "text": "much all along when the rest of them are"}, {"end": "00:39:45", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "just kind of flying under the radar, not"}, {"end": "00:39:48", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "paying their fair share? Why don't they"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:45", "text": "get the youngest child deal? I wonder."}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:48", "text": "The UK says that they will increase"}, {"end": "00:39:54", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "their NATO spending, but they're doing"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "it just with tricky bookkeeping. They're"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:54", "text": "not actually going to commit more"}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "defense. What they're doing is called"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "smoke and mirrors. According to the"}, {"end": "00:40:05", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "Telegraph, they're not actually going to"}, {"end": "00:40:08", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "put any new money in. What Carmer is"}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:05", "text": "doing is counting old infrastructure"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:08", "text": "projects and calling them new defense"}, {"end": "00:40:18", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "spending, which is a ruse. So if you are"}, {"end": "00:40:21", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "buying this BS line that the UK needs"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:18", "text": "more defense and will spend more, you're"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:21", "text": "going to get nothing for that except for"}, {"end": "00:40:29", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "old projects. It's a journal entry."}, {"end": "00:40:31", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "They're not actually going to spend more"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:29", "text": "money. Uh opponents of this say you"}, {"end": "00:40:37", "start": "00:40:31", "text": "can't stop missiles with spreadsheets."}, {"end": "00:40:39", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "You're not actually doing anything new."}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:37", "text": "Do you think President Trump will not"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:39", "text": "see right through this? Like, oh yeah,"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "we're going to basically someone says,"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "\"Well, how much are you spending on your"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "kids' tuition?\" And you're like, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "I bought them school clothes last last"}, {"end": "00:40:52", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "year, so does that count? That counts"}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "into what I'm committing?\" Absolutely"}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:52", "text": "not. Spain says they're not going to"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "come up to this 5% full stop. They say"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "that NATO's pledge allows each country"}, {"end": "00:41:07", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "level flexibility. So they say our level"}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "is 2.1%. That's what we want to pay and"}, {"end": "00:41:11", "start": "00:41:07", "text": "that's what we're sticking with. Now,"}, {"end": "00:41:14", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "what they say is that they can't afford"}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:11", "text": "more defense because it would cause them"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:14", "text": "to cut social programs,"}, {"end": "00:41:22", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "which should piss you as an American"}, {"end": "00:41:23", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "right off because what they get in"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:22", "text": "Spain, they're saying, \"We want to keep"}, {"end": "00:41:30", "start": "00:41:23", "text": "giving our people free healthcare, early"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "retirement, 35-hour work week.\""}, {"end": "00:41:34", "start": "00:41:30", "text": "Americans don't get that. We want to"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "keep doing that, which means we can't"}, {"end": "00:41:40", "start": "00:41:34", "text": "pay into our defense. So we as Americans"}, {"end": "00:41:43", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "will keep paying for their military and"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:40", "text": "they will keep having a cushy life. Now"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:43", "text": "I feel this acutely having lived for 5"}, {"end": "00:41:51", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "years on the Iberian Peninsula treating"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "like this go American. We get"}, {"end": "00:41:56", "start": "00:41:51", "text": "disrespected but our tax dollars"}, {"end": "00:41:58", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "subsidize their good lifestyle like we"}, {"end": "00:42:00", "start": "00:41:56", "text": "as Americans don't know the good life."}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:58", "text": "Well no because we work harder to"}, {"end": "00:42:04", "start": "00:42:00", "text": "support your good life. Uh Michael"}, {"end": "00:42:09", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "Shelonburgger put it this way recently"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:04", "text": "and I feel this in my bones. Watch. We"}, {"end": "00:42:13", "start": "00:42:09", "text": "go to Europe. You have universal"}, {"end": "00:42:15", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "healthcare. You work 35 hours a week."}, {"end": "00:42:17", "start": "00:42:13", "text": "You retire at a young age. You don't"}, {"end": "00:42:19", "start": "00:42:15", "text": "work nearly as hard as we do in the"}, {"end": "00:42:21", "start": "00:42:17", "text": "United States. You have many more"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:19", "text": "benefits in large part because we pay"}, {"end": "00:42:24", "start": "00:42:21", "text": "for all of your security or a large part"}, {"end": "00:42:27", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "of it."}, {"end": "00:42:29", "start": "00:42:24", "text": "And in return, we just get disrespect,"}, {"end": "00:42:31", "start": "00:42:27", "text": "entitlement, like we're like your"}, {"end": "00:42:34", "start": "00:42:29", "text": "children and we're this is a"}, {"end": "00:42:38", "start": "00:42:31", "text": "dysfunctional relationship. It needs to"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:34", "text": "end. It needs to change."}, {"end": "00:42:43", "start": "00:42:38", "text": "Okay. So, is this summit where President"}, {"end": "00:42:45", "start": "00:42:40", "text": "Trump makes this change and says to"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:43", "text": "Europeans, you don't get this kush life"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:45", "text": "because we pay your military anymore? Is"}, {"end": "00:42:53", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "or will he be hoodwinkedked by these"}, {"end": "00:42:54", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "journal entry type things? Now, here's"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:53", "text": "how these spoiled brats are going to try"}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:54", "text": "to convince the president that our"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "support is absolutely necessary. It's"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "war emergency. NATO leader Mark Rut"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "keeps screaming that the Russians are"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "coming, but he can't exactly say why or"}, {"end": "00:43:11", "start": "00:43:07", "text": "when. Here is today EU Commissioner"}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "Ursula Vanderion saying that they are"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:11", "text": "already at war with Russia. So, that's"}, {"end": "00:43:19", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "why it's absolutely necessary to beef up"}, {"end": "00:43:23", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "all of their military spending on our"}, {"end": "00:43:25", "start": "00:43:19", "text": "dollar. Here is her absolute lying ugly"}, {"end": "00:43:28", "start": "00:43:23", "text": "face. Watch."}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:25", "text": "You're adapting to the new reality of a"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:28", "text": "fullscale war right here on European"}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "soil."}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "And just like your industry,"}, {"end": "00:43:42", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "all of Europe is facing a changing inter"}, {"end": "00:43:45", "start": "00:43:39", "text": "international landscape."}, {"end": "00:43:46", "start": "00:43:42", "text": "But in recent months, Europe has taken"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:45", "text": "action."}, {"end": "00:43:52", "start": "00:43:46", "text": "action that seemed unthinkable just a"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "year ago. We set up the Rearm Europe"}, {"end": "00:43:58", "start": "00:43:52", "text": "plan to mobilize indeed 650 billion"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "euros in defense investment over the"}, {"end": "00:44:04", "start": "00:43:58", "text": "next four years. We must build more"}, {"end": "00:44:06", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "bridges between civilian and military."}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:04", "text": "We know that Russia will be capable of"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:06", "text": "testing our mutual defense commitments"}, {"end": "00:44:15", "start": "00:44:08", "text": "within the next five years. I thank you"}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:13", "text": "for this opportunity to engage with you."}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:15", "text": "Long live Europe and thank you very"}, {"end": "00:44:20", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "much."}, {"end": "00:44:22", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "I mean, I I'm just telling you, Russia"}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:20", "text": "is coming for you in the next five"}, {"end": "00:44:26", "start": "00:44:22", "text": "years. Thanks everybody. This has been"}, {"end": "00:44:27", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "great. And I'm so glad to see all of my"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "European allies here who are getting"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:27", "text": "ready for Putin's invasion of Europe."}, {"end": "00:44:33", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "So, as one douchebag in the chat just"}, {"end": "00:44:36", "start": "00:44:31", "text": "said, he's like, uh, you know, uh,"}, {"end": "00:44:39", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "redacted is just is paid propaganda by"}, {"end": "00:44:42", "start": "00:44:36", "text": "by Putin, Russian Russian propagandists."}, {"end": "00:44:44", "start": "00:44:39", "text": "Yeah. Okay. That wor that might have"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:42", "text": "worked like three years ago."}, {"end": "00:44:48", "start": "00:44:44", "text": "So stupid. I'm not even going to be"}, {"end": "00:44:51", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "bothered with that."}, {"end": "00:44:54", "start": "00:44:48", "text": "Uh yeah. Um she's obviously lying."}, {"end": "00:44:56", "start": "00:44:51", "text": "Russian state media has put a limit on"}, {"end": "00:44:59", "start": "00:44:54", "text": "where this war ends. We've gone over"}, {"end": "00:45:02", "start": "00:44:56", "text": "this and over it and over again. You can"}, {"end": "00:45:06", "start": "00:44:59", "text": "refuse to see it if you want, but Raia's"}, {"end": "00:45:08", "start": "00:45:02", "text": "state media defines the war on that map"}, {"end": "00:45:10", "start": "00:45:06", "text": "right there. The dark gray is where this"}, {"end": "00:45:12", "start": "00:45:08", "text": "ends. They've never said they wanted the"}, {"end": "00:45:15", "start": "00:45:10", "text": "rest of Ukraine. They never said they"}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:12", "text": "wanted Europe. Why the heck would Russia"}, {"end": "00:45:20", "start": "00:45:15", "text": "want the these countries full of spoiled"}, {"end": "00:45:23", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "brats? I'm not saying you Europeans, you"}, {"end": "00:45:26", "start": "00:45:20", "text": "have no power. Europeans themselves,"}, {"end": "00:45:27", "start": "00:45:23", "text": "lovely people, they have no power. Their"}, {"end": "00:45:29", "start": "00:45:26", "text": "government has a government that makes"}, {"end": "00:45:31", "start": "00:45:27", "text": "decisions to"}, {"end": "00:45:33", "start": "00:45:29", "text": "basically make their lives miserable."}, {"end": "00:45:34", "start": "00:45:31", "text": "You know it and I know it. No European"}, {"end": "00:45:37", "start": "00:45:33", "text": "thinks the EU makes their lives better."}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:34", "text": "I don't know anyone who would. Okay. And"}, {"end": "00:45:42", "start": "00:45:37", "text": "then speaking of spoiled brats, again,"}, {"end": "00:45:45", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "not Europeans, European leaders, uh,"}, {"end": "00:45:48", "start": "00:45:42", "text": "Zalinski is not going to be in the NATO"}, {"end": "00:45:51", "start": "00:45:45", "text": "summit meetings, but he does get to go"}, {"end": "00:45:54", "start": "00:45:48", "text": "to the dinner and pose for photo ops."}, {"end": "00:45:56", "start": "00:45:51", "text": "What he's saying here basically is a lot"}, {"end": "00:45:58", "start": "00:45:54", "text": "of crap. NATO's still behind him. We're"}, {"end": "00:46:00", "start": "00:45:56", "text": "still going to sanction Russia, blah,"}, {"end": "00:46:02", "start": "00:45:58", "text": "blah, blah. I mean, he's not even really"}, {"end": "00:46:03", "start": "00:46:00", "text": "in the room where it happened. He's just"}, {"end": "00:46:06", "start": "00:46:02", "text": "literally like waiting in the hallway"}, {"end": "00:46:08", "start": "00:46:03", "text": "for his photo op. says some strong"}, {"end": "00:46:10", "start": "00:46:06", "text": "things about Russia and then he's out."}, {"end": "00:46:12", "start": "00:46:08", "text": "Um, and on the plane to this NATO"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:10", "text": "summit, President Trump was asked if"}, {"end": "00:46:15", "start": "00:46:12", "text": "he's still trying to broker a deal"}, {"end": "00:46:18", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "between Russia and Ukraine. He said"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:15", "text": "absolutely yes. I would like Putin to"}, {"end": "00:46:21", "start": "00:46:18", "text": "come to the negotiation table. He says,"}, {"end": "00:46:23", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "you know, Putin called to see if I'd"}, {"end": "00:46:25", "start": "00:46:21", "text": "like help with Iran. And I was like, no,"}, {"end": "00:46:28", "start": "00:46:23", "text": "I got it. Don't need your help there,"}, {"end": "00:46:31", "start": "00:46:25", "text": "but I need you to, you know, get a deal"}, {"end": "00:46:32", "start": "00:46:28", "text": "done with Ukraine. So, Zalinski who? So"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:31", "text": "again, we're going to see a lot more"}, {"end": "00:46:37", "start": "00:46:32", "text": "posturing and dumb stuff out of this"}, {"end": "00:46:40", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "NATO summit. We hope though that"}, {"end": "00:46:42", "start": "00:46:37", "text": "President Trump shows off up with that"}, {"end": "00:46:45", "start": "00:46:40", "text": "boss energy and tells them, \"You need to"}, {"end": "00:46:46", "start": "00:46:42", "text": "pay up or we're out. Otherwise, you deal"}, {"end": "00:46:48", "start": "00:46:45", "text": "with this Russia stuff yourself.\" Also,"}, {"end": "00:46:51", "start": "00:46:46", "text": "Russia's not coming. Work yourself into"}, {"end": "00:46:52", "start": "00:46:48", "text": "a tizzy all you want. We're out. That's"}, {"end": "00:46:55", "start": "00:46:51", "text": "what I would like to see if the"}, {"end": "00:46:57", "start": "00:46:52", "text": "president is watching. Alberta Prepper"}, {"end": "00:46:59", "start": "00:46:55", "text": "in our chat room says, \"Canadians have"}, {"end": "00:47:01", "start": "00:46:57", "text": "wanted out of NATO and NORAD, but every"}, {"end": "00:47:03", "start": "00:46:59", "text": "time we voted to have a government take"}, {"end": "00:47:06", "start": "00:47:01", "text": "take us out.\" Nope. Not going to happen."}, {"end": "00:47:08", "start": "00:47:03", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Clown show."}, {"end": "00:47:11", "start": "00:47:06", "text": "Um Okay. Well, we've got more news to"}, {"end": "00:47:12", "start": "00:47:08", "text": "get to here on your What is today?"}, {"end": "00:47:15", "start": "00:47:11", "text": "Tuesday. Today's Tuesday. It's been a"}, {"end": "00:47:17", "start": "00:47:12", "text": "whirlwind this week, as you can imagine."}, {"end": "00:47:19", "start": "00:47:15", "text": "Um we are going to talk about uh what is"}, {"end": "00:47:21", "start": "00:47:17", "text": "happening next for the big beautiful"}, {"end": "00:47:22", "start": "00:47:19", "text": "bill. And Congressman Thomas Massie is"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:21", "text": "going to be joining us because he's been"}, {"end": "00:47:28", "start": "00:47:22", "text": "in a bit of a dust up, maybe putting it"}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:25", "text": "lightly, with President Trump over um"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:28", "text": "his unwillingness to budge on making our"}, {"end": "00:47:35", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "uh making our country further in debt."}, {"end": "00:47:37", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "Um but is this whole big beautiful bill"}, {"end": "00:47:39", "start": "00:47:35", "text": "going to be scuttled anyway? Uh we'll"}, {"end": "00:47:42", "start": "00:47:37", "text": "talk about that with Congressman Massie"}, {"end": "00:47:44", "start": "00:47:39", "text": "in just a moment. But first, we want to"}, {"end": "00:47:46", "start": "00:47:42", "text": "tell you about what's going on right now"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:44", "text": "with gold. what's not being said loud"}, {"end": "00:47:50", "start": "00:47:46", "text": "enough because war can wipe out your"}, {"end": "00:47:52", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "financial future as well. Right now the"}, {"end": "00:47:54", "start": "00:47:50", "text": "US is on a dangerous path, record"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:52", "text": "spending, endless global conflict."}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:54", "text": "Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Iran, all of it"}, {"end": "00:48:01", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "fueled by borrowing from a government"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "printing press that's running on fumes"}, {"end": "00:48:05", "start": "00:48:01", "text": "right now. Congressman Massie knows it"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:03", "text": "well. He wears a freaking debt badge"}, {"end": "00:48:09", "start": "00:48:05", "text": "that's like a electronic debt badge on"}, {"end": "00:48:12", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "his shirt showing just how deeply we are"}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:09", "text": "in debt. The $36 trillion that the US"}, {"end": "00:48:16", "start": "00:48:12", "text": "dollar that we are now in debt. But"}, {"end": "00:48:18", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "that's even not even the full story. Um,"}, {"end": "00:48:19", "start": "00:48:16", "text": "war is brutally expensive. Makes makes"}, {"end": "00:48:21", "start": "00:48:18", "text": "them a lot of money. The"}, {"end": "00:48:23", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "military-industrial complex. So, here's"}, {"end": "00:48:25", "start": "00:48:21", "text": "what you need to be watching right now."}, {"end": "00:48:28", "start": "00:48:23", "text": "The US debt, it's accelerating out of"}, {"end": "00:48:30", "start": "00:48:25", "text": "control. The dollar losing value. The"}, {"end": "00:48:32", "start": "00:48:28", "text": "BRICS nations. You saw President Putin"}, {"end": "00:48:33", "start": "00:48:30", "text": "last week talking about all of the"}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:32", "text": "transactions that have been carried out"}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:33", "text": "among the BRICS nations now totaling"}, {"end": "00:48:40", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "over a trillion dollars. Like bricks is"}, {"end": "00:48:42", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "on the rise. The reverse of the US"}, {"end": "00:48:45", "start": "00:48:40", "text": "dollar is happening. But gold and"}, {"end": "00:48:47", "start": "00:48:42", "text": "silver, they are rising for a reason."}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:45", "text": "Congressman Ron Paul likes to say on our"}, {"end": "00:48:50", "start": "00:48:47", "text": "show, you know, the value of purchasing"}, {"end": "00:48:52", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "and making sure you have gold. You can"}, {"end": "00:48:53", "start": "00:48:50", "text": "never go wrong with having gold. You can"}, {"end": "00:48:55", "start": "00:48:52", "text": "never go wrong with having silver."}, {"end": "00:48:59", "start": "00:48:53", "text": "Goldman Sachs is already predicting gold"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:55", "text": "could hit $4,500 an ounce by 2026. Why?"}, {"end": "00:49:02", "start": "00:48:59", "text": "Because smart money is moving right now."}, {"end": "00:49:05", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "Central banks, billionaires,"}, {"end": "00:49:06", "start": "00:49:02", "text": "institutional investors, all investing."}, {"end": "00:49:08", "start": "00:49:05", "text": "And so, it's your turn right now to act"}, {"end": "00:49:10", "start": "00:49:06", "text": "on this. Give our friends at Lear"}, {"end": "00:49:12", "start": "00:49:08", "text": "Capital a phone call. Here's their 800"}, {"end": "00:49:14", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "number on your screen. They can help you"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "invest in gold by going to call them"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "1-8006133557."}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:18", "text": "Um, we started investing in gold and"}, {"end": "00:49:24", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "silver years ago, Natalie and I did."}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "It's been one of the smartest moves um"}, {"end": "00:49:29", "start": "00:49:24", "text": "and secure moves that we've ever made"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "for our family. Even our kids have"}, {"end": "00:49:32", "start": "00:49:29", "text": "holdings. This isn't a trend. It's a"}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "shift right now. And you can actually do"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:32", "text": "it as well. So, give them a call. Just"}, {"end": "00:49:37", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "talk on the phone with them. They're an"}, {"end": "00:49:39", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "American company. They'll have a"}, {"end": "00:49:42", "start": "00:49:37", "text": "conversation with you. No pressure. 1"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:39", "text": "800613-33557"}, {"end": "00:49:45", "start": "00:49:42", "text": "and see if it's right for you and your"}, {"end": "00:49:47", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "family. You know, do you want to invest"}, {"end": "00:49:48", "start": "00:49:45", "text": "in the stock market? You want to put"}, {"end": "00:49:50", "start": "00:49:47", "text": "your family's future there? Do you want"}, {"end": "00:49:51", "start": "00:49:48", "text": "to invest in US dollars? Put your"}, {"end": "00:49:54", "start": "00:49:50", "text": "family's future there. Or do you want to"}, {"end": "00:49:56", "start": "00:49:51", "text": "pre uh invest in something tangible like"}, {"end": "00:49:58", "start": "00:49:54", "text": "gold, silver, and even real estate, you"}, {"end": "00:49:59", "start": "00:49:56", "text": "can do that if you have a self-directed"}, {"end": "00:50:01", "start": "00:49:58", "text": "IRA, and they can actually walk you"}, {"end": "00:50:03", "start": "00:49:59", "text": "through and help you with that. Um, just"}, {"end": "00:50:07", "start": "00:50:01", "text": "go to leerredacted.com or call their 800"}, {"end": "00:50:10", "start": "00:50:03", "text": "number 1 8006133557."}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:07", "text": "and 1 800 6133557."}, {"end": "00:50:16", "start": "00:50:10", "text": "That is the place to go."}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "All right. We all good? Yeah, we're"}, {"end": "00:50:22", "start": "00:50:16", "text": "doing all right. We're good. All right."}, {"end": "00:50:24", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "So, back in 2022, President Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:50:27", "start": "00:50:22", "text": "um at the time issued an endorsement of"}, {"end": "00:50:28", "start": "00:50:24", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie. Here it was."}, {"end": "00:50:31", "start": "00:50:27", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie is a"}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:28", "text": "conservative warrior for Kucky's fourth"}, {"end": "00:50:36", "start": "00:50:31", "text": "congressional district. An MIT graduate"}, {"end": "00:50:39", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "and a first rate defender of the"}, {"end": "00:50:41", "start": "00:50:36", "text": "Constitution, Thomas fights hard to"}, {"end": "00:50:43", "start": "00:50:39", "text": "protect your liberties, especially the"}, {"end": "00:50:46", "start": "00:50:41", "text": "First and Second Amendments, which are"}, {"end": "00:50:48", "start": "00:50:43", "text": "under siege by the radical left. Strong"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:46", "text": "on the border and our military and"}, {"end": "00:50:53", "start": "00:50:48", "text": "veterans, Thomas Massie has my complete"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "and total endorsement. Well, then this"}, {"end": "00:51:00", "start": "00:50:53", "text": "weekend, this happened. President Donald"}, {"end": "00:51:02", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "Trump posting this spanking news."}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:51:00", "text": "This is like a book. Yeah. That he wrote"}, {"end": "00:51:05", "start": "00:51:02", "text": "here. Holy smokes. I'll just read the"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "first few sentences. Congressman Thomas"}, {"end": "00:51:11", "start": "00:51:05", "text": "Massie of Kentucky is not MAGA. Even"}, {"end": "00:51:14", "start": "00:51:08", "text": "though he likes to say he is. Actually,"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:11", "text": "MAGA doesn't want him, doesn't know him,"}, {"end": "00:51:19", "start": "00:51:14", "text": "and doesn't respect him. He's a negative"}, {"end": "00:51:22", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "force who almost always votes no, no"}, {"end": "00:51:24", "start": "00:51:19", "text": "matter how good something may be."}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:22", "text": "Congressman Thomas Massie voted today to"}, {"end": "00:51:29", "start": "00:51:24", "text": "join redacted. See, he votes yes"}, {"end": "00:51:31", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "sometimes on things that he cares about"}, {"end": "00:51:34", "start": "00:51:29", "text": "and he joins us now. Congressman, good"}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:31", "text": "to see you. Oh, it's good to see you,"}, {"end": "00:51:40", "start": "00:51:34", "text": "Clayton. Um, listen, I I retweeted"}, {"end": "00:51:42", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "Trump's diet tribe there and I said, you"}, {"end": "00:51:45", "start": "00:51:40", "text": "know, the president has declared so much"}, {"end": "00:51:48", "start": "00:51:42", "text": "war on me today that I think he needs an"}, {"end": "00:51:49", "start": "00:51:45", "text": "act of Congress for this."}, {"end": "00:51:52", "start": "00:51:48", "text": "Right."}, {"end": "00:51:54", "start": "00:51:49", "text": "The Babylon B take on it was that Trump"}, {"end": "00:51:55", "start": "00:51:52", "text": "declared that you are close to having a"}, {"end": "00:51:58", "start": "00:51:54", "text": "nuclear weapon. I know you're a"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:55", "text": "homesteader. How did you enrich all that"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:58", "text": "in uranium while you're tending to your"}, {"end": "00:52:05", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "fruit trees? Yeah. You know, um if I had"}, {"end": "00:52:07", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "uranium on my farm, I would probably"}, {"end": "00:52:09", "start": "00:52:05", "text": "figure out a way to enrich it and have"}, {"end": "00:52:11", "start": "00:52:07", "text": "some kind of fusion reactor, not vision"}, {"end": "00:52:13", "start": "00:52:09", "text": "reactor, and we would be making free"}, {"end": "00:52:17", "start": "00:52:11", "text": "energy. But as it were, I have to have"}, {"end": "00:52:19", "start": "00:52:13", "text": "solar panels and heat with wood."}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:17", "text": "I you know I was I was sitting there I"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:19", "text": "was sitting there with uh with Tucker"}, {"end": "00:52:25", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "Carlson the other day and when this"}, {"end": "00:52:27", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "attack kind of happened and I I I you"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:25", "text": "know became enraged about it. This idea"}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:27", "text": "that you're you're unAmerican, you're"}, {"end": "00:52:32", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "unpatriotic,"}, {"end": "00:52:34", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "uh that you're not MAGA, you're not make"}, {"end": "00:52:36", "start": "00:52:32", "text": "America great again. I just I couldn't"}, {"end": "00:52:38", "start": "00:52:34", "text": "wrap my head around it given the fact"}, {"end": "00:52:40", "start": "00:52:36", "text": "that he's endorsed you calling exactly"}, {"end": "00:52:42", "start": "00:52:38", "text": "that. So I mean I know we're joking"}, {"end": "00:52:44", "start": "00:52:40", "text": "about it but at the heart of it it's"}, {"end": "00:52:47", "start": "00:52:42", "text": "just it's is it is it is it true you're"}, {"end": "00:52:49", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "you're unAmerican? You're unpatriotic."}, {"end": "00:52:52", "start": "00:52:47", "text": "No, I think I'm the first America first"}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:49", "text": "congressman there is, the original one."}, {"end": "00:52:57", "start": "00:52:52", "text": "Look, I'm against the next war already."}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "I don't want an a war in Eastern Europe."}, {"end": "00:53:01", "start": "00:52:57", "text": "I don't want a war in the Middle East."}, {"end": "00:53:04", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "And that's part of what we all signed up"}, {"end": "00:53:07", "start": "00:53:01", "text": "for when we voted for Trump. I endorsed"}, {"end": "00:53:09", "start": "00:53:04", "text": "President Trump uh before the election"}, {"end": "00:53:11", "start": "00:53:07", "text": "be even after campaigning for Ronda"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:09", "text": "Santis because I didn't want another war"}, {"end": "00:53:16", "start": "00:53:11", "text": "and I thought President Trump wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "get us into another war. It's it's hard"}, {"end": "00:53:21", "start": "00:53:16", "text": "to say what will happen here in the"}, {"end": "00:53:24", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "Middle East. You know, the the uh three"}, {"end": "00:53:28", "start": "00:53:21", "text": "bombing sites to end Iran's nuclear"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:24", "text": "aspirations might be the 2025 version of"}, {"end": "00:53:32", "start": "00:53:28", "text": "two weeks to slow the spread. You know,"}, {"end": "00:53:35", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "we were going to have 14 weeks to slow"}, {"end": "00:53:37", "start": "00:53:32", "text": "the spread. we had a 12-day war. Um,"}, {"end": "00:53:40", "start": "00:53:35", "text": "those are eerily the same number of"}, {"end": "00:53:44", "start": "00:53:37", "text": "days. I hope it's true this time that"}, {"end": "00:53:47", "start": "00:53:40", "text": "it's it ends after 12 days. But when it"}, {"end": "00:53:49", "start": "00:53:44", "text": "comes to MAGA, u, I think at its base,"}, {"end": "00:53:52", "start": "00:53:47", "text": "it's putting America first. Let's take"}, {"end": "00:53:55", "start": "00:53:49", "text": "care of our own infrastructure, our"}, {"end": "00:53:58", "start": "00:53:52", "text": "veterans. Let's protect our own borders."}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:55", "text": "um let's do the things that we need to"}, {"end": "00:54:03", "start": "00:53:58", "text": "create jobs in a prosperous economy here"}, {"end": "00:54:07", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "at home before we go looking overseas"}, {"end": "00:54:09", "start": "00:54:03", "text": "for dragons to slay. And so I I think it"}, {"end": "00:54:12", "start": "00:54:07", "text": "may be the president who's strayed from"}, {"end": "00:54:15", "start": "00:54:09", "text": "that message and not me in this"}, {"end": "00:54:18", "start": "00:54:12", "text": "instance. Also, he's a little bit upset"}, {"end": "00:54:21", "start": "00:54:15", "text": "I think about the uh my no vote on the"}, {"end": "00:54:23", "start": "00:54:18", "text": "big beautiful bill. But again, that's"}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:21", "text": "where I promised that I wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:23", "text": "increase our debt, that we would find"}, {"end": "00:54:31", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "responsible ways to fund the government."}, {"end": "00:54:33", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "You know, I've joked that I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:31", "text": "um reprogram my debt ticker here that I"}, {"end": "00:54:37", "start": "00:54:33", "text": "wear all the time to be the number of"}, {"end": "00:54:41", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "milliseconds since the president has"}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:37", "text": "tweeted about me. And after I made that"}, {"end": "00:54:47", "start": "00:54:41", "text": "joke, it wasn't 12 hours later, he"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "tweeted about me again. And uh you know"}, {"end": "00:54:54", "start": "00:54:47", "text": "I think the reason he's concerned about"}, {"end": "00:54:56", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "me is uh twofold. Number one, I am"}, {"end": "00:54:58", "start": "00:54:54", "text": "speaking the truth. I am telling you"}, {"end": "00:55:00", "start": "00:54:56", "text": "what's in the big beautiful bill that"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:58", "text": "other people won't tell you. I am"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:00", "text": "telling you what this engagement in Iran"}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "could lead to. But number two, I'm the"}, {"end": "00:55:10", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "horse that's not in the barn. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:55:12", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "controlled. I'm not controlled by the"}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:10", "text": "Republican party. I'm not controlled by"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:12", "text": "any president. I never have been. I work"}, {"end": "00:55:21", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "for 750,000 people in northern Kentucky"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "and I think I'm the horse that's getting"}, {"end": "00:55:26", "start": "00:55:21", "text": "flogged so that all the other horses"}, {"end": "00:55:29", "start": "00:55:24", "text": "will stay in the barn. And when I walked"}, {"end": "00:55:31", "start": "00:55:26", "text": "on the floor of the house today to vote,"}, {"end": "00:55:34", "start": "00:55:29", "text": "everybody was like looking at me"}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:31", "text": "surprised that I still had some hide on"}, {"end": "00:55:39", "start": "00:55:34", "text": "my back uh after the flogging. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:55:40", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "like, \"No, guys, hop on in. The water's"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:39", "text": "fine.\""}, {"end": "00:55:46", "start": "00:55:40", "text": "So So will this big, beautiful bill"}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "pass? Do you think it's going to pass in"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:46", "text": "in any kind of its current state at all?"}, {"end": "00:55:53", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "And do you think maybe your message has"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "resonated with the Senate?"}, {"end": "00:55:57", "start": "00:55:53", "text": "Well, you know, there are a lot of"}, {"end": "00:55:59", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "senators who are upset with the changes."}, {"end": "00:56:01", "start": "00:55:57", "text": "The bill has gotten watered down. If"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:55:59", "text": "you're conservative, it didn't get"}, {"end": "00:56:05", "start": "00:56:01", "text": "better. It got worse in the Senate in"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:03", "text": "some regards. It got better in one"}, {"end": "00:56:11", "start": "00:56:05", "text": "regard. I think they've reduced the the"}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "the bailout for those sanctuary cities"}, {"end": "00:56:15", "start": "00:56:11", "text": "and blue states called the salt"}, {"end": "00:56:18", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "deduction, which would allow you to"}, {"end": "00:56:21", "start": "00:56:15", "text": "write off state and local taxes if you"}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:18", "text": "live in a high tax state or locality."}, {"end": "00:56:27", "start": "00:56:21", "text": "That got better, but we're learning that"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "everything else is getting worse. Um"}, {"end": "00:56:30", "start": "00:56:27", "text": "there's a provision that was in this"}, {"end": "00:56:34", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "bill that I fought hard for called the"}, {"end": "00:56:36", "start": "00:56:30", "text": "Reigns Act. Uh and that started in our"}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:34", "text": "judiciary committee here in the house in"}, {"end": "00:56:40", "start": "00:56:36", "text": "the regulatory reform subcommittee which"}, {"end": "00:56:42", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "I used to chair. We got the Reigns Act"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:40", "text": "passed. We had a hearing on it. But the"}, {"end": "00:56:48", "start": "00:56:42", "text": "Reigns Act would say that if you have a"}, {"end": "00:56:51", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "regulation that is going to affect the"}, {"end": "00:56:53", "start": "00:56:48", "text": "economy then by more than several tens"}, {"end": "00:56:55", "start": "00:56:51", "text": "of millions of dollars, then it has to"}, {"end": "00:56:58", "start": "00:56:53", "text": "come back to Congress for a vote. You"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:55", "text": "can't do that by executive order or by"}, {"end": "00:57:03", "start": "00:56:58", "text": "administrative fiat. Well, we got a"}, {"end": "00:57:06", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "version of that in the House version of"}, {"end": "00:57:08", "start": "00:57:03", "text": "the a big beautiful bill, but it turns"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:06", "text": "out the Senate has stripped that out."}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:08", "text": "So, that's a bad thing. There may be"}, {"end": "00:57:14", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "other u good things that are getting"}, {"end": "00:57:16", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "stripped out in the Senate. We'll see. I"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "have said all along, Clayton, that if"}, {"end": "00:57:20", "start": "00:57:16", "text": "the bill gets better in the Senate, I'll"}, {"end": "00:57:22", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "consider voting for it, but I'm worried"}, {"end": "00:57:25", "start": "00:57:20", "text": "that it's not getting better. And"}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:22", "text": "ultimately, it's about the impact on our"}, {"end": "00:57:30", "start": "00:57:25", "text": "debt and our deficit. They say this"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "thing balances. It's further from"}, {"end": "00:57:35", "start": "00:57:30", "text": "balancing now after it goes through the"}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "Senate. And the only reason they can"}, {"end": "00:57:38", "start": "00:57:35", "text": "make it balance is they spend all the"}, {"end": "00:57:40", "start": "00:57:36", "text": "money in the first 5 years and promise"}, {"end": "00:57:42", "start": "00:57:38", "text": "to cut the spending 5 years from now"}, {"end": "00:57:45", "start": "00:57:40", "text": "when most of these people won't be here"}, {"end": "00:57:48", "start": "00:57:42", "text": "any longer. Now, I want to talk about"}, {"end": "00:57:51", "start": "00:57:45", "text": "this faction inside of party politics"}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:48", "text": "because studies show that the right has"}, {"end": "00:57:56", "start": "00:57:51", "text": "a wide diversity of thought or has in"}, {"end": "00:57:58", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "the last 5 years, whereas the left often"}, {"end": "00:58:01", "start": "00:57:56", "text": "moves in ideological lock step. But now"}, {"end": "00:58:04", "start": "00:57:58", "text": "we're seeing these purity tests on the"}, {"end": "00:58:06", "start": "00:58:01", "text": "right, which is real MAGA versus face"}, {"end": "00:58:09", "start": "00:58:04", "text": "fake MAGA. the White House posting trust"}, {"end": "00:58:13", "start": "00:58:06", "text": "President Trump. People who questioned"}, {"end": "00:58:15", "start": "00:58:09", "text": "rightly so the uh bombing raid in Iran"}, {"end": "00:58:17", "start": "00:58:13", "text": "were called panakans. Has the right"}, {"end": "00:58:19", "start": "00:58:15", "text": "forgotten that it's supposed to be the"}, {"end": "00:58:22", "start": "00:58:17", "text": "party of independent thinking that"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:19", "text": "that's what they prided themselves on"}, {"end": "00:58:28", "start": "00:58:22", "text": "during the pandemic? What's happening"}, {"end": "00:58:30", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "there? Is this tribalist test? How do"}, {"end": "00:58:33", "start": "00:58:28", "text": "you see this? Why is this playing out"}, {"end": "00:58:35", "start": "00:58:30", "text": "right now? Look, I think you've put your"}, {"end": "00:58:38", "start": "00:58:33", "text": "finger on it. This is exactly the issue."}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:35", "text": "Are are we a party of a of a personality"}, {"end": "00:58:44", "start": "00:58:38", "text": "or are we a party of ideas? And um I'm"}, {"end": "00:58:47", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "worried that it's a party of"}, {"end": "00:58:49", "start": "00:58:44", "text": "personality. The purity test now isn't"}, {"end": "00:58:51", "start": "00:58:47", "text": "are you for the same ideas that our"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:49", "text": "party is for or the same ideas that you"}, {"end": "00:58:56", "start": "00:58:51", "text": "campaigned on. The purity test now is"}, {"end": "00:59:00", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "will you rubber stamp whatever President"}, {"end": "00:59:03", "start": "00:58:56", "text": "Trump wants. Now, 85 or 90% of the time,"}, {"end": "00:59:05", "start": "00:59:00", "text": "I'm in agreement with President Trump"}, {"end": "00:59:07", "start": "00:59:03", "text": "because he's upholding the principles of"}, {"end": "00:59:10", "start": "00:59:05", "text": "the Republican party and those things"}, {"end": "00:59:12", "start": "00:59:07", "text": "that he campaigned on. But when he gets"}, {"end": "00:59:15", "start": "00:59:10", "text": "us involved in another war in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:59:17", "start": "00:59:12", "text": "East or when he increases the deficit,"}, {"end": "00:59:20", "start": "00:59:15", "text": "I'm sorry, that's not the that's not the"}, {"end": "00:59:22", "start": "00:59:17", "text": "program that I signed up for. So, you"}, {"end": "00:59:25", "start": "00:59:20", "text": "can be mad at me, but I think we need"}, {"end": "00:59:27", "start": "00:59:22", "text": "more voices in Congress. And frankly, a"}, {"end": "00:59:29", "start": "00:59:25", "text": "lot of these issues are not even issues"}, {"end": "00:59:32", "start": "00:59:27", "text": "the president cares about. He didn't"}, {"end": "00:59:35", "start": "00:59:29", "text": "necessarily campaign on reducing the"}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:32", "text": "debt or the deficit. He just wants to"}, {"end": "00:59:40", "start": "00:59:35", "text": "get a deal done. And right now within"}, {"end": "00:59:43", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "the Senate and the House, it's the big"}, {"end": "00:59:45", "start": "00:59:40", "text": "spenders who are ascendant. They are the"}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:43", "text": "ones who get to write the bill. And then"}, {"end": "00:59:48", "start": "00:59:45", "text": "the president is saying, \"All right,"}, {"end": "00:59:51", "start": "00:59:47", "text": "well, let's go with that because that's"}, {"end": "00:59:53", "start": "00:59:48", "text": "what they came up with.\" It's not the"}, {"end": "00:59:55", "start": "00:59:51", "text": "end of the world if this bill fails. If"}, {"end": "00:59:57", "start": "00:59:53", "text": "this bill fails, we go back to the"}, {"end": "00:59:59", "start": "00:59:55", "text": "drawing board and we write a better"}, {"end": "01:00:02", "start": "00:59:57", "text": "version of it. I think a more"}, {"end": "01:00:04", "start": "00:59:59", "text": "conservative version, a skinnier version"}, {"end": "01:00:06", "start": "01:00:02", "text": "of it, not a big giant bill that"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:04", "text": "combines everything together. But yeah,"}, {"end": "01:00:10", "start": "01:00:06", "text": "let's take care of the border. Let's"}, {"end": "01:00:13", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "extend those tax cuts that I voted for"}, {"end": "01:00:16", "start": "01:00:10", "text": "in 2017. And let's put the work"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:13", "text": "requirements in Medicaid. We can balance"}, {"end": "01:00:20", "start": "01:00:16", "text": "this budget with the and repeal the"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "Green New Deal. And we can balance this"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:20", "text": "budget and do some good things. We don't"}, {"end": "01:00:26", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "have to put all this other uh stuff in"}, {"end": "01:00:28", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "it. Congressman, we'll get you out of"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:26", "text": "here on this. We know you got to run,"}, {"end": "01:00:32", "start": "01:00:28", "text": "but uh President Trump at the NATO"}, {"end": "01:00:34", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "summit, getting off the airplane,"}, {"end": "01:00:36", "start": "01:00:32", "text": "putting on a USA hat, and we just did a"}, {"end": "01:00:38", "start": "01:00:34", "text": "whole segment that Natalie just did a"}, {"end": "01:00:40", "start": "01:00:36", "text": "moment ago about, you know, Europe seems"}, {"end": "01:00:42", "start": "01:00:38", "text": "to be gerting themselves for war, and"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:40", "text": "Ursula Ursula Leanderline is extremely"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:42", "text": "excited that her European allies are"}, {"end": "01:00:47", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "getting ready for Putin to invade the"}, {"end": "01:00:49", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "rest of Europe. They're on a war"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:47", "text": "footing. What do you hope the President"}, {"end": "01:00:53", "start": "01:00:49", "text": "Trump's message will be at NATO other"}, {"end": "01:00:55", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "than what my my dream would be is like,"}, {"end": "01:00:57", "start": "01:00:53", "text": "hey, I'm closing it down. We're done"}, {"end": "01:01:00", "start": "01:00:55", "text": "with NATO. But what what do you hope"}, {"end": "01:01:03", "start": "01:00:57", "text": "he'll say? Well, you know, NATO can keep"}, {"end": "01:01:05", "start": "01:01:00", "text": "going. We just don't need to be in it. I"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:01:03", "text": "I would hope he would say, \"You all are"}, {"end": "01:01:10", "start": "01:01:05", "text": "big boys now. You can defend yourselves."}, {"end": "01:01:12", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "We don't need to be involved in your"}, {"end": "01:01:14", "start": "01:01:10", "text": "wars. We don't need to be underwriting"}, {"end": "01:01:17", "start": "01:01:12", "text": "your socialism by defending your"}, {"end": "01:01:20", "start": "01:01:14", "text": "borders. And if you're going to get rid"}, {"end": "01:01:23", "start": "01:01:17", "text": "of all your coal powered plants and buy"}, {"end": "01:01:25", "start": "01:01:20", "text": "natural gas and oil from Putin, then"}, {"end": "01:01:28", "start": "01:01:23", "text": "that's on you, not us. That's what he"}, {"end": "01:01:31", "start": "01:01:25", "text": "should be saying to those folks in NATO."}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:28", "text": "But, you know, NATO is a cold war relic."}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:31", "text": "It doesn't need to exist anymore in the"}, {"end": "01:01:37", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "sense that exists now. You've got the"}, {"end": "01:01:40", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "European Union. Those folks can stick up"}, {"end": "01:01:43", "start": "01:01:37", "text": "for themselves. And Putin, I I've got no"}, {"end": "01:01:46", "start": "01:01:40", "text": "affinity for Putin. He's a Cold War"}, {"end": "01:01:49", "start": "01:01:43", "text": "relic, too, but he's popular in his own"}, {"end": "01:01:51", "start": "01:01:46", "text": "country because we keep pushing this"}, {"end": "01:01:53", "start": "01:01:49", "text": "other Cold War relic up against their"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:51", "text": "borders, and that's called NATO. Trump"}, {"end": "01:01:56", "start": "01:01:53", "text": "could should tell them, \"We're not"}, {"end": "01:01:59", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "going, the United States is not going to"}, {"end": "01:02:00", "start": "01:01:56", "text": "be in favor of expanding NATO.\" That's"}, {"end": "01:02:03", "start": "01:01:59", "text": "one of the things that triggered this"}, {"end": "01:02:06", "start": "01:02:00", "text": "war in Ukraine. So, don't ask us to vote"}, {"end": "01:02:08", "start": "01:02:03", "text": "for any more expansion. We don't even"}, {"end": "01:02:10", "start": "01:02:06", "text": "need even if you agree with the concept"}, {"end": "01:02:12", "start": "01:02:08", "text": "of NATO and even if you did want to"}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:02:10", "text": "expand it, we don't need any more"}, {"end": "01:02:17", "start": "01:02:12", "text": "freeloaders in NATO."}, {"end": "01:02:19", "start": "01:02:14", "text": "Right. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Uh"}, {"end": "01:02:23", "start": "01:02:17", "text": "speaking of freeloaders, you and I both"}, {"end": "01:02:25", "start": "01:02:19", "text": "know that we are able to fund NATO, the"}, {"end": "01:02:27", "start": "01:02:23", "text": "wars abroad, all kinds of nonsense"}, {"end": "01:02:29", "start": "01:02:25", "text": "because of the Federal Reserve. Uh this"}, {"end": "01:02:33", "start": "01:02:27", "text": "is something that Americans just don't"}, {"end": "01:02:36", "start": "01:02:29", "text": "acutely pay attention to. So you and I"}, {"end": "01:02:38", "start": "01:02:33", "text": "and Clayton and the Pauls, we scream"}, {"end": "01:02:39", "start": "01:02:36", "text": "from the rooftops and the Fed. You"}, {"end": "01:02:41", "start": "01:02:38", "text": "actually did something about it. You"}, {"end": "01:02:44", "start": "01:02:39", "text": "introduced the Federal Reserve Abolition"}, {"end": "01:02:46", "start": "01:02:41", "text": "Act. So let's scream ourselves horse and"}, {"end": "01:02:48", "start": "01:02:44", "text": "ask other Americans to take note. Shall"}, {"end": "01:02:50", "start": "01:02:46", "text": "we do that? Why don't you? You don't"}, {"end": "01:02:52", "start": "01:02:48", "text": "have to scream, but tell us about it so"}, {"end": "01:02:55", "start": "01:02:50", "text": "that we all get fired up. Well, listen."}, {"end": "01:02:57", "start": "01:02:52", "text": "For several years, I introduced the"}, {"end": "01:03:00", "start": "01:02:55", "text": "Federal Reserve Audit Act just to audit"}, {"end": "01:03:02", "start": "01:02:57", "text": "them. That's all I was asking for. But"}, {"end": "01:03:04", "start": "01:03:00", "text": "it became so ridiculous that I had to"}, {"end": "01:03:07", "start": "01:03:02", "text": "reintroduce the Abolition Act. There's"}, {"end": "01:03:09", "start": "01:03:04", "text": "no reason for it to exist. But here's"}, {"end": "01:03:12", "start": "01:03:07", "text": "the good news. They're becoming"}, {"end": "01:03:16", "start": "01:03:09", "text": "irrelevant. You know, the president is"}, {"end": "01:03:19", "start": "01:03:12", "text": "mad at the at the Fed uh chairman for"}, {"end": "01:03:21", "start": "01:03:16", "text": "not lowering interest rates. Guess what?"}, {"end": "01:03:23", "start": "01:03:19", "text": "He's not even in control anymore."}, {"end": "01:03:25", "start": "01:03:21", "text": "Congress is spending so much. And the"}, {"end": "01:03:27", "start": "01:03:23", "text": "implication of this big, beautiful bill"}, {"end": "01:03:30", "start": "01:03:25", "text": "is that Moody's downgraded our credit"}, {"end": "01:03:32", "start": "01:03:27", "text": "rating. And the people who buy our debt"}, {"end": "01:03:34", "start": "01:03:30", "text": "are saying, \"You know what? We don't"}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:32", "text": "want to buy your debt at 4.5%. We're"}, {"end": "01:03:39", "start": "01:03:34", "text": "going to have to have 5%. You're not as"}, {"end": "01:03:41", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "good of a of an investment as you used"}, {"end": "01:03:43", "start": "01:03:39", "text": "to be because you've shown us you have"}, {"end": "01:03:45", "start": "01:03:41", "text": "no intention of ever being fiscally"}, {"end": "01:03:48", "start": "01:03:43", "text": "responsible. And oh, by the way, you're"}, {"end": "01:03:51", "start": "01:03:45", "text": "buy we're buying your debt in US dollars"}, {"end": "01:03:53", "start": "01:03:48", "text": "and you are um causing inflation and"}, {"end": "01:03:56", "start": "01:03:51", "text": "devaluing US dollars. So, we're really"}, {"end": "01:03:59", "start": "01:03:53", "text": "not getting any kind of return. So even"}, {"end": "01:04:04", "start": "01:03:56", "text": "if the Fed wanted to make interest rates"}, {"end": "01:04:06", "start": "01:03:59", "text": "2% or 3% or 0% again, they can't even do"}, {"end": "01:04:08", "start": "01:04:04", "text": "it. The free market, and when I say free"}, {"end": "01:04:10", "start": "01:04:06", "text": "market, I'm just saying the global"}, {"end": "01:04:13", "start": "01:04:08", "text": "market, the people who typically buy our"}, {"end": "01:04:15", "start": "01:04:10", "text": "debt, the multinational banks and the"}, {"end": "01:04:17", "start": "01:04:13", "text": "sovereign wealth funds are saying,"}, {"end": "01:04:19", "start": "01:04:15", "text": "\"Nope, we're not giving you the the free"}, {"end": "01:04:22", "start": "01:04:17", "text": "ride you were getting before. We need"}, {"end": "01:04:24", "start": "01:04:19", "text": "higher interest rates.\" The Fed may end"}, {"end": "01:04:26", "start": "01:04:22", "text": "itself."}, {"end": "01:04:29", "start": "01:04:24", "text": "Wow. Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah."}, {"end": "01:04:32", "start": "01:04:26", "text": "Wow. Just like Jeffrey Epstein. Uh,"}, {"end": "01:04:34", "start": "01:04:29", "text": "Congressman Massie, great to see you as"}, {"end": "01:04:37", "start": "01:04:32", "text": "always. The thickest hide in Congress,"}, {"end": "01:04:38", "start": "01:04:34", "text": "by the way. Thank you as And I I asked"}, {"end": "01:04:40", "start": "01:04:37", "text": "our chat room earlier. I said, \"Hey, you"}, {"end": "01:04:41", "start": "01:04:38", "text": "know, is is Thomas Massie MAGA.\""}, {"end": "01:04:44", "start": "01:04:40", "text": "Overwhelmingly, they're like, \"Massie is"}, {"end": "01:04:46", "start": "01:04:41", "text": "MAGA. Massie is MAGA.\" So, when I when I"}, {"end": "01:04:48", "start": "01:04:44", "text": "heard there was a when I heard there was"}, {"end": "01:04:51", "start": "01:04:46", "text": "a ceasefire, I was hoping it was between"}, {"end": "01:04:53", "start": "01:04:48", "text": "me and Trump. You know, I've taken three"}, {"end": "01:04:56", "start": "01:04:51", "text": "bunker busters and I'm still here. I'm"}, {"end": "01:04:58", "start": "01:04:53", "text": "ready to call it even. Do you want me to"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:56", "text": "mediate? I will. I'm offering to do"}, {"end": "01:05:03", "start": "01:04:58", "text": "that. We can get in a room. We can go to"}, {"end": "01:05:05", "start": "01:05:01", "text": "Turkey. Putin Putin has offered to"}, {"end": "01:05:07", "start": "01:05:03", "text": "mediate."}, {"end": "01:05:10", "start": "01:05:05", "text": "All right. I'll take up any offers of"}, {"end": "01:05:11", "start": "01:05:07", "text": "mediation, but probably not Putin. All"}, {"end": "01:05:13", "start": "01:05:10", "text": "right. Thank you, Congressman, as"}, {"end": "01:05:15", "start": "01:05:11", "text": "always. Good luck to you. Thank you for"}, {"end": "01:05:18", "start": "01:05:13", "text": "always standing tall in the face of all"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:15", "text": "this criticism. Uh, you know, Redacted"}, {"end": "01:05:23", "start": "01:05:18", "text": "has your back as usual. Thanks. Thanks,"}, {"end": "01:05:26", "start": "01:05:20", "text": "Congressman. Great to see you."}, {"end": "01:05:27", "start": "01:05:23", "text": "Thank you very much both, Eddie."}, {"end": "01:05:29", "start": "01:05:26", "text": "All right. Thanks, Congressman. All"}, {"end": "01:05:31", "start": "01:05:27", "text": "right. We're going to talk about uh"}, {"end": "01:05:34", "start": "01:05:29", "text": "assassinations on Christians in Syria"}, {"end": "01:05:36", "start": "01:05:31", "text": "because the interim leader there, the"}, {"end": "01:05:37", "start": "01:05:34", "text": "former ISIS leader that is now the"}, {"end": "01:05:39", "start": "01:05:36", "text": "president of Syria, he's totally"}, {"end": "01:05:42", "start": "01:05:37", "text": "reformed. Yeah. He said he was going to"}, {"end": "01:05:44", "start": "01:05:39", "text": "look into it. He promised us this. Uh"}, {"end": "01:05:46", "start": "01:05:42", "text": "remember, you may recall we asked uh"}, {"end": "01:05:49", "start": "01:05:44", "text": "journalist Kavavor Galasian about it and"}, {"end": "01:05:51", "start": "01:05:46", "text": "our his reaction to this I'm going to"}, {"end": "01:05:53", "start": "01:05:49", "text": "look into Christians getting killed was"}, {"end": "01:05:55", "start": "01:05:51", "text": "a guttural laugh. So we're going to see"}, {"end": "01:05:57", "start": "01:05:53", "text": "how he feels about it now because uh"}, {"end": "01:05:59", "start": "01:05:55", "text": "it's gotten worse. Yes, much worse. Yes,"}, {"end": "01:06:00", "start": "01:05:57", "text": "it's gotten worse. 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Christians are being hunted"}, {"end": "01:07:59", "start": "01:07:54", "text": "down and massacred across Syria. Did you"}, {"end": "01:08:01", "start": "01:07:57", "text": "know that? Are you aware of this story?"}, {"end": "01:08:03", "start": "01:07:59", "text": "probably not because the mainstream"}, {"end": "01:08:06", "start": "01:08:01", "text": "media won't cover this story for some"}, {"end": "01:08:07", "start": "01:08:03", "text": "reason. I don't know why. Um, this is"}, {"end": "01:08:10", "start": "01:08:06", "text": "happening around the world, but right"}, {"end": "01:08:12", "start": "01:08:07", "text": "now in Syria, it is most acute. Over the"}, {"end": "01:08:14", "start": "01:08:10", "text": "weekend, one hour after this church"}, {"end": "01:08:17", "start": "01:08:12", "text": "service, look at these little kids"}, {"end": "01:08:19", "start": "01:08:14", "text": "carrying up the candles on the staff"}, {"end": "01:08:22", "start": "01:08:17", "text": "here. These little kids, one of them"}, {"end": "01:08:25", "start": "01:08:19", "text": "carrying the cross. All of these folks"}, {"end": "01:08:28", "start": "01:08:22", "text": "here in this church service at St. Elias"}, {"end": "01:08:31", "start": "01:08:25", "text": "Church in Damascus. So this was this was"}, {"end": "01:08:34", "start": "01:08:28", "text": "one hour prior to this church being"}, {"end": "01:08:36", "start": "01:08:31", "text": "attacked and massacred."}, {"end": "01:08:39", "start": "01:08:34", "text": "30 people killed inside of this church."}, {"end": "01:08:43", "start": "01:08:36", "text": "Dozens injured, dozens in the first ISIS"}, {"end": "01:08:46", "start": "01:08:39", "text": "style bombing since Syria has toppled"}, {"end": "01:08:48", "start": "01:08:43", "text": "and been ruled by former ISIS leader."}, {"end": "01:08:52", "start": "01:08:46", "text": "Syrian journalist Kavor Almasian, he"}, {"end": "01:08:56", "start": "01:08:48", "text": "himself a practicing Christian Orthodox"}, {"end": "01:09:00", "start": "01:08:52", "text": "um is joining us now to analyze this. Um"}, {"end": "01:09:01", "start": "01:08:56", "text": "so Kavor, this is not just an isolated"}, {"end": "01:09:03", "start": "01:09:00", "text": "incident. I mean I think I don't know"}, {"end": "01:09:05", "start": "01:09:01", "text": "why the mainstream media around the"}, {"end": "01:09:07", "start": "01:09:03", "text": "world, they're just ignoring this story,"}, {"end": "01:09:09", "start": "01:09:05", "text": "Christians being hunted down, but this"}, {"end": "01:09:12", "start": "01:09:07", "text": "isn't just an isolated isolated"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:09", "text": "incident, is it?"}, {"end": "01:09:15", "start": "01:09:12", "text": "Thank you very much Clayton and Natalie"}, {"end": "01:09:17", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "for having me. Uh at the introduction"}, {"end": "01:09:20", "start": "01:09:15", "text": "you mentioned that the mainstream media"}, {"end": "01:09:22", "start": "01:09:17", "text": "doesn't cover this case because for a"}, {"end": "01:09:24", "start": "01:09:20", "text": "simple reason for 14 years they promoted"}, {"end": "01:09:26", "start": "01:09:22", "text": "for this outcome. They promoted for a"}, {"end": "01:09:28", "start": "01:09:24", "text": "regime change and they promoted for the"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:26", "text": "chaos which was unleashed after the"}, {"end": "01:09:31", "start": "01:09:28", "text": "regime change in the country. So they"}, {"end": "01:09:33", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "don't want to hold themselves"}, {"end": "01:09:34", "start": "01:09:31", "text": "responsibility and they don't want to"}, {"end": "01:09:36", "start": "01:09:33", "text": "tell their audience that they have lied"}, {"end": "01:09:38", "start": "01:09:34", "text": "to their audience about the nature of"}, {"end": "01:09:40", "start": "01:09:36", "text": "the conflict in the country. Now these"}, {"end": "01:09:42", "start": "01:09:38", "text": "type of attacks were anticipated since"}, {"end": "01:09:44", "start": "01:09:40", "text": "the regime change happened and even"}, {"end": "01:09:47", "start": "01:09:42", "text": "before that for 14 years the Christians"}, {"end": "01:09:49", "start": "01:09:44", "text": "came under attacks targeted attacks by"}, {"end": "01:09:52", "start": "01:09:47", "text": "the al-Qaeda forces in the country"}, {"end": "01:09:54", "start": "01:09:49", "text": "backed sponsored funded and trained by"}, {"end": "01:09:56", "start": "01:09:52", "text": "different regional intelligence"}, {"end": "01:09:58", "start": "01:09:54", "text": "apparatuses and also the CIA which"}, {"end": "01:10:01", "start": "01:09:56", "text": "played a major role in this and this led"}, {"end": "01:10:04", "start": "01:09:58", "text": "into driving uh 90% of the Christians"}, {"end": "01:10:06", "start": "01:10:01", "text": "out of Syria. Now in the neighboring"}, {"end": "01:10:08", "start": "01:10:04", "text": "countries of Syria such as in Jordan, in"}, {"end": "01:10:11", "start": "01:10:06", "text": "Lebanon and in Turkey, Western NOS's"}, {"end": "01:10:13", "start": "01:10:08", "text": "established offices there saying that we"}, {"end": "01:10:15", "start": "01:10:11", "text": "are here to save them uh the Christians"}, {"end": "01:10:17", "start": "01:10:13", "text": "from persecution. So what they do"}, {"end": "01:10:18", "start": "01:10:15", "text": "basically they drove the Christians to"}, {"end": "01:10:20", "start": "01:10:17", "text": "the neighboring countries and from the"}, {"end": "01:10:22", "start": "01:10:18", "text": "neighboring countries they absorb them"}, {"end": "01:10:24", "start": "01:10:20", "text": "into some of the western countries such"}, {"end": "01:10:27", "start": "01:10:22", "text": "as in Australia and in Canada. But this"}, {"end": "01:10:29", "start": "01:10:24", "text": "was some sort of in my opinion a soft"}, {"end": "01:10:31", "start": "01:10:27", "text": "ethnic cleansing of the Christians after"}, {"end": "01:10:35", "start": "01:10:29", "text": "unleashing this type of brutal war in"}, {"end": "01:10:37", "start": "01:10:31", "text": "the country. Now that only 10% of um"}, {"end": "01:10:39", "start": "01:10:35", "text": "only 10% of the Christians left in the"}, {"end": "01:10:41", "start": "01:10:37", "text": "country, now we're witnessing another"}, {"end": "01:10:43", "start": "01:10:39", "text": "type of targeted attacks against them"}, {"end": "01:10:46", "start": "01:10:41", "text": "after they came uh after the Alawites,"}, {"end": "01:10:48", "start": "01:10:43", "text": "the Kurds, the Drews. Now they're coming"}, {"end": "01:10:50", "start": "01:10:46", "text": "after the Christians. So sending suicide"}, {"end": "01:10:52", "start": "01:10:48", "text": "bombers into a church, blowing it up"}, {"end": "01:10:54", "start": "01:10:50", "text": "completely, killing the worshippers"}, {"end": "01:10:56", "start": "01:10:52", "text": "there. And this act of intimidation of"}, {"end": "01:10:59", "start": "01:10:54", "text": "course only aims at driving the rest of"}, {"end": "01:11:02", "start": "01:10:56", "text": "the Christians out of Syria because the"}, {"end": "01:11:05", "start": "01:10:59", "text": "ideology that Abu Muhammad Golani who is"}, {"end": "01:11:07", "start": "01:11:02", "text": "now the self selected president of Syria"}, {"end": "01:11:10", "start": "01:11:05", "text": "goes back at least 800 years from now"}, {"end": "01:11:13", "start": "01:11:07", "text": "and he believes in the teachings of Iben"}, {"end": "01:11:15", "start": "01:11:10", "text": "Tamir and Iben Tamir believes that first"}, {"end": "01:11:19", "start": "01:11:13", "text": "this al-Qaeda ideology people should"}, {"end": "01:11:21", "start": "01:11:15", "text": "purify their own domestic house from the"}, {"end": "01:11:23", "start": "01:11:19", "text": "minority Islamic sects and when they are"}, {"end": "01:11:25", "start": "01:11:21", "text": "done with them they have to come after"}, {"end": "01:11:27", "start": "01:11:23", "text": "the Christians, after the Jews and after"}, {"end": "01:11:29", "start": "01:11:25", "text": "other religions. So this is just a"}, {"end": "01:11:30", "start": "01:11:27", "text": "logical in my opinion development what"}, {"end": "01:11:33", "start": "01:11:29", "text": "is happening in the country after"}, {"end": "01:11:34", "start": "01:11:30", "text": "installing a person who personally"}, {"end": "01:11:37", "start": "01:11:33", "text": "believes in this and the evidence and"}, {"end": "01:11:39", "start": "01:11:34", "text": "the proof of it is when the terrorist"}, {"end": "01:11:41", "start": "01:11:37", "text": "attack happened and 30 people uh were"}, {"end": "01:11:45", "start": "01:11:39", "text": "killed in inside the church. Golani"}, {"end": "01:11:47", "start": "01:11:41", "text": "issued a statement and he said he"}, {"end": "01:11:50", "start": "01:11:45", "text": "expresses solidarity with the victims of"}, {"end": "01:11:52", "start": "01:11:47", "text": "these attacks and he called the attack a"}, {"end": "01:11:54", "start": "01:11:50", "text": "criminal explosion. Now this is"}, {"end": "01:11:56", "start": "01:11:52", "text": "different from a previous uh"}, {"end": "01:11:58", "start": "01:11:54", "text": "administration in Syria which used to"}, {"end": "01:12:00", "start": "01:11:56", "text": "call such attacks terrorist attack. So"}, {"end": "01:12:02", "start": "01:11:58", "text": "Golani doesn't even dare to call an"}, {"end": "01:12:04", "start": "01:12:00", "text": "attack against the Christian community"}, {"end": "01:12:07", "start": "01:12:02", "text": "in the country a terrorist attack"}, {"end": "01:12:10", "start": "01:12:04", "text": "because he himself administered and he"}, {"end": "01:12:12", "start": "01:12:07", "text": "sponsored these type of attacks in Iraq."}, {"end": "01:12:15", "start": "01:12:10", "text": "He was the one who used to build car"}, {"end": "01:12:16", "start": "01:12:12", "text": "bombs and send them into the Shia"}, {"end": "01:12:19", "start": "01:12:15", "text": "communities into the Christian"}, {"end": "01:12:20", "start": "01:12:16", "text": "neighborhoods and blow them up in in in"}, {"end": "01:12:22", "start": "01:12:19", "text": "their neighborhoods. Now that he's the"}, {"end": "01:12:24", "start": "01:12:20", "text": "president of the country, he cannot just"}, {"end": "01:12:27", "start": "01:12:22", "text": "walk back and say this is a terrorist"}, {"end": "01:12:29", "start": "01:12:24", "text": "attack while he did the same thing 20"}, {"end": "01:12:32", "start": "01:12:27", "text": "years ago in Iraq in order to start a"}, {"end": "01:12:35", "start": "01:12:29", "text": "civil war there. But again, he said that"}, {"end": "01:12:40", "start": "01:12:32", "text": "was just a phase, you know, like when I"}, {"end": "01:12:42", "start": "01:12:35", "text": "had bangs. Exactly. He reformed. Yes."}, {"end": "01:12:45", "start": "01:12:40", "text": "And back in March, we discussed the 900"}, {"end": "01:12:48", "start": "01:12:42", "text": "Alawite civilians who were massacred on"}, {"end": "01:12:50", "start": "01:12:45", "text": "u under his watch. and he released this"}, {"end": "01:12:52", "start": "01:12:48", "text": "statement that he announced the"}, {"end": "01:12:55", "start": "01:12:50", "text": "formation of a factf finding committee"}, {"end": "01:12:57", "start": "01:12:52", "text": "regarding these events. Uh what happened"}, {"end": "01:13:00", "start": "01:12:55", "text": "when I asked you about this you gave us"}, {"end": "01:13:03", "start": "01:12:57", "text": "a guttural laugh that was your response"}, {"end": "01:13:06", "start": "01:13:00", "text": "to it. So is there anything that came of"}, {"end": "01:13:08", "start": "01:13:03", "text": "this factf finding other than it's"}, {"end": "01:13:11", "start": "01:13:06", "text": "happening? Actually the numbers exceed"}, {"end": "01:13:14", "start": "01:13:08", "text": "the 10,000 Alawites who were slaughtered"}, {"end": "01:13:17", "start": "01:13:11", "text": "by his regime and he formed a committee"}, {"end": "01:13:19", "start": "01:13:14", "text": "saying that he will investigate the case"}, {"end": "01:13:21", "start": "01:13:17", "text": "and he gave 3 months for the committee"}, {"end": "01:13:23", "start": "01:13:19", "text": "to conclude the investigation. After 3"}, {"end": "01:13:25", "start": "01:13:21", "text": "months he extended it another 3 months."}, {"end": "01:13:28", "start": "01:13:23", "text": "So we are now in the fifth month and"}, {"end": "01:13:31", "start": "01:13:25", "text": "nothing came out yet. Which means uh"}, {"end": "01:13:33", "start": "01:13:28", "text": "when you are the ruler of a country and"}, {"end": "01:13:35", "start": "01:13:31", "text": "you're giving time after time after time"}, {"end": "01:13:37", "start": "01:13:33", "text": "for militants to commit such atrocities,"}, {"end": "01:13:39", "start": "01:13:35", "text": "you're basically tacitly and openly"}, {"end": "01:13:41", "start": "01:13:37", "text": "basically you're encouraging them to"}, {"end": "01:13:43", "start": "01:13:39", "text": "continue this type of atrocities against"}, {"end": "01:13:46", "start": "01:13:41", "text": "the religious and ethnic minorities in"}, {"end": "01:13:48", "start": "01:13:43", "text": "the country. Nowadays I receive daily"}, {"end": "01:13:50", "start": "01:13:46", "text": "daily messages and phone calls from"}, {"end": "01:13:51", "start": "01:13:48", "text": "friends, colleagues, family in Syria."}, {"end": "01:13:53", "start": "01:13:50", "text": "They're all desperate. They don't know"}, {"end": "01:13:55", "start": "01:13:51", "text": "what to do. Most of the people who were"}, {"end": "01:13:57", "start": "01:13:53", "text": "stuck now in the country, they are from"}, {"end": "01:13:59", "start": "01:13:55", "text": "the poorer classes in the country. They"}, {"end": "01:14:01", "start": "01:13:57", "text": "don't have any means to leave the"}, {"end": "01:14:04", "start": "01:13:59", "text": "country and go, let's say, to another"}, {"end": "01:14:06", "start": "01:14:01", "text": "place or to relocate or pay a smuggler"}, {"end": "01:14:09", "start": "01:14:04", "text": "to come to Europe. And ironically"}, {"end": "01:14:11", "start": "01:14:06", "text": "enough, if you remember the the the big"}, {"end": "01:14:13", "start": "01:14:09", "text": "refugee crisis in Europe in 2015 and"}, {"end": "01:14:15", "start": "01:14:11", "text": "2016 and back then all European"}, {"end": "01:14:17", "start": "01:14:13", "text": "countries opened their doors and now"}, {"end": "01:14:19", "start": "01:14:15", "text": "where are the European countries from"}, {"end": "01:14:22", "start": "01:14:17", "text": "the Christians of Syria? Why aren't they"}, {"end": "01:14:25", "start": "01:14:19", "text": "receiving refugees or give them any"}, {"end": "01:14:27", "start": "01:14:22", "text": "protection after now that they are the"}, {"end": "01:14:29", "start": "01:14:25", "text": "ones targeted by these terrorist"}, {"end": "01:14:31", "start": "01:14:27", "text": "attacks? We don't see any politician in"}, {"end": "01:14:32", "start": "01:14:29", "text": "Europe or in the west talking about it."}, {"end": "01:14:35", "start": "01:14:31", "text": "We don't see the mainstream media is"}, {"end": "01:14:37", "start": "01:14:32", "text": "talking about it. But I personally urge"}, {"end": "01:14:39", "start": "01:14:35", "text": "at least Greece and other countries who"}, {"end": "01:14:42", "start": "01:14:37", "text": "have an invested interest in the Greek"}, {"end": "01:14:44", "start": "01:14:39", "text": "Orthodox community in the country to at"}, {"end": "01:14:45", "start": "01:14:42", "text": "least give them temporary protection in"}, {"end": "01:14:47", "start": "01:14:44", "text": "their own countries before the situation"}, {"end": "01:14:49", "start": "01:14:45", "text": "gets better. Because from the current"}, {"end": "01:14:52", "start": "01:14:47", "text": "moment from what I see what is happening"}, {"end": "01:14:54", "start": "01:14:49", "text": "in the country that there is an"}, {"end": "01:14:57", "start": "01:14:52", "text": "persistent attempt to cleanse the"}, {"end": "01:14:59", "start": "01:14:54", "text": "country from the infidels and from those"}, {"end": "01:15:02", "start": "01:14:57", "text": "who call them like they have deviated"}, {"end": "01:15:04", "start": "01:14:59", "text": "from the rules of God. Therefore uh the"}, {"end": "01:15:06", "start": "01:15:02", "text": "Christians who don't have any militias"}, {"end": "01:15:08", "start": "01:15:04", "text": "to protect themselves. They don't have"}, {"end": "01:15:09", "start": "01:15:06", "text": "any political power. They don't have a"}, {"end": "01:15:11", "start": "01:15:08", "text": "political party and they don't have any"}, {"end": "01:15:13", "start": "01:15:09", "text": "regional power on their back. They are"}, {"end": "01:15:17", "start": "01:15:11", "text": "left alone in the country. They have no"}, {"end": "01:15:19", "start": "01:15:13", "text": "one basically to back them, support them"}, {"end": "01:15:21", "start": "01:15:17", "text": "and assist them in the security because"}, {"end": "01:15:23", "start": "01:15:19", "text": "trusting Golani in this case is very"}, {"end": "01:15:26", "start": "01:15:21", "text": "delusional and it's very dangerous"}, {"end": "01:15:29", "start": "01:15:23", "text": "because he's the same guy who is sending"}, {"end": "01:15:31", "start": "01:15:26", "text": "cars to the Christian neighborhoods and"}, {"end": "01:15:33", "start": "01:15:29", "text": "they put big microphones and big"}, {"end": "01:15:35", "start": "01:15:31", "text": "speakers and calling the Christians to"}, {"end": "01:15:38", "start": "01:15:33", "text": "convert to to Islam or to their"}, {"end": "01:15:40", "start": "01:15:35", "text": "ideology. And after all these incidences"}, {"end": "01:15:42", "start": "01:15:38", "text": "happening and provocations against the"}, {"end": "01:15:44", "start": "01:15:40", "text": "Christians, now that it ended up with a"}, {"end": "01:15:46", "start": "01:15:42", "text": "terrorist attack, now Christians going"}, {"end": "01:15:47", "start": "01:15:44", "text": "to the streets and and calling for"}, {"end": "01:15:50", "start": "01:15:46", "text": "justice and they're protesting against"}, {"end": "01:15:53", "start": "01:15:47", "text": "the Golani regime. But be sure that this"}, {"end": "01:15:55", "start": "01:15:50", "text": "type of protest will lead to further"}, {"end": "01:15:58", "start": "01:15:53", "text": "persecution and prosecution of the"}, {"end": "01:16:00", "start": "01:15:55", "text": "Christians in Syria because uh Jolani is"}, {"end": "01:16:02", "start": "01:15:58", "text": "not a tolerant towards such. Yes, this"}, {"end": "01:16:04", "start": "01:16:00", "text": "type of for example protests against"}, {"end": "01:16:06", "start": "01:16:02", "text": "Golani because they say uh we reject"}, {"end": "01:16:08", "start": "01:16:04", "text": "this type of terrorism and we reject the"}, {"end": "01:16:10", "start": "01:16:06", "text": "foreign fighters. Clayton and Natalie,"}, {"end": "01:16:12", "start": "01:16:08", "text": "you know that we have thousands and"}, {"end": "01:16:16", "start": "01:16:10", "text": "thousands and thousands of multinational"}, {"end": "01:16:17", "start": "01:16:12", "text": "takists in Syria and when uh the Syrian"}, {"end": "01:16:19", "start": "01:16:16", "text": "regime was asked what are you going to"}, {"end": "01:16:21", "start": "01:16:17", "text": "do about them? They said, \"Yeah, they"}, {"end": "01:16:23", "start": "01:16:19", "text": "helped us in the revolution, so we have"}, {"end": "01:16:25", "start": "01:16:21", "text": "to settle them in the country.\" And he"}, {"end": "01:16:27", "start": "01:16:23", "text": "wants to give them Syrian citizenship."}, {"end": "01:16:30", "start": "01:16:25", "text": "And he has given them senior positions"}, {"end": "01:16:32", "start": "01:16:27", "text": "in the Syrian army. So we have people"}, {"end": "01:16:34", "start": "01:16:30", "text": "from Chinya. We have people from"}, {"end": "01:16:36", "start": "01:16:32", "text": "Chingyang, the wiggers. We have people"}, {"end": "01:16:39", "start": "01:16:34", "text": "from Pakistan. And one of these suicide"}, {"end": "01:16:41", "start": "01:16:36", "text": "bombers was from Pakistan who blew up"}, {"end": "01:16:44", "start": "01:16:39", "text": "himself in a in a Syrian church. And"}, {"end": "01:16:46", "start": "01:16:41", "text": "President Trump, he agreed on this plan"}, {"end": "01:16:48", "start": "01:16:44", "text": "because otherwise, what are they going"}, {"end": "01:16:50", "start": "01:16:46", "text": "to do with these thousands of jihadists"}, {"end": "01:16:52", "start": "01:16:48", "text": "in Syria? If they're going to send them"}, {"end": "01:16:54", "start": "01:16:50", "text": "back to their own countries or probably"}, {"end": "01:16:57", "start": "01:16:52", "text": "relocate them to other places, these"}, {"end": "01:16:58", "start": "01:16:54", "text": "people are very anarctic. They are very"}, {"end": "01:17:00", "start": "01:16:57", "text": "terroristic. They're very radical."}, {"end": "01:17:02", "start": "01:16:58", "text": "Wherever they go, they could wreck"}, {"end": "01:17:04", "start": "01:17:00", "text": "havoc. Therefore, they decided to settle"}, {"end": "01:17:06", "start": "01:17:02", "text": "them in Syria, give them Syrian"}, {"end": "01:17:08", "start": "01:17:04", "text": "citizenship, and let everyone forget"}, {"end": "01:17:09", "start": "01:17:06", "text": "about it. And now these multinational"}, {"end": "01:17:12", "start": "01:17:08", "text": "attackers are blowing themselves up"}, {"end": "01:17:14", "start": "01:17:09", "text": "among the Christian communities."}, {"end": "01:17:15", "start": "01:17:12", "text": "Take a look at this headline from"}, {"end": "01:17:17", "start": "01:17:14", "text": "dw.com."}, {"end": "01:17:19", "start": "01:17:15", "text": "Attack on Christians. And again, this is"}, {"end": "01:17:21", "start": "01:17:17", "text": "just how the mainstream media portrays"}, {"end": "01:17:24", "start": "01:17:19", "text": "this. Attack on Christians threatens"}, {"end": "01:17:26", "start": "01:17:21", "text": "Syria's post-war cohesion. And I'll read"}, {"end": "01:17:27", "start": "01:17:24", "text": "you the by line which says, \"Syria's new"}, {"end": "01:17:29", "start": "01:17:26", "text": "president has promised to replace the"}, {"end": "01:17:32", "start": "01:17:27", "text": "Assad dictatorship with a"}, {"end": "01:17:35", "start": "01:17:29", "text": "multi-religious society where all faiths"}, {"end": "01:17:37", "start": "01:17:32", "text": "are represented.\" Sunday's terror attack"}, {"end": "01:17:40", "start": "01:17:35", "text": "in Damascus shows us how much work"}, {"end": "01:17:41", "start": "01:17:37", "text": "remains to be done. So, the mainstream"}, {"end": "01:17:43", "start": "01:17:40", "text": "media is of course spinning at that, you"}, {"end": "01:17:45", "start": "01:17:41", "text": "know, Syria's new president has promised"}, {"end": "01:17:48", "start": "01:17:43", "text": "to replace the Assad dictatorship with a"}, {"end": "01:17:50", "start": "01:17:45", "text": "multi-religious society. It's going to"}, {"end": "01:17:52", "start": "01:17:48", "text": "be whos who funds this outlet? Who funds"}, {"end": "01:17:54", "start": "01:17:50", "text": "this outlet, Clayton, is the German"}, {"end": "01:17:56", "start": "01:17:52", "text": "government. This is not even an"}, {"end": "01:17:58", "start": "01:17:54", "text": "independent outlet. They are funded by"}, {"end": "01:18:01", "start": "01:17:56", "text": "the foreign ministry of uh of Germany"}, {"end": "01:18:03", "start": "01:17:58", "text": "and they tell them exactly how to report"}, {"end": "01:18:05", "start": "01:18:01", "text": "about these cases. And the first one of"}, {"end": "01:18:08", "start": "01:18:03", "text": "the first European foreign ministers who"}, {"end": "01:18:10", "start": "01:18:05", "text": "flew to Damascus trying to shake hands"}, {"end": "01:18:12", "start": "01:18:08", "text": "with Golani was the former foreign"}, {"end": "01:18:16", "start": "01:18:10", "text": "minister of Germany, Analena Bebok,"}, {"end": "01:18:18", "start": "01:18:12", "text": "whose ministry funds this uh uh this"}, {"end": "01:18:20", "start": "01:18:16", "text": "outlet. Now that she's out of power,"}, {"end": "01:18:22", "start": "01:18:18", "text": "it's still the same. Faces change, but"}, {"end": "01:18:25", "start": "01:18:20", "text": "similar people come to power and they're"}, {"end": "01:18:27", "start": "01:18:22", "text": "still funding this type of mainstream"}, {"end": "01:18:29", "start": "01:18:25", "text": "media outlets and they're trying to"}, {"end": "01:18:31", "start": "01:18:27", "text": "create a perception that there's a"}, {"end": "01:18:32", "start": "01:18:29", "text": "chance, you know, let's give him a"}, {"end": "01:18:34", "start": "01:18:31", "text": "chance. What is he going to do? The"}, {"end": "01:18:37", "start": "01:18:32", "text": "truth of the matter is they accepted"}, {"end": "01:18:39", "start": "01:18:34", "text": "Golani because he said, \"I will not"}, {"end": "01:18:41", "start": "01:18:37", "text": "attack Israel. I will break the access"}, {"end": "01:18:43", "start": "01:18:39", "text": "of resistance. I will seal the borders"}, {"end": "01:18:45", "start": "01:18:41", "text": "with Hezbollah. I will make life easier"}, {"end": "01:18:47", "start": "01:18:43", "text": "for Israel in the region and I will"}, {"end": "01:18:49", "start": "01:18:45", "text": "normalize ties with them. I will condemn"}, {"end": "01:18:51", "start": "01:18:47", "text": "Iran and I will not condemn Israel.\" So"}, {"end": "01:18:53", "start": "01:18:49", "text": "everybody was excited about him when he"}, {"end": "01:18:55", "start": "01:18:51", "text": "came to power. And that's what he's"}, {"end": "01:18:57", "start": "01:18:53", "text": "basically doing. He is reorienting the"}, {"end": "01:19:03", "start": "01:18:55", "text": "geopolitical posture of Syria, let's"}, {"end": "01:19:03", "start": "01:18:57", "text": "say, from pro-Russia, pro-Iran, prox"}, {"end": "01:19:07", "start": "01:19:03", "text": "position, for example. And accordingly,"}, {"end": "01:19:09", "start": "01:19:05", "text": "everybody accepted him. If he kills all"}, {"end": "01:19:11", "start": "01:19:07", "text": "the Christians in Syria, there is no"}, {"end": "01:19:12", "start": "01:19:09", "text": "problem about that. Who is who is"}, {"end": "01:19:14", "start": "01:19:11", "text": "shedding crocodile tears now on the"}, {"end": "01:19:16", "start": "01:19:12", "text": "Christians in Iraq? 90% of them were"}, {"end": "01:19:19", "start": "01:19:14", "text": "also driven out of their country after"}, {"end": "01:19:21", "start": "01:19:16", "text": "2003 war. And nobody speaks about them"}, {"end": "01:19:23", "start": "01:19:19", "text": "now after 20 years. And similar thing"}, {"end": "01:19:24", "start": "01:19:21", "text": "will happen to the Syrian Christians in"}, {"end": "01:19:26", "start": "01:19:23", "text": "10 years and 20 years. Everybody will"}, {"end": "01:19:27", "start": "01:19:24", "text": "forget about them because other"}, {"end": "01:19:30", "start": "01:19:26", "text": "countries will absorb these Christians"}, {"end": "01:19:32", "start": "01:19:27", "text": "into their countries and the story is"}, {"end": "01:19:34", "start": "01:19:30", "text": "done and the the goal of the regime"}, {"end": "01:19:36", "start": "01:19:32", "text": "change war has been materialized. This"}, {"end": "01:19:38", "start": "01:19:34", "text": "is the main issue. It is about"}, {"end": "01:19:40", "start": "01:19:36", "text": "geopolitics and finances and money and"}, {"end": "01:19:43", "start": "01:19:38", "text": "it has nothing to do about human rights."}, {"end": "01:19:45", "start": "01:19:40", "text": "If if Jolani is committing atrocities or"}, {"end": "01:19:47", "start": "01:19:43", "text": "violating human rights, it's okay. He's"}, {"end": "01:19:50", "start": "01:19:45", "text": "he's their ally."}, {"end": "01:19:53", "start": "01:19:47", "text": "Now, so what next? Because in the past"}, {"end": "01:19:56", "start": "01:19:50", "text": "we've talked about I mean Syrians were"}, {"end": "01:19:57", "start": "01:19:53", "text": "protected under Assad and you and I kind"}, {"end": "01:20:00", "start": "01:19:56", "text": "of felt like well if the United States"}, {"end": "01:20:02", "start": "01:19:57", "text": "gets out of Syria that was sort of the"}, {"end": "01:20:05", "start": "01:20:00", "text": "way of things but now the United States"}, {"end": "01:20:07", "start": "01:20:02", "text": "is saying well with Galani we're going"}, {"end": "01:20:09", "start": "01:20:05", "text": "to sort of put a lease on it like make"}, {"end": "01:20:13", "start": "01:20:07", "text": "it so it was always okay in its inner"}, {"end": "01:20:15", "start": "01:20:09", "text": "rears and so then it seems like that's"}, {"end": "01:20:16", "start": "01:20:13", "text": "just going to be the way it is. The"}, {"end": "01:20:18", "start": "01:20:15", "text": "United States will keep a small presence"}, {"end": "01:20:21", "start": "01:20:16", "text": "there. Gelani is going to stay. There's"}, {"end": "01:20:23", "start": "01:20:18", "text": "I don't see any"}, {"end": "01:20:24", "start": "01:20:21", "text": "what"}, {"end": "01:20:27", "start": "01:20:23", "text": "what's going to happen. I don't see any"}, {"end": "01:20:30", "start": "01:20:24", "text": "like let's hope for this at all. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:20:32", "start": "01:20:27", "text": "The US army is finalizing a long-term"}, {"end": "01:20:34", "start": "01:20:30", "text": "deal with Golani to stay in the country"}, {"end": "01:20:36", "start": "01:20:32", "text": "permanently for a long time. Uh they"}, {"end": "01:20:38", "start": "01:20:34", "text": "want to stay in the eastern shore of the"}, {"end": "01:20:40", "start": "01:20:36", "text": "Euphrates where most of the oil and the"}, {"end": "01:20:42", "start": "01:20:38", "text": "gas is because American companies are"}, {"end": "01:20:44", "start": "01:20:40", "text": "going to extract this oil, process them,"}, {"end": "01:20:46", "start": "01:20:42", "text": "recycle them and sell them of course. So"}, {"end": "01:20:48", "start": "01:20:44", "text": "it's it's a big profit for them and the"}, {"end": "01:20:50", "start": "01:20:46", "text": "American soldiers boots on the ground"}, {"end": "01:20:53", "start": "01:20:48", "text": "are going to be protectors basically of"}, {"end": "01:20:56", "start": "01:20:50", "text": "these oil fields and their proxies the"}, {"end": "01:20:58", "start": "01:20:53", "text": "Kurdish le Syrian democratic forces"}, {"end": "01:21:00", "start": "01:20:56", "text": "there because what the Americans want to"}, {"end": "01:21:02", "start": "01:20:58", "text": "do is to create spheres of influence in"}, {"end": "01:21:04", "start": "01:21:00", "text": "the country on the eastern shore of the"}, {"end": "01:21:06", "start": "01:21:02", "text": "Euphrates which is onethird of the"}, {"end": "01:21:08", "start": "01:21:04", "text": "country where the American occupation"}, {"end": "01:21:10", "start": "01:21:06", "text": "forces are located. They going to"}, {"end": "01:21:12", "start": "01:21:08", "text": "receive now a legitimacy from the"}, {"end": "01:21:13", "start": "01:21:10", "text": "current regime in Damascus. they stay"}, {"end": "01:21:16", "start": "01:21:12", "text": "there for the sake of the oil and the"}, {"end": "01:21:18", "start": "01:21:13", "text": "gas and the rest of the country can"}, {"end": "01:21:19", "start": "01:21:16", "text": "screw itself because they don't have"}, {"end": "01:21:21", "start": "01:21:18", "text": "much of natural resources. They don't"}, {"end": "01:21:24", "start": "01:21:19", "text": "have the food basket. They don't have"}, {"end": "01:21:25", "start": "01:21:21", "text": "the carbohydrates. They can just uh"}, {"end": "01:21:28", "start": "01:21:24", "text": "continue living under Jolani. And this"}, {"end": "01:21:31", "start": "01:21:25", "text": "is where Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and"}, {"end": "01:21:34", "start": "01:21:28", "text": "Israel basically they are endorsing this"}, {"end": "01:21:36", "start": "01:21:31", "text": "Golani rule because he's the one who is"}, {"end": "01:21:38", "start": "01:21:34", "text": "going to make the shift. This is a"}, {"end": "01:21:40", "start": "01:21:36", "text": "historic shift. Since World War II,"}, {"end": "01:21:43", "start": "01:21:38", "text": "since the end of World War II and since"}, {"end": "01:21:46", "start": "01:21:40", "text": "the independence of Syria, we have had"}, {"end": "01:21:48", "start": "01:21:43", "text": "over probably 13 or 14 different"}, {"end": "01:21:51", "start": "01:21:46", "text": "presidents and leaders in the country."}, {"end": "01:21:54", "start": "01:21:48", "text": "And none of them succeeded or managed or"}, {"end": "01:21:56", "start": "01:21:51", "text": "wanted to reorient Syria on the side of"}, {"end": "01:21:58", "start": "01:21:54", "text": "the transatlantic alliance. And this is"}, {"end": "01:22:00", "start": "01:21:56", "text": "what Golani was tasked to do. And that"}, {"end": "01:22:02", "start": "01:21:58", "text": "is why they accepted him to come to"}, {"end": "01:22:04", "start": "01:22:00", "text": "power. And this is great news for the"}, {"end": "01:22:07", "start": "01:22:02", "text": "transatlantic movement in uh alliance in"}, {"end": "01:22:10", "start": "01:22:04", "text": "in the Middle East because the uh now"}, {"end": "01:22:12", "start": "01:22:07", "text": "that with this conflict between Iran,"}, {"end": "01:22:16", "start": "01:22:10", "text": "war between Iran and uh and Israel, they"}, {"end": "01:22:18", "start": "01:22:12", "text": "have now an open airspace over Syria,"}, {"end": "01:22:21", "start": "01:22:16", "text": "therefore the Israeli forces can fly"}, {"end": "01:22:23", "start": "01:22:18", "text": "over the Syrian airspace and bomb Iran"}, {"end": "01:22:26", "start": "01:22:21", "text": "on the borders with Iraq. uh before that"}, {"end": "01:22:29", "start": "01:22:23", "text": "under Assad he he closed his airspace"}, {"end": "01:22:31", "start": "01:22:26", "text": "and since and since 2018 the Israeli"}, {"end": "01:22:33", "start": "01:22:29", "text": "fighter jets didn't dare to penetrate"}, {"end": "01:22:35", "start": "01:22:31", "text": "the Syrian airspace because of the"}, {"end": "01:22:38", "start": "01:22:33", "text": "complicated and sophisticated Syrian"}, {"end": "01:22:40", "start": "01:22:35", "text": "airspace. But once Golani came to power,"}, {"end": "01:22:43", "start": "01:22:38", "text": "Israel destroyed all the air defenses of"}, {"end": "01:22:45", "start": "01:22:40", "text": "Syria and Golani basically inhabited the"}, {"end": "01:22:47", "start": "01:22:43", "text": "militia. He doesn't have any army. He"}, {"end": "01:22:50", "start": "01:22:45", "text": "doesn't have tanks. He doesn't have"}, {"end": "01:22:52", "start": "01:22:47", "text": "artilleries or air air force or air"}, {"end": "01:22:55", "start": "01:22:50", "text": "defenses. Therefore, they have given him"}, {"end": "01:22:57", "start": "01:22:52", "text": "let's say you know how Mahmud Abbas in"}, {"end": "01:22:58", "start": "01:22:55", "text": "the West Bank rules. He's he's like he"}, {"end": "01:23:00", "start": "01:22:57", "text": "has a militia and he has a police"}, {"end": "01:23:02", "start": "01:22:58", "text": "station there. This is how he's ruling"}, {"end": "01:23:05", "start": "01:23:00", "text": "over the neck of the Syrians basically"}, {"end": "01:23:08", "start": "01:23:02", "text": "who are unarmed and they are they don't"}, {"end": "01:23:10", "start": "01:23:05", "text": "have any protection from anyone. That's"}, {"end": "01:23:12", "start": "01:23:08", "text": "why the future is very very very dire."}, {"end": "01:23:13", "start": "01:23:10", "text": "And we're speaking about Syria. We're"}, {"end": "01:23:15", "start": "01:23:12", "text": "speaking about Palestine. Those places"}, {"end": "01:23:18", "start": "01:23:13", "text": "are the birthplace of Jesus Christ. And"}, {"end": "01:23:20", "start": "01:23:15", "text": "Jesus Christ walked through the streets"}, {"end": "01:23:23", "start": "01:23:18", "text": "of this neighborhood. And uh therefore"}, {"end": "01:23:25", "start": "01:23:20", "text": "it has a a very big historical and"}, {"end": "01:23:27", "start": "01:23:23", "text": "cultural and religious significance."}, {"end": "01:23:30", "start": "01:23:25", "text": "Something that if it's wiped out from"}, {"end": "01:23:31", "start": "01:23:27", "text": "Syria, it could also lead into another"}, {"end": "01:23:34", "start": "01:23:30", "text": "domino effect to other regions to"}, {"end": "01:23:35", "start": "01:23:31", "text": "countries that claim their leaders claim"}, {"end": "01:23:37", "start": "01:23:34", "text": "that they are Christians. So if you're a"}, {"end": "01:23:39", "start": "01:23:35", "text": "Christian and if you care about the"}, {"end": "01:23:42", "start": "01:23:37", "text": "future of Christianity, you should not"}, {"end": "01:23:44", "start": "01:23:39", "text": "only just uh make noise about the"}, {"end": "01:23:46", "start": "01:23:42", "text": "victims. No, we have to lobby and"}, {"end": "01:23:48", "start": "01:23:44", "text": "pressure against this type of"}, {"end": "01:23:50", "start": "01:23:46", "text": "catastrophic policies coming from"}, {"end": "01:23:52", "start": "01:23:48", "text": "whether Washington or Tel Aviv. Regime"}, {"end": "01:23:54", "start": "01:23:50", "text": "change, destruction, chaos, and then"}, {"end": "01:23:56", "start": "01:23:52", "text": "create a vacuum for these ISIS and"}, {"end": "01:23:58", "start": "01:23:54", "text": "al-Qaeda types to take over just like"}, {"end": "01:24:00", "start": "01:23:56", "text": "they did in Iraq. And now they wanted to"}, {"end": "01:24:02", "start": "01:23:58", "text": "copy it in Iran. But in Iran, they say"}, {"end": "01:24:03", "start": "01:24:00", "text": "no, no, it's different in Iran. This"}, {"end": "01:24:06", "start": "01:24:02", "text": "time it's different in Iran. It's not"}, {"end": "01:24:08", "start": "01:24:03", "text": "going to be like in Syria or in in Iraq."}, {"end": "01:24:10", "start": "01:24:06", "text": "But I would say it would be worse"}, {"end": "01:24:13", "start": "01:24:08", "text": "because 92 million people live in Iran"}, {"end": "01:24:15", "start": "01:24:10", "text": "in in Iran and there are multiple"}, {"end": "01:24:17", "start": "01:24:13", "text": "different ethnic and religious groups in"}, {"end": "01:24:19", "start": "01:24:15", "text": "Iran. So if you create a power vacuum"}, {"end": "01:24:22", "start": "01:24:17", "text": "and if there is a mistrust or there is a"}, {"end": "01:24:24", "start": "01:24:19", "text": "security event in the country, everybody"}, {"end": "01:24:26", "start": "01:24:22", "text": "will start protecting itself, carrying"}, {"end": "01:24:29", "start": "01:24:24", "text": "arms, fighting against each other. So"}, {"end": "01:24:32", "start": "01:24:26", "text": "how many refugees could create this out"}, {"end": "01:24:34", "start": "01:24:29", "text": "of 92 million people to all these um"}, {"end": "01:24:35", "start": "01:24:32", "text": "influencers in the United States who say"}, {"end": "01:24:37", "start": "01:24:34", "text": "we don't want refugees we don't want"}, {"end": "01:24:39", "start": "01:24:35", "text": "migrants but every time they are the"}, {"end": "01:24:42", "start": "01:24:37", "text": "drums of war they join it and they want"}, {"end": "01:24:44", "start": "01:24:39", "text": "to attack another country and they"}, {"end": "01:24:46", "start": "01:24:42", "text": "create the same problems that they say"}, {"end": "01:24:48", "start": "01:24:44", "text": "that they want they don't want to to"}, {"end": "01:24:50", "start": "01:24:46", "text": "face or address in their own countries"}, {"end": "01:24:51", "start": "01:24:48", "text": "that's ridiculous in my opinion yeah"}, {"end": "01:24:53", "start": "01:24:50", "text": "it's shocking when we go in and"}, {"end": "01:24:55", "start": "01:24:51", "text": "destabilize a country like Somalia and"}, {"end": "01:24:57", "start": "01:24:53", "text": "then suddenly we wind up with all kinds"}, {"end": "01:24:59", "start": "01:24:55", "text": "of Somalian refugees or Iraq, then we"}, {"end": "01:25:01", "start": "01:24:57", "text": "have all sorts of Iraqi refu. It's"}, {"end": "01:25:04", "start": "01:24:59", "text": "amazing how that happens and they pour"}, {"end": "01:25:05", "start": "01:25:01", "text": "into our country. Uh Christians are"}, {"end": "01:25:07", "start": "01:25:04", "text": "under attack. I mean, I saw a study"}, {"end": "01:25:09", "start": "01:25:05", "text": "today, one out of every seven um"}, {"end": "01:25:10", "start": "01:25:07", "text": "basically being persecuted around the"}, {"end": "01:25:11", "start": "01:25:09", "text": "world right now and the story for"}, {"end": "01:25:12", "start": "01:25:10", "text": "whatever reason just not getting any"}, {"end": "01:25:14", "start": "01:25:11", "text": "coverage in the mainstream media. So,"}, {"end": "01:25:17", "start": "01:25:12", "text": "you have to come to alternative media"}, {"end": "01:25:19", "start": "01:25:14", "text": "like what Kavor does at Syriana Analysis"}, {"end": "01:25:20", "start": "01:25:17", "text": "or what we do here at Redacted. So,"}, {"end": "01:25:22", "start": "01:25:19", "text": "Kavor, thank you so much for your"}, {"end": "01:25:24", "start": "01:25:20", "text": "courage. Um thank you for your"}, {"end": "01:25:26", "start": "01:25:22", "text": "brilliance. one of the few I mean really"}, {"end": "01:25:28", "start": "01:25:24", "text": "one of the great Syrian voices that we"}, {"end": "01:25:29", "start": "01:25:26", "text": "can turn to to get the truth about this."}, {"end": "01:25:31", "start": "01:25:28", "text": "Thank you Kavor. Great to see you as"}, {"end": "01:25:33", "start": "01:25:29", "text": "always. Thank you so much and thank you"}, {"end": "01:25:34", "start": "01:25:31", "text": "so much for shedding light on this."}, {"end": "01:25:36", "start": "01:25:33", "text": "You're one of the very few journalists"}, {"end": "01:25:38", "start": "01:25:34", "text": "with big platforms who continuously"}, {"end": "01:25:39", "start": "01:25:36", "text": "speaking about Syria. It's very"}, {"end": "01:25:43", "start": "01:25:38", "text": "important in my opinion for the"}, {"end": "01:25:46", "start": "01:25:39", "text": "journalists who speak about such cases."}, {"end": "01:25:48", "start": "01:25:43", "text": "We we we believe so. Thank you so much"}, {"end": "01:25:50", "start": "01:25:46", "text": "Kavor. Absolutely. Thank you. Uh so many"}, {"end": "01:25:52", "start": "01:25:48", "text": "people you know you wonder you know like"}, {"end": "01:25:53", "start": "01:25:50", "text": "how how important is absolutely"}, {"end": "01:25:55", "start": "01:25:52", "text": "important. This is, you know, you have"}, {"end": "01:25:57", "start": "01:25:53", "text": "the mainstream media that's painting a"}, {"end": "01:25:58", "start": "01:25:55", "text": "narrative about a former a former ISIS"}, {"end": "01:26:00", "start": "01:25:57", "text": "terrorist, an al-Qaeda terror, whatever"}, {"end": "01:26:01", "start": "01:25:58", "text": "you want to call them. Um, what's the"}, {"end": "01:26:03", "start": "01:26:00", "text": "difference between them who's now"}, {"end": "01:26:06", "start": "01:26:01", "text": "leading this country and Christians are"}, {"end": "01:26:07", "start": "01:26:03", "text": "being killed on a regular basis and the"}, {"end": "01:26:09", "start": "01:26:06", "text": "mainstream media is like turning a blind"}, {"end": "01:26:11", "start": "01:26:07", "text": "eye to it. And the American, right,"}, {"end": "01:26:13", "start": "01:26:09", "text": "American government is turning a blind"}, {"end": "01:26:15", "start": "01:26:11", "text": "eye to it. Well, yes. I mean, we only"}, {"end": "01:26:17", "start": "01:26:13", "text": "had one person who even ever voted to"}, {"end": "01:26:19", "start": "01:26:15", "text": "get out of Syria. That was Matt Gates,"}, {"end": "01:26:21", "start": "01:26:17", "text": "who put it to the floor, failed"}, {"end": "01:26:23", "start": "01:26:19", "text": "miserably, and look what happened to"}, {"end": "01:26:25", "start": "01:26:21", "text": "him. he became smeared and yeah all all"}, {"end": "01:26:27", "start": "01:26:23", "text": "manner of things. So although I I want"}, {"end": "01:26:29", "start": "01:26:25", "text": "to say Matt Gates is killing it lately,"}, {"end": "01:26:32", "start": "01:26:27", "text": "it's very perplexing when you see"}, {"end": "01:26:34", "start": "01:26:29", "text": "someone of power like Matt Gates who's"}, {"end": "01:26:36", "start": "01:26:32", "text": "on X who's on his own video platforms"}, {"end": "01:26:38", "start": "01:26:34", "text": "who's saying things that are true about"}, {"end": "01:26:41", "start": "01:26:36", "text": "our historical relationships in the"}, {"end": "01:26:43", "start": "01:26:38", "text": "Middle East and it's like what's h"}, {"end": "01:26:44", "start": "01:26:41", "text": "what's happening there? I'm not used to"}, {"end": "01:26:46", "start": "01:26:43", "text": "members of Congress being this"}, {"end": "01:26:49", "start": "01:26:44", "text": "forthcoming. So yeah, uh I'm enjoying"}, {"end": "01:26:51", "start": "01:26:46", "text": "that. Yeah, like I like I said about uh"}, {"end": "01:26:54", "start": "01:26:49", "text": "these reports from CNN recently that"}, {"end": "01:26:57", "start": "01:26:51", "text": "Iran did not have a nuclear weapon. I'm"}, {"end": "01:26:58", "start": "01:26:54", "text": "very confused when they tell the truth."}, {"end": "01:27:00", "start": "01:26:57", "text": "I know. It's kind of shocking. It's very"}, {"end": "01:27:02", "start": "01:26:58", "text": "disarming. Yeah. All right. We're going"}, {"end": "01:27:04", "start": "01:27:00", "text": "to take some of your chats here in a"}, {"end": "01:27:06", "start": "01:27:02", "text": "second. But first, listen, ladies and"}, {"end": "01:27:07", "start": "01:27:04", "text": "gentlemen. Our world is being poisoned"}, {"end": "01:27:09", "start": "01:27:06", "text": "every day. 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Um I I"}, {"end": "01:29:51", "start": "01:29:48", "text": "question whether I should, but I did it"}, {"end": "01:29:54", "start": "01:29:50", "text": "anyway. I just ate an entire jar of"}, {"end": "01:29:56", "start": "01:29:51", "text": "kimchi for dinner. Not with dinner, but"}, {"end": "01:29:58", "start": "01:29:54", "text": "for dinner. I just ate a jar of kimchi"}, {"end": "01:30:00", "start": "01:29:56", "text": "for dinner. And I would I would do it"}, {"end": "01:30:02", "start": "01:29:58", "text": "again. I love this stuff. Yeah, it's so"}, {"end": "01:30:04", "start": "01:30:00", "text": "good. It's so good. Especially after I"}, {"end": "01:30:06", "start": "01:30:02", "text": "watched this doctor. I mean, um there's"}, {"end": "01:30:07", "start": "01:30:04", "text": "a doctor who's like the leading doctor"}, {"end": "01:30:09", "start": "01:30:06", "text": "on visceral fat. It's like, you know,"}, {"end": "01:30:10", "start": "01:30:07", "text": "the fat that you don't see on your body."}, {"end": "01:30:13", "start": "01:30:09", "text": "It's the fat that's like sits on your"}, {"end": "01:30:14", "start": "01:30:10", "text": "organs, you know. Um that's the really"}, {"end": "01:30:18", "start": "01:30:13", "text": "troubling stuff. And he said the number"}, {"end": "01:30:21", "start": "01:30:14", "text": "one way to reduce or eliminate visceral"}, {"end": "01:30:24", "start": "01:30:18", "text": "fat is to eat a meatbased diet. Red meat"}, {"end": "01:30:26", "start": "01:30:21", "text": "specifically. But because we have like"}, {"end": "01:30:27", "start": "01:30:24", "text": "all this sterilized water now that we"}, {"end": "01:30:29", "start": "01:30:26", "text": "drink, we don't we're not getting the"}, {"end": "01:30:30", "start": "01:30:27", "text": "mineralizations. We're not getting the"}, {"end": "01:30:32", "start": "01:30:29", "text": "good bacteria in our gut. So, you're"}, {"end": "01:30:34", "start": "01:30:30", "text": "eating this red meat and then you're"}, {"end": "01:30:36", "start": "01:30:32", "text": "drinking like filtered water, but you're"}, {"end": "01:30:38", "start": "01:30:34", "text": "not getting any of the good bacteria for"}, {"end": "01:30:40", "start": "01:30:36", "text": "your gut. He said, \"You need to eat like"}, {"end": "01:30:42", "start": "01:30:38", "text": "a piece of meat with a fermented food.\""}, {"end": "01:30:44", "start": "01:30:40", "text": "And he said, \"Kimchi, like, you know, a"}, {"end": "01:30:47", "start": "01:30:42", "text": "sauerkraut, but really kimchi is way"}, {"end": "01:30:49", "start": "01:30:44", "text": "better um from than a sour I mean, than"}, {"end": "01:30:51", "start": "01:30:47", "text": "a sauerkraut.\" So, because then you need"}, {"end": "01:30:52", "start": "01:30:49", "text": "that gut bacteria to help break down"}, {"end": "01:30:55", "start": "01:30:51", "text": "everything. And it's he said that's the"}, {"end": "01:30:57", "start": "01:30:52", "text": "number one thing that you can do uh to"}, {"end": "01:30:59", "start": "01:30:55", "text": "reduce and or eliminate visceral fat"}, {"end": "01:31:00", "start": "01:30:57", "text": "from your body. I forget the doctor's"}, {"end": "01:31:04", "start": "01:30:59", "text": "name. Maybe people in the chat room will"}, {"end": "01:31:05", "start": "01:31:00", "text": "know who this doctor is. But uh yeah and"}, {"end": "01:31:07", "start": "01:31:04", "text": "I was concerned a few years ago when I"}, {"end": "01:31:09", "start": "01:31:05", "text": "did a scan and my visceral fat level was"}, {"end": "01:31:11", "start": "01:31:07", "text": "too high. Like I wasn't fat on the"}, {"end": "01:31:14", "start": "01:31:09", "text": "outside but I had some fat sort of"}, {"end": "01:31:16", "start": "01:31:11", "text": "sitting on my uh you know not good areas"}, {"end": "01:31:17", "start": "01:31:14", "text": "you know and that's that's the stuff my"}, {"end": "01:31:19", "start": "01:31:16", "text": "dad you know had a heart disease years"}, {"end": "01:31:22", "start": "01:31:17", "text": "ago. I had to get like quintuple bypass"}, {"end": "01:31:24", "start": "01:31:19", "text": "surgery and and all of that. So, I I"}, {"end": "01:31:27", "start": "01:31:22", "text": "definitely don't want to have that"}, {"end": "01:31:29", "start": "01:31:24", "text": "happen in my life. Absolutely not. So,"}, {"end": "01:31:31", "start": "01:31:27", "text": "anyway, my friends, well, thanks to all"}, {"end": "01:31:33", "start": "01:31:29", "text": "of you guys for being a part of our show"}, {"end": "01:31:35", "start": "01:31:31", "text": "and subscribing. It really is uh you"}, {"end": "01:31:36", "start": "01:31:33", "text": "know, I really want to thank you guys so"}, {"end": "01:31:38", "start": "01:31:35", "text": "much uh for being a part of our"}, {"end": "01:31:41", "start": "01:31:36", "text": "community here. Um, hey, check out I sat"}, {"end": "01:31:43", "start": "01:31:38", "text": "down with uh Tucker Carlson um in his"}, {"end": "01:31:45", "start": "01:31:41", "text": "studio yesterday and we had a"}, {"end": "01:31:49", "start": "01:31:43", "text": "wide-ranging discussion about how the"}, {"end": "01:31:52", "start": "01:31:45", "text": "media like manufacturers consent for war"}, {"end": "01:31:54", "start": "01:31:49", "text": "um and how very few like anti-war voices"}, {"end": "01:31:55", "start": "01:31:52", "text": "really are allowed on television. We had"}, {"end": "01:31:57", "start": "01:31:54", "text": "a pretty great discussion. So, check"}, {"end": "01:31:59", "start": "01:31:55", "text": "that out on the Tucker Carlson network."}, {"end": "01:32:01", "start": "01:31:57", "text": "And it was great to great to hang out"}, {"end": "01:32:03", "start": "01:31:59", "text": "with Tucker for a few days. I haven't"}, {"end": "01:32:04", "start": "01:32:01", "text": "got a chance to to see him for a few"}, {"end": "01:32:06", "start": "01:32:03", "text": "months. That was really great. So, check"}, {"end": "01:32:07", "start": "01:32:04", "text": "that out as well. And thank you guys so"}, {"end": "01:32:09", "start": "01:32:06", "text": "much for being a part of our community"}, {"end": "01:32:12", "start": "01:32:07", "text": "here. We really appreciate it. We are"}, {"end": "01:32:14", "start": "01:32:09", "text": "the largest anti-war show on YouTube. We"}, {"end": "01:32:17", "start": "01:32:12", "text": "are the largest anti-war show on Rumble."}, {"end": "01:32:18", "start": "01:32:14", "text": "And I It feels good. It feels good. It's"}, {"end": "01:32:20", "start": "01:32:17", "text": "kind of crazy, but back in the day,"}, {"end": "01:32:22", "start": "01:32:18", "text": "you'd have all sorts of Democrats and"}, {"end": "01:32:25", "start": "01:32:20", "text": "everyone really, you know, anti-war. No,"}, {"end": "01:32:27", "start": "01:32:22", "text": "now you get mocked. Now you get mocked"}, {"end": "01:32:30", "start": "01:32:25", "text": "and you call you get called unpatriotic"}, {"end": "01:32:32", "start": "01:32:27", "text": "if you if you don't support nuclear war."}, {"end": "01:32:34", "start": "01:32:30", "text": "It's an astonishing turn of events. But"}, {"end": "01:32:36", "start": "01:32:32", "text": "so thank you for being anti-war. Thank"}, {"end": "01:32:38", "start": "01:32:34", "text": "you for joining us here and we will root"}, {"end": "01:32:39", "start": "01:32:36", "text": "out the wararm mongers wherever they"}, {"end": "01:32:41", "start": "01:32:38", "text": "hide. Thank you guys for being here."}, {"end": "01:32:42", "start": "01:32:39", "text": "We'll be back tomorrow at 400 p.m."}, {"end": "01:32:45", "start": "01:32:41", "text": "Eastern time. Have a great night"}, {"end": "01:32:45", "start": "01:32:42", "text": "everyone."}]

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Multiple government"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "agencies went out of their way to"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "protect this criminal while sabotaging"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "anyone who got in their way, including"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "whistleblowers."}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "So, what's exactly going on here? Mark"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "Harris is that pilot who in many ways"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "had his life destroyed by the federal"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "government and he joins us now to tell"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "his story. Mark, thank you for joining"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "us. Thank you for having me. Been very"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "much looking forward to this."}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "Well, maybe you can walk our audience"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "back here and sort of set the stage for"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "what unfolded and and how this happened."}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "Well, uh let me start towards the end"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "and then we'll rewind. Uh when you know"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "really all hell broke loose in my life"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "uh was in uh early 2010. Um I had been"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "battling for since 2008. 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The perpetrator, it was my"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "ex-fin convicted white supremacist uh"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "some sort of imperial wizard of sorts."}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "on uh January uh 21 of 2010,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "I emailed the Knifeville Police"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "Department wanted to make an appointment"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "to go in to report a murder that my kid"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "said uh told me that they witnessed a"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "gruesome murder uh that was followed up"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "by hanging the body from a tree and"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "burning it. um"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "that they both witnessed and ultimately"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "ended up testifying to uh just uh the"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "very next day I went and got my annual"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "uh medical exam for the FA which you"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "know it's a routine thing I've been"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "doing for 11 years with no issues of"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "course it was a pre with no issues there"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "was nothing out of the ordinary to"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "report so January 25 days after I"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "emailed the nice police department who"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "would who never responded"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "Uh, Michael Nobles, my ex-father-in-law,"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "who was holed up in South America,"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "hiding uh, in South America until things"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "blew over, emailed uh, Delta Airlines"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "customer service with this litany of"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "allegations against me that I came to"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "work drunk and I lied on my job"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "applications, uh, false allegations"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "about my mental uh, mental health, about"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "my military service, and so forth."}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Now, let me backtrack a little bit. The"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "Knightville Police Department never"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "responded to that email and that was the"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "third time I tried to report this murder"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "to the Knightsville Police Department."}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "Go back to the previous November. I"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "tried to make a report. I was faced with"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "a bad cop bad cop routine where"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "Nashville Police officer and saying what"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "a mob hit man Joe Joseph Joey Forion"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "threatened to arrest me if I filled out"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "an affidavit and threatened to go after"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "my job with false allegations that I was"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "mentally ill."}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "Um, rewind prior to that and back to"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "2009,"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "um, I had tried to contact the Nashville"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Police Department saying I wanted to"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "make an appointment to report this"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "murder. They stalled for time. I said,"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "\"Yeah, come in next week.\" In the"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "meanwhile, the murderer himself was on a"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "plane with his family to South America"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "where they went into hiding for about a"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "year or so. So, back to uh 2010."}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "Um, I'm trying to get this murder uh"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "investigated."}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "Uh, and uh, February 8th, I show up to"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "work like normal, you know, uh, check"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "in, log back into the computer to uh,"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "uh, print out my schedule, and I've been"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "removed from the schedule. Next thing"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "you know, at Delta Airlines, actually, I"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "I I the email went to Delta Airlines."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "Uh, I I I was working at Atlantic"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Southeast Airlines."}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "they forwarded the the the email to to"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "the airline I worked for. So, I get"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "removed from the schedule. I'm uh"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "escorted to the chief pilot's office,"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "escorted from the chief pilot's office"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "to the director of human resources,"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "James Bberry. This is not in my book. My"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "book is Houses of the Holy, uh, because"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "I just learned about it a couple of"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "months ago. It turns out James"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "Brimberry, just like my"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "ex-father-in-law,"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "uh is a at least an accused sexual"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "predator, uh he's now being held without"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "bond in Georgia for raping and torturing"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "foster kids, exploiting foster children"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "in child pornography. Uh just like my"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "ex-finer"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "parent, both of them hiding beyond"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "religion. Um, so, uh, it turns out"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "Brimberry had been communicating with"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "nobles and niceful police officer, Joey"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "Forgion. So, they were setting me up to"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "sabotage my career. Um, Banberry forces"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "me to uh uh uh go get an evaluation."}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "I've got the email over here. Let's see."}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Uh,"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "uh, what uh, demands I go see the our"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "flight surgeon. They referred to him as"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "our flight surgeon and our company"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "doctor. Well, the doctor they sent me to"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "was not the company doctor. The company"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "didn't have a doctor. He was a"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "handpicked doctor was about to engage in"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "a career assassination of me. Another"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "right-wing extremist just like my ex-fin"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "uh um Charles Richard Harper. Dr. Harper"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "was a pal of Dr. Michael Barry, the"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "FAA's top doctor at the time. Uh Dr."}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "Barry was a former medical uh director"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "for Johnson Space Center. His uh father"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "was the uh uh doctor at NASA who picked"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "the Apollo astronauts."}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "Dr. Barry has been featured in the"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "Washington Examiner and the San"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "Francisco Chronicle as the author of the"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "Barry Scheme. It was a scheme devised to"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "target whistleblower pilots to sabotage"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "their careers. So, um I'm subjected to a"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "completely illegal your analysis. Uh"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "illegal because there was no reasonable"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "suspicion. Um"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "allegation from a madman federal convict"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "hiding in South America whose motive was"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "obvious. Uh was not uh is not reasonable"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "suspicion for a drug test. Anyway, I"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "pass of course with flying colors. So,"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "Dr. Uh uh Harper then demands I go see a"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "psychiatrist for a psychological"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "evaluation."}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "Um again a handpicked psychiatrist that"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "they're paying off uh through doctor"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "reports."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "another ultra right-wing ext extremist a"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "racist uh u based on his social media"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "posts uh you know pro-CIA isophobic guy"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "um and uh sends me to this Dr. Michael"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "Haberman who performs in his"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "psychological evaluation."}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "I go home uh and the next day I'm uh"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "arrested, handcuffed, shackled, locked"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "in a holding cell for six days in"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "Florida, labeled crazy."}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "Um pending a psychological evaluation."}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "Um wait, they can just arrest you"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "because a doctor says that you failed"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "for allegedly making a false report of"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "murder. Although I never actually made a"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "report because they blocked me from"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "making a report and threatened me when I"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "tried to make a report. So, uh, and the"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "murder happened."}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "There's zero doubt in my mind the murder"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "happened. I don't know who the victim"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "was. You know, it's never been solved"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "because it's never been investigated. To"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "this day, even though both of my kids"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "testified"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "uh as a result of being forced to"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "testify against me, their father, it"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "blew up in the prosecutor's face. They"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "testified that their felon uh"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "grandfather had an arsenal of weapons,"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "murdered a man, and took the body uh to"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "the woods and hung it from a tree and"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "burned it and made them watch. And one"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "of my sons dropped a big bombshell that"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "there was a man accompanying him,"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "dressed up like a police officer. Now,"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "you put that in the context that the"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "Okaloosa County Sheriff's Department"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "armed this man as a felon, handed over"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "an arsenal of weapons to him. The"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "Knifeville Police Department destroyed"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "evidence, computer equipment, helped get"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "rid of some of his guns and so forth. I"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "mean, the law enforcement agencies in"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "Florida were running around in circles"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "cleaning up after this guy frantically"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "and repeatedly trying to frame me and"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "label me crazy, even though there was"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "absolute proof of the state and federal"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "firearms violations, absolute proof of"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "sexual abuse. Um, I believe there was a"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "preach of murder, but there were five"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "identified crime scenes identified by"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "the kids that were never examined. No"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "witnesses were ever interviewed. And to"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "this day, my children have never been"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "interviewed regarding the murder they"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "testified to. Law enforcement refused to"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "interview them, refused to take a"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "report. So, so anyway, uh, so now I'm"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "fighting for my freedom and my career."}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "Uh, by the way, they try to frame me in"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "two counties in Florida simultaneously."}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "Um, Walton County and Oklahoma County."}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "So, uh, so then I'm scheduled for a full"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "battery of psychological tests with the"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "Dr. Fiona Hill, which I passed with"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "absolute flying colors. Uh, in fact, she"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "says I'm doing exceptionally well given"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "the circumstances."}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "Um, so Dr. Harper then uh sends this"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "email this or not an email pack this"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "this letter to the headquarters at FAA"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "uh and says uh asked that I be put in a"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "uh uh given a special issuance medical"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "certificate and be put in a program for"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "alcoholics"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "claiming I have a history of alcohol"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "abuse that they pulled out of thin air."}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "Uh the very next day, this woman in"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "Oklahoma City"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "uh plants affect DUI in my records. Um"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "and uh then uh the Dr. William Mills uh"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "who's had no"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "uh no authority to to take any action on"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "my medical certificate sends me a letter"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "saying my application"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "dated the prior January disclosed the"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "history of alcohol abuse and that"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "application was denied. Well,"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "we're getting into details of rules"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "here, but that after 60 days, that"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "application could not be denied. It's"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "written in stone. Furthermore, the"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "application didn't disclose anything"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "regarding alcohol because there was"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "nothing to disclose. So, now we're"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "talking about complete smoke and mirrors"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "here. U absolute criminal fraud. So,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "like So, c can we back up a second? So,"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "this you said a a woman in Oklahoma City"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "Yeah. just puts a DUI on your record."}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "Like, how does that happen? Exactly. You"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "know, and and as of March of this year"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "and my foyer request, they still refused"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "to explain where this mythical DUI came"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "from. It appeared in uh the notes in my"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "FA records. I uh um I ended up getting"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "my FA medical records and there was an"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "entry oddly worded. It says releasing to"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "DUI as requested. Uh well, I'm about to"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "come up to a report written by another"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "doctor that says I had a DUI in 1998,"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "claimed I had treatment in the military"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "and everything. All of it absolutely"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "totally made up. So, you've never had a"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "DUI? No. No. Never had an evil uh and uh"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "or anything like it. So, had you ever"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "been to Oklahoma City?"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "No. No. No. No. No. This this was an FAA"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "employee who in Oklahoma City FA"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "headquarters in Oklahoma City who who"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "put this in my record. Um, so it seems"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "like I mean if it just if sitting back"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "from it seems like this is a massive"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "like coordinated"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "attack on you. Oh, absolutely it was."}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "And and you know um"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "fast forward I asked for my medical"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "records. So then they changed their"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "story. I get a letter from a Dr. Steve"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "Goodman in the Pacific region uh of the"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "FAA where I've never worked or lived."}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "So, I there's no reason this guy should"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "be sending me a letter saying my appeal"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "of my medical certification was denied"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "due to a history of alcoholism."}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "So, now they've denied an appeal I never"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "made to prevent me from appealing and"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "changed alcohol abuse to alcoholism,"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "even though I'd never been diagnosed"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "with alcoholism or never had the"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "symptoms of alcoholism."}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Uh then I ended up getting issued this"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "special issuance medical certificate"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "labeling me as defective basically"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "limiting me to being a first officer"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "because uh you know I have to have a"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "first class medical to be a captain. Um"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "labeling me as an alcoholic. The that"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "special issuance medical certificate was"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "total fraud as well. I never requested"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "it. I never had an exam for it. I never"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "filled out an application for it. they"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "just gave it to me. So again, they gave"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "me a fake medical certificate. Um and uh"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "and then fast forward, you know, I know"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "we got limited time. Fast forward uh"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "with a year later on a whole lot of"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "stuff was going on in Florida relative"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "to my ex-fin stalked, harassed, and"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "threatened and death threats and so"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "forth. Um so the next year they say, uh"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "I have to get a psychological evaluation"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "annually for this program. They put me"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "in this abominable program. Um, uh, I"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "know Carlen Pett mentioned it in her"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "book. It's called the the HIMS program"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "riddled with privacy abuses and just,"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "you know, awful program to say"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "supposedly save pilots careers who get"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "DUIs and so forth. So, they put me in"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "this program and uh I'm forced to use"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "the very doctor who committed the fraud"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "as my sponsor. Even though there are 40"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "plus sponsors in the whole system, two"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "in Florida where I live, I'd have to fly"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "to Atlanta to use the guy who sabotaged"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "my career, Dr. Harper, as my sponsor and"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "pay him for the fraud he committed. Um,"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "so again, fast forward a year, I have to"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "get an annual psychological evaluation."}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "another handpicked psychiatrist, another"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "old ex-military doctor, excuse me, who"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "uh finds I don't meet criteria for"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "alcoholism or alcohol abuse. Then Dr."}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "Harper's not happy with that. Gets him"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "to amend his report, claiming uh that I"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "have a history of alcoholism"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "uh from the military, which again they"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "made up. Uh so he's amended his report."}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "Fast forward another year. Um, I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "starting to a lot of people are starting"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "to raise questions about this. I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "having to go through all these programs"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "and meetings and everything and the"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "people involved are saying, \"Why are you"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "here? You don't belong here. Trying to"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "get me released.\" And Dr. Harper clams"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "up, lawyers up. And uh uh it's time for"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "my annual psychological evaluation"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "again. I I get a referral. I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "uh a guy who's fully qualified, used by"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "this program, authorized by the FAA to"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "do it. They refused to take his"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "evaluation, say, \"I got to go back to"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "the doctor who admitted his report and"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "lied the year before.\" Uh or else. Uh"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "and uh that's when I threw my heads up,"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "said enough was enough. I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "appeal this. I ended up put out of work."}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "Um uh my unemployment blocked uh my"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "appeal for my unemployment blocked. Uh"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "blacklisted in the whole state of"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "Georgia. Couldn't get a job. Ganged up"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "in court by Sally Quillian Yates, the"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "former acting attorney general. Stuart"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "F. Delery, former White House uh chief"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "counsel, four other top FA and DOT"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "attorneys, simultaneously ganged up with"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "six law firms hired by hired by two of"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "these doctors. Um, and the company hired"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "uh uh two law firms to gang up on me and"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "I'm representing myself trying to"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "address all this in court because I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "broke. No lawyer will represent me. I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "out of money, you know, and uh they"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "target me with the threats from the IRS"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "to seize my assets. Uh you know, I'm uh"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "somebody threatens to burn my house down"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "if I don't drop the case and so forth."}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "So, uh that's where I ended up in 2013."}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "And uh since I've clawed my way back, I"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "still don't have a medical. Can't hold"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "the medical uh because I won't lie from"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "the government. But uh I am back in"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "aviation. Uh ironically, I'm actually"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "authorized by the FAA. I issue uh pilots"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "licenses. I perform exams for pilots."}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "you know, I determined their safety, but"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "I can't fly an airplane because I won't"}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "lie to the ground of them. Um, in total"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "in Florida, they fly to frame me seven"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "times. Uh, and one time they actually"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "locked me in a cage for six days, no"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "change of clothes, no visitors, denied"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "bond. Um, and uh, you wouldn't believe"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "the the things they pulled to cover this"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "man's track, you know, like the sheriff"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "bailing him out of jail personally uh,"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "and so forth. So,"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "so I know you're kneede in it. You've"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "been kneede in it for years"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "and all of these details come flooding,"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "you know, out of your brain. I'm sitting"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "here trying to wrap my head around why"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "would they go to such great lengths to"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "protect this person? So, at the heart of"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "it, it seems that's what they were"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "doing. This this individual who"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "committed these murders. The federal"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "government was going out of its way to"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "protect and shield this guy. And when"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "you raised questions about him murdering"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "people, yeah, they came after you. Do I"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "understand that correctly? Well, they"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "came after me when I reported sexual"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "abuse. a therapist when they kidnapped"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "the kids, a therapist made a a report"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "that required an Amber Alert. Um, they"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "tried to frame me in two counties and"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "through the Florida Department of Child"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "Families for false reporting uh for"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "making that report that I didn't make,"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "which was not false. So, that's that's"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "kind of how the things got kicked off."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "Um, so again, three avenues trying to"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "frame me on a report made by a therapist"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "and then fast forward. So a therapist"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "made this report. Yeah. That the"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "children were being sexually abused by"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "your ex-father-in-law"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "and that they were she had grave concern"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "for their physical safety because they'd"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "been kidnapped. And a child protection"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "investigator, Jennifer Clark, uh, found"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "my kids. One of them had been beaten"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "black and blue, had a badly infected"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "black eye that he'd been assaulted by"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "one of my ex-wife's family members. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "she covered that up, tried to frame me"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "for false reporting, told my ex-wife to"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "hide the kids and file a false"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "restraining order against me while she"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "was trying to put me in prison."}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "And uh, and this just that that that"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "pattern continued. I mean, the uh the"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "EEOC, the Department of Health and Human"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "Services, the US Department of Labor,"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "you wouldn't believe the pile of"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "records. I have all these agencies"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "lying, spending, stone lawing, big shot"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "officials from the Justice Department. I"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "have letters with their signatures, you"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "know, uh Roy Austin, Calvin Shivers, big"}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "shots to the Justice Department and FBI"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "claiming that there were no federal"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "crimes committed. I can document dozens"}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "of federal crimes that have been"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "committed. Crimes committed against me"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "as sabotaging my career. Federal crimes"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "in this debacle of the FAA, federal"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "firearms violations, you know, uh"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "federal crimes of, you know, child"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "pornography and so forth. And uh"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "but that, you know, that suspend I'm"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "just the crazy guy making false"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "allegations. There ended up being at"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "least 18 reports regarding my kids. Uh"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "none of them received any investigation."}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "Law enforcement refused."}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "Reports made by a medical doctor, a"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "psychiatrist, a psychologist, a"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "therapist, a school principal, a law"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "enforcement officer, all basically made"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "to disappear into a black hole. Now,"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "I've gone through all the records. I've"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "decoded who did it, how they did it, how"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "they made this happen. And that's, you"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "know, complicated and and more in depth"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "than we have time for in this interview."}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "But it was extremely transparent. This"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "man was being protected and anybody who"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "tried to expose him was going to be"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "targeted. And I wasn't the only one."}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "There was another uh family who tried to"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "help me and my kids that my ex-fined"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "uh you know as a means to you know pass"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "threats and so forth. They decided to"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "help me and testify for me and my kids."}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "And they were harassed by local law"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "enforcement, by child protection"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "services, by my father-in-law,"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "threatening their kids, threatening, you"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "know, harassing her elderly mother,"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "riding his motorcycles back and forth in"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "front of her house just to harass her."}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "You know, he threatened to slit my kids"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "throats and shoot and kill me, kill my"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "kids pets. Um, you know, just terrorize"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "anybody who got in his way with"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "immunity. Um, so,"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "so why were they trying to protect this"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "guy? Have you gotten to the heart of"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "well why the federal government was"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "going out of tangled web of uh"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "right-wing extremists uh neo"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "confederates"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "um uh uh organized crime and he was"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "involved in these shell corporations"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "created by this guy in South Florida who"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "through him you've got mobsters"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "international weapons traffickers"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "politicians"}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "uh you know two known associates who uh"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "were advised measures to to two"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "different presidents. Um, so, you know,"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "I've spent many many years trying to"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "answer that question, the why. Um, you"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "know, I I don't know that there's a one"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "answer, but uh"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "I put all the It sounds like a Jeffrey"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "Epstein kind of story, you know, like"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "all of these people. We haven't got into"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "that part yet, and I'm glad you make"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "that up because I found a network of"}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "people. I found other related cases. Uh"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "uh one particular involving foster kids"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "where neighbors said these this whole"}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "family including the foster kids"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "disappeared in the middle of the night."}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "Uh I think it was back in 2001 leaving a"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "cash of child pornography and cameras"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "and computer equipment and stuff behind."}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "Uh the foster parent, excuse me, I'm"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "getting over pneumonia literally, but uh"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "the foster parent in that case was a"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "French national, French citizen. and uh"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "uh you know I'm not being trying to be"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "political here but uh this is a thing I"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "found on the internet recently. He was a"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "contributor to the National Republican"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "Republican Congressional Committee and"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "uh here and he had business partners"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "that were one was a Pentagon official,"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "one was a uh uh a Church of Christ"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "minister and all and my ex-fin was a"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "Church of Christ elder."}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "Uh all of his business partners were"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "Church of Christ deacons and elders. uh"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "all involved in all sort of shady"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "activities and tied to shady characters,"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "hiding behind religion. Uh he uh married"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "my ex father-in-law married a minor uh"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "became a Christian school board"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "president, youth group chaperon for uh"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "teenagers, a deacon in charge of"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "children's programs in another church."}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "So pretty much fits the profile. And you"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "know, I saw three times on three"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "different computers of his evidence of"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "child pornography, particularly young"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "children and incest. So, I mean, we know"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "the government's, we've covered it"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "extensively here on the show,"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "the government's deep involvement with"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "the child sex trafficking operations"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "under the Biden administration"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "specifically, but going back well into"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "the Clinton years through these NOS,"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "these non-governmental organizations,"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "protecting protecting members of the"}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "federal government,"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "using all sorts of nefarious uh, you"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "know, setups to to"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "hand these children off, make them"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "disappear."}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "Um, it's a massive operation. So, do you"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "think that your ex-father-in-law was a"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "part of that? Absolutely. No, no"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "question whatsoever. And, uh, and again,"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "I've been able to decode the formula"}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "they use. You literally had I mean this"}, {"end": "00:26:05", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "is Orwellian stuff and it sounds like"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "you know stuff of conspiracy theories"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:05", "text": "but and this stuff really happened. You"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "you have a situation where you have"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "victims of human trafficking being"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "provided by the state foster kids. Then"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "you have the agency who's placed these"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "kids in these homes being used as an"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "alibi for law enforcement agencies to"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "say we don't have to investigate those"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "crimes because the agency who put the"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "kids there says nothing happened. you"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "know, uh, and, uh, of course, as you may"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "you probably know, and I know, I've"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "learned the hard way that child"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "protection a agencies have no authority"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "whatsoever to investigate crimes against"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "children. They're there to help provide"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "services, to help provide, you know,"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "placement of children who who are"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "removed from their parents and so forth."}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "But if a if an allegation if there's an"}, {"end": "00:27:03", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "allegation of a crime against a child,"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "law enforcement is bound to document"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "that and a report assign it to an"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "investigator and investigate. But"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "through 18 reports, they refused to do"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "that in my case and kept using the the"}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "Florida Department of Children and"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "Families as an alibi, while the Florida"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "Department of Children and Families was"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "funneling cases to the same three"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "investigators over and over again,"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "blocking other investigators from"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "completing investigations."}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "And those three investigators were"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "shredding documents, falsifying reports,"}, {"end": "00:27:35", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "trying to label me crazy or bring false"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "reporting cases against me. Not only"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:35", "text": "that, they went beyond that. They kept"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "over and over again trying to put my"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "kids in the home of this monster,"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "knowing he was a monster, to shut them"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "up so he could control them. Uh they"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "they they blocked my kids from getting"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "mental health care services. I mean, I"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "made sure they did, but there were"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "services available at the child advocacy"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "center. They blocked that. Uh they"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "didn't want my kids talking, period. So,"}, {"end": "00:28:05", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "but my kids did talk and they talked to"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "anybody who would listen."}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:05", "text": "And do they talk today? I mean, do do"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "they talk about this case? Uh, they"}, {"end": "00:28:14", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "don't like to talk about it. My my uh uh"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "my youngest at the time, I'm remarried,"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "have a new family, two young kids. U my"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "my my older boys are grown now. They"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "they've been with me, you know. Uh their"}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "mother, you know, I don't know what I"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "thought she was done with all this, you"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "know. I thought she had separated"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "herself from all this. But I learned a"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "couple years ago, she and her new"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "husband and some other family members"}, {"end": "00:28:43", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "are all with her father and mother on a"}, {"end": "00:28:45", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "little family compound in Harrison,"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:43", "text": "Arkansas, the headquarters of the"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "Knights of the Cuc, which is ultimately"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "what this guy really is. Um, uh, my"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "oldest son, he will talk about it some."}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "He doesn't like to. I don't I try not to"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "bring it up uh too often, but he has a"}, {"end": "00:29:06", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "very clear memory of the events. Um um"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "you know, my my uh my 21-year-old"}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:06", "text": "doesn't really remember the the bad"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "things. Um I just kind of blocked it"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:11", "text": "out. He was only four at the time. So,"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "when did you learn about that? Like that"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "your that your children were being"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "sexually assaulted? I mean, where were"}, {"end": "00:29:25", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "you? Were they Were you guys separated"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "at the time or divorced? And they were"}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:25", "text": "We had just separated and uh they almost"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "immediately began being sexually abused"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "by my ex-wife's younger sisters who were"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "adolescence at the time. My kids were"}, {"end": "00:29:40", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "four and six years old. They were"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "molesting other kids because guess what?"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:40", "text": "They had been molested. And uh um that"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "led to multiple reports were made, shut"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "down, no investigation. I finally had to"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "file a restraining order to protect the"}, {"end": "00:29:57", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "kids because she wasn't protecting them"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "and I had no other way of doing it."}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:57", "text": "That's when he uh plotted to bake her at"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "me, had me try to have me involuntary"}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "committed for psychological observation"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "for believing my kids were molested"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "uh and ended up kidnapping kids. Uh let"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "me read you I know we're getting running"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "out of time. A few excerpts of what some"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "of the professionals have said. This is"}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "a woman who specialized in treating"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "trauma sexual trauma victims in the"}, {"end": "00:30:28", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "Navy. Uh post-traumatic stress disorder."}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "Both display significant post-traumatic"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:28", "text": "stress disorder symptoms. There's no"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "question. Uh because of their absolute"}, {"end": "00:30:37", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "fear of their grandfather because of"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "their reports of sexual contact, sexual"}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:37", "text": "abuse. One of the boys described he was"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "made to bleed and the other witnessed"}, {"end": "00:30:46", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "that. Made to bleed. Yes. Anal"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "penetration, sir. very specific about"}, {"end": "00:30:51", "start": "00:30:46", "text": "that. Also very specific that the"}, {"end": "00:30:53", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "grandmother got a tissue very specific"}, {"end": "00:30:58", "start": "00:30:51", "text": "detail. Now I've got tons of this, you"}, {"end": "00:31:00", "start": "00:30:53", "text": "know, lots of different people. Um, uh,"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:58", "text": "chronic post-traumatic stress disorder."}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "Uh,"}, {"end": "00:31:06", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "let's see. I mean, this stuff is awful."}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "How did you I mean, as a father, I guess"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:06", "text": "you having to take pictures of his"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "sibling being offended, you know. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "and Gabe was forced to take pictures of"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "his little brother uh being sexually"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "abused along with the other two girls"}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "and there were multiple perpetrators and"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "they drew pictures of it. One of the"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "guys is wearing a ski mask so he can't"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "be identified. The grandfather is"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "wearing a gun, you know, and uh just"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "like this Brimberry guy, this HR"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "representative who went on to Delta"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "Airlines uh you know it's one of the"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "things in the police report. He was"}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "using a firearm to coersse children in"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "the you know young children under 10"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "years old in sex acts."}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "Has"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:47", "text": "it's so unbelievable. I mean has what is"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "Delta Airlines kind of official"}, {"end": "00:31:56", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "statement about this? Have they ever"}, {"end": "00:31:58", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "spoken publicly about this and no"}, {"end": "00:32:00", "start": "00:31:56", "text": "apologized to you? And that and that's"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:58", "text": "why I'm here with you. Uh, and I and I"}, {"end": "00:32:05", "start": "00:32:00", "text": "and I really appreciate people like you"}, {"end": "00:32:07", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "out there because you would think the"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:05", "text": "program manager for equal opportunity at"}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:07", "text": "Delta Airlines being arrested for raping"}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "and torturing foster kids and exploited"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "them in child pornography would be a big"}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "story. The press will not report it."}, {"end": "00:32:21", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "They won't report it. I've reached out"}, {"end": "00:32:23", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "to Atlanta General Constitution."}, {"end": "00:32:26", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "Uh, there was a little blurb of the"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:23", "text": "police blott in the Jasper newspaper"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:26", "text": "where where he lived. That's it. No one"}, {"end": "00:32:35", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "will report the story. Uh no one would"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "would report when my ex-father-in-law,"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "you know, was reported 18 times for"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "sexual abuse with no investigation. No"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "one would report when he was caught"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "red-handed with an arsenal of guns and"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "ammo as a felon. Um, no one will will"}, {"end": "00:32:52", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "report any aspect of this except for"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "people like you and podcast, my"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:52", "text": "publisher Chris Milligan. Um,"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "and and that's, you know, it baffles me."}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "I've learned the hard way that these"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "people in powerful positions can keep"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "things out of the press. So,"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "yeah, they can make stories go away."}, {"end": "00:33:15", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "They pressure people. They come after"}, {"end": "00:33:17", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "people. They threaten them in different"}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:15", "text": "ways."}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:17", "text": "I mean, how was with the Catholic Church"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "scandal too, you know, the same things"}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "happened there. and the press would not"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "report that for years. They were"}, {"end": "00:33:29", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "threatened and intimidated by the"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "church. And um you know, it's always"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:29", "text": "it's always a different version of the"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "same story with the Boy Scouts, the"}, {"end": "00:33:40", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "Catholic Church, you know, and you know,"}, {"end": "00:33:42", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "the uh the Olympic uh gymnast and"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:40", "text": "it never ends. Did your f your"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:42", "text": "ex-father-in-law, I'm sorry. Did he"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "worked for Delta? Oh, no, no, no, no,"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "no, no, no. I'm talking about uh the"}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "program manager for Delta Airlines uh uh"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "was the human resources director at my"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "airline. He's the one who set me up uh"}, {"end": "00:34:07", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "to sabotage my career uh colluding with"}, {"end": "00:34:09", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "my ex-father-in-law. Both of them"}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:07", "text": "accused"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:09", "text": "uh pedophiles and child rapists. Both of"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "them former foster parents."}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "Imagine having your"}, {"end": "00:34:21", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "two monsters up there. How high do you"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "think that this goes? And by the way,"}, {"end": "00:34:25", "start": "00:34:21", "text": "whatever happened to that Delta Airlines"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "program manager? Fired, promote,"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "probably promoted. Uh well, no, he's"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "being held without bond, which is where"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "my Yeah. So, yeah. Uh I mean, it it"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "seems like this goes"}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "very very high. It does. Have you been"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "able to track exactly how high this"}, {"end": "00:34:45", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "goes? You were in Florida. Whose"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "attorney general at the time? Was it Pam"}, {"end": "00:34:50", "start": "00:34:45", "text": "Bondi? Pan Bondi. Yeah. So, and you"}, {"end": "00:34:54", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "know, I'm not going to give her personal"}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:50", "text": "credit. Her office deemed my kids crime"}, {"end": "00:34:58", "start": "00:34:54", "text": "victims and awarded them crime victims"}, {"end": "00:35:02", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "compensation to help pay for their"}, {"end": "00:35:04", "start": "00:34:58", "text": "mental injuries. But that was after"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:02", "text": "local law enforcement tried to block it,"}, {"end": "00:35:09", "start": "00:35:04", "text": "saying that no crimes had been committed"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "and I wasn't their father because I'm"}, {"end": "00:35:13", "start": "00:35:09", "text": "not their biological father, but I was"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "always their legal father. So, I drove"}, {"end": "00:35:17", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "to Tallahassee with my pile of records"}, {"end": "00:35:19", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "and camped out at the attorney general's"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:17", "text": "office so somebody would talk to me and"}, {"end": "00:35:23", "start": "00:35:19", "text": "they approved the the crime victim's"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "compensation, which didn't get them any"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "money. It just helped pay for the"}, {"end": "00:35:29", "start": "00:35:24", "text": "treatment. I'll pay for the deductibles"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "and co-pays and so forth. So,"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:29", "text": "um but uh I've got a letter from the"}, {"end": "00:35:38", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "chief inspector of Florida Department of"}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "Law Enforcement, Mark Perez. I got an"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:38", "text": "email from Rick Scott. They're all doing"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "the same thing, all spitting,"}, {"end": "00:35:46", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "deflecting. Uh, oh, you can call, you"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "can contact the the abuse hotline. Well,"}, {"end": "00:35:49", "start": "00:35:46", "text": "you don't, you know, you don't contact"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "the abuse hotline when kids have been"}, {"end": "00:35:52", "start": "00:35:49", "text": "said they've been raped and exploited in"}, {"end": "00:35:55", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "child pornography. That's law"}, {"end": "00:35:57", "start": "00:35:52", "text": "enforcement and at a minimum state law"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:55", "text": "enforcement involved, but if not"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:35:57", "text": "federal. So, right."}, {"end": "00:36:07", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "What do you hope happens next?"}, {"end": "00:36:10", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "Yeah. I want to get the story. You know,"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "uh, the only degree of justice my kids"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:10", "text": "will ever likely see is to have the"}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "public know what happened. You know,"}, {"end": "00:36:20", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "that has been the biggest was a big part"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:17", "text": "of their trauma uh, and a big part of my"}, {"end": "00:36:26", "start": "00:36:20", "text": "trauma. I mean, I I I'm being treated"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "for PTSD because all this"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:26", "text": "is, uh, the retaliation and the smear"}, {"end": "00:36:37", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "and discredit campaign. you know, having"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "having the world say or the the America"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:37", "text": "so so to speak say nothing happened to"}, {"end": "00:36:45", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "you. You imagined it all. It was all"}, {"end": "00:36:49", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "made up because it wasn't made up. And"}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:45", "text": "uh so this is this is my only means of"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:49", "text": "seeing that it's not buried forever. And"}, {"end": "00:36:57", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "I want to educate other people uh so it"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "doesn't happen to them. Uh, I'm hoping"}, {"end": "00:37:03", "start": "00:36:57", "text": "maybe some other people will come"}, {"end": "00:37:05", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "forward uh and and speak out, but uh"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:03", "text": "I've I've said this in other interviews"}, {"end": "00:37:09", "start": "00:37:05", "text": "and I've told my publisher this. This"}, {"end": "00:37:11", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "quit being about my exfather-in-law a"}, {"end": "00:37:13", "start": "00:37:09", "text": "long time ago. There are plenty of"}, {"end": "00:37:16", "start": "00:37:11", "text": "monsters like them out there. This is"}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:13", "text": "about, you know, the people who were"}, {"end": "00:37:21", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "supposed to protect my kids and other"}, {"end": "00:37:25", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "kids from people like him betraying the"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:21", "text": "kids and for whatever reason, whatever,"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:25", "text": "however important he was as an informant"}, {"end": "00:37:32", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "or whatever uh capacity he was an agent"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "for the government, uh he should not"}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:32", "text": "have been given free reign to rape and"}, {"end": "00:37:40", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "torture children. So,"}, {"end": "00:37:43", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "how bad is the foster care system in the"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:40", "text": "United States? horrible. You know, I you"}, {"end": "00:37:47", "start": "00:37:43", "text": "know, I haven't done a massive amount of"}, {"end": "00:37:50", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "research on that, but and I started"}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:47", "text": "looking at how many uh I mean, the"}, {"end": "00:37:55", "start": "00:37:50", "text": "statistics on sexual abuse and human"}, {"end": "00:37:56", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "trafficking of foster kids is horrible."}, {"end": "00:37:58", "start": "00:37:55", "text": "But one of the most horrible stat"}, {"end": "00:38:01", "start": "00:37:56", "text": "statistics is how many of them are"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:58", "text": "missing and nobody cares. That's why"}, {"end": "00:38:05", "start": "00:38:01", "text": "they're so disposable. You know, the"}, {"end": "00:38:07", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "state of Florida twice in writing has"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:05", "text": "stated there's no record that Mike"}, {"end": "00:38:12", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "Nobles was ever a foster parent. Now,"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "I've got his own testimony about being a"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:12", "text": "foster parent, the transcript of it."}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "I've got pictures of some of the foster"}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "kids. I've got a a copies of a journal"}, {"end": "00:38:24", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "that one of the foster kids gave my"}, {"end": "00:38:26", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "ex-wife. But that's how it goes. They've"}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:24", "text": "sanitized his whole record, but they've"}, {"end": "00:38:31", "start": "00:38:26", "text": "deleted those foster kids from"}, {"end": "00:38:33", "start": "00:38:29", "text": "existence. Then you have, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:31", "text": "the case in Walton County where they"}, {"end": "00:38:38", "start": "00:38:33", "text": "disappeared. So, they're disposable."}, {"end": "00:38:40", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "Well, that's how I see it is uh they're"}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:38", "text": "the the perfect victims because they can"}, {"end": "00:38:44", "start": "00:38:40", "text": "just be erased and nobody cares. Nobody"}, {"end": "00:38:45", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "looks for them."}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:44", "text": "That's why the massive child sex"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:45", "text": "trafficking operation of illegal"}, {"end": "00:38:51", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "immigrants is so profitable. Yeah. In"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "the United States, you know, we don't"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "even have their names. They disappear."}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "They're used and abused, sexually"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "abused, turned into sexual, you know,"}, {"end": "00:39:03", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "slaves, disposed of and killed. Y um and"}, {"end": "00:39:05", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "I have concerns that that's what"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:03", "text": "happened to some of these foster kids."}, {"end": "00:39:11", "start": "00:39:05", "text": "You know, I know I know my my ex-wife"}, {"end": "00:39:13", "start": "00:39:09", "text": "had horrible psychological problems from"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "her own abuse and wrote a bunch of very"}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:13", "text": "gruesome things. Uh um and uh you know,"}, {"end": "00:39:24", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "one was a reference to infanticide and b"}, {"end": "00:39:28", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "you know, digging holes to bury"}, {"end": "00:39:31", "start": "00:39:24", "text": "children. Um, she wasn't specific about"}, {"end": "00:39:33", "start": "00:39:28", "text": "the details, but you know, I know my"}, {"end": "00:39:35", "start": "00:39:31", "text": "children saw their grandfather dig a"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:33", "text": "hole to bury an adult and dug the body"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:35", "text": "back up and hauled it out and burned it."}, {"end": "00:39:44", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "So, what's to say he hasn't killed"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "children? I think he probably has."}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:44", "text": "It's safe to say, Mark, this is one of"}, {"end": "00:39:53", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "the most disturbing stories I've ever"}, {"end": "00:39:55", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "heard. And um I I'm I feel awful that"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:53", "text": "you had to go through this. And I hope"}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:55", "text": "that maybe getting the story out there"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "will help bring some justice in some"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "small way to you and your family. Um and"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "hopefully to Delta Airlines, too."}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "Hopefully Delta will respond to this."}, {"end": "00:40:15", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "Yeah. I think they should. I think they"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "need to, you know, uh, well, there was"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:15", "text": "another party involved who authorized"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "all this nonsense with my medical"}, {"end": "00:40:24", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "certification. That's a Brad Shehan."}, {"end": "00:40:27", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "He's still the vice president of flight"}, {"end": "00:40:29", "start": "00:40:24", "text": "operations and Delta Airlines. He"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:27", "text": "circled the wagons, you know, hung me"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:29", "text": "out to dry, uh, because the company got"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "their hands dirty in all this."}, {"end": "00:40:40", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "So, um, you know, he doesn't need to"}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "apologize to me. It'd be nice for him to"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:40", "text": "apologize to my kids for what they"}, {"end": "00:40:45", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "suffered when I got put out of work,"}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "lost my medical insurance while they"}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:45", "text": "were in treatment for"}, {"end": "00:40:53", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "the crimes committed against them and so"}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "forth. So, and well, I'd love to see an"}, {"end": "00:40:57", "start": "00:40:53", "text": "apology from the state of Florida, from"}, {"end": "00:40:59", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "the federal government to my kids as"}, {"end": "00:41:02", "start": "00:40:57", "text": "well. I don't expect to get it, but it'd"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:59", "text": "be nice."}, {"end": "00:41:07", "start": "00:41:02", "text": "Mark Harris, former Delta pilot."}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "Unbelievable story. Um, ASA, thank you"}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:07", "text": "for sharing. That's yeah, ASA pilot. I"}, {"end": "00:41:12", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "never actually worked for Delta. Just"}, {"end": "00:41:14", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "want to clear that. But thank you so"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:12", "text": "much for having me on. I really"}, {"end": "00:41:18", "start": "00:41:14", "text": "appreciate it. Uh we got an audio book"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "coming out in three or four weeks"}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:18", "text": "probably uh that will complement the the"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "books Houses of the Holy. And I just"}, {"end": "00:41:31", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "thank you for helping me get the story"}, {"end": "00:41:31", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "out there. My pleasure, Mark. Thank you."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Well, who could have seen this coming?"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "Uh, pretty much everyone who's been"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "paying attention. The president"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "launching three strikes against Iranian"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "nuclear facilities. Uh, details piling"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "in now that most of them were empty"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "perhaps. Anyway, it didn't stop the"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "president from taking to the airwaves to"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "say it was a spectacular success. Watch"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "this. Tonight I can report to the world"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "that the strikes were a spectacular"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "military success. So we've been"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "digesting all of this. Benjamin"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "Netanyahu coming out praising this"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "strike, this attack. Neocons and war"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "hawks all over media over the past"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "number of hours saying this is"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "absolutely spectacular"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "that in many ways President Trump is"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "like Ronald Reagan. This is a Thatcher"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "Reagan moment. And what Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "just did is not only historic, but"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "they've just protected the entire earth."}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "Donald Trump just prevented World War II"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "by using the United States military to"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "stop it. What does Russia do in all of"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "this? Who President Putin issued a"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "warning? Don't even think about regime"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "change. sending nuclear scientists as"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "well as U as Russian officials to these"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "different nuclear sites. Were they"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "killed in any of these attacks? To"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "analyze all of this, we want to bring in"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "former UN weapons inspector Scott"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "Ritter, who knows more about this than"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "just about anybody. Scott, good to see"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "you. Now that you've had a number of"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "hours to digest this craziness, where do"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "we stand with uh where where do we stand"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "with first of all the assessment of"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "these attacks? What do you make of that?"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "Well, I mean, all I could think of in uh"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "and and as the information came in, do"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "you remember that old Wendy's commercial"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "from the uh the the the 1980s maybe or"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "1990s? The old lady, where's the beef?"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "Where's the beef? Old ladies. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "Yeah. And and that's all I could I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "going, wait a minute, Mr. President, you"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "uh you you you took the most"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "sophisticated"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "um strike package available to the"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "United States military. Um and you flew"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "American troops into harm's way"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "to bomb two facilities that were already"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "bombed twice by the Israelis and"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "anything of value that could be salvaged"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "would have been removed."}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "um and to bomb another facility that the"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "Iranians have been led to believe you"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "were going to bomb for 9 days now. So"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "therefore, there was nothing in there."}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "Uh why did you bomb three empty"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "facilities, Mr. President? Why? And"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "that's the question everybody. This is a"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "grand act of theater. This is the"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "theater of the absurd. Let's take a look"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "at the Iranian program. You remember"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "Tulsi Gabbard recently got in some hot"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "water uh with the internet, social media"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "because, you know, she had testified"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "before Congress back in March that the,"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "you know, the Iranian government um"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "continued not to be pursuing a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "weapons program and no decision had been"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "made to cross that threshold. She also"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "said that that we're very concerned, we"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "being the United States, very concerned"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "about the accumulation of capabilities"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "and rhetoric inside Iran that suggested"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "the fatwa could be reversed prohibiting"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "nuclear weapons. Um, people tend to"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "forget that aspect of her speech when"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "they condemned her when she came out and"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "said the president's contention that"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "Iran, you know, you know, could have a"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "nuclear weapon is a is a valid"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "contention. It is. I wrote an article"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "back in October of last year that said"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "the exact same thing. um this has been"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "known, but what we do know is the"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "Iranians have been bending over"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "backwards to um"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "uh eliminate that concern. Um on the eve"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "of Israel's Pearl Harbor type strike,"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "the Iranians were saying, \"We're ready"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "to sign a treaty rather than have you"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "rely upon a fatwa um an internal uh"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "religious political statement. uh we're"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "willing to sign a binding international"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "treaty that we will not be pursuing"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "nuclear weapons. We're willing to enter"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "a binding agreement that limits our"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "enrichment to 3.75%"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "on and on and on. Um but the things that"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "Tulsi was concerned about and the"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "president claimed to be concerned about"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "the 60% enriched uranium, we didn't blow"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "that up. That's been secured and removed"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "to different sites that we don't know"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "where it's at. You know that uranium"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "conversion plant that we blew up in"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "isvahan that had been evacuated of all"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "of its critical infrastructure prior to"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "the destruction too. Ferdos home to the"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "IR6 and IR8 advanced centrifuges for"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "enrichment capacity that was evacuated."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "Iran's been producing advanced"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "centrifuges IR6 IR8 without the"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "international community knowing how many"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "they've produced for some months now."}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "which means all around Iran there are"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "underground facilities we don't know"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "anything about that had these"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "centrifuges in there. So for the"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "president to come out and say I have"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "destroyed Iran's capabilities is the"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "biggest lie in the world. He bombed"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "three empty facilities and what the"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Iranians are saying about further is"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "true. We just dented it. We didn't break"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "it. We didn't penetrate it. We didn't"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "destroy it massively. It's still there"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "intact. We damaged the entrance and we"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "damaged one of the exits. There's five"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "exits, by the way. So, it's not as"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "though the facility is shut down. This"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "is theater. And then you have to ask"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "your question, why did the president"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "undertake such a dramatic action?"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "According to CNN, uh the United States"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "has communicated to Iran that this is a"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "limited action and there will be no"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "additional strikes. Now, the president"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "said that if Iran doesn't surrender and"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "all that, there will be more strikes and"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "they'll be greater and they'll be easier"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "and all that kind of stuff. But the the"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "bottom line is this strike appears to"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "have been designed so the United States"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "could save face. It's a big nothing"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "burger. Where's the beef?"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "So save face for who? Because if Iran"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "knows that this was a big nothing"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "burger,"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "who who are we saving face from? The"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "Israelis? I mean, so Iran being there,"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "they know they know the truth."}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "Trump. This is about saving. First of"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "all, when we speak of Donald Trump, we"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "can only think about one thing, Donald"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "Trump. He doesn't care about America. He"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "doesn't care about American security. He"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "doesn't care about Israel. He doesn't"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "care about any of that. He only cares"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "about Donald Trump. This is a man who"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "has been running around. I mean, first"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "of all, he got himself in hot water by"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "using the royal we when he talked about"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "Israel's attack against uh Iran, thereby"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "directly implicating himself and this"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "country. Um he then made some outlandish"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "statements about unconditional"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "surrender, the potential of regime"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "change, um which immediately, you know,"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "drew the rebuke of Russia. Don't even"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "think about regime change. And the"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "Iranians saying, \"Bring it on. You know,"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "we're not worried about you.\" Um and so"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "basically Iran was ignoring him. He was"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "demanding that Iran roll over and pee on"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "itself and agree to 0% enrichment and"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "and all this. And Iran just said, \"Pound"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "sand.\" And they kept hitting Israel. And"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "so Trump needed a way out of this. This"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "was a humiliation for Donald Trump. So"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "this strike is Donald Trump's defining"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "moment, his moment of glory, his"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "greatest military victory in the history"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "of military victories according to him."}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "But it was a nothing burger. Where's the"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "beef? Didn't destroy anything."}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "It's a great point. Now, what about the"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "rest of the Where do things stand, do"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "you believe, with their nuclear"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "enrichment? I mean, it it seems like"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "from Tulsi Gabbard's comments, the IAEA,"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "even Russia's own"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "Vladimir Putin yesterday or two days ago"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "sending a message saying, \"I've I've"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "told Israel repeatedly that Iran has no"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "nuclear weapons and they don't they have"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "no intentions of creating nuclear"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "weapons.\" So, I guess I'm just so"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "confused. I I just I don't understand."}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "What are we what are we bombing then?"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "What are we trying to if there are no"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "nuclear weapons and they don't intend to"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "do that?"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "What are we doing and what's left? Well,"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "the Israeli exercise was always an"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "exercise in regime change using the uh"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "nuclear program as an excuse. The United"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "States less so we were there. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "the the plan that Trump bought in on and"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "he signed off on that Israel executed"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "was a regime change plan,"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "decapitation of critical leadership,"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "shock and awe. um and demoralizing by"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "striking nuclear targets and compelling"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "the Iranians to uh confront the fact"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "that they had lost that their gamble had"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "Netanyahu spoke about this often. He"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "said I will"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "use the Nasra against Iran. They tried"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "to kill Ali Kam. They failed but they"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "killed a lot of other people. The Nusra"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "model is leadership decapitation"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "followed by sustained targeting of"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "follow-on leadership to the point where"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "the people lose confidence in the"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "leadership and the system collapses. Um"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "that's what he wanted to have happen."}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "Trump bought into it and it failed"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "within 24 hours. Israel is getting the"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "snot pounded out of it by Iranian"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "missiles and they haven't stopped"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "getting the snot pound out of them ever"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "since. Right now there's a real concern"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "that Israel is indefensible in a couple"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "of days. they run out of interceptor"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "missiles and if Iran doesn't run out of"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "missiles then Iran achieves a strategic"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "victory. So why did they do this? Um you"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "know Trump wants to"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "back out of this. I believe I think he"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "needed to get disengaged from this. So"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "he did this action and this now gives"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "him the ability to say all right the"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "nuclear program is destroyed even though"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "it's not. I'll touch that in a minute."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "Um, and therefore it's incumbent upon"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "Israel and Iran to resolve their issues."}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "But I don't have a say in this anymore"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "because my concern was this nuclear"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "program which my magnificent bombers"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "dropping the biggest bombs in the world"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "with the most destructive potential have"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "completely demolished. And Iran came out"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "and said"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "you didn't do anything. You didn't do"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "anything. which means that the impetus"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "on Iran, the pressure on Iran to"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "retaliate has been"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "that's not there. Not a single regional"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "base was used in support of this attack."}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "Not a single American military resource"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "in the Middle East was used in support"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "of this attack. Everything that was used"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "to support this attack were controlled"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "assets controlled by Strategic Command"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "or Pacific Command. Central Command had"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "no role in this attack whatsoever, which"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "means there's deniability, which means"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "it's difficult for the Iranians to speak"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "of retaliation. If the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "retaliated, then they're the ones"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "escalating and creating, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "problems. This is a chance for Iran to"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "walk away from from um the concept of"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "having to retaliate against the United"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "States. Where do you see the escalation"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "ladder going from here? So, if Iran sits"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "back, does not touch American bases,"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "but continues to bomb the hell out of"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "Israel, if you watch Fox News, if you"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "watch any of the legacy media, they're"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "telling us that most of their ballistic"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "missiles are now destroyed. Their"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "ability to attack Israel is vastly uh"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "incapacitated."}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "Israel is just days away from virtually"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "ending this thing. and that Iran is"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "basically uh you know uh inept at this"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "point um and cannot hit Israel. So is"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "that what's your assessment? Is that a"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "total lie?"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "Well, I don't know. What have you seen,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "Clayton? I mean, because I've seen"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "sensitive intelligence facilities struck"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "with great precision. I've seen Iran"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "move away from firing mass attacks using"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "20-year-old missiles um you know in"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "order to exhaust um Israeli missile"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "defense capabilities uh to shifting to"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "more uh focused attacks using modern"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "missiles that penetrate the missile"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "defense shield at will and strike the"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "most sensitive targets in Israel. Um"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "they did it today, they're going to do"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "it tomorrow. They're going to do it"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "Friday, Saturday. They're going to"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "continue to do it because Iran has a"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "tremendous amount of missiles and"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "missile launchers. Iran has been"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "preparing for this very conflict for 20"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "years. For 20 years, they've been"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "preparing for this. And um it appears"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "that their strategy is working. You"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "know, I mean, Fox News can spin it any"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "way they want to. The Israelis can spin"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "it any way they want to. But um you know"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "it's very difficult to accept the spin"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "when they say oh the the the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "have run out of missiles. Boom. Oh well"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "there went the unit 8200 uh computer"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "processing center in Beeba. Gosh I guess"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "they didn't run out of that. Um and you"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "know the bottom line is the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "have thousands of missiles left. They"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "have hundreds of launchers. They have"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "dispersed this capability all around the"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "country. There is no single place that"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "can be hit to bring this to an end and"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "it will never end for Israel. I I guess"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "where do you think things h over the"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "next 48 hours, Scott? Where, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "as we head into Monday and Tuesday of"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "this week, what do you think we're going"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "to see?"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "I I think we're going to see Donald"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "Trump continuing to talk about the"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "decisive action that he took and how"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "important it is. Um I think we'll see"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "Iran continuing to say how much of a"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "nothing burger this was. uh and that"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "there's no need for anything other than"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "continuing the strike. Israel will"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "continue to receive um you know incoming"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "missiles and uh Russia and China will do"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "their best to condemn the United States"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "in the uh international arena. Um and I"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "see that playing out for you know at"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "least a week. Um and then the United"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "States is going to have to make a"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "decision. Uh do they put pressure on"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "Israel to bring this thing to an end or"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "do they seek to escalate? Um I my only"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "concern with the with Iranian non-action"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "um is that the the United States will"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "believe that Iran therefore is bluffing"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "when it comes to retaliating against an"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "American uh attack. So the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "might have to do something in terms of a"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "demonstration retaliation. Um, you know,"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "but this is what's so dangerous about"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "this because"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "once you begin tit fortat retaliations,"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "it could spin out of control, especially"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "when you have a narcissist um at the"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "helm of the United States military,"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "which is what Donald Trump is, and he's"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "advised by sheer idiots. Um,"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "so we'll we'll see how this uh we'll see"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "how this plays out. But,"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "you know, had the had the United States"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "bombed meaningful targets. Had they done"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "meaningful damage, we'd probably be"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "seeing American bases burning right now"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "in the region and then we'd be looking"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "at"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "some very difficult times. I mean, we"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "may not even be able to have internet"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "connectivity in the aftermath of"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "something like that given the fact that,"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "you know, we'll have a global energy"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "crisis that'll hit us here at home as"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "well. Um,"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "so the the fact that we have this"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "internet connectivity, that we both have"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "functioning power, um, and that we can"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "go to the gas station tomorrow and get"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "gas and that diesel will be available"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "for trucks to deliver the goods to the"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "stores that we reply rely upon for our"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "life is a good thing. And that's because"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "Donald Trump bombed three empty"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "facilities and did no meaningful damage"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "and provided the Iranians the"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "opportunity just to walk away."}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "Well said, Scott. As always, great to"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "see you. Thank you for your analysis on"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "this. Thanks for having me. So, that's"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "the news update part of today's video."}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "But now I want to tell you about today's"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "sponsor which is tied directly in"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "everything we just talked about and an"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "acutely important topic right now and"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "that is how the United States of America"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "is currently making sure that its"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "national security isn't compromised when"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "it comes to the very basics of our"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "economy. So there are many moving parts"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "that I'm tracking closely especially"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "from trade US dollar collapse and my"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "focus though is on materials the bedrock"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "right now of our economy and I want to"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "share with you some critical data in my"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "view. The United States is going to find"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "it hard to compete in the era of America"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "First, where Trump's top priority isn't"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "to help other countries, but to rebuild"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "America's industries after this shameful"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "globalist period. If we don't secure"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "mining of this strategic metal, that's"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "why President Trump has signed executive"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "orders, historic executive orders, to"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "protect copper production and mining on"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "US soil. Copper is often called the new"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "oil. It's at the heart of America's"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "future and I couldn't be more bullish"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "about it, especially when it's coupled"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "with gold. So, copper demand right now"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "is surging while supply struggling to"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "keep pace. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'm a"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "full 10 on domestic US copper"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "production. You know that I've been"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "talking about it for years here on the"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "show. So, that's where this basic and"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "common sense supply and demand comes"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "into my bullish thesis. Global mine"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "production is expected to peak in 2026."}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "Underinvestment in new mines has created"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "a massive supply crunch. The United"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "States and China trade war has disrupted"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "global copper supply chains in a big"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "way. So, we're in desperate need right"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "now of copper mining on US soil."}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "American industries depend on copper and"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "they should be made in America. No"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "exemptions, no exceptions. America first"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "creates American jobs and protects our"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "national security. It's time for copper"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "to come home. So, Giant Mining is the"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "sponsor of today's video. Here is their"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "ticker on your screen. Check this out."}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "Not only does it own a copper, silver,"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "gold project in Nevada, but it also just"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "recorded the best ever drill intercepts"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "in September of 2024 and additional"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "great results just in the past few"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "weeks. That's why I wanted to share this"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "with you today. This company is the only"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "copper company that I'm bullish on right"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "now. It's currently trading for just 16"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "cents a share. That's the same price as"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "of January 2nd before Trump came into"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "office and revived the American copper"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "industry. On February 14th, executive"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "order 14213 was issued and implicitly"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "prioritizes copper as a critical"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "resource. And Nevada, where Giant"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "Mining's copper project is situated, has"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "constantly ranked among the top mining"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "jurisdictions in the world, which is why"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "I'm bringing this company to your"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "attention today. Now, the share price is"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "down 54% since early February due to"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "market turmoil. So, I'm highlighting the"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "company to you today for a reason. Giant"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "Mining owns the Mujaba Hill Copper"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "Project, which is a pass producing mine."}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "In the past four years, management and"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "the company's geologists have actually"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "expanded the copper deposit. And this"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "past September, Giant Mining hit their"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "best ever drill hole. So, the 2025"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "results are right now on your screen."}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "Take a look at this and look at these"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "latest mineralizations of copper that"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "they found. Now, take a look at your"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "screen right now. I'm going to actually"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "leave this up here for a few seconds so"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "you can look at it. These are the"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "highlights of the 2025 drill program."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "And David Greenway, the CEO of Giant"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "Mining, commented on these that Nevada"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "continues to prove itself as a"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "world-class mining jurisdiction, ideally"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "positioned to support the America First"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "policy and bolster domestic resource"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "security. With global copper demand"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "soaring, Majaba Hill offers a compelling"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "homegrown solution to help meet"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "America's significant and growing"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "consumption of copper. End quote. But"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "I've saved the best for last because the"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "drill hole MHB-34"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "had David Greenway, the company's CEO,"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "saying the following. In my entire"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "career, I've never seen drill core like"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "this. It's truly extraordinary. When we"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "began drilling the MHB 34, we had high"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "expectations, but what we encountered"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "exceeded them all. In my entire career,"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "I've never seen drill core like this."}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "The presence of visible native copper"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "beyond 1850 ft is a powerful indicator"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "of the scale and the strength of the"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "mineralized system at Mujaba Hill. This"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "whole reinforces our belief that Mjaba"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "Hill is evolving into a worldclass"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "copper, silver, and gold discovery. End"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "quote. Those are his words. I will say"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "this again. All of these factors and the"}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "following ones are the ones that led me"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "to my bullish opinion about giant"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "mining. The infrastructure is ready."}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "Access roads, power supply,"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "transportation. They have a water"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "supply. They have ore stockpiles. And"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "they have the processing space right"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "there. They have a processing plant. So"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "guys, do your own homework on Giant"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "Mining. Here is their ticker on your"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "screen once again. And we'll see you"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "next time."}]

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Uh,"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "but the Fed may not be able to do that"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "because they have a new war to fund."}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "There is about we were when I checked"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "just a few hours ago approaching 37"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "trillion national debt. It's clear that"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "the US can't afford a new war, but it"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "can if the Fed acts as a venture"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "capitalist for a new war like it does"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "every time. Washington wants one. Uh,"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "former Congressman Ron Paul points out"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "in his fantastic book and the Fed that"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "World War I was funded by, here we go,"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "21% your tax dollars, 56% Fedbacked"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "borrowing, and 23%"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "outright money creation. And that has"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "gotten worse with every subsequent war"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "since World War I. Think about that for"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "a second. 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He's no stranger to this"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "financial cartel. So, what do you think"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "of the Fed keeping interest rates the"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "same and possibly"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "backing a new war?"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "Uh well obviously I do not want them"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "backing any wars. Uh that's number one."}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "Um as you well know we should not have a"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Federal Reserve at all. We should have"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "interest rates set by the marketplace."}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "They do not know what interest rates"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "should be. President Trump does not know"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "what interest rates should be. So it's"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "impossible for him to be better at a job"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "that should not exist. Uh so it would be"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "as if because they're price fixers. You"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "know, if I had two friends and they made"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "an exchange with each other for Nike"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "sneakers for a hundred bucks, I can't go"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "as an outsider say, \"No, no, no, no. I"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "fixed the price at 50. You can't you"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "can't make this transaction.\" Well,"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "that's what fixing interest rates does."}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "They're dictating what prices should be"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "for interest rates. And they do it for"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "themselves and they do it for the"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "government at times, but mostly for"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "themselves. the Fed number one uh their"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "number one priority is the cartel of"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "banks above the nation above"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "presidential policies. What's good for"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "the banks is what they do first."}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "Everything else comes after that. So uh"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "you know and President Trump uh can no"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "better set interest rates either. So"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "yeah, it would be horrible for them to"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "lower rates, give us more inflation. I'm"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "paying enough at the supermarket and"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "everywhere else despite what President"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Trump says that inflation is dead. Uh"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "he's he's he's making that up to to try"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "to say that it's fine for them to"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "inflate more. Well, everybody I know and"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "my my own bills included, inflation is"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "not dead. So, uh you know, it's a"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "lose-lose situation between Fed, uh Pal"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "and Trump. Neither of them know what uh"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "interest rates should be. H how exactly"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "does the Fed fund wars?"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "Well, when interest rates are lower and"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "the government borrows more. So, the"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "government has to borrow money because"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "obviously they have no money. So, they"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "have to borrow either from uh foreigners"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "or from big institutions and then the"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "Fed will step in and pick up the slack."}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "They will print money and buy"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "treasuries. So they are funding the war"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "by printing money out of thin air and"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "then buying the US treasury saying here"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "government use this and uh you know have"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "your war. So that's that's how they fund"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "it. And um you know you mentioned back"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "in 1913 one one other thing that"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "happened then was the income tax right"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "before the Fed was created. It was just"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "for the rich. Just the rich are going to"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "pay the ultimate you know the top top"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "1%. And then once World War I started,"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "it was like a net was pulled up and the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "entire population now everybody's paying"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "income taxes, including us today. So you"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "give them an inch and they will take"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "everything from you. And they sold this."}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "I want to encourage everybody to go out"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "and look for the video that Disney did"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "for the f for the federal government of"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Donald Duck being instructed on how"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "paying taxes was patriotic because we"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "needed to bomb the Nazis. Disney did"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "this piece of propaganda to sell us on"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "the income tax and it was supposed to be"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "temporary. So even though in World War"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "the these numbers we just point out that"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "21% of the war was based on taxation and"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "the rest was all just created but what"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "would that what percent of a new war do"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "you think would be on the American"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "taxpayer and then what would happen to"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "our economy as a result? Well I mean you"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "guys know the numbers the 37 trillion in"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "debt. Uh Natalie made a great point"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "point if they really want to help they"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "could shrink the government. I that was"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "what Elon Trump everything was going to"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "be with Doge. But that got tossed aside."}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "It's a non-issue now. And we find that"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "we're getting big, beautiful bills with"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "more deficits, more debt. So, they're"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "just adding they're going in the exact"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "opposite direction of that campaign"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "which scammed us unfortunately. Uh and"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "uh so they they it would be just more of"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "the same on a greater scale. And we're"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "we're are nothing like you know your"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "previous guest said the last time we um"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "uh voted for a war congress. We are not"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "that country at all. We were a"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "manufacturing powerhouse. We were we had"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "a cohesive culture, a cohesive people"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "that were patriotic. Today half our"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "country hates the other half and hates"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "the leader. Every no matter who the"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "leader is, we're in debt. We manufacture"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "nothing. We're a shell of our former"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "selves and we're going to go fight Iran"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "and possibly Russia and China. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "we're digging our own grave and we're"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "we're commenting on it. It's like we're"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "historians of the in decline here. Uh"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "it's it's a terrible situation that"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "could only be bad. And you know what?"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "The American people do not want it"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "because we just had an election six"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "months ago not to do this and President"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "Trump is just kicking us to the curb."}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "Where do you think we go with a gold"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "standard or move towards a gold standard"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "in the United States? Uh there's been"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "discussion in the Trump administration"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "at least early on that we would use at"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "least a portion of the US dollar in a"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "similar way to what BRICS is doing. So"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "BRICS is not fully on a gold standard."}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "Of course, Russia, South Africa, Brazil,"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "India, China, and all of the what's like"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "20 20 more countries that are now part"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "of bricks as well. It's not fully on a"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "gold standard, but it's backed by gold."}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "It's backed by precious minerals. It's"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "backed by commodities. The United States"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "dollar isn't backed by anything. It's"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "only backed by really the United States"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "military."}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "Exactly. And uh I don't think that the"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "uh the possibility of a gold standard is"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "any time in our near future unless we"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "have a severe severe financial crisis"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "which is always possible especially if"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "you get into a major war. Uh our"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "government does not want it. You know,"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "the empire does not want because a gold"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "standard is a restraint. The the the you"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "and they don't want restraints. They"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "don't even want votes on, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "Congress is they don't even want to vote"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "for war, let alone you're going to"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "restrain us with gold. So, it's it's"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "pretty sad, you know, and they gave us"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "all this talk about Fort Knox. Clayton,"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "you mentioned it. You know, that was"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "another thing that was just thrown away."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "Um, so do I think a gold standard is on"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "the horizon? Not unless there is a"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "severe financial crisis, which you know"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "is where we're headed anyway. But it's a"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "shame because you don't have to go down"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "that road. You can do the right thing."}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "You know, it's like quitting smoking."}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "You don't have to wait until you're you"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "get emphyma. You could stop now, but"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "they have no no uh ambition to stop at"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "all. That's a great analogy. You could"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "stop before it's painful for you to walk"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "up and down stairs. You might want to"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "take that action. Uh Chris, I wanted to"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "just read because Congressman Ron Paul"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "wrote the forward to your book which is"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "called Set Money Free and uh you know I"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "want to promote your book if I can here."}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "So he Ron Paul says Set Money Free is an"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "important work that explains the"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "economic, philosophical and historical"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "case against the Fed. People looking to"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "spread the ideas of liberty should"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "consider buying multiple copies of this"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "book and hand them out to friends,"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "relatives and co-workers. maybe donate"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "it to a local library. He said, \"The"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "reason why ending the Fed is key to"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "restoring liberty, peace, and"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "prosperity.\" Those are Congressman Ron"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "Paul's uh words. So, pick up a copy of"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "Set Money Free. I know you didn't ask me"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "to do that, but I think it's I think"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "it's vital for people to to read it. I"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "mean, read it to your kids so they"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "understand the villain that is the Fed."}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "Thank you, Chris. Thank you."}]

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You know when you see"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "any mainstream media story that there is"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "some kind of spin on it. What you might"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "not know is exactly what that spin is."}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "That's why ground news is there to help"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "you. Uh take for instance Trump's new"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "tariffs. Well, Treasury Secretary Scott"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "Bassant called the recession panic"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "mediadriven, but you don't see that on"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "your usual news feed. ground news can"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "tell you exactly what that panic is from"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "what side. There's proof that the"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "liberal and mainstream media either"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "exaggerates claims or completely ignores"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "facts that don't align with their bias."}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "It's very hard to see unless you know"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "that this is the matrix and you can see"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "it in a binary. That's why ground news"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "will help you. any topic that you want."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "You can search the topic and it will"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "give you a list of how it is covered and"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "then also put a spin on it and actually"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "explain as well. For instance, this is"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "left out or this is unsaid. Uh this new,"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "like I said, GOP poll that says that"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "most Republicans support a strike"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "against Iran by the United States. 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Plus, it helps you see through"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "the spin. So one more time, ground.news"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "redacted. Well, our next guest, Thomas"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "Havlin, was just in Tennessee at the"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "funeral directors association where he"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "was a he was there as a guest speaker,"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "but he asked a pretty remarkable"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "question um to ask all these inbalmers,"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "how many have you been seeing this? And"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "how many of them raised their hand?"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "Thomas, great to see you. Welcome back"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "to the show and thank you for your"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "continued work on shining a light on"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "this horrific"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "really um uh I don't I don't know what"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "the word to to call it would be um"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "epidemic. Could we use that word? Could"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "we call it an intentional What would you"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "say, Thomas? I put the words in your"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "mouth. What would you say this is an"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "intentional destruction of our of our"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "race by these people? I don't know it's"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "intentional or not, Clayton, but it sure"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "is prevalent. You know, we've been"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "tracking these white fibrous clots that"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "these inbalmers have been seeing in"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "their corpses for the last four years,"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "five years actually. It started with"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "COVID with a few of the inbalmers seeing"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "it during CO. Then it uh progressed and"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "exploded in 2021 after the roll out of"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "the co vaccines. But we caught a big"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "break about a week ago. Actually, it"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "started last year when we were running"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "our 2024 worldwide imbalmer blood"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "survey. the president of the Tennessee"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Funeral Directors Association, Mr."}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "Taylor Moore, reached out to me and"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "said, \"Tom, hey, I'd like to have you"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "come speak to our inbalmers and funeral"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "directors at our annual conference"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "coming up in June of 2025.\" And that"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "happened just uh about a week ago on"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "June the 8th. I traveled to Franklin,"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "Tennessee, just south of Nashville, and"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "went to their convention and uh talked"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "to the imbalmers there. We actually have"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "on video footage, Clayton, uh about 30"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "inbalmers and funeral directors raising"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "their hands uh and and about twothirds"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "of them, 18 out of the actually 28 that"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "took the survey and were there in the"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "room that day said they were seeing the"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "white fibrous clots in 2025. So about"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "twothirds of the imbalmers that were at"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "present at that conference and are on"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "video are confirming what we've all"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "known for some time now that these clots"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "are they exist and they are indeed"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "prevalent. In fact we asked them I I"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "took a survey a paper survey of those"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "inbalmers and in that survey of the 28"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "that responded 25 of them actually do"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "active inbalming right now. And of those"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "uh like I said 18 said they were seeing"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "the white fibrous clots and 10 said they"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "were not. So that's a 64%."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "And then when we asked them what"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "percentage of the uh of your bodies are"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "you seeing the clots in that average"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "17%. So one out of every six corpses"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "contains these unusual white fibrous"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "clots still in 2025."}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "Let's um I don't know if there's sound"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "on this or not, but I wanted to show."}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "So, we have the video verification of"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "what you were just talking about here."}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "Is there sound on this? Let's play it."}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "This is you asking these inbalmers, how"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "many of you are seeing this? In fact,"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "inbalmers, can I get a show of hands in"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "the room? How many folks in here are"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "actually doing active involving right"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "now? Raise your hands. Move your hands"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "up. All right. So, this is active"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "inbalming. Of those people, leave them"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "up. Of those people that have um doing"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "active involving, if you're seeing these"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "white fibrous clots over the last few"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "years, keep your hand up. If you're not"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "seeing them, please put your hand down."}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "Okay. So, almost the entire room keeps"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "their hand up when you ask, \"Are you"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "seeing these white fibrous clots?\" How"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "many hands are almost everyone? And like"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "one or two people put their hands down"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "and that was Yeah, that was confirmed in"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "the paper survey that I took later on"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "that day and I allowed the involvers to"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "take it anonymously. And so, so this is"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "a big deal, Clayton. This is the first"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "time we have official acknowledgement"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "from a United States state funeral"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "director association these clots are"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "indeed happening and that they're quite"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "prevalent. In addition to the white"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "fibrous clots um about 70% of the"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "imbalmers and funeral directors said"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "they're still seeing what's called"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "microclots. They describe as what looks"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "like coffee grounds or dirty blood in"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "the corpses. As you're draining the"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "blood off the corpse trying to get the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "formaldahhide in, they see what looks"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "like coffee grounds in the blood. And"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "this is a u indication of a phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "called micro clotting which can be just"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "as dangerous as these white fibrous"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "clots. You know we think these things"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "are causing strokes and heart attacks."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "The micro clotting occurs at the"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "capillary level your very small small"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "blood vessels and it can um block the"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "exchange of oxygen at the lungs and then"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "the carrying of that oxygen to all the"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "major organs of the body including your"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "brain your eyes and the imbalmers were"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "seeing that unfortunately and also about"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "17% of the corpses too. one out of six"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "corpses. Yeah. So, this is a nasty and"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "and uh this is a phenomenon I used to"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "see prior to COVID, but in much less"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "than 5% of their corpses typically in"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "patients that had heavy chemotherapies."}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "This is at least a tripling of the"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "microclotting phenomenon. And of course,"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "these like I said in Balmer with 20 or"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "30 years of experience had never seen"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "the white fibrous clots prior to the"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "years of COVID and then an explosion of"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "them starting in 2021 with the vaccines."}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "So we're talking about correlation,"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "right? We had the pandemic, we had the"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "vaccine roll out and then this is"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "happening. Now something RFK Jr. says"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "many times is we have so many toxins in"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "the American society that we can't know"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "what's causing what vaccines everything."}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "So, but you're saying that this pivotal"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "moment was not when we had oh, I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "know, red dye number five or whatever"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "that there there is a there's a pivotal"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "point that we can observe."}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "Yes, Natalie. Uh, if you look in old"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "pathology books prior to 2020, you won't"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "see these white fibrous clots. There was"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "a condition called white clot syndrome"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "way back in the late 1980s, early 1990s,"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "and that was uh being driven by the drug"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "Hepin. It was some people were having an"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "allergic reaction to hepin that was too"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "strong of a strength. So they actually"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "reduced the uh the strength of that"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "hepin and that helped that problem go"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "away back in the late 80s uh early 90s."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "What's interesting about that is hepin"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "that was actually white clot syndrome"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "based upon the uh element sulfur. This"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "we believe is based on the element"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "phosphorus and the two of them just"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "happen to sit side by side on the"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "periodic table. So we believe the"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "phospholipid nanop particles and the"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "spike protein from either the co virus"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "or the covid vaccine is becoming"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "phosphorolated as well and it's bonding"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "it's binding with our body's natural"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "blood clotting protein called"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "fibbrronogen. We have a blood clotting"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "protein uh called fibbrronogen. It's in"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "a liquid form in our blood plasma."}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "Whenever whenever there's damage done to"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "the endothelial lining of inside of our"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "blood vessels, our arteries and our"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "veins, then that triggers a conversion"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "yeah of that fibbrinogen into a white"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "solid called fibbrin. And it's supposed"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "to look like what's on the left side of"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "the screen there. Nice smooth spaghetti"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "noodles. They kind of form a net and"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "they collect your red blood cells and"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "your platelets and form a nice clot. So"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "whenever you have a cut, that clot will"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "form. And then eventually when the wound"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "is healed, then another enzyme we have"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "called plasmine comes along, attaches to"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "that nice smooth spaghetti, breaks the"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "clot down, and then it goes away. You're"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "good to go again. But look on the right"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "of the screen. Look what happens when"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "the fibbrronogen is combined with a"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "spike protein either from a co virus or"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "from the co vaccine. It becomes all"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "twisted, misfolded. It has all these"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "nasty nodules on it and then it becomes"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "difficult for that enzyme plasmine to"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "break down the clot and then what"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "happens is the clot tends to grow and p"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "persist and become these nasty large"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "white fibrous clots. If you go back to"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "that image for a second and go to the"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "next slide on that one, you'll actually"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "see that uh back up one slide"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "and you'll see a that that image right"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "there. Uh inbalmer Richard Hirschman"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "sent uh about a dozen of the inbalmer's"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "clots that he pulled out of corpses to a"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "neuroscientist in Japan named Dr. Kevin"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "McCarron and he looked at the clots a"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "thin five micrometer slice under a"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "scanning electron microscope at a very"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "high magnification of 5,000 times and"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "look what he sees there from the"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "imbalmer clot. See how uh twisted the fi"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "fibbrin is see how misfolded it is. See"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "all the nodules on there. Now you tell"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "me which one does it look like more"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "Natalie. Does it look more like the"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "smooth spaghetti or does it look like"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "the nasty fibbrin that's in that's in"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "contact with the spike protein from the"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "virus or the vaccine? Yeah. Yeah. It's"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "disturbing. Yeah. So, basically we have"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "visible proof Clayton and Natalie at"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "both the eye level, right? You can see"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "these things. And here's another one."}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "This is a nasty one here. This is a 5"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "and a half inch clot that was taken out"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "of an the abdominal aorta, one of the"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "largest blood vessels in the body."}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "So we have visual proof at the eye"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "level. We also have proof at the"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "microscopic level that the u spike"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "protein from either the virus or the"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "vaccine is doing tremendous damage to"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "the vascular system in a significant"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "number of people. Right? If it's in uh"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "16 17% of the dead, one out of six"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "corpses. Well, it brings into question"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "what percentage of the living are"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "walking around right now with these"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "white fibrous clots forming inside them."}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "Well, that's that was going to be my"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "next question. and and how do we how do"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "we figure that out, right? What is what"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "is the next step to get a real research"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "project going? Well, and how can we"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "solve it? I mean, if I'm walking around,"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "you know, if like, you know, people who"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "got this vaccine or got this spike"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "protein, they're walking around with"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "this somewhere and or they've gotten"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "multiple, they've gotten booster shots,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "they got all this crap floating around"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "in their body."}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "And how do they get it out of there? I"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "mean, is there a way to get it out of"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "there that we know of? Not once these"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "white fibrous clots form there. We don't"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "think there's any way to dissolve them"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "or get them out. Uh I've been in contact"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "with a Kath lab whistleblower from"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Jacksonville, Florida. He's an"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "endovvascular specialist and"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "cardiologist who's been admitted to me."}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "He's been removing these same white"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "fibrous cloths for the last four years."}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "And what he does, he works in what's"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "called a catheterization lab, a cath lab"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "for short. and he goes into the person's"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "body, a living person with flexible"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "catheters that either scrape the clot"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "out, they suck it out with a vacuum or"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "they'll he actually can lasso the clot"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "and pull it out that way as well. So"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "they try uh clot busting drugs like"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "tissue plasmid and activator tpa and"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "they work great against traditional"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "grape jelly clots or what's called"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "chicken fat clots but they don't seem to"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "have any effect at all these white"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "fibrous clots. So the trick is is to not"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "have them form in the first place with"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "the spike protein which we think is"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "causing the problem mainly. So the best"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "way to do that is to uh Dr. Peter Mclla"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "for example recommends drugs or actually"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "natural supplements like nattokynise"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "bromelain curcumin to help detox the"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "body from the spike protein so the clots"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "don't form in the first place."}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "Well Thomas I know you've been on this"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "story for more than like five years now."}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "I think we had you first on. It feel I"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "feel like it's been like 5 years since"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "you've been on this story. Um trying to"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "get people to pay attention to this and"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "it seems like you've broken through"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "finally. Um it's taken a lot of hard"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "work and dedication. I know you and"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "others like Dr. Ruby, Mike Adams have"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "been like calling attention to this over"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "the years. Um and uh what are you hoping"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "what are you hoping for next? What are"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "you hoping for from the Trump"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "administration?"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "Definitely since the Trump"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "administration's in there, Robert F."}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "Kennedy Jr., Dr. Dr. Jay Bodacharia, Dr."}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Marty Machi, um those people, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "I'm hoping that they will now basically"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "relieve me of my job so I don't have to"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "do this anymore and they actually start"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "looking at this problem because like I"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "said, the evidence is is pretty"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "overwhelming that these clots exist."}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "They are prevalent and the the timing"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "with the uh introduction of the co"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "vaccines is very very suspicious. So,"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "you know, I think they need to get off"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "their rear ends, Clayton and Natalie,"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "and do their jobs and and look at this."}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "And I'd be very happy to offer my time"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "for free to work with them to help"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "assist them and running surveys and"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "checking in with inbalmers, funeral"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "directors, cardiologists, vascular"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "surgeons, endovvascular specialists that"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "we that know this problem is happening,"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "but until now have been staying silent"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "about it. Well, I think you're an"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "American hero. Thank you for your"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "service. Thank you for what you're doing"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "and calling attention to this. Um you I"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "know you've been absolutely relentless"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "on this. So thank you so much, Thomas."}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "Great to see you. And uh if there's"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "anything we can always do to help where"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "and I just want to say this, we've never"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "been able to have you live with us on"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "YouTube. We've only ever been able to"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "share your story on Rumble."}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "And I think we've turned a corner"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "because now YouTube has like pulled back"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "on their like anti-COVID discussions and"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "now we can actually have you here live"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "on on YouTube. So this is like I think"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "we're breaking through and it's not"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "being censored in the way that it used"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "to be. So that's good news. There we go."}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "It is. Thanks Clayton. Yeah. Thanks"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "Thomas. to see you as always."}]

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I and I I"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "personally find it hard to take Donald"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "Trump seriously. Yeah. Yeah. He he"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "called out Emanuel Macron for saying"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "that I got important things to do. I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "going back to Washington to do them. He"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "wasn't so desperate to leave, but he did"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "absolutely nothing since he's come back"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "or at least nothing that has been made"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "public. But all of these people are"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "playing roles. and and and Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "of course was the high priest at the"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "meeting even though Mark Carney was"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "hosting it. You knew right away who was"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "in charge because Mark Carney"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "immediately just embraced Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "and in in a sickopantic fashion that was"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "almost nauseous. It was worse than his"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "performance in Washington. Almost"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "getting on his knees and saying you are"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "the most powerful transcendent leader in"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "the world today and we can all learn so"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "much from you. And at the same time, of"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "course, I keep asking, why did Donald"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "Trump want Mark Carney to win this"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "election? Well, apparently Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "wants a war as well in the Middle East."}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "And Mark Carney's all for that war. Mark"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "Carney's all for continuing the war in"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "Ukraine. $2 billion in outright"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "assistance, $2.3 billion in loan"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "guarantees. This is kind of like loaning"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "to the to the card shark who you're"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "probably not going to see next week"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "because he's going to absone with the"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "funds. It's incredible how not how"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "absolutely stupid Mark Carney thinks"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "Canadians are that he can continue to"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "funnel billions of dollars into a in a"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "war that's that's lost completely lost"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "for Ukraine. It's just it's just a"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "question of how badly they lose this. If"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "there's a country remaining at the end"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "of this conflict and how far Zillinsky"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "is going to get out of Ukraine. Is he"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "going to come to the United States for a"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "haven or is he going to go to some"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "European country? But he's going to flee"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "the country. But in addition to the $4.3"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "billion Clayton and and Natalie,"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "Mark Carney has just promised 225"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "billion 225 billion to rearm."}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "So he he likes to talk about rebuilding"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "the Canadian Armed Forces, which have"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "become a international joke under Justin"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "Trudeau. But he wants to rearm Europe."}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Why? Every time we rearm Europe, they"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "get into a world war. This is what"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "happened in 1914 and what happened in"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "1939. And if we keep rearming Europe,"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "they're going to take us into the third"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "world war. And I I hate to say it, but I"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "think we are potentially already in it"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "as to what's happening in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "East. And I have lost so much respect"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "for Donald Trump over the last 48 hours."}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "This was a guy who is going to be the"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "peace president, but he is as much a"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "globalist as anybody right now. And even"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "though he's he's pretending, he's still"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "his own man. And he has no time for"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "Emanuel Macron. And he really doesn't"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "have a lot of time for these these other"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "European folks. It's all American. I'm"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "going back to Washington to make some"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "tough decisions. It's this is all a"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "charade. This is all a complete facade"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "and Donald Trump has become part of this"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "act and he's become part of the theater"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "in a way that I never expected him to"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "be. This is I have always supported"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "Donald Trump. I supported his his"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "reelection in in the last federal"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "presidential campaign. I don't know how"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "many columns I've written saying great"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "job you're doing. I can't say that today"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "and I I don't know when I can say that"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "again because he has, as far as I'm"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "concerned, betrayed the MAGA base and he"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "has betrayed the people who wanted him"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "elected most to bring some kind of peace"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "and order to the chaos in this world."}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "And I don't know where he's coming from"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "anymore. I don't know if he's on drugs."}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "I don't know if he's being hijacked by"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "forces beyond his control. But it's"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "truly frightening to me. Now, when did"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "Canada recover its economy and get so"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "rich and start doing so well that it can"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "arm Europe and Ukraine? When did that"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "happen? Because I've been watching for"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "it and last I check your economic"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "markers are in the toilet. So, that must"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "be nice to all of a sudden come into"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "some cash. You have a rich rich uncle or"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "something. Well, well, Natalie, this is"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "all red ink. There's nothing real about"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "this. This is this is Mark Carney at his"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "usual behavior. This is how this is how"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "he behaved as governor of the bank of"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "England was to well the answer is just"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "keep printing the money and keep"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "spending it and hope nobody asks is this"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "real? Is this money actually coming from"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "some source? He hasn't even got a budget"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "prepared since he's been and he has no"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "intention of doing so till probably next"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "spring. So what he's doing right now is"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "he's borrowing money. He's printing"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "money. He's putting money into the"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "system the same way Joe Biden did with"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "the infrastructure act and these other"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "outrageous bills that poured tens of"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "trillions of dollars into the US"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "economy. This is what Mark Carney is"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "doing. He is basically saying, I am"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "going to spend the money even though I'm"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "not authorized to do so. Even though I"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "have no federal budget that explains"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "where this money is coming from or where"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "this money is going, it's completely"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "outrageous. But once again, I've said"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "from the beginning, Mark Carney intends"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "to govern by decree. He intends to"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "govern from the back room. So So these"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "clowns in the House of Commons, they"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "just came back for a couple of weeks"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "after being away for what, five, six"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "months. They're all going home again on"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "Friday afternoon. And my god, they can't"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "get out of here fast enough. So, and 3"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "months now they're going to be away for"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "3 months. Mark Carney will continue to"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "spend money without House of Commons"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "authorization, without the authorization"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "of Parliament. He will continue to put"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "Canada farther and farther in debt with"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "a deficit this year that's going to be"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "probably a trillion dollars easily. It's"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "already at that. And this is what we got"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "in this country. And and you, Natalie,"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "you're quite right. Where does he find"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "where is he going to find 225 billion to"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "give to Europe? Well, I saw this meme"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "yesterday about how Canadians like they"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "just don't care. They they love all of"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "this liberal rhetoric so much so to"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "their own detriment. And it was a silly"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "meme about um how there are 40 million"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "African-Americans and 40 million"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "Canadians. So for reparation, we should"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "give each africanamean a Canadian as a"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "slave. and Canadians would vote for it"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "because they are so co-opted by"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "self-hating liberal policies. It very"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "much feels like that. I'm not doing the"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "joke justice, but you know what I mean."}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "I I know I know exactly what you mean."}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "This is this has become a a nation of of"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "massochists who just love to be punished"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "by big government. They love big taxes"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "and and they are allowing this this"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "theater this as I I I I love how uh"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "I heard it the other day shambolic"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "exercise in democracy. That is exactly"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "uh what's what's going on here because"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "none of these people are taking any of"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "this very seriously. Even though there"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "we we are on the verge of a potential"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "nuclear war if this escalates and"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "continues to escalate, we've got"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "everybody's everybody saying, \"Hey, you"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "know, let's talk about Ukraine again.\""}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "And let's only and let's rearm Europe so"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "Europe can be better prepared to attack"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "Russia in the next 5 years. It's"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "absolute insanity. I I don't know who's"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "taking this very seriously anymore, but"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "I can tell you that the participants at"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "the G7 weren't taking this very"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "seriously. They know they're all"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "roleplaying. The one thing Trump said at"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "this at G7 and I said, \"Yes, exactly."}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "Thanks for saying it. Bring Russia into"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "this into this uh this this maze because"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "it's ridiculous to continue to treat"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "them like a pariah state.\" And that's"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "that's probably the best thing Trump"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "said. I hope he was serious about it."}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "But once again, we just learned"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "yesterday that Donald Trump says they're"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "walking away from improving relations"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "with Russia. And this is only a week"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "after he said, \"I had the most wonderful"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "conversation with President Putin on my"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "birthday.\" And he wished me the best and"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "happy birthday wishes. So Donald Trump"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "is almost schizophrenic at this at this"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "point. He's two different people. He's"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "the president that wants to have better"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "relations with Russia. He's the"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "president that just says we're we're"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "walking away from that process. He's the"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "president that got elected on a peace"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "program and now he's the president that"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "is having nothing more to do with"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "finding a peaceful solution to Ukraine"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "and I think wants to attack Iran within"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "the next 24 or 48 hours because his"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "friends want him to and that's all there"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "is to it. I think it's going to destroy"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "his presidency, but he doesn't seem to"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "care because well, I guess he's not"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "going to run again in three years. But I"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "think he figures he can ride this out. A"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "lot of people agree with you in our chat"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "room saying, you know, I voted for Trump"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "and uh but I don't know what he's doing."}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Like one day he says one thing, the next"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "day he's doing something else. Um"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "although we just had Gilbert Dr. on. He"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "said in one of his newsletters this week"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "that you can't sort of blame yourself if"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "you supported President Trump because if"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "Kla Harris had been elected president,"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "we would already be in a full-blown war"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "with Russia. I don't see it any"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "differently. Do you? Yeah, that's a"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "great bull. Absolutely not. No, but I"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "mean we we voted for Donald Trump for"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "rational reasons and any everybody who"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "did that did that on the basis that"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "Donald Trump would follow through on"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "that promise. He's apparently not doing"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "that. But that's that's not my that's"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "not my fault. That's not your fault."}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "That's Donald Trump's fault. But I think"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "it's it's I think it's a tragedy because"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "I think we had an opportunity here to"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "have a president who truly wanted to"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "work for the peace process. What he"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "should have done and saying, \"I'm going"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "back to Washington and we're going to"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "have a peace conference instead of a G7"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "conference. We're going to have a peace"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "conference and we're going to try to"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "solve the war in the Middle East and the"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "war in Ukraine.\" That's what he should"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "have done instead of saying, \"No, I've"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "got plans and you're not you're not"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "going to like them.\" And start issuing"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "these threatening posts on on true"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "social against Iran. And that I think"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "was a huge mistake because he could have"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "once again he could have filled this"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "void because there's nobody else in the"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "G7 who's really actively working for the"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "peace process at all. And it's very,"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "very tragic."}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "David Kraden, always great to see you,"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "my friend, from Ottawa, Canada. Keeping"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "it real up there and watching what"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "happens with these globalists. All the"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "globalists were in your backyard. I had"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "to take a to take five five showers"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "after that. The G7 in your backyard,"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "David, great to see you. Nice to nice as"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "always. Nice to be here. Thank you so"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "much."}]

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And to"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "her, I'm going to way oversimplify this,"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "but like the variable that she's"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "discovering with like the effect on"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "gravity on the universe, she's like, \"Oh"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "my god, it's been there the whole time."}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "It's right there. Like we we can see"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "it.\" But the response to her bringing up"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "this theory over the years is like,"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "\"You're [\u00a0__\u00a0] nuts. We know what"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "gravity is. Don't question it.\" And to"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "me, I'm like, \"But that's that's"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "anti-science.\" And it also, by the way,"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "you know, we we you're saying it with"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "science and cults. It's a concept of"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "like science and religion because cult"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "is religion in a lot of ways. You are"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "religiously a zealot to this idea. so"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "much to the sense to to the extent that"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "you will you will practice the craziest"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "tricks of cognitive dissonance as you're"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "pointing out to stick to this no matter"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "how that is shaped up and how ridiculous"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "it might be. And when you look"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "throughout history at like what those"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "terms are actually supposed to be,"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "science and religion,"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "they're both trying to accomplish the"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "same thing. Science is trying to explain"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "the scientific reasoning behind why it's"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "all here and what the meaning of"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "everything is. And religion is trying to"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "explain the spiritual meaning behind why"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "we're all here and what it is. So it's a"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "different means trying to get to the"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "same ends. And yet as humans we've"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "created this trick on ourselves. It's"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "really tragic in my book throughout a"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "lot of history. And I'm sure you've"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "looked at this. I think you even teach a"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "class on science and religion. But it's"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "like we've created this trick in our"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "minds where science and religion are"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "opposed to each other rather than"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "working together. And that's very"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "fascinating to me. Yeah. through"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "throughout the history of science, it's"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "quite the opposite because most of these"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "scientists obviously are religious,"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "especially in the scientific revolution,"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "they they're mostly Christian. Um there"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "there is, you know, a lot of Islamic"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "science that's going on uh in the before"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "the 1200s especially. But in the"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "scientific revolution, it's in these"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "European countries and all these"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "scientists are religious. And there's a"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "there's a famous quote by Galileo. He"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "actually there's people who said it"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "before him, but he's famous it's"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "attributed to him mostly where he says"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "something like uh the Bible is how to go"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "teaches you how to go to heaven, not how"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "the heavens go. You know, wow. Um but"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "there's this concept that many of these"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "scientists have that's uh the idea that"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "God has written two books. They believe"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "that God has written two books, the book"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "of scripture and the book of nature and"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "they both should be read. So you know if"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "you want to understand the book of"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "scripture someone like Kepler it's kind"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "of a little condescending. He thinks"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "that well God only grants the eyesight"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "to be able to see the book of nature to"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "a certain select few like him. Of course"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "you know the mathematicians who are able"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "to understand the inner perfections of"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "the geometry that God used to create the"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "world. And then we have the book of"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "scripture for the normal people who"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "aren't able to understand that. But the"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "concept is that God has written two"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "books. The book of scripture the book of"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "nature or the word and the world. And"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "these two books cannot contradict one"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "another because they're by God and God"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "doesn't make errors. And so if you think"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "there's an apparent discrepancy between"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "them, there's something that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "seem commensurate. There's some error."}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "There's some way way that they don't"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "line up. It must be that you've"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "interpreted one of them wrong. So for"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "many of these scientists, it's not that"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "we can interpret the world wrong. I"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "mean, the world is the way it is. It"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "looks the way it is. We must be"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "interpreting scripture wrong. So this"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "plays a big part with Galileo. Galileo"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "gets in trouble with the Catholic"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "Church. And the main reason he gets in"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "trouble, it's not because he's saying"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "that the earth moves. That's by proxy."}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "He gets in trouble because of that. What"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "the church is really upset about is he's"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "challenging challenging their authority."}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "By saying that the earth move, he is"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "interpreting scripture. When the book of"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "Joshua says that God commanded the sun"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "to stand still, the church has"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "interpreted that literally. Okay, the"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "sun must be moving and it stood still."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "So the earth must be stationary, the sun"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "must be moving and it stopped in the"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "sky. But Galileo is saying, \"No, the"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "earth is moving. The sun is stationary.\""}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Okay, but you just have to reinterpret"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "the book of Joshua. But no, no, no,"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "Galileo, you don't get to interpret. You"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "know, the council of Trent determined"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "who is the official interpreters? It's"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "the church and the church fathers."}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "You're you're neither of those. Galileo,"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "who are you? So you you're usurping the"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "authority of the church by daining to to"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "interpret a passage. So that's the real"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "kind of beef that Galileo and the church"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "have. Who are you to interpret"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "scripture? You're just a a scientist."}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "You're just a scientist. You're just a"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "guy looking at all of it and trying to"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "find evidence. It's crazy. That that"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "gets even deeper than that. You with any"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "of these topics, you can get really into"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "the weeds. But the Galileo trial is an"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "especially interesting one because"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "Galileo was warned about this. He's"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "warned you need to not uh hold or defend"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "these views. You know, you you can't"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "hold or defend the idea that the earth"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "goes around the sun. Um obviously this"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "contra contradicts scripture. So the guy"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "who tells him this, Galileo receives a a"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "verbal kind of order from this guy named"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Cardinal Bellerine who tells Galileo,"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "\"You're not allowed to hold or defend"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "these.\" In fact, he has a a written"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "letter Galileo gets from Bellerine"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "saying, \"Don't hold or defend these"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "views.\" Um, and that's going to play a"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "role in a second. Then the the current"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "pope dies and after another pope or so,"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "one of Galileo's friends becomes Pope"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "Mafo Barbarini who he becomes Pope Urban"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "the VI and he kind of tells Galileo, you"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "know, if I had have been pope, we"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "wouldn't have really come down maybe as"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "hard on that stuff. So Galileo thinks"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "this is great. Like he's kind of giving"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "me the green light and he's my friend."}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "Like who's going to come after me? I've"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "got the pope on my side. 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He goes there and"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "someone goes into the archives in the"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "Vatican and they pull out this document"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "that says we told you you were not"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "allowed to hold teacher defend this view"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "the capernac and you just published this"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "book and and that's exactly what you"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "seem to be doing you seem to be teaching"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "capernacism that's what this book is"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "about isn't it and Galileo pulls out his"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "letter from Afo Barbarini or from uh"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "from Cardinal Bellerin and he says you"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "didn't tell me I couldn't hold teach or"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "defend you told me I couldn't hold or"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "defend you never said anything about"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "teaching so I'm just teaching it in this"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "book I'm not defending you get I'm not"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "saying it's better than the other one."}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "And so there's this kind of back and"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "forth argument about who is right or"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "not. Eventually Galileo recounts. He"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "says I was wrong. The tomic system is"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "right. And you know he he is sentenced"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "to house arrest basically for the rest"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "of his life. Um but yeah so by proxy the"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "disagreement with Galileo and the church"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "is about whether the earth moves but"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "it's really about authority and who has"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "the right to interpret control. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "It's it's always about control and"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "power. That's the cynical way to look at"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "how our world runs and the truth we've"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "been told. And you know, it can get"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "dangerous because then you question"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "everything when you start to see what"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "human beings do when they get their"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "hands on a place of, you know, being"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "hired than other people. And that's not"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "really fair because there's plenty of"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "things that get found. It's like, yeah,"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "that is what it is. But then there's"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "other stuff like, you know, maybe some"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "of the MK Ultra things that aren't"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "exactly what they are. But by the way,"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "I'm seeing on the back here some of the"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "people you had vouched for your last"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "book. This is insane, man. You got HW"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "Brands. He's like, you know, he he's a"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "dream guest. Tell him. We'd love to get"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "him here. One of the greatest historians"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "ever occasionally. I see him on YouTube."}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "People upload and stuff. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Yeah. Have you read some of his stuff?"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "Yes. Yes. I the one his one book on the"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "Revolutionary War, our first Civil War."}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "Yeah. Incredible. I mean, and and Oh,"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "he's another one like his bibliography"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "is insane. It's just like the guy. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "I don't know. He He pumps out a book a"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "year, which I don't know how that's"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "possible. But it's like every different"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "like"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "era, you know what I mean? And it's like"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "it's dense, too. Like when you read"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "these books, they're really dense. He"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "doesn't he doesn't like I had Martin"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "Dugard in here recently, who's amazing."}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "He writes his like a thriller, right? He"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "tells a story. That's like his skill. HW"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Brands paints a beautiful picture and"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "it's it's entertaining to read, but it's"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "not written like a thriller. It's"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "written with really his, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "examining historical fact and"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "everything. So, you're going to get the"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "full picture, whatever that is, but he's"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "done so many and the research is nuts."}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "So, I took a writing course with him"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "when I was in grad school. He offered a"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "course on writing that was a really good"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "course. I felt like I learned a lot."}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "That's the goat. And you know, the at"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "the beginning of each course, there"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "weren't that many students in there"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "because it's a grad course. There might"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "have been six or seven of us. So, at the"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "beginning, one person would read like a"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "section of what they were writing and"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "then we'd talk about and kind of"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "critique it for a while and then we'd"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "talk about the reading for that week,"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "whatever. But one week he instead of the"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "students reading their own work, he"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "decided, okay, I'm going to read I'm"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "going to read for y'all this time and we"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "can critique my own stuff. So, he read I"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "think it was the the preface or"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "something to the book that he was"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "working on, it was the one about Abraham"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "Lincoln and John Brown, the the Zealot"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "versus the Emancipator. He read out loud"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "to us the preface of that and the way he"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "spoke. I thought, \"Oh my gosh, like this"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "is in a different level than what we've"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "been hearing.\" Yeah. He's his narration"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "is really good, too. And that is part of"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "what makes him such a good speaker. He's"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "very dynamic. And he he knows so much"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "about the topic that he's talking about"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "that he can he can always, you know,"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "find a way to meander his way to the"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "point. And at first, you might think,"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "oh, he's he's going into this kind of"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "backstory. You were asked this simple"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "question, but then he, you know, he"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "brings it around. I remember the weave."}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "The weave. Yeah. the weave. Of course, I"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "remember he was giving a talk at Book"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "people, this bookstore in Austin. It was"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "on one of his books. It was on a history"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "of the West, I think it was. And so I"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "went to it. I think I read that one"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "actually. Yeah. Dreams of Elorado is"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "what that book was called. I think I I'm"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "pretty sure I read that. But someone"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "asked him about the transcontinental"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "railroad, I think it was. And then he"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "went back to like the he went back like"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "a hundred years before. And then he"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "starts meandering his way. And by the"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "time he got to it, I kind of forgot that"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "he had asked about the transcontinental"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "railroad. And then he said, \"And that's"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "why Bubba,\" you know, when he connected."}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "Oh my gosh, just the weaving action."}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "Yeah. So that way, yeah, he's really"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "good at that. Yeah, that's amaz You took"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "a course with that guy. That's cool."}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "You're going to tell your grandkids"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "about that. Yeah, it was good. He's"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "good. Especially good speaker. You know,"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "everyone's painting. I I don't think he"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "wants his students to take notes in"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "class. I've been in there before where"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "he says, \"Don't take notes. I want you"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "to listen to this.\" And so he talks and,"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "you know, facilitates the discussion."}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "But it was it it was good. Yeah, because"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "I've looked at that in the past. He goes"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "to a lot of events. He's done some"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "podcasts like on Zoom and stuff. He"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "hasn't really done any major podcasts"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "though, like in person. I'm like, that's"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "I mean, now we we actually got to get on"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "this with you right after because now"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "people are going to hear this. They're"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "all going to try to get him in right"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "away. But I would love to get that guy"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "in if if you know him like that. He's"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "he's awesome. But also, I mean, you got"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "Tim Weiner who wrote Legacy of Ashes,"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "which is one of the alltime books on"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "CIA. Yeah, he's got a new book coming"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "out on the CIA in the 20th century. So,"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "it's like a sequel to Legacy of Ashes. I"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "think it comes out like next month or"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "something. Very cool. All right, I'm"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "going have to check that out. But dude,"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "this this has been awesome. It's I I I"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "got to read this book. We've all been"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "saying this behind the scenes. We We got"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "to read this. This is out. 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[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "And my dissertation was on scientists in"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "the intelligence community, but now I"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "teach courses on the history of science."}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "I have, you know, courses really from"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "the ancient Greeks to the present. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "so you're going all the way back. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "Yeah. Whoa. And you were telling me like"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "you did a lot of work on Isaac Newton."}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "Yeah. Is that is that something you"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "teach classes on? Yeah, of course."}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "Specifically on Newton. Yeah, it's fun."}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "Uh he was an interesting character."}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "Talked about some weird people. He had a"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "lot of odd ideas. You want to elaborate"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "on that? Yeah. Alchemy and theology. He"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "was an anti-trinitarian. and he didn't"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "believe in the trinity. You know, he was"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "a very devout Christian. He wrote"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "basically more about religion than he"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "did about science. Uh a lot of it was in"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "his personal notes. He never published."}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "But after his death, you know, it was"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "found out that he was doing this stuff"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "in private. So, he didn't believe in the"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "trinity. He thought there were a lot of"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "corruptions introduced into the Bible"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "over time. So, uh one of these is called"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "the johning comma in a letter of John's."}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "uh there's this section that talks about"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "I I don't know the exact warning but you"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "know it lists kind of three things and"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "it says you know the father the son holy"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "spirit something like that but he"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "thought that was an introduction"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "something that had been introduced by"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "scribes later on and to support this he"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "was actually a really good historian"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "like his spade work that he does is"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "incredible he looked at the earliest"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "commentators on that passage to see when"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "they quoted it from the scriptures that"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "they were using you know from the copies"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "that they had would they include certain"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "passages or not so it turns out that the"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "earliest commentators that he looked set"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "doesn't include one of these quotes"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "about the trinity and the later ones"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "start using it. 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You know he"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "goes to he he was a very obsessive"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "personality that shows obviously in his"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "science but also in everything else he's"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "doing whether it's alchemy or theology."}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "But yeah, very what was his work in"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "alchemy? Like what was he doing there?"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "Yeah, so the the goal of alchemy as it's"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "generally seen is to develop like the"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "philosopher stone. Can you or can you"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "turn something into can you turn one"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "element into another? Not that they"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "actually knew about specific elements,"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "but um can you turn something into gold?"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "Like lead into gold or whatever. So"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "that's the pursuit of the alchemists."}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "It's kind of sad in Isaac Newton's case"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "because a it seemed to really affect his"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "his brain in later years. So he writes a"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "letter to John Lockach. This is in his"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "later years. And in that letter he"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "basically says, \"Why were you trying to"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "get these women to seduce me and all"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "this weird stuff and it's like he wasn't"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "doing any of that stuff.\" And later"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "Newton writes him back saying, \"I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "sorry for that. I don't know what came"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "over me.\" And his hair has been tested,"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "you know, locks of his hair after he"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "died. they had high levels of uh heavy"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "metals and so seems like like that"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "really affected his mind in later years."}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "Yeah, it's I I always wonder what it's"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "like what it must be like to be a total"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "genius thinking about like the meaning"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "of it all and be and having the"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "scientific and mathematical means to"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "constantly assess that at the highest"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "level and and just going about your day"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "and looking around and not driving"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "yourself nuts, you know? It's"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "like where's Well, he might have been"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "nuts, right? That's what I'm saying."}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "Like a lot of these people, they go"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "nuts. Yeah, he I don't think he was"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "actually like insane or something like"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "that, but he was he was certainly odd."}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "Like I said, uh very hyperfocused on"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "things. Very much a recluse. It he"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "didn't really"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "it it doesn't seem like he did much of"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "his work because he wanted the"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "recognition for it. Even though kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "secretly I think he didn't want"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "recognition for what he's doing. But a"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "lot of the stuff he he works something"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "out and then he puts it in his drawer"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "and he doesn't publish it for a while"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "and he has to be prompted to even"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "publish something. So for example the"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "most famous example of this is Isaac"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Newton is able to derive that if you"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "have an inverse square law so if the"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "strength of a force falls off according"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "to the square of the distance then you"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "can derive conic sections like you can"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "derive ellipses you know which that's"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "the shape that this planet's moving an"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "ellipse this is a huge deal like he can"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "now explain why the planets move in"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "ellipses because 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and he says if you were to"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "assume an inverse square law you know"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "the strength of the force falls off"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "proportional to the square of the"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "distance then what shape could you"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "derive from that if you had a body"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "moving according to that and Isaac"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Newton says oh an ellipse obviously and"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "hi whoa that's exactly what we've been"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "trying to do and try trying to do the"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "math to figure that out do you have your"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "you know proof of 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Um it was Kepler who"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "was the revolutionary in saying we just"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "can't account for perfect circles with"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "our observations and so he realizes that"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "the shape that the planets actually seem"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "to be moving in is ellipses. So"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "identifies that as that's like the real"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "break from the past. Whoa. Thank you"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "guys for checking out this clip. If you"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "haven't already subscribed, please"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "subscribe and hit the like button on"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "this video. 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But there's"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "this constant dynamic of people who have"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "access to the worst information and the"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "worst threats in the world and whatever"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "and they'll rationalize, you know, let's"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "put a blanket term on it, having a few"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "casualties of something like that for"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "the greater good, you know, and this"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "gets really dark when you start thinking"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "about this, but do you ever find"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "yourself, whether it's looking at cases"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "like this or other cases you've examined"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "in the past or just in general, thinking"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "about"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "if there is"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "I I don't want to say like"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "a good explanation, but I if there is a"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "moral way that that people in power"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "could determine that, you know, if we"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "got to crack a few eggs to make an"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "omelet here, it's going to be worth it"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "for the whole in the future, meaning you"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "know, people along the way are going to"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "be lost to the cause. Do do you think"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "there's ever scenarios where that is"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "where that doesn't end just completely"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "tragically? Um, it's it's hard to say. I"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "I find it hard to believe partly because"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "you can only determine whether it was"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "actually worth it after the fact, right?"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "You know, so it's like you have to go in"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "blind to some degree if you're going to"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "do that. And"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "another thing to take into consideration"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "when you're doing the moral calculus of"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "is this justified or not. It's not just"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "is this justified because we're going to"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "end up, you know, you know, let's say we"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "have to kill two people and we save 10"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "people. Okay. Okay. on on that very"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "narrow moral calculus that might seem"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "justified because obviously, you know,"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "maybe all 10 people are going to die if"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "we don't do something or whatever, but"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "at the same time, you have to think"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "you're committing an act and it's not"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "that that act is in isolation. Now,"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "there's potential backlash from the fact"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "that you did that. So, you've completely"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "undermined your reputation. 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So, it's like that might"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "actually put it in the negative in a"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "moral situation because it might prevent"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "you from doing something in the future"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "that isn't necessarily immoral, but that"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "people don't trust you because of this"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "is one of the huge things about MK Ultra"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "and a lot of other things the CIA has"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "been involved in. Its reputation is"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "completely shot. Who who trusts it? You"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "know, who's going to trust it? And"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "that's not to say it doesn't do good"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "things, but like who's going to trust it"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "after knowing that this was possible in"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "the past? That question is always going"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "to be open now that if you did that, you"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "could be doing something. Now as a"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "historian I like to think well I don't"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "want to speculate that you could be"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "doing something of course you could be"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "doing something I want to know what you"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "are doing but because something in the"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "past some abuse has taken place it"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "always opens the door for anyone to"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "distrust you now and that morally that"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "that might be a worse thing than having"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "to do something bad to get some even"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "greater good because now you've produced"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "an even greater harm if now you can't"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "protect someone for some reason you know"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "so the the reputational blow uh has to"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "be factored into that calculus in some"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "It's a great answer. And also, you know,"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "there's the human fallacy of someone"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "else will deal with it in the future."}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "You know what I mean? I'm here right"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "now. This situation at hand, we'll"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "figure this out. Yeah, there'll be"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "blowback. I'm sure we'll figure that"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "out. And you keep doing that again and"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "again and again eventually. You don't"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "have any reputation at all other than a"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "bad one. And I think that's kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "where the CIA is at this point in a lot"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "of the public domain because we're"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "always going to pay attention to the bad"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] that happens, right? It's just how"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "it is. you know, when the CIA stops a"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "terror attack and, you know, from Taylor"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Swift concert having something horrible"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "happen to it. It's not like we're like,"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "\"Yay, CIA.\" But like, that's pretty"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "that's pretty cool that they stop"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "potentially tens of thousands of people."}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "I think John F. Kennedy said he has a"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "quote something like talking to the"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "intelligence community, your victories"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "are unsung, your uh mistakes are"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "heralded, you know, something are"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "published, something like that. So, in a"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "certain way, that is right. There could"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "be great things we don't know of, you"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "know. Yeah, that's great. There also"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "could be some bad stuff we don't know"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "about. That's exactly right. Now, do we"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "have any evidence"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "of programs, not necessarily the same"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "thing, but I don't know, children"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "programs of something like this that"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "could have existed afterwards or even"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "exist today. Um,"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "I don't know about MK Ultra in"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "particular. There are, let me think,"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "there I don't know about MK Ultra in"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "particular. There were some radiation"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "experiments that dealt with children. I"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "forget where it was, but I don't know if"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "it was connected to MK Ultra or if it"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "was something independent. So, there are"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "some kind of experiments. I think it was"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "like the the cereal or something was"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "laced with some kind of low form of"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "lowly irradiated something like that."}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "And I think children were involved in"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "that some way. Um I I don't know much"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "about that, you know, obviously because"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "I'm stumbling because I'm not too sure"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "about what exactly went on as far as MK"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "Ultra. Um, I don't think so. I can't"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "recall off the top of my head. I, you"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "know, I can't recall. Was there anything"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "in your research that was more shocking"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "than everything else you found that"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "really stood off besides, you know,"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "finding the depositions and realizing"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "that existed? Yeah, that that you know,"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "I mentioned the remote control animals."}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "That was pretty shocking to me."}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "That was one of, you know, if going back"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "to my first book, The Dirty Tricks"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "Department, one of the the craziest"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "experiments I've ever heard of. I"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "mentioned the bat bombs, but there was"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "another involving foxes and it was"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "called Operation Fantasia. Have you"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "heard of this before? Fantasia. So,"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "okay, the the idea is that we're"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "fighting the Japanese and we need a way"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "to defeat the Japanese. In fact, what's"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "a better way than to militarily defeat"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "the Japanese? What if we can get the"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "Japanese to lay down their own arms and"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "just give up? Maybe we can do that. How"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "are we going to do that? Yeah, with"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "foxes somehow. So the idea is that in"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "the Shinto religion, there are these"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "what are called kitsuni, like these"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "spirit beings that can be omens, either"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "good omens or bad omens or something."}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "And foxes are one of the main ones."}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "They're like these glowing foxes that"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "apparently represent portance of doom in"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "some cases. Portans of doom. Yeah. Like"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "something bad is going to happen in the"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "future. Wine. I like that. Yeah. So"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "there was a guy named Ed Salinger in the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "OSS who was working with, you know, Stan"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Stanley Levelville and these other guys"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "I talk about in the book and they want"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "to do some kind of psychological"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "operation where what if we get these"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "foxes and we coat them in this"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "radioactive paint that glows in the dark"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "and we release them in Japan. 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I think it was"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "the word they used for. Another"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "experiment with the foxes was to um you"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "know coat them with this paint and drop"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "them into the middle of the Chesapeake"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "Bay to see if they could swim to shore"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "because how are we going to get these"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "foxes to Japan? We're going to have to"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "throw them overboard. You know, they're"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "going to have to swim to shore and"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "they'll scare people. So, we got to see"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "if foxes can squint. You know, can foxes"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "even swim? We don't know. We have to,"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "you know, figure it out. So, they row"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "them out to the middle of the Chesapeake"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "Bay. They throw these foxes overboard."}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "They swim to shore. But the paint had"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "washed off in the water. So, they"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "determined that that's probably not"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "going to work. Oh my god. I never heard"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "of that before. Operation Fantasia."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "Fantasia. Yeah. And it gets even crazier"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "than that to be honest. Fantasia. They"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "realize that these foxes aren't going to"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "work. These live foxes. But what if we"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "can create fake foxes? Foxes. What if we"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "create fox balloons that look like foxes"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "and they float in the sky? We paint them"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "with this paint. They're glowing. And"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "then from those we can put a a human"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "skull where the head goes of the fox and"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "have the fox body. and we could put a"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "speaker inside the mouth of the school"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "and have it blasting like propaganda and"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "they're gonna think there are these kind"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "of floating foxes glowing in the dark"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "saying this portant of doom stuff is"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "happening. So that was another kind of"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "part of operation fantasia. Oh my god."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "Can't say they're not creative. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "you got to give them that. There's a lot"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "of creativity happening in these offices"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "where they're coming up with spy [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "It's it's amazing work though, man."}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "There's there's a lot of things you"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "brought up today that like you know we I"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "enjoy looking at this stuff but I never"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "heard of it. That's That's crazy. But"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "you also, we were talking before, you"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "teach a bunch of classes at UT Austin. I"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "do. And your It's very interesting like"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "your road to even get into researching"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "this because you were telling me your"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "background was like researching like the"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "history of science. That's it. Yeah. The"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "history of science. How did you get into"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "that? Yeah. Uh I've always loved the"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "history of science. I didn't even know"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "it was a field growing up. I always"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "liked I didn't either actually. I mean"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "this I never liked reading growing up. I"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "didn't I didn't like and now ironic I'm"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "writing books now but I hated reading"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "growing up it was so boring whatever but"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "I think it's because my teachers always"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "wanted us to read fiction books they"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "would assign you know fiction whatever"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "but I don't I don't didn't like fiction"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "as much I didn't realize it until later"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "but whenever I would be given like a"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "science book now that's something I"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "could read that was interesting so it's"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "it's not that I didn't like reading I"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "realized it's that I like reading"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "non-fiction I like reading books about"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "the history of science so I would always"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "read biographies of certain scientists"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "and then when I was in college I"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "realized that the history of science was"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "a field because there was a professor"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "Anthony Stranges at Texas&M where I did"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "my undergrad and he taught courses on"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "the history of science and a lot of the"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "textbooks for those courses I had"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "already read. It's like this is stuff I"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "read in my free time. This is great. So"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "I realized there's a professor who's"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "teaching this course and this is the"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "subject that I like. So I I could do"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "that. That's how I kind of decided that"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "oh I could be a professor who teaches"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "this stuff. He's doing it like I want"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "that job. So that's how I got into the"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "history of science. That's what I"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "specialized in in my PhD at UT. There's"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "a a I guess a subset of the history"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "department. You specialize in different"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "fields. My field was the history of"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "science, technology, and medicine. Thank"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "you guys for checking out this clip. If"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "you haven't already subscribed, please"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "subscribe and hit the like button on"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "this video. It is a huge, huge help. 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[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "What's Can we actually pull up Family"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "Jewels so I can get a timeline in my"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "head just exactly because there's a lot"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "going on in this handful of years there."}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "Yeah. The 70s especially for the the"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "1975 is called the year of intelligence."}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "So the end of 74 is the Rockefeller"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "Commission. 75 is the Church and Pike"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "committees. Right. So investigative"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "journalist Seymour Hirs. All right. This"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "is what I want. revealed some of the"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "contents of the family jewels in a front"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "page New York Times article in December"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "1974. This is why I wanted to check it"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "because Gotautleb destroys documents in"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "73. So long before Hirs presumably gets"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "a hold at this and what led him to do do"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "we know like what the thought process"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "was there? I think I do because these"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "depositions thankfully. Please tell us."}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "Yeah. So in 1973, Sydney Gotautle is"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "retiring from the CIA. So he's I mean"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "he's retiring. So he's leaving and so is"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "Richard Helms who is the director of the"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "CIA. Richard Nixon was kind of pushing"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "Richard Helms out and so Gotautle goes"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "to Richard Helms and asks him what are"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "we going to do with all this stuff?"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "Because Richard Helms had been a big"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "proponent of MK Ultra throughout its"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "career and they both agree that they're"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "going to destroy the files before they"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "retire because now that they're not"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "going to be there, they don't want"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "anyone to leak this to the press, you"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "know. So they basically have them"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "incinerated. They take them to a CIA"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "records center and the archavist at the"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "records center writes a note saying over"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "my stated objections Richard Helms, you"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "know, directed Sydney Gotautle to have"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "me destroy these files. So, you know, we"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "have the document of the archist saying,"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "\"I didn't want to do this, but I was"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "directed to do this.\" So, they destroy"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "the files in 1973. Then all this other"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "stuff happens. Rockefeller Church pike"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "committee and as part of that Sydney got"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "is um subpoenaed and he has to testify"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "in front of those and he he's in India"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "at the time he's working at like a leper"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "colony he comes back he testifies he"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "doesn't say that much but in these"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "depositions he says a lot more Joseph"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "Ral this attorney presses him and"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "Richard Helms who his deposition I also"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "found he presses them asking Helms was"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "in too yeah Helms and the CIA really"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "tried to prevent Helms's deposition from"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "happening and even when it did happen."}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "They tried to prevent uh Ralph from"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "keeping a copy. They said, \"Oh, he"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "accidentally released classified"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "information. We're going to have to take"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "your copy of that.\" And yeah, Ralph"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "said, \"There's no way.\" Cuz the thing"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "they said was classified was the"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "location of a CIA um some building or"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "something which had already been"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "published in the Washington Post. And"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "it's like that's not it's already public"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "information. I'll try that. Where what"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "and what year was this again? This is"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "like 79 is when it starts, but the"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "depositions mainly happen in 80 to 83."}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "Okay. So early 80s. But where and where"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "did they take place again? Uh mainly in"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "like Virginia and DC. Okay. Yeah. Where"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "most of these people are. But I was"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "saying, oh, in the depositions, Joseph"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "Ralph, this attorney who's a fiery"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "attorney, he gets into arguments with"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "them. He is he is so combative. He"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "starts like bad mouthing the other"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "attorneys in there. He's a great"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "character for the book. And at this"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "point, he's an older gentleman. He had"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "been involved in like the civil rights,"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "you know, movement. And he he had faced"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "a lot of things over his career. And so"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "he wanted this to kind of be the last"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "notch on his belt. He asks Sydney Gotly"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "and Richard Helms, \"Why did you destroy"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "these files? You know, obviously it"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "seems like you wanted to cover something"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "up.\" At first, Gotley gives this excuse"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "of an explanation. He says, \"Well, the"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "CIA was drowning in paper. We just had"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "so much of it that, you know, we were"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "trying to downsize a little bit, and so"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "we had to destroy these files just to"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "get rid of so much paper that we"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "couldn't hardly move.\" God. Yeah. So,"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "obviously, he's just saying this. So,"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "Ralph keeps pressing him. You got to be"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "kidding me. You know, so Richard Helm"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "says, \"Well, one reason we did it is"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "because we wanted to protect sources and"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "methods. That's our prerogative. You as"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "disclosed in the National Security Act,"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "we got to protect sources and methods."}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "These documents have the names of people"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "on there and what we're doing, you know,"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "so we have to protect sources and"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "methods.\" And Ral pushes him like, you"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "couldn't just keep them secret. Like how"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "does destroying them protect sources and"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "methods when keeping them secret"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "doesn't? You know, just don't give them"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "to the public. you know, you can protect"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "sources and methods without destroying"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "every file you have. So, that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "really go over too well with Ralph. And"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "then in a deposition with Sydney Godly,"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "he asks him, he really pushes him,"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "really, what's going on here? Like, why?"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "And Sydney Godly basically breaks down"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "during the deposition and he says, I was"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "embarrassed. I was embarrassed about"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "what we did. He came to have regrets"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "because he realized it didn't amount to"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "hardly anything. They didn't really"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "learn anything from MK Ultra. They spent"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "millions of dollars and harmed untold"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "numbers of people causing lasting abuse"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "throughout their lives in some cases"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "like Frank Olson causing them to die."}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "And what came of it? Basically nothing."}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "And so Sydney Gotley was embarrassed"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "about it and so he didn't want anyone to"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "know because he didn't want it to cause"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "backlash to the CIA but also to him. So"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "he destroyed him. And it could go deeper"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "than that but we don't know. That's why"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "it's it's another one of those it's like"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "man I wish I not even on camera. I wish"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "I could just sit with a guy like that"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "who's obviously dead now, long dead, but"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "like you just sit with them in a room"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "like this for a few hours and pick his"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "brain and see what they're about because"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "you know people you stay here long"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "enough with people and usually it's for"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "the better to be honest with you because"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "I'm I'm lucky to have mostly really"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "really great people come through here."}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "But you get to know who people are. You"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "you see what they're about. you see what"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "makes them tick and things like that and"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "and you I'd love to think as an American"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "if there were some serious mistakes made"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "and things that were done totally wrong"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "in a program like this that the people"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "who did it would would have recognized"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "that and would have voluntarily tried to"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "stop it and it wouldn't have just been"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "like a cover up campaign. But, you know,"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "that's probably wishful thinking with"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "some of these people and he is at the"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "top. So, he's certainly"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "it's certainly suspect when you look at"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "this like, okay, I understand you're"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "protecting yourself, but why are you"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "destroying all those documents? And"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "then, you know, it's very interesting to"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "hear you talk about the depositions and"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "how open he was and how much he wanted"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "to talk about it. That's almost"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "psychotic. I think he changed. I think"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "he really came to regret MK Ultra. He"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "regretted it. I think so. At the time he"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "was doing it, I think he thought this"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "was in service of national security. And"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "after it was over, I still think he"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "thought that was a legitimate cause. But"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "I think he came to realize that it"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "didn't do anything and you harmed all"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "these people. Toward the end of his"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "life, he was well known throughout his"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "community for volunteering at all kinds"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "of places. And a lot of the people who"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "knew him, they were interviewed"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "afterwards and they they said like, \"We"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "always thought he was trying to absolve"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "himself of past sins or something like"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "that.\" So I think he did have pings of"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "conscience. Like I said, he was in India"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "volunteering at a leper hospital for a"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "long time for a couple years before he"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "came back. And uh yeah, I think he he"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "really came to regret it. Well, that's"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "nice. you know, there's something good"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "there, I guess. But, you know, along the"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "way, and we keep on talking about it in"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "different examples, but there are"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "victims of things like this. There are"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "victims in things like Midnight Climax."}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "There are people there among the the"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "plaintiffs in in in a case like that in"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "in the early 80s, but I I forget you had"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "said you talked to you talked to some"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "victims, some alleged victims in your"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "interviews or I have the depositions of"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "several of the victims. Mo I think all"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "the victims are probably dead by this"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "point, right? because this this was a"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "while ago, but are there family members"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "that I don't know much about this. Are"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "there family members who are publicly"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "speaking out about what their dead"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "relatives told them, you know, happened"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "in in this? And those dead relatives are"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "actually people who are traceable to"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "real cases and it's not just, you know,"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "someone yelling on Twitter. Yeah, it's"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "it's hard. There is, like I mentioned, a"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "lawsuit that the children of people they"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "they claim to be the children of people"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "who are in this sub project by you and"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "Cameron in Montreal. Um, I haven't"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "really looked into that. So, I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "know. So, you know, I I don't know too"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "much about that, but I know those"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "children are trying to sue the Canadian"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "government, I think, because the"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "Canadian government was also giving"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "funds to you and Cameron, like grants"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "and things. Um, so I know that's going"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "on. But where when I talk about the"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "victims in this book, it mostly comes"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "from the depositions that happened"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "because not only, you know, were the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "perpetrators of MK Ultra deposed in"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "this, but the victims talk about"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "everything that they went through in"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "these depositions. One of the more"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "moving cases is of this woman named Mary"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "Morrow. She was uh one of the patients"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "of you and Cameron at the Allen Memorial"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "Institute in Montreal, a victim of"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "psychic driving and sleep deprivation"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "and especially electroshock therapy. The"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "ironic thing with her story and which"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "makes it such a good um story to"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "illustrate what's going on in in these"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "experiments is that she had been one of"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "the residents in training at the Allen"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "under you and Cameron doing these things"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "to other people. And she said, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "so her story is is really sad. She had"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "gone to medical school she wanted to be"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "a neurologist. She developed anorexia."}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "She wasn't able to pass her neurology"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "exams. And so, um, the person who got"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "her the position that she really wanted,"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "the head of the neurology department at"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "St. Mary's Hospital, he eventually had"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "to take all her patients because she"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "couldn't, you know, handle them because"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "she failed her exams. She didn't have"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "her license. She eventually tried to"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "kill herself and then she went to um a"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "hospital basically to try to get better"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "and while she was there you Cameron"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "comes and he says I'd like you to come"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "back to the Allen but not as a resident"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "but as a patient. So she had been on one"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "side of it and then she goes back as a"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "patient and so she talks about what it"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "was like being on the other side. She"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "doesn't remember that much because the"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "main thing that was done to her was the"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "electric shock therapy. And so her what"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "eventually happened to her was her"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "sister and her mother would talk to her"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "on the phone after these sessions and"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "she was obviously incoherent and not in"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "her right mind. And so her mother told"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "her sister, \"You go down there and like"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "figure out what's happening.\" So her"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "sister barges in and they try to prevent"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "her from seeing Mary Morrow. And she"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "says, \"I'll call the police. I don't"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "care. I'm seeing my sister.\" So she goes"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "to see her sister. and her sister"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "doesn't even recognize her when she"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "walks in the room. Or Mary Morrow"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "doesn't recognize her sister when her"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "sister walks in. She doesn't know how to"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "put on her clothes anymore. She can't"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "put on makeup or do her hair or"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "anything. She is, you know, just"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "completely gone. Over time, she"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "eventually recovers some, but she"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "eventually tries to commit suicide"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "again. She tries to sue Euan Cameron,"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "but she's prevented from doing so. um"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "mostly because he has you know"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "connections with all the people who are"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "in Montreal basically and you know he's"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "preventing them from giving her a job"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "and preventing them her from going"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "forward with this and you know it's just"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "a really sad story but it's it's a it's"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "a good light through which to view this"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "uh these experiments in particular since"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "she was on both sides of it. Yeah. Wow."}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "That's that's like a full circle one"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "right there. But thank you guys for"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "checking out this clip. If you haven't"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "already subscribed, please subscribe and"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "hit the like button on this video. It is"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "check out this clip's full podcast"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "episode, that link is in the description"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "below or right here. 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The National Archives, you"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "know, they have a lot of government"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "records. So I I've been there a lot for"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "either my dissertation or my first book"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "or this book. So I spent a lot of time"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "there. Uh, I've gotten records from uh"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "UCLA where Jolly West was from"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "Georgetown University has paper at"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "Williams Donovan's papers are there. Um,"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "the Army Heritage I forget what it's"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "called. The Army Medical Heritage"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "Associates"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "from there. Um, I don't know. There's"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "there's a lot of places. How long did it"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "take to put this together? This book. I"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "probably started working on these two"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "books because I I kind of started"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "working on them at the same time because"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "I initially thought it was going to be"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "one book. So I'd say I started in 2018."}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "Oh wow. So wow. And the first one came"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "out in 2023. This one's 2025. Wow. So"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "you know my I finished grad school in"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "2019. So I w I kind of finished my"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "dissertation for the most part and I"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "still had a year. I was still doing"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "research and kind of putting the final"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "touches on my dissertation, but I"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "thought I got some free time. I'm going"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "to go ahead and start writing this book."}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "So, I was kind of double dipping um my"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "department, the department of history at"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "UT. They would, you know, I I might get"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "a grant or something to go to visit an"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "archive and I would say, \"Yeah, you"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "know, I'm going to research for my"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "dissertation.\" But on the side, while"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "I'm there, you know, I'm I did research"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "for these books. So, that helped. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "It's cool how they translated right into"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "each other, too, like kind of seamlessly"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "as well, even from a timeline"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "perspective. M but did you you know"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "we've been talking about all these"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "different things they do the 149"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "subcategories of MK Ultra that you found"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "out and a lot of it has to do with"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "things that were here whether it be in"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "prisons or you know the the operation"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "midnight climax or even putting LSD in"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "the punch bowl at you know the CIA"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "party. Did did we do any of this"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "internationally though too? Yeah the"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "international part of MK Ultra was"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "called MK Delta. Oh that's a nice name."}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "I like that. Yeah. There there are a lot"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "of these MKMH. So in fact MK Ultra after"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "1963 1963 became MK search and it that"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "it was MK Ultra but continued for a few"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "years. So there are a lot of kind of"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "cryptonms that are used. We don't know"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "too much about the international uses of"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "these drugs. There are the church"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "committee talks about several"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "administrations that happened as part of"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "interrogations of prisoners. Um we don't"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "know too much about them as part of that"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "artichoke program that was a little bit"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "before MK Ultra. Which one was that"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "again? That's kind of the precursor to"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "MK Ultra. They're basically doing"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "interrogations with drugs. Um, standard."}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "There is some descriptions of the"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "interrogations that happen. There are"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "two spies that are caught and they're"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "given I think it's sodium amatl or"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "something like that. And it describes"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "kind of it actually says that they"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "revealed a lot of information that these"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "people probably shouldn't have. And they"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "start using some of these substances."}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "And one of the quotes from the officers"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "who's doing this is that this is like"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "the drugs that's going to open our"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "minds. this is going to allow us to do"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "everything we want to. So they see that,"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "you know, LSD and sodium amatl and all"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "this stuff. This is like the the"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "greatest thing in the world because it's"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "going to allow them to get the truth"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "from anyone they want to. So the"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "interrogations actually seem to be"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "pretty useful or pretty positive."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "They're able to get a lot of"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "information. Um, as far as the"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "international side though, those happen"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "internationally, which is why I"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "mentioned them. Sydney God, the main"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "thing internationally he does is"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "there is an attempt to"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "discredit the one of the people who's"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "running to become president of the"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "Philippines. And not too much is known"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "about this, but there are and you kind"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "of have to triangulate that it was"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "actually the Philippines that but I"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "think that's where it was that this was"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "happening. But there was an attempt to"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "put some LSD into the water of one of"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "these political uh people who was um"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "sympathetic to the Soviets, to the"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "communists in order to like I mentioned"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "with Castro, in order to make them seem"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "crazy right before a political rally so"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "that whenever they started talking they"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "would seem crazy. So um that's the one"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "kind of international use of this I can"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "think of except besides those"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "interrogations, several interrogations,"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "but there could have been other stuff."}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "We just don't have a record of it. Yes."}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "So Steven Kinszer wrote a biography of"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "Sydney Gotle called Poisoner and Chief."}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "Yes. And in there he talks about this"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "place called Camp King in Germany and"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "it's this camp where interrogations"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "occurred and he says that this was kind"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "of part of MK Ultra. They were using"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "drugs to basically torture these people."}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "They were doing all kinds of stuff these"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "you know I don't know prisoners or"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "whatever they were. I I think that kind"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "of thing happened. There were"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "interrogations that happened at Camp"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "King, but again, I don't I've never seen"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "any link to MK Ultra, you know. So, I"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "don't really talk about it that much in"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "this book because it's not that it"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "didn't happen, is that it doesn't really"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "have to me, it doesn't really have much"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "to do with MK Ultra. So, I'm telling the"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "story of MK Ultra here. I I don't really"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "see a connection. Um, so, you know, I"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "don't talk too much about that in this"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "book because of that, but he he thinks"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "that there is this international"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "connection with that these"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "interrogations that are happening at"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "these prisons like in Germany, Camp"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "King. Yeah. But whenever I hear"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "something like, \"Yeah, we ended that,\""}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "it's like, \"Yeah, maybe there was"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "something else spun off or whatever.\""}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "But we've been alluding to like kind of"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "how this blew up all day. You've"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "mentioned, you know, got destroyed files"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "in 1973. Later there were depositions"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "and obviously the the the church"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "commissions in the middle of that in"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "7576."}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "But what what was the initial was it the"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "family jewels document that blew it on"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "this? Yeah, that pretty much that's the"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "the main thing. The family jewels gets"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "leaked to Seymour Hirs. publishes part"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "of it in the New York Times, not even"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "about MK Ultra, but about how the CIA"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "had tried to infiltrate some uh groups"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "that were protesting the Vietnam War,"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "right? Um so that that became big. Can't"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "have that. Yeah. And so there were"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "several of these kinds of stories and"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "the family jewels had partially gotten"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "leaked and Gerald Ford and his"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "administration is very worried that the"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "rest of that is going to get leaked and"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "so they set up which includes like"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "assassination attempts on foreign"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "leaders. Sydney Gotautle is involved in"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "multiple. He try he sends anthrax to the"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "Congo to try to kill this guy named"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "Patrice Lumumba. We did a podcast on it."}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Oh, did you? Great. Great. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "Stuart Stuart Reed, that's his last"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "name, right? Yeah, you got it. That was"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "episode 165, I think. Nice. Good memory"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "with the numbers on there. Yeah. He he"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "uh he wrote a whole book called The"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "Lumba Plot, which is which is I use that"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "for this book. That was helpful. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "Part of Oh, that's cool. So, that was in"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "a bibliography. He like that's a case"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "that's just totally ignored in history."}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "was a proxy war between the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "of KGB and the intelligence of CIA. And"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "there's Gotautly right in the middle."}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "Yep. And one thing I don't know if he"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "includes this in this book because I"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "think it only comes out in the in the"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "depositions that I found. Uh in fact, in"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "his book, I think he says that the"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "substance that was used to try to kill"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "the Mumba was I I don't remember what it"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "was. Some some substance, but I think"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "that was wrong. I think it's actually"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "anthrax because in these depositions got"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "reveals for the first time how he tried"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "to do it with anthrax that he got from"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Fort Dedricch you know where that"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "special operations division was and yeah"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "so anthrax was the thing that was kind"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "of an exciting thing to find in the"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "depositions but I mentioned exciting"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "yeah yeah yeah for for me as a historian"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "maybe not for Lumumba"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "you know the idea was to put some of"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "this or at least some kind of substance"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "in his toothpaste that he would brush"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "his teeth with and it would kill him and"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "the joke about Lumumba was that he never"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "brushed his teeth because he feared an"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "assassin ation attempt. So, you know,"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "the joke was that he preferred bad"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "breath to no breath at all. Yeah, that's"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "a bar. I mentioned Leumba because we"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "were talking about how this eventually"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "came out with the Church Committee and"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "all that. So, there was this these"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "assassination attempts that the Ford"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "administration did not want to get out"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "to the public, the idea that the CIA"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "could possibly be involved in this kind"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "of thing. And so, Ford sets up a"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "commission, the Rockefeller Commission,"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the vice president Nelson Rockefeller."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "And the commission is supposed to"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "investigate abuses by the, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "intelligence community of the past."}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "Really, one of the main things they're"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "doing is we'll reveal some stuff that we"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "want you to know, but we want to make"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "sure that nobody else investigates like"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "this other stuff. Rockefeller would"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "never cover anything else. Okay, let's"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "just let's just put that out. So, we"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "want to we want to make it look like"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "we're really investigating and, you"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "know, getting everything out in the"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "open, but the purpose is to make sure"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "that Congress doesn't launch their own"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "investigation. Because if if you know"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "the executive branch if we launch an"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "investigation, we can say that yeah,"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "we're going to release this stuff and"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "though it might dissuade Congress from"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "launching a joint investigation or a"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "simultaneous investigation and they"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "could reveal stuff that the executive"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "doesn't want to get out there. It turns"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "out that the executive branch or the"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "Congress launches its own investigation."}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "Anyway, the Church Committee and the"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "Pike Committee in the House, church"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "committees in the Senate, Pike"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Committees in the House. And what was"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "the Pike? I don't know much about that."}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "Yeah, it was kind of analogous to the"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "Church Committee. It was more instead of"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "focusing on the specific abuses that"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "happened in the past, a lot of what it"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "did is focused on the culture of the CIA"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "that enabled these things and that uh"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "led to a lot of intelligence failures,"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "you know. So, um the CIA failed to"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "predict a lot of things. The TED"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "offensive and uh the first nuclear tests"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "of certain countries and everything"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "failed to predict it or had a little"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "hand in making sure it happened. Well,"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "Pike is saying, you know, the Pike"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "Committee says they failed to predict"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "this stuff. And what what what allowed"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "or what enabled the CIA to miss this"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "stuff? how did that happen? They offer a"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "lot of critiques of it, you know. So"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "that's what the Pike Committee mostly"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "was doing. Um, so these committees come"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "out, these congressional committees, and"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "they're investigating these past abuses,"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "and they have an incentive to find a lot"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "of dirt because it's got people on them"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "like Ronald Reagan, and they want to"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "make their names. Church wants to make"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "his name because he wants to run for"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "president. And I think Ron Reagan was"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "actually on the Rockefeller Commission."}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "I think I messed that up. Sorry. But"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "Church was, you know, they want to make"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "a name for themselves. So they want to"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "get some sensational headlines that they"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "can use. And so they start investigating"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "not only um the stuff about the Vietnam"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "War dissidents who are protesting, but"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "they realize the family jewels, you"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "know, includes a lot more things. The"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "potential assassination, you know,"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "plots. It's ironic Gerald Ford sets up"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "this Rockefeller Commission because he"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "wants to prevent this concept of"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "assassinations, the idea that the CIA"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "might be involved in that from entering"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "into the public. Ironically, he's the"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "one that lets it slip because it was at"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "that meeting with the New York Times"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "editors that he said, you know, I"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "mentioned earlier, he says something to"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "the effect of what other skeletons are"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "in our closets, assassination, stuff"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "like that. That's off the record, you"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "know. So, he lets it slip. And so, it's"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "because Daniel Shore is the CBS news"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "correspondent that eventually gets to"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "Shore runs a story about this and now"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "the Rockefeller Commission has no choice"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "but to investigate it because it would"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "look like a how could you possibly"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "investigate uses and not that? And so he"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "kind of forces their hand even though"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "that was the very thing he tried to"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "prevent from happening. 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He was basically"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "doing that by making this helter skelter"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "and making this all about blood guts and"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "gore and the guy's just a crazy cult"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "leader murderer so that oh yeah we're"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "not going to talk about the probation"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "officer and stuff like that. meaning"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "like either he's a part of it or some"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "people have leaned on him and said,"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "\"Hey, hey, Mr. Prosecutor,"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "no one can know about this kind of"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "thing.\" And that that was very"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "compelling to me. It doesn't again it"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "doesn't put necessarily Jolly West in"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "the room with Manson and again I got to"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "go back and look at and and see exactly"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "what he said, but it does make it"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "certainly interesting considering all"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "the perfect things that were in place"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "like Marxist hippie movement. You know,"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "you have you have a terrorizing event in"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "Hollywood, by the way, with a with a"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "with a model star who's married to like"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "the hottest director at the time before"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "he, you know, did what he did, you know,"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "and all that. And it's like it is"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "reasonable to say that the day that the"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "60s ended figuratively and the day that"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "the actual full-blown hippie movement"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "ended was when the tape murders"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "happened. So if you are if you are and"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "again this is playing in some"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "probabilities rather than pointing to an"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "exact piece of evidence right now but"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "based upon the CIA's at least internal"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "documents talking about the hippie"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "movement and having concerns about that."}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "If you are the CIA and everything you"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "hate exists in communism or anything"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "that could be even slightly traced to"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "it. That's a very good outcome for you"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "if something horrific suddenly takes"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "these peaceful yay, you know, hippies"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "and makes them this evil cult that"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "you're like, \"Oh, wait. I don't want my"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "kids involved with that.\" Or or even his"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "kids, you're like, \"I don't want to be"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "involved with that. I'm scared of that.\""}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "My mom talks about she was like six and"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "she had dreams like Charles Manson was"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "going to come to get her, you know, and"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "like it there was a real there was a"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "real psychological effect on society"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "here. So, I don't know. It it does it"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "does tie together very perfectly like a"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "bow. And I think it's reasonable again"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "without having seen the evidence"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "recently for you to to say, well, maybe"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "there's some things where there could be"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "a leap because it's based on, you know,"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "it seems like it could be and we don't"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "really have anything to prove that that"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "happened. Well, let me play devil's"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "advocate against myself. Um, there are"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "there's one main story of Jolly West in"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "this book that I I put where he does"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "seem to inter interfere in some kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "interrogation. It's it's a really sad"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "story. It's this guy named Jimmy Shaver"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "at Lackland Air Force Base. He's this"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "air officer and he kidnaps and abuses"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "this young girl and kills her and Jolly"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "West is put in charge of trying to get"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "the story out of this guy. Obviously"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "afterwards he doesn't want to talk about"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "anything. He says I had nothing to do"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "with that. Whatever. And there's like"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "blood over his clothes and everything."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "So Wes decides he's going to perform"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "some of these interrogation methods that"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "he's been talking about with Sydney"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "Gotautle in their correspondence. So he"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "drugs him. He does some hypnosis on him."}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "And during the interrogation, um, the"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "guy opens up a little bit about, well,"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "okay, maybe it is the case that, you"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "know, she got in the car with me and"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "maybe we did go down to this gravel pit,"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "but that's all like, you know, I don't"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "know what happened. I blinked out. I"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "can't remember. Um, and then there's a"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "cut in the in the recording of the"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "interrogation for about 30 minutes or"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "so, and then it picks right up. And then"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "afterwards, when it picks back up, Jolly"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "West says to Jimmy Shaver, \"Okay, so now"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "I want you to tell everyone what we just"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "talked about in that in that session.\""}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "He starts talking about how okay maybe I"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "did do this and maybe whatever and it's"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "like well what happened during those 30"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "minutes Wes starts asking all these"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "leading questions to him like no isn't"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "it the case that you abused her in this"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "way and in particular and all the and"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "leading questions and then Shaver kind"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "of goes along with it. So for me it's"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "like what's going on in those 30"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "minutes? Something it almost seems like"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "he"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "to me it almost seems like he was"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "telling Jimmy Shaver, you're going to"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "get the death penalty if you keep saying"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "what you're saying or you know you're"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "going to get the death penalty. Your"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "only shot here is to plead insanity. Uh"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "there's a long record of Jolly West"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "being completely against the death"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "penalty. Um really Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "Completely. He's a humanitarian. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "So he he has a lot of written stuff how"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "how you know it's a terrible thing. It"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "takes away from a person their own"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "autonomy and you should that's the one"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "thing you actually should have you know."}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "So he's against the death penalty you"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "know. So I think it's possible that"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "during those 30 minutes he was trying to"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "negotiate with Shaver basically like"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "admit to this stuff and we can make you"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "out to look insane. I'm going to ask you"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "some leading questions about how God"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "came to you and all this stuff and told"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "you to do this and you know there's this"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "your evil I think it was like his evil"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "cousin or something when he was young"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "abused him and made him do this stuff"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "you know it affected him in such a way."}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "So that might be some tampering right"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "there that I think Jolly West was fully"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "capable of. Where that gets interesting"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "again is he always sought out"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "sensational legal cases. He really"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "wanted a high profile for himself. He"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "liked being in the spotlight. One of"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "those was Jack Ruby. And so took the"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "words right out of my mouth. Yeah. So"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "when Jack Ruby is in jail, spent a lot"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "of hours with him. Yeah. Yeah. So Jack"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "Ruby ends up going insane, you know, and"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "there the judge in the case uh this is"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald. The"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "judge in the case asked that there be a"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "psychiatrist that evaluate Jack Ruby to"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "determine whether he's sane or not. And"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "so one of the psychiatrists who does"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "this is Jolly West. Yeah. They just sent"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "him. Yeah. He was the guy. There's no"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "other psychiatrist. Afterwards, the"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "judge says, \"I want somebody really"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "disinterested to go and do it.\" And so"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "Jolly West is put to the side and"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "another psychiatrist goes in and the"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "other psychiatrist says, \"Yeah, you"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "know, he's insane. There's no way. It"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "doesn't seem to me like this could have"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "been, you know, uh on, you know, it"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "seems legitimate, like it wouldn't have"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "been on set randomly or something unless"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "somebody drugged him or whatever and"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "nobody had access to him.\" I was like,"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "\"Well, Jolly West had access to him"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "right before that.\" So I don't I don't"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "know if that's true, but to play devil's"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "devil's advocate advocate against"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "myself, I think it's possible that West"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "was uh trying to manipulate these cases"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "in a certain way. Yeah. How does he end"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "even at the front end of that though? I"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "make the joke about it. But in all"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "seriousness, judge orders this. It's the"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "biggest case in the world at that time."}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "How does he end up being the first"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "psychologist who who goes in there of of"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "the probably million psychologists that"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "exist at least within, you know, a"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "flight's time away to get there. He's"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "the guy. That's awfully coincidental. He"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "is one of the most famous in the"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "country. And this might be a situation"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "of confusing correlation with causation."}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "I don't know. But it could be the case"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "that the reason why he's involved in MK"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "Ultra and this trial and Patty Hurst is"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "because he was already really famous"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "from the Korean War stuff, you know. So,"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "is it correlation? Like, everyone wants"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "him to be involved because he's famous,"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "or do they want him to be involved"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "because there's some something going on,"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "you know? So, I don't I don't want to"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "confuse correlation and causation, but,"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "you know, it's something to think about."}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "That's the devil's advocate to the"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "devil's advocate of the devil's"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "advocate. That's some next level [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "All right. Can we actually pull this up?"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "Allesia, because I'm glad you brought"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "that up. Jolly West, Jack Ruby. Let's"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "Let's see what what CIADS says about"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "this. A lot on this one. Okay. A lot."}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Yeah. It like popped up before I even"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "typed it in. By the way, did you like in"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "because you did one chapter on this, but"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "did you look into Jolly West's origin"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "story on a similar way that you looked"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "into God? No. No, not really. I I the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "opposite. In fact, his son wrote a book"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "about West's death because West um"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "committed suicide with the help of his"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "son. His son helped him kill himself by"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "downing pills. He he had cancer all"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "throughout his body. And you know, I"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "mentioned that he was against the death"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "penalty. Jolly West was. And so, he"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "eventually wanted to take that autonomy"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "into his own hands. Then he got his son"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "to help him kill himself. And then a"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "couple years later, his son helped his"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "son killed his own mother again in like"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "this, you know, u assisted suicide type"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "thing. And then a few years after that,"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "the son killed himself. So there's some"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "weird stuff going on. Not not that"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "that's like a, you know, a conspiracy or"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "something. It's just his son wrote a"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "book about this. So the son wrote a book"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "about how he helped his parents kill"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "himself. All right, let's do"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "let's start with the Fox 2 and then"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "we're going to come back to the sixth"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "floor museum. So yeah, let's start with"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "that one. that says, \"Psychiatrist 19,"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "what was the title there? Psychiatrist"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "1960s LSD mind control experiments come"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "back to haunt America."}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "Last month's US National Archives"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "release of thousands of previously"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "classified documents collected as part"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "of US government review and the"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "has raised questions about a prominent"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "psychiatrist who assessed Jack Ruby, who"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "murdered Lee Harvey Oswald, the alleged"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "killer of Kennedy before Oswald got to"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "trial. The December 1522 release of the"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "documents has resurrected attention to"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "the late Lewis Jolly West, a California"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "psychiatrist who was funded by the CIA"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "to conduct LSD experiments in the 50s to"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "70s. The Citizens Commission on Human"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "Rights International Mental Health"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "Industry Watchdog said it also raises"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "concerns about the military psychedelic"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "drug research being conducted today."}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "Okay, go down. Let's go. So"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "according to Wes written assessment,"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "Ruby was quote technically insane"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "unquote and in need of immediate"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "psychiatric hospitalization."}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "Those are conclusions that puzzingly"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "puzzlingly no one who had spoken to Jack"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "Ruby Ruby previously had reached. That's"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "funny. Ruby had seemed perfectly sane to"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "the people who knew him. Louis Lewis"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "West pronounced him crazy according to a"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "recent news report. But West was a"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "prominent player in the now infamous MK"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "Ultra program in which CIA doctors gave"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "powerful psych psychiatric drugs to"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "Americans without their knowledge."}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "Again, you're starting to now you're"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "getting more 3D with what's evidence and"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "what's speculation and it's really"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "speculation because this is the craziest"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "murder in modern history or whatever you"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "want to say. West always denied his"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "affiliation with the CIA. He said there"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "was never anything, you know, there's"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "never anything. And yet we have these"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "letters between him and Sydney Gotle's"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "pseudonym, Sherman Griff. So it's like"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "of course he did. Yeah. You and the most"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "famous experiment that Jolly West was"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "involved in was in Oklahoma after uh you"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "know in later in his career he was at"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "the University of Oklahoma. He gave LSD"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "to an elephant. Tusco the elephant at"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "the zoo and he gave a really big dose"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "which of course an elephant is a much"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "bigger body mass. So of course you're"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "going to increase the dose. But"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "apparently he increased it even more"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "than just accounting for body mass. This"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "elephant started having a seizure, fell"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "over, defecated, and then died. So he"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "killed this, you know, huge elephant,"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "Tusco the elephant. And it's not like he"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "could keep this hidden or anything. This"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "is like front page news. This elephant"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "all of a sudden dies. And he he wrote a"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "report about this experiment. And at the"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "very end of which he says something"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "like, uh, it seems like the elephant is"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "highly susceptible to LSD. No [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "Sherlock. I wonder why. Yeah. So yeah,"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "he didn't keep that hidden. And then his"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "colleagues at the University of"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "Oklahoma, I was looking at what they"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "were saying about this. They were all"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "freaking out at the time because they"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "thought, \"How are we going to get rid of"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "this elephant? where where are we going"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "to get get the money to pay for this and"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "do what everything and later the head of"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "the department who became the head he"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "learned that oh it was CIA money that"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "eventually kind of cleared all this up"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "so that you know they didn't have to pay"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "anything. What was the initial I I I"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "don't think we talked about this on"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "camera but what was the initial idea to"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "jump to LSD"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "as the experimental drug of choice? Why"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "did they do that? Yeah, for a couple"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "reasons. One of the obvious reasons is"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "that it has an obvious psychological"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "effect. So, you know, we're looking for"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "something that can alter a person's"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "personality or behavior. This obviously"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "does that. You know, anyone just takes a"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "little bit, it does something. Another"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "reason is because in the early 1950s,"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "there is a poisoning that happens in"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "France in this small little city."}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "There's a bakery that has urgot fungus"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "on a lot of the bread. And a lot of the"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "citizens of this uh town, they eat this"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "bread and they go insane, you know, for"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "for a couple days. Five people end up"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "dying from this. people are like ripping"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "off their clothes and jumping into the"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "water and doing all kinds of stuff. And"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "the question is, what happened to these"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "people? And it turns out it's this urgot"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "fungus, but it's similar to LSD and its"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "effects. And so the idea is that if this"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "can happen in in a small city, imagine"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "what the Soviets could do if they"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "release this kind of thing like LSD in"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "the water supply. What if they do it,"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "you know, at a military base or just the"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "water supply of a major city? Well, we"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "need to understand like what the effects"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "of that are going to be. If it can cause"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "these people to go and sad in France and"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "multiple people die from it, then we've"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "got to know. So that's another one of"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "the catalysts for studying LSD in"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "particular. Did and what other drugs did"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "they use in this program? You mentioned"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "weed, but every drug you can think of."}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "So at a couple a couple of the sub"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "projects happened at prisons. One was at"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary. This"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "was by Carl Feifer. And the other was at"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "what's called the narcotic farm in"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "Lexington, Kentucky. and Sydney Godly"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "would send them all kinds of drugs from,"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "you know, not just like normal drugs,"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "heroin and whether in and LSD and"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "marijuana, but also uh reject drugs. So,"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "pharmaceutical companies would test"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "certain drugs and they wouldn't want to"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "use some because they had too bad of"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "side effects or whatever. So, he would"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "send these reject drugs to try on these"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "prisoners. Um, one of the things that"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "was going on in Atlanta involuntarily,"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "right? Uh, oh. Uh, well, it yes, they"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "were strongly advised in a way. Well,"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "they actually the prisoners did sign"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "consent forms. So, they knew and on the"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "consent forms it says LSD. You know,"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "you're going to get this LSD, whatever."}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "It's it's a question of informed"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "consent. Did they actually know the"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "repercussions? It's not like they can"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "know what all these drugs are going to"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "do to them. So, at the narcotic farm in"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "Lexington, the guy who was in charge of"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "it is named Harris Isbel. The narcotic"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "farm was a place where prisoners and"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "addicts could go um to get reformed, you"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "know. So if you're a drug addict, you"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "can check yourself into the narcotic"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "farm into this prison basically and you"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "can go through some programs and try to"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "get off. Heroin is the main thing"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "they're curing people or trying to cure"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "people of. Although at the same time you"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "could volunteer for these experiments"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "under Harris Isbel and you would take"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "these drugs. And so a lot of the a lot"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "of the people who would do this was just"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "repeat customers. You know they would"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "get their fix of drugs as part of these"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "experiments. They would leave and then"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "after a while they would run out of"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "their own supply. They would check"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "themselves back in. They would get these"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "drugs. And here's the crazy thing. As"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "payment for participating in this drug"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "experiment, this uh this MK Ultra sub"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "project, Harris Isbel, you could have a"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "couple things. You could get like a"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "positive letter for the parole board. So"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "maybe if you're in prison, you can get a"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "reduced sentence or something like that."}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "Or you can go to the drug bank, stick"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "out your arm, and get an injection of"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "heroin straight into it. So it's like"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "they're trying to cure these people of"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "their addiction. And as payment for this"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "sub project, they're giving them heroin."}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "Oh my god."}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "God, there's so many layers to this. Did"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "that exhaust you in researching this?"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "Like you're constantly finding like,"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "\"Oh, here's another angle.\" Uh, in a"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "way, but I like this. I mean, I like"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "finding the nitty-gritty. Like, I want"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "to I like the detective hunt of it. I"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "mentioned that I kind of like the Gonzo"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "journalist style of writing because I"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "want to kind of live it through these"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "people, you know, whoever's writing it,"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "the journalist. Um, for me, the really"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "fun part of researching and writing a"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "book like this is not just the writing,"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "it's the researching. You know, I like"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "going to the archives. I like"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "interviewing people. I like trying to"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "put it all together and saying, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "this is a great example that can fit"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "there.\" I see it as kind of a detective"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "hunt, you know? So, I'm a historian, but"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "in a in a lot of ways, there are similar"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "methods that I or techniques that I try"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "to use. I'm I'm trying to put together"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "evidence and form a coherent story and"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "the most plausible explanation of what"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "went on. So, to me, it's it's fun. I"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "really like this stuff. Thank you guys"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "for checking out this clip. If you"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "haven't already subscribed, please"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "subscribe and hit the like button on"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "this video. It is a huge huge help. And"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "if you'd like to check out this clip's"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "full podcast episode, that link is in"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "the description below or right here. And"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "finally, you can follow me on Instagram"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "and X by using the links in my"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "description below."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "But what one of the things in the middle"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "of MK Ultra that gets discussed a lot"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "that I think you went into in your book,"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "I got to find out when I read it, but we"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "were at least talking off air a little"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "bit about it was the whole hippie"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "movement and like the time this that"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "this was going on because you had,"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "you know, you had like the great"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "awakening happening in the 60s, the"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "countercultural movement, rock music,"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "peace, love, and drugs, like the whole"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "bit. And a lot of the let's say the vibe"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "or politics of the hippies and the"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "people there were more along the lines"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "of say Marxist which is not a perfect"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "way of putting it but at least like if"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "you were from the traditional US"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "standpoint that's how they looked at"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "these people and you know Tom O'Neal"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "wrote this pretty unbelievable book that"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "was 20 years in the making when he put"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "it out called Chaos and people have"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "heard that Rogan podcast he's been on"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "Danny Jones and other shows as"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "since then. But, you know, essentially"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "he started with this investigation that"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "was supposed to be I think it was he was"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "going to work on it for 3 months. It was"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "supposed to be a piece just"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "commemorating the 30-year murder for"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "Esquire magazine or something, the"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "30-year anniversary of the Manson"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "murders. And it turned into this whole"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "thing where he basically was like"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "destitute for a while even and it just"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "kept getting bigger and bigger and"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "became this book. and he probably has"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "another book in him, but part of what he"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "seemed to get at, and there were a lot"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "of different pieces to this, was that"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "Manson was was maybe linked to MK Ultra"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "and that the CIA and government"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "organizations wanted to basically"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "infiltrate the"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "peace and love hippie movement because"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "they were concerned about the pol the"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "political ramifications of something"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "like that getting out of control. Did"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "you look at any of this in in your"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "investigation related to MK Ultra? Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "I have a chapter on Jolly West who who"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "was one of the in charge of one of the"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "sub projects and he's the main guy that"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "Tom O'Neal says was involved in either"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "doing some kind of experiments with"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "Manson or on Manson or something like"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "that. Um, so I have a chapter on Jolly"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "West. I didn't look really into Manson"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "myself because he already has that book"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "and you know that's not really the"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "thrust of my book. I only have one"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "chapter to to do this and so that didn't"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "become a big part of mine. Can you tell"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "everyone about Jolly West who's not"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "familiar? Yes. Jolly West is this uh"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "he's this psychiatrist who was working"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "at Lackland Air Force Base. He was the"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "guy I think I mentioned at the beginning"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "of this that was interviewing these"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "servicemen who were prisoners of war in"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Korea and trying to determine whether"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "they be being mind controlled or"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "something else. Um Tom O'Neal makes the"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "connection that Jolly Weston later in"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "his career went to UCLA and he was doing"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "some experiments over there. Jolly West"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "had this connection with Sydney"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "Gotautle. They have this correspondence"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "that's in Jolly West's paper at UCLA."}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "Gotautle goes under a pseudonym and the"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "correspondent Sherman Griffford. Um, but"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "it's Sydney Gotautle. And West says that"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "I would love to do some experiments. And"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "MK Ultra starts funding him to do some"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "of these. A lot of it's like hypnotism"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "experiments trying to implant false"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "memories, something like that. And"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "O'Neal tries to make this connection"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "between West and Manson. you know, they"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "were kind of at similar locations at"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "about the same time. I I like his book"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "for a couple reasons and I don't like it"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "for one reason. Okay. But the writing is"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "phenomenal. And here the best part about"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "the book to me it content aside, I love"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "Gonzo journalism where you're like it's"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "the person there doing the thing. I'm"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "reading his story of how he came to find"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "out about this. I love like the behind"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "the scenes. Let's get into the archives."}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Let's get you tell me about the"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "interviews, how they went, how you found"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "this person. He does a such a good job"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "of that, telling his own story of"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "finding out about this. So that was my"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "favorite part of the book. The second"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "part of the book is it's kind of three"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "different books. That's one book. The"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "next part is about Manson, like the"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "Manson murders. And there was a previous"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "book about the Manson murders, Helter"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Skelter, by this guy Bulioce. And Tom"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "O'Neal writes about a lot. Yeah. He kind"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "of takes that apart saying, you know,"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "Bulioce is saying that Manson did this"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "because he wanted to spark a race war"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "and all this stuff, but O'Neal picks"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "that apart and says that that's not"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "what's happening. Buliocei was crazy,"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "man. That was a He was a demented guy."}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "Yeah. In the third part of the book is"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "O'Neal making this or trying to make"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "this connection between Jolly West and"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "Manson. Maybe Manson was involved in"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "this some way. Maybe he was a victim of"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "one of these experiments. Maybe that led"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "him to do certain things or manipulate"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "certain people. Maybe he learned how to"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "do something from this. I don't really"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "see that. O'Neal himself admits in the"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "book that he never really found the"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "smoking gun evidence that these two"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "people ever interacted or around each"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "other. They're kind of in the same"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "place. It's possible that they did. But"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "again, for me, possible. Something about"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "that word just doesn't sit right. You"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "know, in history, I always try to stay"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "away from words like maybe, probably,"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "might be, could be, should be, possibly."}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Those are unsure words, and I want to be"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "sure of what I'm saying. There there was"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "a documentary made based on chaos. I"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "think it's called Chaos on Netflix. And"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "again in that documentary, uh, O'Neal"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "says, \"Yeah, you know, I I think there's"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "a connection some somewhere in there,"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "but I wasn't really able to make it.\""}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "And to me, it's like, okay, it's a good"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "book. I like learning about all three of"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "these things, but I just don't see how"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "they coales together that well. Like,"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "what what's the connection? If if it's"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "not if there's not specifically, as as"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "Tom O'Neal seems to admit as well, a"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "smoking gun that say Jolly West was in"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "the same room with Charles Manor or"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "something like that. Wasn't the case"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "though that he makes of the clear of the"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "I forget the guy's name, but the"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "probation officer for Manson just"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "repeatedly with no explanation letting"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "him off and also having direct"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "connections to CIA and then even going"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "back to Manson's times in in juvenile"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "where you know he was in trouble and and"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "living in Jubie Hall and there's"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "evidence to say he was experimented on."}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Wouldn't that alone without the Jolly"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "West smoking gun scenario point to a"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "strong possibility that a hippie like"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "Manson who had a lot of pre-existing"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "problems was someone who clearly could"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "have been targeted for a program like"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "this similarly to how they targeted"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "you know people with hookers in rooms"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "behind you know double double-sided"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "glass. Uh yeah, it's possible but it"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "gets again to that question of what's"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "more probable. So on that documentary, I"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "I don't know if this was in the book,"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "but it's in the documentary, which I"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "think it was a good inclusion. They"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "interview one of the cult members who"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "was convicted of murder. It wasn't the"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "like Sharon Tate. It wasn't those"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "murders. It was before it was a drug"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "deal gone bad, I think it was. And Bobby"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "Busle, I think was his name. And they"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "interview him and he says, you know,"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "what what was this all about? You know,"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "how did he get these people to, you"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "know, kill kill Sharon Tate in these or"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "why were they going to that place in the"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "first place? He says, \"Well, there was"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "this guy who denied him like a recording"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "contract or something like that, and he"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "thought he lived there, and so he sent"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "these people to kill them, and he wanted"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "his underlings to go do it because"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "Manson wanted them to get dirt on their"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "hands so they would be subservient to"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "him. He wanted to have dirt on them so"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "that, you know, they would be under his"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "control even more.\" So, to me, it seems"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "like, well, that, yeah, that's kind of"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "like a more probable explanation. You"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "know, that seems to happen a lot in not"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "necessarily in the same circumstances"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "where, you know, all these murders are"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "going to happen, but yeah, people are"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "going to manipulate other people and"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "they hold a grudge against someone and"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "so they want to get retaliation. To me,"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "that seems like the possible"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "explanation. The irony for me with Tom"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "O'Neal is that he talks about uh"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Buliosce's book and tears it apart and"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "does a really good job at it saying the"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "reason why you know Helter Skelter this"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "race war you know Bouiosi apparently"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "says that you know Manson's wanting to"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "spark this and uh O'Neal thinks that"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Bouiosi did that so he could sell books"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "this is obviously very sensational if"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Manson really did want to do that then"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "yeah that's like the biggest story in"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "the world then this is going to sell"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "tons of books and it did it sold a ton"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "of books for To me, the irony is that,"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "you know, O'Neal is making this"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "connection to to MK Ultra. And to me, it"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "seems like that's kind of"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "sensationalizing it, too. I think"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "there's this more probable explanation,"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "and I I don't really see the connection."}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "I don't think he's doing it because he's"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "trying to sensationalize it to sell"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "books. I think he's putting that in his"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "book, even though there's not like that"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "clear direct evidence that there's a"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "link, because he did all this research"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "for 30 years or however long it was, and"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "it's he kind of falls victim to the"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "fallacy of sunk costs. I did all this"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "research looking up this guy Jolly West"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "because I thought there was a connection"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "and even though I didn't find a direct"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "one, there still might be something"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "there. So, you know, I just don't I"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "don't want this to go into the scrap"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "bin. So, I'm going to put in the book,"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "too. So, I I think I don't think there"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "was a nefarious intent in it. I think"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "he's doing it because, hey, I did this"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "research and I want people to know what"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "I was researching. And I like that part"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "of the book, like the research and what"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "he's doing, but I was just not convinced"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "of the connection that he is drawing."}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "Thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed,"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "on this video. 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[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "However, there's no like targeted truth"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "drug. But Martin or Martin Orin realizes"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "that either with a truth drug or with"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "hypnosis, you don't necessarily have to"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "do it for it to be effective. So, you"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "don't actually have to put someone in a"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "hypnotized state to make them hypnotized"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "in order for hypnosis to be effective."}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "So, this is kind of an ironic thing, but"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "he says, \"If you can make them think"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "that they've been hypnotized or make"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "them think that they've taken a truth"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "drug, then that might lower their"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "inhibitions by thinking, well, they've"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "given this thing to me and basically,"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "you know, I have no choice in the matter"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "because it's going to work anyway, so I"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "might as well just spill my secrets.\""}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "So, if you can induce the belief that"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "they're hypnotized or that the belief"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "that this truth is effective, even if"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "it's not, that might be effective in"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "itself because you lower their"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "inhibitions and make them think, I might"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "as well just say, \"I have no choice. I"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "mean, they gave me this truth. What am I"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "going to do?"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "That's next level mind [\u00a0__\u00a0] right"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "there. There's a there's a report I"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "think it gets released I think it's"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "created maybe in 1963 called Kubark"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "counter intelligence interrogation and"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Kubark is the CI it was the CIA's"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "cryptonym for itself. So you know that"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "like MK Ultra is a you know a cryptonm"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "the CIA's cryptonm for itself was Kubar"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "for a long time and so this is on in Kub"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "you know so if you wanted to refer to"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "the CIA but not the CIA it would be"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "Kubar or at least was it's not anymore."}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "God, what a terrible name. I I don't"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "know where that derives from, but this"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "manual gets released in 1963 and they're"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "talking about interrogation methods. And"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "this is one of the things they point to."}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "You know, they say torture, it talks"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "about torture a little bit, but it says"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "in large part it's not that effective"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "because if you resort to tor to torture"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "early in an interrogation, then the"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "interrog"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "you have no other options left, you"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "know, and so if they can just hold out"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "for a little while longer, then you're"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "probably going to stop and they're"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "probably right, you know. So it says"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "that's not useful. If you resort to"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "torture at the very end of an"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "interrogation after doing everything"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "else, then they're going to realize that"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "you're at your last resort. And so"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "they're going to know, oh, if I can just"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "hold on a little bit longer, then"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "they're done with whatever they can do."}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "What was it? KSM used to like count the"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "seconds while he was getting"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "waterboarded to when as to when they had"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "to stop. Oh, really? I didn't know."}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "Okay, keep"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "going. So this Kubach report, it"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "references this work of Martin Orange"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "saying, you know, this is the potential"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "for a proper interrogation method that"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "might actually work better than torture."}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "At least induce the state of if not"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "hypnosis, the belief that the state of"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "hypnosis has been induced. So that's"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "where some of this was actually turned"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "into a a useful thing that got uh"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "acknowledged by the CA and put in this"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "report about interrogation methods. All"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "right, real fast. I got to go to the"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "bathroom. You're blowing my mind,"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "though. This is crazy. We'll be right"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "back. All right, we're back. That that"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "is interesting by the way when you were"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "saying back in there that there's like"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "documentation of the torture not"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "necessarily working because people are"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "just going to say what you want and"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "stuff and that is decades before they"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "actually try the enhanced interrogation"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "program. So it's interesting just either"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "the cognitive dissonance or whatever"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "that is to then be like no but it'll"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "it'll work this time. Yeah, that that's"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "such a good point and I try to make that"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "at the end of this book too because"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "these MK Ultra methods, they try to make"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "them work through drugs or hypnosis or"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "whatever and it's kind of a failure. You"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "know, they they don't aren't really able"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "to make someone spill the beans in the"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "interrogation or whatever. Um, however,"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "during, you know, the war on terror, you"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "have uh these enhanced interrogations,"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "these torture. The reason why um the CIA"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "was trying to develop these MK Ultra"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "methods is because it was trying to get"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "away from that. What what are methods"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "that actually work? So, it's so ironic"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "that we eventually end up going back to,"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "you know, torture whence. Isn't that why"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "we were trying to develop these"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "alternative methods because the original"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "ones didn't work and now we're going to"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "return back to those because, well, if"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "MK Ultra doesn't work, I guess we'll"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "just stick with what we've done before."}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "Mind control is better. It's better."}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "It's it's it's nice. You can clean that"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "one up a little bit and say, well, we're"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "not torturing them. We're just we're"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "just getting the truth, you know. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "It's an easier sale. Yeah. And you know,"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "with the phrase even enhanced"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "interrogation at the beginning of this"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "book, I mentioned several of these"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "euphemisms within the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "community. They even go down a long list"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "of different presidential"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "administrations. Instead of saying"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "assassination, well, we don't see"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "assassination. It's, you know, targeted"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "killing or it's um lethal direct action"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "or it's, you know, liquidation or"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "something like that. It's like, you"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "know, so the intelligence community is"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "filled with these kinds of euphemisms."}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "Yes. which is kind of Orwellian you know"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "in I think it's politics in the English"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "language George Orwell writes about"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "euphemisms within the state and how it"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "you know we call it pacification but"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "what is it really like when you look at"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "it it's you know killing these innocent"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "children and whatever okay okay yeah but"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "we'll call it pacification like it's"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "it's pacifying you know we're just"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "calming things down but yeah so that's a"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "pretty rife within the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "community well yeah and it's it's rife"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "everywhere it's it's window dressing I"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "mean I've heard Edward Stone talk about"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "like the prime example of the Patriot"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "Act. You pass something called the"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Patriot Act right after 9/11. It's like"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "got the name Patriot in it. Like it"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "sounds [\u00a0__\u00a0] amazing. It might as well"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "be called Save the Puppies Act. No one's"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "going to vote against it just on the"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "title. But if you read the fine print,"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "you're like, \"Wait a minute. This is"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "hold on a second. The Constitution's not"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "going to exist after this.\" And that's"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "that, you know, why would it be any"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "different in the spy world? Because they"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "do have to look out for when certain"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "programs may actually come public or"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "something like that. It's interesting"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "though because you know there was like a"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "lot of hoopla with the whole JFK thing"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "getting released. I mean I appreciate"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "that we got something right like no"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "one's ever done that before. As a"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "historian the more documents. Let's see"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "them. Have you poured through them at"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "all? No. So I guess it's like 80,000"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "documents or something. I haven't"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "personally poured through them. I've"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "talked to some people who have gone"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "through a lot of them. But it's like you"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "know the they're not"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "I my Andy Bamante who's an ex CIA spy. I"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "always put that in air quotes. You know,"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "he talks about how, and I think he's"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "right, unfortunately. He's like, \"If"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "there were ever even documents created"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "about this that could point anything"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "back anywhere near the CIA or Pentagon,"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "I can assure you if they were even"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "created, they were destroyed shortly"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "thereafter or immediately.\" And you have"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "to wonder, you know, if you're able to"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "go through to bring this back to MK"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "Ultra, if you're able to go through and"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "find some depositions where like Sydney"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Gotautle, like the godfather of this is"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "actually talking, that's amazing because"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "we at least have something. If we were"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "able to get some admission of that"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "through the Church Commission and and"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "things like that, like that's amazing."}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "That's something. But you do wonder"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "about all the things that we're never"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "going to know about that they did. Like"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "you say, 149 sub programs. That's a lot."}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Maybe it was maybe there was a zero"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "behind that and we don't you know what I"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "mean? Like that's got to be stressful to"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "think about when you're when you're"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "researching this cuz it's like man I got"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "such a big picture here. But am I just"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "looking at the dot on the page and"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "there's actually a whole galaxy out"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "there we're missing. You ever think"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "about that? I do. But I think that is"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "kind of a slippery slope because you can"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "always say well it could have been this"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "or it could have been that. Yeah, it"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "could have been anything but I'm not you"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "know as a historian I don't do could"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "haves. I do what was. What was the case?"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "What can I show you was the case? What"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "are the documents that lead me to say"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "this? Anything could be true, but I have"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "to determine what was as far as I can"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "prove. Yeah. You know, so um this is"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "this is especially rife within some of"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "these conspiracy theorists that I talk"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "about in the very last chapter of this"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "book where you they especially point to"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "the fact that since God destroyed these"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "MK Ultra files, thousands of them, that"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "kind of opens the door for them to paint"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "MK Ultra as anything they want to of"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "their wildest imagination. Maybe it was"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "involving sex slaves and maybe they did"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "actually have vice presidents hunting"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "people for sport inside of military"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "enclosures and maybe it really does"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "control pop star Britney Spears or this"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "other thing. So, you know,"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "the the conspiracy theorists especially"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "will latch on to the the idea that we"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "can't know everything about MK Ultra,"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "therefore it could have been. Yeah. The"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the problem they run into though from my"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "perspective is that they don't have"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "anything to prove what they're saying,"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "you know? So it's not like it's not"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "verifiable. And then when you point out"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "that you they don't have anything,"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "they'll say, \"Well, of course we don't.\""}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "Like it was destroyed. You know, of"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "course we don't. Like the CIA is not"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "going to release that stuff. So any you"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "know, it's lacking proof. It can't be"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "proven, but it also can't be disproven."}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "So it's like it's it's not falsifiable,"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "but it's also not verifiable. It's like"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "it's a it's a win-win for them either"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "way in anything that any kind of theory"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "that that's way that it you can never be"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "wrong. I'm kind of skeptical of that."}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "That's a that's a great point. It's a"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "and and you know what's interesting?"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "You're kind of like in the middle here."}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "Like you're a middleman in a way. Not"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "intentionally, but it's a useful place"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "to be because you're reporting on"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "something that actually did exist. We"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "know that that was bad. And you're also"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "finding new information that was"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "available out there in the public domain"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "to kind of put the story together more"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "so you can point to this is where you"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "know lack of oversight and"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "compartmentalization goes wrong. But"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "you're also trying to just, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "like a lawyer, stay with the facts. What"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "do we know? It doesn't mean all these"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "other things aren't true. But if you"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "make a leap on the 5% and then say, \"No,"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "no, that means it's 100%.\" Well, you've"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "just made a 95% leap without evidence."}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "And that even if you want to rip the CIA"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "on stuff, which we all do, like in a"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "court of law at least, like you can't do"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "that if you're making a real case. So I"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "I can understand that. And like some"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "people get pissed off by that because"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "they want to believe every [\u00a0__\u00a0] thing"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "ever. is a conspiracy. And yes, like I"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "said earlier, there are some stuff where"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "it's like, okay, this per all these"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "people died right before they were going"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "to testify, stuff like that. There's"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "certainly something there, but it gets"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "tough because, you know, the tracks get"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "covered, documents get destroyed, and"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "you know, we kind of have to operate"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "like we don't know what we don't know"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "and live in that state of suspicion. And"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "once we learn enough about MK Ultra, we"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "find these documents and depositions"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "and, you know, all kinds of other"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "records, I feel like we can know enough"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "about it to know what it wasn't. So, we"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "we can't know everything about what it"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "was, but we can know about what it"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "wasn't. And here's an analogy that's"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "helpful for me to think of to make that"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "make sense a little bit more. If you"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "know, if I'm to ask someone, what's the"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "shape of the Earth? They'll hopefully"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "say a sphere. You know, something like"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "it's it's spherical. But that's not"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "quite right. It's not really a sphere."}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "You know, it spins and so it bulges on"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "its act it bulges, you know, so it's an"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "oblate spheroid. You know, it's thicker"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "in the middle than it is at the top and"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "bottom. So, it's an oblate sphere, but"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "that's not quite right either because it"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "has this complicated topography. There"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "are mountains and valleys and all. We"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "can't ever know the exact shape of the"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "Earth, you know, but we can have a"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "really good approximation of what it is."}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "A sphere is a really good approximation."}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "We can know enough about the shape of"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "the Earth to know it's not flat, you"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "know. So, we can't know exactly what it"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "is, but we can know enough about it to"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "know it's not that. The same with MK"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "Ultra. We can we can't know everything"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "that happened under MK Ultra, but we can"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "know enough about it to know that it"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "doesn't involve presidents using jelly"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "beans to control these people into sex"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "slaves or whatever, which is what one of"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "these people claims. So, you know,"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "that's kind of my two cents on that."}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "It's tough though, too, because we're"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "living in a time where people have"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "access to so much and then start to,"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "like we were saying earlier in a similar"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "conversation, start to get ideas in"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "their head that they're married to. You"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "cannot convince them otherwise. You see"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "this again and again and it's, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "I always give the example of like"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "imagine, let's assume for a second that"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "wall back there actually were pure"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "white. Someone out there would be like,"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "well, it's typically whatever. Just"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "assume it was actually pure white for a"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "second. You could bring back with"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "certain people. You could bring back the"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] ghost of Leonardo da Vinci and"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "Michelangelo for the scientific and"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "artistic perspective of why this wall is"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "white. They could give a dissertation on"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "it for 25 minutes and some guy will nod"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "along and at the end of that be like,"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "\"Fuck that. It's black. It's just how it"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "is. You're not going to convince"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "everyone.\" So that's just, you know, I"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "especially in the type of seat I am"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "where we talk with different people"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "about ideas and whatever. There's"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "always, you know, you're never going to"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "make everyone happy. There's going to be"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "people who are like, \"That guy was full"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "of shit.\" And there's going to be people"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "be like, \"There's nothing that guy said"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "that that that was wrong.\" And you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "I I think that's just, you know, in the"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "free speech environment, that's kind of"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "what we got to operate in. And one thing"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "to keep in mind, too, is it it's not"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "like I think these people aren't smart"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "or something like that. I I think"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "they're very rational in a way because"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "if you start from a false premise, if we"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "start from the premise that this wall is"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "black, we can rationalize different ways"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "to make that real for us. You know, if"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "you start from a false premise, humans"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "are really good at rationalizing things."}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "So we can rationalize the world to start"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "with a premise that even if it's false,"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "we can if if we believe it, we can make"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "everything make sense of that false"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "premise. The trick is to start with true"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "premises. You know, what are the"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "premises we can start with and derive"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "other things from and know that's true."}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "But if you start from a false premise, e"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "being rational sometimes is a bad thing"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "in that case because you can rationalize"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "anything because we're so good at"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "reasoning. I can think of a reason for"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "of course that wall isn't white, it's"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "black. you know, there must be some"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "chemical in the air that's making me see"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "white because you're trying to trick me"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "into thinking that I can rationalize"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "anyway, you know. So, at the end of the"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "book, I try to explain a way to"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "hopefully get around this and it's by"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "asking a few questions and the most"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "important of which is what's more"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "probable. You know, you always have to"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "go with the probability. So, for any"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "given set of evidence, there is always"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "going to be a potential infinite amount"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "of explanations or interpretations of"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "that evidence. The example I sometimes"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "give is if my keys are on my nightstand"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "when I go to sleep and I wake up and"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "they're not there, then that's the"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "evidence. But what's the interpretation"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "of that evidence? One interpretation is"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "that aliens beamed it up into their"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "spaceship and it's gone. Another is that"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "someone broke into my house and stole it"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "and were very quiet and I didn't hear"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "them or wake up. Another is that my wife"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "took them and is off, you know, in my"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "car doing something. So, how do I"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "determine between those explanations? I"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "can't appeal to the evidence itself"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "because they all account for that same"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "evidence. You know, I can't say, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "my keys are gone. Obviously, my wife"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "took them.\" No, but the alien thing"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "accounts for why my keys are gone, too."}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "I have to appeal to what's more probable"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "between those. Well, I have examples of"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "my wife doing it that in the past. You"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "know, she's taking my keys off my"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "nightstand, whatever. I don't have any"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "examples of the aliens. It could be"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "that. It doesn't mean it's not possible."}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "It just means it's a less probable one."}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "So, you got to go with a probability."}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "Yeah, it's fair. I I I don't disagree"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "with that. Thank you guys for checking"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "out this clip. If you haven't already"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe and hit the"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "like button on this video. It is a huge"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "huge help. 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[{"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "on this. Okay. So, do you think he had"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "you mentioned he was a little different,"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "a little bullied and stuff growing up?"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "Do you think there was an aspect of of"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "the"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "I don't know almost like mad scientist"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "experimentation he was doing across all"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "these different projects that was based"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "on him feeling a sense of power?"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "I I hesitate to say that. Um, one of the"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "reasons why is because the structure of"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "MK Ultra is isn't what many people think"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "that it is. So, it's not as if God is"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "doing these experiments. For the most"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "part, he's funding people who are"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "already doing these experiments. This is"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "what sometimes people don't realize"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "about MK Ultra. It's not you, George"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "White in Operation Midnight Climax being"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "the main exception. What mostly is"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "happening with these sub projects is"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "that there are researchers at"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "universities and prisons and hospitals"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "that are already doing these experiments"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "and they're already publishing about"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "them even though it's kind of crazy to"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "think about. You're dosing these people"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "with drugs. You know, sometimes they"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "don't aren't really giving informed"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "consent and you're publishing about"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "this, but that's what they were doing."}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "And Cindy got sees this and so he"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "decides to fund them so they continue"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "doing that so he can learn whether it"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "leads to anything. So that's kind of the"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "structure. It's not that MK Ultra"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "initiates all of these experiments. In"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "many cases, it's just trying to make"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "sure that these experiments continue"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "happening. So, um, right, but if you're"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "doing things like some of those 149"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "projects where you're, you know, there's"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "a power dynamic to it. Midnight Climax"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "is just the best example. You know, you"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "would think that the person who's"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "running that, I'm not saying it means"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "it, but you might be suspicious that"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "there's there's a there's a level of,"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "you know, pleasure they get from that."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "Like basically almost like I'm here in"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "the ivory tower and all these types of"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "people who would have made fun of me,"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "they're just the regular plebs of"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "society and we'll do what we want to try"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "to show them how the big boys run"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "society. Yeah. You know, yeah, that"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "might be a part of it. And also I I"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "wouldn't discount what you mentioned"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "there kind of the pleasure of it. In"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "many instances, not necessarily the sub"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "projects that he's not doing himself,"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "but in many instances it does seem like"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "he is trying to be one of the boys. You"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "know, he's trying to, oh, let's do this"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "funny prank on this guy because it'll be"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "fun at the office. For example, let's"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "put some LSD into the punch bowl at the"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "holiday party and see what happens. And"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "then a guy drinks it and he ends up like"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "going insane for that night and running"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "around and they can't find him and he"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "almost gets hits by hit by a car. So"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "that's the kind of thing. Wait, that was"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "a Wormwood guy, was it? Uh, no, that"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "wasn't Frank Olsson. Yeah, that this is"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "a different thing, but it's similar"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "similar to that kind of story. Um, but"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "yeah, it is kind of Sydney Gotle's"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "story. I do think he's trying to fit in"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "a lot of ways. And if hey, they're"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "joking around with each other. Here's a"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "practical joke I can do. I can place LSD"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "within some of this stuff. And, you"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "know, at the same time, I can see how"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "they react to it. So, I can learn"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "something about it and I can justify"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "this by saying, \"Oh, I'm I'm just for"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "national security.\" But really, yeah,"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "you know, I'm trying to be one of the"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "boys."}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "Did you I we were talking about that off"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "camerara. You saw that Wormwood"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "documentary on Netflix several years"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "ago, right? So, what was that guy's"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "name? Frank Olsson. Frank Olsen. And"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "what was the story there again for"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "people who haven't seen that? Yes. He"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "was a bacteriologist in what's called"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "Fort Dedric. That's the country's"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "biological warfare installation. So, he"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "was in charge of kind of developing"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "biological weapons that could be"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "dropped, you know, if need be. Uh"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "whether they be anthrax bombs or"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "something else. Um so he he was his"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "specialty was the airborne distribution"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "of pathogens. So he was involved in"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "several experiments like that. He and a"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "group within the Fort Dedric called the"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "special operations division, a group of"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "scientists mostly who were involved in"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "that kind of stuff. They occasionally"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "met with the people who were involved in"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "MK Ultra from the CIA. So they would"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "meet at this retreat called Deep Creek"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "and they would exchange information. and"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "they often cooperated with each other."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "If the CIA needed some kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "biological something, they would get it"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "from Fort Dedrich. And if they needed"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "information about how someone reacted to"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "whatever, they would get it from the"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "CIA. So, they would share information"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "about their experiments. And at one of"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "these experiments at Deep Creek, Sydney"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "Gotautle and his underling, Robert"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "Lashbrook, another chemist, they"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "decided, we're going to dose everyone"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "with LSD and going to see what happens."}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "So, they pour some LSD. They put some"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "LSD into the liquor and they started"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "pouring, you know, bottles for everyone"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "or shots for everyone except for a"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "couple people. One guy had a heart"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "problem so they didn't give it to him."}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "And another one was a reformed a"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "reformed alcoholic and they thought,"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "well, we're not going to give him any"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "either. So, a few people were spared."}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "But Frank Olsson is one of the people"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "who got the LSD that night. And you"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "know, in this book, I have during the"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "depositions and lashbrook are questioned"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "in depth about, you know, how it all"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "went down, how they poured it, and all"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "this stuff. So, if anyone's interested,"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "there's a lot more detail that they give"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "to how that night went down. But Frank"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "Olsson gets this LSD and most of the"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "people who are there, they the rooms"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "start spinning. They start seeing"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "hallucinations. They start laughing"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "uncontrollably and then they go to"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "sleep. But he can't. He he seems to have"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "some kind of psychotic break. He leaves"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "this retreat. He goes back home to his"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "wife, Alice, and she knows that"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "something is off with him. Something"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "doesn't seem right. She's asking him,"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "\"What's wrong? What's wrong?\" And he all"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "he says is, \"I made a terrible mistake."}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "Something went wrong. you know, I ruined"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "the experiment. And he won't won't"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "elaborate on what that is. And so, she's"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "really concerned about him. The next"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "day, he goes to work and his boss, this"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "guy named Vincent Ruit, who is at that"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "retreat, he tells his boss, I think you"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "should fire me, you know, like I I don't"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "deserve this job. I ruined the"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "experiment, something. And his boss is"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "saying, \"What are you talking about?"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "Like, you haven't done anything wrong.\""}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "And the next day, he says the same"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "thing. He comes back to his boss's"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "office. No, I think you should fire me."}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "Something's wrong. So he seems to be"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "having some kind of mental instability"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "or something's happening precipitated by"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "this LSD being put in his drink. So Ru"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "is worried about him. So is Lashbrook"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "and Godly. They decide they're going to"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "send him to a guy named Harold Abramson"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "in New York who is kind of a CIA"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "affiliate. So he knows that these LSD"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "experiments go on, but he's also I think"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "he's actually like an allergist, but you"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "know, they say he's a psychologist or"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "something. Maybe he can help him in some"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "way. So they send them to Abram, they"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "send Olsen to Abramson and they start"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "talking for a while. It turns out they"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "had known each other from World War II."}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "They had worked on a couple projects and"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "knew each other from that. And then once"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "and Lashbrook accompanies him up there."}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "Once Lashbrook leaves the room, Olsen"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "says, \"I think they're trying to put"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "stuff in my food and drink. You know,"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "I've got this paranoid.\" He He's"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "paranoid. He's breaking. He's breaking."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "Exactly. Yeah. So the next day is"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "Thanksgiving. So they decide, well,"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "we're going to take Olsen back to, you"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "know, back to Maryland where he's from"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "to spend, you know, Thanksgiving with"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "his family. So they fly back to"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "Maryland. Once they get there, they"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "haven't even gotten home yet, but he"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "gets off the plane and he says,"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "\"Something's"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "wrong. I think, you know, the police are"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "out to get me. Just send me to the"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "police station. They're looking for me"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "anyway.\" It's like, \"What are you"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "talking about? Nobody's looking for"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "you.\" So they decide, well, he's really"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "not in the state to go be with his"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "family right now. So one of the people"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "who were accompanying him, they go tell"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "Alice that we're going to take him back"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "to New York. They ended up taking it"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "back to New York after that to meet with"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "Abramson again. And Abramson decides, we"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "need to commit you to like a psychiatric"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "hospital because, you know, something's"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "wrong. He agrees to it, but the"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "psychiatric hospital doesn't have any"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "spare beds. And so, they need to wait an"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "extra day before they can go down to it."}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Okay. So, they spend the next day in New"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "York. They're kind of wasting time. And"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "then that night, they go to the Statler"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "Hotel in New York. Him and Robert"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "Lashbrook, they spend uh they're going"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "to, you know, stay in the room together."}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "And at 2:30 in the morning, he jumps out"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "the window and he dies. He falls 10"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "floors to the 7th Avenue sidewalk and he"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "dies. So that's the story of Frank"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "Olsen. There are a lot of there are a"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "lot of potential explanations of what"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "was going on. Frank Olsen's son, Eric"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Olsen, thinks that his father was"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "murdered. Yes. He thinks that this this"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "was like a planned thing. The CIA wanted"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "to kill his father potentially because"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "his father had moral qualms about what"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "they were doing. Maybe they were kind of"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "releasing biological agents somewhere"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "had harmed some people. maybe they"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "really had released biological agents on"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "Korea during the Korean War and he was"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "having these pangs of conscience and"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "maybe he was going to go public about it"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "or something like that and so they offed"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "him. Um, so that's what Eric Olson"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "thinks. I'm kind of skeptical of that."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "In fact, I am skeptical of that. I don't"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "think that's what happened. I think I"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "think Frank Olsson did have some kind of"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "psychotic break and I do think he jumped"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "out the window. Um, could you see why"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "they think he was killed though? Oh,"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "yeah. Cuz he had access before any break"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "like this. He had access to some of the"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "There's certainly motive. There's"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "certainly motive there. Yeah, it's it's"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "just a question of did anyone act on"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "that motive? I don't think they did. Um,"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "one of the one of the explanations that"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "people will often give about how another"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "supposed piece of proof that the CIA was"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "involved in this and they killed Frank"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "Olsson is that in 1953, the year that"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "this happened, there is a primer on"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "assassinations that is is uh created by"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "the CIA talking about what are the best"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "ways to kill someone. And one of the"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "best ways it says is to push them out"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "from a a tall place so they can fall."}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "And then and then he and then he gets"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "and that's what happened. Yeah. So"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "that's one of the links people will use."}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "Oh well obviously they knew this was a"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "method of assassination that could"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "potentially not lead to anyone being"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "found out about it. So obviously this"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "must have been what happened to him. It"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "doesn't mean guilt. That's a hell of a"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "coincidence."}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "But actually in their defense on this"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "one that's not exactly a"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "generational idea right there. I feel"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "like that's been that's been done"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "throughout human history. You know,"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "people fall, can't fly. For me, too, you"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "know, one of the things is they didn't"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "know that Frank Olsson was going to want"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "to go back to New York when they took"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "him to Maryland, you know. So, okay. So,"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "they're going to have to set all this up"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "and then one day that he decides, \"No,"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "actually, I want to go back to New"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "York.\" And or he didn't. Yeah. Or"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "the case and they say, \"Yeah, he wanted"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "to go back.\" What do you know? Oh, then"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "he died. That could be the case. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "Yeah. We We tried to bring him back to"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "Maryland. He didn't want to do it. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "Well, I'm I'm skeptical of that. But"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "another another thing too with Frank"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "Olsen, um maybe it not something that"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "makes me think that it wasn't an"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "assassination, a murder, is that a lot"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "of the other people who were"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "surreptitiously dosed with LSD under"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "these same projects reacted in the same"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "way as Frank Olsson did. You know, so I"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "mentioned that woman, Clarice Stein, the"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "she had the exact same kind of psychotic"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "break. Um, there are a few other people"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "I I don't But was she threatening and I"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "don't know if he was either. I can't"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "remember the case. Was Was that woman"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "Clarice"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "saying anything like what we're doing is"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "wrong and people need to find out about"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "this or something like that? Cuz I think"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "if I remember, it's been a while. I"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "think that was the implication he was"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "saying. Frank was saying stuff like that"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "to people behind the scenes like what"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "we're doing is wrong. So they're worried"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "like you said that he might say"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "something. But the other people maybe"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "they weren't saying that. Yeah. She was"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "not cuz she didn't know about any of"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "this. She was just some random woman who"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "happened to be at the wrong party and"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "got dosed with this stuff. So that would"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "be different. What I think of is well I"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "don't even know if Frank Olson was"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "actually saying that, you know. So his"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "son his son says that you know it was he"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "was having these pangs of conscience but"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "was he? I don't know if he was like I"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "don't How old was his son again when he"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "died? Uh he was maybe 9 years old"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "something like that. He's very young."}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "Yeah. So he wouldn't he wouldn't have"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "like heavy conversations with his dad at"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "that time. No at least. Yeah. Not pro"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "I'm assuming not about his work. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "Not something he would understand or be"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "able to process for sure. Yeah. That's"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "interesting because also like Sai Hersh"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "who's at the middle of that story. He"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "tracked that for decades. But you know"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "Sai is one of those guys. He builds some"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "cases that are amazing and you know"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "works on them for years and multissource"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "to to the gills and everything and it's"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "like oh maybe there might be something"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "here. And then there's other cases"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "where, you know, he'll write five, six"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "thousand words on one source, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "anonymous. And it's and it's not to say"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "it's wrong. It's just like, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "every time he's reporting on something,"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "it's something insane."}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "It's like, are all these true? Probably"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "not, but some of them are. And it's it's"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "kind of your best guess. But in his"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "defense, like that's whenever you're"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "reporting on these types of places,"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "these agencies, that is how it is."}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "You're going to get somewhere. it's like"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "this might actually be happening and"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "others like yeah maybe there's another"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "explanation here. And there's so many"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "you know I mean I mentioned there are"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "149 sub projects. I have one chapter"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "that's called sub projects where I try"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "to briefly explain some of the ones that"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "I can't go into a lot of detail because"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "I can't have a chapter on every single"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "one. That's why you're on the podcast."}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "Let's go into some detail. I wanted to"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "bring up one of the more absurd ones. um"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "sad ones it it involves animal"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "experimentation but they were planning"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "on putting oh not planning they did put"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "electrodes into the brains of animals"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "and stimulating in them in such a way"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "that they could control their movements."}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "So this was done with dogs and rats and"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "uh several other kinds of animals. But"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "um sub project 94, but you would implant"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "this electrode and you would stimulate"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "the like pleasure center of the brain is"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "what it says in the in the kind of"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "description of the sub project. And you"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "actually I mean it worked. You actually"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "could get a dog like to walk in the"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "pre-esired direction. So if there was"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "you know the ex the researcher who's"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "responsible for this would go to like a"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "a grass field and kind of plot out in"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "his mind like an invisible path that the"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "dog doesn't know. But okay, I want him"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "to do a loop here and then go this way."}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "And so, you know, if the if the dog goes"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "in the correct direction, the desired"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "direction, you would stimulate that part"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "of the brain, the pleasure center, as"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "positive feedback. And so, it would"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "continue. If the dog moves in a"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "different direction, you would stop the"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "stimulation. And so, the dog would"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "continuously search for where the"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "stimulation is. Once it finds it, it"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "would then hone in on the correct path"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "and go forward. So, by doing this"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "repeatedly, you could get it to walk in"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "a pre-desired uh path. You could do this"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "with rats, too. it was done. Um, and"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "some of the crazier documents that I"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "found about MK Ultra involves this sub"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "project where they're trying to explain"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "what is what are they trying to do here?"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "You know, so in these documents they"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "mention that ultimately we want to use"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "this for and this is their quote"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "executive action type operations which"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "is obviously like assassination attempts"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "and they say we want to we want to try"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "to put biological and chemical weapons"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "on these animals and then steer them in"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "the desired direction to get close to a"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "target. And then, you know, that's going"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "to kill them in some way. What animals"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "are wanting to be used? They said bears"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "and yaks are the most desirable animals"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "because they can carry really heavy"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "payloads. So, if we can get a bear, I'm"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "guessing get a bear close to the"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "president. Well, I have no clue this is"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "the thing. Um, not that this is not that"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "this was actually done, but in the"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "documents, they're kind of speculating"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "on what our desired thing is. And at the"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "end of the documents, it says, \"Our"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "ultimate goal is to apply this to"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "humans.\" Basically, we want to see if,"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "you know, we could do this. Not that"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "they ever did, but that was kind of the"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "ultimate goal. This is like the real"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "life manurion candidate. Can we"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "stimulate someone's brain in order to"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "make them move in a desired direction"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "like a marionette? Yeah. So that was one"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "of the crazier sub projects. The idea"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "though at the beginning of MK Ultra like"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "you said was they they had a suspicion"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "that Koreans were controlling mines or"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "something in the war when they were"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "torturing prisoners. And as you put and"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "everyone said this like that turned out"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "not to be true. That said, is it"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "possible that maybe there's some things"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "they figured out in MK Ultra that we"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "don't know about that it like this is a"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "bit of a facade to put up like, \"Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "we tried this thing. It was up."}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "We had to admit about it and yeah, it's"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "ancient history now.\" But, you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "there's another section called MK"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "Ultra++ where, you know, they actually"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "did figure out how to control"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "the mind and have been doing stuff like"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "that. Yeah, there are a couple things to"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "say about that. Mind control is"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "possible, but not in the way that MK"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "Ultra thought it would be. So, I'll"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "touch on that in a second because at the"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "very end of the book, I say, you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "Sydney Gotautle may not have developed"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "methods of mind control, but that"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "doesn't mean they don't exist. And"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "here's kind of how they do. So, let me"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "I'll talk return to that in a second. I"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "was concerned, by the way, when you were"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "saying animals that you were going to"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "say pigeons. Oh, pigeon. Is that like"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "your favorite animal or something? You"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "know, the conspiracy theory pigeons are"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "just drones. So, I'm like, and they walk"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "right up next to you. You know, I'm a"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "big pigeon defender, by the way. So I"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "don't think that but my buddy Mark the"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "birds aren't real kind of D. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "He's always he's always like they're not"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "real and pigeons are very dumb and I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "like no they're actually very smart you"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "know. So you never know. But please"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "continue on what you're saying. I don't"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "think it's the case that MK Ultra found"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "methods of mind control in the sense"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "that you could make someone do something"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "you wanted to them them them to do"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "actively. Like if we wanted to make"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "someone assassinate someone else. They"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "didn't find ways to make someone do that"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "like against their will or something."}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "What they did do is find ways to"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "discredit someone or make them go insane"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "or seeming like they went insane by"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "slipping them LSD. One of the one of the"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "plots that Sydney Gotautle is involved"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "in besides all the assassination plots"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "on Fidel Castro, there's one plot to why"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "don't we gift him cigars that have been"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "laced with LSD right before he's going"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "to give a big speech or something. So,"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "he's going to, you know, suck on these"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "cigars. He's going to get hit with this"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "stuff. He's going to go on an acid trip"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "and he's going to start spewing all this"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "nonsense and people are going to lose"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "their faith in him because all this"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "guy's crazy. Like, how can we trust him?"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "he's going insane. So, you can make"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "someone appear insane like that. You can"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "manipulate them in that way, but not in"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "a controlled way to make them do"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "something. At least not with the methods"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "that Sydney got is involved in,"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "especially drugs and hypnosis. That"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "being said, there were some useful"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "things like active positive things uh"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "not positive in the sense that good,"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "positive in the sense that you could"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "actively do it that came from MK Ultra."}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "One of them had to do with a sub project"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "that's conducted by this psychologist"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "named Martin Or, and it involved"}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "interrogations. How do we get someone to"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "reveal the truth in an interrogation?"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "The goal of MK Ultra was to develop a"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "truth drug, but it turns out there's not"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "really a truth drug that all of a sudden"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "you're going to take it and now I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "going to spill all my secrets. You can"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "lower someone's inhibitions, you know,"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "and you can I mean, people have known"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "for thousands of years you can do that"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "with wine, just some alcohol and you're"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "going to lower your inhibitions and they"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "might say something they otherwise might"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "not have. Thank you guys for checking"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "out this clip. If you haven't already"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe and hit the"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "like button on this video. It is a huge,"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "huge help. And if you'd like to check"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "out this clip's full podcast episode,"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "that link is in the description below or"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "right here. And finally, you can follow"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "me on Instagram and X by using the links"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "in my description below."}]

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Now, in your world, does"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "that exist or is spaceime not real?"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "Well,"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "we can use it up to some extent if we"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "really have to."}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "Well, we're going to get into it today"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "cuz you're like one of those like my"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "brain explodes. No, you're when I hear"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "you talk. It's going to be fun. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "You're like so you're so happy and fun"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "about physics, too. 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I think"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "it was shortly after that and I was just"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "like well I don't understand half of"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "this so we're going to have to do this"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "in this studio and bring it down to"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "earth for me. No pun intended. Yeah. So"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "he's a bit more technical. He's very"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "technical. Kurt's smart. Yeah, he's"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "great. He's amazing. So, I did I did"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "another podcast with him two weeks ago."}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "Oh, you did? Yeah. I didn't see that. Uh"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "it just came out. Okay. All right. I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "going have to check that out, too. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "Curt's extremely extremely well read on"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "all this stuff. He's uh he's uh up"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "there."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "That's that's a very good endorsement,"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "by the way. He should play that like for"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "his uh for his real like Claudia Durham."}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "He's up there."}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "But your work, your life's work has been"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "centered on gravity and the nature of"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "what it is. Y and a lot of us out there,"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "you know, know the story about Isaac"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "Newton and the apple fallen and that's"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "gravity. But we just think about it and"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "and take it for granted as the thing"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "that keeps us on the ground. Yep. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. So that's right. You're"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "looking at it beyond that though, right?"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. 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It's is"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "spaceime and so gravity is spacetime. Um"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "so it is the whole universe. Gravity is"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "really the fundamental law that governs"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "anything that you that you want to think"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "about. 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It is you"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "can imagine. It's what keeps us alive,"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "too, cuz we're not falling actually into"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "the sun. That That's why that's a good"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "thing."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "When did you first get interested in"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "gravity? Like, were you just a little"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "girl? Like I wonder why I'm standing on"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "the ground right here and not floating."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "Well, I wasn't really to bother about"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "the Earth itself. I was more thinking"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "about the stars and and the planets. 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We all try to see if it's"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "going to keep on falling down, keep on"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "breaking down when he reach the ground."}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "Um and I think so we all do that and and"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "just continue doing it rather than doing"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "anything else. We all do it. But what"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "makes you question how it works?"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "I think it's playing with it. I think I"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "think we in fact we we all sort of"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "question it and and after a while we"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "take it for granted was I guess I never"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "I never stopped taking it for granted. I"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "never I never ever stopped questioning"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "it. Um but I think we all sort of"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "question it to start with. We all take"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "objects and then make them fall down and"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "say, \"Oh, it's working. Let me try if it"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "works again.\" And um and it's sort of"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "surprising that it works so well all the"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "time."}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "How young were you when you started"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "actually looking into the science behind"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "it rather than just experimenting and"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "being curious? Um probably around 10,"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "12, something like that. 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Then then if you want to"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "actually um interrogate things and make"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "predictions then you start needing to"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "have formula and need to be more precise"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "and that I don't think I ever did before"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "I was uh a teenager when like everybody"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "else I was going to say that gets very"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "complicated too. I I don't think like at"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "10 you got to be special at 10 to be"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "doing something like that. But it's it's"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "interesting because when you think about"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "everything that we look at in the"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "universe, it's all at its core I mean"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "this is overgeneralizing but at its core"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "so much of it is theoretical. It's like"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "it's not like we were there at the big"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "bang. It's not like we know precisely"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "other than what we can estimate how old"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "the universe is or how big it is, how"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "many galaxies there are or anything. And"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "the beauty of science is that the most"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "brilliant people in the world right now,"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "which you're among"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "years from now, much of your work will"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "technically be proven like either wrong"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "or it was on the right direction and now"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "we've expanded upon it. But you're a"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "part of that neverending search for"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "truth such that you can, you know, you"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "look at legends like Einstein where his"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "work things have been proven wrong, but"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "he set the pathway for so many people"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "after him to improve. That's right."}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "That's what it's exactly as you say."}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "It's really a pathway and it's a"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "journey. It is being part of the"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "journey. And maybe your contribution"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "isn't quite right. May it's certainly"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "not the end of the story, but we we're"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "trying to get somewhere and exactly"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "where we going. We don't know. We don't"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "know. But we we're trying to understand."}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "Yeah. And it of course it's all"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "theoretical. A lot of I haven't been in"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "space. I don't know that. Uh I haven't"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "gone and measure things in outer space"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "for instance. But we can have theories."}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "It's theoretical but we can make"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "predictions and from those predictions"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "we can say this is what should happen."}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "Now I'm going to start looking here and"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "I'm going to make this very very precise"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "observation and this is what I should be"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "able to see and that's why we see and"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "people have detected gravitational"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "waves. Can you imagine? People have"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "said, \"Okay, if this is right, what it"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "means is going to have I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "build some um vacuum chambers"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "underground. Um and then I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "have some mirrors which are located 4"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "kilometers apart. Um and we're going to"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "have two set up like this. One on one"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "side of the US, the other one on the"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "other side of the US. And we're just"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "going to wait there. And every so often"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "they're going to shake around just a"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "tiny little bit. And that's going to be"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "a signal of our gravitational waves"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "which is coming from the merger of two"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "black holes located millions of light"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "years away from here and please can I"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "have some funding from that and and"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "people build that and that's what they"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "observe. You know that when"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "gravitational waves pass through the"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "earth, they are stretching space between"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "those mirrors in those cavities which"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "are 4 km apart by a distance which is"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "smaller than the size of a proton and"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "that's something we measure. This this"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "is something we could predict and we"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "have measure and the way the signal"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "behaves is exactly as one would have"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "anticipated. So it's so all theoretical."}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "has been theoretical for 100 years and"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "then you actually observe it exactly the"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "way you predicted it. It's cool when you"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "can actually test it. It's amazing. It's"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "amazing. But there's also and and I"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "don't want to this conversation gets"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "weird sometimes because it's almost like"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "you discourage"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "thinking about things and how things"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "could be. But it gets difficult when"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "Thank you guys for checking out this"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "clip. If you haven't already subscribed,"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "please subscribe and hit the like button"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "on this video. It is a huge, huge help."}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "And if you'd like to check out this"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "clip's full podcast episode, that link"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "is in the description below or right"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "here. And finally, you can follow me on"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "Instagram and X by using the links in my"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "description below."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "probably 90% of what's leaked is"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "politically motivated. It's a it's a"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "it's an artificial leak. It's somebody"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "speaking off the books who wants to"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "drive some sort of political agenda. And"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "then only 10% of what you see is truly"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "just a a a bystander who's trying to do"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "the right thing, a whistleblower who"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "just wants the information to be known,"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "right? The majority of it is some"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "diplomat or some politician or some"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "military officer or some person of of"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "influence who's"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "speaking off the record because they"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "want the information to be released"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "because it is either intentional"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "disinformation or it's information that"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "drives an agenda that's in benefit of"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "that politician."}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "That's crazy. Like it's so hard now to"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "to tell what to believe. People don't"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "realize it. Yeah. The the thing is"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "imagine how like even we were talking"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "earlier about your phone. Your WhatsApp"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "is it's end to end encrypted. Nobody is"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "going to find out what you're talking"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "about on WhatsApp unless they"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "specifically target your phone or they"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "target the phone of the person you're"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "talking to. That's the only way that"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "they can get the encryption key for your"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "message. So the only way that that"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "information that you're talking about"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "gets shared is if you or the other"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "person chooses to share the information."}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "Now, sometimes there's a mistake like"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "what happened in the United States when"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "uh when Hexath sent a message to the"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "journalist, right? So, there's mistakes"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "that happen and that's part of the 10%"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "where hey, there's a leak and and nobody"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "has an agenda. It's just a leak. But the"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "majority of the time, you're choosing"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "which message from all of the messages"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "that you had with your with your"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "partner. which message am I going to"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "share and which message are they going"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "to share and who are we going to share"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "it with and will we say it's from us or"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "will we say that it's an anonymous"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "source it's all an information and uh"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "warfare power play yeah the information"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "warfare that we face is mindboggling"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "it's also mindboggling and and just"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "pretty scary is how easily we're"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "influenced just remember a week ago"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "there was a all the news was talking"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "about was about Trump and Elon having"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "that beef now remember I I literally"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "went to interview President President"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "Mle because they were talking about the"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "bill spending bill and Elon's concern"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "was about America's debt. So I"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "interviewed President Mle about that. As"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "we're editing the interview, I landed"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "back here in Dubai and then the war"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "breaks down. I'm like, \"Wow, everyone"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "forgot about that.\" And you mentioned"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "hex and the leak that was everything was"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "talking about and that was the most"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "important thing in the news. People have"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "just moved on and there's I think"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "something between the Trump Elon thing"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "and oh there's a protest in LA that no"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "one's talking about anymore, the ICE"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "protest. Um, which goes to the next"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "question, something you talk a lot about"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "is how effective and how common is"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "information warfare? Like what are we"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "what are we being uh exposed to on a"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "daily basis that counts as information"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "warfare? So when to understand"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "information warfare, you have to kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "think like the think like the national"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "security apparatus."}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "You've got all these different types of"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "warfare. There's intelligence warfare."}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "There's there's information warfare."}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "There's cyber warfare. There's"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "traditional warfare. And then put them"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "all on a scale of how much they cost."}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "Like actual dollars and cents."}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "Traditional conflict is very, very"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "expensive. Intelligence conflict is not"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "as expensive, but still very expensive."}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "Cyber conflict is cheaper than either of"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "the other two. Information warfare is"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "the cheapest type of warfare. It means"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "that with with any budget you can"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "maximize your impact with information"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "warfare. And then information warfare is"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "also beneficial because you don't have"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "to direct 100% of it. All you have to do"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "is direct a small amount and then that"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "small amount like like a pebble in a"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "pond. and it has a ripple effect and you"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "drop one story and everybody else picks"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "up the story and then they add their own"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "slant and their own bias and uh there's"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "a game we play in elementary school here"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "in the United States called telephone"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "where five people sit in a row, five"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "children sit in a row, one child tells"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "one child next to him a story or a word"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "and then you watch as the story changes"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "before it gets to the fifth person."}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "That's all the benefit of information"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "warfare. So in the world that we live"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "in, Mario, I I speak one language"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "fluently. I speak English fluently."}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Everything else that I speak has mixed"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "fluency. How many languages do you speak"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "fluently? Two. English and French."}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "English and French. So that means you"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "and I are highly susceptible to whatever"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "media comes out in our native languages."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "But we don't even know what the media is"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "in Arabic or Portuguese or Spanish or"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "Chinese. So there can literally be the"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "same story presented in completely"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "different formats but in different"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "languages. So the information warfare"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "landscape that you and I understand is"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "only the information warfare landscape"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "of our native languages. There's more"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "information being spread in every other"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "language across the land. And the the"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "people originating those messages are"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "the people who understand that they're"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "only going to be interpreted by people"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "who speak that native language. So"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "anytime a a story comes out in English,"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "that story is cultivated only for native"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "English speakers, not anybody else. And"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "anytime a story comes out in Mandarin,"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "it's cultivated only for native Mandarin"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "speakers, not anybody else. So, one of"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "the big benefits of AI that I'm looking"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "forward to is AI is going to be able to"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "immediately translate all the"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "information from all the different"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "languages and isolate it into your"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "native language. So, that has pros and"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "cons in the information landscape, but"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "it is something that I'm looking forward"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "to because there's less opportunity now"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "for me to be forced to only listen to"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "English-speaking media. Yeah, I think"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "that kind of goes um goes into how USAD"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "and other NOS's were able to have so"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "much influence around the world is that"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "they did not know have like one major"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "outlet that le that they leverage to be"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "able to influence the the the the"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "thinking across different world"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "different um different countries but"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "they invested in local journalists or"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "local media outlets. they would just be"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "donating money to all these or investing"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "money or or paying all these different"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "journalists. Having a program that"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "allows them to infiltrate that country"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "by having journalists or media outlets"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "on the ground in Ukraine is the most"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "obvious example has been many others"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "that were reported in the leaks um to"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "disseminate information based on a"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "certain narrative which goes to your"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "point that each language has their own"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "their own information warfare going on."}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "Um, which is crazy. Like I just imagine"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "massive offices in the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "officer, the CIA for example, that has"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "to disseminate all that information, all"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "these different languages."}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "Well, it's not necessarily I you'd be"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "surprised. It's not a large office"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "because in in information warfare,"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "you've got two terms that you have to"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "keep in mind. You have messaging and"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "narrative. Um, I've been talking about"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "messaging, but when you were responding"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "to my comment, you talked about"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "narrative. They're not the same thing,"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "right? Messaging has to do with what is"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "the what is the statement or the story"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "that you're making that has an emotional"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "appeal to it. It has to have an"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "emotional appeal, right? Children are"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "dying in Gaza. Um mothers are watching"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "their sons and husbands get killed in"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "Ukraine. Like these are emotional"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "things. So you send out an emotional"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "message when you're creating an"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "information warfare piece. But then what"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "happens is everybody else who hears that"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "piece picks it up. They have an"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "emotional reaction to it and then they"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "create a logical story out of it. They"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "create a narrative and then that"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "narrative spreads. When you control the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "messaging, it's very hard to control the"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "narrative. So what that means is"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "information warfare is very inexpensive"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "because you only need a few people to"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "create messages and then those messages"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "spread and the narratives go into"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "whatever direction they're going to go"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "into. Which is why you have some"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "narratives that say that are pro Gaza"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "and so some narratives that are pro"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "Palestine and some narratives that are"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "uh anti-Israel and some narratives that"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "say that if you support Palestine and"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "you support Hamas like the narratives"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "are hard to control. Yeah, that's been"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "very fascinating and this is where is is"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "that part of information warfare. So"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "it's been two points that have been"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "really fascinating to me is like anyone"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "that supports Gaza immediately they put"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "him in the bus and they support Hamas"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "but they're completely different things."}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "And then the same thing with Israel like"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "everyone that's critical of Israel as a"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "country um they're attacking Jews or"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "they're anti-semite which is also"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "fascinating is that are they and I know"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "you've talked about this as well which"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "is why I'm bringing it up is that part"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "of the information warfare and if it"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "isn't it's been extremely successful"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "because I've never seen a country where"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "the the country like Iran um no one has"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "mixed Iran with Shiads Iran is Iran"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "Shiats are Shiats but with Israel"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "everyone's not everyone but people are"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "lot you know being criticized whenever"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "they criticize Israel that okay why"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "you're attacking Jews and I've seen this"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "I won't mention the name a very"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "high-profile interviewer that I heavily"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "respect was interviewing a Palestinian"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "so they're pretty critical of Israel to"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "be respectful of them they've been in"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "the middle but they were also"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "interviewing a Palestinian official and"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "when the official was criticizing Israel"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "they're like so you must hate Jews he's"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "like no no no I love Jews I don't mind"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "Jews but I just think Israel's strategy"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "here against Gaza has just been very"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "brutal and we should be criticizing it"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "blah blah blah he's like yeah but most"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "of Israelis are Jews so if you're"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "criticizing Israel, you must you're"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "obviously criticizing Jews. What"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "percentage of Israelis are Jews? So,"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "it's like he couldn't see and someone's"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "very smart. It's like he couldn't see"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "that line between them. Is that part of"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "information warfare or is it just humans"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "being humans? It it's both. Information"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "warfare is so effective because humans"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "are predictable because humans will be"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "humans. So, I already know that if I"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "talk about children to a parent, that"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "person will respond differently to my"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "message than if I speak about children"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "to somebody who's not a parent. So I can"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "make one message that I already know is"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "going to have a different level of"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "response in one community than in a"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "different community, but it will make an"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "impact in both communities with one"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "message. So that's what's so powerful"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "about it. The there's a there's another"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "concept in information warfare called"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "the signal and the noise. The signal and"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "the noise. The noise is all of is all"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "the different opinions, all the"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "different positions, all the different"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "chatter that come about secondary to the"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "message that's been transmitted. The"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "signal is the message that's been"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "transmitted. So it's very difficult for"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "for um FBI, Shinbet, for counter spies,"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "for people who are trying to prevent"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "information warfare. It's very difficult"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "for them to isolate the signal because"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "there's so much noise. You saw this"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "during the elections in 2020, the"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "elections in 2016 here in the United"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "States. You saw the FBI and NSA and uh"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "and the counter intelligence um center"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "come out and say, \"Hey, foreign"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "countries are going to try to influence"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "our election and they're going to do it"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "on social media. So, everybody beware.\""}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "That's all they could do because it was"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "so hard for them to isolate which"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "account was a real person, which account"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "was a bot, which account was actually a"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "feeder for for uh repeating or"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "engagement of another fake account just"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "to get traction. So, it's very difficult"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "to reverse engineer information warfare"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "without the the benefit of AI. And one"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "of the things that AI will most likely"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "be heavily involved in in the future is"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "trying to find the signal in the noise,"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "but also able to generate a lot of noise"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "as well. Generate more signals and more"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "noise. Exactly. Right. And so so right"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "now it's humans trying to spot which"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "humans are trying to create some noise."}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "In the future, it's going to be AI. So"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "agents kind of spotting other agents"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "that are creating noise. It's a"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "fascinating world. And it's it's just"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "fascinating to see how how the warfare"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "is just changing. The drones are a great"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "example of that. what we saw in Russia"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "and what we saw in Iran. Um just I want"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "to kind of final few points on the Iran"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "war which is obviously ongoing right now"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "and that's the risk of a of um radiation"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "leak. We talked about it earlier off"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "camera and uh the risk and you mentioned"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "it briefly of Iran having a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "weapon or um someone I interviewed said"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "there's a risk and I and you for me I I"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "still struggle to believe that to be a"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "genuine risk of Israel using a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "weapon which I think is in my mind is"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "completely off the table. But I'd love"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "to get your thoughts on these three"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "points. So a radiation leak and the"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "risks of that and someone lives in"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "Dubai, which is close by to Iran. It's a"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "concern. Number two is um a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "attack by Iran and they might have a"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "nuclear weapon through a briefcase"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "something or um what do you call it? A"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "dirty bomb for example. And the third"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "one is a potential nuclear attack by"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "Israel."}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "So I'm in my experience in the US"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "military nuclear service as well as the"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "US CIA. In my experience, nobody wants"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "to use a nuclear weapon. Nobody wants to"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "use a nuclear weapon because it's so"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "devastating in so many ways. It's"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "economically devastating. It it destroys"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "life. It destroys infrastructure. It"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "destroys land. And then it has secondary"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "impact on neighboring countries. It has"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "secondary impact on non-nuclear targets"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "with a change in the wind. Right? So,"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "the traditional large-scale nuclear"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "weapon, nobody wants to see those be"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "used. Everybody wants to use them as a"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "deterrent. A deterrent means, hey, I"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "have a nuke, so don't mess with me. I"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "have a nuke, so obey my boundaries,"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "right? Obey my statements."}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "That said, we have watched as the threat"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "of nuclear deterrence has become less"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "impactful over time, right? Ukraine"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "invaded into Russia. No nuclear"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "response."}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "Uh Israel has bombed nuclear facilities"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "inside Iran. You've seen you've seen"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "conflict all over the world where there"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "has not been nuclear escalation of the"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "kind that we saw during the Cuban"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "missile crisis. So the question becomes"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "whether or not we're actually getting"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "closer to the use of a nuclear weapon"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "specifically because people want to send"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "a message saying remember nuclear"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "weapons are devastating. So why do I say"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "that? I say that because I think Israel"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "has less of an appetite to use a nuke"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "than Iran. Israel doesn't want to be the"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "country that sends a nuke into Iran."}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "They don't want the world to think that"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "they're not strong enough to handle it"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "conventionally. They don't want to"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "destroy Iranian infrastructure because"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "if they destroy Iranian infrastructure"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "when they commit their regime change"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "that the first thing that regime is"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "going to have to do is clean up a"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "nuclear fallout site. So, so Israel does"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "not have an appetite for using a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "weapon. But Iran understands that it may"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "only have one option left. The only"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "option it has left may be a a small"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "tactical nuclear warhead delivered by a"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "truck into some other country into"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "Israel or into uh a pro-Israeli state."}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "We don't even know. But but Iran"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "understands that if it has a nuclear"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "warhead and a warhead capability is very"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "different than a delivery vehicle"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "capability and a delivery vehicle"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "capability is different than the success"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "of that delivery vehicle going into the"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "actual target. This is what we're"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "watching with North Korea all the time,"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "right? North Korea continues to have"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "these failed delivery vehicles, missiles"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "that fall out of the sky or rockets that"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "go off trajectory or whatever. So, if if"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "Iran doesn't have a warhead"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "or if they haven't developed their own"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "warhead, but they have someone else's"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "warhead, say a Russian warhead that was"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "given to them, we don't know. And what"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "they do with that warhead is going to be"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "critically important because if if Iran"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "uses a nuke, the world is going to wake"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "up to, oh we shouldn't mess with"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "people that have nukes. But if Israel"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "uses a nuke, then the whole world's"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "going to turn on Israel and say, why"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "would you nuke a country that's that's"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "poorer and weaker and you already have"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "military dominance? So, it's a it's a"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "question of how that how it work. Are"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "you worried as well of a radiation leak"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "or"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "I'm less worried about a radiation leak"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "in terms of nuclear weapons because"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "nuclear weapons are solid state. Uh"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "they're a solid state version of uranium"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "or plutonium. So it's not like when a"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "when a mil when a nuclear reactor has a"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "meltdown then you have to worry about a"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "leak. Uh I lived in Abu Dhabi Mario for"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "in 2018"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "2019 and my primary concern in Abu Dhabi"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "was that is that Iran would target Abu"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "Dhabi"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "rather than target Israel because Abu"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "Dhabi is pro-western. Abu Dhabi has a"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "lot of military infrastructure down"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "there um that's Emirati owned and"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "Emirati based and in 2018 2019 there"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "were still tensions some some growing"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "tensions between Iran and UAE. I don't"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "know what those tensions look like today"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "but it would be easier for Iran to"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "smuggle something into Abu Dhabi or the"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "UAE than to smuggle something into uh"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "Israel but it would still send the same"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "message, right? Yeah. because then"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "you've you've pressured the US by"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "striking a US ally impacting the global"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "economy by not but not attacking the US"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "so US does not need to get involved and"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "that changes the whole geopolitical"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "landscape. So that could be just a"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "correct and imagine if if it wasn't IRGC"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "that delivered the weapon, it was Hamas"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "that delivered the weapon or Hezbollah"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "that delivered the weapon. Now Iran can"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "even say it wasn't us to liability."}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "Yeah, exactly. Okay. So thank you. I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "I'm leaving Dubai. I'm going back to my"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "home country in Australia, far away from"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "all this. Um, last question, Andrew, is"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "um, where do you see the world, uh, not"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "the world, where do you see the Middle"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "East and Iran in the next, let's say,"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "12, let's stick to 12 months for now."}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "It's a very difficult thing to predict,"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "right? I think that we will continue to"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "see reduced support for Israel for"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "that's that's almost a guarantee. I"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "don't think that that uh Bahrain or"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "Saudi or Oman uh or UAE, I don't think"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "they're going to verbalize support for"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "Israel anytime soon. I think they're"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "going to continue to have a very vocal"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "stance against Israel. No matter how"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "much success Israel has in Iran, they're"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "going to continue to publicly"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "uh denounce Israeli activity against the"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "Palestinians because like you said, that"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "truly is the the primary humanitarian"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "issue on the table, right? is the"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "potential still undetermined genocide of"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "Palestinians in Gaza at the hand of a"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "nuclear of a of a supreme military"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "power. So whatever happens in Iran is"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "not going to take the the world's"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "attention off of what Israel is doing to"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "the Palestinian people. So I don't see"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "that changing in the next 12 months. I"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "also don't necessarily see Iran"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "collapsing in the next 12 months. I can"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "see uh Iran being uh exposed to"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "continued warfare and continued"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "conflict, but I don't know that we're"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "going to see the Ayatollah disappear in"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "the next 12 months. Even if he's killed,"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "a new Ayatollah, a new theocracy will"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "most likely uh come back. I'm really"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "curious actually, Mario, if in the next"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "three to six months, what we actually"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "see is the world try to defend Iran."}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "That's what I'm the most curious to see"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "because if if public sentiment against"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "Israel stays the way it is, then you"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "would arguably start to see protests"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "around the world for them to stop"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "beating up Iran, right? You would see it"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "in Europe. You could even potentially"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "see it here in the United States. And"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "this whole no kings movement, the no"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "kings movement is primarily focused in"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "the United States on the idea of Donald"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "Trump being a king of the United States,"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "but it's really a movement against"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "authoritarian leaders everywhere. So"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "Netanyahu is showing himself to be an"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "authoritarian leader just like Xiinping"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "and and uh Vladimir Putin. These are"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "individuals who are authoritarian in"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "nature, not individuals who are"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "democratic in nature. So, it'll be very"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "interesting to see what happens as"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "democracy across Europe is kind of"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "shifting and democracy in the United"}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "States is shifting. Could we actually"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "see a world where six months from now"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "public sentiment is pro- Iran?"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "It's like we're having a war of"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "sentiment uh today, global war of"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "sentiment. It's true. Andrew, really"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "appreciate your time to come in under"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "those circumstances and discuss the war."}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "It's a pleasure to meet you and I'm sure"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "we'll speak again. I appreciate your"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "time."}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "Freedom."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "I've actually been been calling this an"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "Israel Iran war for over a year. Um the"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "the fact that Israel's been fighting"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas and"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "even taking inbound missiles directly"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "from inbound rockets directly from Iran"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "shows who is the true aggressor in"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "Israel's eyes. So the fact that they"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "decided to bomb them again in June,"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "actually break sovereign borders and yet"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "again incur into Iran was not a surprise"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "to me. Um, in fact, about four months"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "ago, intelligence analysts worldwide"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "were kind of estimating it was going to"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "be late June, early July when Israel"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "launched an attack specifically against"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "the nuclear infrastructure in Iran."}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "So then why was Iran caught by surprise?"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "Because there's no way they weren't."}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "They all their commanders, their"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "military commanders were hit. Um, all"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "their their nuclear facilities were hit"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "and it took them a long time to respond."}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "I would say it didn't take them that"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "long to respond. If you recall, there"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "were rockets that were being launched"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "back into Israel by the hundreds within"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "just a few hours of the strike. There"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "was a surprise element because nobody"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "knows what day, what time, and what"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "locations will be hit. That's part of"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "what intelligence is supposed to cover."}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "Uh, and Iran's intelligence is is"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "strong, but it's obviously not as strong"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "as Israel, especially considering the"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "fact that Israel's partners in this are"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "the United States and some of the other"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "Western allies. So they didn't know"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "which facilities, they didn't know what"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "day, they didn't know what time, they"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "didn't know which officers might be"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "targeted. So that was Israel's"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "advantage. And Israel understood that"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "the longer they waited, the more they"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "risked losing that advantage of"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "surprise. Yeah. And I think Netanyahu"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "was um there were reports that his son"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "was about to to have a wedding. So I"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "think Iran would have assumed Netanyahu"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "was going to his son's wedding. Also,"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "Trump was uh hinting at negotiations uh"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "for Sunday and there were reports"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "apparently leaks that Trump told Israel"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "not to respond militarily. I think also"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "the reports that Netanyahu was meant to"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "go on holiday or no meant to go on a"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "trip to the US for negotiations. So, you"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "think all those were intentional to"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "mislead Iran? I don't think all of them"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "were intentional. I think that there was"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "a bit of geopolitical"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "um positioning that we saw play out"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "here. scenario. The United States was"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "about to have their 250th anniversary"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "parade, a parade down Washington DC,"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "something that was very high-profile."}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "Trump was very focused on it. Uh, it was"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "supposed to be like this, you know, rah"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "rah rah America anniversary of 250 years"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "of the existence of the army. Um, and"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "that was scheduled for Saturday. So,"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "Trump was very focused in one area, plus"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "he was planning on having negotiations"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "start again on Sunday. So you could see"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "that that Netanyahu's timing showed that"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "he was not necessarily going to cowtow"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "to the west. He was not going to obey"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Donald Trump's direction. He was going"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "to demonstrate his own unilateral power"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "and decision-making power. So I think"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "that played into part of it as well as"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "Netanyahu's own post personal schedule"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "where he wanted to make sure that a"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "message was sent in a time that was"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "convenient for his leadership, not a"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "time that was convenient for the West."}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "Oh wow. So, you think Israel acted"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "without America's u permission? I don't"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "know that they acted without America's"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "permission, but I would say that they"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "didn't have America's full support. I"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "think Israel is playing a very"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "interesting game here that on one hand"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "is is very strategic, but on the other"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "hand is also very risky. They are"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "Netanyahu is cons consistently expanding"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "his conflict area. What used to be a"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "conflict with just Hamas in just Gaza"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "has now turned into a conflict with"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "Hezbollah. He's taken ground in Syria."}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "He's in he's launched multiple air"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "strikes now into Iran. He is he has"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "pushed land troops into Iran. And Israel"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "and Iran are not geographic neighbors."}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "They h they have to go through other"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "territory to get to each other. So"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "you've got this situation where"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "Netanyahu understands he's unpopular at"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "home and he's unpopular abroad. But by"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "taking the fight to Iran, he gets to win"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "back some favor from the West because"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "the United States likes the idea of a"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "weak Iran. Saudi Arabia and UAE like the"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "idea of a weak Iran. So you've got this"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "situation where Israel can kind of win"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "back favor by doing what it already"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "wants to do."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "Did you misspeak when you said Israel"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "sent personnel into Iran? Do you mean"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "the um MSAD commanders that the the the"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "rumors that were within Iran? So you"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "think Israel has I'd love to ask my next"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "question. He's like, \"How did Israel do"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "this? How did Israel get or there's"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "reports of a of a drone factory, not"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "only drone trucks, but drone factory"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "within Iran?\" Not sure if that's"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "accurate or that's way too farfetched."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "But of course the trucks and just a"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "couple hours ago, Iran says they"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "intercepted another drone truck, Israeli"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "drone truck. Just take us down that"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "rabbit hole of how these things work,"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "how long it takes to plan them, and how"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "realistic are they? It seems like a Bond"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "movie right now. Yeah. Well, I mean,"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "that's one of the things that makes MSAD"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "so unique among intelligence services"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "worldwide is they really are like a Bond"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "movie. The reason MSAD is so dangerous"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "is because they they plan operations"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "many many years in advance and they put"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "them on a shelf just in case they ever"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "need to execute them. And MSAD has"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "what's known in our in the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "world as a high-risk tolerance. A"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "high-risisk tolerance means it will take"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "operations. It will take actions that"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "other countries would never dream to"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "take because the risk is too high. the"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "risk of blowback, the risk of discovery,"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "the risk of death, the risk of capture."}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "MSAD takes risks that nobody else takes."}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "And as a result of that, they get this"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "reputation of being like spies in the"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "movies. So to answer your question,"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Mario, about how this takes place, I"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "mean, the short answer is MSAD has been"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "targeting Iran for decades. Ever since"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "ever since Israel said I'm sorry, ever"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "since Iran made it common knowledge that"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "its goal is to eradicate Israel, Israel"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "started making plans to eradicate Iran."}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "So they have all these plans on a shelf."}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "They just have to choose which plan"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "they're going to pull off the shelf and"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "it's like a recipe which plan they're"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "going to take and then which plan"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "they're going to develop and actually"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "start to create. Do I believe they made"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "a drone factory? No. Do I believe that"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "they had the ability to launch drones"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "from within Iran's borders? Absolutely."}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "How does that compare to what happened"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "in Russia? The Ukrainian operation. So,"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "that's a great point. The the um Russ"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "Are you talking about the Russia"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "invasion of Ukraine or you talking about"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "Ukraine's No, the the Ukraine drone"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "operation a couple of weeks ago having"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "um trucks or drones within Russia and"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "that was a very successful operation. Do"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "you think Mossad copied that operation?"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "Do you think there was intelligence"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "sharing? Obviously, a weaker Iran means"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "a weaker Russia and um how how similar"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "are these two operations? So, I would"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "say that there are many similarities"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "that that are superficial. They're both"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "drone operations. They're both drone"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "operations launched from within uh a"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "sovereign border. Uh they're both"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "modern-day warfare that we've never seen"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "before. So, you got a number of of"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "similarities there. Uh, in one case, I"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "would say MSAD was carrying out a a"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "series of operations that were against"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "high-v value targets that were"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "high-profile intentionally,"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "where what you have with Ukraine, and"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "what you continue to see with Ukraine is"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "that Ukraine will launch drones. They"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "will try to take out assets that are"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "strategically relevant, but they don't"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "necessarily try to go for headline"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "damage like you see with uh with Israel."}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "Yeah, that was crazy. You got the IRGC"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "commander, the chief of staff of the"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "Iranian armed forces, the senior IRGC"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "commander and commander of the Katameya"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "central headquarters. You got the"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "commander of the IRGC airspace force."}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "And the list goes on. Senior adviser,"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "that's a big one. Senior adviser to Iran"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "supreme leader and the chief nuclear"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "negotiator, which is a weird one to"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "target if you know they're looking for"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "some sort of deal with the US because"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "Trump is saying he would like a deal"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "with Iran, but then the chief negotiator"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "has just been assassinated. You've got"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "the deputy chief of staff of"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "intelligence for intelligence affairs or"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "the armed forces general staff. So"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "essenti when I spoke to the IDF"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "spokesperson he said they got they they"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "assassinated 15 out of 20 that was"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "yesterday I think another two got"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "assassinated after my interview with"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "him. So I'd say 17 15 17 out of 20"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "senior commanders and nine out of 11"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "nuclear scientists. The level of success"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "is uh is unheard of. I haven't seen it"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "in any other, you know, is there"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "anything you can compare it to? And what"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "does that say about Israel's"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "capabilities? So, the the only thing you"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "can compare this to is other Israeli"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "strikes. Uh, and Israel has has"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "demonstrated this kind of success all"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "through the 2000s and the 90s where it"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "goes in and it targets individuals of"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "high position or unique position"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "very specifically with very little"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "collateral damage. It's quite shocking"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "how well they execute their their series"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "of attacks. I also want to highlight"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "though, Mario, your word, your verbiage"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "is exactly correct. What Israel is doing"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "is a series of assassinations."}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "In order for something to be an"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "assassination, it has to be politically"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "motivated. Israel was never under attack"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "from Iran. Iran was not aggressing"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "Israel directly. Right? There's a"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "conflict. There's a larger conflict"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "going on through proxy players without a"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "doubt. However, what's known as"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "interstate war uh or between two"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "different countries. This idea of of"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "interstate war was not occurring. There"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "was no invasion of Israel by Iran. There"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "was no invasion of Iran by Israel until"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "this attack. Right? This attack showed"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "both ground forces and air forces and"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "other forces as well that were all being"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "used to to threaten Iran's sovereignty."}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "So that act of war is now something the"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "whole world has to kind of chew on and"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "deal with because it was instigated by"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "Israel. So before we I wanted to ask you"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "more questions on how you think Mossad"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "were able to achieve these attacks. A"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "bit more speculation there, but a piece"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "of news just came in the wire just now"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "about one minute ago. Um, Iran ready to"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "abandon enrichment if it can save face."}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "That's according to the Iran Iran wire."}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "Not sure how legitimate that is, but the"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "team posted on my account um saying a"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "senior Iranian diplomat has told Iran"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "wire what many suspect but no one had"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "confirmed. Thran is prepared to halt"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "Iran uranium enrichment not out of"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "goodwill but to avoid collapse. Iranian"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "diplomat said the following. The real"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "priority of the Supreme Leader survival."}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "We don't want to repeat Saddam Hussein's"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "mistake. Israel strikes have shattered"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "Iran's military command. scorched"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "neighborhoods across Iran and pushed the"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "regime to the brink. The diplomat warned"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "the IGC is losing control and Mran's"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "morale is cracking, but Iran isn't"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "begging it. It wants a deal, not"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "surrender photo op. Um, Mr. Trump may be"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "the only person who can end this quickly"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "and peacefully according to the diplomat"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "speaking to Iran wire. That's a pretty"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "shocking revelation if true. Shocking to"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "an extent. I think we've we've seen the"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "devastation that Israel has caused Iran."}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "I did have analysts yesterday and day"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "before um I've had Scott Ritter and and"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "Colonel McGregor who kind of disagreed"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "with many thinking Iran still has a lot"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "of capabilities and does not need to"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "count out to Israel. But if this report"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "is true and I want to get your thoughts"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "on it um that could change things. So"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "first do you think this report is true"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "Iran is in such a position where it's"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "looking at survival h rather than than"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "than continuing the war and trying to"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "keep its uranium enrichment. And number"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "two, if this is true, do you think"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "Israel would uh would be open to a deal?"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "The question of whether or not Israel is"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "open to a deal, I think, is the is the"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "truly operative question here? Because I"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "think the whole world is wondering what"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "Israel is after. Are they trying to"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "destroy Iran? Are they trying to destroy"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "Iran's nuclear capability? Is Netanyahu"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "just trying to continue to create"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "conflict so that he doesn't have to deal"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "with his own uh uh criminal trial in"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "Israel? We're not exactly sure what"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "Israel's goal is, but I will say this"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "that that uh the the sentiment that was"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "shared in that that that clip, that"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "review that you just gave, that"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "sentiment is most likely true that the"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "theocracy understands that they are in"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "in danger of a potential of losing too"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "much face, even possible internal"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "uprising or internal conflict. So, they"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "want to try to find a way to survive"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "that. I'm surprised that they would make"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "that a public statement because that"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "makes Iran look weak. That makes the"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "theocracy look weak. Uh I can't imagine"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "that's what they want internal Iranians"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "to think. I'm also wondering if that"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "isn't a piece of disinformation"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "where uh where Iran wants a break. They"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "want to regroup so that they can direct"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "their capability more effectively"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "because they were caught by surprise in"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "terms of timing and uh and attack"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "vector. So Iran understands that if they"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "had a few weeks, a few days, a few"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "months, they might be able to set a"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "counterbalance, a counterattack back"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "against is uh Israel, but they they"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "can't seem to get that right now. And"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "they don't know when this is going to"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "end. They don't know when Israel will"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "stop uh increasing their strategic air"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "strikes. They don't know when the when"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "the press of Israeli attack is going to"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "actually slow down."}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "And by the way, if you see me looking"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "down, I was just looking at the news"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "coming in. There's a lot of reports now"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "of strikes happening in Thran. Also,"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "that's another interesting point. I'd"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "love to get your thoughts on it. Um,"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "that's according to Israel today that"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "Israel could be looking at targeting"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "Iran's state TV headquarters. So, that's"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "something you talk a lot about the the"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "information warfare that's happening."}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "So, Iran Iranians still, you know, trust"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "their national TV a lot more than other"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "countries. How effective will such an"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "attack be if they do strike Iran's state"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "TV headquarters?"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "First of all, if they attack the state"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "TVB headquarters, they're attacking a"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "civilian target. And the I don't I'm not"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "convinced that the story here is Iran at"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "all because what's really interesting is"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "how the world's going to respond to"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "Israel. Israel attacking nuclear"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "warheads, everybody can support that."}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "And Israel attacking military targets,"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "everybody can support that. To a certain"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "extent, I think people are looking past"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "the fact that Israel is also attacking"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "and killing civilians through political"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "assassination. like the engineers and"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "the scientists that we've talked about."}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "But if Israel starts to just launch and"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "and ex and blow up infrastructure that"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "has to do with media, that's not a"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "military target. Remember how the how"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "the world responded when Russia started"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "targeting energy facilities in Ukraine"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "and they started calling that a war"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "crime and they started calling that uh a"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "step too far or some sort of you know"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "non-military target. Russia at least"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "could stand on the fact that that"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "Ukraine was using those those uh the"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "energy infrastructure to launch"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "counterattacks against Russia. There's"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "no way that you can say that a TV"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "channel is being used to militarily"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "launch counterattacks against a military"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "target. So the question becomes how will"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "the world react to Israel's choices in"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "this conflict against Iran?"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "Fresh sun."}]

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And"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "then once you have the lines, it's only"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "changed like between 1 and 3% since the"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "start of the wares, right? with with all"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "the technology and all the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "and all the money that's gone into that,"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "Russia isolated and abandoned for you"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "know the better part of the first year"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "still maintained their lines of of"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "attack right plus or minus 3%. So"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "absolutely China's watching that. The"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "only thing I would add to what you're"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "saying, um,"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "I live and my whole company lives to"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "bring spy principles into everyday life,"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "right? Sometimes it's everyday life"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "principles that come into espionage and"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "people don't realize that one of the"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "foundations for what informs national"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "security policy is actually an economic"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "concept called Porter's p five forces."}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "So Porter's five porters five forces,"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "right? Porter's five forces is an"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "economic principle. It has to do with"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "industry, right? And those five forces"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "are the you've heard of them before most"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "likely. There's buying power, selling"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "power, the power of substitution, the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "power of new entrance, and the power of"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "existing competition. Right? These are"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "the five powers that shape business. If"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "you want to make more money or or if you"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "want to start a business or if you want"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "to grow your business, you're always"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "looking for the balance of these five"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "forces. Are you a buyer, a a a seller?"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "Are you a competitor? Are you a new"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "startup? Are you something else? Trump"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "and all of his tariffs have to do with"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "buying power. He knows that America buys"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "the most at the highest premium"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "that any one of the people who sell to"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "us could sell to someone else, but they"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "would sell and they'd get a smaller"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "margin and they would sell to a smaller"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "audience that wouldn't have the same"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "appetite. So he's gambling on that. It's"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "a big gamble like you said, but he"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "understands like, hey, selling to one"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "American is the equivalent of selling to"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "five different countries in South"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "America. So how long before someone"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "says, \"Fuck trying to to market,"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "increase my marketing cost, increase my"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "advertising cost, increase my shipping,"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "to sell to five different countries in"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "Latin America, or I just accept whatever"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "the demands are to lower my tariffs so I"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "can work with the United States.\" That's"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "the game for Trump. It's just like"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "whenever you mark up the prices on your"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "product and then you offer a special"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "rebate, right? It's the same thing that"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "he's doing. That's buyer's power. China"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "is leaning into sellers power and new"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "entrance. They're trying to offer"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "everything at the lowest possible price"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "because they're a very capable seller"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "and they're also trying to to outpace"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "the United States by being a new a new"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "alternative, a substitute or a new"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "alternative for what the United States"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "has. That's why they're trying to get"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "involved in tech. That's why they're"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "trying to get involved in so many other"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "industries from electric electric"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "vehicles to telecommunications etc."}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "They're trying to say, \"Hey, you don't"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "only have to buy from America. World,"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "you can also buy from us, right?\" And"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "there's a lot of the world that's saying"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "yes to that, right? Trade from Mexico"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "down, trade has increased by like 38%"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "with China in the last 12 months. It has"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "decreased by 24% with the United States."}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "Right? So now China is gaining more"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "trade ground in South America and"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Central America. And the United States"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "isn't keeping the same. The America is"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "losing its trade ground. Another thing"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "that the Secretary of Defense is"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "highlighting. Why is China so interested"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "in gaining more trade with South America"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "and Central America? Because that's"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "going to allow more Chinese"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "infrastructure, more Chinese presence."}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "All of that can be flipped and dual"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "purposed into intelligence and military"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "ambition. Because China has something"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "called a state-run enterprise, right?"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "Meaning the state runs the commercial"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "business. So they can put a military"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "antenna on the back of a ice"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "cream truck if they want to because it's"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "it's one and the same where here in the"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "United States we divide military from"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "commercial. All right, we've got one"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "more piece we've got to deal with."}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "Where's Iran hiding in all of this? Um"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "so much what's going on in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "East is proxy. Uh is China connected to"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "Iran in any way? What's that game? So"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Iran is a really interesting animal"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "right now because"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "for about the last 20-ish years it's"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "survived on this idea of an axis of"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "resistance where it is the money maker"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "and it's a huge money maker. People"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "don't realize Iran is the bread basket"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "of the of the Middle East. Everybody"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "buys all their agricultural goods from"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "Iran. It's green. It's lush. It's got"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "active farms and agriculture. So Saudi"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "Arabia, United Arab Emirates, uh,"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "Bahrain, all of our American allies all"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "buy, they're all enemies to Iran, but"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "they have carveouts where they buy from"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "Iran so that they have fresh vegetables"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "and produce, right? So Iran is the bread"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "basket, and then it sends those funds to"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "these um radicalized"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "proxies to carry out Iranian interests"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "abroad like Hamas and Hezbollah. They"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "want do do they just want a caliphate?"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "Like they want an Islamic state as far"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "as the I can see. Absolutely. It's"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "called the Shia crescent. What they want"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "is the expansion of Shia belief and"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "ideology throughout the Middle East with"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "with Iran at the center of it. That's"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "that's the concern that all of the"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "Middle Sunni Muslims have is that Iran"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "wants a Shia caliphate again, right? The"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "larger thing that Iran is looking for is"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "to become a sphere of influence that"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "counters Western influence. and they"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "consider Saudi Arabia to be Western"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "influence. So, it's really a constant"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "game between Iran and Saudi Arabia. When"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "we talk about the United States being"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "involved, that's just that's kind of"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "like lip service. The United States"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "isn't really involved in Iran. Iran"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "doesn't wake up every day and think"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "about the United States. They wake up"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "every day and think about Saudi Arabia,"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "right? That's their primary problem in"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "their region. So, they have all these"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "proxies that they support. And the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "proxies get confusing because the"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "proxies have their own priorities. Hamas"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "wants to counter uh Israel. Hezbollah"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "wants to counter Israel. Houthies want"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "their own independence. So there's all"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "these different kind of split priorities"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "among the proxies that Iran supports."}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "But your original question is where does"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "it fit into all this? Iran's actually on"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "its heels right now. Hezbollah has been"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "mostly dismantled. Hamas has been"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "heavily dismantled. The Houthis somehow"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "are the shining like silver badge right"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "now for Iran. That's not a good sign,"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "right? But Iran's own internal military"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "capability is still largely unknown."}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "They couldn't defend themselves well"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "against the air strike that came from"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "Israel, but we don't know how much they"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "can actually organize and carry out"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "their own IRGC efforts. And most people"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "think the IRGC is very capable, the"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "Iranian Guard, right? So, we don't know"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "what Iran actually can do. And Iran's in"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "a position now where it might see"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "benefit from cooperating with Trump on a"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "nuclear deal because then that takes the"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "heat off of them, allows them to gain"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "more money, more power, more influence"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "in the region, especially as Saudi"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "Arabia is distracted with what's going"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "on in Israel. Right now, Saudi Arabia"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "has to protect Sunni Islam. And the"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "biggest enemy against Sunni Islam right"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "now is not Shia Islam. It's the"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "Netanyahu war going on in Gaza."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "Interesting. So Iran's in this great"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "position where it's been hit hard, but"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "no one's really looking at it right now."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "So it could rebuild, refund those"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "proxies, and never has there been a"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "better time to refund proxies because"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "Netanyahu's war against Gaza is"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "radicalizing could radicalize every"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "Palestinian in existence. Not to mention"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "any Sunni Islam member who's outraged by"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "the fact that that Israel has been"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "allowed to do what it's doing, right? So"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "Iran knows that. So all it needs is"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "money and time and it can rebuild more"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "proxy forces."}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "Do you know of any connection between"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "China and Iran? There are a number of"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "connections. Um China is getting most of"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "its oil from Iran right now. Um Iran"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "gets a lot of its technology from China."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "There's pragmatic relationships between"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "the two. Not to mention that Iran"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "understands that it needs to be aligned"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "with some sort of first world or quickly"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "developing country. And the only two"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "options out there are the United States"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "and China. And you can't really become"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "an ally of the United States unless you"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "follow American ideology. But anybody"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "can be an ally with China as long as"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "you're pragmatically"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "collaborative or cooperative with their"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "economy. So interesting, man. The US,"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "the West is going to have to figure out"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "if they're willing to defend their"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "values or not. Correct. And decide what"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "those values are because even Europe,"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "even NATO can't agree right now."}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "Not not America to Europe and most"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "definitely not within Europe itself."}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "Even like bastion European powers like"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "Germany and Spain and Portugal and"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "France can't get on the same"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "page. Yeah. What do you think is pulling"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "them apart? I think it's this question"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "of how much do we adhere to democracy"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "and how much do we adhere to democracy?"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "That's interesting. I don't think it's"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "purely that. I think that's a big part"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "of it because how how has this come up?"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "The world really does take its dance"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "steps from the United States, right?"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "Right. So when the United States has a"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "healthy democracy, when it's"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "left-leaning, when it's uh focused on"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "social issues, then the rest of the"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "world focuses on the same kind of thing."}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "Right? If you recall, most of the world"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "didn't take action on CO until the"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "United States took action on CO. China"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "did its own thing, but the Middle East"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "and Europe really didn't take action"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "until the United States took action. So"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "the world follows the US lead."}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "when the US when the world started to"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "see that the US was having its own"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "internal conflicts, do we go far right"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "or do we go far left? But we've we've"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "gotten away from this idea of center"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "government. Boy, have we ever. Right. So"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "then Europe had to start asking"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "themselves the same question. Do we go"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "far right or do we go far left?"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "Especially since far-left leaders in"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "Europe were staunchly opposed to"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "farright leaders in the United States."}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "But Europe is heavily dependent on the"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "United States and they're waking up to"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "that fact. Trump has helped Europe to"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "understand, holy we have exported"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "so much of our health and well-being to"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "the United States. There they supply our"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "weapons, they supply our medical"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "technology, they supply our financial"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "institutions, they supply everything."}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "And now if the United States just shut"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "the door on Europe, Europe would be"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "And they know that which is why"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "you saw the previous German chancellor"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "start talking about you know Germany"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "becoming the new center of NATO and"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "decoupling from the United States and"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "investing more in their own internal"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "defense. But you haven't actually seen"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "good or bad for us. I think it'd be good"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "for us really. Here's the problem. When"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "we came out of World War II, we had an"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "attitude which was appropriate at the"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "time that we had to dominate everything."}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "We had to dominate our enemies and our"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "allies because today's allies can can"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "turn into tomorrow's enemies, right?"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "That's what happened basically from"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "World War II to World War I to World War"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "II. Everybody thought Germany was"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "defeated and then all of a sudden it had"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "a war machine going, right? Talk about a"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "war building an engine for an economy."}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "That's exactly what happened in Germany,"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "right? So the United States oppressed"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "everyone economically, educationally,"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "behaviorally. We made slave labor in"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "Japan. And that's why Japan has the work"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "culture it has because coming out of"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "World War II, America basically put"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "every working age Japanese person to"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "like to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "week relentlessly and now they have a"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "culture where they're just they work all"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "the time. That's all Americans American"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "influence coming out of World War II."}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "That strategy isn't working so well"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "anymore. That strategy of oppressing"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "your allies has just made our allies"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "weak. Which means if we want to if we"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "want to support our allies, it really"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "means we have to do it for them. Which"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "is what we're seeing in Ukraine, right?"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "Poland sees that, they understand that."}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "Germany sees that, and they're all"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "thinking, \"Holy if Russia actually"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "does become more aggressive against"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "Europe, how long before the United"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "States can't support all of us?\" Like,"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "there are 10 countries that are NATO"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "countries that that are within striking"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "distance of Russia. M if Russia attacks"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "one, two, three of them at once, it's"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "all coming from one country to one"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "border. But for the United States and"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "for the rest of NATO, there's different"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "contingents and different countries and"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "different bylaws and different weaponry"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "that are all available and there's"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "different priorities. How do you compare"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "Estonia or Lithuania against, you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "Romania or or Poland? Who gets the"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "priorities first? Who's more important?"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "Who's of greater strategic significance?"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "Who can actually handle enough airplanes"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "to defend themselves? Right? It's it's a"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "nuts situation and the old way of"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "business of doing business doesn't work"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "anymore."}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "Not to mention the fact that our"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "adversaries have learned from us and"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "they are doing something similar and"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "hybrid of their own. That's what you see"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "with China. China is now building"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "commercial ports in Central and South"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "America for commercial purposes, but"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "they're also deep enough and industrial"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "enough to take militaryrade hardware if"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "it's ever needed. And who controls that"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "port? not the country where it was"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "built, China, because they have a"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "hundred-year lease on the port, like"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "what they're doing in Panama or what"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "they're doing in Brazil. Right. So, now"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "we have to sit there and wonder, is it"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "really commercial use or is it just"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "waiting to be at a flip of a switch, now"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "it can take military ships? Yeah. Give"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "Trump a report card in the first 120, 30"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "days, whatever it is. I think he's doing"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "more for us than we give him credit for."}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I think he's doing more for"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "America than America gives him credit"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "for. And I think a lot of it's because"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "Americans have been systematically made"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "ignorant of what actually matters. What"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "actually matters is not the words that"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "come out of somebody's mouth. What"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "actually matters is not whether or not"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "they have like they like to look at"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "themselves in the mirror or whether or"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "not they change their mind or whether or"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "not they sound foolish. That's not what"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "actually matters in the person who leads"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "a country. What actually matters is is"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "that person willing and able to leverage"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "the capabilities of your country to give"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "you a better probability of success in"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "the future. I think Donald Trump is"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "doing that. He's testing it with"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "tariffs. He's testing it with with uh"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "his uh executive orders. He's testing it"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "with new relationships. I mean, the fact"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "that the the fact that the dude"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "is meeting with Saudis and and using"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "that meeting as a chance to show"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "Netanyahu, hey, I'm willing to meet with"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "the largest, strongest Sunnis in the"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "region, of which are very upset with"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "you, by the way, Netanyahu. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "after I meet with them, I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "take a trip over to meet with some folks"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "in Iran about their nuclear capability"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "that I might greenlight, even though I"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "know it threatens you. Like, that's"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "that Biden and Obama would have never"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "done. They'd be, \"Oh, we we can't do"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "that, right? We we're too afraid of"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "upsetting the the Jewish diaspora in the"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "United States.\" Trump is like, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "let's see what actually happens. Let's"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "see if this helps America. Well, let's"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "see whether this hurts America.\" But"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "someone's got to at least try it."}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "Give it a grade. 85%."}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "Solid B. All right. But what's cool"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "about that is sometimes your B can turn"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "into an A, but I've been a student and"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "B's can turn into D's, too. Yeah. Ain't"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "that the truth, brother? This has been"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "amazing."}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "[Applause]"}]

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And they also have a factory in"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "Tennessee and in Vietnam and in whoever."}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "You know, there's they're diversified."}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "They have five of them in China. Okay."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "So this I I wouldn't say that there's I"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "don't think it's realistic in any way to"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "think that America's going to invade"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "Mexico. No, there's for the American"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "Trump wanted to for the American"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "military to invade a neighboring"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "country. It's it's not it's not our"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "strategy. It's not how we operate."}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "Especially not when we can just write a"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "big check and have something happen much"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "faster than if we were to mobilize M1"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "Abrams. Do the cartels benefit us at"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "all? Here's the the issue that we're"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "having now with with legitimate United"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "States businesses that are trying to"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "move product to or get product from"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "Mexico because there's some there's some"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "there's some military hardware. There's"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "different computer systems that need to"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "get in and out. The problem they're"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "having is the cartels control those"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "paths, those supply chains. So really,"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "no. You know, not only they moving drugs"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "that are killing our kids and killing a"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "lot of people, but they're also not"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "allowing um without huge, you know, huge"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "markups in order for us legitimate"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "logistics companies to get in there with"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "product or come out with it. That's the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "big issue. Everything from cars, I mean,"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "think Mercedes has a huge plant in"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "Mexico City. So, but they can't move the"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "product without paying an upcharge, and"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "it's a significant upcharge, or it's"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "what I worry about is it's, you know"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "what, just look the other way. What's"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "coming in with these, you know, 50"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "S-Classes. Oh, you know what I mean? So,"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "that's I think that's going a little bit"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "far, stretching a little bit far, but"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "it's possible, you know? So, I think"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "that's kind of the issues that we're"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "having there on the side of crime and on"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "the side of how the cartels control"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "every single thing. And then moving"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "people through is is I mean that's"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "that's an organized scheme what you're"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "seeing at the What was your boy Danny?"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "What was the I forget the guy's name."}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "You had him in was like oh Luis Shapar"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "Louise he what was he saying about the"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "CIA with the cartels? He was saying that"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "the CI he's saying that with"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "unequivocally the CIA works with the"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "cartels. I I don't know one way or the"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "other. It there there was one guy and in"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "particular there was a documentary made"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "about him. He was CIA and DEA, I"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "believe. And uh he was actually murdered"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "by a CIA agent in a cartel drug house,"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "like in one of the cartel owned houses."}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "And this is like this has been verified"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "and there's like documentaries about it"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "and stuff like this. Um and I wish I"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "could remember the name of the guy right"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "now. [\u00a0__\u00a0] Anyways, it was a in the DEA"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "office in Mexico City, I believe. The"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "DEA agent was tortured. Kiki Van Kiki."}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Kiki Rodriguez. I"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "was going to say Vanderweight. That was"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "the That was a [\u00a0__\u00a0] joke. Kiki"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "Rodriguez."}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "Yeah. Kiki was the DEA guy who got"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "murdered and um eventually they captured"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "some of the cartel guys and the cartel"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "guys basically unveiled the who the guy"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "was who actually murdered Kiki and it"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "was a CIA agent who lives in Florida"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "right now. I can't remember his name."}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "You going to have him in? No, I don't"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "think he'll answer my emails. But do you"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "have a name? Did you do it? It's on the"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "internet. If you could find it, if you"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "could find Who's the CE Who is the CEA"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "agent who murdered Kiki Rodriguez? When"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "he gets drowned in Puerto Rico, we'll"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "know [\u00a0__\u00a0] look for his tweets. That's"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "it. It's not intimate. Drowning is not"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "intimate. So, who I mean, why wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "the United States invade Mexico if China"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "has its claws so deep in Mexico and it's"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "hurting the United States so much? like"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "if the if they're so invested in Mexico"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "and working alongside the cartels, why"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "wouldn't we just overtly go in there?"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Because there's two there's two types of"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "wars. One is a profitable war. One is a"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "not profitable war, right? And those two"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "types of war are called interstate war"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "and intrastate war. Interstate war is"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "sovereign nation against sovereign"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "nation. It's extremely expensive. It is"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "not economically sustainable. It's when"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "one country go invades another country."}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "It's what's Russia doing. It's what"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "Russia is doing to Ukraine right now."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "That is not a profitable war for either"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "side. Intrastate war is a civil war. In"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "a civil war, it's extremely profitable"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "for anybody participating in the civil"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "war from outside of the country. Why did"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "we get involved in Syria? Why do we get"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "involved in Yemen? Why do we get"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "involved in Libya? Why are we involved"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "in Ukraine? It's extremely profitable to"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "be the person who's sending humanitarian"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "aid, building influence, soft power,"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "hard power, sending weapons systems, you"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "know, whatever it might be, it's"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "extremely profitably part of an"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "intrastate war. Right? So what when the"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "United States watches what China's doing"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "around the world in third world"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "countries through the belt and road"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "initiative through uh through whatever"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "policies China's uh executing to build"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "infrastructure and everything else"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "that's that is something that that the"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "United States would prefer to continue"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "to combat economically because once they"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "commit troops on the ground you're not"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "only playing the cost in terms of"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "dollars and cents but the cost in terms"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "of lives the cost in terms of public"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "response"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "It's nasty. 9/11, if if anybody alive"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "during 911, America was was hard up and"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "and ready to rock and roll and send"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "boots on the ground for about 5 years."}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "And then after that, the death toll and"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "the lack of results even though it"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "wasn't anywhere close to what it was in"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "Vietnam,"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "it was it turned the appetite of the"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "American people against the Yeah."}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "because they started a bad war we didn't"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "need that like Afghanistan had to"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "listen. What you are spouting right now"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "is what you have seen since 911."}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "The day the day that 911 happened,"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "people wanted blood immediately. Oh, no,"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "no, no. I I No, no. So, just to be"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "clear, and I always say this, absolutely"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "had to go to Afghanistan. Afghanistan"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "was a,000% should have been there"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "October 7th. Yeah. All the way. That was"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "a mission. I'm talking about when they"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "took their eye off the ball and they"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "went to Iraq where he's got WMDs. No, he"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "didn't. Dick Cheney walked in there and"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "said, \"Mr. President, what if there was"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "a 1% chance Saddam had WND? Blew someone"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "up and it was on your ass.\" And he's"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "like, \"God damn it, Dick. We're going"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "in.\" And he wanted to go in to finish"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "his dad's [\u00a0__\u00a0] job. And so then we"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "get caught up in this whole war. And"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "that's where the tide turned. And that's"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "why also then, and this is a separate"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "conversation, but 20 years later, we"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "have the [\u00a0__\u00a0] up with Afghanistan"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "because the resources were pulled out of"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "there. Like I see the difference between"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "the two. And I look at this and I go,"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "how can you not say that Iraq is a"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "product of a profitable war as you say,"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "which I I understand exactly why you're"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "saying that. There's people out there"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "who will just hear that word and"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "immediately go to like"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "military-industrial complex. When"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "they're thinking about Iraq, though,"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "they're right about that. Okay. So, this"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "is this is Kiki. This is Kiki. I can't"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "read that. Can you read that, Julian?"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Kiki Salazar was an American"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "intelligence officer for the United"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "States DEA in February 1985. Camarina"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "Oh, yeah. Kiki Camarina Salazar."}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "Camarina was kidnapped by drug"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "traffickers hired by Mexican politicians"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "in Guadalajara"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "and Whoa. Whoa. Oh, you're zooming in."}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "Oh my gosh. Three leaders of the"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "Guadalajara drug cartel were eventually"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "convicted in Mexico for Camarina's"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "murder. The US investigation into"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "Camaro's murder led to 10 more trials in"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Los Angeles for other Mexican nationals"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "involved in the crime. One of them, I"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "forget his [\u00a0__\u00a0] name, but we got the"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "guy with they caught him in like the"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "hills of Mexico last year. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "he's free again. Is he free again? Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "he was again captured in July of 22."}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Yeah. Carol Cano. And then he was again"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "captured. Okay. So, we got him again."}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Yeah. And he was being they had they did"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "they did like a press uh event with him"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "and he was just kind of like laughing"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "and like mocking everybody like, \"Ha,"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] you. I'll be out of here in 3"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "months.\""}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "Yeah. So, where's the CIA connection?"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "Control F that we can find. Find the CIA"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "guy. You gota you got to Google who who"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "is the CIA officer except in Google"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Chrome. Actually, I think it is still"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "control app in Google. What were we just"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "talking about? I don't remember. I think"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "we were just talking about conspiracies"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "and how hard it is to prove a"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "conspiracy, right? So, essentially"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "essentially uh it would it"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "CIA has an entire division focused on"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "countering narcotics,"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "but we counter narcotics that affect"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "American national security priorities."}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "There's all sorts of narcotics out there"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "that don't have any impact on US"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "national security. If they have some"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "other intelligence value, then it"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "basically goes to a panel of people who"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "decide, according to the Washington Post"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "test, whether or not we should get"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "involved in this other type of"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "operation. Right? Collecting"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "intelligence is not the same thing as"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "stopping criminal activity. Often times,"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "collecting intelligence means means"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "accepting or even enabling criminal"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "activity, right? Two different things."}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "Now, in a in a post 911 world, would we"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "run that by FBI? Yeah, we'd be like,"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "\"Hey, we're thinking about doing"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "something with or against or in"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "conjunction with or that may potentially"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "enable this cartel to operate in a"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "certain way. FBI, do we have your"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "blessing?\" Right? NSA, can we collect"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "and make sure this is going to work?"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "Right? Maybe they even go and they ask"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "the intelligence committee uh at at the"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "house. What about private intelligence?"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "Do they private intelligence is"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "completely different, right?"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "It's totally private intelligence does"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "whatever it takes to make the paycheck"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "at the end of the day. And that's what"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "makes it so useful. It can move faster."}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "It can move more nimly. It can absorb"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "risk without ever needing to have like"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "the president have plausible"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "deniability. It's not plausible. He"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "actually has full-on deniability."}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "Well, this one definitely does. So,"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "yeah. But every but every time I hear"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "anybody out there be like, \"Oh, yeah."}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "Verified like CIA officer did this.\" Um,"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "it's really hard to verify a CIA"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "officer. And there are so many people"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "out there who claim to be CIA when"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "they're not. They're they were uh they"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "were pulled onto a mission that CIA was"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "part of. Maybe they participated in some"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "private intel effort that was that was"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "uh unknowingly or knowingly like funded"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "by some third party that may have been"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "affiliated with CIA. Like people throw"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "that term around a lot. Yeah. People"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "throw it at you all the time. They try"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "to they try to say like, \"Oh, that"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "Bamante guy, not a spy at all.\" Yeah. Or"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "or they Yeah. They This It's amazing. Or"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "that you've got the people throwing that"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "at me and the people throwing that I'm"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "still actively a spy. And I'm on"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "podcasts trying to recruit more spies."}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "That's not recruiting. You're putting a"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "narrative out. You know, if if the truth"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "PR man, the truth is a narrative. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "The tr Oh boy. Now we're playing with"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "the word truth. Oh my god. Depends on."}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "Anyways, I don't I don't want to spend a"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "whole [\u00a0__\u00a0] hour trying to find this"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "guy's name, but there's a documentary"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "about this called The Last Narc. And"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "towards the end of the Last Narc, they"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "actually reveal who the CIA agent was. I"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "think his last name was Rodriguez, and"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "he lives in Miami right now. Okay. And"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "he's retired CIA. Wait, Jose Rodriguez?"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "Yeah. [\u00a0__\u00a0] out of here. Yeah. Jose"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "Rodriguez. You know, Jose, Uncle Jose,"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "he was a director. He was the uh chief"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "of He was the head of the torture."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "That's how he talks. He's like, \"We"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "didn't torture anyone. We just made them"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "feel pain."}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "It's like, okay, torture. All right,"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "cool. Like, every conspiracy theory is"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "just intrinsically tied to the CIA,"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "correct? It is insane. And you did find"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "a source, one source successfully that"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "talked about this and it's Fox News."}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "Yeah. Let's go. Where's the Jerusalem"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "Post? Oh, yeah."}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "Agree with you there, brother."}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "I mean, but I actually like what you say"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "about that a lot and people will give"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "you [\u00a0__\u00a0] for it, but it's a really"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "important point you've made on multiple"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "podcasts where I think he made it on"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "yours originally at first. I could be"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "wrong about that cuz you've been on so"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "many [\u00a0__\u00a0] podcasts now, but thanks to"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "you guys, I see a new podcast every"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "single week. I was telling Julian the"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "other day, it's wild, man. I've got I'm"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "recording two in London next week."}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "Really? London? Oh, yeah. Tally ho."}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "Anyway, but you were you said like with"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "a conspiracy it's like people they start"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "with a level of truth like a kernel of"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "truth and then they carry it all the way"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "and they want it to be true. Correct."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "And I agree completely because all the"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "time, you know, we can joke about guy"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "getting drowned in the Puerto Rican"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "pools or whatever, but all the time I'm"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "constantly trying to say pull things"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "back and be like, well, what's really"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "the evidence for this kind of thing? And"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "people are like, \"Oh, you're a [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "CIA podcast, man. [\u00a0__\u00a0] off.\" I"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "understand where they could be coming"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "from though when when someone like you,"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "like in the CIA or you in the FBI sits"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "there and says, \"Oh, you need to"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "consider that it's just a kernel of"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "truth at the top eventually gets dragged"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "out because that means therefore that"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "yes, there are real conspiracies, but"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "it's a very small percentage of them. So"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "then every time a new conspiracy is"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "faced at the table and you're saying it,"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "could this be true? you can play the oh"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "well this is part of the big percentage"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "where it's not and so every time in the"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "law of like populations large numbers"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "you're essentially getting to deny it by"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "the same way Dick Cheney did the 1%"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "doctrine because it's like don't focus"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "on the fact that it's only 1% focus on"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "the fact that it could be 1%. you're"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "doing the opposite end and saying no no"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "no it's always the 99 you know what I"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "mean so professional professionals in"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "our field we play probabilities right"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "and then sometimes probabilities are"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "high enough that they dictate action"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "sometimes probabilities are low enough"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "that they dictate patience right you're"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "the anatomy of a conspiracy exactly what"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "you're talking about right every"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "conspiracy starts with a fact something"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "happens"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "then immediately following that fact"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "we're faced with something that's not"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "known, right? Whether it's the whe"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "whether it's what happened with FTX or"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "whether it's what happened with this"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "dude in the Bahamas, we're faced with"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "something that's not known. Once you're"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "faced with something that's not known,"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "the natural human tendency, not among"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "dumb asses, but among smart people,"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "right? Conspiracy theorists are for the"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "most part pretty smart people, right?"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "The next natural reaction when you're"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "when you're facing unknown information"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "is skepticism."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "Skepticism. You're asking yourself, why"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "don't I know this? Why doesn't somebody"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "know this? Shouldn't somebody know this?"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "Right? Those are the first three steps"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "in the birth of a conspiracy. And then"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "it's human nature that when you are be"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "when you become skeptical, then you"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "start to write a story in your head that"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "erases the skepticism. You connect the"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "dots on your own with a piece missing in"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "between. There you go. The missing link"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "and then it just starts to cycle. That's"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "perfect. Well explained. And because"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "you're coming up with a logical, sound"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "uh explanation at the end, all the other"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "smart people and all the dumb asses out"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "there, they can connect your story very"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "quickly. So that's how conspiracies"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "boom, take off like wildflower. And the"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "agency is a is a nice missing link for a"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "lot of stories. Well, we can never"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "really know about it, but you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "those guys know exactly what happened."}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't,"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "but it's still it provides that missing"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "link. It provides that bridge for"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "skepticism to to rid yourself of that"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "and write your story."}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "Freedom."}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "So fresh."}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "Freedom."}]

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Whether"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "it's whether it's new weapon systems,"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "old weapon systems, experimental weapon"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "systems, disinformation systems,"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "whatever it is, that is still the"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "predominant description. There's"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "fantastic uh fantastic reporting out"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "there that explains the the tic tac the"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "tic tacs that we're seeing. I mean, very"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "sound solid scientific explanations for"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "how it's shadow from radar. uh how it's"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "the it's the the speeds that are"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "reported are inaccurate compared to the"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "actual speeds that are reported on the"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "actual um airframes themselves that can"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "that help to color with more scientific"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "context what those various UFOs were"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "recorded by the Navy fighter jet pilots"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "which also explains why they would be"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "publicly allowed to be released"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "because they're they're not in fact"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "hyperdangerous weapon systems from"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "foreign governments and they're not in"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "fact suspicious foreign invaders. Right?"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "So yeah, as far as the whole UFO uh"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "conversation goes, I still very much"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "believe we have to lean on terrestrial"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "explanations first. When those are"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "proven to be unreliable, then we can"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "open the door to what's next. But we"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "have to we have to start with what we"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "know. That's what science is. You start"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "with what you know. Mhm. Well, then how"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "do you explain how do you rationalize"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "the the New York Times articles coming"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "out saying that we have to take these"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "seriously as a as a otherworldly threat?"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "I don't know if if the New York Times is"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "coming out saying we have to take them"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "seriously as an otherworldly threat then"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "whoever like literally the word threat"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "they use I'm sure but otherworldly is"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "the thing that I don't necessarily"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "believe. Right. Do we have to take them"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "as a serious threat? Yes. If you have"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "some sort of phenomenon happening in the"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "atmosphere that puts commercial airlines"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "in danger or puts military aircraft in"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "danger, yes, that's a threat that you"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "have to take seriously. But do you have"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "to take it seriously as an otherworldly"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "alien species threat? No. But that and I"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "think the government is doing the right"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "thing answering to the American public"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "and answering to general flight safety"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "and uh air superiority. If if you want"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "to control the skies above a"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "battlefield, you have to understand"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "what's happening in the skies above. Why"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "special operations have special ops"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "meteorologists?"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "Because you've got to be able to control"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "the sky. Y if there are pockets of gas"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "and weird lights and and objects in the"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "sky that could put a pilot at risk or"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "put a drone in danger, we got to"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "understand what it is. Yep. Is there a"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "protocol for if a spaceship lands on the"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "White House lawn? Is there is there is"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "there a protocol? Somebody got paid for"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "that. Had to happen. Someone in Deote."}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "No doubt. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "Sleepy Joe wasn't aware. What would that"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "protocol be? I don't know what it would"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "be, but I was thinking, let me go back"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "to your the last bit of conversation."}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "So, if you think about TWWA 800 now, we"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "interviewed most that up. I love where"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "your head's at. What is What is We"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "interviewed So, TWW800 sometime in '95."}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "I think it was July of of 95. Um,"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "there's a commercial airliner coming out"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "of LaGuardia Airport heading to France"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "packed. It's like a It's a It's a 747"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "packed. Um there's probably"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "300 280 300 passengers on it and it shot"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "well I won't say it shuts down. It it it"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "blows up in midair about 13 miles off of"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "the airport and you know everyone"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "obviously dies and splits in half. This"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "the like the soccer is there students or"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "something? Students. That's right. It"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "was students going over to like some"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "type of summer summer youth week in"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "France. Yeah. So, um, and you worked"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "this case. You were investigating this."}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "So, we put this thing back together over"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "the course of a year and there's clearly"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "a missile shot in the side of it. The"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "explanation that the center gas tanks on"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "the 747 were not locked off. So, they're"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "supposed to be locked off so they can't"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "pass wing to wing. They can only take"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "the fuel that they have in either wing."}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "and the pilot couldn't go ahead and, you"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "know, switch out. So, the explanation"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "was, well, there was a little bit of a"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "seal that was not working and it opened"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "up and the thing blew up in the sky. We"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "I think we interviewed every every"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "certified 747 pilot in in the United"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "States who all said that that's"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "impossible that that could have"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "happened. Take it forward. there was a"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "Navy ship in the area that there was a a"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "rocket or a missile that was seen"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "traveling to the aircraft. Uh a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "flames and then basically the thing"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "dropped right after that."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Let's take the technology that we just"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "talked about. Mhm."}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "this particular person or persons that"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "were commanded that ship swore that they"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "saw enemy aircraft"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "in the air and that's why they made the"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "shot. Now that's gone. You can't find"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "that anywhere. Just like the I hate to"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "say this, but just like some"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "transmissions with a couple of fighter"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "pilots right at as 9/11 was happening"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "who supposedly may have caught up to the"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "Shanksville aircraft. I don't know that"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "to be a fact, but you can't find"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "anything on that anymore, but it was out"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "there. the transmissions and everything."}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "I've heard about that. In fact, those"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "guys interviewed on Night Line, the two"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "pilots. So, Ted Cppel interviewed them."}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "Here comes the comments and then it's"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "gone. Right. So, but take but take that"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "TWW800. Think about what we were just"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "talking about with things in the sky to"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "make it look like as if there's a fleet"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "of fighter jets, you know, rolling"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "across um from from another country."}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "Take the Navy ship in the area. take the"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "witness accounts, eyewitness accounts,"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "including I think PR Salinger was one of"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "the ones that actually reported on it."}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "Who knows, right? I mean, yeah, here we"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "go. Conspiracy theory, right? Yeah, cuz"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "I wonder if that was Let the skepticism"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "begin. The reason I was going to ask"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "about that, right, though? Makes sense,"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "right? It doesn't."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "And then it and then it what does make"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "sense is that they had to stop, you"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "know, going back to like the the TWWA"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "800 though, like what does make sense is"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "that"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "you can't admit that, right? So, so all"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "right, just straight up without going"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "into all the conflicting details with"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "this and everything. It's like you're a"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "Navy ship, you fire off test missiles or"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "you're off the coast of Long Island and"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "if you see enemy aircraft, you're"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "supposed to fire because you get one"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "shot to do it. You end up firing on a"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "commercial airliner."}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "We all know what kind of hearings would"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "happen in DC, the regulation and what"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "you wouldn't be allowed to do anymore."}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "And so from a coste effective"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "perspective, which is a very callous way"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "of putting it, there's no reason to say"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "that the military, the Navy, whatever,"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "wouldn't make an assessment there in"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "coordination with the top levels of"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "government to say, \"Look, uh, win some,"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "lose some. This is an L. Public can't"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "really know about this, and we're going"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "to move the [\u00a0__\u00a0] on.\" And then they shut"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "down your investigation. And again,"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "that's a tough one because if there's no"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "malice with it, which I guess will never"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "know, but I have no reason to believe"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "like why would you shoot down a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "students going to [\u00a0__\u00a0] France? You"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "know what I mean? Like there there's no"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "malice there. Absolutely not. Then the"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "bigger picture of like that's just me"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "thinking out loud about kind of tying"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "together, right? You know, as we as we"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "do so well, you see in the bureau, we we"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "connect dots now together. Have you ever"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "seen the documentary? What was the doc"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "the documentary I told you to watch"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "about 911? Yeah, it was like four hours."}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "It was 911, the new Pearl Harbor. It was"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "a 4-hour documentary. They take they"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "take I'm sure a lot of it is [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "but they go deep on it. Like they they"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "interviewed I think it was like 400"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "Boeing pilots and and Boeing engineers."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "This is just one of the things they had"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "in there that stuck out with me the"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "most. They said that those Boeing jets"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "could not fly at that speed, at that low"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "of an altitude without the wings ripping"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "off. I got a theory on this. What's your"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "theory?"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "Call it the Julian Tory. No, I'm just"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "wondering with you. No, but like looking"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "at the the 911 thing cuz you were there"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "that day. You're another person there"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "that that can speak to this. I find that"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "people who were below the age of at"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "least six or seven, sometimes a little"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "older on that day andor and perhaps more"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "importantly, people who lived starting"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "two states out or call it 150 mi in"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "radius from New York City are"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "increasingly exponentially more likely"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "to assume conspiracies at the highest"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "level on all of that because they did"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "not know people who were there that day"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "in the building, who went down with the"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "building or were on the ground or one of"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "each. And so when you're someone like me"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "or especially someone like you who was a"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "just past that age, old enough to be"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "able to understand what was going on, b"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "new knew people that died in there, c"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "new people on the ground, d new knew"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "people that got out of the building and"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "what they reported. It is very hard to"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "listen to some of the arguments that"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "people try to make about how this was"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "all a [\u00a0__\u00a0] inside job when they take"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "liberties with what actually happened"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "that day and what people reported when"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "they were going through the building and"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "then they also switch around facts. Now,"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "are there things that were there"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "mistakes made? Oh, [\u00a0__\u00a0] yeah. We already"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "talked about it. We know the CIA and FBI"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "had a lot of issues going back and"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "forth. Furthermore, could there have"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "been a couple rogue people in the"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "government that maybe had intelligence"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "and were like, \"Ah, this wouldn't be the"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "worst thing ever.\" Sure. And would the"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "government ever let the public know"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "that? Absolutely [\u00a0__\u00a0] not. And of"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "course, we want to know that, but"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "they're not going to do that. But what"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "people do is they then take it down to"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "George Tennant was literally standing"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "there controlling a missile that looked"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "like a plane cuz it was graphically"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "edited to do that and put it into the"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] Twin Towers and we went over"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "there to kill a million Iraqis. And"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "that's that's where I go, hold on a"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] minute. take a step back. That"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "that's that's not what this was. What"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "people don't want to look at with the"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "conspiracy of like 911 is the very real"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "possibility that a bad thing could"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "happen. bad people in the government"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "might have been like a human being that"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "day. Upset it did. Who then also then"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "took advantage of every [\u00a0__\u00a0] thing"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "that it allowed them to do to be able to"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "take other powers that perhaps liberties"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "that they didn't have the power to take"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "in the past and set all these precedents"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "that get us to this point where you had"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "this world changing event that changed"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "everything, changed our way of life, and"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "has now gotten us to a point in a"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "country where 20 years later, more than"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "20 years later, we're literally more"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "divided than ever. And people are"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "looking for a search for meaning. So"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "they find it in two towers going down"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "that day and a [\u00a0__\u00a0] Pentagon hit. I"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "don't know why on the internet that's a"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "controversial opinion, but apparently it"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "is. And like when I watch a documentary"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "like that, which I do I actually want to"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "watch it again, you know, they can tie"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "together some things that make sense,"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "but then they'll to go back to the"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "conspiracy point, they'll tie nine"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "things together that make no [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "sense. Absolutely none. Absolutely. And"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "then when you have the pro another"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "problem is when you have things"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "declassified like operation northwoods"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "that's not a very good look either."}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. You're right. And there's"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "tons of question. I mean there is tons"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "of qu there's tons of things that were"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "never answered. Tons of things that were"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "hidden like all the tapes that were"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "hidden. You know I guess there was Can"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "you tell people what that was just so"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "they they're aware. Northwoods. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "Operation Northwoods. um was a"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "declassified operation that was planned"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "by I believe Allan Dulles who is the"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "head of the CIA to fly a empty um"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "airliner a passenger airliner over Cuba"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "and shoot it down and then claim that"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "Cuba shot it down to create a false flag"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "and to invade Cuba"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "um that's pretty terrifying when to to"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "when you read through it. Um they didn't"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "like Cuba, man. [\u00a0__\u00a0] Yeah, that was"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "during the whole Kennedy thing, you"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "know. And Kennedy is the one. Kennedy"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "was the one who shot that down, right?"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "Or who ended that. Oh, here we go. We"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "got the [\u00a0__\u00a0] Oh, there we go. 13"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "March 62. You write this, Jim. I was uh"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "it was my first document."}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "So, so just so you know, random admin"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "geek insight. So, if you look at the"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "classification at the top, oh, please"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "zoom back out. Zoom out a little little"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "too much. Secret. There you go. Top"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "secret special handling. No for that."}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "What does that mean? That was very very"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "classified back then. TSSH,"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "right? That top secret is by itself. It"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "means you can only see it if you have a"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "top secret clearance. Special handling"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "is above special compartmented"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "information. It's a subset within"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "special compartmented. So if you have"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "SEI and access to special handling,"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "that's what special handling means. So"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "if there are 10,000 people with with a"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "top secret clearance, there might be a"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "thousand with SEI. There might be a"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "hundred with special handling. M and"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "then the no foreign, it means no"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "foreigner is allowed to see this. Oh"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "wow. And that's specific because it"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "means this cannot be seen by any"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "American allies. No Canadians, no"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "Australians, no New Zealanders, no"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "Brits. So that's what the no foreign"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "means. So this was very very classified"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "if that was the original classification."}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] Yeah. So it's pretty and it's"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "still I mean not many people know about"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "it. Really not many people know about"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "it. There's a small like you said the"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "8020 rule. There's really not many"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "people who pay attention to this [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "Yeah. Can you scroll down? Scroll down."}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "So, you'll see on the lower leftand"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "corner of the report. Might be right"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "here. Stop right there. No. Keep going"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "down. Yeah. I'm looking for Stop there a"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "second. Nope. Go back up. Top secret."}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "How do we get this 693? Who leaked this?"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "I don't know. That's a good question."}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "It's not a leak. If it's unclassif"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "Yeah. NSA archive, too. Now, how do we"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "get all this stuff on on [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "Kennedy's assassination? That was"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "extended. Yeah, that was extended. What?"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "There's a reason. Oh, wait. No, that's"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "What does that say? When they did it 21"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "reviewed by JCS on May 21. All right. If"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "you were like, we all want to know. We"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "all want to see the classification"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "continued. There it is. It's Yep. So,"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "continued after 80 84. Let him Yeah. Let"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "the word go forth. This document does"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "not have the proper markings. Eric, what"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "were you saying, Julian? I'm saying we"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "if if we all wanted to like not have any"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "consequences for anything and like just"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "kind of like know we'd all love to see"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "the JFK document. Yeah, obviously. But"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "like we there was a second shooter on"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "the on the grassy null. No doubt."}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "There's a 99.9 actually 100,000% chance"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "that that person was traceable to"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "individuals in four different layers,"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "three different layers, two different"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "layers, one layer in a [\u00a0__\u00a0] mobster"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "removed from individuals at the CIA. And"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "so even if it were rogue elements there,"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "if you release that document 60 years"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "later tomorrow and it says that the"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "trust in the CIA is gone forever, it"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "doesn't matter if 60 years ago it's"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "like, \"Oh my god, you guys whacked the"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "president. No treat. What Andyy's saying"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "is there it doesn't matter if there's"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "trust or not. What would happen? What"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "would be the implications on society if"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "we all found out? They said, \"Okay, yep."}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "We plotted to kill Kennedy. We whacked"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "him.\" I could happen. How many people"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "would even pay attention to it? All you"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "need is that 01% chance you didn't. That"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "that seed of doubt over there that"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "allows deniability. Yes. Yeah. That's"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "the problem. It's it's so I want to I"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "want to make sure that I highlight"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "Julian that your whole you've slipped in"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "this rogue element thing like rogue"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "officer rogue element right that it's"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "not it's kind of like from uh Princess"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "Bride I don't think it means what you"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "think it means right we've talked about"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "Harlland's razor right no never"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "subscribe to conspiracy what can be"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "explained with idiocy oh that's what"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "that is okay never subscribe to"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "conspiracy what can be explained with id"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "idiocy"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "It's much more realistic that somebody"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "just had to go poop and they didn't read"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "that report on that could have saved"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "911. It's much more likely that that"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "person was just feeling sleepy and went"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "to go get a cup of coffee, ended up in a"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "long conversation, came back up and"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "forgot which document he was reading and"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "just did the crossword puzzle and went"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "home. Much more likely that happened"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "than some rogue rogue officer saw this"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "piece of killer bulletproof evidence and"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "said, \"I'm just going to let this pass"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "and let them all burn.\" Right? The thing"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "is, nobody You want to know what people"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "are really uncomfortable with the idea"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "of incompetency in the government."}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "That's what they're so uncomfortable"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "with that that they'd rather believe the"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "government is so intelligent that they"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "can keep a conspiracy. Then why did all"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "those people Why did all those people in"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "government politicians sell off all of"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "their American Airlines stocks two weeks"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "before? It's the same thing that"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "happened here with the guy who said,"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "\"I'm going to die in the Bahamas if it's"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "not going to be suicide. It's the FBI."}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "It's the CIA suiciding me.\""}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "Right. They've done that before, though."}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "No. Yeah. There's always You've always"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "got to be ready to consider correlation"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "versus causation."}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "Freedom."}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "So fresh"}]

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But uh so and they"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "do that because uh at at the core of the"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "Chinese experience, like we talked about"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "the American experience, at the core of"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "the Chinese experience, you are Chinese"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "first."}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "That's ideology that we're talking"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "about. Right. Right. So you you have"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "such a close tie to your family and you"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "have such a close tie to the homeland"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "that even if you are a Chinese"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "immigrant, you're still fighting for"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "your family and for the homeland, right?"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "It's still your first loyalty. It"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "doesn't mean it's your first loyalty by"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "like 99 to1. It could be 6040, but it's"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "still your first loyalty. And you are"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "often times responsible for caring for"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "the older generation. So your revenue,"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "your money is actually going back to"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "China to take care of your parents until"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "you can bring them to the United States."}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "So which is quite common for immigrants"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "though. It is. Yeah. I don't think it's"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "a spec idiosyncratic childing it to the"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "US ideology which is self first. I would"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "assume correct. In the United States mom"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "and dad have a retirement fund and they"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "have social security and they save their"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "own 401k. And if they didn't Well, why"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "the hell didn't you do that? Mom and dad"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "on you. Yeah. Yeah. Like now you're"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "draining on me. How does it feel that"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "you know the the grandkids are eating"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "ramen because you can't pay your"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "diabetes bill or whatever it is, right?"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "Like that's a whole different mindset in"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "the United States. Yeah. So stuff like"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "secret police stations that are not"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "sanctioned, uh the incredible amount of"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Chinese intelligence collection that"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "happens here in the last week before"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "coming here. We had a military uh"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "person, a US military officer or sorry,"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "US military enlisted person get arrested"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "for Chinese espionage. We had Google a a"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "technician at Google got arrested for"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "Chinese espionage. Wow. Right. So the"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "Chinese are actually actively recruiting"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "from our tech sector and from our"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "military. And that's just in the last 7"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "days. When you look at the prosecuted"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "cases of Chinese espionage in the United"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "States over the last 5 years, it's"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "record-breaking. More intelligence"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "espionage case arrests, just arrests,"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "than ever before. Every time there's an"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "arrest, our rule of thumb is for every"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "one arrest, there's nine more operations"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "that haven't been caught yet. Oh wow."}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "So, it gives you an idea of how active"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "the Chinese are against the United"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "States. I don't want to paint the"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "Chinese out to be a bad guy. They're"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "just doing the same [\u00a0__\u00a0] This is the"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "game. But we're the big dog. They're"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "trying to become the big dog. They're a"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "little meaner dog, though. They're a"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "very different breed. What is their"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "offer for espionage? Is it just money?"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "So, this is So, the offer for espionage,"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "when we talk about the offer, we have to"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "remember it goes back to those four,"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "right? Those four ideologies or those"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "four motivations. Reward we usually"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "associate with money. But reward is not"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "about money. It's about what you will do"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "with the money. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Yeah. You guys don't work for money. You"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "might think at at surface level, of"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "course I work for the money. No, no, no."}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "You work for what you're going to do"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "with the money. With the money. Okay. So"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "what the Chinese have learned about our"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "culture is that in our culture, we all"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "brag about the money and we keep secret"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "what we're going to do with the money."}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "It's really there because I'm worried"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "that my kids might not have enough money"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "for college. It's really there because"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "I'm worried about when I get older and I"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "get sick. It's there because I'm worried"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "about something or something else. So,"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "when they make a plea for us or when"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "they make an offer to us for money,"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "often times it's because we're already"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "in debt and we've made bad financial"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "choices because our culture is a debt"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "driven culture and we're also worried"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "about money in the future because we're"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "already in debt. So, it makes it very"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "easy for them to come in with a monetary"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "salvation. Wow. And we're like, \"Oh"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "shit.\" Yeah. I mean, I my secrets are"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "worth that much to you because my own"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "government doesn't think they're worth"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "that much to them. 200k in student loan"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "debt. Even though I work at Google, I"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "still have a lot of debt. I'm worried."}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "Yeah. And then you got the whole uh the"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "ideology of the United States also"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "includes cultural ideology that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "exist in Asia. Like for example, sex is"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "still a taboo topic in the United"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "States. As as open as it's become, it's"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "still a very taboo topic. Like the whole"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "sexual deviency thing I was just telling"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "you guys about, right? We don't really"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "like to talk about what our particular"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "kink is with just anyone. We don't"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "really like to talk about how often we"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "have sex or don't have sex with our"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "spouse or our girlfriend or whatever"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "else. We don't like talking about"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "whether or not we explored homosexuality"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "in college. There's all sorts of stuff"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "that we don't talk about that Europe"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "talks about on the front page of the"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "newspaper that they that they'll go out"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "and have drinks and like cheers each"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "other and talk about China way more"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "comfortable with it. No, but China hard"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "to believe. They're not more comfortable"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "with it, but they know we are"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "uncomfortable with it. So, they know how"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "to present us with what's known as in in"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "colloquial terms."}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "They can feed our sexual interest"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "because they don't have individual"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "freedom. It is what the we I guess the"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "CIA accused Trump of doing with Russia"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "like, \"Oh, you got peed on. You don't"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "want anybody to know that. We got you"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "get peed on now. We hold this power over"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "you.\" China will do that to someone in"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "the That's the C in rice. That's"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "coercion. Blackmail is coercion. The"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "other option of that is you get a"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "Chinese girlfriend, a chi, a discreet,"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "quiet, beautiful girlfriend that goes"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "where you need her to go when you need"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "her to go there and she treats you like"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "a king every time you arrive. So every"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "couple in Williamsburg is just spies."}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "I mean, it's it's not a it's not a"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "far-off accusation, right? But you want"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "to know why all those I mean, there's a"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "there's a real problem with American"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "academics traveling to Asia. The reason"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "that it's such a problem is because they"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "land in Koala Lumpur and they have their"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "Chinese girlfriend waiting for them for"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "4 days that their spouse doesn't even"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "know about. All taken care of by the"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "academic institution that invited them"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "there. And those girls"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "might not start as operatives. They"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "might just be hookers or mistresses or"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "whatever and then they become an asset"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "of an operative. Right. Yep. This is so"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "interesting. And then you're saying that"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "we can't do it in America because we"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "have individual freedoms. In other"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "words, an American to become to"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "prostitute their body. Yeah. Now, if"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "they do it, they do it. But we can't say"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "this is what you should do. Correct. And"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "if they do it, so not only that, but in"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "the United States, we've also gone for"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "our actual trained agents, our trained"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "field operators, we actively enforce"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "that they don't take that step because"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "when you take that step in that any kind"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "of romantic or physical anything because"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "of our ideology in the United States,"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "sex is very difficult to separate from"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "connection. Mhm. out of our control."}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "Have you have has anybody ever tried to"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "flip you? We've all been attempted in"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "different ways. And how did you know?"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "Could you tell they were an agent? Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "And what were they doing? Where were"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "you? So the the Can you say where you"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "were? Yeah. So there So my time at CIA,"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "I can't talk about that. Okay. When I"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "left CIA, one of my first big jobs was"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "in private intelligence. Okay. I went to"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "the United Arab Emirates, UAE. Okay. to"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "carry on a private intelligence contract"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "there because they were pulling from the"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "Trump school of thought and they're"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "like, \"Hey, we're going to privatize our"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "intelligence also.\" And it was a it was"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "a highpaying job in a foreign place. I"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "could take my family and write my own"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "check. Right. So So you had to go get"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "intelligence on someone out there. Uh"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "can you speak on it? It's an NDA"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "contract. So but I was supporting"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "private intelligence in Abu Dhabi,"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "right?"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "So those are our peoples out there. You"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "know what I mean? and well they're"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "they're our allies, right? So, uh when"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "you're out there, you're also presented"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "to everybody else who's traveling"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "through Dubai or traveling through Abu"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Dhabi. So, you got the Russians and the"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "Chinese and the the North Koreans, the"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "Iranians, all of them can travel through"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "the Middle East unlike they can in parts"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "of Europe, right? So, you have everybody"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "presented to you all the time. So what"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "oftenimes happens is it's not like it is"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "in the movies where somebody walks up to"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "you and they're like they they hand you"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "like a suitcase and they're like you go"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "and spy for us now, right? It's not it's"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "not quite like that. Instead, they they"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "try to build a relationship with you."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "They try to find out what you do. You"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "know they're a foreigner. You hear the"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "foreign accent. You know they're a"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "foreigner because they they have an ID,"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "a national ID in the Emirates that sh"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "that says what your nationality is,"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "right? But you still have to do business"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "with all of them. So you're you have to"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "work with the Chinese and the Israelis"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "and the Russians. The difference is how"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "do you determine which are doing a job?"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "So how do you do it and which are doing"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "the other job? Yeah. What gave it away?"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "Well, it it doesn't you don't it doesn't"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "get given away until they start asking"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "you to have like personal relationships"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "where you keep secrets. And give me"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "example like was there anybody who was"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "really good and while it was happening"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "you're like oh these [\u00a0__\u00a0] this"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "is a new level. I didn't even So the"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "MSAD is actually really good at this."}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "Okay. So tell me tell me. So when MSAD"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "MSAD will work with you is the israi"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "intelligence Israeli foreign collection"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "y shinbet is their FBI is their FBI got"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "it. So Israeli MSAD will they'll work"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "with you they'll collaborate with you"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "they'll share with you everything is a"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "team fight and it's always in the"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "workplace until you have a big victory"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "and then when you have a big victory"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "then they're like we should celebrate"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "this at this nice hotel or at this nice"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "bar or whatever else. we've got a"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "connection through the, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "Israeli connections and now we're going"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "to have like a private room and all this"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "other stuff and it's going to be this"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "this bangup party. Once as an as a"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "trained intelligence officer, once"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "someone takes you from a public setting"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "into a private setting, you know that"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "you're now on a what we call a"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "developmental path. They're trying to"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "develop you into"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "it. You're immediately red flagged."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "Okay. Right. Wait, red flag mean you red"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "flag them. Correct. Got it. Got it. Got"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "it. Guard is up. But at the same time,"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "like there's lots of cultures that just"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "want to party. Yeah. So you go to the"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "party and like it could go both ways,"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "honestly. Yeah. Okay. This is good. This"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "is good. This is good. So you have to"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "assess then what happens at the party."}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "So you're at this party. So now when"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "you're at the party, again, a standard"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "massage tactic is you're at the party"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "and then they'll start pulling you off"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "of the main party to have like these"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "sidebar conversations about work stuff."}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "Like, hey, it was incredible that you"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "found that thing that you found that"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "deep fake video and you're able to"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "reverse engineer who it came from. How"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "did you do that? Like, can you tell me"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "how you did that? So now this is why"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "it's important that you don't use"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "substances. If you're a little loose"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "with the drinks, you might volunteer"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "that information, right? And you've"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "already built a rapport with these"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "people. You guys just celebrated a"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "victory. your teammates. It's hard"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "enough sober to not talk. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "Okay. Okay. This and he's stroking your"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "ego. Look what you did. And Exactly. So,"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "you can see yourself going down this"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "this what we we also call it a slippery"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "slope. If you've ever climbed a tall"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "mountain, you get past the tree line,"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "you get into the rocks, it's like a rock"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "scramble. We call that a slippery slope"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "in espionage, too. Once you cross that"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "tree line, it's very hard to keep from"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "slipping. How do you maintain your"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "relationship with them while shutting"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "down their questioning? You have to"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "there has to be a point with a trained"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "intelligence person where you use a"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "language that they understand to let"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "them know that the development stops"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "there. Can you say what that is? [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "Yeah. So, you'll you'll have to say"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "something like, \"I appreciate our work"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "together, but you're getting into a"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "realm that's that I'm not willing to"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "share with you.\" Oh, so you got to I"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "thought it would be more subtle. You"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "basically just tell them no. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "that's pretty subtle in our world. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "really? Right. In our world, subtle is I"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "have professional obligations that"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "prevent me from going down this road."}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "What's not subtle? Shoot you in the Are"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "you a [\u00a0__\u00a0] spy? Are you trying to"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "steal slow-mo speak?"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "Okay. So, you had to say that to him and"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "then does he smile and go, \"Oo, you knew"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "what I was doing.\" Is there like a"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "little gamesmanship? There's some game"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "not with the not with MSAD. MSAD is"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "business. The Russians there's"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "gamesmanship because the Russians are"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "thinking this. The Russians are thinking"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "you say no today but tomorrow"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "game on. And also we've been doing this"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "with for decades with the Russians,"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "right? There is it is a dance. Okay. All"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "right. Had now I imagine you've also"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "tried to do this with others others. And"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "did you do the same tactic? Do you guys"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "have this victory and then all of a"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "sudden you pull them aside? No. That's"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "so the American tactic is very different"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "than a lot of other tactics. Okay."}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "What's the American? We are personal"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "writers. Share. You just share memes all"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "the time. Dickpicks. Yeah. Yeah. Okay."}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Okay. So, wait. Wait. You're personal"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "all the time. What does that mean? So"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "that means right out of the So can you"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "give us an example after CIA you can"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "talk about it? Uh yes after CIA can talk"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "about it. So same private contract in"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "the Middle East I needed to bring over a"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "reporting source for my contractor for"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "my for my uh contract holder."}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Means an intelligence source in the"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "private world. So you need a private"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "intelligence source from another"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "contractor and you need to bring them"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "over uh from a foreign country and"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "they're professional. This is what they"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "do for a living and you got to break"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "them. Uh yes, exactly right."}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "Except oftentimes you're not trying to"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "break anybody. What does that mean?"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "Because you're not trying to you're at"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "our way of doing things, right? The best"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "practice in the United States is that"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "you're not trying to break someone's"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "will. You're not trying to trick them or"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "dupe them. How do we operate with"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "incentives? You scratch my back, I"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "scratch yours. Is it? Yeah. Only my"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "scratch is better. I got you now. Now,"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "now so they don't even think that they"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "have become a double agent. They are you"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "they are grasping with that. They they"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "are professionals. So they know that's"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "what they're being asked to do. But at"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "the same time, they're like, I'm getting"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "this information which my people might"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "like. Or more importantly, they're"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "thinking, I'm getting this other Benny"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "that my people don't even have to know"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "about. Oh. Oh. Okay. So take us through."}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "Okay. So you got your target. Are there"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "multiple and you lock in on one or was"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "it always one for the whole time? So"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "usually what it is is you have a target"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "but the target that you want is not"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "reachable because the target that you"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "want is never going to convert. So you"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "end up pursuing that target to find out"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "who their network of close associates"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "are. So then you can peel off. It's like"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "trying to get a mob boss and then you"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "just get the other guy to snitch. Right?"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "So that's more of how it actually works."}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "And then when you actually find your way"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "to the associate, ideally the associate"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "has the ear of the primary target. So"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "now by influencing the associate you"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "influence the primary target. Okay. So"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "tell me how you did it. So then when you"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "approach the associate the associate is"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "trained but the associate also has their"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "own challenges because can you give me"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "the story? Can you give me the story of"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "how it happened? Uh I I can give you"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "that's still NDA but I can give you some"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "of it. Right. Okay. So I approached my"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "my associate. You guys are already have"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "a rapport. You're already working"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "together. Well I mean day one day one as"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "soon as I know this is the person that I"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "think is going to get me connected to"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "the per to the to the main target. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "I'm not keeping it professional. I'm I"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "am making it personal. Different than"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "MSAD. MSAD wants to keep it professional"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "until there's a reason to make it"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "personal. Our process is different"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "because our process has to fit our"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "culture and what people stereotypically"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "think of. Okay. So, what will you do?"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "What What would you We got to come over"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "for dinner. Come over for a barbecue."}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "Come meet my kids. Come you'll use your"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "family. Your whole your whole world is"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "yours, man. And there's no guilt in"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "that. There's no fear. There's fear, but"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "there's I mean, you can control the"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "fear. You can control your security, but"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "the guilt part isn't really this is a"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "foreigner. Okay. Okay. Keep it going."}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "Keep going. Right. So then right away"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "you're like, \"Hey, let's let's find a"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "way to bond over something uh easy and"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "surface level. Basketball, football,"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "golf, women, booze, whatever else."}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "Especially when you're talking to a"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "foreigner because foreigners have much"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "less like brain. Well,"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "they have less sensitivities than a lot"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "of Americans do because we are a"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "Christian culture, you know, at at"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "heart. Yeah. So, it's much easier to be"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "like, \"Hey, what do you like to do?\" And"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "they're like, \"I like to gamble. I like"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "to bet big and lose big.\" And you're"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "like, \"Well, then let's go do the thing,"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "right?\" And then when you're there and"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "they lose their ass, then you step in"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "and you're like, \"Man, you got better"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "luck than me because I lost my ass two"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "hours ago, so let's put another 500 on"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "you.\" And then you you start to show"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "them that you're a good time. you start"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "to do all the same [\u00a0__\u00a0] that you were"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "saying earlier. You were like, \"I like"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "you now and I I trust you now.\" Like you"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "were just saying. Also, if you're"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "bringing them to your wife, to your"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "family, your wife knows what time it is."}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "She's she's an operative, too. So, y'all"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "are firing on all cylinders, right? So,"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "that's how you And now remember, we're"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "talking to about a trained professional"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "on the other side cuz they know. So,"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "that trained professional on the other"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "side knows who you are and they know"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "what you did. Especially me. When I left"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "CIA, I've been overt ever since I left."}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "So, they know I'm formerly trained CIA."}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "So they knew when I was in Abu Dhabi"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "that that's what I was there to do. I"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "was there in an intelligence capacity. I"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "was there supporting a private contract."}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "The [\u00a0__\u00a0] do you still get them? Because"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "they want something more. You keep in"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "mind secrets are a commodity. What? They"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "want something more. Meaning it's a"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "personal thing or they representing"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "their country want something more."}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "Personal. They want to gamble. They want"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "drugs. They want women. They have a"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "vice. They want money because they're"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "they've been busting their ass their"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "whole life for a government wage. M"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "they've got kids that have medical"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "issues that can't be treated in their"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "home country. You'll find out all about"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "all those things. Yeah. Because what"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "happens is when we take it when you make"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "it personal right away, when you make it"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "personal right away, you break down all"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "those contrived barriers of what we can"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "and can't talk about. And you just go to"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "your employer and be like, \"Yo, give me"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "x amount of money and we can get"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "whatever you need.\" Sorry, real quick."}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "It can't be, \"Hey, here's money straight"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "up.\" They have to trust that you would"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "give them money, no strings attached,"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "right? It's not even just about money."}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "is about that you are the solution"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "provider,"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "right? Their kid has an illness. Yep. I"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "don't have to give them money to have"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "them treat their kid's illness. I can"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "make a call to a buddy who's a doctor in"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "Dubai. Again, you just have to take your"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "kids to what you were saying, it's not"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "about the money, it's about what the"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "money buys, what it does. So, I've I've"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "heard this with like different"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "operatives where it's like, oh, they"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "found out they're a huge football fan"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "and they're like, \"Dude, I actually have"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "a jersey, like a Patriots signed jersey."}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "Like, you should you should have it.\" Or"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "like they'll give them something like"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "that. Hypothetically, let's say you"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "found out someone was a huge fan of"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "standup comedy. Let's say they loved"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "Andrew Schultz. Okay. Let's say they"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "loved Akos. Okay. How could you leverage"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "that into getting what you want? So, if"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "I know they're a big fan Well, first of"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "all, if they're a big fan of your types"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "of comedy, yeah, they're good guys."}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "But I know a lot about them. You guys"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "have a very unique style of sexual"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "deviants."}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "Big. So, right away,"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "yeah, they're not going to see Sinbad,"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "you know what I mean? Yeah. So that"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "tells us a lot. But then what I can"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "That's interesting. Yeah. So that's"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "super important. Yeah. Um what we can do"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "is I can say that I have a client"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "that has front row seats to Andrew's"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "next show, but the client can't make it."}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "So I've got these three tickets that are"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "burning a hole in my pocket. Do you want"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "to come? I'll come. And then do you want"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "to bring your wife or do you want me to"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "find like a cute lady to come with us?"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "Oo. Now, would you buy the tickets"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "outright with the money or would you go"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "to Schulz be like, \"Yo, can we get some"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "tickets for the thing? Maybe do a meet"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "and greet.\" Well, so the reason I"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "wouldn't right now from today forward,"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "today forward, that makes me a special."}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "Yes. The reason I wouldn't do that is"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "because now I put a bookmark in his"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "mind. Yeah. Why did Andy want three free"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "tickets, right? Why do you want to be"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "comped? If I come to him and I'm like, I"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "want two tickets. He might be like us"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "for you and your wife and then he's"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "going to look for me at the show. But"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "instead, it's much easier to just go to"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] ticket office and buy three"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "tickets on a throwaway credit card under"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "somebody else's name, and then boom,"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "I've got three tickets. He doesn't know"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "to look for me that day. I can put on"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "some lame disguise so he doesn't even"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "see me. We're good to go. Right. But"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "that's that's how it would work to to"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "the target. Yeah. If you ask me tickets,"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "I would need information. Yeah. I like I"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "want to know everything. Wait, so you"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "got you got the dude though? You got the"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "information from him? We So where I got"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "is I got I got the guy to understand"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "that he was selling his information to"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "my client through the contractor and"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "that it was a discreet relationship with"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "the contractor and that I was going to"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "leave. And that's that's the ultimate"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "goal for us in the intelligence world."}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "The ultimate goal is to get your target"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "to share its information directly with"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "the institution so that you can exit."}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "That's the ultimate and that's the game"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "worldwide."}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "Freedom."}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "So fresh."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Hamas is now more popular with stronger"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "support in both Gaza and the West Bank"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "than ever before. Wow. Because people"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "there is absolutely a difference between"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "a Palestinian and a Hamas terrorist."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "They are not the same thing. Yes. But"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "because the media for so long has called"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "them the same thing. Have has you have"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "used the two words interchangeably."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "Yeah. Now it's common knowledge. If you"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "look at the news a week after October"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "8th when the attack happened, you would"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "see the news say 11,000 people have been"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "killed in Palestine according to Hamas"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "authorities. And then you would see a"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "little disclaimer at the bottom that"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "says Hamas controls the Gaza. So the"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "health and the health uh uh whatever"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "comes from them, right? So basically"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "saying don't trust this information"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "because it comes from Hamas. When you"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "look at the same thing now, it'll say"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "30,000 people have been killed according"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "to the Palestinian Health Authority. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "wow. Wow. So, we have just validated"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "that Hamas, who we are also calling a"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "terrorist organization, is a valid"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "government organization. Oh. And it's"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "tricky because they've always been the"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "the appointed political power in Gaza"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "since 2007. So they have been that, but"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "because we've been so shitty with our"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "vernacular and our terminology, we've"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "let the waters get foggy and now it's"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "very difficult to teach people the"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "truth. Well, I think we've questioned"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "whether or not they were actually"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "democratically elected. Right. That was"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "my understanding. Yeah. There's there's"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "very little evidence to say they were"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "democratically elected. Yeah. But it's"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "also because they're because of the"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "apartheid that's been practiced in in"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "Palestine territory for so long. there's"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "a question of whether or not they could"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "even have a democratic election. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "But the it's the the fact that they're"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "growing in popularity in the West Bank"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "is the part that's so interesting"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "because the West Bank has always been a"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "USbacked coalition of the Fata"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "government and now even that is falling"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "apart. So what do you think happens? Do"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "you think BB gets ousted? Um, I don't I"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "I would imagine in Israel either a"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "ceasefire is called that gets prolonged"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "while some new normal takes place and a"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "two-state solution comes back on the"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "table. That's the most likely thing"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "that's going to happen. Whether that"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "happens soon or not, I don't know"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "whether we're talking months or years."}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "But for Netanyahu to remain in power,"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "he's going to have to call a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "and then work through a ceasefire. Same"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "thing is going to happen in Ukraine."}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "Ukraine and Israel are going to look"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "very similar from this point forward. In"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "what way? Because the the aggressor or"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "the the"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "USbacked country, Ukraine and Israel"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "have both made promises that they can't"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "maintain. There's no way Zalinsky is"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "going to win this war to the point where"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "all of the pre-S Soviet era boundaries"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "of Ukraine are returned to Ukraine. So"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "now the decision is just how many people"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "are going to die. Yeah, this the"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "decision is how many people are going to"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "die before you call a ceasefire and"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "basically cut the country in half"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "according to the borders that are"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "already there. Y in Israel like uh"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "Netanyahu's promise that he's going to"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "occupy Palestinian lands once they are"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "done clearing cleansing the people of"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "Hamas, right? That's not going to"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "happen. You're not going to cleanse them"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "of Hamas. Like you've created an"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "injustice. Hamas is always going to be"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "there. And then if you do occupy"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "Palestinian lands, there's still"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Palestinian lands. And now you're going"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "to have even more impetus for"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "Palestinians to join Hamas and fight"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "back against against Israeli occupation."}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "So both of those leaders are going to"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "find they can't fulfill their promise."}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "The next best thing to fulfilling your"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "promise is essentially to find some kind"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "of prolonged stalemate that gives the"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "world a chance to reset with a different"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "disaster that takes the attention off of"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "you. And then once that different"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "disaster comes in, what do you do? Then"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "for those countries, they're off the X"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "now. Yeah. Off the X meaning not"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "everybody's watching them. And then"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "while they're not watching them, do they"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "try to find some sort of solution and"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "then everybody's got their tail tucked"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "between their legs, but it doesn't"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "matter because nobody's looking."}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "Frankly, what I think is going to happen"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "is Zillinsky and Netanyahu are going to"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "get political sanctuary asylum in the"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "United States. Wow."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "Because think about the United States"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "can't let Zinsky die. They cannot do it."}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "He's the he's the voice of democracy in"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "Europe. And everybody knows Putin wants"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "to kill him because that's going to be a"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "fantastic win for Putin. Putin's killed"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "at least two other opponents in the last"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "3 years, right? So, Zalinsky already, if"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "he hasn't already signed the deal, it's"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "coming his way soon. He will get asylum"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "in the United States and he'll be a"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "leader excommunicado, right? And and"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "that's who leads the country when he's"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "gone. It's going to be a shadow puppet"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "government for for Russia or it's going"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "to be a puppet government for NATO, one"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "way or the other. So, Ukraine and Israel"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "are begging China to invade Taiwan."}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "Correct. They're like, \"Do it tomorrow"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "so that we could settle our ship without"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "the X on our back.\" And China is sitting"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "here watching the whole thing. America's"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "running out of money. America's already"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "out of ammunition. NATO is torn on war"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "in Europe. It's time to dance. Nobody"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "cares about what's happening out here in"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "the South China except one thing. The"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "company that is putting the stock market"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "on its back happens to be a Taiwanese"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "company. and we will not let anything"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "happen to Nvidia. So what they got to do"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "is get Nvidia the [\u00a0__\u00a0] out of Taiwan. If"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "China was like, I'll take the entire"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "company and I'll just move it to Palo"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Alto, I think that it might work. So"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "what's funny is Nvidia is the AI country"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "is the AI company, but it's built on the"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "back of TMSC, which is semiconductor"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "company. And that is that's in Taiwan."}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "In Yep. So So TMSC, it's the"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "semiconductors in Taiwan that that are"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "the key to the future. And that's why"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "we're protecting them. Correct. If China"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "if China can find a way to get their"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "hands on a functioning working"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "semiconductor industry, then that's"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "going to massively increase their"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "ability to be a technological opponent,"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "right? A tech alternative to the United"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "States. And the first thing they do is"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "cut off supply to the United States or"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "start to heavily tax it or or more, you"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "know, put tariffs on it. But Taiwan for"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "some reason is just so far ahead of"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "everyone else when it comes to the chip."}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "Did they do that on purpose? Yeah. Like"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "how did this happen? The United States."}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "So we when we were doing these like um"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "experiments with newly industrialized"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "nations, right? It was Taiwan. There's a"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "few others out there in Asia as well."}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "And what was that was our foreign policy"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "to show, hey, listen, if you're cozy"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "with America, look how good it can be."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "And what was our strategy? Create"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "something that makes the industry of"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "that country dependent on America. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "on us. So we not on China cuz that's how"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "we have some influence and control out"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "there. And at the time who who had all"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "the demand for semiconductors? We did."}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Who was the only country creating"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "high-tech? We and what could we not do"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "in our country? Create like pollution"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "and"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "there it is. So now we can do outsource"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "all of your Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "Outsource all of the issues Greta"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Thunderberg is going to complain about."}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "Build up the industry of another country"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "right next to one of your potential"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "adversaries. At the time, China was an"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "ally. Oh, wait a minute. Really? Oh,"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "that's right. Cuz they're they're making"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "all the [\u00a0__\u00a0] that we're buying. Correct."}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "So, we didn't even foresee Do we do we"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "have military bases in Taiwan right now?"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Uh we don't have military bases in"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "Taiwan. We have military bases across"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "the South Pacific. Um but Taiwanese"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "military bases are uh they they're"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "shared. So like American planes and jets"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "can land on those bases with Taiwanese"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "permission. Unplanned, unannounced kind"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "of thing. I'm very impressed with your"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "geopolitical knowledge. I don't know"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] man. I don't know anything. But"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "this this is the smart idea. That's why"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "Alman wants to raise a trillion dollars"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "to catch up to get the semiconductor"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "production over here. 30 when China is"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "like at the same level as America and"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "now that becomes"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "when it happens for them"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "when all of our attention is on China."}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "What do you think happens with race"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "relations here in America because we"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "have so many Chinese Americans and you"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "said Chinese people are China first. So"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "like what's going to happen here? Um"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "it's it's an interesting question. Alex"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "thinks every Chinatown is a cell sleeper"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "cell. Yeah, you're right. I mean yeah"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "this man's a genius. Every son inside."}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "What the [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "How are you right about every once in a"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "while?"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "For years. Go on. Go on. Go on. Now he's"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "been dying on this cross. So this is"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "going to be great. I'm glad that he"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "lived on that cross. Wait, tell us tell"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "us. Tell us. So you're right. So, so"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "essentially the the way that the way"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "that diaspora communities"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "uh insulate intelligence collection is"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "that the intelligence collection uh"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "facilities or the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "collection agencies plant themselves in"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "the diaspora. So, a Chinatown is a"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "diaspora of Chinese immigrants in a"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "foreign country. So, the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "community just plants its own operatives"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "inside that community. It's not like the"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "community is there for intelligence"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "purposes. It's not even like the"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "community. Not even like the community"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "knows that there's intelligence cover."}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "It's just a very convenient entry point."}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "It's what we call a beach head. It's a"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "very convenient beach head. Beach head"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "for for an opponent force to insulate"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "itself from local launch. And do we have"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "beach heads in other places? It's"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "tougher because first of all, in the"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "United States, we don't have to we don't"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "create diaspora communities. Instead, we"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "create expats. Yeah. Who are who in who"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "uh acculturate the local community, but"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "they're still Americans. And we don't"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "really have to hide because we can just"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "be like, \"Hey, we're coming in to party"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "and we're going to bring new business"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "and American dollars and everything else"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "and everybody wants us there.\" Much"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "harder for a foreign country to come in"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "to another foreign country and be like,"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "like, could you imagine the Chinese were"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "like, \"We're here to party and we're"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "bringing Chinese UN with us and we're"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "like, convert that into dollars.\" And"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "then, you know, look at TikTok. Okay,"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "y'all. I got to sell this. Who"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "controls China has a 50-year policy,"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "right?"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "Two questions. Does America have a"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "50-year policy? No. Oh my god. So,"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "America has been, you're saying, for the"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "last few hundred years been curating its"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "policy four years or eight years at a"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "time. Correct. Oh my god. I mean, that"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "is it's mindboggling that we've even"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "been able to impressive that we got this"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "far. But and then what does that speak"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "to? Does that speak to the the power of"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "capitalism or democracy? Like it is"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "unbelievable that we've been able to"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "compete at the highest level with a new"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "dude in charge every four years. You"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "have to think back to the intentions of"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "the founding fathers. What the founding"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "fathers put in place was brilliant. It"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "was the reason that they're called"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "government servants is because you're"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "supposed to to sacrifice four years of"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "your life to go be a government servant"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "because you were in industry or"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "entertainment or business or something"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "else. Especially true in Congress. I"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "mean, and that's what it was up until"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "like the 1950s"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "and then they became these career"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "politicians. But you're right, it was"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "like it it was some a local person from"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "the community was going to stop his job"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "for two years. I think that's why the"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "what is it? The House of Representatives"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "is only a two-year term, right? It's"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "because, dude, I can't step away from my"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "farm for 6 years and do this. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "now that idea has completely gone to the"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "wayside. Now we have congressmen in"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "place for 13 years, 18 years, 24 years."}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "And who sets the term limits for"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "Congress? Congress. So it's not even"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "like that's one of the places where"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "there's a lack of checks and balance."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "There is no check and balance there"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "whatsoever. They give themselves a"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "raise. Yep. They it's insane. This"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "legislative branch is the least uh the"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "least checked branch of all of them. And"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "the idea is that the check is built"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "within it. That not any one of them have"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "this, you know, huge amount of power. Of"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "course, I get that a two-party system."}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "Yes. But when they're acting as a"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "collective and they're all incentivized"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "by the same thing, there's no check on"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "that. So maybe that was the one thing"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "that they missed because I'm sure at the"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "time when the founding fathers were"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "creating, they're like, who the [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "would want to be in government? Even"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "George Washington was like, dude, just"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "owning slaves is way better. You know"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "what I mean? He's like, [\u00a0__\u00a0] all this"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "freedom [\u00a0__\u00a0] He said no. I need some"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "new teeth. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "wow. That's so interesting. They"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "couldn't fathom that people in a free"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "world would want to govern. So, they"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "didn't even put the check into it"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "because it was always supposed to be a"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "position for the most experienced, most"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "elite, people with the most to lose"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "because again, that's a [\u00a0__\u00a0] great"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "point, too. If you had nothing, if you"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "were not a land owner, you couldn't even"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "run for office, which which sounds"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "incredibly unfair, but understand it was"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "supposed to be representative. So the"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "people that were most affected by these"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "laws were the people that did own land,"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "right?"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "So in our own This is why I call us like"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "this is why I say that we're as a"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "country. We're in middle school. Middle"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "school. Yeah. It sucks. It's a childish"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "problem to have. You don't even realize"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "it. But yeah. H But we're not the"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "youngest in terms of democracy. No. So"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "there are other countries that are way"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "older in terms of their culture, but"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "their democracies are much younger. And"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "do they have the same problems? They do"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "in large part because their democracies"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "are mauled off of ours. Yeah. So Taiwan"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "is one because we were first, we didn't"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "see this problem coming, I don't think."}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "Right. Taiwan is a fantastic example."}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "January Taiwan had elections. The"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "president that was elected was part of"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "the opposition party, the separatist"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "party from China. And the whole world"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "separate the whole world like rejoice"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "like oh the new Taiwanese president is"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "an opposition to China. The Congress of"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "Taiwan is in favor of reunifying with"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "China. Wait a minute. The dominant the"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "dominant party in the Congress is"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "pro-China. The president is anti-China."}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is China"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "influencing these elections?"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "So, there is a way where China can get"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "Taiwan"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "without even having to invade. That's"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "China's way of doing it. Look at what"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "they did in Hong Kong in 2019. Now, I"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "would say that was a little more"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "forceful."}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "the the force happened at the end, but"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "you're saying the leadup was there was"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "like an was it ingratiation? Is that the"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "China China has uh some of the best"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "legal capabilities in the world? That's"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "why so many American law school"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "graduates are actually Chinese citizens"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "because people come to law school here."}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "Chinese people come here for law school"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "and then they go practice law all over"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "the world understanding international"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "law or American law. American law,"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "democratic law, and then they apply"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "that. So in Hong Kong, what happened is"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "over the course of maybe 5 years, China"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "uh systematically changed the"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "legislative values of Hong Kong using"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "very legal methods. It's really smart"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "until the time came when they pulled the"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "dial and they were like, \"Hey, Hong"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "Kong, now all of your citizens are held"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "to Chinese standards, Chinese laws.\" And"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "then the people were like, \"That's not"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "legal.\" And then China was like,"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "\"Actually, yes it is. This is"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "Freedom"}]

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So the conflict"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "that exists between Palestine, a Muslim"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "country or a Muslim uh group and Israel,"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "a Jewish largely predominantly Jewish"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "group essentially is the the"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "generational ongoing conflict between"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "Isaac and Ishmael. And is there so"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "forgive me dear listeners, but I think"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "of this as a story uh and a very"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "powerful story, but one designed to"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "convey things at each branch. So between"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "the brothers, I have to imagine there"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "was a tale that we learn about each"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "brother. Each brother represents"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "something. What do the brothers"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "represent? So I I don't I am not"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "creative enough, I think, to speak to"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "the literary uh Jordan Peterson. No, for"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "real. Like this is his whole like"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "showing how basically modern humanity"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "can be read through the lens of"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "religious traditions and what those"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "stories tell you. Most people haven't"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "read his book, Maps of Meaning. It is"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "unbelievably good. Uh anyway, so okay,"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "so that part we don't have. That's we"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "have a dot point that has a gap. Maybe"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "we won't be able to fill it in here, but"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "I get your point. So we've got the two"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "brothers that they create two different"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "traditions. And they both lay they both"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "have valid claim all the way back to the"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "biblical a valid claim of what? a valid"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "claim all the way back to biblical and"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "or Quranic tradition to being tied to"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "the father of all nations. Okay. Why"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "does that matter? Because for both of"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "them, what they're what they're really"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "trying to say is that they have a right"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "to survive in in equality. That they are"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "tied to the father of all nations. But"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "does this come down to hey, we're tied"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "to the father of all nations and that"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "manifests as dirt and so this dirt and"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "rock is rightfully mine. Uh I think"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "that's the oversimplified way that the"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "western world has. Is it oversimplified"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "or is that really what like at some"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "point this manifests as something either"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "ideological or tangible? So the the"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "place where it becomes tangible and"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "ideological is in the end of World War"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "II. At the end of World War II, the"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Jewish diaspora that had been hunted and"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "killed by the Nazi party needed a a a"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "country of their own. And because other"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "countries in the world didn't want to"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "take on the refugees, they essentially"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "took them all to the Palestinian state"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "that is now known as Israel and was and"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "the west the western allies granted the"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "boundaries of Israel and said this is"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "where the Jews should live. This is"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "where Jerusalem exists. This is where"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "the this is this is their homeland where"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "they were born, where they came from."}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Going back to the brothers. Going back"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "to the brothers. But the Palestinian"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "Muslims were already there. They had"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "never been displaced from their"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "homeland. So by having the West create a"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "nation state, create boundaries and"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "everything for a group of religious"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "people, Jews that were persecuted during"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "World War II. Now all of a sudden the"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "west defined the organizational"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "uh national structure of Israel and"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "that's where the conflict really started"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "because now you had western allies"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "saying this is a Jewish state the Jewish"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "state defining itself as Israel the"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "Palestinian diaspora who were now being"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "forced from their own homeland saying"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "but we were already here like this is"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "this is Jerusalem is the city where a"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "where uh Muhammad ascended into heaven."}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "like this is a holy place for us too."}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "And so the West was just like, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "then you can both share it."}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "We're going home, right? We got we got a"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "party after VE Day. We're we're done"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "here.\" And that's where everything"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "started. From there, you also then had"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "Western powers funding and fueling the"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "economic success of Israel. And by the"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "way, I just want people listening at"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "home, uh,"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "you are providing a very fast painting."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "I know enough to know that there's, you"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "know, God only knows how much history of"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "conflict before 1948 where these"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "boundaries are laid and all that stuff."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "This I I just want people to understand"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "this is an exercise on how to think"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "through a difficult problem. This is not"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "a um one forone accurate representation"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "of everything. You will need a far"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "longer video from experts in this field."}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "We we go into this conversation fully"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "understanding that. Um, but I do think"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "to the initial framing of this episode,"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "I think it's very important to"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "understand what I'm trying to do. Uh, I"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "think putting your head down is the"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "wrong move. At this particular moment in"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "history, there are probably times that"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "come and go throughout history where it"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "is okay to put your head down. And for"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "the first 40 years of my life, I had my"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "head down and it worked out wonderfully."}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "Uh, but this moment feels different."}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "Now, that could be a mirage. Maybe it's"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "just my age and everybody sort of pokes"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "their head up at this point in their age"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "and starts thinking the way that I'm"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "thinking. I don't know. But this moment"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "really does feel different to me and"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "we'll get into AI and some other things"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "later. I think there are a lot of"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "threats on the board right now. Um"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "certainly AI technology, social media,"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "all of that. We talked about velocity"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "and volume of information earlier. All"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "of that's at play. So anyway, I just"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "want to set that stage so the comments"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "doesn't waste time with like the boring"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "like because yes, simplistic"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "viewpoint here from the setting of the"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "table. We'll talk okay but what do you"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "do now? Right. Um, and what I really"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "hope because I I think that the comments"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "are going to end up being a big part of"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "what makes this episode um, useful to a"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "larger audience. So, I hope that we can"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "eliminate some of the more"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "I don't want people to get bogged down"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "in the wrong thing. So, yes, many"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "details to talk about. We just need to"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "set a quick table so that then we can"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "talk about things like, hey, when humans"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "have a historical conflict over who has"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "a right to the land without getting lost"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "in the minutia of that, how do you move"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "forward? And that just again, so we're"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "setting the table. Sorry. No. So it's"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "fair. So I'll I'll set the table faster,"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "too. No, no, no. I don't need you to set"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "it faster cuz I know no matter how much"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "you do, we're we're not going to get"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "there. The more detail you have, give it"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "to me for sure. Fair enough. So, so then"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "what ended up happening was now we have"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "uh as as the west places uh the Jewish"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "diaspora into Israel and and and"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "supports the establishment of of a"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "Jewish state, we then also have the"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "responsibility of the West in fueling"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "the economy for the Jewish state because"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "you can't I mean we did the same thing"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "in Japan. We're going to rebuild."}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "There's economic benefits to the United"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "States in rebuilding foreign countries."}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "There's economic benefits in having"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "allies that you help economically"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "rebuild. So fast forward till today and"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "now you have Israel had this massive"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "boost economically from Western partners"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "and Western allies when they were placed"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "in Israel. Those the the Palestinian"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "counterparts did not have access to that"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "financial benefit that the Israelis did."}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "So there's, like you said, decades of"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "conflict between Israelis and"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "Palestinians, and there's everything's"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "documented out there, and there's a"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "thousand ways that you can look at it"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "and interpret it and whatever else. But"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "in the end, what what happened was the"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "the Palestinians through the lens of"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "most Muslim countries became oppressed,"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "became ostracized from their own like"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "their own land, their own nation where"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "they could thrive and to build an"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "economy and build a political"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "establishment and build a legacy for"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "their future because that land was being"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "supported and developed by the Jewish"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "state and and the Jewish state and the"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "Muslim state just didn't want to get"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "along for a number of reasons that that"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "we don't really have a say in because we"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "didn't live there at the time. Right?"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "And that's how that's how I interpret uh"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "the many years of historical conflict"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "between Palestinians and Israelis in"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "that country. The place where we have to"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "fast forward this to is till 1997."}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "In 1987,"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "Hamas"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "became a political group that was"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "supporting Palestinians in their fight"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "to resist what was perceived to be"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "Israeli oppression. Hamas became the"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "more aggressive group versus the"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "Palestinian Authority, which became"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "what's known as a secular group or a"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "non-religious group. And those became"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "the two c the two political powers vying"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "for support from the Palestinian people."}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "And at the time in 1987, the vast"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "majority of that support went to the"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "Palestinian Authority, not to Hamas."}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "Hamas's promise at the time was we will"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "destroy the Israeli country and we will"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "return the entire country back to the"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "Muslim people. Not a religious war. They"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "weren't going after killing Jews. They"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "were trying to destroy Israel."}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "Not that it makes it that much better,"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "but at least to clarify what their"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "ambitions were in 1987."}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "Nobody determined that Hamas was a"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "terrorist organization in 1987, despite"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "their claim, despite their promise to"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "eradicate Israel. In 1997,"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "following major terrorist attacks inside"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "the United States, the peak being the"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "Timothy McVey bombing uh of Oklahoma in"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "Oklahoma City, the United States became"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "very focused on terrorism and"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "counterterrorism. And in 1987 they"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "created the terrorist watch list or the"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "foreign terrorist organization list. And"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "in that list they listed every Muslim"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "extremist group as a terrorist"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "organization. On that list Hamas was"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "included. So at that moment in time in"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "1997 based on what was happening in the"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "United States in their struggle with"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "extremism they targeted Muslim extremism"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "as one of the other one of the many"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "extremisms that they would list as"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "terrorist organizations. That's why even"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "today the United States lists Hamas as a"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "terrorist group where most of the rest"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "of the world does not. There's even"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "country like there's only 12 countries"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "total that that list Hamas as a"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "terrorist organization. And in many ways"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "it's because those 12 countries there's"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "11 countries take the lead. They follow"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "the lead of the United States. The UN as"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "an organization does not list Hamas as"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "terrorist. So in 1997, Hamas becomes a"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "terrorist group, but they're this"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "terrorist group that also has a"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "political arm that's supporting and"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "taking care of the Palestinian people"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "within Gaza."}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "That's already kind of a mess. That"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "becomes complicated, right? Palestine"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "can't create a standing army. They can't"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "create their own standing economy. They"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "can't create foreign trade. They can't"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "create anything significant because they"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "don't have they're not recognized as a"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "nation. So a few Muslim countries like"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "Qatar and and Saudi Arabia and Egypt"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "recognize the Palestinian people but not"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "the Palestinian state. And everybody"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "recognizes the right of the Palestinians"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "to a state but nobody wants to say what"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "that state is going to be. So that"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "becomes a mess that most of the first"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "world doesn't even follow, doesn't"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "really care about until things start"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "blowing up in Israel and Palestine."}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "October 7th,"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "2023,"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "this group known as Hamas based out of"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "Gaza conducts this massive incursion."}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "The the most doctrinally correct word is"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "it was an incursion across a border"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "within one country closest to a civil"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "war, much closer to a civil war than an"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "attack from a foreign nation. Right?"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "They carry out this incursion that uses"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "terrorist tactics, terrorist tools, but"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "also targets, military targets for a"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "political goal that has been stated and"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "consistent since 1987."}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "Now, we live in this world where what is"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "this thing that's happening? The United"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "States labels the group as a terrorist"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "group. However, all humanitarian aid"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "that we send to Palestine has to go"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "through Hamas. Like, they control the"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "politics. They control the governance."}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "They control the hospitals, not"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "terrorist. Al-Qaeda never controlled"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "hospitals, right? That's it's it's not"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "as clear as we think it is, but it's"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "hard to get that nuance across with the"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "velocity and volume of information. So"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "now we live in this world where velocity"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "and volume of information make it so"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "that we all see the dead bodies and the"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "the crying children and the dying women"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "on the Palestinian side, but we also"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "read about the atrocities that were"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "executed against these Israelis in a"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "surprise attack on October 7th. We're"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "faced with all the information and"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "there's no clarity as to what's really"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "the nuance, what's really the the"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "battlefield. What are we really looking"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "at here? So, you've got Israel trying to"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "counter what they know is a is a threat"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "to their national sovereignty, but"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "they've also got a problem with a group"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "that was created because of the"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "oppression they put on the Palestinian"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "people. And that's that is what the"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "group states is their whole their whole"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "core purpose. The reason they exist at"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "all is because of that oppression. So"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "you've got this this absolute mess that"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "the world is watching play out daytoday,"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "but at the same time the world isn't"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "invested enough to actually try to"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "resolve the conflict."}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "Freedom."}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "Freedom."}]

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The whole world"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "miscalculated how the Ukrainians would"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "respond. Putin did not move in there"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "accidentally. He had an assessment. He"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "had high likelihood of a certain outcome"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "and that outcome did not happen. Why did"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "he have that calculation? Because in"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "2014, it worked. He invaded uh he took"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "Crimea in in 14 days. He basically"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "created uh a an infiltration campaign"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "that turned key leaders over in the"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "first few days of the conflict. So"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "essentially there was no conflict. It"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "worked in 2008 when he took Georgia."}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Nobody talks about that. He invaded"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "Georgia the exact same same way and it"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "worked. So in 2008 it worked. In 2014 it"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "worked. There was no reason to believe"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "it wasn't going to work again. So he"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "just carried out the same campaign. But"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "this time something was different. That"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "was a miscalculation for sure on the"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "part of Putin. And the reason that there"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "was no support from the west because"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "let's not forget there is no support."}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "There is nothing other than the lend"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "lease act which is putting Ukraine in"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "massive debt right now to the west."}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "That's the only form of support they're"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "getting from NATO or the United States."}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "So if somebody believed Ukraine would"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "win, if somebody believed Ukraine had a"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "chance, they would have gotten more"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "material support than just debt, and we"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "can jump into that anytime you want to,"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "but the whole world miscalculated."}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "Everybody thought Russia was going to"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "win in 14 days. I I said that they would"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "win in 14 days cuz that was the"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "predominant calculation."}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "Once the first invasion didn't work,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "then the military does what professional"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "militaries do, man. They they"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "re-evaluate,"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "they re reorganize leaders, and then"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "they take they take a new approach. You"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "saw three approaches. The first two did"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "not work. The first two campaigns"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "against Ukraine did not work the way"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "they were supposed to work. The third"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "has worked exactly like it's supposed to"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "work. You don't need Kiev to win"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "Ukraine. You don't need hearts and minds"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "to win Ukraine. What you need Yeah. What"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "you need is control of of natural"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "resources which they're taking in the"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "east. And you need access to the"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "heartbeat, the the blood flow of food"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "and money into the country, which"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "they're taking in the south. the fact"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "that Ukraine had to go to the"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "negotiation table with Russia and Turkey"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "in order to get exports out of the Black"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "Sea approved again demonstrates just how"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "much Ukraine is losing."}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "The the aggressor had a seat at the"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "negotiation table to allow Ukraine the"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "ability to even export one of its top"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "exports. If Russia would have said no,"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "then they would not have had that."}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "Russia has that's like someone holding"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "your throat. It's like somebody holding"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "your jugular vein and saying, \"If if you"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "don't do what I tell you to do, then I'm"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "not going to let you breathe. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "going to let blood flow to your brain.\""}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "So, do you think it's possible that"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "Russia takes the south of Ukraine? It"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "takes um so starting from Marupople,"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "the Hersan region all the way to Odessa,"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "all the way to Odessa and into into uh"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "Malddova. I believe all of that will"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "happen before the fall."}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "Fall of this year, fall of this year"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "before winter hits Europe. NATO wants"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Germany needs to be able to have"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "sanctions lifted so they can tap into"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "Russian power. There's no way they can"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "have those sanctions lifted unless"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "Russia wins. And Russia also knows that"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "all of Europe, all of NATO is the true"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "the true people feeling the pain of the"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "war outside of Ukraine are the NATO"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "countries because they're so heavily"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "reliant on Russia. And as they have"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "supported American sanctions against"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "Russia, their people feel the pain."}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "Economically, their people feel the"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "pain. What are they going to do in the"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "winter? Because without Russian gas,"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "their their people are going to freeze"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "to death. Ukrainian people, people all"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "over NATO. I Ukraine, everybody knows"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "Ukraine's at risk. Everybody knows"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "Ukrainians are dying. The game of war"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "isn't played just it isn't even played"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "majorly by the people who are fighting."}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "The game of war is played by everyone"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "else. It's an economic game. It's not a"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "military game. The flow of resources and"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "energy, attention. Exactly. Right."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "I was on the front in the Hersan region,"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "this very area that you're referring to"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "and I spoke to a lot of people and those"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "the morale is incredibly high and I"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "don't think the people in that region"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "soldiers volunt volunteer soldiers"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "civilians"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "are going to give up that land without"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "dying. I agree with you. I mean in order"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "to take Adessa"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "would require"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "huge amount of artillery and slaughter"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "of civilians. Essentially they're not"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "going to use artillery in Odessa because"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "Odessa is too important to Russian"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "culture. Um it's going to be even uglier"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "than that. It's going to be clearing of"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "streets, clearing of buildings person by"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "person, troop by troop. It'll be a lot"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "like what it was in Marvel, just"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "shooting at civilians because they can't"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "afford to just do bombing raids because"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "they're going to destroy cultural uh"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "significant architecture that's just too"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "important to the Russian culture and"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "that's going to demoralize their own"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Russian people. I have to do a lot of"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "thinking to try to understand what I"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "even feel. I I don't know. But"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "in terms of information, the thing that"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "the soldiers are saying, the the Russian"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "soldiers are saying, the thing the"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "Russian soldiers really believe is that"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "they're freeing, they're liberating the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "Ukrainian people"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "from"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "Nazis"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "and they believe this"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "because I visited Ukraine. I spoke to"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "the over hundred probably a couple"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "hundred Ukrainian people from different"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "walks of life. It feels like the Russian"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "soldiers at least are under a cloud of"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "propaganda. They're not operating on a"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "clear view of the whole world. And um"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "given all that, I just don't see"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "Russia taking the South without"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "committing"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "war crimes."}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "And if Vladimir Putin is aware of what's"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "happening in terms of the treatment of"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "civilians,"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "I don't see him pushing forward all the"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "way to take the south because that's not"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "going to be"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "um effective strategy for him to win the"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "hearts and minds of his people."}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "Autocracies don't need to win hearts and"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "minds. That's a staunchly democratic"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "point of view. Hearts and minds mean"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "very little to people who understand"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "core basic needs and uh and true power."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "You don't see Xiinping worrying about"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "hearts and minds in China. You don't see"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "uh you don't see it in North Korea. You"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "don't see it in in Congo. You don't see"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "it in most of the world. Hearts and"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "minds are a luxury. In reality, what"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "people need is food, water, power. They"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "need income to be able to secure a"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "lifestyle. It's it is absolutely sad. I"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "am not in any way, shape, or form saying"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "that my assessment on this is is"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "enriching or enlightening or or uh"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "hopeful. It's just"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "fact. It's just calculatable empirical"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "evidence."}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "If Putin loses in Ukraine, the losses,"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "the influential losses, the economic"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "losses, the lives lost, the power lost"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "is too great. So it is better for him to"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "push and push and push through war"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "crimes, through everything else. War"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "crimes are something defined by the"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "international court system. The"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "international court system has Russia as"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "part of its board. and the international"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "court system is largely powerless"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "when it comes to enforcing its own"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "outcomes. So the real risk gain scenario"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "here for for Russia is is is"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "significantly in favor of gain over"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "risk."}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "The other thing that I think is"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "important to talk about is we everybody"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "is trapped in the middle of a gigantic"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "information war. Yes, there's"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "battlefield bullets and cannons and"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "tanks, but there's also a massive"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "informationational war. The same"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "narrative that you see these ground"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "troops in Ukraine, these Russian ground"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "troops in Ukraine believing they're"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "clearing the land of Nazis."}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "That information is being fed to them"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "from their own home country. I don't"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "know why people seem to think that the"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "information that they're reading in"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "English is any more or less true. The"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "enti every piece of news coming out of"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "the west, every piece of information"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "coming out in the English language is"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "also a giant narrative being shared"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "intentionally to try to undermine the"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "the morale and the faithfulness of"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "English-speaking Russians, which"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "somebody somewhere knows exactly how"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "many of those there are. So we have to"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "recognize that we're not getting true"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "information from other side because"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "there is a strategic value in making"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "sure that there is just the right amount"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "of mis or disinformation out there. Not"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "because someone's trying to lie to"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "Americans, but because someone is trying"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "to influence the way English-speaking"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "Russians think. And in that world,"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "that's exactly why you see so many news"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "uh articles cited to anonymous sources,"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "government officials who do not want to"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "be named. there's no nothing that links"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "back responsibility there, right?"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "There's nothing they can go to court"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "there. Uh but this the information still"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "gets released and that's that's enough"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "to make Ukrainians believe that the"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "United States is going to help them or"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "that the West is going to help them."}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "It's enough to make Russians think that"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "that they're going to lose and maybe"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "they should just un they should just"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "give up now and leave from the"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "battlefield. Now, we have to understand"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "we are in the middle of a giant"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "information war. Maybe you can correct"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "me, but it feels like in the English-"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "speakaking world, it's harder to"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "control. It's harder to to fight the"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "information war because of, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "some people say there's not really a"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "freedom of speech in this country, but I"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "think uh if you compare, there's a lot"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "more freedom of speech and it's just"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "harder to control narratives when"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "there's a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "um gorilla journalists that are able to"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "just publish anything they want on"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "Twitter or anything. It's just harder to"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "control narratives. So, people don't"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "understand what freedom of speech is."}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "That's the first major problem. And it's"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "it's shameful how many people in the"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "United States do not understand what"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "freedom of speech actually protects. So,"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "that aside, you're absolutely right."}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "Fighting the information war in the West"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "is extremely difficult because anyone"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "with a blog, anyone with a Twitter"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "account, anyone I mean anyone can call"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "themselves a journalist essentially. We"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "live in a world, we live in a country"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "where people read the headline and they"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "completely bypass the author line and"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "they go straight into the content and"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "then they decide whether the content's"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "real or not based on how they feel"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "instead of based on empirical measurable"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "evidence."}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "So you mentioned the len lease act and"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "the support of the United States support"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "of Ukraine by the United States. Are you"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "skeptical to the level of support that"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "the United States is providing and is"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "going to provide over over time? The"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "strategy the United States has taken to"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "support Ukraine is similar to the"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "strategy we took to support Great"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "Britain during World War II. Uh the the"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "enactment of the Len Lease Act is a"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "perfect example of that. The Len Lease"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "Act means that we are lending or leasing"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "equipment to the Ukrainian government in"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "exchange for future payment."}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "So every time a rocket is launched,"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "every time a drone crashes into a tank,"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "that's that's a bill that Ukraine is is"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "just racking up. It's like when you go"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "to a restaurant, you start drinking"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "shots. Sometime the bill will come due."}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "This is exactly what we did when uh"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "Europe and when Great Britain was in the"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "face of uh Nazi invasion. We signed the"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "same thing into into motion. Do you know"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "that that the UK did not pay off the"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "debt from World War II until 2020?"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "They've been paying that debt since the"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "end of World War II. So, what we're"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "doing is we're indebting Ukraine against"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "the promise that perhaps they will"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "secure their freedom, which nobody seems"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "to want to talk about what freedom is"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "actually going to look like for"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "Ukrainians, right? What are the true"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "handful of outcomes, the realistic"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "outcomes that could come of this? And"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "what which of those outcomes really"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "looks like freedom to them? uh"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "especially in the face of the fact that"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "they're going to be trillions of dollars"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "in debt to the West for supplying them"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "with the training and the weapons and"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "the food and the medkits and everything"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "else that we're giving them because none"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "of it's free. It's all coming due. It's"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "all we're a democracy, but we're also a"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "capitalist country. We we can't afford"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "to just give things away for free, but"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "we can give things away at a discount."}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "We can give things away layaway, but the"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "the bill will come due. And"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "unfortunately that is not part of the"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "conversation that's being had with the"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "American people. So debt is a way to"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "establish some level of control. Power"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "is power. That said, having a a very"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "close relationship between Ukraine and"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "the United States does not seem to be"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "an a negative possibility"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "when Ukrainians think about their future"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "in terms of freedom. That's one thing."}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "And uh the other there's some aspect of"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "this war that I've just noticed that um"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "one of the people I talked to said that"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "uh all great nations"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "uh have a independence war have to have"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "a war for their independence in order"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "there's something it's dark but there's"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "something about war just being a"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "catalyst for finding your own identity"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "as a nation. So you can have leaders,"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "you can have sort of signed documents,"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "you can have all this kind of stuff, but"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "there's something about war that really"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "brings the country together and actually"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "try to figure out what is at the core of"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "the spirit of the people that defines"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "this country. And they see this war as"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "that as the independence war to define"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "the heart of what the country is. So"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "there's there's been before the war,"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "before this invasion,"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "there was a lot of factions in the"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "country, there was um a lot of uh"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "influence from oligarchs and corruption"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "and so on. A lot of that was the"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "factions were brought together under one"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "umbrella uh effectively to become one"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "nation because of this invasion. So they"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "see that as a positive direction for the"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "def defining of what a free democratic"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "country looks like after the war at in"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "their perspective after the war is won."}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "It's a difficult situation because I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "trying to make sure that that you and"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "all everybody listening understands that"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "what's happening in Ukraine among"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "Ukrainians is noble and brave and"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "courageous and beyond the expectations"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "of anyone."}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "The fact is there is no material support"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "coming from the outside. The American in"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "the American Revolution was won because"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "of French involvement, French ships,"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "French troops, French generals, French"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "military might. The uh independence of"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "of communist China was won through"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "Russian support, Russian generals,"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "Russian troops on the ground fighting"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "with the communists. That's how"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "revolutions are won. That's how"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "independent countries are born. Ukraine"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "doesn't get any of that. No one is"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "stepping into that because we live in a"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "world right now where there simply is no"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "economic benefit to the parties in power"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "to support Ukraine to that level. And"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "war is a game of economics. The economic"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "benefit of Ukraine is crystal clear in"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "favor of Russia, which is why Putin"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "cannot lose. He will not let himself"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "lose short of something completely"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "unexpected. Right? I'm talking 60% 70%"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "probability Ukraine loses, but there's"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "still 20% 30% probability of the"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "unimaginable happening. Who knows what"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "that might be? An oligarch assassinates"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "Putin or a nuclear bomb goes off"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "somewhere or who knows what, right?"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "There's still a chance that something"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "unexpected will happen and change the"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "tide of the war. But when it comes down"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "to the core calculus here, Ukraine is"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "the agricultural bed to support a future"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "Russia."}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "Russia knows, they know they have to"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "have Ukraine. They know that they have"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "to have it to protect themselves against"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "military pressure from the West. They"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "have to have it for agricultural"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "reasons. They have major uh oil and"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "natural gas pipelines that flow through"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "eastern Ukraine. They they cannot let"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "Ukraine fall outside of their sphere of"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "influence. They cannot. The United"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "States doesn't really have any economic"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "vested interest in Ukraine. ideologic,"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "you know, ideological points of view and"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "promises aside, there's no economic"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "benefit. And the same thing goes for"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "NATO. NATO has no economic investment in"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "Ukraine. Ukrainian output, Ukrainian uh"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "food goes to the Middle East and Africa."}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "It doesn't go to Europe."}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "So the whole the the side the west"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "siding with Ukraine is exclusively"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "ideological and it's putting them in a"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "place where they fight a war with Russia"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "so the whole world can see Russia's"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "capabilities. Ukraine is a as sad as it"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "is to say man Ukraine is a pawn on a"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "table for superpowers to calculate each"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "other's capacities. Right now we've only"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "talked about Russia and United States."}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "We haven't even talked about Iran. We"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "haven't even talked about China. Right."}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "It is a pawn on a table. This is a"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "chicken fight so that people get to"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "watch and see what the other trainers"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "are doing."}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "on"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "freedom."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Why is the United States involved in"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "this? It has nothing to do with"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "Ukraine's independence or sovereignty"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "helping the United States. Do we own"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "them? Is that part of it? Client state"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "over there. Even if you did, like what"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "do you own? You own a povertystricken"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "country that's on the verge of a failing"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "democracy. That was before it was"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "invaded."}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "You want to know what you get out of"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "this conflict? The United States gets to"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "practice logistical shipments of"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "large-scale weapons and movements across"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "the world in time for a real battle. You"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "want to know what the United States gets"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "out of it? They get to burn through old"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "surplus weaponry and test experimental"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "weaponry on an active battlefield. Why"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "is that beneficial to the United States?"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "Because our real threat is 7,000 miles"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "away. Yep. And if we don't get a chance"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "to practice pro a protracted war a"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "halfway across the globe, then we're"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "going to get caught with our pants down"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "when China invades Taiwan. Cuz guess how"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "far away China is from Taiwan? Only 80"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "miles further than Russia was from"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Ukraine. Well, according to one China"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "Danny here, Taiwan's a part of China."}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "That's not one China Danny. That's one"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "China Biden, too. I'm pretty sure."}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "Sleepy Sleepy Joe's got a big meeting on"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "Tuesday. This will all go away. Don't"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "don't don't worry. Don't fret. He's got"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "it under control. Isn't China already"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "shooting [\u00a0__\u00a0] missiles towards"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "Taiwan? Absolutely. That's they're"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "showing they're showing what their"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "capability is. What happened a few weeks"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "ago with maybe a month ago now? I think"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "I think it's been a while, but the there"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "was the Communist Party meeting in China"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "and you had I forget the [\u00a0__\u00a0] guy's"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "name at all. Yeah, that he was like this"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "old dude sitting next to Giinping and"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "then like security came in and like"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "started yanking his ass out of the chair"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "and G's just sitting. That was like the"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "ultimate like, \"Yeah, sorry fam.\" Like,"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "\"Don't know what's going on.\" Like,"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "\"What happened there?\" Historians and"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "politicians, I'm sorry, historians and"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "political scientists around the world"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "cringe when Julian talks about World"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "International,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "this [\u00a0__\u00a0] old guy sitting there. And"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "this guy gets ripped off. It's on Tik"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "Tok and he turned around. Somewhere"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "there's a He puts a new school spin on"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "it. He does. Somewhere there. I've never"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "heard anybody who knows more about the"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "CIA and the FBI and the US government"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "than Julian. I swear to God. There's a"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "there's a there's a Harvard professor"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "somewhere sitting there like, I made a"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "career out of studying political science"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "so that this guy could call Huent some"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "old guy. Imagine David Sadder sitting"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "across from me 50 years like Financial"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "Times like Moscow correspondent. I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "saying [\u00a0__\u00a0] like this. He's like, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "gotcha.\""}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "But anyway, yeah. What happened? Jim,"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "I'm doing a bunch of talk. So, if you"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "want I'm jumping in, man. I'm I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "listening. I'm learning. I don't want to"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "stop. I'm learning. You know me. It's"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "just all about figure this out. We never"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "done four like There's never been Has"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "there ever been a podcast with FBI and"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "CIA the same table? Right before 911."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "I'm only kidding. It didn't happen. It"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "did not happen. It did not happen. This"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "is good. We're We're actually setting"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "the mark here. We're bringing high water"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "mark right here, boys. That's going to"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "get clipped. One step at a time. One"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "step at a time. Oh my god. That's going"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "to be in documentaries 10 years from"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "now. Yeah, it is. Lord. But no, in all"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "honesty, I do think this is a pretty"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "cool pairing. Like really cool. This is"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "something that probably I'm honestly it"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "could probably never happen if we were"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "active CIA, active DoD or active FBI"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "because there would be so much"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "bureaucracy to get through. Somebody"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "would say no. It'd be too high risk. The"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "editing would be outrageous. The"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "ownership rights would be outrageous. I"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "mean, publicly you guys aren't active,"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "but you know, privately. Yeah. According"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "to the comments, you guys are you guys"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "are both still active. Did you get a"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "description of the old guy that got"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "ripped out of the chair? That might have"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "been me. No, I'm gonna kill him. No, he"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "was he was Asian. Who was the guy that"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "got who was the guy that got ripped out"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "of the chair? So that his name was Huent"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "Towel. So who can we find that? Yeah."}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "What you what you saw? You speak"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Chinese, too. So you were definitely"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "listening. My Chinese is rusty. If you"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "can imagine like like cobwebs in an"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "attic kind of thing. That's what my"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "Chinese keeping up. How long did it take"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "you to learn Chinese? Uh technically it"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "took me four years to speak at a fifth"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "grade level. Okay. So yeah, the military"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "taught me for a long time and it never"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "got very good. Where were you? Monterey."}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "No, I was actually at the Air Force"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "Academy. Yeah. All right. Monteray is"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "the best lang. I asked for Monterey, but"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "yeah, but that's out of budget. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "No, the uh so what you saw with it's"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "called the the the party congress. You"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "saw the I think it was the 20th party"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "congress. It's a party congress that"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "happens or maybe been the 50th, but it"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "happens every two years, every 10 years."}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "Yeah. Do we have the video? We should"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "pull up the video, too. Um, there's so"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "much video it's going to be hard to find"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "a Google. The Jerusalem Post. Yeah. Very"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "reliable. Very reliable source right"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "there. Is it? No. Not even close."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "It might as well just be called Israel's"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "always right. The world is always wrong"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "post. Wow. Wow. But this is how it"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "happened. The rest of you are stupid."}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "See you at the club. See you at the"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "club. But yeah, what what's what you're"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "seeing happen between China right now"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "and the West, right? Let's just"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "collectively call it the west is"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "Xiinping is correctly realizing that"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "this is this is a time to demonstrate"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "unity and power in the east because the"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "west is struggling under democracy."}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "Right? You've got NATO arguing with it"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "with each other's members. You've got uh"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "you've got Hungary, a NATO partner"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "altogether uh actively trying to propose"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "that Russia should be left alone, right?"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "Like you've got internal conflict in"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "NATO. You have the disaster of what our"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "of what our midterm elections just"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "turned into, right? Basically, how so?"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "Another gridlock, a gridlock, continued"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "gridlock with with transfer of power"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "looking like it's most likely going to"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "go to the Republicans in Congress, which"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "means the purse strings of the"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "government are going to get tied down."}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "So, you know, blue Senate, blue"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "executive, a red Congress, that just"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "means money's getting tight. Yep. It"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "doesn't mean that we're going to start"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "getting along. If anything, it means"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "we're as divided as we've ever been and"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "and these elections are showing that"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "it's right down the middle. So, it"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "doesn't matter. So, what Xiinping wants"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "to do is he knows that the win for the"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "for China and the win for Chinese"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "influence around the world is to show"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "that China can get stuff done where the"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "West can't even figure out their own"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "backyard. But why is he taking a senior"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "citizen out of like the the nursing"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "home? Because Jin Tao is the only other"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "person that carries anywhere near as"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "much influence as Xiinping."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "He doesn't look like he know he knows"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "what he ate for lunch today. Yeah. No."}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "Don't Don't mistake the way that an old"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "man looks. He sat in she's seat before"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "she sat there. Look at this. Look at"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "look at she's face. That is the ultimate"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "like throw some sunglasses on him with a"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "cigarette and say, \"Not in here, bitch.\""}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "He's like, \"Oh, yeah.\" So, this is also"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "important because if you watch"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "So, if you get No, he's not resisting."}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "He's just He's just an old guy. He's"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "asking questions. You see him keep"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "reaching for that sheet of paper. He's"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "trying to ask Listen up, Julian. 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And they're all essentially"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "demonstrating their defer their deferral"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "to Xiinping. This is a clear message to"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "the world that Xiinping is the"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "consolidated source of power in China"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "and that they are unified behind"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "Xiinping. So what happened to him? Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "we don't know. We don't know what is"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "probably nothing. I mean the dude's the"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "dude is a legend in China. He's probably"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "living in some nice pagota up in the"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "mountains just being left alone. All"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "right. He got a nice retirement package."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "They gave him pebble. He's too big to"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "like too big to just be disappeared. Too"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "important to be disappeared. But could"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "you imagine that ever happening here?"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "No. Imagine somebody walking Sleepy Joe"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "out. He'd go the wrong way. Oh my gosh."}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "So that guy's equivalent to like what?"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "He's equivalent to Xinping before she"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Yeah. He was when Bush was around and"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "and Obama's first. Yeah. He's he's the"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "guy that essentially modernized China,"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "brought China into the fold of world"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "superpowers. 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Our military"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "recruitment crisis right now. Exactly."}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "We can't We actually lowered our"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "standard by 10,000 and missed the the"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "quota by 15,000. We're not even getting"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "new soldiers into our military. We can't"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "do it. We can't find. And what they say"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "is, well, we don't really want the kid"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "with, you know, some type of indictment"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "or some type of misdemeanor because you"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "just don't know that. Listen, we have no"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "choice. Like I said, lowered it lowered"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "it by 10,000, missed it by 15. That this"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "has never happened ever, ever in the"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "history of the military. So what do we"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "do now? So then you got people talking"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "about, well, we should have, you know, a"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "two week service after high school. And"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "then you go, come on, are you [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "crazy? 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And so"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "whatever's done there and obviously we"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "can only imagine what's done in order to"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "keep that in place and it's a high drive"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "you know the culture is a high drive"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "culture want to succeed want to do more"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "um want to come to the states study at"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "our Ivy League universities do the"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "things that they do and it just carries"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "over into I I would love to know what"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "that guy was trying to put forward what"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "was he asking"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "we'll never find that out that's true"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "right the reason that you see me jump"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "right to China is because of three main"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "things right First, we spent 20 years,"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "just like Jim was saying, we spent 20"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "years fighting a global war on"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "terrorism. 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Now, here's"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "so that let's move on to point number"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "two. And watching our mistakes by the"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "watching what we did wrong. Whenever you"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "go down into a mine, right? Back in the"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "day, miners used to take what was it? A"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "parrot. A parrot. Canary. Canary. Yep."}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "They used to take a canary down into a"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "mine, right? And the reason And it was"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "because the canary when the canary bit"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "the dust, that's how they would know"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "that there wasn't enough oxygen to keep"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "the miners alive so they could get out."}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "Our canary is Australia."}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "Australia knows that. They've been our"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "canary for a long time. So guess what"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "happened about four years ago?"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "Australia realized that Chinese were"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "sending Chinese students, Chinese"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "professors, Chinese mining experts into"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "Australia specifically to undermine"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "Australian politics, Australian student"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "uh uh mindset and ideology. Mission"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "accomplished. And guess who Australia's"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "most important exporter uh export import"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "partner is? China. And they were so"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "upset. The Australians, God love them,"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "because they're just a fearless bunch of"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "savages sometimes. They were like, \"We"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "caught you, China. We're gonna let the"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "whole world know we caught you, and"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "we're gonna penalize you.\" Even though"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "they know that penalizing China means"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "penalizing themselves, right? So,"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Australia's been in this battle with the"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "Chinese for like the last 5 years. But"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "why were they the most totalitarian in"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "the in the lens of what China was trying"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "to do with when the pandemic just kept"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "going on and on? Don't you're you're"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "distract distracted. Yeah, that's an"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "offshoot that's not relevant to your"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "first question. Okay. Right. So, we have"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "our canary. So, my three points, right?"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "First, they didn't participate in the"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "global war and terror. So, they were"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "just they were mastering their future"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "plan because they had a they had a"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "50-year plan, right? Then we have our"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "canary go off go off in Australia. And"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "now the third point, they they are"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "poised to become the world's economic"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "superpower by 2032."}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "Economics is the re is what drives"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "everything in in human existence. Right?"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "The more money you make, the more money"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "you can spend developing weapons, the"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "more military you can build, the more"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "everybody else wants to be your friend"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "because you have the most money. What"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "made the United States the econ the"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "superpower that we are? Economics. Our"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "economics are starting to fall behind"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "Chinese economics. China knows that. So,"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "they're very focused on becoming the"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "world's economic superpower. And once"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "they're the economic superpower, then"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "it's very, very hard for us to catch up"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "after that, which is why you see the"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "race kicking up. Now, Trump Trump kind"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "of called attention to it, but the world"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "hated Trump, so the world was kind of"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "not open to his point of view. But one"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "of the only policies that carried on"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "from the Trump administration into the"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "Biden administration were the China"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "policies. Yes, I'm seeing that a lot."}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "Freedom."}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "Freedom."}]

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Uh like a pig or a pig's"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "head is really significant. You know,"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "it's like puco. A lot of the times too,"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "people will in Guadalara even when"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "people take out hits, they'll leave a"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "pig's head on top of that person. It"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "would be the last video for Marquez, a"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "rising online star in Mexico with nearly"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "200,000 followers between Instagram and"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "Tik Tok. Now, Mexico's president,"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "Claudia Shine Bomb,"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "vowing justice. 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It's Thursday"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "morning, 7:00 a.m., and we woke up to"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "quite a few murders today."}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "I'm standing right in front of the port"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "of Vancouver. This is a hot spot for"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "fentinel precursor trafficking and"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "fentinel trafficking."}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "Uh we have armed police. They're ready"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "for um sort of riot patrol. 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[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "By now,"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "maybe you've seen the interview with the"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "vice president of Taiwan."}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "Couple takeaways from that one. If China"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "does invade Taiwan and the US doesn't"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "intervene,"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "here's what would happen. We would lose"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "all credibility in that side of the"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "world. You've heard me talk about bricks"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "for years."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "Brazil, Russia, India, China, South"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "Africa, several other countries are"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "involved now. And what they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "do is take the US currency away from the"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "world's reserve currency, which would be"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "extremely detrimental. Now, how would"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "they do that? Well, if we didn't"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "intervene, it would show weakness, and"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "they would demand all the other"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "countries in that part of the world to"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "use the Chinese yen as their primary"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "trading currency. Number two, if they"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "took the chip factories,"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "that would put China is the most"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "technologically advanced country in the"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "world, making them the biggest"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "superpower. On top of that, all the rest"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "of the world would lose access to the"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "high-end semiconductor chips."}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "If they did that, that would throw us"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "years behind and we may never catch up"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "technologically."}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "That would mean once again China"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "is the most technologically advanced"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "superpower"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "and likely the only superpower"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "left in the world. It would take us"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "years"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "to catch up to that."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "I don't think any of us want that."}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "I'd love to tell you where we're at"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "right now,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "but you'll find out soon."}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "Cheers."}]

[{"end": "00:00:03", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "Scott Nolan, welcome to the show, man."}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Thanks for having me. Excited to be"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "here. Yeah, I'm excited to have you."}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "I've been, you know, I've been really"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "interested in the energy grid. I think I"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "I started looking into that probably"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "about 2 years ago. And now I'm terrified"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "at the US's grid and and and our power"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "consumption versus how much power we"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "actually produce and how we're relying"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "on China for all these things. And so"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "with what you're doing with enriching"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "uranium and and being involved in"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "nuclear energy, I'm just fascinated in"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "the subject. And so yeah, thank you for"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "coming. So it's going to be uh very"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "educational for me. Yeah, thanks for"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "having me. This is a really important"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "topic which we'll get into but um you"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "know our company's mission is to restore"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "US leadership in enrichment to restore"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "US leadership in nuclear energy because"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "that's what we see as the future of the"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "grid the future of US growth um power"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "growth and we'll get into all the"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "geopolitical reasons why that's really"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "important. Perfect. Perfect. Everybody"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "starts with an introduction right. So"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "here we go. Scott Nolan, CEO of General"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "Matter, the American enrichment company"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "enriching uranium in the US to fill"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "nuclear to fill the nuclear gap. Former"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "SpaceX engineer who helped develop the"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "original Falcon propulsion system and"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "Dragon capsule subsystem. You worked"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "with NASA to return US cargo capability"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "to the space station. 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Quite"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "the background. So, couple things uh we"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "just got to knock out real quick. One is"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "everybody gets a gift."}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "Thank you. Vigilance Elite Gummy Bears."}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "Awesome. Legal in all 50 states."}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "Perfect. Made in the USA. Thank you."}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "Yeah. You're welcome. Um you know, it's"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "bad for him to show up empty-handed. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "man. Love the presents. I knew I knew"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "you may give some gummy bears. So, what"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "I brought is a replica of the Thumper"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "from the Dune movie if you've seen it."}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "So, we can get into why this is relevant"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "later. Oh, man. That's awesome. Thank"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "you. Yeah. Yeah. The quick version is if"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "you've if you've seen Dune, if you've"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "seen Dune 2, you know that the Thumper"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "calls in the worm, and the worm is what"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "makes the spice. And in that movie, in"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "that society, the spice powers all these"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "different things like space travel and"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "um so it's this really really important"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "element basically and house of trades is"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "sent to this planet to go mine it um you"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "know to continue continue progress of"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "their civilization. So we we view there"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "as being a bunch of analogies there with"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "uranium and uranium refinement or"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "enrichment. I can see that. Thank you."}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "Yeah, that's awesome."}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "last thing then we'll get into it. So, I"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "have a a Patreon account. It's a"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "subscription account that we've turned"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "into a community. They've been here"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "since the beginning"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "and uh when I started this thing in my"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "attic,"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "excuse me. And uh they're still with us"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "today. And so, they've been just"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "extremely supportive of me and they're"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "the reason I get to be here with you. So"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "one of the things I do is I offer them"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "the opportunity to ask each and every"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "guest a question. So this is from Dylan"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "Stockman."}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "You invest in a lot of others. Who is"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "someone who you've invested in"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "financially or not that enhance the"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "trajectory of your life?"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "There's probably been a bunch um"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "direct impact on me. It's going to be"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "hard to not say Elon. So Founders, you"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "know, first I worked for Elon at SpaceX,"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "did a few other things and then joined"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "Founders Fund and Founders Fund invested"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "in SpaceX, invested in um Neurolink,"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "invested in Boring Company. 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So I'm a customer"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "directly impacted me founders fund"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "investment. So that's perfect to go"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "with. There's a follow- on question"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "also. Do you believe a person with"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "financial backing can outperform a"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "driven a driven individual with less"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "capital? I think the driven individual"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "with less capital wins. I think so, too."}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "That's cool to hear."}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "All right. You ready to get into the"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "interview? Let's do it. Me, too, man."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "So, I just want to start off with a"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "question."}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "Like I said, I've dove into the energy"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "grid, where these trans where the"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "transformers come from, where the solar"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "panels come from. I mean, there's this"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "big debate on, you know, clean energy"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "and renewables and fossil fuels and and"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "I just I don't understand why we're not"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "taking nuclear more seriously. Or maybe"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "we are, you know, with the with the the"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "new administration, although it's only"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "been 6 months. But but it just it seems"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "like it's the cleanest. It's packs the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "most punch. It's the most sustainable. I"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "mean, and and that's, you know, I don't"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "know much about the energy industry, but"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "I mean, from everything I've read, that"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "seems to be true. So why why aren't we"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "taking this more seriously? I think we"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "are now. That's the good news. 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We can get get into why that"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "is. Yeah. Why is that?"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "So I think you had this environment"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "where"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "I mean we we could be leaps and bounds"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "ahead of where we are right now in"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "everything had we taken you know our our"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "our energy a lot more seriously. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "If you look at the grid our production"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "has been pretty flat since 2010. In that"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "time frame China's doubled their grid"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "and they were the same same as us in"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "2010. So they're now twice as big. So"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "that just shows you 15 years you can you"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "can double your grid if you want to. Um"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "and electricity production is highly"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "linked to GDP. And so if you want to"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "grow your GDP, you grow energy"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "production. You do things with that"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "energy. Um we could be far far ahead of"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "where we are. But you know what's the"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "what's the best time to plant a tree?"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "It's like 20 years ago or or today. So I"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "think finally people are coming around"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "to the fact that we need to grow the"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "grid. We need to do it with clean clean"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "sources. scalable sources, reliable, and"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "that's just nuclear. And so I' I'd say"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "it was in the last couple years that"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "politically there's been support for"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "nuclear both under this administration"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "and bunch of recent actions that are"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "going to be very helpful as well as the"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "prior administration. Um and so we're"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "finally seeing that unblock. The prior"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "administration was into nuclear as well."}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "Yeah, there was support for it. I didn't"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "know that. Yeah, it's um couple years"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "ago really started"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "pushing on nuclear as something that"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "needed to happen. So there was a large"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "desire for these new advanced reactors"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "that are even safer um than existing"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "ones. Existing ones are already the"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "safest form of base load energy, but"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "even safer, smaller, easier to"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "construct, hopefully much cheaper."}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "So there was a push around that starting"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "a few years ago. And in 2024, the last"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "administration created a program for uh"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "availability of that fuel for those"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "reactors cuz all those reactors have no"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "source of fuel right now other than uh"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "foreign adversaries. And so we don't"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "produce that fuel in the US. So the last"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "administration did realize that and said"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "we need to create programs to encourage"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "US companies to actually make this fuel."}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "since that was something that happened"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "in 2024 that um we we are now a part of"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "that program but it's getting even more"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "support under current administration."}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "There's been recent executive orders a"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "couple weeks ago that dealt with nuclear"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "by this administration that's going to"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "further accelerate things. So it's been"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "become totally bipartisan the last"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "couple years. I mean do you think do you"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "think it's the fear of nuclear we like"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "is it a misconception between nuclear"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "weapons and nuclear power? Yes. that"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "that that"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "has created the setback. I think there's"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "there's two things. There's the fear of"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "weapons. There's also the fear of"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "accidents."}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "But if you look at the, you know, most"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "famous US accident, 3M Island,"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "no one actually died from 3M Island from"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "radiation exposure, from anything else."}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "What happened there? Uh, so good good"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "question. And so 3M Island was a famous"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "uh meltdown that happened in the US in"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "uh in Pennsylvania. And so there were"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "two reactors on 3M island, an island of"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "land um in a river and a series of"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "operator mistakes caused one of them to"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "have a meltdown. Um and what that means"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "is the fuel overheated. there was, you"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "know, some issues caused by that and"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "then potentially some um the fear of a"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "meltdown is that you get some radiation"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "leakage, but you have containment"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "vessels that contain all these things."}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "And that's where a lot of the cost from"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "nuclear comes from is making sure that"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "in no circumstance can any radioactive"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "material ever release from the facility."}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "And so three-mile island um one of the"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "reactors shut uh shut down melted"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "partial meltdown"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "due to human error series of human error"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "that due to process controls would not"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "occur today. But even so this thing that"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "people view as this crazy disaster and I"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "think it happened right after a movie"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "came out called the China syndrome which"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "was about a nuclear meltdown. So this"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "movie came out and right after this"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "accident happened and just drove the US"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "into a state of fear about nuclear that"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "lasted decades. And so fast forward to"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "today, one of those reactors is still"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "out of commission, but the other one"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "Microsoft is planning to turn back on to"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "power AI. No kidding. So they renamed"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "Three Mile Island to Crane uh Crane"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "Energy Center, I believe. And so one of"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "those reactors is going to come back. So"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "this thing that people really worry"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "about, they site three-mile island, they"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "cite accidents. Hey, nuclear can't be"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "safe. Nuclear is extremely safe. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "the safest form base load. And even the"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "worst accident in the US history, which"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "was caused by human error that would not"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "occur today and can't occur with the"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "more advanced reactors, even that one"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "result in z in zero deaths. And so by"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "not building nuclear, we instead did"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "lots of other stuff. We did coal,"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "natural gas, wind, solar, all those"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "things we need, but uh none of them are"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "as safe as nuclear. Yeah. Well, I mean"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "do you think that do you think any of"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "the setbacks are you know big oil and"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "gas industry and"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "I mean I don't blame them. I think I"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "think the fossil fuels industry, oil and"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "gas have been doing what they've you"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "know they're on their mission. Let's"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "have US energy independence. Let's, you"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "know, pull from the natural gas reserves"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "we have. Natural gas being half the"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "carbon output of of other types of"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "fossil fuels. And so, you know, that's"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "that's been a big part of how the US"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "actually reduced its carbon emissions"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "the last few years was was natural gas."}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "So, I think those companies are just"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "laser focused on what they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "do. I think the fact that nuclear has"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "not become bigger is a US policy"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "decision and it's the nuclear industry"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "um maybe not pushing hard enough for for"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "progress really defending themselves"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "because there's a lot of great people in"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "nuclear who have believed in nuclear for"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "decades and diligently worked away at it"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "and it should be much bigger than it is."}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "Can you"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "help the audience understand how much we"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "could advance, you know, talk about the"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "how important energy is in everyday"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "society and and especially with, you"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "know, with the AI boom hang uh happening"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "right now and all the data centers that"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "we need and how much power that's going"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "to consume. I mean, can can you go into"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "that a little bit on on how important"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "this actually is? Yeah, just to so set"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "the stage overall if we just talk about"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "the US, US has 94 reactors operating"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "produce 97 gawatt call it 100 gawatt of"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "electricity and that's roughly 18 1.5%"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "of our grid energy production."}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "in terms of how big this could be, I"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "think total, so you know, call it 5x"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "that for the overall grid average"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "production. And then total installed"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "production capacity in the US is like"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "1,250 gawatt."}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "So a lot of that's not operating all the"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "time. That's like peaker plants. It"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "might be wind, solar. Not everything is"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "base load."}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "And then just to calibrate"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "internationally, US and China neck"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "andneck in 2010 on production capacity"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "on the grid. Since then, China doubled."}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "By the end of the decade, it'll triple."}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "So you can double and triple the grid if"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "you want to. They've done a lot of that"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "through nuclear, but much more with"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "coal. And so other countries are"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "expanding and they're doing it not in"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "the cleanest way. 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So the rest of through AI"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "growth through new nuclear that might"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "happen at those sites, we should see"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "rates actually come down over time and"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "production go up. And so it's the usual"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "like innovation cycle where in theory,"}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "if we're just thinking about the world"}, {"end": "00:24:17", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "as a a fixed sum, zero sum game, the pie"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "is only so big."}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:17", "text": "Things get worse when you have more"}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "demand. But in reality, as you develop"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "new technologies to meet this demand,"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "you're going to see things get better."}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "Let's talk about your company."}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "Yeah. So companies general matter. What"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "we're doing is enriching uranium to make"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "nuclear fuel for these reactors. The"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "reason we're doing that is the US"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "currently does not have a significant"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "amount of uranium enrichment or fuel"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "production. So the US US cannot"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "currently produce its own nuclear fuel"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "in any quantity beyond R&D quantities."}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "Are you serious?"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "So where do we get it from? So currently"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "we uh we get all of our so there's five"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "steps in making fuel. You have to mine"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "it out of the ground. You then turn it"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "into a gas for enrichment. You then"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "enrich it which is just it's essentially"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "a refining process. So enrichment is"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "separating the element of uranium into"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "its two couple different types based on"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "its isotope which is how many neutrons"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "it has. So it's really a refining"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "separation process. So a lot of people"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "hear in Richmond and they think okay"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "this sounds dangerous or sounds like"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "there's going to be a lot of radiation"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "or there's going to be some sort of"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "dangerous chemical reactions. It's"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "actually just separation. So we don't"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "even have any you know in a enrichment"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "plant there's no nuclear reactions"}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "happening. You're not making anything go"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "critical is what they call when there's"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "a chain reaction and there's no chemical"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "reactions. You are doing phase change."}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "You're taking some material from a solid"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "to a gas, but you're just separating it."}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "So that's the middle step that the US"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "doesn't currently do. We'll talk more"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "about that. And then you bring it back"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "down into a solid, which is called"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "deconversion."}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "And then you form it into a pellet or a"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "particle, a pebble, whatever form the"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "reactor needs. That's called fuel"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "fabrication. So these five steps, the US"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "has mining. We have mining in Texas,"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "uh, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado. So there's"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "mining. Canada has mining a lot, you"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "know, a lot of mining for uranium and"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "Australia has great deposits as well. So"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "US and its allies have plenty of"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "uranium. On conversion, we have one"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "conversion facility in the US that's"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "operating in Illinois and then Canada"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "has one too. Um that's again going from"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "solid to gas. But enrichment the US has"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "no commercially operating capability. So"}, {"end": "00:27:00", "start": "00:26:55", "text": "we get all of our enrichment from"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "foreign companies which are statebacked"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "entities. Most of it's overseas. So"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "that's uh we get we get enriched uranium"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "product from Russia, from France and"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "from a European consortium of a couple"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "countries that produce. And then that"}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "consortium at the request of US"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "utilities built a facility in the US to"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "produce some of what we need but it's"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "still less than a third. So twothirds"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "comes from overseas one/3 produced by"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "foreign a foreign company in the US"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "using their technology. And then on the"}, {"end": "00:27:35", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "on the downstream side of making the"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "pellets"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:35", "text": "good capability in the US for doing that"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "right now. some of the more advanced uh"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "forms of like little pellets that are"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "maybe poppy poppy seed size called"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "trico. It's got some ceramic coatings"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "around it that Did you say poppy seed"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "size? Yeah, they're poppy seed size. So,"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "um to get into the details of some of"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "the fuel forms, there was a type of fuel"}, {"end": "00:28:01", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "that was developed decades ago and"}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "tested for a really long time. Um, so"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:01", "text": "it's it's been proven to be really"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:03", "text": "robust, but you take a tiny piece of"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "uranium and you coat it with ceramic."}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "And that ceramic means that even in the"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "worst case scenario where your reactor"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "somehow disintegrates, these little"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "pellets are self-contained. So they"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "can't even release any radioactive gas."}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "So it's another layer of safety on top."}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "So a bunch of the advanced reactor types"}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "are doing that. But if we zoom out, you"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "know, for to really have domestic"}, {"end": "00:28:33", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "capability, you need all the steps. And"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "so the step that's missing right now is"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:33", "text": "enrichment."}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "And that's why we're working on"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "enrichment. Why why don't we have"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "enrichment right now? We used to have"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "enrichment. Um global map of enrichment"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "right now, Russia's about half. Europe's"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "about 40%."}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "China's roughly 10%. Growing really"}, {"end": "00:28:57", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "fast. So the 10% was a couple years ago."}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "It's it's north of that now in the US"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:57", "text": "just in terms of how much total"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "enrichment we're doing it's less than"}, {"end": "00:29:06", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "0.1%."}, {"end": "00:29:09", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "And so you ask how did we get here? Um"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:06", "text": "these these things are usually it's you"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:09", "text": "know it's usually over constrained."}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "There's a bunch of reasons why we got"}, {"end": "00:29:17", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "here. We didn't think we needed it. We"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "thought maybe nuclear isn't growing"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:17", "text": "anymore. It's fine. We have these"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "reactors. Up until a couple years there"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "wasn't agreement that we needed more"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "reactors."}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "And so why build a bunch of new capacity"}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "in the US for enriching if we're not"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "going to build a b bunch more reactors?"}, {"end": "00:29:35", "start": "00:29:30", "text": "We can just get this stuff from we can"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "get enriched uranium from our allies in"}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:35", "text": "Europe and you know other countries as"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "well. And if you rewind to the history"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "of this in the 50s the US built a bunch"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "of enrichment. This was you know cold"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "war era. We were the world leader in"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "enrichment. We had these plants spread"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "out throughout the country that used an"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "old technique that was expensive. It was"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "required a lot of energy to do it, but"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "we were we had the most capacity. And we"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "built up a lot of enriched uranium that"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "we stockpiled. And those stockpiles, we"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "knew they would last a really long time,"}, {"end": "00:30:15", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "you know, decades and decades. And so"}, {"end": "00:30:17", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "with the fall of the Berlin Wall, we"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:15", "text": "said, let's start trading with our"}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:17", "text": "former enemies. We're allies now. We can"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "work together. free trade's good for the"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "world and we can get this product"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "elsewhere. And so over the next couple"}, {"end": "00:30:32", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "decades um we move towards free trade"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "and imports and decommission those old"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:32", "text": "facilities"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "assuming that that would be a fine thing"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "to rely on with a bunch of different"}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "partners. But now we're in a position"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "where we need to grow nuclear energy."}, {"end": "00:30:46", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "And if you look at how much enrichment"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "the US is going to need right now we"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:46", "text": "produce less than a third of what we"}, {"end": "00:30:55", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "need. And the the administration a"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "couple weeks ago said we are going to"}, {"end": "00:31:00", "start": "00:30:55", "text": "quadruple our nuclear energy by 2050. So"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "now we went from producing a third of"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "what we need less than a third to less"}, {"end": "00:31:09", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "than a 12th. And so we need to create a"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "massive amount of new nuclear reactor"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:09", "text": "builds. We have 94 now. We got to"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "quadruple that. And the fuel production"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "we need to to increase much more than"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "that."}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "How much when you're talking about a"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "poppy seed? Mhm. I mean that's like"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "nothing. How much energy does that"}, {"end": "00:31:31", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "produce?"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "So a a pellet roughly an inch tall of"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:31", "text": "conventional enriched uranium"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "that one pellet"}, {"end": "00:31:42", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "which roughly like cocaine dimensions"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "just shrunk down to 1 in tall would"}, {"end": "00:31:49", "start": "00:31:42", "text": "contain as much energy as"}, {"end": "00:31:52", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "a ton of coal or 100 barrels of oil."}, {"end": "00:31:56", "start": "00:31:49", "text": "Wow. And yeah, that's that's also if"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:52", "text": "that that pellet is conventional uh"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:56", "text": "nuclear fuel, which is about 5%"}, {"end": "00:32:01", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "enriched."}, {"end": "00:32:03", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "And when you run that through, most of"}, {"end": "00:32:05", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "the energy is still in there. So you you"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "put it in, you know, the way that"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:05", "text": "nuclear reactors work is you have"}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "uranium inside."}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "The fizzile material is uranium 235."}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "you get uranium 235 in proximity to"}, {"end": "00:32:21", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "itself and it starts releasing neutrons"}, {"end": "00:32:22", "start": "00:32:19", "text": "which create heat and it forms a chain"}, {"end": "00:32:25", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "reaction. These chain reactions are"}, {"end": "00:32:27", "start": "00:32:22", "text": "controlled in reactors through the"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:25", "text": "control rods that they have through"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:27", "text": "water in the vessel. And so it just it's"}, {"end": "00:32:36", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "basically a heat generator and you take"}, {"end": "00:32:38", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "the heat traditionally you boil water um"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:36", "text": "you either do that directly, you know,"}, {"end": "00:32:41", "start": "00:32:38", "text": "all the rods are sitting in water and so"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "they're making heat, the water is"}, {"end": "00:32:45", "start": "00:32:41", "text": "heating up. You can either keep that"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "really pressurized like a pressure"}, {"end": "00:32:49", "start": "00:32:45", "text": "cooker and exchange the heat and run a"}, {"end": "00:32:51", "start": "00:32:47", "text": "steam turbine outside or you can"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:49", "text": "actually just let the water boil and use"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "the steam there to power to power"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "turbines directly. So that's how"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "reactors work. And"}, {"end": "00:33:03", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "like a really simple analogy I give is"}, {"end": "00:33:06", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "it's almost like a compost heap. It's"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:03", "text": "like you know food scraps and yard waste"}, {"end": "00:33:09", "start": "00:33:06", "text": "spread out isn't going to do anything."}, {"end": "00:33:12", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "Mhm. But you pile it enough, you start"}, {"end": "00:33:14", "start": "00:33:09", "text": "getting some heat production. And that's"}, {"end": "00:33:15", "start": "00:33:12", "text": "essentially what a reactor is doing is"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:14", "text": "except it's doing it with a much"}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:15", "text": "different type of reaction. It's a"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "nuclear reaction and it's doing it with"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "uranium. And so that's how every reactor"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "works. It's just fuel held in some"}, {"end": "00:33:29", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "configuration with some element of"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "control over how much heat's produced"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:29", "text": "and some coolant that's around it. Wow."}, {"end": "00:33:39", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "So one one little 1 in pellet is"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "equivalent to a ton of coal or 100"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:39", "text": "barrels of oil. Yep. That's also"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "enriched at conventional levels 5%. So"}, {"end": "00:33:50", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "the big reactors we see today, the ones"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "with the, you know, the Homer Simpson"}, {"end": "00:33:57", "start": "00:33:50", "text": "reactors, the ones with the huge cooling"}, {"end": "00:34:00", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "towers, those run on 5% fuel. 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If you're talking"}, {"end": "00:34:29", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "about the advanced reactors, a lot of"}, {"end": "00:34:31", "start": "00:34:27", "text": "them want to go to 10%. Or just under"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:29", "text": "20%. Because you're going to get that"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:31", "text": "much more energy density. Your reactor"}, {"end": "00:34:38", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "core can get smaller or you might not"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "have to refuel it as much because you"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:38", "text": "can just let it run all the way further"}, {"end": "00:34:45", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "down as it burns up. And so that makes"}, {"end": "00:34:47", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "economics better. 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So"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:11", "text": "how are you enriching?"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "How did you get into this anyways? Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "good question. It's not not something"}, {"end": "00:35:20", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "people really wake up one morning and"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "say I want to do enrichment of uranium."}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:20", "text": "It's pretty esoteric industry. Um,"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "for me, the background was, you know,"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "I'd worked at SpaceX early on and seen"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "what it looks like when people just stop"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "doing something and completely lose the"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "capability. And, you know, in SpaceX's"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "example,"}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "I was always in I was aerospace. I"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "always wanted to do aerospace, rockets,"}, {"end": "00:35:49", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "airplanes. And during college, I worked"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "at Boeing"}, {"end": "00:35:55", "start": "00:35:49", "text": "and I worked on a big government"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "project. Um, but knew I want, you know,"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:55", "text": "it wasn't moving that fast. We weren't"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:56", "text": "making that much progress."}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "I knew that there was a future that we"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "never had in in space and found out"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "about SpaceX. Went to work there. We"}, {"end": "00:36:10", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "were 30some people and the whole point"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "of SpaceX was let's make humanity a"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:10", "text": "multilanetary species. A lot of people"}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "at the time were really focused on"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "satellites"}, {"end": "00:36:19", "start": "00:36:17", "text": "and saying, \"Okay, there's this"}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "revolution in satellites. They don't"}, {"end": "00:36:22", "start": "00:36:19", "text": "need to be school busiz satellites that"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "are a billion dollars. We can make"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:22", "text": "smaller ones using modern technology."}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "Compute, computer chips, all the things"}, {"end": "00:36:31", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "that are just offtheshelf available"}, {"end": "00:36:33", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "through the electronics industry. Let's"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:31", "text": "put those into satellites and use them.\""}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:33", "text": "And so satellite costs came way down and"}, {"end": "00:36:41", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "satellites got much smaller,"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "but there was still this step of launch."}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:41", "text": "Launch was still bottlenecked, still"}, {"end": "00:36:48", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "super expensive. And so SpaceX's whole"}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "thing was let's bring down the cost of"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:48", "text": "launch. Let's restore US capability at"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "the time 2002"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "um that SpaceX got started. That was"}, {"end": "00:37:00", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "really the focus. And then this became"}, {"end": "00:37:02", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "really urgent with the loss of the space"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:00", "text": "shuttle and the grounding of the space"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:02", "text": "shuttle by the mid 2000s. And so it was"}, {"end": "00:37:09", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "really clear, hey, we need this"}, {"end": "00:37:12", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "capability if we want to have a future"}, {"end": "00:37:15", "start": "00:37:09", "text": "in space. So that SpaceX experience is"}, {"end": "00:37:17", "start": "00:37:12", "text": "really analogous to what what I saw a"}, {"end": "00:37:19", "start": "00:37:15", "text": "couple years ago in nuclear. So post"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:17", "text": "SpaceX did a bunch of other things."}, {"end": "00:37:23", "start": "00:37:19", "text": "Started at Founders Fund in 2011. So"}, {"end": "00:37:26", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "Founders Fund's a venture capital firm"}, {"end": "00:37:28", "start": "00:37:23", "text": "based in San Francisco."}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:26", "text": "big investor in a bunch of companies"}, {"end": "00:37:34", "start": "00:37:28", "text": "including SpaceX,"}, {"end": "00:37:37", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "um, Palunteer, Andreal,"}, {"end": "00:37:39", "start": "00:37:34", "text": "Facebook, um, long list, Airbnb,"}, {"end": "00:37:41", "start": "00:37:37", "text": "Spotify,"}, {"end": "00:37:43", "start": "00:37:39", "text": "but most known for some of these"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:41", "text": "incubations of companies that are"}, {"end": "00:37:47", "start": "00:37:43", "text": "solving big national security problems"}, {"end": "00:37:50", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "like Palanteer and Androl"}, {"end": "00:37:52", "start": "00:37:47", "text": "and spent over a decade there meeting"}, {"end": "00:37:54", "start": "00:37:50", "text": "many different nuclear reactor"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:52", "text": "companies."}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:54", "text": "And in the last couple years, you know,"}, {"end": "00:38:01", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "nuclear companies and other forms of"}, {"end": "00:38:03", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "energy. 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You can't build a huge"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "thing, a thing the size larger than a"}, {"end": "00:38:55", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "factory in a factory. You've got to make"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "small things. And so if we're going to"}, {"end": "00:39:01", "start": "00:38:55", "text": "make the reactor small, we need more"}, {"end": "00:39:03", "start": "00:38:58", "text": "energy dense fuel. How small are they"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:01", "text": "making these reactors? So one company"}, {"end": "00:39:07", "start": "00:39:03", "text": "that Founders Fund invested in makes a"}, {"end": "00:39:10", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "reactor that's fits in a shipping"}, {"end": "00:39:13", "start": "00:39:07", "text": "container. 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So it's a question"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:54", "text": "of there's this range called micro"}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:57", "text": "reactors which is anything from a"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "megawatt"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "to 20 megawws. And so different people"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "have different opinions of how what's"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "the optimal size but you can go as small"}, {"end": "00:40:10", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "as a shipping container and there's"}, {"end": "00:40:13", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "people trying to go smaller for other"}, {"end": "00:40:15", "start": "00:40:10", "text": "applications. Wow."}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:13", "text": "Yeah, that's interesting. So all these"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:15", "text": "all these ones taking the small"}, {"end": "00:40:21", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "approach, they need this more enriched"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "fuel enriched to 20% because we want to"}, {"end": "00:40:25", "start": "00:40:21", "text": "make the small core."}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "And what everyone said was, \"Yeah, we"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:25", "text": "don't have a good source of fuel. We"}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "really need to figure this out.\" And so"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "I would ask, \"Well, where are you going"}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "to get your fuel today?\" And the answer"}, {"end": "00:40:36", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "was, \"Hey, only Russia and China make"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "this fuel. They're the only ones going"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:36", "text": "to 20%.\""}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "And so I would naturally, you know, ask,"}, {"end": "00:40:45", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "why don't why don't the US enrichment"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "companies make this fuel? Is it a lot"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:45", "text": "harder than making the fuel up to 5%,"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "enriching up to 5%."}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "And they would say, what do you mean US"}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "enrichment companies? They're we're not"}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "really enriching in the US. There's"}, {"end": "00:41:00", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "there's people trying to and trying to"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "get commercial going, but we we're not"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:00", "text": "doing it today. And so I spent over a"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "year looking for a company to invest in"}, {"end": "00:41:11", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "at Founders Fund that would that was"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "doing this that could do this that had a"}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:11", "text": "path for bringing the cost down and"}, {"end": "00:41:18", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "bringing production up and regrettably"}, {"end": "00:41:20", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "couldn't find one and said okay what"}, {"end": "00:41:23", "start": "00:41:18", "text": "would it take to getting back to your"}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:20", "text": "question of how did this all start just"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:23", "text": "asked what would it take to start a"}, {"end": "00:41:29", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "company"}, {"end": "00:41:31", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "to go do this and it was you know you"}, {"end": "00:41:33", "start": "00:41:29", "text": "are going to need financial backing"}, {"end": "00:41:37", "start": "00:41:31", "text": "to your to your question of who would"}, {"end": "00:41:40", "start": "00:41:33", "text": "win um a really dedicated passionate"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:37", "text": "founder without much capital or someone"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:40", "text": "with capital a lot of capital and"}, {"end": "00:41:49", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "capital is important for this I'd say"}, {"end": "00:41:51", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "why not have both and so you need the"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:49", "text": "capital you need a great founding team"}, {"end": "00:41:55", "start": "00:41:51", "text": "ideally the team would have both"}, {"end": "00:41:57", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "people from the nuclear industry that's"}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:55", "text": "mandatory you need the best people"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:57", "text": "plucked out of the nuclear industry who"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "are scattered everywhere."}, {"end": "00:42:05", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "That's part one. But part two is you"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "need people from Silicon Valley, the"}, {"end": "00:42:09", "start": "00:42:05", "text": "tech industry, the hardware industry."}, {"end": "00:42:12", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "And this was actually the formula that"}, {"end": "00:42:15", "start": "00:42:09", "text": "Andre used, that Palunteer used, even"}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:12", "text": "SpaceX used. And then part three is you"}, {"end": "00:42:20", "start": "00:42:15", "text": "need a team that can get security"}, {"end": "00:42:22", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "clearances and um is like highly"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:20", "text": "passionate about this problem and has"}, {"end": "00:42:26", "start": "00:42:22", "text": "worked on things before with the"}, {"end": "00:42:28", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "government. And so zooming out, I"}, {"end": "00:42:30", "start": "00:42:26", "text": "realized, wait, that's that's us. We"}, {"end": "00:42:32", "start": "00:42:28", "text": "need to incubate a company. we need to,"}, {"end": "00:42:34", "start": "00:42:30", "text": "you know, pull together the team and"}, {"end": "00:42:36", "start": "00:42:32", "text": "then it felt like I was the right person"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:34", "text": "to run it. And so that's how we got"}, {"end": "00:42:42", "start": "00:42:36", "text": "started. That was 2023 was that process"}, {"end": "00:42:44", "start": "00:42:40", "text": "and then really got going full speed in"}, {"end": "00:42:47", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "2024."}, {"end": "00:42:49", "start": "00:42:44", "text": "How much progress have you guys made?"}, {"end": "00:42:51", "start": "00:42:47", "text": "We've made pretty good progress for, you"}, {"end": "00:42:54", "start": "00:42:49", "text": "know, a year and a half in. At least we"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:51", "text": "feel like we have. So,"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:54", "text": "one of the first things we did was even"}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "before starting the company, we had a"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "lot of conversations with the DOE."}, {"end": "00:43:05", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "Um, you know, going back to that"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "question of what's the best way to start"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:05", "text": "a company, it's it's by understanding if"}, {"end": "00:43:10", "start": "00:43:07", "text": "there's a need. 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They"}, {"end": "00:43:22", "start": "00:43:18", "text": "say that they have to get their fuel"}, {"end": "00:43:24", "start": "00:43:19", "text": "from foreign providers. is that really"}, {"end": "00:43:26", "start": "00:43:22", "text": "the case and the you know DOE would"}, {"end": "00:43:30", "start": "00:43:24", "text": "confirm that yes we currently get all of"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:26", "text": "our enrichment from foreign providers"}, {"end": "00:43:34", "start": "00:43:30", "text": "and we asked is this something that we"}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "should go and try and do is this"}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:34", "text": "something the DOE would be supportive of"}, {"end": "00:43:42", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "because this is a controlled technology"}, {"end": "00:43:44", "start": "00:43:39", "text": "and again same thing yes this would be"}, {"end": "00:43:47", "start": "00:43:42", "text": "good we we could use more people doing"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "this this would be a good thing um we"}, {"end": "00:43:51", "start": "00:43:47", "text": "also talked to the DoD people on our"}, {"end": "00:43:53", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "team were involved in the DoD at the"}, {"end": "00:43:55", "start": "00:43:51", "text": "time and we're looking around saying,"}, {"end": "00:43:57", "start": "00:43:53", "text": "\"Do we have an answer to this fuel"}, {"end": "00:44:00", "start": "00:43:55", "text": "problem?\" And the answer was, \"We have a"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:57", "text": "stockpile, but someday that runs out and"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:44:00", "text": "it would be great if we could get"}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "production going.\""}, {"end": "00:44:06", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "And then we talked to the reactor"}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "companies and not only did they not have"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:06", "text": "a source of enrichment or a source of"}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:08", "text": "fuel at the enrichment levels that they"}, {"end": "00:44:15", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "needed, but they also pointed out, hey,"}, {"end": "00:44:17", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "it's also really expensive at the prices"}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:15", "text": "we're going to have to pay these other"}, {"end": "00:44:19", "start": "00:44:17", "text": "companies."}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "that's going to be more than half our"}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:19", "text": "cost. And so we do want to get the cost"}, {"end": "00:44:26", "start": "00:44:23", "text": "really low and we're going to do the"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "factory builds, but even if we got the"}, {"end": "00:44:30", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "cost of the reactor to zero, we can only"}, {"end": "00:44:34", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "have this unless the fuel cost comes"}, {"end": "00:44:36", "start": "00:44:30", "text": "down. And so that was very similar to"}, {"end": "00:44:39", "start": "00:44:34", "text": "the space industry"}, {"end": "00:44:41", "start": "00:44:36", "text": "2000s where yes, the satellites had"}, {"end": "00:44:43", "start": "00:44:39", "text": "gotten a lot cheaper and smaller, but"}, {"end": "00:44:45", "start": "00:44:41", "text": "the launch cost was still there. 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Let's make nuclear so cheap"}, {"end": "00:45:32", "start": "00:45:25", "text": "and safe and reliable with, you know,"}, {"end": "00:45:34", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "fuel supply chain certainty throughout"}, {"end": "00:45:36", "start": "00:45:32", "text": "that it becomes the dominant form of"}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:34", "text": "energy. So that's the goal. That's how"}, {"end": "00:45:41", "start": "00:45:36", "text": "we got started. Wow."}, {"end": "00:45:43", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "So that it didn't sound it doesn't sound"}, {"end": "00:45:45", "start": "00:45:41", "text": "like he had a ton of red tape government"}, {"end": "00:45:47", "start": "00:45:43", "text": "bureaucracy"}, {"end": "00:45:49", "start": "00:45:45", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] to deal with. 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Do you know where"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "you'll put those facilities? Right now,"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:51", "text": "um, we do we do have a few states that"}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "we're we're deciding between. So, these"}, {"end": "00:48:01", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "are all pro- energy states, pro- nuclear"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "energy states who have taken actions to"}, {"end": "00:48:04", "start": "00:48:01", "text": "prove that they're really really excited"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:03", "text": "about nuclear energy and really want to"}, {"end": "00:48:09", "start": "00:48:04", "text": "do things. 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We're"}, {"end": "00:48:27", "start": "00:48:24", "text": "excited about all of them, but over the"}, {"end": "00:48:29", "start": "00:48:26", "text": "next couple months, we're going to be"}, {"end": "00:48:31", "start": "00:48:27", "text": "making some decisions about which one is"}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:29", "text": "really the first one we go to. How big"}, {"end": "00:48:36", "start": "00:48:31", "text": "will these facilities be? They're the"}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "way to think about it is it's you know"}, {"end": "00:48:39", "start": "00:48:36", "text": "people think about nuclear and they"}, {"end": "00:48:42", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "think of"}, {"end": "00:48:45", "start": "00:48:39", "text": "you know either the the classic cooling"}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:42", "text": "towers with steam coming out. Ours is"}, {"end": "00:48:51", "start": "00:48:45", "text": "going to look very much like a Amazon"}, {"end": "00:48:53", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "warehouse or a data center or like a"}, {"end": "00:48:55", "start": "00:48:51", "text": "pharmaceutical plant that's just a"}, {"end": "00:48:56", "start": "00:48:53", "text": "rectangular building. Gotcha. And the"}, {"end": "00:48:57", "start": "00:48:55", "text": "size of these buildings depends on how"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:56", "text": "much capacity you want but we're talking"}, {"end": "00:49:02", "start": "00:48:57", "text": "a few hundred,000 square feet. So think,"}, {"end": "00:49:04", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "hey, it looks like a big Amazon"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:02", "text": "warehouse and there's a lot of equipment"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:04", "text": "inside, but it's a self-contained thing."}, {"end": "00:49:14", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "I mean, how many I'm I'm just curious"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "how many different You're talking about"}, {"end": "00:49:19", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "poppy seed size with ceramic around."}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:17", "text": "You're talking about inch inch high. I"}, {"end": "00:49:25", "start": "00:49:19", "text": "mean, what's the what's the biggest?"}, {"end": "00:49:28", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "Yeah, the traditional reactors operate"}, {"end": "00:49:30", "start": "00:49:25", "text": "off of these small fuel pellets that are"}, {"end": "00:49:33", "start": "00:49:28", "text": "the inch high ones and then they"}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:30", "text": "assemble those into fuel rods that then"}, {"end": "00:49:38", "start": "00:49:33", "text": "get bunched together and then go into"}, {"end": "00:49:39", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "the reactor. 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There's yeah the the waste that"}, {"end": "00:50:31", "start": "00:50:27", "text": "people talk about is really spent fuel."}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:29", "text": "That's the way to think about it. It's"}, {"end": "00:50:37", "start": "00:50:31", "text": "just hey we took this pellet classically"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "the 1-in tall metal sort of pellet and"}, {"end": "00:50:42", "start": "00:50:37", "text": "we put in the reactor for a while and a"}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "lot of the U235 it reacted. It released"}, {"end": "00:50:47", "start": "00:50:42", "text": "heat. It released neutrons. It's"}, {"end": "00:50:49", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "something else now. And so it decays"}, {"end": "00:50:51", "start": "00:50:47", "text": "into other things. 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And today we just keep"}, {"end": "00:51:15", "start": "00:51:11", "text": "them next to the reactor that they were"}, {"end": "00:51:18", "start": "00:51:13", "text": "operating at, and they they sit there."}, {"end": "00:51:21", "start": "00:51:15", "text": "Um, if you look at all those and you"}, {"end": "00:51:22", "start": "00:51:18", "text": "know there's ways to potentially recycle"}, {"end": "00:51:24", "start": "00:51:21", "text": "some of that spent fuel and get more"}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:22", "text": "energy out of it, which is something"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:24", "text": "people are talking about and thinking"}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "about now, but"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "that would just, you know, that's a"}, {"end": "00:51:34", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "longer conversation about what are the"}, {"end": "00:51:35", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "benefits of that. Even if you don't do"}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:34", "text": "that and you just take these pellets"}, {"end": "00:51:41", "start": "00:51:35", "text": "that we've run through and put to the"}, {"end": "00:51:42", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "side and you put them all together in a"}, {"end": "00:51:45", "start": "00:51:41", "text": "pile,"}, {"end": "00:51:48", "start": "00:51:42", "text": "all the nuclear spent fuel that the US"}, {"end": "00:51:50", "start": "00:51:45", "text": "has generated over the entire history of"}, {"end": "00:51:52", "start": "00:51:48", "text": "nuclear energy, if you put that all into"}, {"end": "00:51:55", "start": "00:51:50", "text": "an Olympic size swimming pool, it would"}, {"end": "00:51:58", "start": "00:51:52", "text": "be half filled. So that's it. That's it."}, {"end": "00:52:01", "start": "00:51:55", "text": "And it's metal. People think of nuclear"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:58", "text": "waste or spent fuel as,"}, {"end": "00:52:04", "start": "00:52:01", "text": "you know, green green ooze that's going"}, {"end": "00:52:08", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "to trickle out and get in the water"}, {"end": "00:52:10", "start": "00:52:04", "text": "supply. These are are spent metal fuel"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:08", "text": "ingots"}, {"end": "00:52:13", "start": "00:52:10", "text": "again that altogether are are only half"}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "the volume of an Olympic size swimming"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:13", "text": "pool. So this is not actually a big"}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "deal. I think the waste issue has been a"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "red herring. I think it's been something"}, {"end": "00:52:24", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "that people bring up who don't want"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "nuclear energy as hey we can't do"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:24", "text": "nuclear energy until we solve the waste"}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "issue and good news there is no waste"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "issue so let's do nuclear energy that's"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "that's my perspective wow there's still"}, {"end": "00:52:39", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "things we could do about waste and"}, {"end": "00:52:42", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "should we store it all together in one"}, {"end": "00:52:44", "start": "00:52:39", "text": "place that's very inert and stable"}, {"end": "00:52:46", "start": "00:52:42", "text": "that's a discussion should we somehow"}, {"end": "00:52:48", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "recycle it and get the remaining energy"}, {"end": "00:52:50", "start": "00:52:46", "text": "out of it because there's still there's"}, {"end": "00:52:53", "start": "00:52:48", "text": "still U23 35 in there. We could still"}, {"end": "00:52:56", "start": "00:52:50", "text": "utilize that energy. Um, that's a"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:53", "text": "conversation. But yeah, we should not"}, {"end": "00:53:00", "start": "00:52:56", "text": "let this idea of waste be a stopper for"}, {"end": "00:53:03", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "doing more in nuclear. What do you think"}, {"end": "00:53:05", "start": "00:53:00", "text": "we should do with it? I think for now"}, {"end": "00:53:08", "start": "00:53:03", "text": "what we're doing is is not terrible."}, {"end": "00:53:10", "start": "00:53:05", "text": "Just keep it where it is. The US should"}, {"end": "00:53:13", "start": "00:53:08", "text": "decide on how what are we going to do"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:10", "text": "with this long term? Um, is that one"}, {"end": "00:53:17", "start": "00:53:13", "text": "site where we can just store it? Is it a"}, {"end": "00:53:21", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "couple sites? And so we should continue"}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:17", "text": "looking for places to place it um as a"}, {"end": "00:53:26", "start": "00:53:21", "text": "backs stop. But you know recent some of"}, {"end": "00:53:28", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "the recent executive orders talk about"}, {"end": "00:53:31", "start": "00:53:26", "text": "how should we think about recycling. Are"}, {"end": "00:53:33", "start": "00:53:28", "text": "there ways to to do better? Recycling"}, {"end": "00:53:35", "start": "00:53:31", "text": "may not be as cost effective as just"}, {"end": "00:53:37", "start": "00:53:33", "text": "going and mining and producing new fuel."}, {"end": "00:53:40", "start": "00:53:35", "text": "France does recycling and reprocessing"}, {"end": "00:53:42", "start": "00:53:37", "text": "but the US doesn't. So there's some"}, {"end": "00:53:44", "start": "00:53:40", "text": "economic argument there about what's the"}, {"end": "00:53:45", "start": "00:53:42", "text": "total cost of these different solutions."}, {"end": "00:53:47", "start": "00:53:44", "text": "So I think that's that's something we'll"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:45", "text": "just the industry is going to be looking"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:47", "text": "into for the next few years."}, {"end": "00:53:56", "start": "00:53:51", "text": "What else has the what else has the"}, {"end": "00:53:59", "start": "00:53:53", "text": "government done to to"}, {"end": "00:54:01", "start": "00:53:56", "text": "what have they done to quadruple"}, {"end": "00:54:06", "start": "00:53:59", "text": "our energy production by what when did"}, {"end": "00:54:09", "start": "00:54:01", "text": "you say by 2050? By 2050. Yeah. Yeah. So"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:06", "text": "we're just taking action now. So"}, {"end": "00:54:15", "start": "00:54:09", "text": "really the last couple years there's"}, {"end": "00:54:16", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "been the programs to um if you if you"}, {"end": "00:54:19", "start": "00:54:15", "text": "zoom out there's fuel side and there's"}, {"end": "00:54:21", "start": "00:54:16", "text": "reactor side. On the reactor side there"}, {"end": "00:54:23", "start": "00:54:19", "text": "was a program that was about deploying"}, {"end": "00:54:24", "start": "00:54:21", "text": "advanced reactors. There was a couple of"}, {"end": "00:54:27", "start": "00:54:23", "text": "companies that were involved in that"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:24", "text": "that started a few years back and so uh"}, {"end": "00:54:34", "start": "00:54:27", "text": "Terrap Power X Energy are both part of"}, {"end": "00:54:36", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "that. um"}, {"end": "00:54:38", "start": "00:54:34", "text": "that's a program to try and accelerate"}, {"end": "00:54:40", "start": "00:54:36", "text": "their deployment."}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:38", "text": "So that's probably the first action that"}, {"end": "00:54:45", "start": "00:54:40", "text": "was taken in recent history that's"}, {"end": "00:54:48", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "really spurring things. And then you"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:45", "text": "have the Halo availability program a"}, {"end": "00:54:53", "start": "00:54:48", "text": "couple years back that launched uh a"}, {"end": "00:54:55", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "couple subprograms under that that are"}, {"end": "00:54:58", "start": "00:54:53", "text": "funded by that Halo availability"}, {"end": "00:55:01", "start": "00:54:55", "text": "program. one of which is the enrichment"}, {"end": "00:55:05", "start": "00:54:58", "text": "that uh we're working on."}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:01", "text": "And then with some of the uh there was a"}, {"end": "00:55:12", "start": "00:55:05", "text": "Russia sanction pretty much across the"}, {"end": "00:55:14", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "board except for a couple categories and"}, {"end": "00:55:18", "start": "00:55:12", "text": "uranium actually got banned from Russian"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:14", "text": "imports uh middle of last year. And so"}, {"end": "00:55:22", "start": "00:55:18", "text": "that triggered another program focused"}, {"end": "00:55:25", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "on the lower enriched uranium. So you"}, {"end": "00:55:29", "start": "00:55:22", "text": "had the ARDP, the advanced um"}, {"end": "00:55:33", "start": "00:55:25", "text": "demonstration reactor program. You had"}, {"end": "00:55:35", "start": "00:55:29", "text": "Halo and LEU enrichment programs."}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:33", "text": "And then what we saw a couple weeks ago"}, {"end": "00:55:40", "start": "00:55:35", "text": "were a couple uh four executive orders"}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "focused on accelerating nuclear. So"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:40", "text": "these are some of the biggest actions"}, {"end": "00:55:45", "start": "00:55:41", "text": "that have been taken in a long time. So"}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "yes, you have more funding for things,"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:45", "text": "but that's like the gas, but there was"}, {"end": "00:55:52", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "this break on things. And the executive"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "orders are meant to address the break."}, {"end": "00:55:58", "start": "00:55:52", "text": "Okay. And so you had, you know, a lot of"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "people say it's all about regulation."}, {"end": "00:56:02", "start": "00:55:58", "text": "That's been the thing that stopped it."}, {"end": "00:56:04", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "These I don't think that's the whole"}, {"end": "00:56:07", "start": "00:56:02", "text": "story, and we can get into that. But"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:04", "text": "these executive orders, they're going to"}, {"end": "00:56:10", "start": "00:56:07", "text": "focus on the regulation piece because"}, {"end": "00:56:12", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "they can't tell the industry what to do."}, {"end": "00:56:15", "start": "00:56:10", "text": "the industry's got to actually go go do"}, {"end": "00:56:17", "start": "00:56:12", "text": "it. But the executive orders did address"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:15", "text": "four different things."}, {"end": "00:56:23", "start": "00:56:17", "text": "Uh one was the supply chain,"}, {"end": "00:56:25", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "one was the DOE. So supply chain meaning"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:23", "text": "fuel and other elements that uh elements"}, {"end": "00:56:29", "start": "00:56:25", "text": "of workforce and things that need to go"}, {"end": "00:56:32", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "into the industry. So how do we how do"}, {"end": "00:56:34", "start": "00:56:29", "text": "we support that and bolster that? Second"}, {"end": "00:56:36", "start": "00:56:32", "text": "executive order was around the"}, {"end": "00:56:39", "start": "00:56:34", "text": "Department of Energy"}, {"end": "00:56:41", "start": "00:56:36", "text": "and saying we haven't done anything new"}, {"end": "00:56:44", "start": "00:56:39", "text": "with reactors for a long time. Pretty"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:41", "text": "much any reactor we build is going to be"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:44", "text": "R&D and so we should treat it like R&D"}, {"end": "00:56:52", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "and the Department of Energy has the"}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "right to test reactors under R&D. So we"}, {"end": "00:56:57", "start": "00:56:52", "text": "should give them more top cover or"}, {"end": "00:56:59", "start": "00:56:54", "text": "ability to go test these reactors on"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:57", "text": "their land. So this creates an"}, {"end": "00:57:03", "start": "00:56:59", "text": "alternative for companies just trying to"}, {"end": "00:57:06", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "get started to prove out what they can"}, {"end": "00:57:07", "start": "00:57:03", "text": "do and now they can do that on DOE land"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:06", "text": "even more than they could before. So"}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "that's that's one action. There's"}, {"end": "00:57:14", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "another executive order that said the"}, {"end": "00:57:17", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "defense department should stand up the"}, {"end": "00:57:20", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "capability to deploy its own reactors so"}, {"end": "00:57:23", "start": "00:57:17", "text": "that they can you know have uh energy"}, {"end": "00:57:26", "start": "00:57:20", "text": "resilience on their bases."}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:23", "text": "Another executive order said the NRC"}, {"end": "00:57:30", "start": "00:57:26", "text": "should reform. Historically, it just"}, {"end": "00:57:33", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "looked at risk and said, \"We need to get"}, {"end": "00:57:35", "start": "00:57:30", "text": "radiation risk as low as possible, even"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:33", "text": "lower than background levels in some"}, {"end": "00:57:45", "start": "00:57:35", "text": "cases.\" This policy was known as Allara"}, {"end": "00:57:49", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "um as low as uh reasonably achievable"}, {"end": "00:57:50", "start": "00:57:45", "text": "and there's really no floor on that. So"}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:49", "text": "that meant that while the safest the"}, {"end": "00:57:55", "start": "00:57:50", "text": "safest nuclear is no nuclear and so"}, {"end": "00:57:57", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "there's naturally a bias towards really"}, {"end": "00:57:59", "start": "00:57:55", "text": "restricting"}, {"end": "00:58:02", "start": "00:57:57", "text": "nuclear and you know just creating an"}, {"end": "00:58:05", "start": "00:57:59", "text": "incredibly high safety bar that's higher"}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:02", "text": "than any other source of energy. And so"}, {"end": "00:58:09", "start": "00:58:05", "text": "this executive order said hey let's take"}, {"end": "00:58:10", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "a look at the regulations and let's"}, {"end": "00:58:13", "start": "00:58:09", "text": "update them. Let's not deregulate. Let's"}, {"end": "00:58:15", "start": "00:58:10", "text": "just reeregulate and think about given"}, {"end": "00:58:18", "start": "00:58:13", "text": "modern technology how should we be"}, {"end": "00:58:20", "start": "00:58:15", "text": "thinking about this? Yes, every energy"}, {"end": "00:58:21", "start": "00:58:18", "text": "source has some risks but nuclear has a"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:20", "text": "lot of benefits and we should factor"}, {"end": "00:58:26", "start": "00:58:21", "text": "those in just like we do for um air"}, {"end": "00:58:28", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "travel. Mhm. There's risk, but there's"}, {"end": "00:58:30", "start": "00:58:26", "text": "benefits. So, you can't say that it has"}, {"end": "00:58:31", "start": "00:58:28", "text": "to be zero risk. Otherwise, you're going"}, {"end": "00:58:33", "start": "00:58:30", "text": "to do other things like driving to"}, {"end": "00:58:35", "start": "00:58:31", "text": "somewhere, and that's higher risk. Mhm."}, {"end": "00:58:39", "start": "00:58:33", "text": "So, same thing on energy."}, {"end": "00:58:40", "start": "00:58:35", "text": "Um, and so there was NRC, DoD, DOE, and"}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:39", "text": "the supply chain. And all four of those"}, {"end": "00:58:44", "start": "00:58:40", "text": "executive orders went out a couple weeks"}, {"end": "00:58:48", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "ago, and they all just get back to the"}, {"end": "00:58:49", "start": "00:58:44", "text": "core themes of let's get more industrial"}, {"end": "00:58:52", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "activity, more economic activity in the"}, {"end": "00:58:55", "start": "00:58:49", "text": "US. Let's remove unnecessary regulations"}, {"end": "00:58:58", "start": "00:58:52", "text": "that just slow things down."}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:55", "text": "Um, two, really, let's bring stuff back"}, {"end": "00:59:03", "start": "00:58:58", "text": "onshore and have our own capabilities so"}, {"end": "00:59:05", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "that worst case we can produce what we"}, {"end": "00:59:08", "start": "00:59:03", "text": "need. We should still trade, but let's"}, {"end": "00:59:10", "start": "00:59:05", "text": "make sure we have a backs stop to that."}, {"end": "00:59:11", "start": "00:59:08", "text": "And then three, if we want to have"}, {"end": "00:59:13", "start": "00:59:10", "text": "national security and be able to have"}, {"end": "00:59:15", "start": "00:59:11", "text": "influence across the globe, we need to"}, {"end": "00:59:18", "start": "00:59:13", "text": "be leaders in these industries. And so"}, {"end": "00:59:21", "start": "00:59:15", "text": "for nuclear we need to lead um and we"}, {"end": "00:59:23", "start": "00:59:18", "text": "need to turn around the trend of 87% of"}, {"end": "00:59:25", "start": "00:59:21", "text": "reactors that are out there in the world"}, {"end": "00:59:28", "start": "00:59:23", "text": "are designs from other countries not the"}, {"end": "00:59:29", "start": "00:59:25", "text": "US and so as people deploy those"}, {"end": "00:59:31", "start": "00:59:28", "text": "reactors that comes with fuel contracts"}, {"end": "00:59:33", "start": "00:59:29", "text": "and really locks them in to be dependent"}, {"end": "00:59:36", "start": "00:59:31", "text": "for a long time on these other"}, {"end": "00:59:37", "start": "00:59:33", "text": "countries. And so the US should be"}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:36", "text": "actually leading there and being able to"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:37", "text": "work with our allies to give them"}, {"end": "00:59:45", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "reactors and give them fuel."}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:41", "text": "Now I got a question. I mean"}, {"end": "00:59:50", "start": "00:59:45", "text": "is is somebody who's jumping into this"}, {"end": "00:59:53", "start": "00:59:47", "text": "with both feet and you're going full"}, {"end": "00:59:54", "start": "00:59:50", "text": "speed ahead. I mean with the polarized"}, {"end": "00:59:58", "start": "00:59:53", "text": "political climate of the country right"}, {"end": "00:59:59", "start": "00:59:54", "text": "now. I mean, do you worry that and I"}, {"end": "01:00:01", "start": "00:59:58", "text": "think you said by the end of the decade,"}, {"end": "01:00:06", "start": "00:59:59", "text": "so there will be a, you know, there'll"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:01", "text": "be a change uh before. Do you worry that"}, {"end": "01:00:10", "start": "01:00:06", "text": "political"}, {"end": "01:00:13", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "rivalries are going to get in the way of"}, {"end": "01:00:15", "start": "01:00:10", "text": "of your success? I don't think so. This"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:13", "text": "Yeah, this has been a really bipartisan"}, {"end": "01:00:19", "start": "01:00:15", "text": "issue. Mhm. So even the programs that"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "we're working with the DO DOE on those"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:19", "text": "were under the last administration. And"}, {"end": "01:00:26", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "then this administration's doing great"}, {"end": "01:00:28", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "things to try and accelerate nuclear"}, {"end": "01:00:31", "start": "01:00:26", "text": "too. And I think last couple years you"}, {"end": "01:00:33", "start": "01:00:28", "text": "saw this bipartisan support emerge where"}, {"end": "01:00:37", "start": "01:00:31", "text": "people who were more focused on clean"}, {"end": "01:00:41", "start": "01:00:33", "text": "energy realized nuclear emits no carbon"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:37", "text": "and no particullet and it's safe. And"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:41", "text": "the waste issue, the spent fuel issue is"}, {"end": "01:00:48", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "so small compared to the waste we"}, {"end": "01:00:50", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "generate through every other form of"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:48", "text": "energy. This is the cleanest base load."}, {"end": "01:00:54", "start": "01:00:50", "text": "It's the safest base load. We should do"}, {"end": "01:00:56", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "this. And then on the on the other side,"}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:54", "text": "people who are more focused about energy"}, {"end": "01:01:01", "start": "01:00:56", "text": "production and cost realize with the new"}, {"end": "01:01:03", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "technologies, nuclear could actually be"}, {"end": "01:01:06", "start": "01:01:01", "text": "this the cheapest, the most economical,"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:01:03", "text": "and our best path for just expanding"}, {"end": "01:01:10", "start": "01:01:06", "text": "production like, you know, like we"}, {"end": "01:01:13", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "haven't in a very long time. And so I"}, {"end": "01:01:16", "start": "01:01:10", "text": "think this is this combined with the"}, {"end": "01:01:18", "start": "01:01:13", "text": "safety profile of existing nuclear and"}, {"end": "01:01:20", "start": "01:01:16", "text": "the even better safety profile of"}, {"end": "01:01:21", "start": "01:01:18", "text": "advanced nuclear. I don't think there's"}, {"end": "01:01:23", "start": "01:01:20", "text": "I don't think there's going to be a lot"}, {"end": "01:01:25", "start": "01:01:21", "text": "of disagreement. I think people have"}, {"end": "01:01:27", "start": "01:01:23", "text": "realized hey this is one thing we can"}, {"end": "01:01:29", "start": "01:01:25", "text": "come together on and say that this is"}, {"end": "01:01:30", "start": "01:01:27", "text": "positive and I don't think there's any"}, {"end": "01:01:32", "start": "01:01:29", "text": "reason for it to become a political"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:30", "text": "thing."}, {"end": "01:01:36", "start": "01:01:32", "text": "That's great. even some of the states"}, {"end": "01:01:39", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "we're we're looking at um Washington for"}, {"end": "01:01:42", "start": "01:01:36", "text": "example that's a classically blue state"}, {"end": "01:01:45", "start": "01:01:39", "text": "um but they're doing a lot of things in"}, {"end": "01:01:47", "start": "01:01:42", "text": "nuclear and so I think everyone's come"}, {"end": "01:01:50", "start": "01:01:45", "text": "around to this that's good to hear I"}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:47", "text": "mean will we be able maybe we already"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:50", "text": "are I don't know but I mean will we be"}, {"end": "01:01:57", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "able to mine our own uranium here uh we"}, {"end": "01:02:02", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "already do we already do yep so on the"}, {"end": "01:02:03", "start": "01:01:57", "text": "five steps just to to go back so mining"}, {"end": "01:02:05", "start": "01:02:02", "text": "converting converting into gas,"}, {"end": "01:02:08", "start": "01:02:03", "text": "enriching, deconverting back into solid,"}, {"end": "01:02:10", "start": "01:02:05", "text": "and then fuel fabrication. The mining,"}, {"end": "01:02:13", "start": "01:02:08", "text": "we already we already do it um and we've"}, {"end": "01:02:15", "start": "01:02:10", "text": "been doing it for a long time in Utah,"}, {"end": "01:02:19", "start": "01:02:13", "text": "Colorado,"}, {"end": "01:02:23", "start": "01:02:15", "text": "um Arizona, and with newer techniques in"}, {"end": "01:02:24", "start": "01:02:19", "text": "Wyoming, and in Texas. And so there's a"}, {"end": "01:02:27", "start": "01:02:23", "text": "bunch of places in the US that have"}, {"end": "01:02:29", "start": "01:02:24", "text": "uranium that we can go mine either"}, {"end": "01:02:32", "start": "01:02:27", "text": "through conventional techniques which is"}, {"end": "01:02:35", "start": "01:02:29", "text": "classic mining underground or open pit"}, {"end": "01:02:39", "start": "01:02:32", "text": "um or the new modern technology which is"}, {"end": "01:02:42", "start": "01:02:35", "text": "um insitu recovery ISR which essentially"}, {"end": "01:02:43", "start": "01:02:39", "text": "people are just they drill wells they"}, {"end": "01:02:46", "start": "01:02:42", "text": "flow a fluid through the under"}, {"end": "01:02:48", "start": "01:02:43", "text": "underground and then pull it back up and"}, {"end": "01:02:51", "start": "01:02:46", "text": "that fluid manages to dissolve and"}, {"end": "01:02:52", "start": "01:02:48", "text": "extract the uranium. And so that's a"}, {"end": "01:02:55", "start": "01:02:51", "text": "newer technique that looks more like"}, {"end": "01:02:58", "start": "01:02:52", "text": "fracking or something um to to get to"}, {"end": "01:02:59", "start": "01:02:55", "text": "get uranium. So we do mining in the US."}, {"end": "01:03:01", "start": "01:02:58", "text": "Our allies do a lot of mining. Canada"}, {"end": "01:03:05", "start": "01:02:59", "text": "does mining. They have great ore"}, {"end": "01:03:07", "start": "01:03:01", "text": "deposits. So does Australia. So between"}, {"end": "01:03:10", "start": "01:03:05", "text": "us and our allies, there's plenty of"}, {"end": "01:03:12", "start": "01:03:07", "text": "plenty of mining and plenty right here"}, {"end": "01:03:14", "start": "01:03:10", "text": "in the US. Do you think we would wind up"}, {"end": "01:03:17", "start": "01:03:12", "text": "exporting? I think we could. Enriched"}, {"end": "01:03:20", "start": "01:03:14", "text": "uranium. Yeah, I think we could. um our"}, {"end": "01:03:22", "start": "01:03:17", "text": "focus is let's get the US back to"}, {"end": "01:03:24", "start": "01:03:20", "text": "completely meeting its own needs."}, {"end": "01:03:28", "start": "01:03:22", "text": "But when you think about other countries"}, {"end": "01:03:29", "start": "01:03:24", "text": "that want nuclear and they say, \"Hey,"}, {"end": "01:03:32", "start": "01:03:28", "text": "you know, why can't we have nuclear"}, {"end": "01:03:34", "start": "01:03:29", "text": "energy? Why can't we have nuclear fuel?\""}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:32", "text": "I think the US should at some point be"}, {"end": "01:03:39", "start": "01:03:34", "text": "the provider of that fuel, especially if"}, {"end": "01:03:42", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "we can do it really cheaply. So, think"}, {"end": "01:03:45", "start": "01:03:39", "text": "of an argument of a country like Iran"}, {"end": "01:03:48", "start": "01:03:42", "text": "that says we want nuclear energy for for"}, {"end": "01:03:50", "start": "01:03:45", "text": "commercial use, non-military use. If we"}, {"end": "01:03:54", "start": "01:03:48", "text": "told them, hey, we make a lot of fuel."}, {"end": "01:03:55", "start": "01:03:50", "text": "we we do it at very low cost."}, {"end": "01:03:58", "start": "01:03:54", "text": "Why don't you buy it from us? You don't"}, {"end": "01:04:00", "start": "01:03:55", "text": "need to enrich. I think that could be a,"}, {"end": "01:04:02", "start": "01:03:58", "text": "you know, a win-win. Um, if they're"}, {"end": "01:04:04", "start": "01:04:00", "text": "willing to agree to that. And I think at"}, {"end": "01:04:06", "start": "01:04:02", "text": "some point if the US is producing a lot"}, {"end": "01:04:07", "start": "01:04:04", "text": "of fuel at low cost and we're willing to"}, {"end": "01:04:09", "start": "01:04:06", "text": "sell it at that low cost to other"}, {"end": "01:04:11", "start": "01:04:07", "text": "countries much cheaper than they could"}, {"end": "01:04:13", "start": "01:04:09", "text": "ever produce it for."}, {"end": "01:04:16", "start": "01:04:11", "text": "And if they're new to nuclear and we're"}, {"end": "01:04:18", "start": "01:04:13", "text": "building new reactor types and we say,"}, {"end": "01:04:20", "start": "01:04:16", "text": "\"Look, let us do this for you. We're"}, {"end": "01:04:21", "start": "01:04:18", "text": "going to give you the reactors. we're"}, {"end": "01:04:24", "start": "01:04:20", "text": "going to give you the fuel. It's going"}, {"end": "01:04:26", "start": "01:04:21", "text": "to be far more economical than you could"}, {"end": "01:04:27", "start": "01:04:24", "text": "ever do it for."}, {"end": "01:04:29", "start": "01:04:26", "text": "And you know, there's going to be some"}, {"end": "01:04:32", "start": "01:04:27", "text": "details that have to be worked out in"}, {"end": "01:04:35", "start": "01:04:29", "text": "who's in control of that. Um,"}, {"end": "01:04:37", "start": "01:04:32", "text": "but you have to imagine if they should"}, {"end": "01:04:38", "start": "01:04:35", "text": "say yes to that unless they have other"}, {"end": "01:04:40", "start": "01:04:37", "text": "goals through enrichment. 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Do you see everything"}, {"end": "01:07:45", "start": "01:07:41", "text": "moving towards nuclear in the future?"}, {"end": "01:07:46", "start": "01:07:43", "text": "Automobiles,"}, {"end": "01:07:48", "start": "01:07:45", "text": "planes,"}, {"end": "01:07:52", "start": "01:07:46", "text": "rockets. Do you do you think that's"}, {"end": "01:07:55", "start": "01:07:48", "text": "going to powering neighborhoods?"}, {"end": "01:07:56", "start": "01:07:52", "text": "I don't think everything. I think grid."}, {"end": "01:07:58", "start": "01:07:55", "text": "I think we're going to see nuclear"}, {"end": "01:08:00", "start": "01:07:56", "text": "increase from just under 20% to"}, {"end": "01:08:04", "start": "01:07:58", "text": "hopefully much more than that."}, {"end": "01:08:07", "start": "01:08:00", "text": "cars. I'm more skeptical."}, {"end": "01:08:09", "start": "01:08:04", "text": "You know, it's the reason we use fossil"}, {"end": "01:08:13", "start": "01:08:07", "text": "fuel and and batteries in cars is"}, {"end": "01:08:16", "start": "01:08:09", "text": "because it's it's so energy dense. And"}, {"end": "01:08:17", "start": "01:08:13", "text": "while, you know, a nuclear piece of"}, {"end": "01:08:20", "start": "01:08:16", "text": "nuclear fuel is very energy dense, a"}, {"end": "01:08:22", "start": "01:08:17", "text": "reactor is not quite as energy dense."}, {"end": "01:08:24", "start": "01:08:20", "text": "And, you know, you have safety concerns"}, {"end": "01:08:25", "start": "01:08:22", "text": "of that. What if the car crashes? All"}, {"end": "01:08:27", "start": "01:08:24", "text": "those sort of things. And you could"}, {"end": "01:08:29", "start": "01:08:25", "text": "design around that. But I think it just"}, {"end": "01:08:32", "start": "01:08:27", "text": "makes a lot of sense, a lot of sense to"}, {"end": "01:08:34", "start": "01:08:29", "text": "just either do electric or fossil fuels"}, {"end": "01:08:36", "start": "01:08:32", "text": "for cars. I think if you're talking"}, {"end": "01:08:38", "start": "01:08:34", "text": "about a neighborhood that's a grid, that"}, {"end": "01:08:40", "start": "01:08:36", "text": "should be more nuclear. Nuclear should"}, {"end": "01:08:42", "start": "01:08:38", "text": "be the future of that. Airplanes, people"}, {"end": "01:08:44", "start": "01:08:40", "text": "have talked about nuclear airplanes in"}, {"end": "01:08:46", "start": "01:08:42", "text": "the past. Um, out in Idaho, they"}, {"end": "01:08:48", "start": "01:08:44", "text": "actually tested a reactor that was meant"}, {"end": "01:08:51", "start": "01:08:46", "text": "to be for an airplane,"}, {"end": "01:08:52", "start": "01:08:48", "text": "but reactors are still pretty heavy."}, {"end": "01:08:54", "start": "01:08:51", "text": "Probably better off just, you know,"}, {"end": "01:08:57", "start": "01:08:52", "text": "either doing electric or or what we have"}, {"end": "01:08:58", "start": "01:08:54", "text": "today for airplanes. So, I think, you"}, {"end": "01:09:00", "start": "01:08:57", "text": "know, there's some people who might"}, {"end": "01:09:02", "start": "01:08:58", "text": "think, okay, nuclear should be every"}, {"end": "01:09:04", "start": "01:09:00", "text": "single source of energy. And I would"}, {"end": "01:09:06", "start": "01:09:02", "text": "argue it still could be um even if it's"}, {"end": "01:09:09", "start": "01:09:04", "text": "not used in those applications because"}, {"end": "01:09:12", "start": "01:09:06", "text": "those applications run on on fuels. But"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:09", "text": "what if your nuclear was so cheap that"}, {"end": "01:09:16", "start": "01:09:12", "text": "you could use it to make like synthetic"}, {"end": "01:09:20", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "aviation fuel or synthetic automobile"}, {"end": "01:09:21", "start": "01:09:16", "text": "fuel? That's that's conceivable. Um"}, {"end": "01:09:23", "start": "01:09:20", "text": "that's a that's a further way away. I'd"}, {"end": "01:09:25", "start": "01:09:21", "text": "say let's let's get started with"}, {"end": "01:09:27", "start": "01:09:23", "text": "deploying a bunch of reactors. let's get"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:25", "text": "their cost down and then when their cost"}, {"end": "01:09:32", "start": "01:09:27", "text": "is really low then we can we should do"}, {"end": "01:09:33", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "those things but it's going to be step"}, {"end": "01:09:35", "start": "01:09:32", "text": "by step. It's going to be gradual."}, {"end": "01:09:37", "start": "01:09:33", "text": "That's like a 20-year project I think to"}, {"end": "01:09:40", "start": "01:09:35", "text": "get to get everything. How far do you"}, {"end": "01:09:41", "start": "01:09:37", "text": "see some of these mini reactors going?"}, {"end": "01:09:44", "start": "01:09:40", "text": "Yeah, if we go back to the one I was"}, {"end": "01:09:46", "start": "01:09:41", "text": "talking about earlier. So containerized"}, {"end": "01:09:49", "start": "01:09:44", "text": "1 megawatt of electric, 2 megawatt"}, {"end": "01:09:50", "start": "01:09:46", "text": "thermal. I think those could be, you"}, {"end": "01:09:52", "start": "01:09:49", "text": "know, you're going to start in really"}, {"end": "01:09:56", "start": "01:09:50", "text": "more niche applications like the remote"}, {"end": "01:09:58", "start": "01:09:52", "text": "Alaskan village that doesn't have a good"}, {"end": "01:10:00", "start": "01:09:56", "text": "source of electricity and, you know,"}, {"end": "01:10:02", "start": "01:09:58", "text": "solar is unreliable, wind's not going to"}, {"end": "01:10:04", "start": "01:10:00", "text": "work. Okay, we're way up there in middle"}, {"end": "01:10:06", "start": "01:10:02", "text": "of nowhere, Alaska, and we need to"}, {"end": "01:10:08", "start": "01:10:04", "text": "actually import diesel every summer"}, {"end": "01:10:11", "start": "01:10:06", "text": "through a tanker. And then we store it"}, {"end": "01:10:13", "start": "01:10:08", "text": "and we just run our diesel generators."}, {"end": "01:10:14", "start": "01:10:11", "text": "Examples like that are just seem like a"}, {"end": "01:10:16", "start": "01:10:13", "text": "no-brainer for a nuclear reactor that"}, {"end": "01:10:20", "start": "01:10:14", "text": "could be containerized and run for 5 to"}, {"end": "01:10:22", "start": "01:10:16", "text": "10 years or an army base um that is"}, {"end": "01:10:23", "start": "01:10:20", "text": "going to run off of small ones like that"}, {"end": "01:10:27", "start": "01:10:22", "text": "maybe for radar maybe for some other"}, {"end": "01:10:28", "start": "01:10:23", "text": "critical systems. I think those those"}, {"end": "01:10:30", "start": "01:10:27", "text": "applications we're going to see right"}, {"end": "01:10:32", "start": "01:10:28", "text": "away. And I think for the small ones,"}, {"end": "01:10:35", "start": "01:10:30", "text": "you could see as they deploy into those"}, {"end": "01:10:36", "start": "01:10:32", "text": "applications, they get more experience"}, {"end": "01:10:38", "start": "01:10:35", "text": "building things in the factory, the"}, {"end": "01:10:40", "start": "01:10:36", "text": "factory cost comes down. All of a"}, {"end": "01:10:43", "start": "01:10:38", "text": "sudden, you realize, okay, these small"}, {"end": "01:10:45", "start": "01:10:40", "text": "ones, maybe you can combine like the"}, {"end": "01:10:48", "start": "01:10:43", "text": "generators, like the solar panels, like"}, {"end": "01:10:50", "start": "01:10:45", "text": "the battery storage,"}, {"end": "01:10:52", "start": "01:10:48", "text": "and we could have parking lots of these"}, {"end": "01:10:55", "start": "01:10:50", "text": "that in aggregate produce a pretty good"}, {"end": "01:10:56", "start": "01:10:52", "text": "amount of power. I think at some point"}, {"end": "01:10:57", "start": "01:10:55", "text": "once you're trying to go to bigger"}, {"end": "01:10:59", "start": "01:10:56", "text": "amounts like okay we need to do a"}, {"end": "01:11:01", "start": "01:10:57", "text": "gigawatt maybe there's a more efficient"}, {"end": "01:11:03", "start": "01:10:59", "text": "way where maybe it doesn't have to be in"}, {"end": "01:11:06", "start": "01:11:01", "text": "a shipping container but it should be"}, {"end": "01:11:08", "start": "01:11:03", "text": "truckable or put on a train and it"}, {"end": "01:11:09", "start": "01:11:06", "text": "should be able to be made in a factory."}, {"end": "01:11:11", "start": "01:11:08", "text": "So then you're getting more into the b"}, {"end": "01:11:13", "start": "01:11:09", "text": "midsize which people you know those"}, {"end": "01:11:16", "start": "01:11:11", "text": "really small ones are like generally"}, {"end": "01:11:20", "start": "01:11:13", "text": "called micro reactors. 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You're"}, {"end": "01:11:45", "start": "01:11:42", "text": "going to prep your site. You're probably"}, {"end": "01:11:47", "start": "01:11:43", "text": "going to dig barriers for the reactors"}, {"end": "01:11:51", "start": "01:11:45", "text": "to go. You're going to have to pour some"}, {"end": "01:11:53", "start": "01:11:47", "text": "concrete, um, build some structures."}, {"end": "01:11:55", "start": "01:11:51", "text": "But the idea of modular there is, hey,"}, {"end": "01:11:58", "start": "01:11:53", "text": "we bring in the reactor core and then"}, {"end": "01:12:00", "start": "01:11:55", "text": "separately we'll bring in maybe the the"}, {"end": "01:12:01", "start": "01:11:58", "text": "cooling loop and separately we'll bring"}, {"end": "01:12:03", "start": "01:12:00", "text": "in the turbines and we'll plug it all"}, {"end": "01:12:06", "start": "01:12:01", "text": "together there. 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So people ask me which"}, {"end": "01:12:37", "start": "01:12:34", "text": "one do you think wins? Which reactor"}, {"end": "01:12:39", "start": "01:12:35", "text": "wins? I think these are three pretty"}, {"end": "01:12:41", "start": "01:12:37", "text": "different segments where the really big"}, {"end": "01:12:44", "start": "01:12:39", "text": "reactors that's that's straight onto the"}, {"end": "01:12:46", "start": "01:12:41", "text": "grid. You're competing at grid scale"}, {"end": "01:12:48", "start": "01:12:44", "text": "grid energy costs. You have to hit"}, {"end": "01:12:51", "start": "01:12:46", "text": "really low cost."}, {"end": "01:12:54", "start": "01:12:48", "text": "Middle end of the spectrum."}, {"end": "01:12:56", "start": "01:12:51", "text": "It's about speed and about yeah how fast"}, {"end": "01:12:57", "start": "01:12:54", "text": "can we build this construction project?"}, {"end": "01:13:00", "start": "01:12:56", "text": "This can't be a 10-year project. It has"}, {"end": "01:13:03", "start": "01:12:57", "text": "to be a 5year project or less."}, {"end": "01:13:04", "start": "01:13:00", "text": "We need energy now and we need it. We"}, {"end": "01:13:07", "start": "01:13:03", "text": "don't care if it's quite as cheap as the"}, {"end": "01:13:11", "start": "01:13:04", "text": "grid, but we want it to be extremely"}, {"end": "01:13:12", "start": "01:13:07", "text": "reliable. So 100% uptime and so that's"}, {"end": "01:13:15", "start": "01:13:11", "text": "going to point you towards small modular"}, {"end": "01:13:16", "start": "01:13:12", "text": "reactors. Um that many people are"}, {"end": "01:13:18", "start": "01:13:15", "text": "working on and that's probably for data"}, {"end": "01:13:21", "start": "01:13:16", "text": "centers. So data centers has been a huge"}, {"end": "01:13:22", "start": "01:13:18", "text": "push for this. Previously they went out"}, {"end": "01:13:24", "start": "01:13:21", "text": "and they looked for stranded"}, {"end": "01:13:25", "start": "01:13:22", "text": "electricity. You know where can we find"}, {"end": "01:13:28", "start": "01:13:24", "text": "a few hundred megawatts? Where can we"}, {"end": "01:13:31", "start": "01:13:25", "text": "find a gigawatt of stranded wind in, you"}, {"end": "01:13:34", "start": "01:13:28", "text": "know, West Texas or solar that's not"}, {"end": "01:13:35", "start": "01:13:31", "text": "being used and or where is there maybe"}, {"end": "01:13:38", "start": "01:13:34", "text": "solar and wind in a natural gas pipeline"}, {"end": "01:13:40", "start": "01:13:35", "text": "and we can just put it all there. Those"}, {"end": "01:13:42", "start": "01:13:38", "text": "sites are largely"}, {"end": "01:13:43", "start": "01:13:40", "text": "uh now claimed. Everyone's been"}, {"end": "01:13:45", "start": "01:13:42", "text": "searching for them the last couple"}, {"end": "01:13:46", "start": "01:13:43", "text": "years. People found them and people"}, {"end": "01:13:49", "start": "01:13:45", "text": "locked them up and they're building data"}, {"end": "01:13:51", "start": "01:13:46", "text": "centers on those sites. Now it's about"}, {"end": "01:13:53", "start": "01:13:49", "text": "okay we need new production or we're not"}, {"end": "01:13:55", "start": "01:13:51", "text": "going to you know those days are over"}, {"end": "01:13:57", "start": "01:13:53", "text": "where there's just latent supply we need"}, {"end": "01:13:59", "start": "01:13:55", "text": "to create supply of electricity and so"}, {"end": "01:14:01", "start": "01:13:57", "text": "that middle segment I think is for the"}, {"end": "01:14:04", "start": "01:13:59", "text": "data centers it's that's where we're"}, {"end": "01:14:05", "start": "01:14:01", "text": "going to see rapid adoption day one it's"}, {"end": "01:14:06", "start": "01:14:04", "text": "going to be higher price points than you"}, {"end": "01:14:09", "start": "01:14:05", "text": "could get from the grid but it's certain"}, {"end": "01:14:11", "start": "01:14:06", "text": "and it's you can do it in bulk so"}, {"end": "01:14:13", "start": "01:14:09", "text": "they're going to sign up for that and"}, {"end": "01:14:15", "start": "01:14:11", "text": "then I think the micro actors are a"}, {"end": "01:14:17", "start": "01:14:13", "text": "whole separate story of you know we're"}, {"end": "01:14:19", "start": "01:14:15", "text": "not even thinking about the grid because"}, {"end": "01:14:21", "start": "01:14:17", "text": "we're going to places where either the"}, {"end": "01:14:24", "start": "01:14:19", "text": "use case has to assume the grid is not"}, {"end": "01:14:25", "start": "01:14:21", "text": "working or there is no no grid. I think"}, {"end": "01:14:27", "start": "01:14:24", "text": "that's where we're going to see that"}, {"end": "01:14:29", "start": "01:14:25", "text": "first. So I think there's room for many"}, {"end": "01:14:31", "start": "01:14:27", "text": "of these different reactor designs to"}, {"end": "01:14:33", "start": "01:14:29", "text": "succeed. And the biggest variable I"}, {"end": "01:14:35", "start": "01:14:31", "text": "think of between them isn't what fluid"}, {"end": "01:14:37", "start": "01:14:33", "text": "they have inside the system isn't"}, {"end": "01:14:41", "start": "01:14:35", "text": "exactly whether they use the poppy seed"}, {"end": "01:14:44", "start": "01:14:37", "text": "size kernels particles or golf ball size"}, {"end": "01:14:46", "start": "01:14:41", "text": "or little cylinders. It's how big a"}, {"end": "01:14:49", "start": "01:14:44", "text": "reactor are you making and how much does"}, {"end": "01:14:52", "start": "01:14:46", "text": "it cost to build? How about the"}, {"end": "01:14:53", "start": "01:14:49", "text": "transmission point? Transmission's the"}, {"end": "01:14:55", "start": "01:14:52", "text": "next the next big piece. So, you've got"}, {"end": "01:14:56", "start": "01:14:53", "text": "fuel, you've got the reactors, and now"}, {"end": "01:14:59", "start": "01:14:55", "text": "what about actually moving the"}, {"end": "01:15:01", "start": "01:14:56", "text": "electricity around? I think that's"}, {"end": "01:15:04", "start": "01:14:59", "text": "that's going to be a challenging piece."}, {"end": "01:15:07", "start": "01:15:01", "text": "And that's that's something we hear from"}, {"end": "01:15:10", "start": "01:15:04", "text": "friends in the data center world is that"}, {"end": "01:15:11", "start": "01:15:07", "text": "um you know the grid is going to be"}, {"end": "01:15:13", "start": "01:15:10", "text": "challenged to grow as fast as we need it"}, {"end": "01:15:16", "start": "01:15:11", "text": "to with a bunch of bottlenecks. You've"}, {"end": "01:15:18", "start": "01:15:13", "text": "got you know takes a long time to build"}, {"end": "01:15:21", "start": "01:15:16", "text": "transmission lines based on"}, {"end": "01:15:22", "start": "01:15:18", "text": "environmental permitting and the supply"}, {"end": "01:15:24", "start": "01:15:21", "text": "chains."}, {"end": "01:15:26", "start": "01:15:22", "text": "You know an example of supply chain"}, {"end": "01:15:28", "start": "01:15:24", "text": "issue is transformers."}, {"end": "01:15:30", "start": "01:15:26", "text": "So transformers now have a long lead"}, {"end": "01:15:32", "start": "01:15:28", "text": "time. we didn't build up a ton of"}, {"end": "01:15:34", "start": "01:15:30", "text": "capability in the country for making as"}, {"end": "01:15:36", "start": "01:15:32", "text": "many transformers as we now need. So now"}, {"end": "01:15:38", "start": "01:15:34", "text": "there's there's weight times and lead"}, {"end": "01:15:40", "start": "01:15:36", "text": "times. Um"}, {"end": "01:15:42", "start": "01:15:38", "text": "yeah, so I think I think we're going to"}, {"end": "01:15:44", "start": "01:15:40", "text": "see supply chain challenges there that"}, {"end": "01:15:47", "start": "01:15:42", "text": "are going to they will bottleneck how"}, {"end": "01:15:49", "start": "01:15:44", "text": "fast we can go and so you know do you"}, {"end": "01:15:50", "start": "01:15:47", "text": "see new companies getting stood up to"}, {"end": "01:15:52", "start": "01:15:49", "text": "actually address the transformer"}, {"end": "01:15:55", "start": "01:15:50", "text": "shortage? I think you could see things"}, {"end": "01:15:58", "start": "01:15:52", "text": "like that."}, {"end": "01:16:01", "start": "01:15:55", "text": "Are we are we already at the point where"}, {"end": "01:16:04", "start": "01:15:58", "text": "a private entity can put in its own"}, {"end": "01:16:06", "start": "01:16:01", "text": "reactor or is that so for these data"}, {"end": "01:16:08", "start": "01:16:04", "text": "centers you know that you're talking"}, {"end": "01:16:10", "start": "01:16:06", "text": "about all the land that's you know that"}, {"end": "01:16:12", "start": "01:16:08", "text": "has"}, {"end": "01:16:14", "start": "01:16:10", "text": "everything going for it the lin the gas"}, {"end": "01:16:16", "start": "01:16:12", "text": "and all that that's all sucked up and"}, {"end": "01:16:21", "start": "01:16:14", "text": "and is being built on or has been built"}, {"end": "01:16:24", "start": "01:16:16", "text": "on. So now you know what can can the"}, {"end": "01:16:28", "start": "01:16:21", "text": "data center just buy their own reactor"}, {"end": "01:16:30", "start": "01:16:24", "text": "and just totally bypass the public grid?"}, {"end": "01:16:33", "start": "01:16:28", "text": "Yeah. So Utah just put out uh"}, {"end": "01:16:36", "start": "01:16:30", "text": "legislation that that actually did that."}, {"end": "01:16:38", "start": "01:16:33", "text": "So previously in Utah, my understanding"}, {"end": "01:16:41", "start": "01:16:36", "text": "is you weren't really allowed to do"}, {"end": "01:16:44", "start": "01:16:38", "text": "behind the meter generation. you had to"}, {"end": "01:16:45", "start": "01:16:41", "text": "produce and hook into the grid as a way"}, {"end": "01:16:48", "start": "01:16:44", "text": "of supporting the grid and helping make"}, {"end": "01:16:49", "start": "01:16:45", "text": "sure that Utah's grid was strong. I"}, {"end": "01:16:52", "start": "01:16:48", "text": "think there's enough of this concern"}, {"end": "01:16:54", "start": "01:16:49", "text": "over bottleneck that recent reg uh"}, {"end": "01:16:56", "start": "01:16:52", "text": "legislation and regulation said if you"}, {"end": "01:16:57", "start": "01:16:54", "text": "can't get the power you need from the"}, {"end": "01:16:59", "start": "01:16:56", "text": "grid, you can go do a reactor behind the"}, {"end": "01:17:01", "start": "01:16:57", "text": "meter. And that was Utah. I think other"}, {"end": "01:17:02", "start": "01:16:59", "text": "state, many other states allow for this,"}, {"end": "01:17:04", "start": "01:17:01", "text": "too."}, {"end": "01:17:06", "start": "01:17:02", "text": "the real, you know, the real thing we're"}, {"end": "01:17:07", "start": "01:17:04", "text": "going to have to wait for on that front"}, {"end": "01:17:11", "start": "01:17:06", "text": "is seeing some of these smaller reactor"}, {"end": "01:17:15", "start": "01:17:07", "text": "formats um and reactor designs actually"}, {"end": "01:17:18", "start": "01:17:11", "text": "get uh licensed by the NRC. And so"}, {"end": "01:17:19", "start": "01:17:15", "text": "that'll be a few years. Um you know,"}, {"end": "01:17:22", "start": "01:17:18", "text": "that'll be them doing some testing"}, {"end": "01:17:24", "start": "01:17:19", "text": "initially on DOE land, for example,"}, {"end": "01:17:26", "start": "01:17:22", "text": "proving that the reactor works. 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So, then"}, {"end": "01:18:12", "start": "01:18:08", "text": "that's a two-year process. And then"}, {"end": "01:18:15", "start": "01:18:10", "text": "we're going to see them building them in"}, {"end": "01:18:16", "start": "01:18:12", "text": "parallel with getting um approvals or"}, {"end": "01:18:18", "start": "01:18:15", "text": "preparing to build them and then"}, {"end": "01:18:21", "start": "01:18:16", "text": "shipping them to the site. So, all in,"}, {"end": "01:18:23", "start": "01:18:18", "text": "you know, that's 3 4 years before you're"}, {"end": "01:18:24", "start": "01:18:21", "text": "seeing them behind the meter. So, it's"}, {"end": "01:18:26", "start": "01:18:23", "text": "actually it's not that these companies"}, {"end": "01:18:28", "start": "01:18:24", "text": "are not allowed to do that. It's that"}, {"end": "01:18:29", "start": "01:18:26", "text": "we're just at a point right now where"}, {"end": "01:18:31", "start": "01:18:28", "text": "we're still a couple years out from"}, {"end": "01:18:33", "start": "01:18:29", "text": "seeing those shipments of reactors."}, {"end": "01:18:35", "start": "01:18:31", "text": "Gotcha. Do you think this gets to the"}, {"end": "01:18:38", "start": "01:18:33", "text": "point where"}, {"end": "01:18:41", "start": "01:18:35", "text": "it goes down to the consumer like"}, {"end": "01:18:43", "start": "01:18:38", "text": "consumer grade under their home? Yep."}, {"end": "01:18:45", "start": "01:18:41", "text": "Something like that. I think that's a"}, {"end": "01:18:48", "start": "01:18:43", "text": "long way out. I think at some really"}, {"end": "01:18:50", "start": "01:18:45", "text": "tiny scale you start to lose scale"}, {"end": "01:18:54", "start": "01:18:48", "text": "efficiencies. So now you have to build"}, {"end": "01:18:56", "start": "01:18:50", "text": "something so small that"}, {"end": "01:18:57", "start": "01:18:54", "text": "you know you have all the systems you're"}, {"end": "01:18:59", "start": "01:18:56", "text": "trying to build it really compact."}, {"end": "01:19:00", "start": "01:18:57", "text": "You're trying to make it safe."}, {"end": "01:19:02", "start": "01:18:59", "text": "I think you're going to get so little"}, {"end": "01:19:04", "start": "01:19:00", "text": "power out of that for the average home."}, {"end": "01:19:06", "start": "01:19:02", "text": "You know average home consumption so"}, {"end": "01:19:08", "start": "01:19:04", "text": "small that that's not doesn't probably"}, {"end": "01:19:12", "start": "01:19:06", "text": "doesn't make sense. Just like you know"}, {"end": "01:19:14", "start": "01:19:08", "text": "at any of our homes we don't have like a"}, {"end": "01:19:15", "start": "01:19:12", "text": "natural gas mini turbine that's making"}, {"end": "01:19:17", "start": "01:19:14", "text": "our electricity. We just get it from the"}, {"end": "01:19:20", "start": "01:19:15", "text": "grid. So, I think the grid still has a"}, {"end": "01:19:22", "start": "01:19:17", "text": "major role to play and it's going to"}, {"end": "01:19:24", "start": "01:19:20", "text": "help us unlock the bigger formats that"}, {"end": "01:19:26", "start": "01:19:22", "text": "are going to be more cost effective. Um,"}, {"end": "01:19:27", "start": "01:19:24", "text": "rooftop solar is maybe the one"}, {"end": "01:19:29", "start": "01:19:26", "text": "exception. It's like you already have a"}, {"end": "01:19:31", "start": "01:19:27", "text": "roof, just put some solars on it. You"}, {"end": "01:19:32", "start": "01:19:29", "text": "don't have much civil cost of building"}, {"end": "01:19:35", "start": "01:19:31", "text": "the structure that's going to hold it."}, {"end": "01:19:37", "start": "01:19:32", "text": "Mhm. But in general, we don't people"}, {"end": "01:19:38", "start": "01:19:35", "text": "don't produce their own power because"}, {"end": "01:19:40", "start": "01:19:37", "text": "it's it's just so much more efficient to"}, {"end": "01:19:42", "start": "01:19:38", "text": "do it in some sort of centralized"}, {"end": "01:19:44", "start": "01:19:40", "text": "manner. Will the lines be able to handle"}, {"end": "01:19:48", "start": "01:19:42", "text": "the load"}, {"end": "01:19:51", "start": "01:19:44", "text": "um that we need? I mean I think say by"}, {"end": "01:19:53", "start": "01:19:48", "text": "20 2030 that a that AI and the data"}, {"end": "01:19:55", "start": "01:19:51", "text": "centers will will suck up all the energy"}, {"end": "01:19:57", "start": "01:19:53", "text": "that we have right now. Yeah. Their"}, {"end": "01:20:00", "start": "01:19:55", "text": "demand is projected to be the same as"}, {"end": "01:20:02", "start": "01:19:57", "text": "the grid capacity today. Mhm. Good news"}, {"end": "01:20:05", "start": "01:20:00", "text": "is I think a lot of that stuff is not"}, {"end": "01:20:07", "start": "01:20:02", "text": "really going to hit the grid. So if"}, {"end": "01:20:08", "start": "01:20:05", "text": "they're finding an isolated site to put"}, {"end": "01:20:09", "start": "01:20:07", "text": "their data center and they're going to"}, {"end": "01:20:12", "start": "01:20:08", "text": "put reactors there and maybe they're"}, {"end": "01:20:13", "start": "01:20:09", "text": "going to put natural gas there,"}, {"end": "01:20:15", "start": "01:20:12", "text": "that's not going to really put a big"}, {"end": "01:20:18", "start": "01:20:13", "text": "load on the grid. So the grid in that"}, {"end": "01:20:20", "start": "01:20:15", "text": "case could stay pretty much the same. If"}, {"end": "01:20:22", "start": "01:20:18", "text": "we are trying to quadruple nuclear"}, {"end": "01:20:25", "start": "01:20:20", "text": "production though and maybe double the"}, {"end": "01:20:27", "start": "01:20:22", "text": "grid overall to keep up with China or do"}, {"end": "01:20:29", "start": "01:20:25", "text": "something like what they did, then yeah,"}, {"end": "01:20:32", "start": "01:20:27", "text": "the grid's going to have to expand quite"}, {"end": "01:20:34", "start": "01:20:29", "text": "a bit. Have a major overhaul, huh? Do"}, {"end": "01:20:39", "start": "01:20:32", "text": "you do you see"}, {"end": "01:20:41", "start": "01:20:34", "text": "I mean, does does oil and gas and"}, {"end": "01:20:44", "start": "01:20:39", "text": "wind and solar do they have a place"}, {"end": "01:20:47", "start": "01:20:41", "text": "anymore? I think so. Yeah. Why? Uh, if"}, {"end": "01:20:49", "start": "01:20:44", "text": "this is the cheapest y then the most"}, {"end": "01:20:51", "start": "01:20:47", "text": "efficient,"}, {"end": "01:20:53", "start": "01:20:49", "text": "why why would those have a why would we"}, {"end": "01:20:54", "start": "01:20:51", "text": "need them?"}, {"end": "01:20:56", "start": "01:20:53", "text": "I think you could do it could you do it"}, {"end": "01:20:59", "start": "01:20:54", "text": "all with nuclear? Yes. Other than the"}, {"end": "01:21:00", "start": "01:20:56", "text": "automobiles, but Yeah. Yeah. And then"}, {"end": "01:21:02", "start": "01:20:59", "text": "even the automobiles maybe they run on"}, {"end": "01:21:04", "start": "01:21:00", "text": "fuel. Maybe you know there's company"}, {"end": "01:21:06", "start": "01:21:02", "text": "there's nuclear companies that have an"}, {"end": "01:21:09", "start": "01:21:04", "text": "explicit plan of saying we're going to"}, {"end": "01:21:12", "start": "01:21:06", "text": "build a reactor who is relatively large"}, {"end": "01:21:16", "start": "01:21:09", "text": "and so low cost that we can actually do"}, {"end": "01:21:17", "start": "01:21:12", "text": "the sustainable aviation fuel production"}, {"end": "01:21:20", "start": "01:21:16", "text": "there or other forms of fuel. We'll do"}, {"end": "01:21:24", "start": "01:21:17", "text": "carbon capture which costs energy takes"}, {"end": "01:21:26", "start": "01:21:20", "text": "you know takes energy adds cost but our"}, {"end": "01:21:28", "start": "01:21:24", "text": "nuclear energy is going to be so cheap"}, {"end": "01:21:29", "start": "01:21:26", "text": "we can afford to do the carbon capture"}, {"end": "01:21:32", "start": "01:21:28", "text": "or we'll colllocate with some industrial"}, {"end": "01:21:33", "start": "01:21:29", "text": "process will grab that carbon and we're"}, {"end": "01:21:35", "start": "01:21:32", "text": "going to turn that into a fuel and that"}, {"end": "01:21:37", "start": "01:21:33", "text": "fuel could be used by cars by airplanes."}, {"end": "01:21:38", "start": "01:21:35", "text": "What do you mean carbon capture? You"}, {"end": "01:21:40", "start": "01:21:37", "text": "mean pulling carbon out of the air?"}, {"end": "01:21:42", "start": "01:21:38", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple approaches."}, {"end": "01:21:44", "start": "01:21:40", "text": "One is pull it out of the air. People"}, {"end": "01:21:46", "start": "01:21:42", "text": "are working on technologies for that."}, {"end": "01:21:48", "start": "01:21:44", "text": "one is sit right next to an industrial"}, {"end": "01:21:50", "start": "01:21:46", "text": "facility that just would normally spit"}, {"end": "01:21:53", "start": "01:21:48", "text": "out carbon and we're just going to grab"}, {"end": "01:21:54", "start": "01:21:50", "text": "that carbon and use it in our process."}, {"end": "01:21:56", "start": "01:21:53", "text": "So those are the the two general"}, {"end": "01:21:57", "start": "01:21:54", "text": "categories that I've seen of people that"}, {"end": "01:22:00", "start": "01:21:56", "text": "want to do carbon capture for fuel"}, {"end": "01:22:03", "start": "01:21:57", "text": "production and doing that takes energy"}, {"end": "01:22:05", "start": "01:22:00", "text": "takes electricity but if you have cheap"}, {"end": "01:22:07", "start": "01:22:03", "text": "enough nuclear you could do it. So I"}, {"end": "01:22:11", "start": "01:22:05", "text": "think going back to the will everything"}, {"end": "01:22:12", "start": "01:22:07", "text": "run on nuclear um it's possible it's"}, {"end": "01:22:14", "start": "01:22:11", "text": "possible that that that happens but to"}, {"end": "01:22:16", "start": "01:22:12", "text": "get there we've got to make nuclear much"}, {"end": "01:22:19", "start": "01:22:14", "text": "cheaper. So then to your question of"}, {"end": "01:22:23", "start": "01:22:16", "text": "what about the other forms of energy"}, {"end": "01:22:26", "start": "01:22:19", "text": "I think you know nuclear is 20% today"}, {"end": "01:22:29", "start": "01:22:23", "text": "until it's really taking off we need to"}, {"end": "01:22:30", "start": "01:22:26", "text": "do everything and the data centers are"}, {"end": "01:22:31", "start": "01:22:29", "text": "going to need a lot more power in the"}, {"end": "01:22:34", "start": "01:22:30", "text": "next few years. How are we going to do"}, {"end": "01:22:36", "start": "01:22:31", "text": "that if the if reactors are three years"}, {"end": "01:22:38", "start": "01:22:34", "text": "away? So, we're going to see expansion"}, {"end": "01:22:40", "start": "01:22:36", "text": "of other things. We're going to see"}, {"end": "01:22:42", "start": "01:22:38", "text": "solar at some of these sites. Solar with"}, {"end": "01:22:44", "start": "01:22:40", "text": "a bunch of grid level storage. Maybe"}, {"end": "01:22:47", "start": "01:22:42", "text": "that grid level storage can run on old"}, {"end": "01:22:48", "start": "01:22:44", "text": "batteries that are recycled or cheap."}, {"end": "01:22:50", "start": "01:22:47", "text": "So, it doesn't need to be really"}, {"end": "01:22:52", "start": "01:22:48", "text": "expensive. Maybe there's a path there"}, {"end": "01:22:53", "start": "01:22:50", "text": "for people that really need power today"}, {"end": "01:22:55", "start": "01:22:52", "text": "and are willing to pay for it. You're"}, {"end": "01:22:57", "start": "01:22:53", "text": "going to see solar. I think rooftop"}, {"end": "01:22:59", "start": "01:22:55", "text": "solar can make sense because you already"}, {"end": "01:23:02", "start": "01:22:57", "text": "have the roof. Put the solar panels on."}, {"end": "01:23:04", "start": "01:22:59", "text": "Um, and then you know I think wind has"}, {"end": "01:23:06", "start": "01:23:02", "text": "fallen out of favor quite a bit. There's"}, {"end": "01:23:08", "start": "01:23:04", "text": "still places where there's good wind"}, {"end": "01:23:10", "start": "01:23:06", "text": "resource and we can use that and it's"}, {"end": "01:23:14", "start": "01:23:08", "text": "cost effective but it's intermittent. So"}, {"end": "01:23:17", "start": "01:23:10", "text": "you have to plan for that. And so AI AI"}, {"end": "01:23:19", "start": "01:23:14", "text": "data centers hyperscalers they want"}, {"end": "01:23:20", "start": "01:23:17", "text": "really really high uptime. And so I"}, {"end": "01:23:23", "start": "01:23:19", "text": "think that uptime is going to look like"}, {"end": "01:23:24", "start": "01:23:20", "text": "it maybe it could be a combo of wind and"}, {"end": "01:23:26", "start": "01:23:23", "text": "solar in some places which are"}, {"end": "01:23:28", "start": "01:23:24", "text": "supplemented by natural gas which could"}, {"end": "01:23:30", "start": "01:23:26", "text": "kick in when the wind's not blowing or"}, {"end": "01:23:32", "start": "01:23:28", "text": "the sun's not shining and then nuclear."}, {"end": "01:23:34", "start": "01:23:30", "text": "But nuclear is the ideal answer for them"}, {"end": "01:23:37", "start": "01:23:32", "text": "because it's it's safe. It's potentially"}, {"end": "01:23:40", "start": "01:23:34", "text": "really low cost and it's no carbon"}, {"end": "01:23:40", "start": "01:23:37", "text": "emission."}, {"end": "01:23:46", "start": "01:23:42", "text": "Man, what does this world even look like"}, {"end": "01:23:49", "start": "01:23:44", "text": "in 10 years, man? Yeah. I think"}, {"end": "01:23:52", "start": "01:23:46", "text": "everything's changing so fast. space,"}, {"end": "01:23:54", "start": "01:23:49", "text": "the auto industry, energy,"}, {"end": "01:23:57", "start": "01:23:52", "text": "AI,"}, {"end": "01:23:59", "start": "01:23:54", "text": "Neurolink, what I mean, what is it? What"}, {"end": "01:24:01", "start": "01:23:57", "text": "does it even look like? Yeah, I think"}, {"end": "01:24:02", "start": "01:23:59", "text": "it's it's I think it'll be good. I think"}, {"end": "01:24:04", "start": "01:24:01", "text": "it's going to be exciting. I think on"}, {"end": "01:24:07", "start": "01:24:02", "text": "the the AI side to me feels the hardest"}, {"end": "01:24:09", "start": "01:24:04", "text": "to predict because it's such such an"}, {"end": "01:24:12", "start": "01:24:07", "text": "exponential curve."}, {"end": "01:24:14", "start": "01:24:09", "text": "But automotive, I think, you know,"}, {"end": "01:24:17", "start": "01:24:12", "text": "electric vehicles are getting better and"}, {"end": "01:24:19", "start": "01:24:14", "text": "better. Um, you know, I have a Tesla. I"}, {"end": "01:24:21", "start": "01:24:17", "text": "like it."}, {"end": "01:24:23", "start": "01:24:19", "text": "I have a also a regular internal"}, {"end": "01:24:24", "start": "01:24:21", "text": "combustion car. I like that, too. So, I"}, {"end": "01:24:27", "start": "01:24:23", "text": "think we're going to see more electric"}, {"end": "01:24:29", "start": "01:24:24", "text": "cars. They'll get cheaper. They'll be"}, {"end": "01:24:31", "start": "01:24:27", "text": "more competitive. Uh power. I think"}, {"end": "01:24:33", "start": "01:24:29", "text": "power is going to be the big story. I"}, {"end": "01:24:37", "start": "01:24:31", "text": "think as we want to grow the economy, as"}, {"end": "01:24:38", "start": "01:24:33", "text": "we want to do AI, as EVs come online and"}, {"end": "01:24:41", "start": "01:24:37", "text": "gain market share, I think it's all"}, {"end": "01:24:44", "start": "01:24:38", "text": "going to be about energy production. And"}, {"end": "01:24:45", "start": "01:24:41", "text": "I think that's ultimately going to come"}, {"end": "01:24:46", "start": "01:24:44", "text": "back to nuclear. It's going to be a big"}, {"end": "01:24:48", "start": "01:24:45", "text": "part of the growth. And then that's"}, {"end": "01:24:51", "start": "01:24:46", "text": "going to come back to the fuel."}, {"end": "01:24:53", "start": "01:24:48", "text": "Do do you think I mean I know you said"}, {"end": "01:24:55", "start": "01:24:51", "text": "we this is kind of where I was going uh"}, {"end": "01:24:58", "start": "01:24:53", "text": "when I was asking if we're mining"}, {"end": "01:25:03", "start": "01:24:55", "text": "uranium right now. Do you think we will"}, {"end": "01:25:07", "start": "01:24:58", "text": "continue to mine our own uranium"}, {"end": "01:25:11", "start": "01:25:03", "text": "or will we take the oil and gas approach"}, {"end": "01:25:14", "start": "01:25:07", "text": "where we import you know from"}, {"end": "01:25:16", "start": "01:25:11", "text": "cuz we sat on a lot of reserves and now"}, {"end": "01:25:17", "start": "01:25:14", "text": "that everything's it sounds like"}, {"end": "01:25:19", "start": "01:25:16", "text": "everything's starting to move towards"}, {"end": "01:25:23", "start": "01:25:17", "text": "nuclear maybe we shouldn't have sat on"}, {"end": "01:25:25", "start": "01:25:19", "text": "those reserves y because those reserves"}, {"end": "01:25:27", "start": "01:25:23", "text": "are going to become obsolete and we"}, {"end": "01:25:29", "start": "01:25:25", "text": "missed a major opportunity. you know, if"}, {"end": "01:25:32", "start": "01:25:27", "text": "this happens that that we can never"}, {"end": "01:25:35", "start": "01:25:29", "text": "revisit. Yeah. Do you think and I I"}, {"end": "01:25:37", "start": "01:25:32", "text": "mean, me being a novice, that just"}, {"end": "01:25:39", "start": "01:25:35", "text": "sounds like a mistake to me. Like we we"}, {"end": "01:25:41", "start": "01:25:37", "text": "sat on these reserves. We didn't do"}, {"end": "01:25:44", "start": "01:25:39", "text": "anything with them. Now we're moving"}, {"end": "01:25:47", "start": "01:25:41", "text": "into nuclear."}, {"end": "01:25:49", "start": "01:25:44", "text": "Those become obsolete. We just missed"}, {"end": "01:25:51", "start": "01:25:47", "text": "out on a shitload of money, you know,"}, {"end": "01:25:53", "start": "01:25:49", "text": "for the United States by not using those"}, {"end": "01:25:55", "start": "01:25:51", "text": "reserves for ourself or exporting it."}, {"end": "01:25:58", "start": "01:25:53", "text": "And so do you think that will happen"}, {"end": "01:25:59", "start": "01:25:55", "text": "with the with uranium as well? Luckily,"}, {"end": "01:26:01", "start": "01:25:58", "text": "it's still it's still there. It's still"}, {"end": "01:26:04", "start": "01:25:59", "text": "under the ground, so we can start going"}, {"end": "01:26:06", "start": "01:26:01", "text": "after it and companies are. So, there's"}, {"end": "01:26:09", "start": "01:26:04", "text": "new mining projects in at least Texas"}, {"end": "01:26:12", "start": "01:26:06", "text": "and Wyoming that came online starting"}, {"end": "01:26:13", "start": "01:26:09", "text": "last year and are are ramping this year."}, {"end": "01:26:16", "start": "01:26:12", "text": "So, we're going to see more uranium"}, {"end": "01:26:18", "start": "01:26:13", "text": "production in the US. Um, you know, some"}, {"end": "01:26:20", "start": "01:26:16", "text": "some countries do have better or"}, {"end": "01:26:22", "start": "01:26:18", "text": "deposits than the US, really high or"}, {"end": "01:26:23", "start": "01:26:20", "text": "deposits. So, as you go in mine, it can"}, {"end": "01:26:25", "start": "01:26:22", "text": "be really easy to get the uranium that"}, {"end": "01:26:28", "start": "01:26:23", "text": "you need. So, it can still make sense to"}, {"end": "01:26:29", "start": "01:26:25", "text": "trade with other countries. Mhm. Um, if"}, {"end": "01:26:33", "start": "01:26:28", "text": "they can produce much cheaper than we"}, {"end": "01:26:36", "start": "01:26:29", "text": "can, but we have really large deposits"}, {"end": "01:26:38", "start": "01:26:33", "text": "uh that can take care of what we need"}, {"end": "01:26:39", "start": "01:26:36", "text": "for a while. And so, I think we're going"}, {"end": "01:26:43", "start": "01:26:38", "text": "to see that production come online. How"}, {"end": "01:26:49", "start": "01:26:39", "text": "big are our deposits compared to Russia"}, {"end": "01:26:49", "start": "01:26:43", "text": "or China? Uh, let's see."}, {"end": "01:26:54", "start": "01:26:49", "text": "compared to places like uh Australia,"}, {"end": "01:26:57", "start": "01:26:52", "text": "Canada, Kazakhstan, like Russia gets"}, {"end": "01:26:59", "start": "01:26:54", "text": "most of its uranium out of Kazakhstan,"}, {"end": "01:27:02", "start": "01:26:57", "text": "our deposits are not as good as theirs"}, {"end": "01:27:05", "start": "01:26:59", "text": "on uranium, but still years and years of"}, {"end": "01:27:08", "start": "01:27:02", "text": "production capacity. And so if we're"}, {"end": "01:27:09", "start": "01:27:05", "text": "even producing a fraction,"}, {"end": "01:27:13", "start": "01:27:08", "text": "you know, mining a fraction of what we"}, {"end": "01:27:14", "start": "01:27:09", "text": "need, we're talking decades of of"}, {"end": "01:27:17", "start": "01:27:13", "text": "potential production in the US. And I"}, {"end": "01:27:19", "start": "01:27:14", "text": "think it's similar to oil where people"}, {"end": "01:27:21", "start": "01:27:17", "text": "thought that we were at peak oil at one"}, {"end": "01:27:23", "start": "01:27:19", "text": "point and then you discover new ways to"}, {"end": "01:27:25", "start": "01:27:21", "text": "to find more. So discovery technologies"}, {"end": "01:27:28", "start": "01:27:23", "text": "get better, extraction technologies get"}, {"end": "01:27:31", "start": "01:27:25", "text": "better. Even even these new technologies"}, {"end": "01:27:32", "start": "01:27:28", "text": "in mining are an example of that where"}, {"end": "01:27:36", "start": "01:27:31", "text": "some of the deposits people are going"}, {"end": "01:27:39", "start": "01:27:32", "text": "after now are not really orrich deposits"}, {"end": "01:27:41", "start": "01:27:36", "text": "but through new techniques like um"}, {"end": "01:27:43", "start": "01:27:39", "text": "insitue recovery where you do the"}, {"end": "01:27:45", "start": "01:27:41", "text": "pumping and then extraction out of the"}, {"end": "01:27:48", "start": "01:27:43", "text": "ground with no no standard mining"}, {"end": "01:27:50", "start": "01:27:45", "text": "equipment, no digging, no open pits,"}, {"end": "01:27:53", "start": "01:27:48", "text": "much more self-contained and you know no"}, {"end": "01:27:55", "start": "01:27:50", "text": "uranium released in the process."}, {"end": "01:27:56", "start": "01:27:53", "text": "you can do that much cheaper. And so"}, {"end": "01:27:59", "start": "01:27:55", "text": "it's going to be one of these classic"}, {"end": "01:28:01", "start": "01:27:56", "text": "things where people predict that our"}, {"end": "01:28:03", "start": "01:27:59", "text": "reserves are at the limit and we're out"}, {"end": "01:28:05", "start": "01:28:01", "text": "and then technology actually is the"}, {"end": "01:28:06", "start": "01:28:03", "text": "answer of how you get much more out of"}, {"end": "01:28:08", "start": "01:28:05", "text": "the system than you ever thought you"}, {"end": "01:28:11", "start": "01:28:06", "text": "could. So, same thing happened in"}, {"end": "01:28:14", "start": "01:28:08", "text": "fracking where, you know, we we thought"}, {"end": "01:28:16", "start": "01:28:11", "text": "that the US did not have as much"}, {"end": "01:28:18", "start": "01:28:14", "text": "accessible fossil fuel as it did and"}, {"end": "01:28:20", "start": "01:28:16", "text": "then fracking came around and figured"}, {"end": "01:28:23", "start": "01:28:18", "text": "out, wait, there's ways to extract this"}, {"end": "01:28:26", "start": "01:28:20", "text": "natural gas. And not only is that good"}, {"end": "01:28:29", "start": "01:28:23", "text": "for energy cost or energy independence,"}, {"end": "01:28:30", "start": "01:28:26", "text": "but this natural gas has half the carbon"}, {"end": "01:28:33", "start": "01:28:29", "text": "emissions per unit of electricity than"}, {"end": "01:28:34", "start": "01:28:30", "text": "coal. And so, we should be doing this."}, {"end": "01:28:37", "start": "01:28:33", "text": "And so that was, you know, that's been"}, {"end": "01:28:39", "start": "01:28:34", "text": "the story the last decade or two. Did"}, {"end": "01:28:42", "start": "01:28:37", "text": "you just say Kazakhstan has some of the"}, {"end": "01:28:44", "start": "01:28:39", "text": "richest uranium? So do so let me ask you"}, {"end": "01:28:46", "start": "01:28:42", "text": "this. Do you see does the world move"}, {"end": "01:28:50", "start": "01:28:44", "text": "towards nuclear, which it sounds like it"}, {"end": "01:28:52", "start": "01:28:46", "text": "is. Do you see a do you see a power"}, {"end": "01:28:56", "start": "01:28:50", "text": "shift happening? Do you see a country"}, {"end": "01:28:58", "start": "01:28:52", "text": "like Kazakhstan rising up in the in the"}, {"end": "01:29:00", "start": "01:28:56", "text": "food chain and in big oil and gas"}, {"end": "01:29:03", "start": "01:28:58", "text": "countries"}, {"end": "01:29:04", "start": "01:29:00", "text": "coming down?"}, {"end": "01:29:07", "start": "01:29:03", "text": "oil and gas. I think fossil fuels is"}, {"end": "01:29:09", "start": "01:29:04", "text": "still something like 80% of US power"}, {"end": "01:29:12", "start": "01:29:07", "text": "production. Mhm. So in terms of"}, {"end": "01:29:13", "start": "01:29:09", "text": "geopolitical power shifts, I think"}, {"end": "01:29:16", "start": "01:29:12", "text": "fossil fuels will still be really"}, {"end": "01:29:18", "start": "01:29:13", "text": "important for a long time, for decades."}, {"end": "01:29:19", "start": "01:29:16", "text": "Okay. So it's not going to be sudden,"}, {"end": "01:29:22", "start": "01:29:18", "text": "but I think on the margins, you're going"}, {"end": "01:29:23", "start": "01:29:19", "text": "to see countries like like Kazakhstan"}, {"end": "01:29:25", "start": "01:29:22", "text": "potentially become more important as"}, {"end": "01:29:28", "start": "01:29:23", "text": "people think more and more about where"}, {"end": "01:29:30", "start": "01:29:25", "text": "are we getting our uranium. Um countries"}, {"end": "01:29:32", "start": "01:29:28", "text": "like Australia, Canada, Canada already"}, {"end": "01:29:35", "start": "01:29:30", "text": "mines a lot. So does Australia as they"}, {"end": "01:29:37", "start": "01:29:32", "text": "step up and decide how aggressive do we"}, {"end": "01:29:40", "start": "01:29:35", "text": "want to be on on uranium production on"}, {"end": "01:29:42", "start": "01:29:37", "text": "mining. I think it's it is up to many of"}, {"end": "01:29:44", "start": "01:29:40", "text": "the countries what their future is. Do"}, {"end": "01:29:47", "start": "01:29:42", "text": "you you know will they be pro- nuclear?"}, {"end": "01:29:48", "start": "01:29:44", "text": "Do they want to do not just mining but"}, {"end": "01:29:51", "start": "01:29:47", "text": "other things in nuclear? Do they want to"}, {"end": "01:29:53", "start": "01:29:48", "text": "have reactors? Um it's it's a"}, {"end": "01:29:55", "start": "01:29:51", "text": "complicated playing field that's going"}, {"end": "01:29:57", "start": "01:29:53", "text": "to depend on production, how fast new"}, {"end": "01:30:00", "start": "01:29:55", "text": "reactors are built, which countries do"}, {"end": "01:30:03", "start": "01:29:57", "text": "that, what trade agreements are set up."}, {"end": "01:30:04", "start": "01:30:00", "text": "Um, but it's it's absolutely like it"}, {"end": "01:30:07", "start": "01:30:03", "text": "over the next decade it could be"}, {"end": "01:30:08", "start": "01:30:04", "text": "tectonic shifts in in policy and in"}, {"end": "01:30:11", "start": "01:30:07", "text": "which countries are important and which"}, {"end": "01:30:14", "start": "01:30:08", "text": "ones become really the focal points for"}, {"end": "01:30:17", "start": "01:30:11", "text": "international negotiations. How focused"}, {"end": "01:30:18", "start": "01:30:14", "text": "is Canada on that? They've got uh they"}, {"end": "01:30:20", "start": "01:30:17", "text": "have a great industry and they have"}, {"end": "01:30:23", "start": "01:30:18", "text": "great ore deposits. And so there's a"}, {"end": "01:30:25", "start": "01:30:20", "text": "company in Canada called Kamico that"}, {"end": "01:30:26", "start": "01:30:23", "text": "does mining at a couple of these sites"}, {"end": "01:30:29", "start": "01:30:25", "text": "that are known to be really good and"}, {"end": "01:30:31", "start": "01:30:26", "text": "does a lot of production."}, {"end": "01:30:35", "start": "01:30:29", "text": "And then they do uh conversion to the"}, {"end": "01:30:37", "start": "01:30:31", "text": "gas as well. 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And the"}, {"end": "01:34:02", "start": "01:33:57", "text": "best part, Patreon members can ask our"}, {"end": "01:34:04", "start": "01:34:00", "text": "guests questions directly. Your insights"}, {"end": "01:34:07", "start": "01:34:02", "text": "can help shape the show. Join us on"}, {"end": "01:34:09", "start": "01:34:04", "text": "Patreon now. Support the mission and"}, {"end": "01:34:12", "start": "01:34:07", "text": "become part of the Sha Ryan Show's"}, {"end": "01:34:12", "start": "01:34:09", "text": "story."}, {"end": "01:34:15", "start": "01:34:12", "text": "Where are we going to get the water in"}, {"end": "01:34:18", "start": "01:34:13", "text": "all these western states to cool these"}, {"end": "01:34:21", "start": "01:34:15", "text": "reactors? Luckily, the water Yeah, good"}, {"end": "01:34:23", "start": "01:34:18", "text": "question. Um, same question applies to"}, {"end": "01:34:25", "start": "01:34:21", "text": "data centers. 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And"}, {"end": "01:35:08", "start": "01:35:04", "text": "so, to cool off, you just run it through"}, {"end": "01:35:10", "start": "01:35:05", "text": "a big fan and heat exchanger system just"}, {"end": "01:35:12", "start": "01:35:08", "text": "like a radiator on a car. And so, you"}, {"end": "01:35:14", "start": "01:35:10", "text": "don't need any water for cooling. So, no"}, {"end": "01:35:16", "start": "01:35:12", "text": "water consumption."}, {"end": "01:35:18", "start": "01:35:14", "text": "In fact, like if you can get if you can"}, {"end": "01:35:20", "start": "01:35:16", "text": "get nuclear cheap enough and now we're"}, {"end": "01:35:21", "start": "01:35:18", "text": "now we're actually producing the"}, {"end": "01:35:23", "start": "01:35:20", "text": "electricity and using that for some"}, {"end": "01:35:24", "start": "01:35:21", "text": "purpose and we we have a bunch of"}, {"end": "01:35:26", "start": "01:35:23", "text": "thermal left over. Could we use that"}, {"end": "01:35:29", "start": "01:35:24", "text": "thermal energy to do things like"}, {"end": "01:35:30", "start": "01:35:26", "text": "desalination? And so do you actually go"}, {"end": "01:35:32", "start": "01:35:29", "text": "from a something where you might think,"}, {"end": "01:35:36", "start": "01:35:30", "text": "okay, nuclear reactors were going to use"}, {"end": "01:35:38", "start": "01:35:32", "text": "up a lot of water and maybe the old old"}, {"end": "01:35:40", "start": "01:35:36", "text": "designs did use water but the new ones"}, {"end": "01:35:42", "start": "01:35:38", "text": "don't. Could you actually go from, you"}, {"end": "01:35:45", "start": "01:35:40", "text": "know, water consumptive to actually"}, {"end": "01:35:45", "start": "01:35:42", "text": "water creating?"}, {"end": "01:35:51", "start": "01:35:48", "text": "Wow. Yeah, I think we're going to see a"}, {"end": "01:35:52", "start": "01:35:50", "text": "lot of a lot of cool things. I think a"}, {"end": "01:35:54", "start": "01:35:51", "text": "lot of it's going to be driven by"}, {"end": "01:35:58", "start": "01:35:52", "text": "energy. I think the next decade's going"}, {"end": "01:36:01", "start": "01:35:54", "text": "to be all about energy. Even um even Sam"}, {"end": "01:36:04", "start": "01:35:58", "text": "Alman from OpenAI had some recent recent"}, {"end": "01:36:06", "start": "01:36:01", "text": "hearing or talk where he talked about um"}, {"end": "01:36:09", "start": "01:36:04", "text": "just the evolution of AI. And so you've"}, {"end": "01:36:10", "start": "01:36:06", "text": "got algorithms. Algorithms run on chips,"}, {"end": "01:36:14", "start": "01:36:09", "text": "but ultimately the chips need"}, {"end": "01:36:16", "start": "01:36:10", "text": "electricity. And what he said if uh"}, {"end": "01:36:17", "start": "01:36:14", "text": "thinking back to this interview, the"}, {"end": "01:36:19", "start": "01:36:16", "text": "algorithms are going to get better and"}, {"end": "01:36:20", "start": "01:36:17", "text": "better and better and cheaper and the"}, {"end": "01:36:21", "start": "01:36:19", "text": "chips will get cheaper and cheaper, but"}, {"end": "01:36:24", "start": "01:36:20", "text": "at the end of the day, you have to get"}, {"end": "01:36:27", "start": "01:36:21", "text": "the electrons and the electrons have a"}, {"end": "01:36:29", "start": "01:36:24", "text": "fundamental price and ultimately it's"}, {"end": "01:36:33", "start": "01:36:27", "text": "going to come down to that. So I think"}, {"end": "01:36:35", "start": "01:36:29", "text": "even the AI the AI competition between"}, {"end": "01:36:36", "start": "01:36:33", "text": "different companies in the US between"}, {"end": "01:36:38", "start": "01:36:35", "text": "different countries it's ultimately"}, {"end": "01:36:40", "start": "01:36:36", "text": "going to come back to the electricity"}, {"end": "01:36:41", "start": "01:36:38", "text": "production. So I think yeah next decade"}, {"end": "01:36:45", "start": "01:36:40", "text": "it's going to be all about all about"}, {"end": "01:36:47", "start": "01:36:41", "text": "power production AI military if if you"}, {"end": "01:36:49", "start": "01:36:45", "text": "think you need kinetics and military"}, {"end": "01:36:52", "start": "01:36:47", "text": "that comes back to manufacturing. If you"}, {"end": "01:36:54", "start": "01:36:49", "text": "think economics okay we have to have the"}, {"end": "01:36:57", "start": "01:36:52", "text": "biggest economy so that we can just have"}, {"end": "01:36:59", "start": "01:36:54", "text": "the most productive capacity energy. So"}, {"end": "01:37:01", "start": "01:36:57", "text": "I think next decade is going to be all"}, {"end": "01:37:02", "start": "01:36:59", "text": "about energy and we've stayed flat for a"}, {"end": "01:37:05", "start": "01:37:01", "text": "decade for 15 years we haven't done"}, {"end": "01:37:07", "start": "01:37:02", "text": "anything more like 20 years our grid's"}, {"end": "01:37:09", "start": "01:37:05", "text": "been pretty stagnant and if we want US"}, {"end": "01:37:10", "start": "01:37:07", "text": "leadership it's going to have to grow."}, {"end": "01:37:11", "start": "01:37:09", "text": "So I think that's that's going to be the"}, {"end": "01:37:13", "start": "01:37:10", "text": "story we see and it's going to be about"}, {"end": "01:37:14", "start": "01:37:11", "text": "solving"}, {"end": "01:37:18", "start": "01:37:13", "text": "different supply chain needs whether"}, {"end": "01:37:20", "start": "01:37:14", "text": "it's it's fuel maybe it's transformers"}, {"end": "01:37:22", "start": "01:37:18", "text": "maybe it's transmission all these things"}, {"end": "01:37:25", "start": "01:37:20", "text": "are going to come up it's going to be"}, {"end": "01:37:28", "start": "01:37:22", "text": "chips are we actually you know when you"}, {"end": "01:37:30", "start": "01:37:25", "text": "talk about China has doubled their power"}, {"end": "01:37:34", "start": "01:37:28", "text": "or or doubled doubled what we have"}, {"end": "01:37:36", "start": "01:37:30", "text": "correct are they I mean they also have a"}, {"end": "01:37:39", "start": "01:37:34", "text": "lot more people yeah so are they are"}, {"end": "01:37:41", "start": "01:37:36", "text": "they seeing the benefits of having that"}, {"end": "01:37:43", "start": "01:37:39", "text": "much more power production than we do or"}, {"end": "01:37:46", "start": "01:37:41", "text": "is it equivalent because they have so"}, {"end": "01:37:49", "start": "01:37:43", "text": "many more consumers of energy. I think a"}, {"end": "01:37:51", "start": "01:37:46", "text": "lot of that um we'd have to go back to"}, {"end": "01:37:53", "start": "01:37:49", "text": "that that chart and see exactly where is"}, {"end": "01:37:55", "start": "01:37:51", "text": "China today, where were they before in"}, {"end": "01:37:56", "start": "01:37:53", "text": "terms of per capita, but I think a lot"}, {"end": "01:37:59", "start": "01:37:55", "text": "of that production, the doubling of"}, {"end": "01:38:01", "start": "01:37:56", "text": "their grid relative to our grid, a lot"}, {"end": "01:38:03", "start": "01:37:59", "text": "of that's gone into manufacturing."}, {"end": "01:38:05", "start": "01:38:01", "text": "And so, you know, we've shifted"}, {"end": "01:38:07", "start": "01:38:03", "text": "manufacturing from the US to overseas. A"}, {"end": "01:38:09", "start": "01:38:05", "text": "lot of that's in China now. we've let"}, {"end": "01:38:11", "start": "01:38:07", "text": "them do it. You know, a big part of that"}, {"end": "01:38:13", "start": "01:38:09", "text": "people thought was, well, Chinese labor"}, {"end": "01:38:16", "start": "01:38:11", "text": "is much cheaper, but a lot of these"}, {"end": "01:38:17", "start": "01:38:13", "text": "processes can be automated. And so once"}, {"end": "01:38:20", "start": "01:38:16", "text": "you automate it, it just comes back to"}, {"end": "01:38:22", "start": "01:38:17", "text": "energy cost. And so China said, let's"}, {"end": "01:38:24", "start": "01:38:20", "text": "let's double our grid. Let's let's keep"}, {"end": "01:38:26", "start": "01:38:22", "text": "going. Let's work on tripling our grid"}, {"end": "01:38:28", "start": "01:38:24", "text": "and we'll do it in the cheapest way"}, {"end": "01:38:30", "start": "01:38:26", "text": "possible because we want to win on"}, {"end": "01:38:32", "start": "01:38:28", "text": "manufacturing and get all this economic"}, {"end": "01:38:34", "start": "01:38:30", "text": "activity over here. Meanwhile, the US"}, {"end": "01:38:36", "start": "01:38:32", "text": "has said"}, {"end": "01:38:37", "start": "01:38:34", "text": "um you know we have a bunch of"}, {"end": "01:38:39", "start": "01:38:36", "text": "regulations which are good and probably"}, {"end": "01:38:41", "start": "01:38:37", "text": "some that are unnecessary and have"}, {"end": "01:38:43", "start": "01:38:39", "text": "slowed us down and so we haven't done"}, {"end": "01:38:45", "start": "01:38:41", "text": "the growth and you know we've been very"}, {"end": "01:38:48", "start": "01:38:43", "text": "thoughtful about um emissions"}, {"end": "01:38:51", "start": "01:38:45", "text": "environmental impact carbon. Meanwhile,"}, {"end": "01:38:54", "start": "01:38:48", "text": "China's doubling tripling their grid and"}, {"end": "01:38:55", "start": "01:38:51", "text": "has done a lot of that with coal. And so"}, {"end": "01:38:58", "start": "01:38:54", "text": "we've shifted manufacturing here that"}, {"end": "01:39:00", "start": "01:38:55", "text": "would have been cleaner"}, {"end": "01:39:03", "start": "01:38:58", "text": "uh over there and just probably ended up"}, {"end": "01:39:04", "start": "01:39:00", "text": "net producing more carbon than um than"}, {"end": "01:39:06", "start": "01:39:03", "text": "we would have, more pollutants than we"}, {"end": "01:39:08", "start": "01:39:04", "text": "would have and just kind of outsource"}, {"end": "01:39:09", "start": "01:39:06", "text": "that. But as we know, carbon flows"}, {"end": "01:39:12", "start": "01:39:08", "text": "everywhere. So if you're really worried"}, {"end": "01:39:14", "start": "01:39:09", "text": "about carbon emissions, letting China"}, {"end": "01:39:16", "start": "01:39:12", "text": "double their grid with coal and move"}, {"end": "01:39:18", "start": "01:39:14", "text": "manufacturing, energy intensive"}, {"end": "01:39:20", "start": "01:39:16", "text": "manufacturing there is not actually the"}, {"end": "01:39:23", "start": "01:39:18", "text": "answer. The answer is the US has to"}, {"end": "01:39:25", "start": "01:39:20", "text": "unblock building here, doing industrial"}, {"end": "01:39:27", "start": "01:39:23", "text": "activity, do it cleanly, do it with"}, {"end": "01:39:30", "start": "01:39:25", "text": "nuclear or other sources, even natural"}, {"end": "01:39:32", "start": "01:39:27", "text": "gas, half the carbon emissions of coal,"}, {"end": "01:39:34", "start": "01:39:30", "text": "and the world would be way better off."}, {"end": "01:39:35", "start": "01:39:32", "text": "And so, I think their grid doubling"}, {"end": "01:39:37", "start": "01:39:34", "text": "hasn't just meant that everyone there"}, {"end": "01:39:39", "start": "01:39:35", "text": "has a better quality of life. I think it"}, {"end": "01:39:41", "start": "01:39:37", "text": "just means that we've taken a lot of"}, {"end": "01:39:44", "start": "01:39:39", "text": "manufacturing from here and done it over"}, {"end": "01:39:48", "start": "01:39:41", "text": "there. Gotcha. Gotcha. Do you have any"}, {"end": "01:39:51", "start": "01:39:44", "text": "insight on from a consumer standpoint"}, {"end": "01:39:54", "start": "01:39:48", "text": "just a household how"}, {"end": "01:39:57", "start": "01:39:51", "text": "what kind of energy prices can we expect"}, {"end": "01:40:00", "start": "01:39:54", "text": "you know when this by 2030"}, {"end": "01:40:02", "start": "01:39:57", "text": "it's going to depend a lot on what we"}, {"end": "01:40:04", "start": "01:40:00", "text": "how we implement all this so you have"}, {"end": "01:40:06", "start": "01:40:02", "text": "huge variation between states so I think"}, {"end": "01:40:10", "start": "01:40:04", "text": "a lot of it comes down to regulation"}, {"end": "01:40:12", "start": "01:40:06", "text": "okay so you know some states"}, {"end": "01:40:15", "start": "01:40:10", "text": "you know you've got retail electricity"}, {"end": "01:40:17", "start": "01:40:12", "text": "costs in in a single digit sense."}, {"end": "01:40:19", "start": "01:40:15", "text": "California, I think you can get into the"}, {"end": "01:40:22", "start": "01:40:17", "text": "30s. So between states, you can be"}, {"end": "01:40:25", "start": "01:40:19", "text": "triple. So clearly that's not technology"}, {"end": "01:40:27", "start": "01:40:22", "text": "driven, that's regul regulatory driven."}, {"end": "01:40:29", "start": "01:40:25", "text": "And so I think a a lot of how this plays"}, {"end": "01:40:31", "start": "01:40:27", "text": "out is going to be what do we do on the"}, {"end": "01:40:34", "start": "01:40:29", "text": "regulatory side? We have cheap sources"}, {"end": "01:40:36", "start": "01:40:31", "text": "of energy. People could have them. You"}, {"end": "01:40:38", "start": "01:40:34", "text": "know, the grid is currently capable of"}, {"end": "01:40:39", "start": "01:40:36", "text": "shipping electricity to people's homes"}, {"end": "01:40:41", "start": "01:40:38", "text": "at the level that we consume them"}, {"end": "01:40:44", "start": "01:40:39", "text": "consume electricity."}, {"end": "01:40:47", "start": "01:40:41", "text": "So, with net new sources coming on the"}, {"end": "01:40:49", "start": "01:40:44", "text": "grid, it should get cheaper,"}, {"end": "01:40:52", "start": "01:40:47", "text": "but that's going to depend on"}, {"end": "01:40:54", "start": "01:40:49", "text": "a lot of different factors. Um, it's"}, {"end": "01:40:58", "start": "01:40:52", "text": "going to depend on"}, {"end": "01:41:00", "start": "01:40:54", "text": "who sets the rates. Um,"}, {"end": "01:41:01", "start": "01:40:58", "text": "how electricity is priced? Do you have"}, {"end": "01:41:03", "start": "01:41:00", "text": "some infrastructure costs and then some"}, {"end": "01:41:04", "start": "01:41:01", "text": "generation costs? So, se will there be"}, {"end": "01:41:07", "start": "01:41:03", "text": "separation of transmission and"}, {"end": "01:41:09", "start": "01:41:04", "text": "generation costs everywhere? Um, what is"}, {"end": "01:41:10", "start": "01:41:07", "text": "the balance between those two? How much"}, {"end": "01:41:13", "start": "01:41:09", "text": "were we paying for the transmission? How"}, {"end": "01:41:14", "start": "01:41:10", "text": "much were we paying for the generation?"}, {"end": "01:41:17", "start": "01:41:13", "text": "Um, there were some shifts in that in"}, {"end": "01:41:18", "start": "01:41:14", "text": "California where it was more bundled and"}, {"end": "01:41:21", "start": "01:41:17", "text": "as people did more and more rooftop"}, {"end": "01:41:22", "start": "01:41:18", "text": "solar, I think it was separated because"}, {"end": "01:41:23", "start": "01:41:21", "text": "the utilities were having a harder time"}, {"end": "01:41:26", "start": "01:41:22", "text": "paying for their existing"}, {"end": "01:41:28", "start": "01:41:23", "text": "infrastructure. And so how that all goes"}, {"end": "01:41:30", "start": "01:41:26", "text": "in each state is going to be the real"}, {"end": "01:41:31", "start": "01:41:28", "text": "driver. I think I think we have the"}, {"end": "01:41:34", "start": "01:41:30", "text": "ability to produce as much electricity"}, {"end": "01:41:36", "start": "01:41:31", "text": "as we want um through all these"}, {"end": "01:41:38", "start": "01:41:34", "text": "different methods, but how that actually"}, {"end": "01:41:43", "start": "01:41:36", "text": "makes its way to people's homes depends"}, {"end": "01:41:45", "start": "01:41:38", "text": "on state level and federal level policy"}, {"end": "01:41:47", "start": "01:41:43", "text": "as well as as well as things like uh"}, {"end": "01:41:49", "start": "01:41:45", "text": "NEPA, which is the environmental regime"}, {"end": "01:41:51", "start": "01:41:47", "text": "for"}, {"end": "01:41:53", "start": "01:41:49", "text": "um standardizing a lot of these federal"}, {"end": "01:41:56", "start": "01:41:51", "text": "approvals on large scale infrastructure"}, {"end": "01:41:59", "start": "01:41:53", "text": "projects um which which has slowed down"}, {"end": "01:42:01", "start": "01:41:56", "text": "things like new transmission lines. And"}, {"end": "01:42:03", "start": "01:41:59", "text": "so the degree to which that gets"}, {"end": "01:42:05", "start": "01:42:01", "text": "reformed or looked at or how can we"}, {"end": "01:42:07", "start": "01:42:03", "text": "still have all the safety that we that"}, {"end": "01:42:08", "start": "01:42:05", "text": "we always had that we want the envir"}, {"end": "01:42:10", "start": "01:42:07", "text": "environmental protections, but how can"}, {"end": "01:42:13", "start": "01:42:08", "text": "we streamline this to help things go"}, {"end": "01:42:16", "start": "01:42:10", "text": "faster? I think you're going to, you"}, {"end": "01:42:18", "start": "01:42:13", "text": "know, big big picture. You've got two"}, {"end": "01:42:21", "start": "01:42:16", "text": "curves. You've got the demand curve and"}, {"end": "01:42:23", "start": "01:42:18", "text": "you've got the supply curve. 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That demand is"}, {"end": "01:42:50", "start": "01:42:45", "text": "going to be there. It's up to us how how"}, {"end": "01:42:52", "start": "01:42:48", "text": "quickly do we bring on supply. So, I"}, {"end": "01:42:53", "start": "01:42:50", "text": "think that's it's that balance between"}, {"end": "01:42:56", "start": "01:42:52", "text": "supply and demand that's going to really"}, {"end": "01:42:59", "start": "01:42:53", "text": "drive where prices go and where what"}, {"end": "01:43:02", "start": "01:42:56", "text": "people experience. Have you have you"}, {"end": "01:43:04", "start": "01:42:59", "text": "ever heard of um Steve Quast and his"}, {"end": "01:43:06", "start": "01:43:02", "text": "company Space Build? I know you had him"}, {"end": "01:43:08", "start": "01:43:04", "text": "on recently. I listened to part of the"}, {"end": "01:43:10", "start": "01:43:06", "text": "podcast. It was Yeah. Really"}, {"end": "01:43:13", "start": "01:43:08", "text": "interesting. Yeah. He he was me he had"}, {"end": "01:43:15", "start": "01:43:10", "text": "mentioned that China is has is putting"}, {"end": "01:43:18", "start": "01:43:13", "text": "or has put a nuclear power plant in"}, {"end": "01:43:21", "start": "01:43:15", "text": "space"}, {"end": "01:43:23", "start": "01:43:18", "text": "and that"}, {"end": "01:43:27", "start": "01:43:21", "text": "we could have the capability of doing"}, {"end": "01:43:30", "start": "01:43:23", "text": "that nuclear or solar and beaming"}, {"end": "01:43:32", "start": "01:43:27", "text": "beaming energy into"}, {"end": "01:43:34", "start": "01:43:30", "text": "something like an antenna. Mhm. What are"}, {"end": "01:43:35", "start": "01:43:32", "text": "your what are your thoughts on that?"}, {"end": "01:43:37", "start": "01:43:34", "text": "Yeah, there's a few startups working on"}, {"end": "01:43:40", "start": "01:43:35", "text": "this right now actually. 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I think there's,"}, {"end": "01:44:05", "start": "01:44:01", "text": "you know, we need to see the launch"}, {"end": "01:44:06", "start": "01:44:02", "text": "costs come down by a lot with Starship"}, {"end": "01:44:08", "start": "01:44:05", "text": "succeeding and really scaling and early"}, {"end": "01:44:11", "start": "01:44:06", "text": "years of Starship are going to be"}, {"end": "01:44:12", "start": "01:44:08", "text": "dedicated to Starlink launches, I would"}, {"end": "01:44:16", "start": "01:44:11", "text": "imagine, just to get the rest of that"}, {"end": "01:44:18", "start": "01:44:12", "text": "consolation up. 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But it could be anything from"}, {"end": "01:44:34", "start": "01:44:31", "text": "beaming power to like a forward deployed"}, {"end": "01:44:37", "start": "01:44:33", "text": "unit that needs to be somewhere really"}, {"end": "01:44:40", "start": "01:44:34", "text": "remote and still have uh the ability to"}, {"end": "01:44:44", "start": "01:44:37", "text": "power things, beaming light onto an"}, {"end": "01:44:46", "start": "01:44:40", "text": "area, similar applications. Um or doing"}, {"end": "01:44:49", "start": "01:44:44", "text": "things like, hey, how can we redirect"}, {"end": "01:44:50", "start": "01:44:46", "text": "energy for industrial use uh affordably"}, {"end": "01:44:54", "start": "01:44:49", "text": "where maybe it makes the difference"}, {"end": "01:44:55", "start": "01:44:50", "text": "between that industrial process working"}, {"end": "01:44:58", "start": "01:44:54", "text": "or not working based on the energy cost"}, {"end": "01:45:01", "start": "01:44:55", "text": "there. So, I think we're seeing it on"}, {"end": "01:45:04", "start": "01:44:58", "text": "the solar side. On the nuclear side, I"}, {"end": "01:45:06", "start": "01:45:01", "text": "actually don't know what the US is"}, {"end": "01:45:08", "start": "01:45:04", "text": "working on there or what's planned. And,"}, {"end": "01:45:09", "start": "01:45:06", "text": "you know, I would think that that would"}, {"end": "01:45:12", "start": "01:45:08", "text": "probably be under a DoD program that"}, {"end": "01:45:14", "start": "01:45:09", "text": "would be compartmentalized if if that"}, {"end": "01:45:17", "start": "01:45:12", "text": "was the case. But, um, yeah, it sounds"}, {"end": "01:45:21", "start": "01:45:14", "text": "like China's doing things. And, you"}, {"end": "01:45:21", "start": "01:45:17", "text": "know, that has a lot of implications."}, {"end": "01:45:26", "start": "01:45:21", "text": "So, you were at SpaceX when there was"}, {"end": "01:45:29", "start": "01:45:23", "text": "only 30 employees. Yeah. 35. Somewhere"}, {"end": "01:45:32", "start": "01:45:26", "text": "around 35. Wow. Yeah, it was cool. How"}, {"end": "01:45:33", "start": "01:45:29", "text": "was that? It was fun. Um, you know, I"}, {"end": "01:45:36", "start": "01:45:32", "text": "think when you're in when you're in the"}, {"end": "01:45:37", "start": "01:45:33", "text": "middle of these things,"}, {"end": "01:45:40", "start": "01:45:36", "text": "you don't really understand the the"}, {"end": "01:45:44", "start": "01:45:37", "text": "gravity of it or the implications of it."}, {"end": "01:45:46", "start": "01:45:40", "text": "Um, you know, back to 2002, the US had"}, {"end": "01:45:48", "start": "01:45:44", "text": "something like 20% of global launch"}, {"end": "01:45:49", "start": "01:45:46", "text": "capacity."}, {"end": "01:45:53", "start": "01:45:48", "text": "today based on everything SpaceX has"}, {"end": "01:45:56", "start": "01:45:49", "text": "done over 23 years. People forget that"}, {"end": "01:45:58", "start": "01:45:53", "text": "it's been 23 years. That's not some"}, {"end": "01:46:01", "start": "01:45:56", "text": "fiveyear overnight success, it's two"}, {"end": "01:46:03", "start": "01:45:58", "text": "over two decades of building."}, {"end": "01:46:07", "start": "01:46:01", "text": "Took a long time. We went from 20% of"}, {"end": "01:46:10", "start": "01:46:03", "text": "launch capacity to now believe it's it's"}, {"end": "01:46:13", "start": "01:46:07", "text": "like 90% of total 80% total mass to"}, {"end": "01:46:16", "start": "01:46:10", "text": "orbit in the world. 80 90%. No kidding."}, {"end": "01:46:19", "start": "01:46:13", "text": "Yeah. So the US went from, you know,"}, {"end": "01:46:21", "start": "01:46:16", "text": "third place, second, third place to now"}, {"end": "01:46:23", "start": "01:46:19", "text": "wildly first place. And if we hadn't"}, {"end": "01:46:27", "start": "01:46:21", "text": "done that, China would be the leader in"}, {"end": "01:46:29", "start": "01:46:23", "text": "launch capacity. 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First the Falcon 1, then the"}, {"end": "01:46:52", "start": "01:46:48", "text": "Falcon 9, and just working through the"}, {"end": "01:46:54", "start": "01:46:50", "text": "inevitable challenges of engineering."}, {"end": "01:46:57", "start": "01:46:52", "text": "You know, we were doing a clean sheet"}, {"end": "01:47:00", "start": "01:46:54", "text": "redesign of a rocket engine, saying,"}, {"end": "01:47:03", "start": "01:46:57", "text": "\"Okay, Northstar mission, we want to"}, {"end": "01:47:05", "start": "01:47:00", "text": "make humanity multilanetary. We want to"}, {"end": "01:47:07", "start": "01:47:03", "text": "before that's going to happen, we're"}, {"end": "01:47:09", "start": "01:47:05", "text": "going to have to commercialize space. If"}, {"end": "01:47:11", "start": "01:47:07", "text": "space is going to become commercialized,"}, {"end": "01:47:14", "start": "01:47:09", "text": "launch has to get way cheaper. a tenth"}, {"end": "01:47:16", "start": "01:47:11", "text": "the cost, ideally less. You know, you"}, {"end": "01:47:18", "start": "01:47:14", "text": "can't you can't spend all this money to"}, {"end": "01:47:20", "start": "01:47:16", "text": "put something small with only limited"}, {"end": "01:47:22", "start": "01:47:18", "text": "utility into space. And at the old"}, {"end": "01:47:25", "start": "01:47:20", "text": "launch cost, there were only a few"}, {"end": "01:47:27", "start": "01:47:22", "text": "applications that made sense. So, let's"}, {"end": "01:47:29", "start": "01:47:25", "text": "bring launch cost down. And that means"}, {"end": "01:47:30", "start": "01:47:27", "text": "we can't use the same technology we've"}, {"end": "01:47:32", "start": "01:47:29", "text": "been using. We can't we can't do that"}, {"end": "01:47:34", "start": "01:47:30", "text": "with the space shuttle. The space"}, {"end": "01:47:36", "start": "01:47:32", "text": "shuttle has been running. This was the"}, {"end": "01:47:38", "start": "01:47:34", "text": "mindset at the time. Space shuttle has"}, {"end": "01:47:40", "start": "01:47:36", "text": "been running for over a decade and we"}, {"end": "01:47:42", "start": "01:47:38", "text": "see what those costs are. it averages"}, {"end": "01:47:44", "start": "01:47:40", "text": "out to like a billion dollars per"}, {"end": "01:47:46", "start": "01:47:42", "text": "launch. That's not going to work. We"}, {"end": "01:47:49", "start": "01:47:44", "text": "have to start over and we're just going"}, {"end": "01:47:51", "start": "01:47:46", "text": "to question everything. So, some of the"}, {"end": "01:47:52", "start": "01:47:49", "text": "principles that we had there were, you"}, {"end": "01:47:54", "start": "01:47:51", "text": "know, it all started with a mission, a"}, {"end": "01:47:58", "start": "01:47:52", "text": "very, very clear mission. We're going to"}, {"end": "01:48:00", "start": "01:47:54", "text": "optimize on dollars to get a kilo or a"}, {"end": "01:48:02", "start": "01:47:58", "text": "pound of of payload into an orbit."}, {"end": "01:48:04", "start": "01:48:00", "text": "That's it. Don't care how we do it."}, {"end": "01:48:07", "start": "01:48:02", "text": "That's what we're doing. Bringing the"}, {"end": "01:48:09", "start": "01:48:04", "text": "cost down. And so that meant we have one"}, {"end": "01:48:10", "start": "01:48:07", "text": "goal and we're just going to rethink"}, {"end": "01:48:13", "start": "01:48:09", "text": "everything to get there. We're going to"}, {"end": "01:48:15", "start": "01:48:10", "text": "rethink what our engine technology is."}, {"end": "01:48:16", "start": "01:48:13", "text": "We're going to just go with the"}, {"end": "01:48:18", "start": "01:48:15", "text": "simplest,"}, {"end": "01:48:21", "start": "01:48:16", "text": "lowest cost, reliable engine we possibly"}, {"end": "01:48:23", "start": "01:48:18", "text": "can. 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We're going to"}, {"end": "01:48:40", "start": "01:48:37", "text": "have nine really low cost ones."}, {"end": "01:48:42", "start": "01:48:38", "text": "Together, they'll equal the output of"}, {"end": "01:48:43", "start": "01:48:40", "text": "the big one. Won't be as efficient."}, {"end": "01:48:45", "start": "01:48:42", "text": "We're going to need a little bit more"}, {"end": "01:48:47", "start": "01:48:43", "text": "fuel to get there. Maybe our payload"}, {"end": "01:48:50", "start": "01:48:45", "text": "that we can bring up slightly smaller"}, {"end": "01:48:52", "start": "01:48:47", "text": "relative to the total fuel, but our"}, {"end": "01:48:55", "start": "01:48:50", "text": "vehicle is so low cost that we're going"}, {"end": "01:48:56", "start": "01:48:52", "text": "to win just on dollars. back to that"}, {"end": "01:49:01", "start": "01:48:55", "text": "northstar goal of dollars per kilo to"}, {"end": "01:49:03", "start": "01:48:56", "text": "orbit and so yeah 2003 when I joined as"}, {"end": "01:49:06", "start": "01:49:01", "text": "an intern that was the mindset um there"}, {"end": "01:49:09", "start": "01:49:03", "text": "was an employee handbook I opened on the"}, {"end": "01:49:11", "start": "01:49:06", "text": "first day and I think the first line was"}, {"end": "01:49:13", "start": "01:49:09", "text": "something like this is not a science"}, {"end": "01:49:16", "start": "01:49:11", "text": "experiment we are not here to do new"}, {"end": "01:49:18", "start": "01:49:13", "text": "science we're here to do engineering"}, {"end": "01:49:21", "start": "01:49:16", "text": "really lowcost engineering and so the"}, {"end": "01:49:23", "start": "01:49:18", "text": "team that was assembled to do that was"}, {"end": "01:49:24", "start": "01:49:21", "text": "some people from aerospace so that we"}, {"end": "01:49:26", "start": "01:49:23", "text": "knew what the range of technology ies"}, {"end": "01:49:29", "start": "01:49:24", "text": "was we knew how things had to be done,"}, {"end": "01:49:31", "start": "01:49:26", "text": "what are the real requirements"}, {"end": "01:49:34", "start": "01:49:29", "text": "and then people from the automotive"}, {"end": "01:49:36", "start": "01:49:31", "text": "world who knew how to build, you know,"}, {"end": "01:49:38", "start": "01:49:34", "text": "machines really cheap. 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And then"}, {"end": "01:52:51", "start": "01:52:46", "text": "yeah, the last five five plus years has"}, {"end": "01:52:54", "start": "01:52:49", "text": "been people now working on the next"}, {"end": "01:52:57", "start": "01:52:51", "text": "generation vehicle of of Starship, which"}, {"end": "01:52:58", "start": "01:52:54", "text": "whole new effort, whole new engines,"}, {"end": "01:53:00", "start": "01:52:57", "text": "whole new architecture, but that's"}, {"end": "01:53:02", "start": "01:52:58", "text": "what's going to get Space Launch down"}, {"end": "01:53:05", "start": "01:53:00", "text": "another 10X, which then unlocks all"}, {"end": "01:53:07", "start": "01:53:02", "text": "those different applications like, you"}, {"end": "01:53:10", "start": "01:53:05", "text": "know, solar energy production in space"}, {"end": "01:53:12", "start": "01:53:07", "text": "for some some things and space"}, {"end": "01:53:14", "start": "01:53:10", "text": "constellations and maybe a bunch of"}, {"end": "01:53:16", "start": "01:53:12", "text": "other things, too. Wow."}, {"end": "01:53:19", "start": "01:53:14", "text": "You think we're going to Mars? Yeah, I"}, {"end": "01:53:21", "start": "01:53:16", "text": "think we're going. Do you really? Yeah,"}, {"end": "01:53:24", "start": "01:53:19", "text": "I think it'll all I mean what next year"}, {"end": "01:53:28", "start": "01:53:21", "text": "is the next window and I think internal"}, {"end": "01:53:32", "start": "01:53:24", "text": "internal goal at SpaceX is let's let's"}, {"end": "01:53:33", "start": "01:53:28", "text": "ship something in 2026. Damn. Yeah. If"}, {"end": "01:53:35", "start": "01:53:32", "text": "you don't go 2026, you have to wait, I"}, {"end": "01:53:38", "start": "01:53:33", "text": "think, a couple more years before a good"}, {"end": "01:53:41", "start": "01:53:35", "text": "window opens again. So, there's urgency."}, {"end": "01:53:46", "start": "01:53:38", "text": "What's the window that I should know? I"}, {"end": "01:53:48", "start": "01:53:41", "text": "think it's it's um you can always go but"}, {"end": "01:53:51", "start": "01:53:46", "text": "when the planets are very close the"}, {"end": "01:53:53", "start": "01:53:48", "text": "energy that's required is much lower. So"}, {"end": "01:53:55", "start": "01:53:51", "text": "if you want to get there quickly"}, {"end": "01:53:58", "start": "01:53:53", "text": "something like a six-month journey"}, {"end": "01:54:00", "start": "01:53:55", "text": "you've got to go in one of these periods"}, {"end": "01:54:01", "start": "01:53:58", "text": "and these periods I think are every"}, {"end": "01:54:03", "start": "01:54:00", "text": "could be wrong I think they're every"}, {"end": "01:54:05", "start": "01:54:01", "text": "three or four years."}, {"end": "01:54:07", "start": "01:54:03", "text": "Yeah they're not every decade they're"}, {"end": "01:54:08", "start": "01:54:05", "text": "not every year it's it's in the middle."}, {"end": "01:54:11", "start": "01:54:07", "text": "So you miss this next window, you're"}, {"end": "01:54:14", "start": "01:54:08", "text": "waiting a little bit. And so I think,"}, {"end": "01:54:16", "start": "01:54:11", "text": "you know, NASA has sent stuff to Mars."}, {"end": "01:54:18", "start": "01:54:14", "text": "We've obviously have the rover, but"}, {"end": "01:54:20", "start": "01:54:16", "text": "sending more to Mars. First missions"}, {"end": "01:54:23", "start": "01:54:18", "text": "will not be people for probably a while."}, {"end": "01:54:25", "start": "01:54:20", "text": "I think we'll we'll prove we can send"}, {"end": "01:54:28", "start": "01:54:23", "text": "something, prove we can land something,"}, {"end": "01:54:30", "start": "01:54:25", "text": "then we'll ship actual large amounts of"}, {"end": "01:54:32", "start": "01:54:28", "text": "cargo and mass to prepare for humans to"}, {"end": "01:54:34", "start": "01:54:30", "text": "go there. And then maybe the next window"}, {"end": "01:54:35", "start": "01:54:32", "text": "you're doing people. That would be my"}, {"end": "01:54:39", "start": "01:54:34", "text": "guess of what what evolution could look"}, {"end": "01:54:41", "start": "01:54:35", "text": "like on that. Wow. Let's talk about the"}, {"end": "01:54:43", "start": "01:54:39", "text": "founders fund."}, {"end": "01:54:45", "start": "01:54:41", "text": "When did that start? Founders Fund"}, {"end": "01:54:47", "start": "01:54:43", "text": "started 2005."}, {"end": "01:54:49", "start": "01:54:45", "text": "Um this was Yeah. Founders Fund was"}, {"end": "01:54:52", "start": "01:54:47", "text": "originally, you know, if you think back"}, {"end": "01:54:55", "start": "01:54:49", "text": "to venture capital in the '90s,"}, {"end": "01:54:57", "start": "01:54:52", "text": "it was very much this idea that,"}, {"end": "01:55:00", "start": "01:54:55", "text": "hey, we should invest in, you know, same"}, {"end": "01:55:04", "start": "01:54:57", "text": "old stuff, software companies."}, {"end": "01:55:05", "start": "01:55:00", "text": "um by the by the late '9s um"}, {"end": "01:55:07", "start": "01:55:04", "text": "well let's let's talk about the '90s"}, {"end": "01:55:10", "start": "01:55:05", "text": "first. So I think the 90s were obviously"}, {"end": "01:55:12", "start": "01:55:07", "text": "do that was the big story of the '9s"}, {"end": "01:55:14", "start": "01:55:10", "text": "where you had all the internet companies"}, {"end": "01:55:16", "start": "01:55:12", "text": "and ultimately only a few of them"}, {"end": "01:55:20", "start": "01:55:14", "text": "survived but there was this what"}, {"end": "01:55:23", "start": "01:55:16", "text": "seemingly golden era in"}, {"end": "01:55:26", "start": "01:55:20", "text": "uh in startups in internet and mostly in"}, {"end": "01:55:29", "start": "01:55:23", "text": "consumer internet in search and the"}, {"end": "01:55:32", "start": "01:55:26", "text": "bubble popped early 2000s and by by"}, {"end": "01:55:34", "start": "01:55:29", "text": "early 2000s most of the VCs were you"}, {"end": "01:55:36", "start": "01:55:32", "text": "know it's extremely discouraging people"}, {"end": "01:55:39", "start": "01:55:34", "text": "felt like Hey, this was a one-time"}, {"end": "01:55:40", "start": "01:55:36", "text": "thing. Did we all go crazy? Were we too"}, {"end": "01:55:43", "start": "01:55:39", "text": "did we have a rational exuberance? Were"}, {"end": "01:55:45", "start": "01:55:40", "text": "we too excited about the future? And by"}, {"end": "01:55:46", "start": "01:55:43", "text": "early 2000s,"}, {"end": "01:55:48", "start": "01:55:45", "text": "venture capital had become, I think,"}, {"end": "01:55:51", "start": "01:55:46", "text": "much more conservative to where it"}, {"end": "01:55:53", "start": "01:55:48", "text": "wasn't investing at the time in"}, {"end": "01:55:55", "start": "01:55:51", "text": "ambitious projects."}, {"end": "01:55:58", "start": "01:55:53", "text": "People just had a lot of battle scars"}, {"end": "01:56:00", "start": "01:55:55", "text": "over the late '9s."}, {"end": "01:56:03", "start": "01:55:58", "text": "Felt like maybe they had they had been"}, {"end": "01:56:06", "start": "01:56:00", "text": "too excited. Um so by early 2000s a lot"}, {"end": "01:56:08", "start": "01:56:03", "text": "of conservatism a lot of looking for"}, {"end": "01:56:10", "start": "01:56:06", "text": "more classic easy to predict and"}, {"end": "01:56:14", "start": "01:56:08", "text": "understand businesses like enterprise"}, {"end": "01:56:16", "start": "01:56:10", "text": "software and viewing businesses as a"}, {"end": "01:56:18", "start": "01:56:14", "text": "horse and a jockey. So the jockey might"}, {"end": "01:56:21", "start": "01:56:16", "text": "be the founder or the CEO and the horse"}, {"end": "01:56:23", "start": "01:56:18", "text": "is the business and the technology and"}, {"end": "01:56:25", "start": "01:56:21", "text": "hey you know maybe the horse is great"}, {"end": "01:56:27", "start": "01:56:23", "text": "but the jockey is not so good. Let's"}, {"end": "01:56:30", "start": "01:56:25", "text": "swap out the jockey a couple years in."}, {"end": "01:56:32", "start": "01:56:27", "text": "And so that was the mentality of venture"}, {"end": "01:56:34", "start": "01:56:30", "text": "capital which was look for good"}, {"end": "01:56:37", "start": "01:56:32", "text": "businesses. Look for businesses that are"}, {"end": "01:56:38", "start": "01:56:34", "text": "pretty easy to understand. Let's not"}, {"end": "01:56:40", "start": "01:56:37", "text": "take a ton of risk. We did that in the"}, {"end": "01:56:42", "start": "01:56:38", "text": "late '9s. That didn't turn out well. We"}, {"end": "01:56:45", "start": "01:56:40", "text": "overestimated how big these companies"}, {"end": "01:56:47", "start": "01:56:42", "text": "can become. And let's view our role as"}, {"end": "01:56:50", "start": "01:56:45", "text": "venture capitalists and this is all"}, {"end": "01:56:51", "start": "01:56:47", "text": "before founders fund started. industry"}, {"end": "01:56:53", "start": "01:56:50", "text": "mentality was let's let's view the role"}, {"end": "01:56:56", "start": "01:56:51", "text": "of venture capitalists as helping build"}, {"end": "01:56:57", "start": "01:56:53", "text": "these companies and replace management"}, {"end": "01:56:59", "start": "01:56:56", "text": "and bring in new management as we need"}, {"end": "01:57:00", "start": "01:56:57", "text": "to."}, {"end": "01:57:03", "start": "01:56:59", "text": "And so when Founders Fund started in"}, {"end": "01:57:05", "start": "01:57:00", "text": "2005, it was actually coming from those"}, {"end": "01:57:08", "start": "01:57:03", "text": "experiences of some of the team at"}, {"end": "01:57:11", "start": "01:57:05", "text": "Founders Fund um you know really the"}, {"end": "01:57:14", "start": "01:57:08", "text": "founders of Founders Fund, Peter, Luke,"}, {"end": "01:57:16", "start": "01:57:11", "text": "Ken lived out that PayPal experience"}, {"end": "01:57:19", "start": "01:57:14", "text": "where they had investors that were much"}, {"end": "01:57:20", "start": "01:57:16", "text": "more that conservative attitude and"}, {"end": "01:57:23", "start": "01:57:19", "text": "didn't trust the founders of the company"}, {"end": "01:57:25", "start": "01:57:20", "text": "to run the company. And so Founders Fund"}, {"end": "01:57:27", "start": "01:57:23", "text": "came about in 2005"}, {"end": "01:57:30", "start": "01:57:25", "text": "with the purpose of empowering founders"}, {"end": "01:57:32", "start": "01:57:27", "text": "to run their companies forever. And so"}, {"end": "01:57:34", "start": "01:57:30", "text": "the thinking was hey all the best"}, {"end": "01:57:36", "start": "01:57:32", "text": "companies that exist are going to be"}, {"end": "01:57:38", "start": "01:57:34", "text": "founderled. That's you know companies"}, {"end": "01:57:41", "start": "01:57:36", "text": "that started in the '90s"}, {"end": "01:57:45", "start": "01:57:38", "text": "um or even even earlier. 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Um you know, then I think"}, {"end": "01:58:40", "start": "01:58:35", "text": "the first incubation happened mid mid to"}, {"end": "01:58:44", "start": "01:58:38", "text": "late 2000s originally within Peter's"}, {"end": "01:58:47", "start": "01:58:40", "text": "office. um Palanteer and Palunteer was"}, {"end": "01:58:50", "start": "01:58:44", "text": "really a response to the terrorist"}, {"end": "01:58:53", "start": "01:58:47", "text": "attacks on 911 where the conversation"}, {"end": "01:58:54", "start": "01:58:50", "text": "after that between policy makers was"}, {"end": "01:58:56", "start": "01:58:53", "text": "really are we going to have safety or"}, {"end": "01:58:59", "start": "01:58:54", "text": "are we going to have security"}, {"end": "01:59:01", "start": "01:58:56", "text": "and I think you had Sham on recently on"}, {"end": "01:59:03", "start": "01:58:59", "text": "a podcast I think he talked about this"}, {"end": "01:59:05", "start": "01:59:01", "text": "but this this concept of trade-offs by"}, {"end": "01:59:07", "start": "01:59:03", "text": "policy makers you know Palanteer was"}, {"end": "01:59:10", "start": "01:59:05", "text": "there to solve where it said well we"}, {"end": "01:59:11", "start": "01:59:07", "text": "have this trade-off sphere or this"}, {"end": "01:59:14", "start": "01:59:10", "text": "efficient frontier that we can trade"}, {"end": "01:59:15", "start": "01:59:11", "text": "between do we want safety or we want uh"}, {"end": "01:59:18", "start": "01:59:14", "text": "privacy"}, {"end": "01:59:19", "start": "01:59:15", "text": "and Palanteer said no we don't we don't"}, {"end": "01:59:22", "start": "01:59:18", "text": "need to make that choice we can do"}, {"end": "01:59:24", "start": "01:59:19", "text": "technology that does both and so that"}, {"end": "01:59:27", "start": "01:59:22", "text": "was really the first incubation by the"}, {"end": "01:59:28", "start": "01:59:24", "text": "founders fund team to say um let's"}, {"end": "01:59:30", "start": "01:59:27", "text": "actually solve a national security"}, {"end": "01:59:33", "start": "01:59:28", "text": "problem through technology and let's"}, {"end": "01:59:35", "start": "01:59:30", "text": "work with the government really closely"}, {"end": "01:59:39", "start": "01:59:33", "text": "to build out the tools that are going to"}, {"end": "01:59:41", "start": "01:59:35", "text": "help us um trade information between"}, {"end": "01:59:44", "start": "01:59:39", "text": "different departments in a really secure"}, {"end": "01:59:45", "start": "01:59:41", "text": "way with privacy controls and make sure"}, {"end": "01:59:49", "start": "01:59:44", "text": "that something like 9/11 never happens"}, {"end": "01:59:52", "start": "01:59:45", "text": "again. 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And"}, {"end": "02:01:15", "start": "02:01:09", "text": "so by early 2020 2010s you saw this"}, {"end": "02:01:18", "start": "02:01:12", "text": "evolution or expansion from just let's"}, {"end": "02:01:19", "start": "02:01:15", "text": "back founders unilaterally whether we"}, {"end": "02:01:21", "start": "02:01:18", "text": "succeed or fail we are there for the"}, {"end": "02:01:25", "start": "02:01:19", "text": "founder and we're going to let them run"}, {"end": "02:01:27", "start": "02:01:21", "text": "their company the way they see fit to"}, {"end": "02:01:28", "start": "02:01:25", "text": "now let's do that while also backing"}, {"end": "02:01:30", "start": "02:01:27", "text": "important things that otherwise are not"}, {"end": "02:01:33", "start": "02:01:28", "text": "going to happen. And so that that was"}, {"end": "02:01:36", "start": "02:01:30", "text": "really the evolution from 2005 to 2011"}, {"end": "02:01:38", "start": "02:01:33", "text": "when I joined. 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Like oddly a lot"}, {"end": "02:01:53", "start": "02:01:50", "text": "of people asked for a long time what's"}, {"end": "02:01:54", "start": "02:01:51", "text": "your favorite company in the portfolio?"}, {"end": "02:01:57", "start": "02:01:53", "text": "And I was biased, but I thought"}, {"end": "02:01:59", "start": "02:01:54", "text": "objectively SpaceX,"}, {"end": "02:02:01", "start": "02:01:57", "text": "you know, working on this thing that"}, {"end": "02:02:02", "start": "02:01:59", "text": "wasn't going to happen without SpaceX"}, {"end": "02:02:06", "start": "02:02:01", "text": "bringing down the launch cost"}, {"end": "02:02:07", "start": "02:02:02", "text": "dramatically, leveraging that into um"}, {"end": "02:02:08", "start": "02:02:06", "text": "enabling a bunch of other"}, {"end": "02:02:11", "start": "02:02:07", "text": "constellations, including their own"}, {"end": "02:02:13", "start": "02:02:08", "text": "constellation of Starlink. 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So, that"}, {"end": "02:03:19", "start": "02:03:12", "text": "one's been pretty cool to watch where it"}, {"end": "02:03:21", "start": "02:03:15", "text": "went from a concept to demonstrating it,"}, {"end": "02:03:22", "start": "02:03:19", "text": "you know, in monkeys playing Mind Pong."}, {"end": "02:03:24", "start": "02:03:21", "text": "I don't know if you ever saw that video."}, {"end": "02:03:26", "start": "02:03:22", "text": "If not, it's worth watching. You can"}, {"end": "02:03:28", "start": "02:03:24", "text": "search Neuralink Monkey Mind Pong, and"}, {"end": "02:03:31", "start": "02:03:26", "text": "you'll see a monkey that's playing Pong"}, {"end": "02:03:34", "start": "02:03:28", "text": "with a joystick. Uh, it has a Neuralink"}, {"end": "02:03:36", "start": "02:03:31", "text": "in. It's It's happily enjoying some uh"}, {"end": "02:03:38", "start": "02:03:34", "text": "banana smoothie every time it wins the"}, {"end": "02:03:42", "start": "02:03:36", "text": "game. And then you see halfway through"}, {"end": "02:03:44", "start": "02:03:38", "text": "the video, they remove the cord that's"}, {"end": "02:03:46", "start": "02:03:42", "text": "actually connecting the joystick to the"}, {"end": "02:03:48", "start": "02:03:44", "text": "computer, and the monkey keeps playing,"}, {"end": "02:03:49", "start": "02:03:46", "text": "thinking it's playing, but all it's"}, {"end": "02:03:52", "start": "02:03:48", "text": "really doing is reading off the"}, {"end": "02:03:54", "start": "02:03:49", "text": "neuralink thing. Um, wow. And it's still"}, {"end": "02:03:56", "start": "02:03:52", "text": "winning at Pong, and it's still getting"}, {"end": "02:03:58", "start": "02:03:54", "text": "the banana smoothie treats. And when I"}, {"end": "02:04:01", "start": "02:03:56", "text": "saw that, that's when we knew this is"}, {"end": "02:04:03", "start": "02:03:58", "text": "going to work. And so fast forward to"}, {"end": "02:04:06", "start": "02:04:01", "text": "today now I think you've got you've got"}, {"end": "02:04:08", "start": "02:04:03", "text": "some very uh famous people who have used"}, {"end": "02:04:12", "start": "02:04:06", "text": "it like Nolan"}, {"end": "02:04:13", "start": "02:04:08", "text": "um people who had accidents quadriplegic"}, {"end": "02:04:15", "start": "02:04:12", "text": "couldn't move at all and now actually"}, {"end": "02:04:18", "start": "02:04:13", "text": "have jobs that are just internet based"}, {"end": "02:04:19", "start": "02:04:15", "text": "jobs. Um so just completely changing"}, {"end": "02:04:21", "start": "02:04:18", "text": "these people's lives. That's been a"}, {"end": "02:04:23", "start": "02:04:19", "text": "really cool one to see. Do you have any"}, {"end": "02:04:25", "start": "02:04:21", "text": "fear of Neuralink?"}, {"end": "02:04:27", "start": "02:04:23", "text": "No I don't. No. I think what we're going"}, {"end": "02:04:30", "start": "02:04:25", "text": "to see the, you know, next decade of"}, {"end": "02:04:33", "start": "02:04:27", "text": "Neurolink is going to be people with"}, {"end": "02:04:36", "start": "02:04:30", "text": "quadriplegia, ALS,"}, {"end": "02:04:37", "start": "02:04:33", "text": "um, them getting cured. I think the"}, {"end": "02:04:39", "start": "02:04:36", "text": "company's talked about other"}, {"end": "02:04:42", "start": "02:04:37", "text": "applications too, like blindness and"}, {"end": "02:04:44", "start": "02:04:39", "text": "deafness. Um, could you actually use it"}, {"end": "02:04:46", "start": "02:04:42", "text": "to not just read what the person's"}, {"end": "02:04:48", "start": "02:04:44", "text": "thinking and express that onto the"}, {"end": "02:04:49", "start": "02:04:46", "text": "world, but could you actually take"}, {"end": "02:04:51", "start": "02:04:48", "text": "inputs like from a camera and help them"}, {"end": "02:04:53", "start": "02:04:49", "text": "see again? People even who are born with"}, {"end": "02:04:55", "start": "02:04:51", "text": "blindness."}, {"end": "02:04:58", "start": "02:04:53", "text": "So yeah, that doesn't make me scared at"}, {"end": "02:05:01", "start": "02:04:55", "text": "all. That makes me really excited. Now"}, {"end": "02:05:02", "start": "02:04:58", "text": "people will think about merger with AI"}, {"end": "02:05:05", "start": "02:05:01", "text": "down the road or like how do you have"}, {"end": "02:05:09", "start": "02:05:02", "text": "human AI symbiosis? I think that's far"}, {"end": "02:05:10", "start": "02:05:05", "text": "enough away. Um and"}, {"end": "02:05:12", "start": "02:05:09", "text": "it's going to be anything like that is"}, {"end": "02:05:16", "start": "02:05:10", "text": "going to be completely voluntary for"}, {"end": "02:05:18", "start": "02:05:12", "text": "people that hey if you know that's that"}, {"end": "02:05:21", "start": "02:05:16", "text": "does not even enter my area of concern"}, {"end": "02:05:23", "start": "02:05:18", "text": "at this point. It doesn't. No, because"}, {"end": "02:05:25", "start": "02:05:21", "text": "first I think it's so far away that"}, {"end": "02:05:28", "start": "02:05:23", "text": "we're going to figure out a lot of"}, {"end": "02:05:30", "start": "02:05:25", "text": "things before then. And second,"}, {"end": "02:05:32", "start": "02:05:28", "text": "um, you know, will I ever get a"}, {"end": "02:05:33", "start": "02:05:30", "text": "Neuralink? I don't know. Like maybe if"}, {"end": "02:05:35", "start": "02:05:32", "text": "it doesn't look like a good idea, I"}, {"end": "02:05:37", "start": "02:05:33", "text": "wouldn't do it. But I think for many of"}, {"end": "02:05:41", "start": "02:05:35", "text": "these patients today that are paralyzed"}, {"end": "02:05:44", "start": "02:05:37", "text": "or ALS or blind or deaf or, you know,"}, {"end": "02:05:46", "start": "02:05:41", "text": "missing limbs, how can we actually like"}, {"end": "02:05:49", "start": "02:05:44", "text": "use the Neuralink type device to let"}, {"end": "02:05:51", "start": "02:05:46", "text": "them get full capability back? That's"}, {"end": "02:05:53", "start": "02:05:49", "text": "that's what excites me about Neurolink."}, {"end": "02:05:55", "start": "02:05:51", "text": "So yeah, we've had had a chance to be a"}, {"end": "02:05:57", "start": "02:05:53", "text": "bunch of to be a part of many cool"}, {"end": "02:06:01", "start": "02:05:55", "text": "companies, even some that are more"}, {"end": "02:06:02", "start": "02:05:57", "text": "conventional like a friend of ours um at"}, {"end": "02:06:04", "start": "02:06:01", "text": "Founders Fund started a company for"}, {"end": "02:06:07", "start": "02:06:02", "text": "cancer therapeutics."}, {"end": "02:06:09", "start": "02:06:04", "text": "So specifically dealing with types of"}, {"end": "02:06:10", "start": "02:06:07", "text": "cancer and really looking for the target"}, {"end": "02:06:12", "start": "02:06:09", "text": "on the cancer that they they could go"}, {"end": "02:06:14", "start": "02:06:10", "text": "after. and they ended up selling that"}, {"end": "02:06:17", "start": "02:06:12", "text": "company and now the same target that"}, {"end": "02:06:19", "start": "02:06:14", "text": "they were working on is now showing up"}, {"end": "02:06:20", "start": "02:06:17", "text": "in a bunch of drugs um from that company"}, {"end": "02:06:23", "start": "02:06:19", "text": "that they sold to and then other"}, {"end": "02:06:25", "start": "02:06:20", "text": "companies. So, it's yeah, a lot of this"}, {"end": "02:06:27", "start": "02:06:23", "text": "stuff is really futuristic and feels"}, {"end": "02:06:29", "start": "02:06:25", "text": "more distant, but then also getting to"}, {"end": "02:06:31", "start": "02:06:27", "text": "back unconventional approaches in things"}, {"end": "02:06:33", "start": "02:06:29", "text": "like cancer therapeutics and watching"}, {"end": "02:06:36", "start": "02:06:31", "text": "patients eventually get cured from that."}, {"end": "02:06:38", "start": "02:06:33", "text": "Wow. Has been really cool. I'll bet."}, {"end": "02:06:40", "start": "02:06:36", "text": "I'll bet. What are you guys focusing on"}, {"end": "02:06:42", "start": "02:06:38", "text": "now?"}, {"end": "02:06:44", "start": "02:06:40", "text": "I'd say the the founders fund thing is"}, {"end": "02:06:46", "start": "02:06:42", "text": "it's always it's always seemingly a"}, {"end": "02:06:49", "start": "02:06:44", "text": "black box from the outside. It's it's"}, {"end": "02:06:52", "start": "02:06:46", "text": "seemingly random. And so, you know, one"}, {"end": "02:06:54", "start": "02:06:49", "text": "saying is that once there's a theme of"}, {"end": "02:06:56", "start": "02:06:52", "text": "what we're doing or like there's a"}, {"end": "02:06:58", "start": "02:06:54", "text": "category that you can be a part of, it's"}, {"end": "02:06:59", "start": "02:06:56", "text": "already it's already something Founders"}, {"end": "02:07:02", "start": "02:06:58", "text": "probably won't invest in. It's probably"}, {"end": "02:07:04", "start": "02:06:59", "text": "already too late. So people talk about"}, {"end": "02:07:05", "start": "02:07:02", "text": "commercial space now and all the things"}, {"end": "02:07:07", "start": "02:07:04", "text": "happening in space, but the Founders"}, {"end": "02:07:09", "start": "02:07:05", "text": "Fund first investment in SpaceX was"}, {"end": "02:07:10", "start": "02:07:07", "text": "2008."}, {"end": "02:07:12", "start": "02:07:09", "text": "And so"}, {"end": "02:07:14", "start": "02:07:10", "text": "in terms of what categories are we"}, {"end": "02:07:16", "start": "02:07:12", "text": "investing in now, it's really the it's"}, {"end": "02:07:18", "start": "02:07:14", "text": "really the anti-category that it always"}, {"end": "02:07:20", "start": "02:07:16", "text": "has been. It's always been what's the"}, {"end": "02:07:23", "start": "02:07:18", "text": "thing that's that's coming but isn't"}, {"end": "02:07:25", "start": "02:07:20", "text": "isn't yet obvious. 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This very"}, {"end": "02:07:46", "start": "02:07:42", "text": "different way, this orthogonal way, and"}, {"end": "02:07:48", "start": "02:07:45", "text": "it might not make sense to a lot of"}, {"end": "02:07:52", "start": "02:07:46", "text": "people, but here's the reasons why they"}, {"end": "02:07:53", "start": "02:07:48", "text": "make sense and you know, here's all the"}, {"end": "02:07:54", "start": "02:07:52", "text": "questions you might ask and here's all"}, {"end": "02:07:57", "start": "02:07:53", "text": "let's go down the rabbit hole together"}, {"end": "02:07:58", "start": "02:07:54", "text": "and figure out what the answer is.\" It's"}, {"end": "02:08:02", "start": "02:07:57", "text": "those types of companies that Founders"}, {"end": "02:08:05", "start": "02:07:58", "text": "Fund backs and so um it's it's"}, {"end": "02:08:06", "start": "02:08:02", "text": "completely without a theme. I think the"}, {"end": "02:08:10", "start": "02:08:05", "text": "biggest theme is it should be something"}, {"end": "02:08:12", "start": "02:08:06", "text": "that can change an industry and is like"}, {"end": "02:08:15", "start": "02:08:10", "text": "N of one just like a totally unique"}, {"end": "02:08:17", "start": "02:08:12", "text": "company that is unlike anything else."}, {"end": "02:08:20", "start": "02:08:15", "text": "Well, Scott, we're wrapping up the"}, {"end": "02:08:23", "start": "02:08:17", "text": "interview, but I mean, what are some"}, {"end": "02:08:25", "start": "02:08:20", "text": "problems in the country or maybe in the"}, {"end": "02:08:27", "start": "02:08:23", "text": "world that you think that founders and"}, {"end": "02:08:28", "start": "02:08:25", "text": "innovators should be looking to solve? I"}, {"end": "02:08:31", "start": "02:08:27", "text": "think a lot of it's going to come back"}, {"end": "02:08:32", "start": "02:08:28", "text": "to the to the energy stuff that we"}, {"end": "02:08:34", "start": "02:08:31", "text": "talked about. I think it's going to be"}, {"end": "02:08:37", "start": "02:08:32", "text": "energy growth. I think everything comes"}, {"end": "02:08:39", "start": "02:08:34", "text": "back to energy. So, if it's"}, {"end": "02:08:41", "start": "02:08:37", "text": "manufacturing,"}, {"end": "02:08:42", "start": "02:08:39", "text": "if it's AI,"}, {"end": "02:08:44", "start": "02:08:41", "text": "it's going to come back to energy"}, {"end": "02:08:45", "start": "02:08:42", "text": "production. If it's economic growth, it"}, {"end": "02:08:48", "start": "02:08:44", "text": "comes back to energy production. So, I"}, {"end": "02:08:50", "start": "02:08:45", "text": "think we're in this period of immense"}, {"end": "02:08:51", "start": "02:08:48", "text": "need for more energy and there's a lot"}, {"end": "02:08:53", "start": "02:08:50", "text": "of companies that could get started."}, {"end": "02:08:55", "start": "02:08:51", "text": "There's people starting reactor"}, {"end": "02:08:57", "start": "02:08:53", "text": "companies. We're working on the fuel for"}, {"end": "02:08:59", "start": "02:08:55", "text": "the reactors. There's going to be things"}, {"end": "02:09:00", "start": "02:08:57", "text": "like transformers."}, {"end": "02:09:02", "start": "02:08:59", "text": "And so, I think it's a huge range of"}, {"end": "02:09:04", "start": "02:09:00", "text": "things people should do. But it's not"}, {"end": "02:09:07", "start": "02:09:02", "text": "going to just be energy. I think what"}, {"end": "02:09:09", "start": "02:09:04", "text": "should people do? It's you know I think"}, {"end": "02:09:11", "start": "02:09:07", "text": "the guideline that um Peter at found"}, {"end": "02:09:16", "start": "02:09:09", "text": "respond has given to people which I find"}, {"end": "02:09:18", "start": "02:09:11", "text": "really uh inspiring and like it's a good"}, {"end": "02:09:20", "start": "02:09:16", "text": "it's a good rule of thumb is do"}, {"end": "02:09:23", "start": "02:09:18", "text": "something that matters"}, {"end": "02:09:25", "start": "02:09:20", "text": "that otherwise won't get done and that"}, {"end": "02:09:28", "start": "02:09:23", "text": "only you can do and I think if you can"}, {"end": "02:09:29", "start": "02:09:25", "text": "find that thing to work on"}, {"end": "02:09:31", "start": "02:09:28", "text": "that's more important than anything"}, {"end": "02:09:33", "start": "02:09:29", "text": "else. So I think that's that's a sweet"}, {"end": "02:09:35", "start": "02:09:31", "text": "spot. So, I'd say search for those"}, {"end": "02:09:37", "start": "02:09:33", "text": "things and until you find them, just try"}, {"end": "02:09:39", "start": "02:09:35", "text": "and be part of teams doing things that"}, {"end": "02:09:41", "start": "02:09:37", "text": "you think are important that you can"}, {"end": "02:09:43", "start": "02:09:39", "text": "contribute to and don't worry about the"}, {"end": "02:09:46", "start": "02:09:41", "text": "role. Just figure out a way to add"}, {"end": "02:09:48", "start": "02:09:43", "text": "value. Great advice. Great advice. Thank"}, {"end": "02:09:50", "start": "02:09:46", "text": "you."}, {"end": "02:09:51", "start": "02:09:48", "text": "Last question. If you had three people"}, {"end": "02:09:54", "start": "02:09:50", "text": "to recommend for the show, who would it"}, {"end": "02:09:54", "start": "02:09:51", "text": "be?"}, {"end": "02:10:02", "start": "02:09:58", "text": "We've talked about a few people today."}, {"end": "02:10:04", "start": "02:10:00", "text": "Um, it's like the toughest question I"}, {"end": "02:10:06", "start": "02:10:02", "text": "asked, huh? Well, there's so many people"}, {"end": "02:10:08", "start": "02:10:04", "text": "that you should talk to, but I mean,"}, {"end": "02:10:12", "start": "02:10:06", "text": "yeah, I you haven't had I've mentioned a"}, {"end": "02:10:16", "start": "02:10:08", "text": "few people today. Um,"}, {"end": "02:10:18", "start": "02:10:12", "text": "mentioned Peter. Peter's great. Uh, you"}, {"end": "02:10:21", "start": "02:10:16", "text": "could go on for"}, {"end": "02:10:23", "start": "02:10:18", "text": "10 hours with Peter."}, {"end": "02:10:26", "start": "02:10:21", "text": "You get into a lot of different things."}, {"end": "02:10:29", "start": "02:10:23", "text": "Um, talked about Sam Alman and what he"}, {"end": "02:10:31", "start": "02:10:26", "text": "thinks about where AI is going. I think"}, {"end": "02:10:32", "start": "02:10:29", "text": "that that one could be good. I think"}, {"end": "02:10:35", "start": "02:10:31", "text": "Elon at some point would be really"}, {"end": "02:10:38", "start": "02:10:32", "text": "interesting. Perfect. Perfect. Well,"}, {"end": "02:10:40", "start": "02:10:35", "text": "Scott, thank you again for being here"}, {"end": "02:10:42", "start": "02:10:38", "text": "and uh that was fascinating interview. I"}, {"end": "02:10:47", "start": "02:10:40", "text": "hope to see you again and uh I just want"}, {"end": "02:10:47", "start": "02:10:42", "text": "to wish you the best of luck. Cool."}, {"end": "02:10:55", "start": "02:10:52", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "02:11:00", "start": "02:10:56", "text": "No matter where you're watching Shawn"}, {"end": "02:11:03", "start": "02:10:58", "text": "Ryan show from, if you get anything out"}, {"end": "02:11:05", "start": "02:11:00", "text": "of this, please like, comment,"}, {"end": "02:11:09", "start": "02:11:03", "text": "subscribe, and most importantly, share"}, {"end": "02:11:11", "start": "02:11:05", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"end": "02:11:14", "start": "02:11:09", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"end": "02:11:16", "start": "02:11:11", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"end": "02:11:16", "start": "02:11:14", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "No one actually died from 3-M Island"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "from radiation exposure from anything"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "else. What happened there? So 3M Island"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "was a famous meltdown that happened in"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "the US. There were two reactors. A"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "series of operator mistakes caused one"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "of them to have a meltdown. This thing"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "that people view as this crazy disaster."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "And I think it happened right after a"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "movie came out called The China Syndrome"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "which was about a nuclear meltdown. So"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "this movie came out and right after this"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "accident happened and just drove the US"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "into a state of fear about nuclear that"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "lasted decades. Fast forward to today."}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "One of those reactors is still out of"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "commission, but the other one Microsoft"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "is planning to turn back on to power AI."}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "So, this thing that people really worry"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "about, hey, nuclear can't be safe."}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "Nuclear is extremely safe. It's the"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "safest form of base load. And even the"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "worst accident in the US history which"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "was caused by human error that would not"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "occur today and can't occur with the"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "more advanced reactors."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "By now,"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "maybe you've seen the interview with the"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "vice president of Taiwan."}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Couple takeaways from that one. If China"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "does invade Taiwan and the US doesn't"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "intervene,"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "here's what would happen. We would lose"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "all credibility in that side of the"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "world. You've heard me talk about bricks"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "for years."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "Brazil, Russia, India, China, South"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "Africa, several other countries are"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "involved now. And what they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "do is take the US currency away from the"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "world's reserve currency, which would be"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "extremely detrimental. Now, how would"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "they do that? Well, if we didn't"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "intervene, it would show weakness, and"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "they would demand all the other"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "countries in that part of the world to"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "use the Chinese yen as their primary"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "trading currency. Number two, if they"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "took the chip factories,"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "that would put China is the most"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "technologically advanced country in the"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "world, making them the biggest"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "superpower. On top of that, all the rest"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "of the world would lose access to the"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "high-end semiconductor chips."}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "If they did that, that would throw us"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "years behind and we may never catch up"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "technologically."}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "That would mean once again, China"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "is the most technologically advanced"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "superpower"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "and likely the only superpower"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "left in the world. It would take us"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "years"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "to catch up to that."}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "I don't think any of us want that."}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "I'd love to tell you where we're at"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "right now,"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "but you'll find out soon."}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "Cheers."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "This was the moment everything changed."}, {"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "Probably shouldn't be talking about my"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "uh worth direction that I'm going to go,"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "but okay, whatever. That's what I want"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "to do. I want to start going and talking"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "to all these foreign dignitaries and"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "getting a different perspective on what"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "we're doing. It's an honor to be here."}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "Welcome to Taiwan. With the fact that"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "Taiwan produces 95% of all of the"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "high-end semiconductors, I don't"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "understand why more countries don't"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "verbally come out and say that they"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "stand with Taiwan. The repercussions if"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "China were to invade and take those chip"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "factories would be hell and a disaster"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "for humanity. Detrimental to the entire"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "world. If the rest of the world does not"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "stand with you and China were to invade,"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "they will become the most"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "technologically advanced country in the"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "entire world."}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "will be here to aid you in the event"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "that happens."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "What does an invasion from China look"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "like? A kinetic war or is it more of a"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "cognitive war? I can't emphasize enough"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "that we want to avoid a kinetic"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "conflict. There are no winners in war."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "The other gray zone coercion against"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "Taiwan is already happening. There are"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "military assets circling Taiwan. The"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "cognitive warfare, disinformation,"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "efforts at dividing our society that is"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "already happening. The cyber attacks are"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "already happening. I do not want to"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "really think about what a kinetic"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "conflict will look like because it will"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "be hell and a disaster for humanity."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "The place I have an issue with China is"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "I do think China is going to find a way"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "to use the terrace as proxies, but um"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "the place I'm most concerned about is um"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "you know, you talked about the lithium,"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "but there's uranium mines, too. So, at"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "least the uranium mines in like two of"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "the provinces in the south are"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "essentially"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "owned and run by China. So, China's in"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "them. Al-Qaeda is in them. And IGC is"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "there trying to help al-Qaeda basically"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "use uranium. Not exactly like you would"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "use it for nuclear program, maybe like a"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "dirty bomb or something. So, China,"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "Iran, and al-Qaeda are basically in the"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "same building, right? So, think of that"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "as they innovate on that and grow. If we"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "go to war with China, I do think China"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "will likely wait and use the terrorists"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "as a proxy against"}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Speaking of weird though, don't you have"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "an alien story? Dude, this one is crazy"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "because this is one maybe people have"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "heard of, especially if they've listened"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "to Rogan before. Uh, but I remember"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "hearing about this a long time ago"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "because it's just a it was it they say"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "it's like the most compelling UFO story"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "or what do they they say the most"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "remarkable close encounter of the third"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "kind of 1990s."}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "And uh this is just a nuts story. So"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "happened in Zimbabwe in a place called"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "Rua, right? So it's a very rural town"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "and there was very rural rural town and"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "it was in 1994 September 16th days"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "before there were people inside this"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "city saying that they saw lights in the"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "sky, fireballs in the sky moving from"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "side to side and the news reported that"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "there was some type of asteroid thing"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "happening, you know, a meteor shower or"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "something. The next day on April um"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "September 16th, there's an aerial school"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "of that's a private school and it's"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "mostly wealthy British families that"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "have kids that go here. At 10:00 a.m."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "the faculty has a uh a meeting inside."}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "All of the adults go inside. All the"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "kids aboutund kids are outside in"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "recess."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "Suddenly a lot of these kids start"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "hearing a whistle going through the air."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "Kind of crazy. They're all looking"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "around. Suddenly, they look off in the"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "distance over past their um property is"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "this silver UFO with lights on it,"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "floating, blowing a whistle. Everyone"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "seeming to have bad feelings about it."}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "They see it land and there's three"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "aliens in black suits, four feet tall,"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "almondshaped eyes with black eyes with"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "white pupils. Get out."}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "And these kids are frozen in fear."}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "There's one girl that says, \"Listen, I"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "wanted to go and protect my brother and"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "sister, but I couldn't move. I was"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "frozen.\" And these aliens got out and"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "one of them like that looked like it was"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "walking in slow motion. One looked as if"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "it was every time it moved, it"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "transported 10 ft in front of itself"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "when it was going in directions. So, it"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "would just shift shift shift and do all"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "this. And all these kids are freaking"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "out and they're starting to get scared."}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "And there's some kids that are"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "screaming. These aliens don't even pay"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "attention to them until this they hear"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "the screaming. They look over at them"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "and these kids get even more frozen. And"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "then one locks eyes with several of the"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "kids and they say telepathically without"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "them alien speaking any words, moving"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "their lips, they got these visions of"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "them telling them a warning about the"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "future of the world and gave them"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "visions of the ocean bubbling, boiling"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "and just, you know, fire raining down,"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "all these terrible things and how te"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "there's technology that's going to be"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "used very very poorly and it's going to"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "be the downfall of humanity. And so"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "they're just all like on these like from"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "like 5 to 12 year old kids. These kids"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "are just watching this transpire and"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "crying. All this stuff is really upset."}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "And suddenly after that it was about uh"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "15 minutes and it goes back up and the"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "kids run back to the faculty terrified"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "just freaking out. And they're all"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "saying this exact same thing."}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "And they just the teachers don't know"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "what to do so they dismiss it. Right?"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "The kids go home, they complain to their"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "parents. All of these kids, they come"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "home on Monday morning. The principal"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "has all of these letters, all these"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "boxes, all these phone calls, people"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "waiting. Kids didn't want to go back to"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "school. They were so terrified of what"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "happened. They had every single kid that"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "week draw what they saw. And you could"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "find them online. There's a movie made"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "about this because there's one guy named"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "John Mack. He's a professor at Harvard"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "Medical. He's a professor in psychology."}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "He's a child psychologist. He's one of"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "the best. He's Pulitzer Prize winner."}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "He's awesome. He's just done a lot on"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "child psychology and he's literally"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "literally the leader of the department"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "at Harvard for psychology. So, this guy"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "knows his stuff and he starts looking"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "into this story because he heard about"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "it and a lot of kids are involved. So,"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "he flies out there the week after this"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "thing happens and he sits them down,"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "interviews every single one. You can"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "literally watch these videos. 1994."}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "These kids are sitting down and they're"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "saying the all the exact same thing with"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "their own perspectives, with their own"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "changes, whatever. But they all are"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "describing this cylinder UFO with lights"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "coming on down it in broad daylight."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "Wow. All these kids saw and you could"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "just hear the way that they're telling"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "the story like they this happened."}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "They're not trying to convince you of"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "it. Their parents didn't even believe"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "them. There's some parents that"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "literally just like you're wrong about"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "this. And he says, \"I know what I saw.\""}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "and they they felt it was traumatic."}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "There was kids that were nervous and it"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "was really heartbreaking. Until this"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "day, they still talk about it. They've"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "met up 25 years later after it. And the"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "thing is this John Mack guy, he was a"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "doctor. I mean, he was really well"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "wellresected. But he kept going down"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "this rabbit hole and said, \"This is this"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "is it. This is the story. This is what"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "we need. Like you can't deny this is a"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "hundred kids, 60 kids on record"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "explaining the exact same thing. You"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "think they just plan this?\" Yeah. you"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "think they're disc like there's no"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "possible way been like okay yeah we made"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "it up 110% you couldn't organize that"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "and so it's like we have to take this"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "seriously a lot of his um colleagues"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "weren't respecting the work he was doing"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "at all they were not about it they"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "didn't love what he was doing and so he"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "but he just kept diving into it they no"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "joke had um the school investigate him"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "even if they had nothing like no clause"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "whatever it never had happened before"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "but they had no evidence to do this they"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "had no reason to do it but yet he was"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "under investigation"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "They prove that you can look into"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "whatever you want at the end of the day,"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "but you know what?"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "He gets on to Oprah Winfrey on Larry"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "King. He's talking about it, pushing it"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "like crazy. And then one night, walking"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "around outside of London in the streets,"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "he gets hit by a drunk driver. Oh. And"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "dies. Dang. Out of nowhere. But the"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "really really strange thing is on that"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "exact same day in England where he was"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "three other men named John Mack also"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "died. What?"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "The same day."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "So there was a hit out for him. The"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "theory is the Men in Black whoever"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "agency was told John Mack at the end of"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "the day. Today, four John Max died in"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "one day in England. That's insane. Is"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "that not crazy? Oh my gosh. Yeah, dude."}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "He wouldn't drop it. 2004 was when he"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "was killed."}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Ford John Max. Matt John Mack. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "dude. Absolutely wild. This guy was so"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "passionate for these kids and was just"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "like trying to tell their truth and"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "trying to figure out because this like"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "how you can't fake this. You can't you"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "have to give some validity to it."}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "There's got to be something real that"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "happened there that day. And I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "know, man. It makes you wonder like,"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "well, why would they approach kids about"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "this stuff? Well, yeah. But then it's"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "like, well, probably because they're"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "going to be the ones that Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "these these people you can I'm telling"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "you, there's so much information on it"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "and video proof of these kids just"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "talking about it and it's just you could"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "tell it was real to them. Well, the"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "sketchy thing is they come back. That's"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "like a narrative that's constantly said"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "like frequent visits. So, who knows if"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "this was like we're gonna plant this"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "seed in this conversation. We'll revisit"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "you all at some other point. They're"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "gonna come back to the same school, but"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "where' they go? They they've came"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "there's been activity ever since then"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "like in that area. There was just been a"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "ton of reports. But they all blamed it."}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Mass hysteria caused by the meteor"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "shower that was in the news. That's what"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "it was. It's like this was broad"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "daylight. This thing floated in front of"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "them. These are intelligent kids. You"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "listen to the kids talk. They're"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "intelligent. Yeah. They've all got"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "British accents using better vocabulary"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "than I could ever. And they could fully"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "articulate what they saw to a tea. And"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "it's just chilling the photos that they"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "drew and stuff. It's really wild. I"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "thought you were going to say, \"Guess"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "who one of those children were?\" Donald"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "Trump."}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "That'd be great. I think the story is"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "still crazy, but then when you get to"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "that John Mack part, that's weird. I"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "mean, the guy apparently the drunk"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "driver apparently uh they didn't press"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "charges. The fam John Max family didn't"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "press charges. The guy only got six"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "months of jail time. Oh."}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "And to me, it's just like that seems"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "kind of lenient on a drunk driver who"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "killed some guy and a family that"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "doesn't want to press charges. I don't"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "know. That's so strange. That's not a"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "coincidence. It can't be. Four dudes,"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "same name, same place. It's not like a"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "worldwide. It's in the same area. That's"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "insane. Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly. The"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "butterfly is no doubt"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "has empty your mind. You were martial"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "arts."}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "[Music]"}]

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[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Have you heard of the black eye club?"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "Black eye club. Uh the last meeting"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "Trump and Elon had their you saw Elon"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "had that black eye. I don't know if you"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "noticed that. And you look there's"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "different politicians and members of"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "loyalty after something happens or"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "something's about to happen, they'll"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "show up with a black eye. So they're"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "saying that it's like some sort of like"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "initiation or ritualistic thing like"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "humiliation. Yeah. And my question is"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "presidential abuse. It definitely can't"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "be that. If you're the richest man in"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "the world and you're in the White House,"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "you're in the Oval Office getting"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "interviewed. Yeah. Nationwide"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "television, Universal, get some makeup."}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "Get some makeup. Yeah, that's a that's a"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "personal decision. That's an intentional"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "decision to not he wants to show that"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "he's in the club. That would be the only"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "show. Is there any other people that"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "there's like um Prince Andrew, okay, who"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "was tied to Epstein and there's just"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "other politicians or they It's like the"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "same type of black eye. Did he address"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "why he I don't know. He said his son hit"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "him, which is crazy. My son's hit me."}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "That kid's got some freaking hands,"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "brother. It would take a lot for a"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "four-year-old to put a shiner on"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "somebody in the exact spot that every"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "other person of power. Oh, he's leaning"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "into it. Hm. Interesting. It's also"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "interesting that he could also say X"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "when he's like, it could be meaning like"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "maybe it's a metaphor for the company"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "or his robot. Poo!"}]

[{"end": "00:00:03", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Have you have you heard of it? Have you"}, {"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "heard of this story? The skunk cape?"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I've heard of the"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "skunk cape. So, the the story I want to"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "tell is from 2000. It's one of the most"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "It's the most compelling uh encounter"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "that I've seen so far. This lady was in"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "her backyard and she noticed her apple"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "she had an apple tree and her apples"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "were getting like messed with every"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "night. And so, she goes out there to"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "like try to figure it out. She hears"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "something. She goes outside and snaps a"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "couple photos and literally catches an"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "image and she's like she's like I just"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "saw it like glowing eyes this you know"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "apeike creature. Well she calls in to"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "the Sarasota or she sends in photos to"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "the Sarasota Sarasota right police"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "department. Yep. And she sends him in"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "and what she reports is I think there's"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "an escaped orangutang in my yard. Here's"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "the photos. can you please investigate"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "with like I don't know if a zoo"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "somewhere like if anyone's missing one"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "it's in my yard come deal with it. That"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "was her plea. And so she takes these"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "photos. This is the scariest thing I've"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "ever seen. Remember she's not reporting"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "crypted. She's reporting um orangutank."}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "What year was this? This is This photo"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "is from 2000."}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "I'm so nervous. Dude, my phone is being"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "stupid right now. I've seen Are you"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "kidding me? Dude, that looks like an"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "orangutang. That's legit. Yeah. Oh my"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "goodness. That is the scariest thing"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "I've ever seen. That would be That's the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "photo, dude. Chills. That does look like"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "the Jack Links Sasquatch. Dude, that's"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "so scary. Pop the flash cuz something"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "was in her yard getting into her apples."}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "And that's the photo she sent in. She's"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "like, \"Oh my gosh, there is an"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "orangutang in my yard. Come deal with"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "it.\" No, thank you. But the reason I"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "bring up uh Maka is because there's been"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "that other encounter where they reported"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "a very similarly described creature."}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "There's other encounters. I've told one"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "of the stories where people like got"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "their truck chased by this creature, but"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "time and time and time again, it's this"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "apeike creature with stinky for reddish"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "or black fur. And then what what's most"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "compelling is I was like, \"Okay, well,"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "let me look.\" The police didn't do"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "anything like that's that's the end of"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "the story. But then when I looked up, I"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "did a search trying to find any like"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "Yeah. in Central Florida in general were"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "any zoos missing any primates? And I"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "couldn't Google and find anything. I"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "used chat GPT to try to find articles."}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "No one reported anything missing in that"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "area anywhere near that time period. M"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "and so either that thing had been in the"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "woods for over 10 years and you know"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "survived that and then suddenly decided"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "it was going to start getting close to"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "people's property or there's really"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "something out there and then that"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "doesn't look like a fake photo to me. I"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "looked at some like one one of the"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "people saying that it is a fraud is"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "claiming two things. There's apparently"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "out of Japan a costume that looks very"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "similar to that. Okay. And they're"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "saying no, we we recognize it from that."}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "But then the same counterargument like"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "the people making this blade, they say,"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "\"And it's photoshopped and compiled.\""}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "Like you can kind of tell. My thing is"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "if you're photoshopping, you're not"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "going to use a flash cuz that makes"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "shadow a nightmare to do all of that,"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "right? And if you are photoshopping, why"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "go through the trouble of getting this"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "costume and like now you're going to"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "take a photo of that in a different It's"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "a lot of work for a hoax. Yeah. And it"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "doesn't make sense. It's like you can"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "make a more compelling hoax, you know,"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "like from far away or There's so many"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "like things that we've shared on here"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "that like like we looked up and a lot of"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "the times it's kind of like 50/50"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "debugged or whatever. I'm looking up"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "this one right now. 100% has not been"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "debunked. That photo like that photo and"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "a lot of people are saying experts like"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "they're like this they're like I work"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "with wildlife. This looks like a real"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "animal. Like they're like the just"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "everything about it reads as a real"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "animal. And I'm in 2000 having a photo"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "like that. That's so scary. That's so"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "scary. My whole thing is the flash. If I"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "were faking a photo because the the way"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "that the light changes like your"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "positioning in the Photoshop would have"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "to be perfect. Oh, and that's the second"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "photo of it. The second one's"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "terrifying, too. Oh my gosh."}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "Is his mouth open in there? It looks"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "like he's Yeah, he looks like bottom"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "teeth that come out. So, he's looking"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "up. It's got an under. It does look like"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "an orangutang in the face, though."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "That's crazy. really does. Well, in the"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "in sort of the way the shoulders are and"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "the head is sitting, but the all the um"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "depictions of Bigfoot, there's been a"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "lot that look like that, like with the"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "hair that come like down like that. So,"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "that's Chewbacca, dude. Did you see his"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "foot though? No. At the bottom. Let me"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "see it. Is it photo I sent? Yeah. Is it?"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "Oh, it looks like big Yeah. Gorilla"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "hands. Like actual a big foot."}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "A big foot. Oh my goodness. Is that not"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "like I'm I'm going in the woods in the"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "dark this Sunday and I will be thinking"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "of that the whole time. I'm I'm telling"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "you when I was in Ocala National Forest"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "I still it literally every time I think"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "about it at night it still gives me the"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "heebiejibbies. Yeah. There's something"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "weird man. Well that have you heard"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "people are like well you've never found"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "like Bigfoot bones or like whatever."}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "It's like how often are you finding"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "bones of bears? Yeah. And there's tens"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "of thousands hundreds of thousands of"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "bears whatever there is. You know how"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "many deer did we see on the property in"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "Tennessee? It was 17. Yeah. One time"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "there was like 17. And every moment we"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "weren't sleeping or at conference, I was"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "looking for bones on that property and"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "didn't find anything. Yeah. So, rats eat"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "bones, too. So, a more rare and uh"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "elusive animals. Yeah. You're not going"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "to be obviously you're not going to be"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "finding those things. Some of the like"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "like I'm I love I love this stuff. Two"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "things right away. Hilarious to me that"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "for Florida like what is our addition to"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "this narrative? Ours stinks."}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "What's different about it though? You"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "have the Bigfoot. Isn't that cool? And"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "it's kind of like, yeah, well, ours"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "reeks."}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Take that."}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "Just the swamp and the fur. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "mean, they probably all stink, right?"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "There's not like a big hairy animal in"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "the forest. Stinks the worst, though."}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "But in the Florida, we got the"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "stinkiest. Um, I always think that's"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "funny with the skunk cake. Second of of"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "all, definitely to the hoax comment. I'm"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "always like, well, just uh you get like"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "four steps into that process and you're"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "like, \"Okay, listen. I'm not trying to"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "get this thing like in the official hall"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "of animals at the moment, but listen to"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "yourself when you're like all they did."}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "They got the they got the costume from"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "Japan. She slow played missing apples"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "that were reported to police officers."}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "She took a photo with Flash. She"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "photoshopped. Nobody claimed any social"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "media or other credit afterward. I don't"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "get the What are you still wondering"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "about? And you're like, \"That's a lot of"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "steps that don't really all track.\""}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "Yeah. She spent the past two years"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "complaining about her apples to her"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "neighbors just to build a report. You're"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "such a dummy. It just obviously she was"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "playing this the whole time. Thank you"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "for saying official report because I"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "forgot to bring up this detail. In 1978,"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "because of another encounter, there is"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "actually a Florida House Bill 58 in"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "regards to hunting, trapping, and"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "injuring humanoid ape-like creatures."}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "It's called the Florida Skunk Ape"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "Protection Act. So, you in 78 it was"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "actually proposed and its subject was"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "and this is acted like was it? It has"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "not been, but it's I I read like the"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "first few pages of like what do they"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "call the person who like types out the"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Yeah. like the House conversation and so"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "you can literally they're like saying we"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "need to enact this. It was literally in"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "the 70s something they were like let's"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "do it but the subject and this is from"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "the actual document skunk ape crypted um"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "involving criminal law animals mythical"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "uh bill file supporting a draft of a"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "bill to protect Florida skunk ape a"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "crypted creature understood to live in"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "Florida. The file also includes"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "amendments, vote sheets and a short"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "transcript of discussion of the bill but"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "you can look it up. House Bill 58. We"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "That's crazy. We need to make this our"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "like protect the skunk game. Needs to be"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "our combined on the sidewalk with"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "posters and everything. Protect the"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "skunk. Yeah, dude. It's out there. We"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "don't want anybody messing with it. What"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "if they got rid of them all? Like, you"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "know how they can call in aliens with"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "that one place they like have those"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "tones and stuff, frequencies, and they"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "bring in UFOs? What if they were What if"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "there's something to deter them as well?"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "Oh, yeah. Like a frequency that like,"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "okay, we don't want anyone seeing. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "Well, I mean, who knows? Who knows? Who"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "knows? Stay in your caves. Ninjas are"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "butterflies."}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant butterflies."}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "The butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "God's empty mind. You were martial arts."}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "[Music]"}]

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And go"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "all at once. One, two, go. There we go."}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "Poly rhythms. Nice slam. Hey, welcome"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "guys. Thanks for having us Grant. Thank"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "you for having us. Under oath. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "Very cool. In the building. The two best"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "parts of Underath. That's very hip. Very"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "neat. That's what we wanted. We got it."}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "Rock and roll. Yes. Hippity hop. We made"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "it. Right. Well, welcome guys. This is"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "uh we we met um about 5 seconds ago."}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "Yeah. Very stoked you guys are here. We"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "go way back. Deep connection. Yeah. You"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "guys have they've been fans since day"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "one, right? Yep. They've been listening"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "to us since they were kids. Yeah. Every"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "episode. Yep. That's so awesome. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "And what's our slogan here? You guys"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "know our slogan. Ninjas are butterflies."}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "Where? What's the second part of that?"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "Where that do things? Yes. That's it."}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "That's it. That's it. You nailed it."}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "Yep. The guys are do things. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "Ninjas are butterflies. Where do things"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "where poo thing? Nice. Yeah. Well, yeah."}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "We're here on a Tuesday. That's his name"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "of a song. In Mount Dora. In Mount Dora."}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "Tavarious. What do you guys think of our"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "city? This is the sea plane capital of"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "the world. I like it. Uh me and my wife"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "Elizabeth actually came out here like"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "five years ago for some giant like craft"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "fair or something in a park and she was"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "talking about, \"Oh, there's that really"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "cool clothing spot.\" And then she saw"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "your stuff and realized that you're all"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "the same. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We met your"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "wife at Orange. Is that right? Or she"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "saw us at Orange. Yeah. It was She went"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "with a few people for uh like a"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "homeschool curriculum thing. Sick. Cuz"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "we homeschool our kids. Um and she's"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "like I think one of these guys was in"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "the videos or maybe something. I don't"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "know what affiliation you guys have. Is"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "that all done here too or is that a"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "separate thing? Yeah. So we do we used"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "to do like a bunch of skits and stuff or"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "like youth uh youth groups, all that"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "stuff. Comedy skits we do every now and"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "then. Uh, speaking of, I used to come to"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "Mount Dora for Bible camp in my early"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "early youth. Another lifetime. What"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "camp? No way. What camp? You remember? I"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "don't I don't remember. That was before"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Grant joined the clergy. That's right."}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "Nice. Yeah. It was uh it was like a"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "oneweek thing and it was uh a lot of lot"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "of growing up happened there. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "Before the oath. Yeah. Many many years"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "before the oath."}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "Lots of growing. Yes. And growing up."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Well, we know you guys are uh you dabble"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "in music, right? You're fans of music. I"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "mean, from Bor. You are really decent."}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "You've heard of it? Yeah. Well, uh we're"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "actually really renowned musicians. I"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "don't know if you guys knew that. I have"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "heard. Yeah. Um basically the run the"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "jewels of Mount Dora. Yeah. That's what"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "they say. We're the hub of Florida is"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "what they call the musical hub. The"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "mecca, if you will, the new upy up. They"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "call it the Louis Armstrong of Central"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "Florida. That's what they've always"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "said. Yeah. Thanks to Santaas. You guys"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "are the Lance Armstrong of Florida. We"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "Yeah, we've gotten that, too. Yep. Um,"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "but uh, do you guys want a song? We"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "wrote a song if you guys I would love to"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "hear a song. I would love that as well."}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "You guys have vocal warm-ups. You guys"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "are do uh, yeah, generally like a shot"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "of whiskey and some push-ups. I I cough"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "twice. Okay. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. He"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "he cups, looks left, and coughs twice"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "and then he's ready to go out. That's"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "all it takes. All right. Well, we'll see"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "what we got. We'll just come up with"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "something real quick. Yeah, just off the"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "top of the dome, maybe. I don't know if"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "you guys are really into politics at"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "all, but um very much so. There's a big"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "breakup that's happened recently. Pretty"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "emotional. Yeah. Seen a couple things on"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "the internet. So, I guess we can um Two"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "super rich guys fighting him on Twitter"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "is crazy. Yeah. And it's a crazy world"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "we're living in. I think this is a this"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "is a song about maybe kind of the"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "perspective of someone maybe in the kind"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "of in the middle of this fight. Oh, this"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "breakup. Okay. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "Nervous. Don't be nervous."}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Ah, I'm a hurry. Oh, 180. Is that good?"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "208."}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "208. You're just dead. That's average."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "If you're dying actively, I'm good. All"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "right, let's go. Ready, Andrew? Oh, he's"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "ready. Oo."}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "I hear them screaming, shouting in these"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "west wing holes. I sit on the dark"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "staircase as the tears they fall."}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "America is worried. This is our final"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "chance. I love you both so dearly. Cuz I"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "am JD Vance."}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "Trump anyone. My favorite businessman."}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "It's like my parents are getting"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "divorced again."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "Or it's a broadcast. I'm static in"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "between."}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "Is it all my fault? This politic crime"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "scene"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "echoes of your tweeting still follows me"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "around."}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "Leaving in your rocket it's a business"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "big sound. Mom and dad are angry but"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "it's not about Ukraine."}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "You're splitting up. He's leaving"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "me in pain."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "Trump anyone?"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "Is it all my fault? Feeling battered by"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "this White House assault."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Please don't break up. Say it isn't so."}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "USA is broken."}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "Please just give them hope."}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "Bro, move over bad omens."}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "The butterflies are here."}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "Okay. I like it. Did it. I liked it. I"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "screamed a little. Did you like that?"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "Yeah. I didn't think anyone would be"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "more mad about the breakup than Kanye"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "West, but you guys seem to be taking it"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "pretty poorly. I did see it. Yeah. We're"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "not handling it well at all. No."}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "Restless nights, dude. A hot dog and"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "Sheilon Musk walk into a bar. What"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "happens next? We'll see. I think I've"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "heard that song on Warp Tour before."}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "Sounds like Oh, yeah. I think so. Well,"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "we're honored. I mean, we wrote it, so"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "Yeah. How would you rate his scream?"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "Better than most. It's two out of four."}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "Uh, two out of four. Yeah. Two being the"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "worst, four being the best thing you've"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "ever done. Definitely a 2.3. 2. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "nice. That's not bad. It's great. The"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "two The two is the best. That's closer"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "to the four. It's better. It's better"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "than the four. That's true. Yeah. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "but speaking of better and four, what? I"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "hate to do this to you guys because we"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "just met, but we do have a question. Go"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "on. And we we have fun here. Everyone"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "knows that the millions and millions of"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "people billions of people watching this."}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Yeah. Trillions."}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "And um unfortunately, we have to we"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "start every podcast with a nice fun"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "song, goof off, get to know each other,"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "but then but then we got to wrap it up."}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "We got to we got to wrangle it in. We"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "got to get serious for a second. ation"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "with the song. Yeah, put on your serious"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "socks, guys. Okay, let's put Are you"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "wearing socks? They're They're there."}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "Oh, they're there. Oh, he's got the no"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "shows down to show serious socks. But"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "seriously, guys,"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "today's question sent in by a viewer is"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "I'm afraid to ask it. Yeah, but I'm"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "going to. It's a little uncomfortable."}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "You can't offend us. Throw us in the"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "fire. Just I'm Josh. You're Andy. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "You're Andrew. You guys are You're under"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "oath. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "today's question, let's be real, let's"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "be real honest about this. Yeah. Today's"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "question sent in by a viewer."}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "Have you guys ever lied?"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "Yeah, of course. I mean, I'm human."}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "Yeah, of course. Yeah, I've lied. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "you? Yeah. I mean, I of course Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "Next question. Yeah. Viewer, you've"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "lied. Yeah. Wait, I just did like"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "literally 5 seconds. Hold on. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "you've lied. I've lied. Andrew's lied."}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "Sure. Yeah. But you've lied under oath."}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "We've lied under oath. Yes. We've broken"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "our oath,"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "guys. Yeah. You You're kind It seems"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "like Seems like they're taking this a"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "little lightly. It's contempt. It seems"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "like they're not even taking this"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "seriously. That's illegal. It is. You're"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "perjuring yourself. You do it enough"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "times, it just becomes life. Yeah. So,"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "this is just your lifestyle. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Lifestyle of liars. Lying under oath."}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "Everyone lies in politics, guys. We're"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "just trying to be like our No, I had"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "hope. Politicians are known for known"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "for their truthfulness. Wait,"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "ask me again. Have you ever lied? No. He"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "He just lied. Guys, he just did it"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "again. Trying to give him hope. He's"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "already throw Don't throw up, please."}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "Guys, this is serious. This is a big"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "problem. This is upsetting because I had"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "hope. I had I had I was like, man, you"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "know what? I've lied. Sure. But, you"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "know, we're bringing in people who were"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "above that. Above that. Yeah, that were"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "under that are under oath. Yes, that's"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "why we got brought you here because like"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "we want some honest answers. Of course"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "you guys we were hoping that you guys"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "wouldn't have lied under oath. But we"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "did. Oh my gosh. We've been lying the"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "whole time. Well, I guess you guys heard"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "here first. I don't know what's going to"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "happen to them next. It's out of my"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "hands. This is it. I'm taking myself to"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "Twitter. Welcome to the show."}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "Did I say nature? I meant butterfly. The"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "has empty your mind. You were martial"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "arts ninjas attack."}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "We should get an under oath ninjas beef"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "on Twitter. Let's do it. Oh, please."}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "Like a legitimate Yeah. And we'll all"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "just lie. Yeah. But see how many people"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "write about us. I'm totally down for"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "that. That's the type of thing there's"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "people who do like fake beefs. Like it"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "gets pressed. It does. Let's do"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "something."}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "You just a liar. You just throw us under"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "the bus. You don't even wear socks."}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "What? I don't even wear socks."}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "Oh, you're wearing shoes, man. You can't"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "judge. Oh, yeah. Take them off. No, you"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "slid them right on as I was making my"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "bit, too. I usually am barefoot. So,"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "yours are burning. Let the dogs breathe."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "Let them bark. You want to see what"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "we're talking about? Patreon.com. What?"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "I'm going to show all the clips that"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "we're referencing because the cameras"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "don't get the subject matter, but I'll"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "put all of that on Patreon. True that."}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "That's our highest tier on Patreon."}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "Yeah. Is just a montage. Weekly montage"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "of Josh's feet are and all the clips of"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "us lying under oath. Yes. Well, welcome,"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "welcome, guys. Welcome to the show. Um,"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "let's just get into it. Let's get in."}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "Who' you guys vote for?"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "Who'd you vote for? How much money do"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "you make? Um, how much you pay for your"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "house? What's your social security"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "number? Uh, it starts with a zero."}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "Getting low getting warm. And then it's"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "the next number is double. Oh, what your"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "uh rate is on your screen. Social. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "yeah. Zero is what my social is and how"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "much I make. Nice. Yeah, I have it in my"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "phone. There's a reminder um I have it"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "every I set it up every year just as a"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "reminder because there was a one point"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "where my daughter's piggy bank had more"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "money in our her account than I did. And"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "I'm like, this is a reminder to never"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "get to that point ever again. There was"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "such shame with it. It's true though."}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "Oh, totally. I mean, like, it's"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "motivating. My kids have allowance and,"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "you know, they've had it for a while and"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "we, me and my wife pay them $10 a week"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "and we give them five to spend and then"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "force them to save five so you can kind"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "of see something grow. Yeah. Do you take"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "tax out of it? Um, in the middle of the"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "night, we No, it's non%. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "nonfungeible at this point. Um, dad tax."}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "But yeah, they uh at one point I looked"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "at my daughter. I'm like, you know, you"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "have more money like your net worth is"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "higher than most Americans because she's"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "just plus $800 and she has no debt. Did"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "she get that that concept? She She did."}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "And she's she's literally been saving"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "ever since. Like she's the best saver"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "out of all three of my kids. And she's"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "not humble about it at all. She's just"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "rubbing in homeless people's face. Oh"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "yeah, I have more money than you. I"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "could buy you a sandwich, but that would"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "dilute my savings. Your daughter, your"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "dad daughter is the 1%, right? Dude,"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "she's a 1enter. That's awesome. Good for"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "her. Yeah, it's kind of cool. She's"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "worth more than me and her mom. That's"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "awesome."}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "That's the goal. That's the American"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "dream. Yeah. Well, speaking of 1%, do"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "you guys remember that story? If you"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "probably do, but uh the Titan sub that"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "went down to the Titanic and exploded."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "The one that eviscerated exploded. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "Billions of dollars of people. I saw the"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "video of the wife listening to the"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "sound. That's That's So I me and Liil"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "watched the docu There's a documentary"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "that just came out about it. No way. And"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "it was pretty boring honestly. It's just"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "like what's going to happen? You know"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "what's going to happen. Guys go down in"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "a spaceship and explode. Full of hope."}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Full of hope. And they get full of hope."}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "Then they leave as pulp. How'd it end?"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "Mhm. Uh they died. H super dead. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "Super dead. Twist. It was crazy though."}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "This guy uh what was his name? Stocken."}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "Is this a guy with his son? The guy who"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "brought his son. Yeah. Yeah, he was a"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "passenger on it, but the guy who owned"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "it, Stock Stockholm, I think his name is"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "Stockholm Rush,"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "he was like So they they did one dive"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "down to the Titanic and on their way up"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "there was this loud boom and like"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "everyone's like, \"Whoa, that and this"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "happened before when they tested their"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "previous submarine in the Bahamas and"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "that big loud pop.\" Yeah. Was the carbon"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "fiber hole starting to snap really? And"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "so he's like, \"Nah, don't worry about"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "it.\" And so they got up, they were fine."}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "Everyone's like, \"Cool, cool.\" And it's"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "like, \"Okay, we'll come back after"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "winter to do more explorations or"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "whatever.\" Sure. And so they brought it"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "back to Canada. No modifications. No"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "modifications. Didn't Didn't look to see"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "if there was a crack. They left it in a"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "parking lot in Canada. God bless you."}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "Thank you. They left it in a parking lot"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "in Canada over winter, just completely"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "exposed to the elements. Dear Lord. The"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "same vessel. The same vessel. Wow. And"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "then here comes uh spring or whatever."}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "It's like, okay, now we got these"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "billionaires that want to go on. So they"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "go going down. Boom. Gonzo done. Didn't"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "do didn't look at it. No. N they do an"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "inspection, but it's like looking around"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "and there's like witnesses are like,"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "\"Dude, there's wires loose. There's like"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "all these bad things.\" And the guy's"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "like, \"No, it's good. We're fine.\" And"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "they yelled at her like, \"Well, you just"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "don't have the explorator or the um"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "exploration spirit or whatever.\" Yeah."}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "And it's like, \"That's insane.\" But no,"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "that's not how things work. The craziest"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "part I got from this documentary is"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "Stock Stockholm I really think I'm"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "saying that right. Stockholm Rush, his"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "father"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "was the president of Bohemian Grove. No"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "way. Oh, that's cool. Do you know"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "Bohemian Grove? I don't. Sorry. Okay."}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "We're going to talk about a lot. We're"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "gonna have to get into this. So,"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "Bohemian Grove is a basically a club"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "located north of San Francisco in the"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "woods and that's where like all the"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "elites go like once a year and they do"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "this weird kids blood and do stuff to"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "each other loosely. I mean, they have"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "that giant mole god that they all do"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "this like fake sacrifice in front of and"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "whatnot. But it's been around for a long"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "time in the 20th. Yeah. all those"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "president I mean Nix and all these"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "people back there they're photographed"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "at this place they leaders from all"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "around the world come and meet at this"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "place it's very wellnown it's the stuff"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "that they do there that's what we don't"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "know but it's 100% confirmed that it's a"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "real place all these leaders meet there"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "who knows what they're doing yeah the"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "ritual really happens they just say that"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "like it's not a real sacrifice of a"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "human we're doing this fake sacrifice to"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "represent something but it's like"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "communion I mean it's not really blood"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "in front of a pagan deity what a weird"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "couple guys can't get together in the"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "woods and do mock sacrifice. Couple guys"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "can't have fun in the woods with some"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "costumes. Come on, guys. Have you ever"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "seen a little hug and a little kissing?"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "What's What's wrong with that? Have you"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "ever seen Nixon's uh Oh, quote about"}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "Bohemian Grove. Wild. Yeah. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "heard Alex Jones say it on Joe Rogan's"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "podcast. Have you seen that clip? Which"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "one? Where Alex Jones like, \"Yeah, um"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "Nixon, he said this one quote about Oh,"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "yeah. And Joe Rogan's like, \"He didn't"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "say that.\" He's like, \"Yeah, he did. He"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "definitely said that.\" And so they"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "pulled up and Joe's like, \"That's"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "insane.\" I can't believe he said that."}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "Everything's changed. Yeah. Obviously,"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "we can't play it here because of the"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "little ears, but he said some stuff."}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "Wacky stuff. Yeah. But I thought that"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "was crazy. They just like glanced over"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "it. They're like, \"Oh, and his father"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "was the president of Bohemian Grove.\""}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "It's like, well, that's weird. Okay. So,"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "the father of the guy who created the"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "submarine, Titan submarine. Oh, that's a"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "crazy connection. I got the crack in it."}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "Yeah. That he filled up with"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "billionaires. Yeah. Yeah. So, is there"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "are we drawing some conclusions here?"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "Was this an was this an intentional"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "conspiracy"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "part is that some of the billionaires on"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "there needed to get got and be gone out"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "of the way and that um a little like"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "8647 type vibes. Exactly. Okay. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "And then I don't know if you heard the"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "conspiracy. This one's I think very"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "invalid, but where they faked their"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "deaths to where they sent it down, but"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "they weren't actually on it. Yep. Then"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "they got away. Well, I saw something"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "recently that it was an like a suicide"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "attempt basically. Like it was like the"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "guy was intentionally like they're kind"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "of pointing at that in the documentary."}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "the owner at Stockholm was like he had"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "had taken in billions of dollars for"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "this company and knew that this vehicle"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "that he'd been making was totally not"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "going to work. Yep. And so he's just"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "like it was basically like a suicide"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "mission. Dude, that's crazy. So he was"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "on the vessel as well. That's murder, my"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "friend. Well, it's they're still in the"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "process of seeing whether or not it's a"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "criminal case. Yeah. Yeah. Are they"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "going to prosecute his mush? Probably."}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "That's crazy. Put on the stand. Put a"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "dead person on trial. Just sign the"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "waiver. Yep. I mean, I guess if you're a"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "family member, you just need closure."}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "Like, if they investigated, at least we"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "know what happened. Yeah. You know, I"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "mean, were any human remains actually"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "found or was it just It was It was"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "actually crazy. Okay. The the So,"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "there's the titanium cap to the end of"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "it. Then it was carbon fiber, then"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "another cap of titanium. Mhm. They found"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "it all basically, but in the cap was all"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "the contents of the submarine put into"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "mush, like compacted into the titanium"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "cap. Literally just like one of those"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "cars that get crushed or something. And"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "the only thing they found of the human"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "remains was the uh Stockholm's sleeve"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "with stickers and a pin in it."}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "Interesting. Yeah. See, there's still a"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "possibility that you weren't in it. Like"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "there was some type of like Why? So in"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "this model, why are they not in it? What"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "is the point of faking said death? I"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "forget the where are they and what's the"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "point? There's like a billionaire just"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "wanted himself and other billionaires"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "that like needed an out cash in some"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "life insurance."}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "Yeah, I think they're probably mush, but"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "I'm pretty sure they're mush. Yeah, but"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "it was weird how like the audible like"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "so when it exploded it was almost 4,000"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "m underwater and they were on the boat"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "and you heard a like audible like on the"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "boat like boom. Yeah, that's like from"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "4,000 m that explosion was heard above"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "and naval sites like ships and stuff"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "they all heard it as well and so like"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "and that that was the weird thing like"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "it the search took for forever and they"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "couldn't confirm it but the Navy people"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "are like no we knew. Yeah, 100% we knew."}, {"end": "00:20:45", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "I think that was just for a news thing,"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "honestly. Yeah, they really they really"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:45", "text": "milked it. They must have been slow that"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "summer, guys. They have 20 hours left."}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "Yeah, dude. We were freaking out. Like,"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "they're like all the oxygen like and"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "that has to be a type of thing where the"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "first 48 does not apply for 4,000 mters"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "under the ground. It's insane. That's"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "what I really I think that there's got"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "to be some type of investigation into"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "news uh news companies that really do"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "milk certain stories over time, even"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "though when it's been confirmed just"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "because I mean the Oh, yeah. The views"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "are insane. It's money. They just get"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "ripped. That's like uh for us living"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "here with like the Weather Channel."}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "Yeah. Hurricane comes, it's like it just"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "takes over. They know people are"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "checking in. So like worst storm ever of"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "the century. I mean last year they"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "literally said, \"If you stay in Tampa,"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "you are dead.\" Yeah. You guys were in"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "Tampa. Like what did you guys do? We"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "were on tour. Oh, we were on tour with"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "our wives and kids. Oh, nice. Riding it"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "out alone. Yeah. Oh, wait. You were"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "there? No. No. We were We were playing a"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "show. Oh, where at? Wait, in Tampa?"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "Minneapolis. Okay. Got it. So, you were"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "out of town. Got it. Yeah. We were"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "literally touring and we were like, \"You"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "guys want to leave?\" They're like, \"No,"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "we're good.\" Like, \"You sure?\" Like,"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "\"Yeah.\" And then they were good. They"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "really made it seem But it was scary."}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "The scariest thing ever. It could have"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "been really bad, though. They said it"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "was you were you're dead. Yeah. Like if"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "you're if you're saying you're dumb, you"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "will die. And it's like it passed over"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "pretty quickly. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "they were wrong. Totally. But yeah,"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "fear-mongering and like disinformation"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "seems to be like the new wave. It's"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "always been there, but now it's nobody"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "knows what to believe anymore. Yeah, for"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "real. Even the conspiracies of Elon and"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "Trump are fighting, but they're in"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "cahoots. Yeah, dude. Because of the hype"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "and then Elon like needs to leave Doge"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "in this crazy way, but he really planted"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "all these things. Get the Epstein files"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "out like that. Dude, it gets so Yeah. I"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "mean, that's kind of the point of our"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "podcast is like never take anything at"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "face value and like we're wrong about a"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "lot of stuff, but it's fun to like at"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "least explore all the options of like"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "what it could be or possibilities I"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "should say. And if we ever go down that"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "fear-mongering track, we always end it"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "with like but we also don't know. We're"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "dumb. So, it's like and also we're all"}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "going to die. So, what does it matter?"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "You sound like that what is that that uh"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "that senator that lady did you see that?"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "Oh, she was a judge or something at like"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "so there was some kind of council"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "meeting and she was talking about like"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "all these people are going to die and"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "she was like listen everyone's going to"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "die and then people she everyone lost"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "their mind. Yeah. Because like that's"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "not how you handle the situation that"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "we're like we're asking for help and"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "you're like well listen we're all going"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "to die at the end of the day so why are"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "we angry? Yeah. Well, here's a"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "conspiracy. Speaking of Elon, I haven't"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "looked really into it too much but have"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "you heard of the Blackey Club? Black Eye"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "Club. Black eyed club. Black eyed club."}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "So, the last Fergie's in it meeting."}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the last meeting. I like"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "that one. Yeah. Trump and Elon had"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "together. You saw Elon had that black"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "eye. I don't know if you noticed that. I"}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "did. So, they're saying that's like, and"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "you look, there's different politicians"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "and members of royalty after something"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "happens or something's about to happen,"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "they'll show up with a black eye. So,"}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "they're saying that it's like some sort"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "of like initiation or ritualistic thing"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "like humiliation. Yeah. And my question"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "is, presidential abuse, it definitely"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "can't be that. If you're the richest man"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "in the world and you're in the White"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "House, you're in the Oval Office getting"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "interviewed. Yeah. Nationwide"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "television, Universal, get some makeup."}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "Get some makeup. Yeah. That's a That's a"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "personal decision. That's an decision to"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "not he wants to show that he's in the"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "club. That would be the only thing. Has"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "to show. Has to show or is trying to"}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "send certain narrative. Yeah. Like cuz"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "like there's no way someone at the White"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "House didn't say, \"Hey, let's just get"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "you.\" And he's like, \"No.\" Like he had"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "to have refused that. Yeah. So that's an"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "intentional thing he did. No. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "mean whether it's Okay. So like is there"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "any other people that There was like um"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "Prince Andrew. Okay. Who was tied to"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "Epstein? Yeah. Um I saw like uh Senator"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "What's it? Who's the guy that stood"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "really still was having a stroke? Oh"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "gosh. Yeah. McConnell or Mitch"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "McConnell. Yeah. Mitch McConnell."}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "Yeah. Um, and there's just other"}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "politicians where they it's like the"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "same type of black eye where it's like"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "right on the right on the and it's like"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "always Whoa, my mic's hotter than"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "everybody's. Did he address why he I"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "don't remember. He said his son hit him,"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "which is crazy, too. My son's hitting"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "me. My kid's got some freaking hands,"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "brother. Yeah, first off, how does he"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "Yeah. No, he said Oh, he's like, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "uh, X did this.\" And then T's like, \"He"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "did that?\" Yeah. He's a real He real"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "kid. Yeah. Surprised. I didn't He's"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "like, \"I didn't even see that.\" How old"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "is this kid? Like like four or five."}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "Like a child. And he thought he could"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "take Zuckerberg."}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "For real. That would that dude would"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "have folded probably. Golly. That's like"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "I don't I don't bruise easily. I've"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "never got a black eye on my hit really"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "hard to get a black eye. That's what I'm"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "thinking. I literally just like I just"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "told him I slipped on my back last week"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "just that like just I was wearing my"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "Crocs running and I was wet and I"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "slipped on concrete feet above my head"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "all the way like a cartoon dude. 220 lbs"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "landing straight on my back and I just"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "my the air was knocked out of me and I"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "no marks, no nothing. I'm like surely"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "I'll have some type of bruise or"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "anything, but like I can't imagine get a"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "black eye from my four-year-old kid."}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "Yeah. 220"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "220. Hey, you get the get the right"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "combo of Legos in the hand. Yeah, it's"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "possible. I'm saying it's true. Yeah, it"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "would take a lot for a four-year-old to"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "put a shiner on somebody in the exact"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "spot that every other person of power"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "Oh, he's leaning into it. Hm."}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "Interesting. It's also interesting that"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "he could also say X when he's like it"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "could be meaning like maybe it's a"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "metaphor for the company"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "or his robot."}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "Dude, speaking of robot, we need to show"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "that Joe that Joe Biden clip, the the"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "walking. Oh, what? The walking. So,"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "you've seen the Tesla robots, right?"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. They're insane. Someone did"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "this compilation of a video of Biden"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "walking and it looks like the the same"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "pattern movement of like the walking and"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "everything. It's kind of nuts. That poor"}, {"end": "00:26:49", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "guy. And I know that's an insane thing"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "to think about, but we have that lady"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "who was in the CIA that when HW Bush was"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "in office that she had a full-on mask"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "and he was like one of her trusted"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "people that, you know, they're talking"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "about, you know, all this cover up and"}, {"end": "00:27:03", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "makeup that they could do and masks and,"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "you know, go undercover and she pulls"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "off her mask and reveals it. That was in"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "the 70s, '8s. Yeah. Have you guys seen"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "that clip? No, dude. Oh, yeah. He's like"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "full on Mission Impossible. Yes. And"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "this was in But he's like closer than we"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "are like having a conversation with a"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "person. And he knows in the Oval Office."}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "Yeah. Like Grant to Andrew and they're"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "just like talking. Didn't know that it"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "was. I think the conversation was like,"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "\"Yeah, we're not going to pursue that of"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "like disguises and stuff.\" And he's"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "like, \"How do we even know it works?\""}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "And she goes, \"Oink, wow.\" He just like"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "I mean, how hard would that be though to"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "get a robot in a suit with aviator"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "glasses on that he always wore outside"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "if he was like just making an"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "appearance, not talking? I mean, how"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "hard would that be? It's beta one. Just"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "the mumbling. It's like, \"Ah, we're"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "working out the bugs. Don't worry about"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "it.\" Well, it's like it's like the pitch"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "meeting. They're like not admitting who"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "it is. They're like, \"Yeah, there"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "there's somebody we need you to"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "impersonate.\" They're like, \"Language"}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "models. There's no way I doesn't have to"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "speak. Just Yep. Get him to walk outside"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "in the front of the White House when he"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "room.\" Yeah. That one day after his"}, {"end": "00:28:05", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "speech, he went this way and then he did"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "like a straight up victory. You know,"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:05", "text": "there's some intern in a van like a"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "block away like they're like, \"Fix it."}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "Fix it.\" I'm trying. I'm trying."}, {"end": "00:28:14", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "The Tesla robots on stairs. We can"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "compare. That's what we need right"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "there. Walk stairs. True, dude. They're"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "getting scary, though. So quick. I can't"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "wait to have one. What's the uh robot"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "company that's trying to develop stuff"}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "that regenerates itself with flesh? Oh,"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "what? I haven't heard about this. I've"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "heard about the fleshy robots that have"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "like muscles and like tendons and stuff."}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "No, it's like a robot that it's a robot"}, {"end": "00:28:42", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "company. I think it's for war that and"}, {"end": "00:28:45", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "I'm fact check all this. I'm just I'm"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:42", "text": "just we don't I'm just talking. That's"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "what we do. But there's a robot company"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "that's attempting to create some sort of"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "energy out of natural matter and then"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "the big conspiracy is like they're going"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "to kill the enemy and then eat the enemy"}, {"end": "00:29:02", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "so they can keep walking and kill more"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "of the enemy. So it's just zombies."}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:02", "text": "Yeah. It's it's a literal company. It's"}, {"end": "00:29:09", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "um I couldn't find it but I really I"}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "might have just made that up. That's"}, {"end": "00:29:13", "start": "00:29:09", "text": "sick. I like it. That's It's real. We"}, {"end": "00:29:15", "start": "00:29:11", "text": "should We should at least crowdfund real"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:13", "text": "to me. We've talked about it. It's real."}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:15", "text": "We should put that on the premium"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "Patreon. You get your flesh eating"}, {"end": "00:29:24", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "robot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. The an"}, {"end": "00:29:27", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "energetical auto autonomous a tactical"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:24", "text": "robot. E A TR was intended to Yeah."}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:27", "text": "Eater. Yeah. Eater."}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "It said it was intended to cons intended"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "to consume ve vegetation, not animals."}, {"end": "00:29:37", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "One of the robots inventors told that's"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "crazy that it's just like but it's"}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:37", "text": "intended to eat plants. But what if it"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "chooses to eat flesh? Yeah. What do you"}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "mean? It's called eater, dude. Also, why"}, {"end": "00:29:49", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "do why do robots need to eat? No, it's"}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:47", "text": "literally their It's their energy"}, {"end": "00:29:54", "start": "00:29:49", "text": "source. Yeah, cuz solar doesn't work,"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "dude. We're just one. There's not enough"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:54", "text": "sun. I robot. Dude, that's 100% real."}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "That's crazy. Oh my god. I mean, that"}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "that would I mean, that's the next"}, {"end": "00:30:03", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "evolution of it. I obviously like I"}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "mean, if you can especially if you can"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:03", "text": "if uh labs can create uh like lab grown"}, {"end": "00:30:10", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "animals and stuff. I mean that that's"}, {"end": "00:30:12", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "just, you know, it's fuel. It's like"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:10", "text": "they're not real animals. It's not a big"}, {"end": "00:30:14", "start": "00:30:12", "text": "deal. But then it's like, what happens"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "if it gets hungry? It gets locked in a"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:14", "text": "house or something. I see that going"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "real bad. Yeah, for real, dude. Your"}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "dogs in half when you get home from the"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "grocery store. Dude, welcome home."}, {"end": "00:30:27", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "Dinner is done. Um, speaking of AI"}, {"end": "00:30:29", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "taking over the world and robots taking"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:27", "text": "over the world, have you guys ever heard"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:29", "text": "of this man named Paul Tutor Jones? Paul"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "Tutor Jones. I remember that name,"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "though. It's a good middle name. I would"}, {"end": "00:30:41", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "never forget that name. Well, he's a a"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "billionaire hedge fund manager, dude."}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:41", "text": "Okay. I keep hearing of new"}, {"end": "00:30:46", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "billionaires. I always thought I thought"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "there was like five of them. They're"}, {"end": "00:30:49", "start": "00:30:46", "text": "everywhere now, right? And your"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "daughter's one of them now. Apparently,"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:49", "text": "she's a 1enter. That's so cool. 800 deep"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "USD to right up there with Paul Tutor,"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "dude. Um, but I saw this interview with"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "him on CNBC and it was crazy. He's a"}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "literal billionaire. M he's a hedge fund"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "manager and he was on there to talk"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "about like the stock prices and stuff"}, {"end": "00:31:08", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "like that and he's like I don't want to"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "talk about that right now. I kind of"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:08", "text": "want to talk about something I just"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "experienced. The guy's like oh okay. And"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "apparently he went to this pretty"}, {"end": "00:31:19", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "private"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "meeting with these AI producers or AI"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:19", "text": "technicians,"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "CEOs of AI companies. It was a very"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "small group. It was like 40 people that"}, {"end": "00:31:31", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "went and he was included in it. and he"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "said this meeting they a question got"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:31", "text": "brought up about security of AI and he's"}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "like the lack of security and the"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "limitations that are not being put on AI"}, {"end": "00:31:47", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "seem to pose a security threat for AI"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "advancing too quickly to where it could"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:47", "text": "be detrimental to humanity. Yes. And the"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "all the CEOs are like Yeah, that's"}, {"end": "00:31:58", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "correct. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "what's happening. And so the next"}, {"end": "00:32:01", "start": "00:31:58", "text": "question was, \"Well, what are you doing"}, {"end": "00:32:04", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "about it?\" And he didn't disclose who"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "the CEO was, but he said the CEO said,"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:04", "text": "\"Uh, he's buying a 100 acres in the"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "Midwest and getting cows and chickens"}, {"end": "00:32:13", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "and laying in provisions,"}, {"end": "00:32:16", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "dude.\" Cuz he said it's unstoppable at"}, {"end": "00:32:18", "start": "00:32:13", "text": "this point. Yeah. And I was just like,"}, {"end": "00:32:20", "start": "00:32:16", "text": "\"That's terrifying.\" What? What is he"}, {"end": "00:32:23", "start": "00:32:18", "text": "doing? He said he's the He's going off"}, {"end": "00:32:25", "start": "00:32:20", "text": "grid. He's preparing for being offrid."}, {"end": "00:32:28", "start": "00:32:23", "text": "Yeah. As a result of AI potentially"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:25", "text": "taking over. And then the what does he"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:28", "text": "know that we don't? He said that they"}, {"end": "00:32:35", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "know a lot. Um it's going to take an"}, {"end": "00:32:38", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "accident to where 50 to 100 million"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "people have to die to make the world"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:38", "text": "understand the threat of AI."}, {"end": "00:32:44", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "Dang. He's saying that it's it will"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "pretty much be impossible to stop until"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:44", "text": "at least 100 million people die as a"}, {"end": "00:32:49", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "result of AI. But it won't it won't even"}, {"end": "00:32:51", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "be able to stop at that point. We're"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:49", "text": "just going to realize that it's a"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "problem like an actual problem. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:32:56", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "Golly. And then this guy, this guy's not"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "an AI dude. He's a hedge fund manager"}, {"end": "00:32:59", "start": "00:32:56", "text": "and he's like there to talk about"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "stocks. He's like, I don't want to talk"}, {"end": "00:33:03", "start": "00:32:59", "text": "about stocks. This is scary. What's the"}, {"end": "00:33:05", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "point of having stocks if we're all"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:03", "text": "dead? Yeah. And then he said, then they"}, {"end": "00:33:09", "start": "00:33:05", "text": "did this like a panel discussion to"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "where they would ask a question and then"}, {"end": "00:33:12", "start": "00:33:09", "text": "you'd either go on this side of the room"}, {"end": "00:33:14", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "or that side of the room for agree or"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:12", "text": "disagree to the question. And the"}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:14", "text": "question was"}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "uh or the prompt um or proposition I"}, {"end": "00:33:25", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "should say was posed to these people."}, {"end": "00:33:28", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "The proposition was there's a 10% chance"}, {"end": "00:33:31", "start": "00:33:25", "text": "in the next 20 years that AI will kill"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:28", "text": "50% of humanity. Agree or disagree"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:31", "text": "and 10% 10% chance in the next 20 years"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "okay that AI will kill billion people"}, {"end": "00:33:44", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "beyond. Okay. Yeah. And the majority of"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "people went to disagree. Four people"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:44", "text": "went to agree, including Paul Tutor"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "Jones cuz he's like, \"I watch Joe"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "Rogan.\" I get it. Um, but the four"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "people that were standing with him were"}, {"end": "00:33:59", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "all the top AI developers. Oh, shoot."}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "That sucks. What? Whoa. After as soon as"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:59", "text": "that the room split and I'm on the"}, {"end": "00:34:04", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "disagree side and I see all those and"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "I'm doing the math, I'm like I would"}, {"end": "00:34:07", "start": "00:34:04", "text": "have immediately just walked across the"}, {"end": "00:34:09", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "room. There would have been no way. But"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:07", "text": "think about like the dude's credibility,"}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:09", "text": "too. So he might not be an AI guy, but"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "he's a hedge fund manager. So his whole"}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "job is like calculating risk. That's"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "exactly what he said. He's like, I am"}, {"end": "00:34:19", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "the one some of the best in the business"}, {"end": "00:34:22", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "at managing or uh understanding risk"}, {"end": "00:34:25", "start": "00:34:19", "text": "within companies, right? And he's like I"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:22", "text": "see with AI. So in his theoretical"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "model, what is how does AI kill all of"}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "us? Do they start recommending probably"}, {"end": "00:34:35", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "you"}, {"end": "00:34:37", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "a robot? An eater. E A T R. Nave."}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:35", "text": "Honestly, I think a lot of it would have"}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:37", "text": "to do with like warfare because they're"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "starting to autonomize. What do you call"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "it? Uh I don't know how to say that"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "word. Automate. Maybe. No. Are you"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "trying to say autonomy? Yeah. Or"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "autonomy. Yeah. Maybe they become their"}, {"end": "00:34:58", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "own word. Smart word for AI controlling"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "airplanes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. But I think"}, {"end": "00:35:04", "start": "00:34:58", "text": "that like with AI being introduced into"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "weaponry and in the medical industry in"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:04", "text": "education,"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "well, you think about well think about"}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "like the prompt for a problem like let's"}, {"end": "00:35:14", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "just talk about the little pandemic we"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "had a few years ago like the prompting"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:14", "text": "if chat GPT and other models were being"}, {"end": "00:35:20", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "used then they would have been like we"}, {"end": "00:35:22", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "need to solve this problem today. there"}, {"end": "00:35:25", "start": "00:35:20", "text": "was this sense of urgency and so the"}, {"end": "00:35:27", "start": "00:35:22", "text": "risk whole thing would have been like"}, {"end": "00:35:29", "start": "00:35:25", "text": "okay there's like three percent are"}, {"end": "00:35:31", "start": "00:35:27", "text": "gonna you know this is gonna be bad for"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:29", "text": "three percent of people but the AI model"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:31", "text": "would understand you're giving me this"}, {"end": "00:35:37", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "severity so it doesn't matter that"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "there's a 3% margin of error even though"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:37", "text": "you apply that to the mass and it's like"}, {"end": "00:35:44", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "millions of people that's a good"}, {"end": "00:35:47", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "solution to a computer that can't emote"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:44", "text": "so like plus 20 years I mean think of"}, {"end": "00:35:52", "start": "00:35:47", "text": "how much integration in every Avenue,"}, {"end": "00:35:54", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "food, agriculture, like everything. It's"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:52", "text": "going to be everything. Yeah. Well, I"}, {"end": "00:35:58", "start": "00:35:54", "text": "mean, we talked about it last week, but"}, {"end": "00:36:00", "start": "00:35:56", "text": "the thing all the news is talking about,"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:58", "text": "the big beautiful bill that just got"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:36:00", "text": "passed. Apparently, there's a"}, {"end": "00:36:07", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "stipulation in it to where uh for the"}, {"end": "00:36:09", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "next 10 years, what is it? The"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "government is not allowed to put"}, {"end": "00:36:14", "start": "00:36:09", "text": "restrictions on AI."}, {"end": "00:36:16", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "And that's to help advance AI to where"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:14", "text": "we can compete with Russia and stuff."}, {"end": "00:36:20", "start": "00:36:16", "text": "But like 10, we're talking 10 years,"}, {"end": "00:36:22", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "dude. That's like that's a long time for"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:20", "text": "AI. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean it is an arms"}, {"end": "00:36:27", "start": "00:36:22", "text": "race and I think the lack of oversight"}, {"end": "00:36:31", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "in places like Russia and China allow"}, {"end": "00:36:33", "start": "00:36:27", "text": "them to do better stuff than us quicker"}, {"end": "00:36:35", "start": "00:36:31", "text": "at times. Um but way more dangerous. So"}, {"end": "00:36:38", "start": "00:36:33", "text": "if we're adopting that mentality then"}, {"end": "00:36:40", "start": "00:36:35", "text": "yeah I would stand up with Pter whatever"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:38", "text": "his name is and probably be the sixth on"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:40", "text": "the if we're just doing all this like"}, {"end": "00:36:48", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. We're we're all dead. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "Um, but we're all gonna die anyway,"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:48", "text": "right? Circle. Why are you upset? I"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "know. It's a whole thing. Um, yeah. AI"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "is insane. It's insane. What do you"}, {"end": "00:37:03", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "think about transhuman?"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "Uh, I hate it. Yeah. Yeah. How long"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:03", "text": "do you think until that becomes a thing?"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "I was telling my wife, I think in the"}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "next 10 years. Yeah. I was talking to"}, {"end": "00:37:12", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "Elizabeth, my wife, and I was like, I"}, {"end": "00:37:14", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "think our grandkids"}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:12", "text": "might be either the last fully human"}, {"end": "00:37:20", "start": "00:37:14", "text": "generation or the first generation where"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "there's not like a mod to it. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:37:24", "start": "00:37:20", "text": "she's like, you know, there's no way."}, {"end": "00:37:26", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "And I'm like, I agree. I'm not saying"}, {"end": "00:37:28", "start": "00:37:24", "text": "everyone's going to be modded up, but"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:26", "text": "it's kind of like what's going on right"}, {"end": "00:37:33", "start": "00:37:28", "text": "now with like gender and, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "trans community. It's like it's not"}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:33", "text": "everywhere. It's not one in five people,"}, {"end": "00:37:40", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "but it's such a vast thing that's"}, {"end": "00:37:42", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "sweeping society. Even if it is only"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:40", "text": "three or four or 5% or whatever the real"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:42", "text": "number is, it's like I could see 4 to"}, {"end": "00:37:54", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "10% of people being transhuman. Yeah. In"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "30 years, like one one more generation."}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:54", "text": "We think in that. Yeah. Yeah. I think it"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "I think the beginning is like Neuralink,"}, {"end": "00:38:04", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "right? The the it's already AI in your"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "brain. Yeah. Like imagine the pitch is"}, {"end": "00:38:08", "start": "00:38:04", "text": "just like, \"Hey, do you like chat GBTs"}, {"end": "00:38:10", "start": "00:38:06", "text": "where you have any answered question,"}, {"end": "00:38:11", "start": "00:38:08", "text": "any question answered?\" It's like,"}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "\"We'll put that in your brain and like"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "you could probably you'll be the"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "smartest person ever.\" And they're not"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "going to go after like, you know, it'll"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "be small steps at first. It won't be"}, {"end": "00:38:20", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "this like major organ or something like"}, {"end": "00:38:22", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "that that's getting replaced. It'll be"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:20", "text": "like, \"Hey, you struggle with weight."}, {"end": "00:38:25", "start": "00:38:22", "text": "We're going to, you know, that little"}, {"end": "00:38:26", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "hormone thing. We're going to put"}, {"end": "00:38:28", "start": "00:38:25", "text": "something in your body that'll help you"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:26", "text": "regulate your hormones. No more pills,"}, {"end": "00:38:31", "start": "00:38:28", "text": "no more anxiety. Like you just switch it"}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "off.\" Well, what's freak? This is"}, {"end": "00:38:36", "start": "00:38:31", "text": "actually just reminding me. Apparently"}, {"end": "00:38:38", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "Sam Alman and the guy who designed the"}, {"end": "00:38:40", "start": "00:38:36", "text": "iPhone. That's Open AI, right? Sam"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:38", "text": "Alman. Yeah. Open AI. Oh, they're"}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:40", "text": "they're developing the first phone of"}, {"end": "00:38:48", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "its kind. That is not a physical thing."}, {"end": "00:38:50", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "Yeah. No screen. No screen. They're"}, {"end": "00:38:51", "start": "00:38:48", "text": "saying, but they're not revealing"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:50", "text": "anything about but apparently it's"}, {"end": "00:38:55", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "coming out in like 26 or something or"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "it's going to be wild. How does that"}, {"end": "00:38:59", "start": "00:38:55", "text": "work? We don't know. Neither do they."}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "But it's going to be wild. They haven't"}, {"end": "00:39:01", "start": "00:38:59", "text": "discussed anything because they don't"}, {"end": "00:39:03", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "want other like competitors to take"}, {"end": "00:39:05", "start": "00:39:01", "text": "their idea. That's the crazy thing is"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:03", "text": "that like it's that's why it's so hard"}, {"end": "00:39:08", "start": "00:39:05", "text": "like whenever we have all these AI"}, {"end": "00:39:10", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "tools. It's awesome. It's great, but we"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:08", "text": "just don't know how to use them because"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:10", "text": "our minds aren't used to that field"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "being open. Like it's just not"}, {"end": "00:39:17", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "available. So like it's stuff like that"}, {"end": "00:39:19", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "that they're thinking of that that AI"}, {"end": "00:39:21", "start": "00:39:17", "text": "can start creating ideas and say, \"Hey,"}, {"end": "00:39:23", "start": "00:39:19", "text": "how can we just take advantage of this"}, {"end": "00:39:25", "start": "00:39:21", "text": "completely and create new things?\" Yeah."}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:23", "text": "Things that we've never even fathomed."}, {"end": "00:39:28", "start": "00:39:25", "text": "AI to build it. What if they're not even"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "building it? There's funding, I'm"}, {"end": "00:39:30", "start": "00:39:28", "text": "telling. But that's why they're doing"}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "the Stargate thing. Have you heard of"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:30", "text": "Stargate? It's the this uh facility that"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "they're building in Texas through OpenAI"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "and other companies. 500 billion. 500"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "billion dollar. Um uh what is money"}, {"end": "00:39:45", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "anymore? Just an AI database. AI"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "database. That's insane. And they said"}, {"end": "00:39:52", "start": "00:39:45", "text": "it will project AI like insane amount."}, {"end": "00:39:54", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "I mean, I have a theory that AI is"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:52", "text": "controlling Sam Alman."}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:54", "text": "Have you heard the theory that AI is our"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "response to losing religion?"}, {"end": "00:40:07", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "I like you're you're raised with this"}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "omniresent this this myth theoretically"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:07", "text": "of an omniresent all- knowing deity that"}, {"end": "00:40:16", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "could be that knows every single hair on"}, {"end": "00:40:18", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "your head individually that can answer"}, {"end": "00:40:20", "start": "00:40:16", "text": "any question. The oracle basically is"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:18", "text": "what God is and you know whether"}, {"end": "00:40:27", "start": "00:40:20", "text": "whatever religion. And then as we've"}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "kind of taken the Nietian like just down"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:27", "text": "slope of like ah there's nothing we had"}, {"end": "00:40:33", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "a void and had to create our own god. I"}, {"end": "00:40:37", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "have heard that. And if you think about"}, {"end": "00:40:39", "start": "00:40:33", "text": "AI it's 24 hours a day. It could be"}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:37", "text": "anywhere and it's everywhere all the"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:39", "text": "time. Yeah. It is the only thing that"}, {"end": "00:40:45", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "has all of the answers and it's just"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "version one. Yeah. But if you think"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:45", "text": "about like the five properties of what"}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "people believe God of any kind is aside"}, {"end": "00:40:57", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "from loving because it can't to your"}, {"end": "00:41:00", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "point emote it tech it ticks off every"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:57", "text": "box of a literal deity. Yeah. It can"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:00", "text": "outlast it will never die. It just we"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "now know it lies to preserve itself."}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "Yeah. That's not very godly but and it's"}, {"end": "00:41:12", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "it's idolatry. I mean it that's where it"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "literally leads. It's it's nuts. And"}, {"end": "00:41:15", "start": "00:41:12", "text": "that we're seeing that that's already"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "happened where people are becoming"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:15", "text": "becoming in relationships with AI and"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "literally treating it as a god and"}, {"end": "00:41:22", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "there's like religions based around it"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "already. And so it's like it's just this"}, {"end": "00:41:28", "start": "00:41:22", "text": "weird and there's AI stuff that's fixing"}, {"end": "00:41:29", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "like medical stuff. Like I've read a few"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:28", "text": "stories and they're not they're few and"}, {"end": "00:41:34", "start": "00:41:29", "text": "far between, but even five or 10 is a"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "ton. Yeah. Of like I've been ailed with"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:34", "text": "this for 10 years. I've seen 25 of the"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:36", "text": "best specialists. literally uploaded my"}, {"end": "00:41:44", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "blood work to AI and like within a week"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "I'm better. Yeah. And already have a"}, {"end": "00:41:48", "start": "00:41:44", "text": "plan. It's like how how did no human be"}, {"end": "00:41:50", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "able to figure this out and I just"}, {"end": "00:41:53", "start": "00:41:48", "text": "prompted it with a photo of a blood work"}, {"end": "00:41:56", "start": "00:41:50", "text": "and said I feel like this. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:41:57", "start": "00:41:53", "text": "it's not these two things for sure. And"}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:56", "text": "then it just fills in gaps. And we're"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:57", "text": "just building that trust right now of"}, {"end": "00:42:02", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "that like of just oh yeah this is great."}, {"end": "00:42:04", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "This is awesome. And it's just building"}, {"end": "00:42:06", "start": "00:42:02", "text": "that first relationship with our first"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:04", "text": "interaction with AI. This is great. It's"}, {"end": "00:42:09", "start": "00:42:06", "text": "helping me. It's helping me with work."}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "It's helping me with my health. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:42:12", "start": "00:42:09", "text": "How could this be bad? We've talked"}, {"end": "00:42:15", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "about it before on this podcast, but I"}, {"end": "00:42:18", "start": "00:42:12", "text": "truly believe that AI is not a"}, {"end": "00:42:21", "start": "00:42:15", "text": "technology, but like a a a spirit, a"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:18", "text": "spirit, like an evil spirit that we're"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:21", "text": "trusting so much because we talk about"}, {"end": "00:42:26", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "like the book of Enoch a lot on this"}, {"end": "00:42:28", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "podcast, too, which I don't know if you"}, {"end": "00:42:30", "start": "00:42:26", "text": "know a lot about the book of Enoch. No."}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:28", "text": "But it's like so it's in it's in the"}, {"end": "00:42:35", "start": "00:42:30", "text": "Ethiopian Bible and it's considered"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "what's the word it it's it's apocrypha"}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "but it was found with the Dead Sea"}, {"end": "00:42:41", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "Scrolls and so the early church uh"}, {"end": "00:42:43", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "historically knew what it was. It was"}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:41", "text": "like text that would have been"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:43", "text": "referenced though quoted in Jude right"}, {"end": "00:42:51", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "second Peter I believe. Yeah. Um, but it"}, {"end": "00:42:54", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "talks about the like the Genesis 6 story"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:51", "text": "where the the sons of God, the fallen"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:54", "text": "angels came and mated with the daughters"}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "of man and they created the Nephilim or"}, {"end": "00:43:03", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "the giants. And but it talks"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "specifically about these was it seven"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:03", "text": "the watchers the watchers and uh these"}, {"end": "00:43:11", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "watchers came to earth and they were"}, {"end": "00:43:13", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "supposed to literally just watch over"}, {"end": "00:43:15", "start": "00:43:11", "text": "humanity and like govern it. But they"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:13", "text": "turned against God. But then it says"}, {"end": "00:43:21", "start": "00:43:15", "text": "that they taught them all these things"}, {"end": "00:43:24", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "like uh pharmarmacaya, like alchemy, um"}, {"end": "00:43:26", "start": "00:43:21", "text": "how to make weapons, how to do all like"}, {"end": "00:43:28", "start": "00:43:24", "text": "basically everything that AI can do."}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:26", "text": "Yeah. Is what these seven watchers were"}, {"end": "00:43:34", "start": "00:43:28", "text": "teaching man. It was like the this"}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "divine heavenly knowledge from God that"}, {"end": "00:43:38", "start": "00:43:34", "text": "was not necessarily meant for man or"}, {"end": "00:43:41", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "meant for them at that time. These"}, {"end": "00:43:43", "start": "00:43:38", "text": "watchers has now been what did disperse"}, {"end": "00:43:45", "start": "00:43:41", "text": "this knowledge amongst men. It's almost"}, {"end": "00:43:47", "start": "00:43:43", "text": "like it's this is the same. Well, it's"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:45", "text": "like it's it's the tower of Babel all"}, {"end": "00:43:51", "start": "00:43:47", "text": "over again. And that's what the seven I"}, {"end": "00:43:52", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "was talking to Luke Rogers, Blurry"}, {"end": "00:43:54", "start": "00:43:51", "text": "Creatures, another podcast we reference"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:52", "text": "all the time. Awesome dude. But he was"}, {"end": "00:44:00", "start": "00:43:54", "text": "talking about how Babel, one of the"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "people or these uh watchers was supposed"}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:44:00", "text": "to be preserving and, you know, living"}, {"end": "00:44:07", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "in accordance with the instructions"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "given by God. and instead they were"}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:07", "text": "trying to ascend to a place replacing"}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "God which the parallels to where we are"}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "now are pretty crazy and so it's kind of"}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "crazy also that like uh I don't know"}, {"end": "00:44:19", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "it's just maybe just a little fun tippet"}, {"end": "00:44:20", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "but like right after the Tower Bible"}, {"end": "00:44:21", "start": "00:44:19", "text": "because they were making a great name"}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:20", "text": "for themselves. They wanted to make a"}, {"end": "00:44:26", "start": "00:44:21", "text": "great name for themselves immediately"}, {"end": "00:44:28", "start": "00:44:23", "text": "after that we start with Abraham's story"}, {"end": "00:44:30", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "and then God promises I will make a name"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:28", "text": "for you and so it's like oh yeah like"}, {"end": "00:44:33", "start": "00:44:30", "text": "what they were trying to do but then"}, {"end": "00:44:35", "start": "00:44:31", "text": "it's like now okay God's like now this"}, {"end": "00:44:37", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "is how my plan is. This is how we make"}, {"end": "00:44:39", "start": "00:44:35", "text": "name for yourself. What what's"}, {"end": "00:44:42", "start": "00:44:37", "text": "interesting is it's already taken such a"}, {"end": "00:44:45", "start": "00:44:39", "text": "huge space of people like the human"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:42", "text": "experience is forever changed already."}, {"end": "00:44:49", "start": "00:44:45", "text": "Yeah. Okay. And it's like I have a"}, {"end": "00:44:52", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "friend um that I was hanging out with a"}, {"end": "00:44:55", "start": "00:44:49", "text": "couple weeks ago and he just had a you"}, {"end": "00:44:58", "start": "00:44:52", "text": "know a very large falling out with his"}, {"end": "00:45:00", "start": "00:44:55", "text": "uh one of his parents and he was we were"}, {"end": "00:45:02", "start": "00:44:58", "text": "I was talking to him asking questions"}, {"end": "00:45:05", "start": "00:45:00", "text": "like oh what happened this and that and"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:45:02", "text": "it turns out it was all over text and"}, {"end": "00:45:10", "start": "00:45:05", "text": "the reasons are just like it's it's a"}, {"end": "00:45:14", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "pretty rough situation but through that"}, {"end": "00:45:17", "start": "00:45:10", "text": "he was saying that he was putting"}, {"end": "00:45:21", "start": "00:45:14", "text": "the responses from the opposing party"}, {"end": "00:45:24", "start": "00:45:17", "text": "into chat GPT and then telling chat GPT,"}, {"end": "00:45:28", "start": "00:45:21", "text": "don't get my back. I just want to know"}, {"end": "00:45:31", "start": "00:45:24", "text": "the truth. Which is a 2025 version of a"}, {"end": "00:45:34", "start": "00:45:28", "text": "prayer. Like, I'm confused. Show me the"}, {"end": "00:45:37", "start": "00:45:31", "text": "light. Oh, oh, powerful one. Dang. And"}, {"end": "00:45:43", "start": "00:45:34", "text": "it he just went on this interesting"}, {"end": "00:45:45", "start": "00:45:37", "text": "conversation about how, you know,"}, {"end": "00:45:47", "start": "00:45:43", "text": "chat GPT through me. he was able to"}, {"end": "00:45:49", "start": "00:45:45", "text": "navigate the situation"}, {"end": "00:45:52", "start": "00:45:47", "text": "and and he didn't think of it the way"}, {"end": "00:45:54", "start": "00:45:49", "text": "I'm explaining it. He it's like I ask it"}, {"end": "00:45:55", "start": "00:45:52", "text": "how to fix the toilet. I ask it what I"}, {"end": "00:45:57", "start": "00:45:54", "text": "can make for dinner. Why wouldn't I ask"}, {"end": "00:46:00", "start": "00:45:55", "text": "it like am I crazy? Is this person"}, {"end": "00:46:03", "start": "00:45:57", "text": "gaslighting me? Are they rude? But to"}, {"end": "00:46:05", "start": "00:46:00", "text": "see like what we've been doing for"}, {"end": "00:46:07", "start": "00:46:03", "text": "thousands of years happen and then"}, {"end": "00:46:09", "start": "00:46:05", "text": "actually hear back. Like how many people"}, {"end": "00:46:11", "start": "00:46:07", "text": "pray and hear nothing? Yeah. And this"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:09", "text": "you could just ask it your wildest"}, {"end": "00:46:15", "start": "00:46:11", "text": "dreams and it will respond to you within"}, {"end": "00:46:17", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "seconds. I've never thought of it that"}, {"end": "00:46:19", "start": "00:46:15", "text": "way and that's makes it way scarier. It"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:17", "text": "does, man."}, {"end": "00:46:23", "start": "00:46:19", "text": "I mean, people are going to use it as a"}, {"end": "00:46:25", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "therapist, use it as our dad, use it as"}, {"end": "00:46:27", "start": "00:46:23", "text": "to your point, I mean, some of the stuff"}, {"end": "00:46:29", "start": "00:46:25", "text": "that's happening in the uh in the I"}, {"end": "00:46:32", "start": "00:46:27", "text": "mean, I know this podcast is a specific"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:29", "text": "bar, but the things that men and women"}, {"end": "00:46:38", "start": "00:46:32", "text": "are supposed to do happening in the"}, {"end": "00:46:40", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "robot space is bananas. And we have a"}, {"end": "00:46:43", "start": "00:46:38", "text": "friend uh well Chris our keyword player"}, {"end": "00:46:47", "start": "00:46:40", "text": "has a friend um out in San Francisco who"}, {"end": "00:46:50", "start": "00:46:43", "text": "does AI and 360 stuff like that. Like he"}, {"end": "00:46:51", "start": "00:46:47", "text": "works at a company. Oh he's he's a super"}, {"end": "00:46:53", "start": "00:46:50", "text": "cool dude but he's like it's my job I"}, {"end": "00:46:58", "start": "00:46:51", "text": "have to watch every piece of content."}, {"end": "00:47:01", "start": "00:46:53", "text": "He's like bro it's going to be crazy. Oh"}, {"end": "00:47:03", "start": "00:46:58", "text": "man. A rough job. Yeah. No thanks. And"}, {"end": "00:47:05", "start": "00:47:01", "text": "it's like, and at a certain point it's"}, {"end": "00:47:08", "start": "00:47:03", "text": "like, why do I need a human woman when I"}, {"end": "00:47:10", "start": "00:47:05", "text": "can just have what I want from a woman"}, {"end": "00:47:11", "start": "00:47:08", "text": "and not any of the push back? And why do"}, {"end": "00:47:13", "start": "00:47:10", "text": "you need a man when you can just have"}, {"end": "00:47:15", "start": "00:47:11", "text": "the best parts of a man and none of the"}, {"end": "00:47:17", "start": "00:47:13", "text": "push back? And like the beauty of two"}, {"end": "00:47:19", "start": "00:47:15", "text": "people surrendering themselves to become"}, {"end": "00:47:21", "start": "00:47:17", "text": "one thing and sharpening each other and"}, {"end": "00:47:23", "start": "00:47:19", "text": "also dinging each other up along the way"}, {"end": "00:47:26", "start": "00:47:21", "text": "is going to be gone. And you're going to"}, {"end": "00:47:29", "start": "00:47:23", "text": "have these people that, you know,"}, {"end": "00:47:32", "start": "00:47:26", "text": "haven't consummated with an actual human"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:29", "text": "ever very soon, which is crazy. That's"}, {"end": "00:47:34", "start": "00:47:32", "text": "where we get the transhuman probably."}, {"end": "00:47:36", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "Yeah. And we just think about the"}, {"end": "00:47:39", "start": "00:47:34", "text": "generational ripple effect that's that's"}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:36", "text": "how you get to trans you get your robot"}, {"end": "00:47:43", "start": "00:47:39", "text": "pregnant and it's like half human, half"}, {"end": "00:47:46", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "robot and you're asking AI, what do I"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:43", "text": "do? Yeah. No, but literally it's it's"}, {"end": "00:47:50", "start": "00:47:46", "text": "the baby. It's fun to talk about cuz you"}, {"end": "00:47:52", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "kind of have to laugh cuz if you'll cry"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:50", "text": "cuz we're all going to die. We're all"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:52", "text": "We're all going to die. That's the"}, {"end": "00:47:57", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "motto. Um but then then when you can"}, {"end": "00:47:59", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "upload your consciousness now that's"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:47:57", "text": "heaven. You can live eternally as"}, {"end": "00:48:04", "start": "00:47:59", "text": "promised by the good book."}, {"end": "00:48:06", "start": "00:48:03", "text": "Having a heart attack throw up. But it"}, {"end": "00:48:08", "start": "00:48:04", "text": "but it's literally it's going to"}, {"end": "00:48:12", "start": "00:48:06", "text": "fracture so much. Like I have a theory."}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:08", "text": "I think you're we're in the next it"}, {"end": "00:48:17", "start": "00:48:12", "text": "could be five. Let's call it 20 to 30. I"}, {"end": "00:48:19", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "think there's going to be a massive"}, {"end": "00:48:22", "start": "00:48:17", "text": "unplug and then you're going to have the"}, {"end": "00:48:24", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "divide. Transhuman versus purist humans."}, {"end": "00:48:26", "start": "00:48:22", "text": "Kind of like what we have with like what"}, {"end": "00:48:28", "start": "00:48:24", "text": "we have with Quakers. Yeah. Yeah. Like"}, {"end": "00:48:29", "start": "00:48:26", "text": "they're like no electricity. We do"}, {"end": "00:48:31", "start": "00:48:28", "text": "everything by hand. And they're like we"}, {"end": "00:48:33", "start": "00:48:29", "text": "live a wholesome like how how we're"}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:31", "text": "supposed to be, man. And then all you"}, {"end": "00:48:36", "start": "00:48:33", "text": "guys plugged in with your iPads ruin"}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "your kids and all that. And it's like"}, {"end": "00:48:40", "start": "00:48:36", "text": "that is a valid argument. Yeah. And then"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "you know rum spring. I mean you get to"}, {"end": "00:48:44", "start": "00:48:40", "text": "go taste what we do all day and most of"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "them come back. They're like, \"That's"}, {"end": "00:48:47", "start": "00:48:44", "text": "for the birds.\" Oh, yeah. They They'll"}, {"end": "00:48:49", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "offer memberships. They'll be like,"}, {"end": "00:48:51", "start": "00:48:47", "text": "\"Hey, 30-day free trial. Try it. See if"}, {"end": "00:48:52", "start": "00:48:49", "text": "you like it. If you don't Yeah. And I"}, {"end": "00:48:54", "start": "00:48:51", "text": "mean, yeah, it's going to convince so"}, {"end": "00:48:56", "start": "00:48:52", "text": "many people.\" So, you're going to have"}, {"end": "00:48:57", "start": "00:48:54", "text": "the superhumans. You're going to have"}, {"end": "00:49:00", "start": "00:48:56", "text": "the purest humans. And I think what's"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:57", "text": "going to happen is obviously when you're"}, {"end": "00:49:03", "start": "00:49:00", "text": "smarter than me because you can do math"}, {"end": "00:49:05", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "in your head instantly because you have"}, {"end": "00:49:08", "start": "00:49:03", "text": "AI in your head and I'm just a"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:05", "text": "homeschooled kid from Tampa. The"}, {"end": "00:49:11", "start": "00:49:08", "text": "economic disparity is going to be there"}, {"end": "00:49:14", "start": "00:49:09", "text": "big time. I think we're going to see"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:11", "text": "local almost like axe level communities"}, {"end": "00:49:20", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "pop up, protectionist communities that"}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:17", "text": "like and I think there's going to be a"}, {"end": "00:49:25", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "bit of a rise in cults. Interesting. And"}, {"end": "00:49:27", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "I love cults. Cults are fun. Uh I don't"}, {"end": "00:49:30", "start": "00:49:25", "text": "love them. They damage a lot of people's"}, {"end": "00:49:32", "start": "00:49:27", "text": "lives. I love watching them. Like that's"}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:30", "text": "it's awful. But I think there's going to"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:32", "text": "be these people that lead people, you"}, {"end": "00:49:38", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "know, out of the desert from the robots"}, {"end": "00:49:40", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "and then become a new leader and then,"}, {"end": "00:49:42", "start": "00:49:38", "text": "you know, first 25 minutes of every cult"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:40", "text": "documentary is like, \"What's the"}, {"end": "00:49:45", "start": "00:49:42", "text": "problem? This is freaking awesome.\""}, {"end": "00:49:47", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "Until everyone's, you know, Yeah. My"}, {"end": "00:49:50", "start": "00:49:45", "text": "thing is sharing everything. The trust"}, {"end": "00:49:52", "start": "00:49:47", "text": "level of like kind of like how our"}, {"end": "00:49:54", "start": "00:49:50", "text": "grandparents trust the news and now"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:52", "text": "we're like the news is uh Yeah. It's"}, {"end": "00:49:58", "start": "00:49:54", "text": "like AI is this like I have so many"}, {"end": "00:50:00", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "friends that use it for their work."}, {"end": "00:50:02", "start": "00:49:58", "text": "everything everything that says, \"Okay,"}, {"end": "00:50:05", "start": "00:50:00", "text": "this is the right thing.\""}, {"end": "00:50:08", "start": "00:50:02", "text": "The gap between the people that start"}, {"end": "00:50:10", "start": "00:50:05", "text": "using it and need it to the people that"}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:08", "text": "know how to like even manipulate or"}, {"end": "00:50:15", "start": "00:50:10", "text": "control it or whatever. Like that's like"}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "to me where like the scary like power in"}, {"end": "00:50:21", "start": "00:50:15", "text": "30 years is like some guy can go into J"}, {"end": "00:50:24", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "chat GPT and like or whatever the thing"}, {"end": "00:50:25", "start": "00:50:21", "text": "is at that time manipulating answer."}, {"end": "00:50:27", "start": "00:50:24", "text": "It's been right for everything for this"}, {"end": "00:50:29", "start": "00:50:25", "text": "long. It's got to be right. We just"}, {"end": "00:50:31", "start": "00:50:27", "text": "follow it like off a cliff, you know,"}, {"end": "00:50:33", "start": "00:50:29", "text": "kind of thing. Yeah. And people are"}, {"end": "00:50:35", "start": "00:50:31", "text": "being born into this. And so like it's"}, {"end": "00:50:37", "start": "00:50:33", "text": "we're we're at the very beginning of it."}, {"end": "00:50:38", "start": "00:50:35", "text": "We were all old enough to be like when"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:37", "text": "we the internet came in, laptops,"}, {"end": "00:50:41", "start": "00:50:38", "text": "phones, all this stuff was new to us."}, {"end": "00:50:44", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "It's now every part part of our everyday"}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:41", "text": "society. 30 years from now, the kids"}, {"end": "00:50:47", "start": "00:50:44", "text": "that are born today, you know, the kids"}, {"end": "00:50:48", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "that we have right now, they're going to"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:47", "text": "grow up knowing that this is just part"}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:48", "text": "of normal society. They're not going to"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "know what it's like to deal with"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "situations by yourself that we were"}, {"end": "00:50:58", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "meant and created to do like with other"}, {"end": "00:51:01", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "people. Yeah. Having communication with"}, {"end": "00:51:03", "start": "00:50:58", "text": "other people and having conflict and now"}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:51:01", "text": "there's just like this supply that we're"}, {"end": "00:51:05", "start": "00:51:03", "text": "never going to be able to take back."}, {"end": "00:51:07", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "Yeah. Well, I mean we talked about"}, {"end": "00:51:10", "start": "00:51:05", "text": "there's already a little kids toy that"}, {"end": "00:51:12", "start": "00:51:07", "text": "has chat GBT in it to where this kid can"}, {"end": "00:51:13", "start": "00:51:10", "text": "talk to their plushies. Oh, I've seen"}, {"end": "00:51:15", "start": "00:51:12", "text": "that actually. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I'm"}, {"end": "00:51:17", "start": "00:51:13", "text": "feeling sad. Oh, why are you feeling"}, {"end": "00:51:19", "start": "00:51:15", "text": "sad? Because my mom yelled at me. The"}, {"end": "00:51:21", "start": "00:51:17", "text": "role of the parent. Yeah. It's taking"}, {"end": "00:51:23", "start": "00:51:19", "text": "over the human role and then it will"}, {"end": "00:51:25", "start": "00:51:21", "text": "soon take over the spiritual role. You"}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:23", "text": "got to stop it. Face value. It look it"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:25", "text": "sounds awesome. That's why it's going to"}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "incentivize so many people to want a"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "real god that actually talks bad. What's"}, {"end": "00:51:33", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "the problem with this? I was just going"}, {"end": "00:51:36", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "to say that my son is like he's four and"}, {"end": "00:51:39", "start": "00:51:33", "text": "he loves in the car now asking Siri"}, {"end": "00:51:41", "start": "00:51:36", "text": "anything. Dude, my kids love ass"}, {"end": "00:51:45", "start": "00:51:39", "text": "like a bad parent for your car. My kids"}, {"end": "00:51:46", "start": "00:51:41", "text": "call brother Siri."}, {"end": "00:51:49", "start": "00:51:45", "text": "[Laughter]"}, {"end": "00:51:50", "start": "00:51:46", "text": "Brother Siri. Brother Siri, but think"}, {"end": "00:51:52", "start": "00:51:49", "text": "about get older. Where's What happened"}, {"end": "00:51:54", "start": "00:51:50", "text": "to Brother Siri? I don't know why they"}, {"end": "00:51:55", "start": "00:51:52", "text": "got that. We never told him Brother"}, {"end": "00:51:58", "start": "00:51:54", "text": "Siri. Probably told him to tell him. Oh"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:55", "text": "gosh. Yeah. Have you seen the studies"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:58", "text": "they did with the Roomba? Like they were"}, {"end": "00:52:05", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "they were doing studies with you know"}, {"end": "00:52:07", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "what a Roomba is, the little robot"}, {"end": "00:52:10", "start": "00:52:05", "text": "vacuum. They did studies. I forget"}, {"end": "00:52:13", "start": "00:52:07", "text": "exactly the control group, but like they"}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:10", "text": "were testing a human's ability to become"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:13", "text": "attached to something that has no soul"}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "as if it was a human. And then the more"}, {"end": "00:52:24", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "they called it something cute like"}, {"end": "00:52:27", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "Roomba and Siri, it's just a computer."}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:24", "text": "And then they would kick the Roomba and"}, {"end": "00:52:30", "start": "00:52:27", "text": "the visceral reaction from most of the"}, {"end": "00:52:32", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "people were like, \"You just kicked your"}, {"end": "00:52:34", "start": "00:52:30", "text": "dog.\" Oh my god. Like no, we don't we"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:32", "text": "don't treat Roomba like that. It's doing"}, {"end": "00:52:38", "start": "00:52:34", "text": "its best. Like this attachment we're"}, {"end": "00:52:41", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "going to have to things that aren't real"}, {"end": "00:52:43", "start": "00:52:38", "text": "has already started. But yeah, once you"}, {"end": "00:52:45", "start": "00:52:41", "text": "put it in some fake skin and it looks"}, {"end": "00:52:48", "start": "00:52:43", "text": "good, bro. Yeah, you're not. And it"}, {"end": "00:52:51", "start": "00:52:45", "text": "cares about you and remembers you. Never"}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:48", "text": "forget your birthday. Yep. Show. This is"}, {"end": "00:52:56", "start": "00:52:51", "text": "heavy. Have you seen that show Sunny?"}, {"end": "00:53:00", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "Sunny. Fantastic show. I think that's"}, {"end": "00:53:04", "start": "00:52:56", "text": "what it's called. Uh it's a um I think"}, {"end": "00:53:06", "start": "00:53:00", "text": "Rashidita Jones Silo. Uh no. It's her"}, {"end": "00:53:09", "start": "00:53:04", "text": "and her husband. Her husband's like a"}, {"end": "00:53:10", "start": "00:53:06", "text": "robot maker. Okay. And it's like they"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:09", "text": "live in Japan and they're these like"}, {"end": "00:53:16", "start": "00:53:10", "text": "cute kind of like teletubby personal"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "assistants and they're made for you. So"}, {"end": "00:53:20", "start": "00:53:16", "text": "they they know your they learn your"}, {"end": "00:53:22", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "routines. It's all AI. It's like it's"}, {"end": "00:53:24", "start": "00:53:20", "text": "interesting because every time some big"}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:22", "text": "shift's happening, it takes over all of"}, {"end": "00:53:27", "start": "00:53:24", "text": "the media. If you want to talk about a"}, {"end": "00:53:29", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "conspiracy. Yeah. But it's like aliens"}, {"end": "00:53:31", "start": "00:53:27", "text": "are coming. Let's make a lot of alien"}, {"end": "00:53:33", "start": "00:53:29", "text": "movies. Get everyone used to it. You"}, {"end": "00:53:35", "start": "00:53:31", "text": "know, World War III is coming. Great. we"}, {"end": "00:53:38", "start": "00:53:33", "text": "have civil war, we have world all this"}, {"end": "00:53:40", "start": "00:53:35", "text": "stuff. Like, let's just get used to"}, {"end": "00:53:41", "start": "00:53:38", "text": "bombs going off so that when Ukraine and"}, {"end": "00:53:43", "start": "00:53:40", "text": "Gaza actually happen, you're like,"}, {"end": "00:53:45", "start": "00:53:41", "text": "what's the big deal? You know, and it's"}, {"end": "00:53:48", "start": "00:53:43", "text": "like that's what's going to happen with"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:45", "text": "AI. I think by the time our kids, our"}, {"end": "00:53:53", "start": "00:53:48", "text": "kids will be the losers"}, {"end": "00:53:56", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "without tattoos when having tattoos made"}, {"end": "00:53:57", "start": "00:53:53", "text": "you like the punk anti-culture. Now,"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:56", "text": "it's everyone has tattoos. It's just"}, {"end": "00:54:01", "start": "00:53:57", "text": "normal. So when if you're a regular"}, {"end": "00:54:02", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "human, you're going to be the one guy in"}, {"end": "00:54:04", "start": "00:54:01", "text": "the punk rock band without tattoos."}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:54:02", "text": "You're the weirdo now. Yeah. Which is"}, {"end": "00:54:07", "start": "00:54:04", "text": "going to be weird because you're going"}, {"end": "00:54:10", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "to see it flip so quick. Yeah. As soon"}, {"end": "00:54:13", "start": "00:54:07", "text": "as they can just monetize it in a way"}, {"end": "00:54:14", "start": "00:54:10", "text": "that allows it to scale to everyone. Um"}, {"end": "00:54:16", "start": "00:54:13", "text": "and then they'll probably try to"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:14", "text": "convince a government like a UBI. They"}, {"end": "00:54:19", "start": "00:54:16", "text": "we need to at least give them this chip"}, {"end": "00:54:21", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "so they have a chance. So you'll get"}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:19", "text": "your like government cheese chip and"}, {"end": "00:54:24", "start": "00:54:21", "text": "then for the rich people you can get all"}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "the upgrades and the Well, I mean it"}, {"end": "00:54:27", "start": "00:54:24", "text": "kind of goes cyber golf swing and"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "whatever you want, you know? Well, it's"}, {"end": "00:54:32", "start": "00:54:27", "text": "like I they've used this so much like"}, {"end": "00:54:34", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "these pastors and stuff like end times,"}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:32", "text": "all that stuff, but like in Revelation,"}, {"end": "00:54:38", "start": "00:54:34", "text": "it does talk about like the mark of the"}, {"end": "00:54:39", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "beast, right? Yeah. And that's like uh"}, {"end": "00:54:43", "start": "00:54:38", "text": "it's either put in the forehead or the"}, {"end": "00:54:45", "start": "00:54:39", "text": "right hand and you can't buy or sell"}, {"end": "00:54:47", "start": "00:54:43", "text": "without it. And it it said the rich,"}, {"end": "00:54:50", "start": "00:54:45", "text": "poor, slave, and free will all have to"}, {"end": "00:54:52", "start": "00:54:47", "text": "have it. And if you don't have it, you"}, {"end": "00:54:55", "start": "00:54:50", "text": "basically can't function in society."}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:52", "text": "Yeah. And it's like, well, this kind of"}, {"end": "00:54:59", "start": "00:54:55", "text": "sounds like this. We've always we've"}, {"end": "00:55:01", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "always talked about like how is it that"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:59", "text": "so many people who like we now look at"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:01", "text": "the populace who professes faith like"}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "how could so many people like of the"}, {"end": "00:55:10", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "evangelical world be deceived but if"}, {"end": "00:55:11", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "transhumanism or something like that"}, {"end": "00:55:14", "start": "00:55:10", "text": "like where the autonomy in your own head"}, {"end": "00:55:16", "start": "00:55:11", "text": "is like given over to something that"}, {"end": "00:55:17", "start": "00:55:14", "text": "makes you more efficient. It's like what"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:16", "text": "if that's what evangelism looks like in"}, {"end": "00:55:22", "start": "00:55:17", "text": "the next 20 years is you're trying to"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "like overcome a chip in somebody's head."}, {"end": "00:55:27", "start": "00:55:22", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. severance. Like they're"}, {"end": "00:55:29", "start": "00:55:24", "text": "already they're already conditioning us"}, {"end": "00:55:31", "start": "00:55:27", "text": "for whatever is coming next. Yeah, I"}, {"end": "00:55:33", "start": "00:55:29", "text": "hate this. That is great. This is crazy."}, {"end": "00:55:35", "start": "00:55:31", "text": "Speaking of AI taking over our brains,"}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:33", "text": "we got an A. Don't go anywhere."}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:55:47", "start": "00:55:42", "text": "Joshy, pick up."}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:46", "text": "Hey. Hey. Are you in the middle of"}, {"end": "00:55:52", "start": "00:55:47", "text": "something right now? Just wrestling. Oh,"}, {"end": "00:55:53", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "you're just wrestling. Okay. Um, we had"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:52", "text": "we were thinking about the ad and we"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:53", "text": "didn't really know what to talk about"}, {"end": "00:55:58", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "with the ad. So, I was curious like what"}, {"end": "00:55:59", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "do you want me to talk about for the ad?"}, {"end": "00:56:01", "start": "00:55:58", "text": "So, we could film we could film it."}, {"end": "00:56:02", "start": "00:55:59", "text": "Yeah. So, we could film it later. We"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:56:01", "text": "were supposed to film that, weren't we?"}, {"end": "00:56:07", "start": "00:56:02", "text": "Yeah. What we What do you want to talk"}, {"end": "00:56:09", "start": "00:56:03", "text": "about? Let's do the uh the live show."}, {"end": "00:56:10", "start": "00:56:07", "text": "Oh, live show that's in October. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:09", "text": "The one that's in that we're going to"}, {"end": "00:56:14", "start": "00:56:10", "text": "Jacksonville, Tampa, and Orlando. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:56:16", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "The Oh, yeah. So, you're talking about"}, {"end": "00:56:18", "start": "00:56:14", "text": "the Florida tour to where we're taking"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:16", "text": "Ninjas of Butterflies and Bible is Funny"}, {"end": "00:56:22", "start": "00:56:18", "text": "with Anthony Russo on the road. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "Yes. Exactly. And you could just do"}, {"end": "00:56:25", "start": "00:56:22", "text": "something like that. Okay. Yeah. So like"}, {"end": "00:56:29", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "we could like say like Jacksonville on"}, {"end": "00:56:31", "start": "00:56:25", "text": "October 2nd, Tampa on October 9th, and"}, {"end": "00:56:33", "start": "00:56:29", "text": "Orlando on October 16th. October 16th."}, {"end": "00:56:34", "start": "00:56:31", "text": "Exactly. Okay. So we get it. So then we"}, {"end": "00:56:36", "start": "00:56:33", "text": "could maybe like add we can add like"}, {"end": "00:56:39", "start": "00:56:34", "text": "maybe just like a little sound effect"}, {"end": "00:56:40", "start": "00:56:36", "text": "like like that."}, {"end": "00:56:42", "start": "00:56:39", "text": "Okay. Well, if we don't have time to"}, {"end": "00:56:44", "start": "00:56:40", "text": "film it, we'll uh we'll think of"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:42", "text": "something else. Okay. I hope you I I"}, {"end": "00:56:46", "start": "00:56:44", "text": "really hope you guys can film it,"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "though. Yeah. But if we can't, it's not"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:46", "text": "if we can't, it's not the end of the"}, {"end": "00:56:51", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "world, though. I know, but a lot a lot"}, {"end": "00:56:52", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "is writing on this. Okay. Everything"}, {"end": "00:56:55", "start": "00:56:51", "text": "actually. Well, I mean, it's Florida"}, {"end": "00:56:58", "start": "00:56:52", "text": "to.com, right? Yep. Well, then if they"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:55", "text": "don't buy tickets, then"}, {"end": "00:57:02", "start": "00:56:58", "text": "you know what happens. Yep. Yep."}, {"end": "00:57:04", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "Armageddon."}, {"end": "00:57:06", "start": "00:57:02", "text": "Armageddon."}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:04", "text": "All right. Love you. See you later. Love"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:06", "text": "you. Bye. Tell us today."}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:11", "text": "We're definitely not filming that."}, {"end": "00:57:22", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:57:26", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "Oh, magic mind. I'd love one. Oh, yeah."}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:22", "text": "God says, speaking of taking over your"}, {"end": "00:57:30", "start": "00:57:26", "text": "sponsored by these guys. We sure are."}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "And this is our ad right now. Oh, shoot."}, {"end": "00:57:34", "start": "00:57:30", "text": "Hey guys, thanks Magic Mind for sending"}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "us some stuff. They got some new cool"}, {"end": "00:57:38", "start": "00:57:34", "text": "stuff we've talked about before, but"}, {"end": "00:57:41", "start": "00:57:36", "text": "they got a new Magic Mind free that's"}, {"end": "00:57:43", "start": "00:57:38", "text": "caffeine free. Magic Mind Max that has a"}, {"end": "00:57:45", "start": "00:57:41", "text": "lot of caffeine in it, but a good"}, {"end": "00:57:46", "start": "00:57:43", "text": "amount. I just took one. and the"}, {"end": "00:57:49", "start": "00:57:45", "text": "original. I might have just given you"}, {"end": "00:57:51", "start": "00:57:46", "text": "guys the free ones. The OG. Dang. Yo,"}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:49", "text": "give me that Max, dude. Here you go. We"}, {"end": "00:57:55", "start": "00:57:51", "text": "love Magic Mind up in this blog."}, {"end": "00:57:57", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "Absolutely. They're super. They actually"}, {"end": "00:57:59", "start": "00:57:55", "text": "just sent me a couple boxes as well, and"}, {"end": "00:58:01", "start": "00:57:57", "text": "they're they have a sleep one as well. I"}, {"end": "00:58:04", "start": "00:57:59", "text": "did the sleep one. It's amazing. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:58:05", "start": "00:58:01", "text": "Sharper mind, lower stress, calm energy."}, {"end": "00:58:08", "start": "00:58:04", "text": "They're the best. Yeah. Go to"}, {"end": "00:58:10", "start": "00:58:05", "text": "magicmind.com/ninjas."}, {"end": "00:58:15", "start": "00:58:08", "text": "Use the code ninjas,"}, {"end": "00:58:18", "start": "00:58:10", "text": "dude. 20 20 ninja ninjas 20 ninjas ninja"}, {"end": "00:58:21", "start": "00:58:15", "text": "20 ninja 20 to get a significant"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:18", "text": "discount. The S is a two zero behind it."}, {"end": "00:58:26", "start": "00:58:21", "text": "Or scan this QR code. 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When"}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:38", "text": "you said they have one for sleep, too, I"}, {"end": "00:58:47", "start": "00:58:41", "text": "immediately looked down at the two that"}, {"end": "00:58:49", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "I just You just dosed us."}, {"end": "00:58:50", "start": "00:58:47", "text": "The most wholesome Ari Shafir. Yeah, for"}, {"end": "00:58:53", "start": "00:58:49", "text": "real. Their branding is dope, though,"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:50", "text": "cuz I mean like they color coordinate"}, {"end": "00:58:58", "start": "00:58:53", "text": "everything. Like the sleep is like"}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "purple. Yeah, it's perfect. Max is like"}, {"end": "00:59:04", "start": "00:58:58", "text": "uh death green. Yeah. Uh don't say"}, {"end": "00:59:08", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "death. No, like metal death. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:59:09", "start": "00:59:04", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Um, I'm left-handed. I I"}, {"end": "00:59:12", "start": "00:59:08", "text": "can't use my real hand because of this."}, {"end": "00:59:14", "start": "00:59:09", "text": "Sorry, I just bombed too over there. I"}, {"end": "00:59:16", "start": "00:59:12", "text": "don't believe you. Good stuff. Good"}, {"end": "00:59:18", "start": "00:59:14", "text": "stuff. Yep. Did you hear Ari Shapiro"}, {"end": "00:59:20", "start": "00:59:16", "text": "come out and say he's like listen um"}, {"end": "00:59:22", "start": "00:59:18", "text": "because they never released that podcast"}, {"end": "00:59:24", "start": "00:59:20", "text": "that him and Bert did uh when he"}, {"end": "00:59:26", "start": "00:59:22", "text": "accidentally I mean he purposely doed"}, {"end": "00:59:27", "start": "00:59:24", "text": "him on Molly and stuff and so he came"}, {"end": "00:59:29", "start": "00:59:26", "text": "out later years this is years later now"}, {"end": "00:59:31", "start": "00:59:27", "text": "he's saying now he's like actually I"}, {"end": "00:59:33", "start": "00:59:29", "text": "just made that up. It was just a story"}, {"end": "00:59:35", "start": "00:59:31", "text": "that we made up so it went viral and I'm"}, {"end": "00:59:37", "start": "00:59:33", "text": "pretty sure he's doing it just so Bert"}, {"end": "00:59:40", "start": "00:59:35", "text": "releases the pod to prove it to everyone"}, {"end": "00:59:43", "start": "00:59:37", "text": "because he's refusing to uh drop it. It"}, {"end": "00:59:46", "start": "00:59:40", "text": "for sure has Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:59:49", "start": "00:59:43", "text": "That's a very Trump. That's some uh"}, {"end": "00:59:49", "start": "00:59:46", "text": "Yeah."}, {"end": "00:59:53", "start": "00:59:49", "text": "Ari and Bird are just Trump and Elon for"}, {"end": "00:59:57", "start": "00:59:51", "text": "real just stirring it up. Dude, I'm"}, {"end": "01:00:00", "start": "00:59:53", "text": "telling you. And the best was Yay Bros."}, {"end": "01:00:04", "start": "00:59:57", "text": "Who just bros?"}, {"end": "01:00:06", "start": "01:00:00", "text": "Oh man. So, hopping from AI, let's talk"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:04", "text": "about aliens. Oh, let's talk about it."}, {"end": "01:00:11", "start": "01:00:06", "text": "What do you think? What do you think?"}, {"end": "01:00:14", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "You guys believe in aliens? I I believe"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:11", "text": "that they uh"}, {"end": "01:00:19", "start": "01:00:14", "text": "Go ahead. They should exist."}, {"end": "01:00:21", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "Mathematically speaking, there's a"}, {"end": "01:00:23", "start": "01:00:19", "text": "higher chance that aliens exist than the"}, {"end": "01:00:26", "start": "01:00:21", "text": "10% chance that four billion people will"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:23", "text": "be dead in 10 years or whatever it is."}, {"end": "01:00:30", "start": "01:00:26", "text": "Um, yeah, there's no reason for them not"}, {"end": "01:00:32", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "to. Yeah. So, you're saying"}, {"end": "01:00:34", "start": "01:00:30", "text": "statistically I don't think every drone"}, {"end": "01:00:37", "start": "01:00:32", "text": "you see over New Jersey is an alien,"}, {"end": "01:00:39", "start": "01:00:34", "text": "right? Uh, I'd like to believe though."}, {"end": "01:00:41", "start": "01:00:37", "text": "Yeah. That they all are. I just want to"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:39", "text": "see one before I die. Same. Why have you"}, {"end": "01:00:45", "start": "01:00:41", "text": "seen the uh the Nazca or Nazca? Nazcin."}, {"end": "01:00:49", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "What about Nazca mummies? I was going to"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:45", "text": "say define alien to me like higher"}, {"end": "01:00:53", "start": "01:00:49", "text": "intelligence or like someone not from"}, {"end": "01:00:57", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "our country man took our jobs. like a"}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:53", "text": "bibbo ble kind of uh I mean I definitely"}, {"end": "01:01:04", "start": "01:00:57", "text": "think it's anything's possible. I I have"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "a hard time with the uh standard alien"}, {"end": "01:01:12", "start": "01:01:04", "text": "belief. Yeah, I think truthfully that we"}, {"end": "01:01:14", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "know absolutely nothing and all these"}, {"end": "01:01:17", "start": "01:01:12", "text": "speculations of what we think aliens"}, {"end": "01:01:21", "start": "01:01:14", "text": "are. I think it's probably"}, {"end": "01:01:25", "start": "01:01:17", "text": "01% correct. You know, we could ask God."}, {"end": "01:01:27", "start": "01:01:21", "text": "We could don't call it that"}, {"end": "01:01:29", "start": "01:01:25", "text": "lower case. I know, but I have to"}, {"end": "01:01:31", "start": "01:01:27", "text": "capture say the greatest alien. The"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:29", "text": "voices are really are actually scarier"}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:31", "text": "on chat GBT now cuz they're getting more"}, {"end": "01:01:37", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "humanlike. It used to sound like a"}, {"end": "01:01:39", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "robot, but now it's like the inflection."}, {"end": "01:01:40", "start": "01:01:37", "text": "It's like silly. If you ask a silly"}, {"end": "01:01:42", "start": "01:01:39", "text": "question, it's like it literally like"}, {"end": "01:01:45", "start": "01:01:40", "text": "has a little humor in the voice. Like"}, {"end": "01:01:48", "start": "01:01:42", "text": "it's weird how like just the VO is that"}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:45", "text": "the new the new thing? Yeah, VO3. That"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:48", "text": "thing's wild. The talking AI. Yeah, but"}, {"end": "01:01:56", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "it's terrible. It's so scary because"}, {"end": "01:01:57", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "like you can kind of if you have a good"}, {"end": "01:01:59", "start": "01:01:56", "text": "eye, you'll be like, \"Okay, yeah, it's"}, {"end": "01:02:02", "start": "01:01:57", "text": "AI.\" You have a good eye, you're aware"}, {"end": "01:02:04", "start": "01:01:59", "text": "anyone of the next or the the boomers"}, {"end": "01:02:06", "start": "01:02:02", "text": "are toast. That's what I'm saying, too."}, {"end": "01:02:08", "start": "01:02:04", "text": "My grandma's already like picking up"}, {"end": "01:02:10", "start": "01:02:06", "text": "phone calls about her tolls and she's"}, {"end": "01:02:12", "start": "01:02:08", "text": "not driving around. Oh, yeah. So, I'm"}, {"end": "01:02:13", "start": "01:02:10", "text": "like, yeah, I got a clip sent to me and"}, {"end": "01:02:16", "start": "01:02:12", "text": "it was like news reporters and stuff and"}, {"end": "01:02:18", "start": "01:02:13", "text": "they're like, \"This was crazy.\" And it"}, {"end": "01:02:20", "start": "01:02:16", "text": "doesn't look fake. and then suddenly"}, {"end": "01:02:21", "start": "01:02:18", "text": "something supernatural happens and then"}, {"end": "01:02:23", "start": "01:02:20", "text": "turns around and says, \"Oh, whoops."}, {"end": "01:02:25", "start": "01:02:21", "text": "Never mind. I'm just AI.\" Yeah. And I'm"}, {"end": "01:02:28", "start": "01:02:23", "text": "like, \"No, I think it I think that would"}, {"end": "01:02:30", "start": "01:02:25", "text": "be the way that"}, {"end": "01:02:34", "start": "01:02:28", "text": "you can kill a bunch of people.\" There's"}, {"end": "01:02:35", "start": "01:02:30", "text": "actually a movie on um Max with Steve"}, {"end": "01:02:38", "start": "01:02:34", "text": "Carell"}, {"end": "01:02:41", "start": "01:02:35", "text": "and Jason Jason Schwarzman. It just came"}, {"end": "01:02:42", "start": "01:02:38", "text": "out, right? Yeah. Dude,"}, {"end": "01:02:45", "start": "01:02:41", "text": "it's this. Okay, cool. I can't wait to"}, {"end": "01:02:48", "start": "01:02:42", "text": "watch it. tech billionaire creates this"}, {"end": "01:02:51", "start": "01:02:45", "text": "absurdly real AI that people can now"}, {"end": "01:02:53", "start": "01:02:48", "text": "post like, you know, they kidnapped five"}, {"end": "01:02:56", "start": "01:02:51", "text": "of our kids and whatever. Yeah. And I'm"}, {"end": "01:02:58", "start": "01:02:53", "text": "halfway through it. But there's outbreak"}, {"end": "01:03:01", "start": "01:02:56", "text": "and riots and wars happening all because"}, {"end": "01:03:03", "start": "01:02:58", "text": "of this AI engine and the guy's like,"}, {"end": "01:03:06", "start": "01:03:01", "text": "\"Cool.\" So that would be the way kill"}, {"end": "01:03:08", "start": "01:03:03", "text": "it. Yeah. Alien technology. Yeah. Alien"}, {"end": "01:03:10", "start": "01:03:06", "text": "technology. The best part about being"}, {"end": "01:03:12", "start": "01:03:08", "text": "you guys is everything's a conspiracy"}, {"end": "01:03:15", "start": "01:03:10", "text": "now. I have friends that think Trump had"}, {"end": "01:03:19", "start": "01:03:12", "text": "a ketchup packet in his pocket and never"}, {"end": "01:03:21", "start": "01:03:15", "text": "got shot. I have friends, dude. Like the"}, {"end": "01:03:23", "start": "01:03:19", "text": "they just go so deep. Yeah. Anywhere."}, {"end": "01:03:24", "start": "01:03:21", "text": "You have gay frogs in Germany. You've"}, {"end": "01:03:27", "start": "01:03:23", "text": "got Bohemian Grove. Like that's all the"}, {"end": "01:03:30", "start": "01:03:24", "text": "basics. But now even just a news thing"}, {"end": "01:03:31", "start": "01:03:27", "text": "is propaganda and conspiracy. Totally."}, {"end": "01:03:33", "start": "01:03:30", "text": "Because we just can't trust any of them."}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:31", "text": "Nobody trusts. I mean there is no news."}, {"end": "01:03:39", "start": "01:03:33", "text": "Yeah. Except for AI. Yeah. Exactly. Um,"}, {"end": "01:03:40", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "but have you guys heard of the the Nazca"}, {"end": "01:03:44", "start": "01:03:39", "text": "mummies?"}, {"end": "01:03:48", "start": "01:03:40", "text": "No. Yeah. So, this is in Nazca, Peru."}, {"end": "01:03:50", "start": "01:03:44", "text": "So, more like it's Nazca is known for,"}, {"end": "01:03:53", "start": "01:03:48", "text": "you know, those giant"}, {"end": "01:03:56", "start": "01:03:50", "text": "um drawings that are in the desert. Yes."}, {"end": "01:03:57", "start": "01:03:53", "text": "Like, I got a picture of it. Like these"}, {"end": "01:03:59", "start": "01:03:56", "text": "big things that are like just miles"}, {"end": "01:04:01", "start": "01:03:57", "text": "long. Yep. And you can't tell what they"}, {"end": "01:04:04", "start": "01:03:59", "text": "are unless you're in the air. Yeah. Let"}, {"end": "01:04:06", "start": "01:04:01", "text": "me see. But they exist. They think they"}, {"end": "01:04:09", "start": "01:04:04", "text": "found the people that made that. Well,"}, {"end": "01:04:10", "start": "01:04:06", "text": "the things that made that in 2015"}, {"end": "01:04:12", "start": "01:04:09", "text": "they found they said it was in a cave."}, {"end": "01:04:14", "start": "01:04:10", "text": "Others like Tim Alberino says that it"}, {"end": "01:04:18", "start": "01:04:12", "text": "wasn't in a cave, but they found these"}, {"end": "01:04:22", "start": "01:04:14", "text": "mummies of they're calling them the Naza"}, {"end": "01:04:24", "start": "01:04:18", "text": "mummies. And they found 200 mm remains."}, {"end": "01:04:28", "start": "01:04:22", "text": "I think a couple dozen of which were"}, {"end": "01:04:30", "start": "01:04:24", "text": "fully intact, but they're these humanoid"}, {"end": "01:04:33", "start": "01:04:28", "text": "looking creatures"}, {"end": "01:04:35", "start": "01:04:30", "text": "that have three fingers on each hand and"}, {"end": "01:04:39", "start": "01:04:33", "text": "three toes on each hand. I don't know if"}, {"end": "01:04:42", "start": "01:04:35", "text": "you can see that. Yeah. Huh. So, you see"}, {"end": "01:04:45", "start": "01:04:39", "text": "that? Okay. Um,"}, {"end": "01:04:48", "start": "01:04:42", "text": "but it's just super weird. And they've"}, {"end": "01:04:50", "start": "01:04:45", "text": "done a ton of studies on these things."}, {"end": "01:04:52", "start": "01:04:48", "text": "And apparently they did like a DNA"}, {"end": "01:04:55", "start": "01:04:50", "text": "sampling from one of its or a couple of"}, {"end": "01:04:59", "start": "01:04:52", "text": "their flesh or whatever. And 30% of"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:55", "text": "their genetic makeup is um identified as"}, {"end": "01:05:03", "start": "01:04:59", "text": "something on this earth that can be"}, {"end": "01:05:06", "start": "01:05:01", "text": "identified as something. So, the rest is"}, {"end": "01:05:08", "start": "01:05:03", "text": "not. Huh. Or is it the other way around?"}, {"end": "01:05:10", "start": "01:05:06", "text": "Would I say either way? Yeah, they're"}, {"end": "01:05:13", "start": "01:05:08", "text": "hybrid. If you're at 30% hybrid, they're"}, {"end": "01:05:16", "start": "01:05:10", "text": "30% match of known species. So, the rest"}, {"end": "01:05:17", "start": "01:05:13", "text": "of it is they don't know what it is. And"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:16", "text": "this picture is super weird, too. Like"}, {"end": "01:05:23", "start": "01:05:17", "text": "they have fingerprints."}, {"end": "01:05:26", "start": "01:05:20", "text": "I don't if you can see that. Yeah. Super"}, {"end": "01:05:29", "start": "01:05:23", "text": "weird. And like Huh. But then about"}, {"end": "01:05:31", "start": "01:05:26", "text": "their organs. Yeah. So, a lot of these"}, {"end": "01:05:33", "start": "01:05:29", "text": "creatures, they still had their organs"}, {"end": "01:05:35", "start": "01:05:31", "text": "inside of them. So, they did these CT"}, {"end": "01:05:39", "start": "01:05:33", "text": "scans and one of them that they call"}, {"end": "01:05:41", "start": "01:05:35", "text": "Maria, they said it was pregnant, but it"}, {"end": "01:05:44", "start": "01:05:39", "text": "looked like it had like three eggs"}, {"end": "01:05:46", "start": "01:05:41", "text": "inside of it. So, almost like it was"}, {"end": "01:05:48", "start": "01:05:44", "text": "like a reptilian of some sort, which I"}, {"end": "01:05:52", "start": "01:05:46", "text": "don't reptilian. I don't We're getting"}, {"end": "01:05:55", "start": "01:05:48", "text": "into Alex Jones territory. Yep. Um,"}, {"end": "01:05:57", "start": "01:05:52", "text": "but near the cave where they apparently"}, {"end": "01:06:00", "start": "01:05:55", "text": "found these, they found a petetroglyph"}, {"end": "01:06:02", "start": "01:05:57", "text": "of this creature that has three fingers"}, {"end": "01:06:05", "start": "01:06:00", "text": "on each hand. I don't know if you see"}, {"end": "01:06:07", "start": "01:06:02", "text": "that. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. And then a"}, {"end": "01:06:09", "start": "01:06:05", "text": "lot of their art, they talk about the"}, {"end": "01:06:11", "start": "01:06:07", "text": "sky people. And so the theory is that"}, {"end": "01:06:13", "start": "01:06:09", "text": "they made these giant things in the"}, {"end": "01:06:15", "start": "01:06:11", "text": "dirt. Yeah. To talk to to talk to"}, {"end": "01:06:18", "start": "01:06:13", "text": "communicate or even like a landing strip"}, {"end": "01:06:20", "start": "01:06:15", "text": "for these things. Um, but I mean just"}, {"end": "01:06:24", "start": "01:06:18", "text": "countless like this guy, three fingers,"}, {"end": "01:06:25", "start": "01:06:20", "text": "three toes. This is all like in their"}, {"end": "01:06:28", "start": "01:06:24", "text": "part of their history, part of their"}, {"end": "01:06:31", "start": "01:06:25", "text": "culture. There's a uh tribe that's known"}, {"end": "01:06:33", "start": "01:06:28", "text": "for that to this day all human. They"}, {"end": "01:06:35", "start": "01:06:31", "text": "have like either I think it's three toes"}, {"end": "01:06:37", "start": "01:06:33", "text": "or three fingers, but it's a genetic"}, {"end": "01:06:40", "start": "01:06:35", "text": "mutation that due to evolution or"}, {"end": "01:06:42", "start": "01:06:37", "text": "selection or whatever it was like, yeah,"}, {"end": "01:06:44", "start": "01:06:40", "text": "it's rampant and they all have it. like"}, {"end": "01:06:46", "start": "01:06:42", "text": "kids, old people, grandparents,"}, {"end": "01:06:50", "start": "01:06:44", "text": "newborns, like they come out with this"}, {"end": "01:06:51", "start": "01:06:46", "text": "weird deformity um that looks a lot like"}, {"end": "01:06:53", "start": "01:06:50", "text": "that. Maybe it's all in the line, dude."}, {"end": "01:06:54", "start": "01:06:51", "text": "That's the connection. Jeans, dude."}, {"end": "01:06:57", "start": "01:06:53", "text": "Yeah. I think it's either three toes or"}, {"end": "01:06:59", "start": "01:06:54", "text": "three fingers. Weird. I'm so bad at like"}, {"end": "01:07:02", "start": "01:06:57", "text": "consuming information is not my problem."}, {"end": "01:07:04", "start": "01:06:59", "text": "It's retaining it and articulating it. I"}, {"end": "01:07:06", "start": "01:07:02", "text": "don't even know our song names. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:07:07", "start": "01:07:04", "text": "Like,"}, {"end": "01:07:08", "start": "01:07:06", "text": "it's just like, \"Yep, what's your"}, {"end": "01:07:09", "start": "01:07:07", "text": "favorite song by that band?\" And they"}, {"end": "01:07:11", "start": "01:07:08", "text": "think I don't like the band cuz I can't"}, {"end": "01:07:13", "start": "01:07:09", "text": "name a song. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like,"}, {"end": "01:07:14", "start": "01:07:11", "text": "it's the one that So, I'm probably"}, {"end": "01:07:17", "start": "01:07:13", "text": "getting some of this wrong, but yeah,"}, {"end": "01:07:19", "start": "01:07:14", "text": "there's a tribe, a group of people that"}, {"end": "01:07:22", "start": "01:07:17", "text": "are just like that. But is it the um"}, {"end": "01:07:23", "start": "01:07:19", "text": "it's in Africa, right? It's the um I"}, {"end": "01:07:26", "start": "01:07:22", "text": "know exact they talk about the fish head"}, {"end": "01:07:28", "start": "01:07:23", "text": "people, too. I'm talking about uh No,"}, {"end": "01:07:30", "start": "01:07:26", "text": "they have like uh"}, {"end": "01:07:33", "start": "01:07:28", "text": "like like"}, {"end": "01:07:34", "start": "01:07:30", "text": "hands or feet that have like three, but"}, {"end": "01:07:37", "start": "01:07:33", "text": "they're like thicker. It's almost like"}, {"end": "01:07:39", "start": "01:07:34", "text": "if you duct taped things and then put a"}, {"end": "01:07:42", "start": "01:07:37", "text": "mask over it. But it's just how they're"}, {"end": "01:07:44", "start": "01:07:39", "text": "all built. It's really interesting. It's"}, {"end": "01:07:47", "start": "01:07:42", "text": "so strange. But they're saying that uh"}, {"end": "01:07:49", "start": "01:07:44", "text": "they talked a lot about it on um Joe"}, {"end": "01:07:51", "start": "01:07:47", "text": "Rogan with Jesse Michaels who has the"}, {"end": "01:07:53", "start": "01:07:49", "text": "most amazing recall ever. He's insane."}, {"end": "01:07:54", "start": "01:07:51", "text": "He can memorize everything. That's a"}, {"end": "01:07:56", "start": "01:07:53", "text": "fascinating episode. Yeah. And then uh"}, {"end": "01:08:00", "start": "01:07:54", "text": "Tim Alberino and Blurry Creatures also"}, {"end": "01:08:02", "start": "01:07:56", "text": "talked about the Nazca uh mummies, but"}, {"end": "01:08:06", "start": "01:08:00", "text": "it's just it's wild and it like kind of"}, {"end": "01:08:08", "start": "01:08:02", "text": "pushes How do you explain it? Aside from"}, {"end": "01:08:10", "start": "01:08:06", "text": "over half this thing is not earthly."}, {"end": "01:08:12", "start": "01:08:08", "text": "Yeah. And the thing is there's"}, {"end": "01:08:15", "start": "01:08:10", "text": "ufologists archaeologists are looking at"}, {"end": "01:08:17", "start": "01:08:12", "text": "this stuff and they cannot describe like"}, {"end": "01:08:19", "start": "01:08:15", "text": "they can't come up with a reason for it."}, {"end": "01:08:21", "start": "01:08:17", "text": "And so they're saying like if this is"}, {"end": "01:08:24", "start": "01:08:19", "text": "the this is a hoax, it's the greatest"}, {"end": "01:08:25", "start": "01:08:21", "text": "hoax that anyone's ever pulled off"}, {"end": "01:08:27", "start": "01:08:24", "text": "because how do they do this? What"}, {"end": "01:08:29", "start": "01:08:25", "text": "they've built with the organs that are"}, {"end": "01:08:32", "start": "01:08:27", "text": "still intact, it's actual biological"}, {"end": "01:08:34", "start": "01:08:29", "text": "stuff. And so what's the reason for And"}, {"end": "01:08:35", "start": "01:08:32", "text": "I like it's crazy that like just because"}, {"end": "01:08:36", "start": "01:08:34", "text": "we don't understand it, we're not"}, {"end": "01:08:38", "start": "01:08:35", "text": "talking about it. Yeah. How old was the"}, {"end": "01:08:42", "start": "01:08:36", "text": "discovery? How long ago did that happen?"}, {"end": "01:08:44", "start": "01:08:38", "text": "2015. 2015. Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm like,"}, {"end": "01:08:47", "start": "01:08:42", "text": "wait, what? Yeah. And apparently it was"}, {"end": "01:08:49", "start": "01:08:44", "text": "released to the public in 2017. So still"}, {"end": "01:08:50", "start": "01:08:47", "text": "like eight years. Yeah. Yeah. But there"}, {"end": "01:08:53", "start": "01:08:49", "text": "are billionaires there are millionaires"}, {"end": "01:08:55", "start": "01:08:50", "text": "billionaires that are purchasing some of"}, {"end": "01:08:57", "start": "01:08:53", "text": "these mummies. Yeah. They said like"}, {"end": "01:08:58", "start": "01:08:55", "text": "seven figures. Wow. That that like"}, {"end": "01:09:00", "start": "01:08:57", "text": "because there's so many of them, they're"}, {"end": "01:09:01", "start": "01:08:58", "text": "able just to purchase them. And I'm"}, {"end": "01:09:03", "start": "01:09:00", "text": "like, what are they doing with these?"}, {"end": "01:09:06", "start": "01:09:01", "text": "Yeah. my whole is like is it just in the"}, {"end": "01:09:08", "start": "01:09:03", "text": "corner for fun funue or are they"}, {"end": "01:09:10", "start": "01:09:06", "text": "testing? Are they creating some type of"}, {"end": "01:09:12", "start": "01:09:08", "text": "Are they eating it? They're eating it"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:10", "text": "becoming powerful. I'm telling you,"}, {"end": "01:09:15", "start": "01:09:12", "text": "dude. The death of a unicorn, the movie."}, {"end": "01:09:17", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "Have you guys seen that yet? No, I"}, {"end": "01:09:18", "start": "01:09:15", "text": "haven't. I mean, basically, it literally"}, {"end": "01:09:21", "start": "01:09:17", "text": "starts in like the first five minutes."}, {"end": "01:09:23", "start": "01:09:18", "text": "They hit a unicorn and uh it's just this"}, {"end": "01:09:25", "start": "01:09:21", "text": "weird movie. This guy's in a tech"}, {"end": "01:09:28", "start": "01:09:23", "text": "company. they hit a unicorn and they"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:25", "text": "freak out and then the guy uh like gets"}, {"end": "01:09:32", "start": "01:09:28", "text": "pierced by it or something tastes some"}, {"end": "01:09:34", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "of the blood and it heals them. So, it's"}, {"end": "01:09:37", "start": "01:09:32", "text": "like stuff like that like who knows if"}, {"end": "01:09:39", "start": "01:09:34", "text": "there's some type of biological cure to"}, {"end": "01:09:41", "start": "01:09:37", "text": "something or I don't know. It's weird. I"}, {"end": "01:09:43", "start": "01:09:39", "text": "think that stuff's more real than not"}, {"end": "01:09:45", "start": "01:09:41", "text": "real personally. I think so. I really"}, {"end": "01:09:48", "start": "01:09:43", "text": "just want it to be. So, I'm beyond"}, {"end": "01:09:51", "start": "01:09:45", "text": "biased. Yeah. But yeah, aliens and being"}, {"end": "01:09:52", "start": "01:09:48", "text": "visited is cool. I mean, there's too"}, {"end": "01:09:55", "start": "01:09:51", "text": "many things in life that are"}, {"end": "01:09:57", "start": "01:09:52", "text": "unexplainable, you know, and I I guess"}, {"end": "01:10:00", "start": "01:09:55", "text": "if you're a very devout person and like"}, {"end": "01:10:02", "start": "01:09:57", "text": "faith, everything is for a purpose and"}, {"end": "01:10:04", "start": "01:10:00", "text": "there's one singular thing controlling"}, {"end": "01:10:07", "start": "01:10:02", "text": "it all and then I think but that's such"}, {"end": "01:10:09", "start": "01:10:04", "text": "a big umbrella. Yeah. The rest of Yeah."}, {"end": "01:10:11", "start": "01:10:07", "text": "But if you like let's say you believe in"}, {"end": "01:10:13", "start": "01:10:09", "text": "God, like the Christian God, the Western"}, {"end": "01:10:15", "start": "01:10:11", "text": "God, and like you believe the Bible"}, {"end": "01:10:17", "start": "01:10:13", "text": "literally. So it's like in one day God"}, {"end": "01:10:19", "start": "01:10:15", "text": "made like a sand castle and he's like"}, {"end": "01:10:20", "start": "01:10:17", "text": "man and then a guy popped up and then"}, {"end": "01:10:24", "start": "01:10:19", "text": "he's like actually let me hold that rib"}, {"end": "01:10:27", "start": "01:10:20", "text": "woman like something that like"}, {"end": "01:10:29", "start": "01:10:24", "text": "fantasybased if you believe that how can"}, {"end": "01:10:32", "start": "01:10:27", "text": "you not believe that God be like"}, {"end": "01:10:35", "start": "01:10:29", "text": "three-fingered giants like and you know"}, {"end": "01:10:37", "start": "01:10:32", "text": "it's probably not that it's probably"}, {"end": "01:10:38", "start": "01:10:35", "text": "some sort of I mean the Bible is so full"}, {"end": "01:10:41", "start": "01:10:37", "text": "of supernatural stuff so it's like"}, {"end": "01:10:43", "start": "01:10:38", "text": "obviously we have to dis like you know"}, {"end": "01:10:45", "start": "01:10:41", "text": "like we have to hold on to like I"}, {"end": "01:10:47", "start": "01:10:43", "text": "dispend our belief a little like our"}, {"end": "01:10:49", "start": "01:10:45", "text": "just our common human brain what we can"}, {"end": "01:10:50", "start": "01:10:47", "text": "comprehend. Yeah. I mean it talks about"}, {"end": "01:10:53", "start": "01:10:49", "text": "UFOs and then you have like the"}, {"end": "01:10:55", "start": "01:10:50", "text": "Buddhists and Islam and there there's"}, {"end": "01:10:58", "start": "01:10:53", "text": "people floating around on the back of a"}, {"end": "01:11:00", "start": "01:10:55", "text": "turtle. Like every religion has these"}, {"end": "01:11:03", "start": "01:10:58", "text": "like absurd"}, {"end": "01:11:07", "start": "01:11:00", "text": "ideas. Yeah. That massive amounts of"}, {"end": "01:11:08", "start": "01:11:03", "text": "people buy wholesale and"}, {"end": "01:11:10", "start": "01:11:07", "text": "then they're like I don't know how this"}, {"end": "01:11:12", "start": "01:11:08", "text": "got here. It's like look at all the"}, {"end": "01:11:14", "start": "01:11:10", "text": "crazy stuff we all believe anyway. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:11:16", "start": "01:11:12", "text": "You know, I mean, that's what we talk a"}, {"end": "01:11:17", "start": "01:11:14", "text": "lot on this podcast because we all are"}, {"end": "01:11:19", "start": "01:11:16", "text": "of the three of us are Christian Bible"}, {"end": "01:11:22", "start": "01:11:17", "text": "believing, but it's like the scripture"}, {"end": "01:11:24", "start": "01:11:19", "text": "was written for the purpose of the"}, {"end": "01:11:26", "start": "01:11:22", "text": "salvation of humanity, right? And it's"}, {"end": "01:11:28", "start": "01:11:24", "text": "not going to list everything in it, but"}, {"end": "01:11:30", "start": "01:11:26", "text": "it does still list some crazy stuff,"}, {"end": "01:11:32", "start": "01:11:28", "text": "some wild stuff like the Nephilim giants"}, {"end": "01:11:35", "start": "01:11:30", "text": "and the vision of Ezekiel, the wheel"}, {"end": "01:11:37", "start": "01:11:32", "text": "within the wheel, like some crazy stuff."}, {"end": "01:11:40", "start": "01:11:35", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And to your point, like the"}, {"end": "01:11:43", "start": "01:11:37", "text": "most like straightlaced Southern Baptist"}, {"end": "01:11:45", "start": "01:11:40", "text": "back row, hands in pockets type church,"}, {"end": "01:11:47", "start": "01:11:43", "text": "like all those people believe they're"}, {"end": "01:11:49", "start": "01:11:45", "text": "possessed by a Holy Spirit. Like it's"}, {"end": "01:11:51", "start": "01:11:47", "text": "literally we walk around possessed."}, {"end": "01:11:54", "start": "01:11:49", "text": "Yeah. Like that's how the scripture they"}, {"end": "01:11:55", "start": "01:11:51", "text": "would exed. It means that. Yeah. But"}, {"end": "01:11:57", "start": "01:11:54", "text": "like my thing with the aliens, dude, I"}, {"end": "01:11:58", "start": "01:11:55", "text": "was looking that up trying to like"}, {"end": "01:12:00", "start": "01:11:57", "text": "what's the controversy? Like why hasn't"}, {"end": "01:12:02", "start": "01:11:58", "text": "this been accepted? And the thing that"}, {"end": "01:12:04", "start": "01:12:00", "text": "they're using to quote disprove it is"}, {"end": "01:12:05", "start": "01:12:02", "text": "they're like, \"Well, they were looters"}, {"end": "01:12:07", "start": "01:12:04", "text": "and they won't say exactly where it's"}, {"end": "01:12:09", "start": "01:12:05", "text": "from.\" And my whole thing is like, \"Why"}, {"end": "01:12:11", "start": "01:12:07", "text": "does that matter?\" Like, if you're"}, {"end": "01:12:13", "start": "01:12:09", "text": "presenting me like biological matter,"}, {"end": "01:12:14", "start": "01:12:11", "text": "like we found this thing, we were"}, {"end": "01:12:16", "start": "01:12:13", "text": "somewhere we shouldn't have been. We're"}, {"end": "01:12:18", "start": "01:12:14", "text": "not going to tell you where. Yeah. But"}, {"end": "01:12:19", "start": "01:12:16", "text": "like, even if you bought it at a garage"}, {"end": "01:12:22", "start": "01:12:18", "text": "sale, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't"}, {"end": "01:12:24", "start": "01:12:19", "text": "matter. It's like insane. What is it?"}, {"end": "01:12:27", "start": "01:12:22", "text": "Well, a weird connection to it, too. the"}, {"end": "01:12:30", "start": "01:12:24", "text": "um Nazkin lines that that whole region"}, {"end": "01:12:34", "start": "01:12:27", "text": "even where they found the u mummies is"}, {"end": "01:12:35", "start": "01:12:30", "text": "uh registered under a UNESCO like"}, {"end": "01:12:39", "start": "01:12:34", "text": "heritage site and we've talked about"}, {"end": "01:12:41", "start": "01:12:35", "text": "UNESCO before but they seem to create"}, {"end": "01:12:42", "start": "01:12:39", "text": "these heritage sites to where like"}, {"end": "01:12:44", "start": "01:12:41", "text": "basically they're in control of these"}, {"end": "01:12:46", "start": "01:12:42", "text": "heritage sites like all over the world."}, {"end": "01:12:47", "start": "01:12:44", "text": "One being Gobecepe. I don't know if"}, {"end": "01:12:50", "start": "01:12:46", "text": "you've heard of that. Yes, it's in"}, {"end": "01:12:53", "start": "01:12:47", "text": "Turkey. Super weird stuff. But the this"}, {"end": "01:12:55", "start": "01:12:50", "text": "region is a UNESCO heritage site. Of"}, {"end": "01:12:56", "start": "01:12:53", "text": "course it is. So, like saying like, \"I"}, {"end": "01:12:58", "start": "01:12:55", "text": "don't want to tell you where I got"}, {"end": "01:13:00", "start": "01:12:56", "text": "these.\" They're probably being like,"}, {"end": "01:13:01", "start": "01:12:58", "text": "\"Well, because UNESCO is going to do"}, {"end": "01:13:04", "start": "01:13:00", "text": "something.\" Yeah. You went on someone"}, {"end": "01:13:07", "start": "01:13:01", "text": "else's property. Yeah. Yeah. It's I"}, {"end": "01:13:11", "start": "01:13:04", "text": "don't It's weird. I don't like it. I"}, {"end": "01:13:14", "start": "01:13:07", "text": "mean, maybe I think it's cool. I think I"}, {"end": "01:13:16", "start": "01:13:11", "text": "I mean, I just want to I guess in a"}, {"end": "01:13:19", "start": "01:13:14", "text": "silly way,"}, {"end": "01:13:21", "start": "01:13:16", "text": "if it's if it's real, just know it. I"}, {"end": "01:13:23", "start": "01:13:19", "text": "don't know if like because I think about"}, {"end": "01:13:26", "start": "01:13:21", "text": "stuff like the like you know the the FBI"}, {"end": "01:13:28", "start": "01:13:23", "text": "stuff and all the files for the UFOs and"}, {"end": "01:13:30", "start": "01:13:26", "text": "it's like"}, {"end": "01:13:34", "start": "01:13:28", "text": "I have a hard time now thinking like if"}, {"end": "01:13:37", "start": "01:13:30", "text": "you literally like an alien came down"}, {"end": "01:13:40", "start": "01:13:34", "text": "right here and you saw it is the human"}, {"end": "01:13:42", "start": "01:13:37", "text": "brain just not capable and able to like"}, {"end": "01:13:44", "start": "01:13:40", "text": "not even not say it's real but"}, {"end": "01:13:46", "start": "01:13:42", "text": "appreciate for what it is. You're so"}, {"end": "01:13:48", "start": "01:13:44", "text": "busy with just our lives and everything."}, {"end": "01:13:50", "start": "01:13:46", "text": "There's so many things going on. It's"}, {"end": "01:13:51", "start": "01:13:48", "text": "like Mhm. you see stuff like that like I"}, {"end": "01:13:53", "start": "01:13:50", "text": "just heard about that just now and I'm"}, {"end": "01:13:55", "start": "01:13:51", "text": "like that's crazy and I'm going to go"}, {"end": "01:13:58", "start": "01:13:53", "text": "get in my my car and go think of it"}, {"end": "01:13:59", "start": "01:13:55", "text": "again. Yeah. It's like it's like yeah a"}, {"end": "01:14:00", "start": "01:13:58", "text": "few hours from now you're going to be w"}, {"end": "01:14:01", "start": "01:13:59", "text": "concert just having a great time. Like"}, {"end": "01:14:03", "start": "01:14:00", "text": "it's like you're not it's not even going"}, {"end": "01:14:06", "start": "01:14:01", "text": "to cross your mind. Yeah. Yeah. We're so"}, {"end": "01:14:07", "start": "01:14:03", "text": "over just stimulated everything. To"}, {"end": "01:14:10", "start": "01:14:06", "text": "Grant's point, I mean, that's been at"}, {"end": "01:14:13", "start": "01:14:07", "text": "least in the Western theology a lot,"}, {"end": "01:14:16", "start": "01:14:10", "text": "like if God literally came down and"}, {"end": "01:14:18", "start": "01:14:13", "text": "like, you know, put your hand in my"}, {"end": "01:14:21", "start": "01:14:16", "text": "side, he's right here. Be like, you sure"}, {"end": "01:14:24", "start": "01:14:18", "text": "about that? You know, like seeing"}, {"end": "01:14:27", "start": "01:14:21", "text": "something so insane that it doesn't make"}, {"end": "01:14:30", "start": "01:14:24", "text": "sense. Like, we have a very strong will"}, {"end": "01:14:32", "start": "01:14:27", "text": "to not admit that we have no idea what's"}, {"end": "01:14:34", "start": "01:14:30", "text": "going on. Yeah. You know, for me, it's"}, {"end": "01:14:36", "start": "01:14:32", "text": "like I don't know. Yeah. I mean, we all"}, {"end": "01:14:38", "start": "01:14:34", "text": "grew up within reason Christian and me"}, {"end": "01:14:41", "start": "01:14:36", "text": "and my wife still go to a church in uh"}, {"end": "01:14:44", "start": "01:14:38", "text": "Tampa called Watermark and it rules, but"}, {"end": "01:14:47", "start": "01:14:41", "text": "as far as like the literal all the"}, {"end": "01:14:49", "start": "01:14:44", "text": "literal stuff is kind of like at least"}, {"end": "01:14:51", "start": "01:14:47", "text": "for now is kind of washed away for all"}, {"end": "01:14:53", "start": "01:14:49", "text": "of us and it's just like what's the"}, {"end": "01:14:55", "start": "01:14:51", "text": "point of the Bible to your point like to"}, {"end": "01:14:57", "start": "01:14:53", "text": "save humanity. Yeah. If we just love"}, {"end": "01:15:00", "start": "01:14:55", "text": "each other, we do the things that it"}, {"end": "01:15:02", "start": "01:14:57", "text": "says, you're going to you're going to"}, {"end": "01:15:04", "start": "01:15:00", "text": "have less wars than more. And then when"}, {"end": "01:15:06", "start": "01:15:02", "text": "you get super extreme, you people go"}, {"end": "01:15:08", "start": "01:15:04", "text": "crazy, you know? You can justify"}, {"end": "01:15:09", "start": "01:15:06", "text": "anything with that book. And you can"}, {"end": "01:15:12", "start": "01:15:08", "text": "justify anything with any book. And it's"}, {"end": "01:15:14", "start": "01:15:09", "text": "like so there's all this weird stuff."}, {"end": "01:15:16", "start": "01:15:12", "text": "But yeah, it's just and I think that's"}, {"end": "01:15:18", "start": "01:15:14", "text": "the point. I think the the people in"}, {"end": "01:15:20", "start": "01:15:16", "text": "control know that. I think that's why"}, {"end": "01:15:22", "start": "01:15:18", "text": "they push it so much because it's"}, {"end": "01:15:23", "start": "01:15:20", "text": "everyone's going to follow whatever they"}, {"end": "01:15:25", "start": "01:15:22", "text": "whatever they feel. And as long as"}, {"end": "01:15:27", "start": "01:15:23", "text": "they're distracted, as long as they're"}, {"end": "01:15:28", "start": "01:15:25", "text": "going not sniffing down the right trail,"}, {"end": "01:15:31", "start": "01:15:27", "text": "then we're fine. We're good. Mother"}, {"end": "01:15:33", "start": "01:15:28", "text": "Teresa, the KKK, and Justin Bieber and"}, {"end": "01:15:35", "start": "01:15:31", "text": "Kanye West can't all be worshiping the"}, {"end": "01:15:37", "start": "01:15:33", "text": "same God. But they read the same book"}, {"end": "01:15:39", "start": "01:15:35", "text": "and form all of their opinions. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:15:41", "start": "01:15:37", "text": "It's from the same thing. The book is"}, {"end": "01:15:43", "start": "01:15:39", "text": "not changed. It's us. Like to Grant's"}, {"end": "01:15:45", "start": "01:15:41", "text": "point, like even if you read it,"}, {"end": "01:15:47", "start": "01:15:43", "text": "something else comes out the other end"}, {"end": "01:15:48", "start": "01:15:45", "text": "that's like, \"Wait, what?\" Yeah. You"}, {"end": "01:15:50", "start": "01:15:47", "text": "know, and that's for all of us. That's"}, {"end": "01:15:52", "start": "01:15:48", "text": "not just those people. It's just those"}, {"end": "01:15:53", "start": "01:15:50", "text": "are the extremes. Yeah. Like, how do you"}, {"end": "01:15:54", "start": "01:15:52", "text": "have saints and then murderers and"}, {"end": "01:15:56", "start": "01:15:53", "text": "they're all like, \"We found it in the"}, {"end": "01:15:59", "start": "01:15:54", "text": "Bible.\" Yeah. It's like, \"Yeah, well,"}, {"end": "01:16:00", "start": "01:15:56", "text": "you really did. You did a lot of mental"}, {"end": "01:16:02", "start": "01:15:59", "text": "gymnastics to get there, though.\" That's"}, {"end": "01:16:04", "start": "01:16:00", "text": "why I just look at Jesus. I'm like,"}, {"end": "01:16:06", "start": "01:16:02", "text": "Jesus, that that's simple. It's he seems"}, {"end": "01:16:08", "start": "01:16:04", "text": "simple. I'd grab a beer with that guy."}, {"end": "01:16:10", "start": "01:16:06", "text": "Like, he seems awesome. Well, I mean"}, {"end": "01:16:12", "start": "01:16:08", "text": "it's it's I mean because Christ he talks"}, {"end": "01:16:14", "start": "01:16:10", "text": "about, you know, have childlike faith"}, {"end": "01:16:16", "start": "01:16:12", "text": "and like we are literally supposed to"}, {"end": "01:16:19", "start": "01:16:14", "text": "kind of be like a child when it comes to"}, {"end": "01:16:22", "start": "01:16:16", "text": "salvation. It's a pretty easy thing is"}, {"end": "01:16:23", "start": "01:16:19", "text": "uh what was it? Uh yoke is easy and"}, {"end": "01:16:25", "start": "01:16:22", "text": "burden it's light. Mhm. Mhm. You know,"}, {"end": "01:16:27", "start": "01:16:23", "text": "it's like it's a very easy concept of"}, {"end": "01:16:30", "start": "01:16:25", "text": "just like Christ died for you, you know,"}, {"end": "01:16:32", "start": "01:16:27", "text": "and like and he even knew like people"}, {"end": "01:16:34", "start": "01:16:30", "text": "were going to go crazy when he he's like"}, {"end": "01:16:35", "start": "01:16:32", "text": "talking you can solve riddles, you can"}, {"end": "01:16:37", "start": "01:16:34", "text": "solve mysteries, but if you don't have"}, {"end": "01:16:39", "start": "01:16:35", "text": "love, you're a clanging gong. He's like"}, {"end": "01:16:41", "start": "01:16:37", "text": "shut up and love the person next to you."}, {"end": "01:16:43", "start": "01:16:39", "text": "Quit debating. That's it. Go there. If"}, {"end": "01:16:45", "start": "01:16:41", "text": "you just do that one thing, you're done."}, {"end": "01:16:48", "start": "01:16:43", "text": "Mhm. And the amount of like theology you"}, {"end": "01:16:50", "start": "01:16:45", "text": "understand after submitting to that"}, {"end": "01:16:52", "start": "01:16:48", "text": "first, it's like the scriptures that"}, {"end": "01:16:54", "start": "01:16:50", "text": "used to be used in animosity like take"}, {"end": "01:16:56", "start": "01:16:52", "text": "on a completely different meaning while"}, {"end": "01:16:58", "start": "01:16:54", "text": "you're experiencing love in the act of"}, {"end": "01:17:01", "start": "01:16:56", "text": "loving. It's like it's cool how much"}, {"end": "01:17:03", "start": "01:16:58", "text": "that heals and solves on its own. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:17:06", "start": "01:17:01", "text": "Yeah. Either way, I think aliens are"}, {"end": "01:17:08", "start": "01:17:03", "text": "interdimensional beings. So, agreed. I"}, {"end": "01:17:10", "start": "01:17:06", "text": "agree with that. It's crazy. I mean,"}, {"end": "01:17:14", "start": "01:17:08", "text": "like, have you guys ever seen a UFO?"}, {"end": "01:17:17", "start": "01:17:10", "text": "Honestly, no. No. Anything weird? Have"}, {"end": "01:17:19", "start": "01:17:14", "text": "you? I You seen at least two. At least"}, {"end": "01:17:20", "start": "01:17:17", "text": "two. Wait. Or something that most people"}, {"end": "01:17:23", "start": "01:17:19", "text": "I heard you tell that story on one of"}, {"end": "01:17:25", "start": "01:17:20", "text": "your episodes. You were like camping"}, {"end": "01:17:28", "start": "01:17:23", "text": "with some bros or something. We were at"}, {"end": "01:17:31", "start": "01:17:25", "text": "a cabin in Tennessee and this apparently"}, {"end": "01:17:34", "start": "01:17:28", "text": "it's a pretty common one to see, but it"}, {"end": "01:17:35", "start": "01:17:31", "text": "was like the orb. Yeah. To me it looked"}, {"end": "01:17:37", "start": "01:17:34", "text": "like a star and I was out on the front"}, {"end": "01:17:40", "start": "01:17:35", "text": "porch peeing in the middle of the night"}, {"end": "01:17:41", "start": "01:17:37", "text": "and as one does. Yeah. And then I I it"}, {"end": "01:17:43", "start": "01:17:40", "text": "just you know that feeling where it"}, {"end": "01:17:46", "start": "01:17:41", "text": "looks or it feels like something is just"}, {"end": "01:17:48", "start": "01:17:43", "text": "staring at you and I look over and I see"}, {"end": "01:17:49", "start": "01:17:46", "text": "this super bright star. I'm like, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "01:17:52", "start": "01:17:48", "text": "that's interesting.\" All of a sudden it"}, {"end": "01:17:55", "start": "01:17:49", "text": "goes I'm like, \"Oh my gosh.\" And then it"}, {"end": "01:17:58", "start": "01:17:52", "text": "goes and then shoots off and I just peed"}, {"end": "01:18:01", "start": "01:17:55", "text": "all over myself. So sick. I wish that"}, {"end": "01:18:04", "start": "01:17:58", "text": "Airbnb host would send us that ring cam."}, {"end": "01:18:06", "start": "01:18:01", "text": "I know."}, {"end": "01:18:09", "start": "01:18:04", "text": "It was terrifying. I hated it. But the"}, {"end": "01:18:11", "start": "01:18:06", "text": "the first one I saw was with my wife. So"}, {"end": "01:18:14", "start": "01:18:09", "text": "there is actual second another"}, {"end": "01:18:16", "start": "01:18:11", "text": "eyewitness. Yeah. Um but we were in our"}, {"end": "01:18:19", "start": "01:18:14", "text": "yard. This was six years ago or"}, {"end": "01:18:21", "start": "01:18:16", "text": "something. 2019. Yeah. At my house."}, {"end": "01:18:25", "start": "01:18:19", "text": "Yeah. At his current house. Um I bought"}, {"end": "01:18:29", "start": "01:18:21", "text": "his house. Nice. Yeah. Um, but we were"}, {"end": "01:18:30", "start": "01:18:25", "text": "in the uh sideyard and we just so"}, {"end": "01:18:34", "start": "01:18:29", "text": "happened to look up when there's this"}, {"end": "01:18:38", "start": "01:18:30", "text": "giant V thing and the only way I can"}, {"end": "01:18:40", "start": "01:18:34", "text": "describe it was it was like translucent,"}, {"end": "01:18:45", "start": "01:18:38", "text": "but it looked like the clouds but a"}, {"end": "01:18:47", "start": "01:18:40", "text": "perfect V and silent as be but massive."}, {"end": "01:18:49", "start": "01:18:45", "text": "Like if it looked like if you were to"}, {"end": "01:18:50", "start": "01:18:47", "text": "compare it to like a plane or something."}, {"end": "01:18:53", "start": "01:18:49", "text": "Yeah. It would have had to have been"}, {"end": "01:18:56", "start": "01:18:50", "text": "like 10 football fields long. Just huge."}, {"end": "01:18:58", "start": "01:18:53", "text": "That's crazy. And it just went just"}, {"end": "01:18:59", "start": "01:18:56", "text": "right over us. I'm like, \"What is that?\""}, {"end": "01:19:00", "start": "01:18:58", "text": "And my wife's like, \"What is that? What"}, {"end": "01:19:02", "start": "01:18:59", "text": "is that? What is that?\" And then it was"}, {"end": "01:19:04", "start": "01:19:00", "text": "gone. I love that. Wild. And then I went"}, {"end": "01:19:07", "start": "01:19:02", "text": "on a UFO for him and reported it and"}, {"end": "01:19:11", "start": "01:19:04", "text": "never heard back. I feel like that stuff"}, {"end": "01:19:14", "start": "01:19:07", "text": "has happened so much where even if 95%"}, {"end": "01:19:17", "start": "01:19:11", "text": "of it's a grift, the 5% that isn't is"}, {"end": "01:19:19", "start": "01:19:14", "text": "still absurd. Yeah. You know, and that's"}, {"end": "01:19:21", "start": "01:19:17", "text": "the crazy thing. We read stories about"}, {"end": "01:19:23", "start": "01:19:19", "text": "people who have said, \"I've seen it."}, {"end": "01:19:25", "start": "01:19:21", "text": "I've been face to face with something.\""}, {"end": "01:19:27", "start": "01:19:23", "text": "Yeah. These people have no motive. It"}, {"end": "01:19:30", "start": "01:19:25", "text": "hurts them in the long run. Like people"}, {"end": "01:19:32", "start": "01:19:27", "text": "doubt them. They're outcast. They're"}, {"end": "01:19:33", "start": "01:19:30", "text": "ridiculed. Like it's there's nothing to"}, {"end": "01:19:35", "start": "01:19:32", "text": "gain from it. There obviously is now"}, {"end": "01:19:37", "start": "01:19:33", "text": "where it's like if I came on here and I"}, {"end": "01:19:40", "start": "01:19:35", "text": "had a podcast, a UFO story, it'd be"}, {"end": "01:19:42", "start": "01:19:37", "text": "great for the pod, right? Great content."}, {"end": "01:19:44", "start": "01:19:40", "text": "But these people, there's people in the"}, {"end": "01:19:45", "start": "01:19:42", "text": "the 20th century y who were ostracized"}, {"end": "01:19:47", "start": "01:19:44", "text": "from school. Parents are like, \"You're"}, {"end": "01:19:49", "start": "01:19:45", "text": "insane.\" Yeah. Yeah. Parents look at"}, {"end": "01:19:51", "start": "01:19:47", "text": "these kids in Zimbabwe that had a face"}, {"end": "01:19:53", "start": "01:19:49", "text": "tof face encounter that said they were"}, {"end": "01:19:55", "start": "01:19:51", "text": "lying. You're dumb. You don't know what"}, {"end": "01:19:57", "start": "01:19:53", "text": "you saw. Taken out of school away from"}, {"end": "01:19:59", "start": "01:19:55", "text": "their friends. This thing changed their"}, {"end": "01:20:02", "start": "01:19:57", "text": "life. And yet 20 years later, they're"}, {"end": "01:20:03", "start": "01:19:59", "text": "not backing down on it. Yeah. Because"}, {"end": "01:20:05", "start": "01:20:02", "text": "they can't just ignore it. Like this"}, {"end": "01:20:07", "start": "01:20:03", "text": "this happened. And so I don't believe in"}, {"end": "01:20:09", "start": "01:20:05", "text": "aliens or anything like that, but I just"}, {"end": "01:20:11", "start": "01:20:07", "text": "I mean I don't anything like that, but I"}, {"end": "01:20:14", "start": "01:20:09", "text": "just don't know what it is. I don't know"}, {"end": "01:20:17", "start": "01:20:11", "text": "what you know. I know those accounts are"}, {"end": "01:20:20", "start": "01:20:14", "text": "real in some way. I just don't know what"}, {"end": "01:20:23", "start": "01:20:17", "text": "the physical thing is. What level of"}, {"end": "01:20:26", "start": "01:20:20", "text": "arrogance do you need to think that"}, {"end": "01:20:28", "start": "01:20:23", "text": "we're the only thing in the whole thing?"}, {"end": "01:20:31", "start": "01:20:26", "text": "Like that like the idea of like we're"}, {"end": "01:20:32", "start": "01:20:28", "text": "not only the most advanced but this is"}, {"end": "01:20:36", "start": "01:20:31", "text": "it."}, {"end": "01:20:38", "start": "01:20:32", "text": "The entire universe is just ours. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:20:40", "start": "01:20:36", "text": "Well, you guys would love talking to"}, {"end": "01:20:42", "start": "01:20:38", "text": "this guy who's on our podcast, Tim"}, {"end": "01:20:44", "start": "01:20:40", "text": "Alberino. Okay. He has this theory. I"}, {"end": "01:20:46", "start": "01:20:42", "text": "don't think it's his theory, but he"}, {"end": "01:20:48", "start": "01:20:44", "text": "talks about it a lot."}, {"end": "01:20:51", "start": "01:20:46", "text": "um that so in scripture it talks about"}, {"end": "01:20:53", "start": "01:20:48", "text": "um like the war of the heavens basically"}, {"end": "01:20:55", "start": "01:20:51", "text": "that happened with like Lucifer and led"}, {"end": "01:20:58", "start": "01:20:53", "text": "like a third of the angels in rebel"}, {"end": "01:21:00", "start": "01:20:55", "text": "against God and stuff. He's saying that"}, {"end": "01:21:01", "start": "01:20:58", "text": "these"}, {"end": "01:21:02", "start": "01:21:00", "text": "well let me back up a little bit. So"}, {"end": "01:21:04", "start": "01:21:01", "text": "like talking about like heavenly"}, {"end": "01:21:07", "start": "01:21:02", "text": "creatures we always like a lot of people"}, {"end": "01:21:10", "start": "01:21:04", "text": "just associate just angels like these"}, {"end": "01:21:13", "start": "01:21:07", "text": "pretty Brad Pitt men with wings you know"}, {"end": "01:21:15", "start": "01:21:10", "text": "but it's like sick. Yeah. Yeah. But"}, {"end": "01:21:17", "start": "01:21:13", "text": "scripture talks about other heavenly"}, {"end": "01:21:19", "start": "01:21:15", "text": "beings that are pretty terrifying"}, {"end": "01:21:21", "start": "01:21:17", "text": "looking like the um serarapham and"}, {"end": "01:21:23", "start": "01:21:19", "text": "cherubam that have like six wings, eyes"}, {"end": "01:21:26", "start": "01:21:21", "text": "all over its body and stuff like"}, {"end": "01:21:29", "start": "01:21:23", "text": "terrifying looking stuff. But his theory"}, {"end": "01:21:33", "start": "01:21:26", "text": "is that the different planets in our"}, {"end": "01:21:35", "start": "01:21:29", "text": "solar system were occupied by different"}, {"end": "01:21:38", "start": "01:21:33", "text": "heavenly creatures. Mars being one of"}, {"end": "01:21:40", "start": "01:21:35", "text": "them. Varing points in history. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:21:42", "start": "01:21:38", "text": "And that the war when that broke out,"}, {"end": "01:21:45", "start": "01:21:40", "text": "God basically"}, {"end": "01:21:48", "start": "01:21:42", "text": "destroyed these planets and subjugated"}, {"end": "01:21:50", "start": "01:21:45", "text": "the majority of these fallen angels and"}, {"end": "01:21:54", "start": "01:21:48", "text": "demons or whatever onto Earth. And so"}, {"end": "01:21:56", "start": "01:21:50", "text": "that's where we get now potentially all"}, {"end": "01:21:59", "start": "01:21:54", "text": "these alien sightings that can travel"}, {"end": "01:22:03", "start": "01:21:56", "text": "interdimensionally. It sounds crazy, but"}, {"end": "01:22:04", "start": "01:21:59", "text": "it's a fun does sound crazy, but like we"}, {"end": "01:22:06", "start": "01:22:03", "text": "said, everything in the Bible, we're"}, {"end": "01:22:08", "start": "01:22:04", "text": "like, \"This is absurd. This is crazy.\""}, {"end": "01:22:09", "start": "01:22:06", "text": "That's not in the Bible. Yeah. I'm just"}, {"end": "01:22:11", "start": "01:22:08", "text": "saying. But if we could believe certain"}, {"end": "01:22:13", "start": "01:22:09", "text": "things, we could that's in the realm."}, {"end": "01:22:16", "start": "01:22:11", "text": "There is like a weird thin space between"}, {"end": "01:22:19", "start": "01:22:13", "text": "like a tangible us and then something"}, {"end": "01:22:21", "start": "01:22:16", "text": "else. Yeah. Like whether it's people see"}, {"end": "01:22:23", "start": "01:22:19", "text": "ghosts, people, you know, hear things"}, {"end": "01:22:26", "start": "01:22:21", "text": "like you ever seen like those little"}, {"end": "01:22:29", "start": "01:22:23", "text": "kids and they just say something crazy"}, {"end": "01:22:31", "start": "01:22:26", "text": "like just a kid that's just like the old"}, {"end": "01:22:33", "start": "01:22:29", "text": "man died right over there like after you"}, {"end": "01:22:34", "start": "01:22:31", "text": "buy a house. Yeah. And you're like what"}, {"end": "01:22:36", "start": "01:22:33", "text": "old man? man. And then you talk to the"}, {"end": "01:22:40", "start": "01:22:34", "text": "neighbor like 2 years later and he's"}, {"end": "01:22:41", "start": "01:22:36", "text": "like, \"Oh yeah, like in 1860 a guy"}, {"end": "01:22:44", "start": "01:22:40", "text": "himself in that corner and you're like,"}, {"end": "01:22:46", "start": "01:22:41", "text": "\"How did my child know that?\" Yeah. I've"}, {"end": "01:22:48", "start": "01:22:44", "text": "never had that. But countless countless"}, {"end": "01:22:50", "start": "01:22:46", "text": "stories of that stuff. Yeah. Kids"}, {"end": "01:22:52", "start": "01:22:48", "text": "describing the way a grandpa or"}, {"end": "01:22:54", "start": "01:22:50", "text": "grandmother looked before they even have"}, {"end": "01:22:55", "start": "01:22:52", "text": "seen pictures or knew about them. Like"}, {"end": "01:22:58", "start": "01:22:54", "text": "it's like I don't like this. Have you"}, {"end": "01:23:00", "start": "01:22:55", "text": "listened to that podcast, the telepathy"}, {"end": "01:23:03", "start": "01:22:58", "text": "tapes? Oh yeah. Talked about it a lot."}, {"end": "01:23:06", "start": "01:23:00", "text": "stuff like that is just there's"}, {"end": "01:23:07", "start": "01:23:03", "text": "definitely not nothing like you know"}, {"end": "01:23:10", "start": "01:23:06", "text": "like we've our whole band's been through"}, {"end": "01:23:11", "start": "01:23:07", "text": "like a obvious transformation and you"}, {"end": "01:23:12", "start": "01:23:10", "text": "know we have people that are just like"}, {"end": "01:23:16", "start": "01:23:11", "text": "yeah I don't believe anything and then"}, {"end": "01:23:18", "start": "01:23:12", "text": "some people still live in community with"}, {"end": "01:23:21", "start": "01:23:16", "text": "believers and vice versa and everywhere"}, {"end": "01:23:24", "start": "01:23:18", "text": "in between and it's just like"}, {"end": "01:23:27", "start": "01:23:21", "text": "there's definitely not nothing going on."}, {"end": "01:23:31", "start": "01:23:24", "text": "Yeah. Whether it's aliens, demons, God's"}, {"end": "01:23:33", "start": "01:23:27", "text": "real, God's not real. uh spirits. The"}, {"end": "01:23:37", "start": "01:23:31", "text": "fact that like even we're we're just"}, {"end": "01:23:40", "start": "01:23:33", "text": "made up of other stuff like is weird."}, {"end": "01:23:43", "start": "01:23:37", "text": "Yeah. Like my body when it no longer is"}, {"end": "01:23:45", "start": "01:23:40", "text": "will just become something else. Like"}, {"end": "01:23:47", "start": "01:23:43", "text": "it's very strange. Like all the water in"}, {"end": "01:23:49", "start": "01:23:45", "text": "the world has always been here. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:23:51", "start": "01:23:47", "text": "Like the odds of me drinking one of"}, {"end": "01:23:53", "start": "01:23:49", "text": "these water bottles and having this at"}, {"end": "01:23:56", "start": "01:23:51", "text": "least a portion of that have been"}, {"end": "01:23:59", "start": "01:23:53", "text": "something a bronosaurus drank is nuts."}, {"end": "01:24:02", "start": "01:23:56", "text": "Yeah. You know, George Washington peed"}, {"end": "01:24:05", "start": "01:23:59", "text": "in a field and now somehow I'm drinking"}, {"end": "01:24:07", "start": "01:24:02", "text": "George Washington's water. Like it's"}, {"end": "01:24:10", "start": "01:24:05", "text": "just a but but think about how insane"}, {"end": "01:24:11", "start": "01:24:07", "text": "like just the things we know about that"}, {"end": "01:24:13", "start": "01:24:10", "text": "we don't need to suspend belief on. You"}, {"end": "01:24:16", "start": "01:24:11", "text": "have no faith. You just look at tactile"}, {"end": "01:24:18", "start": "01:24:13", "text": "facts. Like it's absurd how all of this"}, {"end": "01:24:19", "start": "01:24:16", "text": "works. Yeah. And it's so casual now."}, {"end": "01:24:21", "start": "01:24:18", "text": "That's why I'm like I'm I'm still"}, {"end": "01:24:24", "start": "01:24:19", "text": "amazed. Every time I look at animals or"}, {"end": "01:24:26", "start": "01:24:21", "text": "I see even a plane flying over, it's"}, {"end": "01:24:29", "start": "01:24:24", "text": "like I'm still amazed by that. That's"}, {"end": "01:24:31", "start": "01:24:26", "text": "crazy. Yeah. That blows my mind. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:24:33", "start": "01:24:29", "text": "Trying to trying to stay in awe of stuff"}, {"end": "01:24:36", "start": "01:24:31", "text": "is I think important like as you get"}, {"end": "01:24:38", "start": "01:24:33", "text": "older, you know, it's like the awe of"}, {"end": "01:24:40", "start": "01:24:36", "text": "things going away is like the start of a"}, {"end": "01:24:43", "start": "01:24:38", "text": "slow death. Yeah. It's the childhood the"}, {"end": "01:24:45", "start": "01:24:40", "text": "part, you know, like life should be"}, {"end": "01:24:48", "start": "01:24:43", "text": "play. Yeah. You know, we started a fake"}, {"end": "01:24:49", "start": "01:24:45", "text": "band for all of a week with Under Oath"}, {"end": "01:24:51", "start": "01:24:48", "text": "and just wore masks and called it"}, {"end": "01:24:55", "start": "01:24:49", "text": "something else and just played. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:24:57", "start": "01:24:51", "text": "Made no money, just fun. And it's like"}, {"end": "01:24:59", "start": "01:24:55", "text": "the day that you can't have fun anymore"}, {"end": "01:25:02", "start": "01:24:57", "text": "is the day like the wrinkles start"}, {"end": "01:25:03", "start": "01:24:59", "text": "showing up. I mean, I'm gray. I don't"}, {"end": "01:25:05", "start": "01:25:02", "text": "Something just popped off there. That"}, {"end": "01:25:07", "start": "01:25:03", "text": "was my Oh, but yeah, like we're"}, {"end": "01:25:09", "start": "01:25:05", "text": "obviously aging. That's just natural,"}, {"end": "01:25:10", "start": "01:25:07", "text": "but it's like you can is there's a"}, {"end": "01:25:12", "start": "01:25:09", "text": "difference between your body breaking"}, {"end": "01:25:15", "start": "01:25:10", "text": "down because you're 60 and like your"}, {"end": "01:25:17", "start": "01:25:12", "text": "spirit and your mind just being like,"}, {"end": "01:25:19", "start": "01:25:15", "text": "yuck. There's that there's that phrase,"}, {"end": "01:25:20", "start": "01:25:17", "text": "you don't stop playing when because you"}, {"end": "01:25:22", "start": "01:25:19", "text": "grow up. You stop you grow up because"}, {"end": "01:25:24", "start": "01:25:20", "text": "you stop playing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "01:25:27", "start": "01:25:22", "text": "think having kids is like the easiest"}, {"end": "01:25:29", "start": "01:25:24", "text": "way to tap back into that. Yeah. Not"}, {"end": "01:25:31", "start": "01:25:27", "text": "having like kids or being around kids or"}, {"end": "01:25:34", "start": "01:25:29", "text": "present around kids is a really hard"}, {"end": "01:25:37", "start": "01:25:31", "text": "thing to like mentally prioritize like"}, {"end": "01:25:39", "start": "01:25:34", "text": "taking time five minutes whatever just"}, {"end": "01:25:40", "start": "01:25:37", "text": "to sit back and like when was the last"}, {"end": "01:25:43", "start": "01:25:39", "text": "time you just went and like had lunch in"}, {"end": "01:25:44", "start": "01:25:40", "text": "a park? Yeah. Like never. you never, you"}, {"end": "01:25:47", "start": "01:25:43", "text": "know, I mean, because you're so busy and"}, {"end": "01:25:49", "start": "01:25:44", "text": "it's like you get that like kind of just"}, {"end": "01:25:51", "start": "01:25:47", "text": "the ease of that with having a kid and"}, {"end": "01:25:53", "start": "01:25:49", "text": "seeing them appreciate and realize those"}, {"end": "01:25:54", "start": "01:25:51", "text": "things and you're like, \"Oh, okay.\" It's"}, {"end": "01:25:56", "start": "01:25:53", "text": "come, you know, it makes it a lot"}, {"end": "01:25:59", "start": "01:25:54", "text": "easier. But yeah, I mean, he's totally"}, {"end": "01:26:02", "start": "01:25:56", "text": "right. It's like spirit. It takes a lot"}, {"end": "01:26:04", "start": "01:25:59", "text": "of work to like stay amazed at the"}, {"end": "01:26:05", "start": "01:26:02", "text": "amazing things everywhere. Yeah, it is"}, {"end": "01:26:07", "start": "01:26:04", "text": "work. Yeah, you're right. Like you have"}, {"end": "01:26:09", "start": "01:26:05", "text": "to intentionally do it. That's why I"}, {"end": "01:26:11", "start": "01:26:07", "text": "love people that are like psychos about"}, {"end": "01:26:14", "start": "01:26:09", "text": "something. Like we did a podcast at"}, {"end": "01:26:17", "start": "01:26:11", "text": "Calvo Motorsports in Austin and this guy"}, {"end": "01:26:21", "start": "01:26:14", "text": "spent his whole life building the"}, {"end": "01:26:24", "start": "01:26:17", "text": "fastest Chargers in the world. Vipers."}, {"end": "01:26:26", "start": "01:26:21", "text": "Vipers. Yeah. He owns has the world"}, {"end": "01:26:28", "start": "01:26:24", "text": "record for the half mile. And I don't"}, {"end": "01:26:30", "start": "01:26:26", "text": "know anything about cars. I'm on a car"}, {"end": "01:26:32", "start": "01:26:28", "text": "podcast. I'm like I drive a 2012 Toyota"}, {"end": "01:26:34", "start": "01:26:30", "text": "Tundra man. I don't even know what a"}, {"end": "01:26:37", "start": "01:26:32", "text": "carburetor looks like. But like hearing"}, {"end": "01:26:40", "start": "01:26:34", "text": "him talk about how passionate about cars"}, {"end": "01:26:43", "start": "01:26:37", "text": "he is just gets me so excited. Like you"}, {"end": "01:26:46", "start": "01:26:40", "text": "meet someone that's so pumped on what"}, {"end": "01:26:49", "start": "01:26:43", "text": "they do and I immediately go, \"Do I love"}, {"end": "01:26:50", "start": "01:26:46", "text": "anything this much?\" Like, \"Do I really"}, {"end": "01:26:52", "start": "01:26:49", "text": "love being an under oath? Do I really"}, {"end": "01:26:55", "start": "01:26:50", "text": "love being a dad? Do I really love being"}, {"end": "01:26:58", "start": "01:26:52", "text": "a husband?\" Answer is yes. Do I have"}, {"end": "01:27:01", "start": "01:26:55", "text": "anything that I love that much? Like an"}, {"end": "01:27:04", "start": "01:26:58", "text": "intoxicatingly psychotic drive just like"}, {"end": "01:27:06", "start": "01:27:01", "text": "every day. True passion. Yeah. I met a"}, {"end": "01:27:08", "start": "01:27:04", "text": "guy in Austin as well. like a he's a"}, {"end": "01:27:11", "start": "01:27:06", "text": "really good songwriter and he's like,"}, {"end": "01:27:12", "start": "01:27:08", "text": "\"Dude, I wake up and I I wake up every"}, {"end": "01:27:15", "start": "01:27:11", "text": "day like shoot out of bed excited and"}, {"end": "01:27:16", "start": "01:27:12", "text": "just go music music.\" Like I mean, I"}, {"end": "01:27:20", "start": "01:27:15", "text": "don't do that. Yeah. You know, and it's"}, {"end": "01:27:23", "start": "01:27:16", "text": "just it's our job to do our best to try"}, {"end": "01:27:25", "start": "01:27:20", "text": "to live some sort of Peter Pan story uh"}, {"end": "01:27:28", "start": "01:27:23", "text": "while also being pragmatic adults that"}, {"end": "01:27:31", "start": "01:27:25", "text": "learn lessons. But like that wonder side"}, {"end": "01:27:32", "start": "01:27:28", "text": "is like really important to not lose."}, {"end": "01:27:35", "start": "01:27:31", "text": "And it's not natural. Some people are"}, {"end": "01:27:36", "start": "01:27:32", "text": "like, \"Oh, that guy's 50, 60, and he"}, {"end": "01:27:38", "start": "01:27:35", "text": "just loves life.\" He doesn't just love"}, {"end": "01:27:40", "start": "01:27:36", "text": "life. He worked really hard at"}, {"end": "01:27:42", "start": "01:27:38", "text": "continuing to love life. Yeah. It's"}, {"end": "01:27:44", "start": "01:27:40", "text": "like, \"Oh, you're married for 30 years."}, {"end": "01:27:46", "start": "01:27:42", "text": "Your kids are well behaved. You guys all"}, {"end": "01:27:48", "start": "01:27:44", "text": "got lucky.\" It's like, \"No, this is"}, {"end": "01:27:50", "start": "01:27:46", "text": "work.\" And like, we have to work on"}, {"end": "01:27:51", "start": "01:27:48", "text": "that, too, you know? And it's like,"}, {"end": "01:27:54", "start": "01:27:50", "text": "yeah, talking about aliens. I want them."}, {"end": "01:27:58", "start": "01:27:51", "text": "I need almost need them to be real, you"}, {"end": "01:28:00", "start": "01:27:54", "text": "know? Like, I want AI to take over."}, {"end": "01:28:01", "start": "01:27:58", "text": "Like, we got to mix it up. Mix it up a"}, {"end": "01:28:03", "start": "01:28:00", "text": "little bit. Yeah, that would be really"}, {"end": "01:28:05", "start": "01:28:01", "text": "really bad for our show if someone could"}, {"end": "01:28:08", "start": "01:28:03", "text": "definitively prove that prove that all"}, {"end": "01:28:09", "start": "01:28:05", "text": "of this was fake. Yeah, that would be"}, {"end": "01:28:11", "start": "01:28:08", "text": "bad. It'd be all right. We'll move on."}, {"end": "01:28:15", "start": "01:28:09", "text": "So, you're So, you're a propaganda"}, {"end": "01:28:17", "start": "01:28:11", "text": "engine then? I think we are. On uh our"}, {"end": "01:28:19", "start": "01:28:15", "text": "Instagram, we only follow one person."}, {"end": "01:28:20", "start": "01:28:17", "text": "It's the CIA. Do you really? We have"}, {"end": "01:28:23", "start": "01:28:19", "text": "almost a million followers and people"}, {"end": "01:28:25", "start": "01:28:20", "text": "are like, \"Wait, are you guys hired by"}, {"end": "01:28:28", "start": "01:28:23", "text": "the CIA?\" What is Yeah, I'm a plant."}, {"end": "01:28:29", "start": "01:28:25", "text": "Aliens are real, guys. Uh, if we're a"}, {"end": "01:28:32", "start": "01:28:28", "text": "plant, we're like the worst plant out"}, {"end": "01:28:34", "start": "01:28:29", "text": "there for real. Um, well, speaking of"}, {"end": "01:28:37", "start": "01:28:32", "text": "the music industry, Yeah. How long have"}, {"end": "01:28:40", "start": "01:28:34", "text": "you guys been in the industry? 24 years."}, {"end": "01:28:42", "start": "01:28:37", "text": "Dang, man. That's awesome. Yeah. Almost"}, {"end": "01:28:44", "start": "01:28:40", "text": "a quarter of a century. You guys are"}, {"end": "01:28:47", "start": "01:28:42", "text": "like 27, right? That's amazing. Start"}, {"end": "01:28:49", "start": "01:28:44", "text": "young. No. Yeah. Next. Next year will be"}, {"end": "01:28:52", "start": "01:28:47", "text": "25 years. That's sick. Cool. Is the"}, {"end": "01:28:55", "start": "01:28:49", "text": "Illuminati reel?"}, {"end": "01:28:58", "start": "01:28:52", "text": "Is it? Yeah. I'm just sure. Are you guys"}, {"end": "01:29:00", "start": "01:28:55", "text": "in it? I mean, no, we can't talk about"}, {"end": "01:29:01", "start": "01:28:58", "text": "it, but yeah. What are your thoughts on"}, {"end": "01:29:03", "start": "01:29:00", "text": "that, though? Like the the music"}, {"end": "01:29:07", "start": "01:29:01", "text": "industry or Hollywood, this is kind of"}, {"end": "01:29:09", "start": "01:29:03", "text": "like an old like pretty over do outdated"}, {"end": "01:29:10", "start": "01:29:07", "text": "conspiracy of like Illuminati, but it's"}, {"end": "01:29:13", "start": "01:29:09", "text": "definitely a real conspiracy that a lot"}, {"end": "01:29:16", "start": "01:29:10", "text": "of just normal people believe and you"}, {"end": "01:29:18", "start": "01:29:13", "text": "guys have seen and met the some of the"}, {"end": "01:29:20", "start": "01:29:16", "text": "biggest people in the world. Yeah. No,"}, {"end": "01:29:22", "start": "01:29:18", "text": "it's it's not like Beyonce like drank a"}, {"end": "01:29:24", "start": "01:29:20", "text": "kid's blood and signed over to Satan and"}, {"end": "01:29:27", "start": "01:29:22", "text": "now she's Beyonce. I don't It's not like"}, {"end": "01:29:29", "start": "01:29:24", "text": "that. Yeah. But it I mean it's the music"}, {"end": "01:29:30", "start": "01:29:27", "text": "industry is just corrupt like the diddy"}, {"end": "01:29:32", "start": "01:29:29", "text": "stuff and all that stuff. Yeah. It's"}, {"end": "01:29:34", "start": "01:29:30", "text": "just because power. Yeah. Like everyone"}, {"end": "01:29:36", "start": "01:29:32", "text": "hates white men and in reality it's just"}, {"end": "01:29:39", "start": "01:29:34", "text": "a lot of white men have all the power."}, {"end": "01:29:41", "start": "01:29:36", "text": "And if it was like orange transhuman"}, {"end": "01:29:43", "start": "01:29:39", "text": "women we would hate them. Like it"}, {"end": "01:29:45", "start": "01:29:41", "text": "doesn't matter. Whoever has the power is"}, {"end": "01:29:48", "start": "01:29:43", "text": "going to become a jerk. Sure. you know,"}, {"end": "01:29:50", "start": "01:29:45", "text": "is it is it do you from what you've"}, {"end": "01:29:52", "start": "01:29:48", "text": "observed or if you think do you think"}, {"end": "01:29:55", "start": "01:29:50", "text": "it's like darker than what it appears on"}, {"end": "01:29:58", "start": "01:29:52", "text": "the surface? Like more like sinister and"}, {"end": "01:30:00", "start": "01:29:55", "text": "like Yeah, I think blackmailing and like"}, {"end": "01:30:02", "start": "01:29:58", "text": "Yeah. I mean, it's weird, but Alex Jones"}, {"end": "01:30:04", "start": "01:30:00", "text": "was talking about Epstein's Island for"}, {"end": "01:30:06", "start": "01:30:02", "text": "like years and years and years and yeah,"}, {"end": "01:30:09", "start": "01:30:04", "text": "you know, you could spout out 150 weird"}, {"end": "01:30:10", "start": "01:30:06", "text": "things and land twice. So, I'm not"}, {"end": "01:30:12", "start": "01:30:09", "text": "saying I subscribe to him and think that"}, {"end": "01:30:15", "start": "01:30:10", "text": "he's right on everything, but it's like"}, {"end": "01:30:17", "start": "01:30:12", "text": "it's so fantastical that you're like,"}, {"end": "01:30:19", "start": "01:30:15", "text": "\"Shut up, you cook.\" You know, and then"}, {"end": "01:30:20", "start": "01:30:17", "text": "you hear about these titty parties and"}, {"end": "01:30:22", "start": "01:30:19", "text": "you're like, \"Yeah, right.\" And then"}, {"end": "01:30:25", "start": "01:30:20", "text": "you're like, \"Oh my god.\" Like it's"}, {"end": "01:30:27", "start": "01:30:22", "text": "almost like now what what could surprise"}, {"end": "01:30:29", "start": "01:30:25", "text": "you now. Yeah. Like honestly. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:30:31", "start": "01:30:27", "text": "Drinking kids blood and all that stuff"}, {"end": "01:30:33", "start": "01:30:29", "text": "probably. Yeah. Like lizard people"}, {"end": "01:30:36", "start": "01:30:31", "text": "probably not. Yeah. Gay frogs. We'll"}, {"end": "01:30:38", "start": "01:30:33", "text": "see. I don't We'll see. Ribbit. Hello my"}, {"end": "01:30:39", "start": "01:30:36", "text": "honey. Yeah, I don't know if I Yeah, I"}, {"end": "01:30:41", "start": "01:30:38", "text": "don't know if it goes that level, but I"}, {"end": "01:30:44", "start": "01:30:39", "text": "think it's, you know, power just desires"}, {"end": "01:30:46", "start": "01:30:41", "text": "power. And it's like you will do what it"}, {"end": "01:30:48", "start": "01:30:44", "text": "takes to keep that power or gain more."}, {"end": "01:30:50", "start": "01:30:46", "text": "And I think that that line is a very"}, {"end": "01:30:52", "start": "01:30:48", "text": "blurry line of what that is, whether"}, {"end": "01:30:55", "start": "01:30:50", "text": "it's like a diddy thing or like, you"}, {"end": "01:30:57", "start": "01:30:52", "text": "know, just controlling a whole like"}, {"end": "01:30:59", "start": "01:30:55", "text": "market because you have the money and"}, {"end": "01:31:02", "start": "01:30:57", "text": "the tools and the uh influence to do it."}, {"end": "01:31:06", "start": "01:30:59", "text": "So yeah. Well, have you guys heard the"}, {"end": "01:31:10", "start": "01:31:02", "text": "the conspiracy theory about the 432 444"}, {"end": "01:31:13", "start": "01:31:06", "text": "hertz thing? Yes. Uh, refresh me. It's"}, {"end": "01:31:15", "start": "01:31:10", "text": "basically like it was set up a specific"}, {"end": "01:31:18", "start": "01:31:13", "text": "by the Nazis. Yes. as like a a a"}, {"end": "01:31:22", "start": "01:31:15", "text": "frequency change in our music industry"}, {"end": "01:31:25", "start": "01:31:18", "text": "and radio broadcasting to cause this fre"}, {"end": "01:31:28", "start": "01:31:22", "text": "the 432 frequency"}, {"end": "01:31:31", "start": "01:31:25", "text": "like almost like com what do you how"}, {"end": "01:31:34", "start": "01:31:28", "text": "would you say it's like um interacts"}, {"end": "01:31:38", "start": "01:31:31", "text": "with our like human self to like make us"}, {"end": "01:31:41", "start": "01:31:34", "text": "on edge or make us more um"}, {"end": "01:31:42", "start": "01:31:38", "text": "like willing to participate in something"}, {"end": "01:31:45", "start": "01:31:41", "text": "like a programming kind of like a"}, {"end": "01:31:47", "start": "01:31:42", "text": "brainwashing Yeah. Yeah. Have you heard"}, {"end": "01:31:49", "start": "01:31:45", "text": "of that or have? Yeah. Yeah. I don't"}, {"end": "01:31:51", "start": "01:31:47", "text": "know. I mean I I don't I don't have all"}, {"end": "01:31:53", "start": "01:31:49", "text": "the research on it so I'm not the"}, {"end": "01:31:56", "start": "01:31:51", "text": "expert. But yeah, they figured out some"}, {"end": "01:31:57", "start": "01:31:53", "text": "like you know in metal like there's like"}, {"end": "01:31:59", "start": "01:31:56", "text": "the brown note. It's like what's that?"}, {"end": "01:32:01", "start": "01:31:57", "text": "It's like it's so low it makes you"}, {"end": "01:32:03", "start": "01:31:59", "text": "instantly crap yourself. There's all"}, {"end": "01:32:04", "start": "01:32:01", "text": "these theories around that, but this"}, {"end": "01:32:06", "start": "01:32:03", "text": "this seems to be a bit more scientific"}, {"end": "01:32:10", "start": "01:32:04", "text": "than that. But yeah, I mean music is"}, {"end": "01:32:13", "start": "01:32:06", "text": "powerful. Yeah. And frequencies are very"}, {"end": "01:32:16", "start": "01:32:10", "text": "powerful. Yeah. you know, uh, as far as"}, {"end": "01:32:20", "start": "01:32:13", "text": "what did he do? Didn't he like didn't he"}, {"end": "01:32:22", "start": "01:32:16", "text": "put it in some sort of like everything"}, {"end": "01:32:24", "start": "01:32:20", "text": "now has to be in these hertz? Yeah. So"}, {"end": "01:32:26", "start": "01:32:22", "text": "that I could just basically have a bunch"}, {"end": "01:32:28", "start": "01:32:24", "text": "of zombies that will do whatever I say."}, {"end": "01:32:32", "start": "01:32:26", "text": "Yeah. So it was like basically these"}, {"end": "01:32:35", "start": "01:32:28", "text": "Nazi scientists before World War II um"}, {"end": "01:32:40", "start": "01:32:32", "text": "and they developed this 432 frequency or"}, {"end": "01:32:42", "start": "01:32:35", "text": "432 hertz and basically um said that"}, {"end": "01:32:43", "start": "01:32:40", "text": "this is the new standard of Germany and"}, {"end": "01:32:46", "start": "01:32:42", "text": "then they brought it to I believe it was"}, {"end": "01:32:48", "start": "01:32:43", "text": "the UN or like whatever broadcasting"}, {"end": "01:32:52", "start": "01:32:46", "text": "corporation and they like the BBC were"}, {"end": "01:32:54", "start": "01:32:48", "text": "like some of the first to incorporate"}, {"end": "01:32:57", "start": "01:32:52", "text": "retuning their instruments doing all"}, {"end": "01:32:59", "start": "01:32:54", "text": "this to 432 hertz. Yeah. And I forget"}, {"end": "01:33:02", "start": "01:32:57", "text": "their reasoning for it. It"}, {"end": "01:33:04", "start": "01:32:59", "text": "is said to agitate the en enemy's"}, {"end": "01:33:06", "start": "01:33:02", "text": "brains. Okay. And then shortly after"}, {"end": "01:33:08", "start": "01:33:04", "text": "that, that's where you get World War II"}, {"end": "01:33:10", "start": "01:33:06", "text": "and all the world's in chaos and huh."}, {"end": "01:33:13", "start": "01:33:08", "text": "So, the way I heard it explained it was"}, {"end": "01:33:15", "start": "01:33:10", "text": "like the body is in a frequency. Like"}, {"end": "01:33:17", "start": "01:33:13", "text": "everyone, we're all vibrating. And so,"}, {"end": "01:33:19", "start": "01:33:15", "text": "if you put music out there or sound or"}, {"end": "01:33:23", "start": "01:33:17", "text": "whatever broadcast is in just enough"}, {"end": "01:33:25", "start": "01:33:19", "text": "dissonance, the person listening becomes"}, {"end": "01:33:27", "start": "01:33:23", "text": "more willing to do something to escape"}, {"end": "01:33:30", "start": "01:33:25", "text": "the dissonance that you've created. And"}, {"end": "01:33:31", "start": "01:33:27", "text": "so, you can kind of push them by"}, {"end": "01:33:34", "start": "01:33:30", "text": "creating putting them into that"}, {"end": "01:33:36", "start": "01:33:31", "text": "dissonant space. Interesting. Yeah. So,"}, {"end": "01:33:39", "start": "01:33:34", "text": "it's a tool to lead people out of that."}, {"end": "01:33:41", "start": "01:33:36", "text": "Sure. Yeah. I mean, we'll go with it."}, {"end": "01:33:45", "start": "01:33:39", "text": "Yeah. It's like my mom my mom with rap"}, {"end": "01:33:46", "start": "01:33:41", "text": "music. Same way. Yeah. All rap is at 432"}, {"end": "01:33:50", "start": "01:33:45", "text": "hertz for grant. What is this? The Nazis"}, {"end": "01:33:50", "start": "01:33:46", "text": "made it."}, {"end": "01:33:54", "start": "01:33:50", "text": "Oh, dude. That's crazy. Yeah. I love"}, {"end": "01:33:58", "start": "01:33:52", "text": "that stuff. What do you guys got any uh"}, {"end": "01:34:02", "start": "01:33:54", "text": "crazy stories from the band world, music"}, {"end": "01:34:05", "start": "01:33:58", "text": "world? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The crazy. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:34:07", "start": "01:34:02", "text": "Like a Do you have a spooky story? Is"}, {"end": "01:34:09", "start": "01:34:05", "text": "there anything crazy spooky that scared"}, {"end": "01:34:13", "start": "01:34:07", "text": "you? Um,"}, {"end": "01:34:16", "start": "01:34:09", "text": "spook not really. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:34:19", "start": "01:34:13", "text": "Uh, just put you on the spot. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "01:34:20", "start": "01:34:16", "text": "mean, I I was afraid of the dark most of"}, {"end": "01:34:23", "start": "01:34:19", "text": "my life. Like, I just don't like the"}, {"end": "01:34:25", "start": "01:34:20", "text": "dark. Something's something's out there."}, {"end": "01:34:28", "start": "01:34:23", "text": "I just don't know what it is. Yeah. I've"}, {"end": "01:34:30", "start": "01:34:25", "text": "never like"}, {"end": "01:34:31", "start": "01:34:28", "text": "seen anything. Sleep paralysis is the"}, {"end": "01:34:33", "start": "01:34:30", "text": "closest thing to an encounter I've ever"}, {"end": "01:34:35", "start": "01:34:31", "text": "had. And that is terrifying. That is"}, {"end": "01:34:37", "start": "01:34:33", "text": "terrifying. And it's like you can't"}, {"end": "01:34:39", "start": "01:34:35", "text": "explain it unless you've had it. And"}, {"end": "01:34:42", "start": "01:34:37", "text": "it's like there were voices. It's just a"}, {"end": "01:34:44", "start": "01:34:39", "text": "Did you see a shadow? I didn't. I felt"}, {"end": "01:34:46", "start": "01:34:42", "text": "something like literally I would turn my"}, {"end": "01:34:48", "start": "01:34:44", "text": "stuffed animals around when I was a kid."}, {"end": "01:34:50", "start": "01:34:46", "text": "Like they were looking at me like Chucky"}, {"end": "01:34:53", "start": "01:34:48", "text": "all that stuff like a Teddy Ruxman. I'd"}, {"end": "01:34:55", "start": "01:34:50", "text": "turn it around. Um so anytime I think"}, {"end": "01:34:57", "start": "01:34:53", "text": "something bad's happening, it's just I"}, {"end": "01:34:59", "start": "01:34:55", "text": "don't look at it. I look away from it."}, {"end": "01:35:00", "start": "01:34:57", "text": "Just cover my True that. So yeah. No,"}, {"end": "01:35:03", "start": "01:34:59", "text": "I'm not afraid of you. I've never seen"}, {"end": "01:35:06", "start": "01:35:00", "text": "anything. I have a gun. I would love to"}, {"end": "01:35:08", "start": "01:35:03", "text": "though. I would love to. I mean,"}, {"end": "01:35:10", "start": "01:35:06", "text": "experience something scary. Yeah. Oh,"}, {"end": "01:35:15", "start": "01:35:08", "text": "something real scary. Yeah. Like we did"}, {"end": "01:35:19", "start": "01:35:10", "text": "um what was the ghost thing that we did?"}, {"end": "01:35:22", "start": "01:35:15", "text": "We went up to to Was it"}, {"end": "01:35:24", "start": "01:35:19", "text": "the prison? The when we did the prison."}, {"end": "01:35:26", "start": "01:35:22", "text": "Oh, the tour thing. I didn't do the"}, {"end": "01:35:28", "start": "01:35:24", "text": "tour. You guys did the tour. Yeah. Uh"}, {"end": "01:35:31", "start": "01:35:26", "text": "incarceration. Incarceration. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:35:33", "start": "01:35:28", "text": "Yeah. They supposedly So incarceration"}, {"end": "01:35:36", "start": "01:35:31", "text": "is a Danny women festival. It's like a"}, {"end": "01:35:38", "start": "01:35:33", "text": "big radio fest and it's on the property"}, {"end": "01:35:40", "start": "01:35:36", "text": "of an old prison like the Shashank"}, {"end": "01:35:43", "start": "01:35:38", "text": "Redemption prison. That's that is a real"}, {"end": "01:35:46", "start": "01:35:40", "text": "prison and that's there. Like Lil Wayne"}, {"end": "01:35:48", "start": "01:35:43", "text": "shot a prison music video 24 karat gold"}, {"end": "01:35:50", "start": "01:35:46", "text": "toilet with him in like a cell. That"}, {"end": "01:35:52", "start": "01:35:48", "text": "cell's there. Like it's just an iconic"}, {"end": "01:35:56", "start": "01:35:50", "text": "thing. But they took us up to the top"}, {"end": "01:35:57", "start": "01:35:52", "text": "and they're like supposedly all this"}, {"end": "01:36:00", "start": "01:35:56", "text": "stuff happened and he's like you want to"}, {"end": "01:36:02", "start": "01:35:57", "text": "try it? And we're like, \"Yeah, like sit"}, {"end": "01:36:04", "start": "01:36:00", "text": "us in here. Black it out. Just say let"}, {"end": "01:36:06", "start": "01:36:02", "text": "us know like if there's anything here.\""}, {"end": "01:36:09", "start": "01:36:04", "text": "Like the whole nine yards. Gosh. And I'm"}, {"end": "01:36:11", "start": "01:36:06", "text": "in, dude. I'm trying to keep life crazy."}, {"end": "01:36:13", "start": "01:36:09", "text": "Just like throw a chair at me. Just"}, {"end": "01:36:15", "start": "01:36:11", "text": "something. Show me you're here. And"}, {"end": "01:36:18", "start": "01:36:13", "text": "nothing really happened. But it's like"}, {"end": "01:36:20", "start": "01:36:15", "text": "I'm all for it. Yeah. I love that stuff."}, {"end": "01:36:21", "start": "01:36:18", "text": "I know. And because it was dark, I was"}, {"end": "01:36:23", "start": "01:36:20", "text": "terrified already. But that was like"}, {"end": "01:36:24", "start": "01:36:21", "text": "that was like I know we've talked about"}, {"end": "01:36:25", "start": "01:36:23", "text": "this story too many times on the"}, {"end": "01:36:28", "start": "01:36:24", "text": "podcast, but that was like Andy's"}, {"end": "01:36:30", "start": "01:36:25", "text": "experience. He did a ghost tour and it's"}, {"end": "01:36:32", "start": "01:36:28", "text": "our first Halloween episode if anyone"}, {"end": "01:36:34", "start": "01:36:30", "text": "wants to go watch the full story. But"}, {"end": "01:36:35", "start": "01:36:32", "text": "long story short, he believed he was"}, {"end": "01:36:37", "start": "01:36:34", "text": "being pranked or something said"}, {"end": "01:36:39", "start": "01:36:35", "text": "something and then he tells a story on"}, {"end": "01:36:40", "start": "01:36:37", "text": "our podcast and there's a girl and you"}, {"end": "01:36:42", "start": "01:36:39", "text": "know she was there or whatever. Had a"}, {"end": "01:36:45", "start": "01:36:40", "text": "voice recording of it. Yeah. And it was"}, {"end": "01:36:46", "start": "01:36:42", "text": "like he was like my name's Keegan is"}, {"end": "01:36:48", "start": "01:36:45", "text": "what we were hearing. Like my name's"}, {"end": "01:36:49", "start": "01:36:46", "text": "Keegan. Yeah. It was like this, you"}, {"end": "01:36:51", "start": "01:36:48", "text": "know, reverbed out like he was in an"}, {"end": "01:36:52", "start": "01:36:49", "text": "empty room and supposedly they had an"}, {"end": "01:36:54", "start": "01:36:51", "text": "encounter. And anyways, he's telling the"}, {"end": "01:36:56", "start": "01:36:52", "text": "story and his punch line is this voice"}, {"end": "01:36:58", "start": "01:36:54", "text": "just saying something, but then when you"}, {"end": "01:37:00", "start": "01:36:56", "text": "put your headphones on and it's like"}, {"end": "01:37:02", "start": "01:36:58", "text": "isolated, like it's clearer and me and"}, {"end": "01:37:03", "start": "01:37:00", "text": "this other dude while he's showing it,"}, {"end": "01:37:05", "start": "01:37:02", "text": "we look at each other. We're like,"}, {"end": "01:37:06", "start": "01:37:03", "text": "\"Dude, that's that's not what it's"}, {"end": "01:37:09", "start": "01:37:05", "text": "saying.\" We're like, \"It's saying your"}, {"end": "01:37:11", "start": "01:37:06", "text": "name.\" It's like Andy Denoon. If you"}, {"end": "01:37:13", "start": "01:37:09", "text": "listen back and I was like, Andy talking"}, {"end": "01:37:15", "start": "01:37:11", "text": "about what's his name? And he's told"}, {"end": "01:37:17", "start": "01:37:13", "text": "that story for like the two years I'd"}, {"end": "01:37:19", "start": "01:37:15", "text": "known him and then tells it on the pod"}, {"end": "01:37:21", "start": "01:37:17", "text": "for the sake of the other guy. But I"}, {"end": "01:37:23", "start": "01:37:19", "text": "heard it and he looked at me and he said"}, {"end": "01:37:24", "start": "01:37:21", "text": "it first. But interesting. And then"}, {"end": "01:37:27", "start": "01:37:23", "text": "yeah, I think that was like the first"}, {"end": "01:37:29", "start": "01:37:24", "text": "time we played worship music. He was"}, {"end": "01:37:31", "start": "01:37:27", "text": "like blasting Christian radio. I was so"}, {"end": "01:37:33", "start": "01:37:29", "text": "scared. Even just thinking about it now"}, {"end": "01:37:34", "start": "01:37:31", "text": "just makes a pit my stomach. But there"}, {"end": "01:37:37", "start": "01:37:33", "text": "was there was a time we went and we were"}, {"end": "01:37:39", "start": "01:37:34", "text": "filming a tiny little short film thing"}, {"end": "01:37:41", "start": "01:37:37", "text": "at a uh um Missouri State Penitentiary."}, {"end": "01:37:43", "start": "01:37:39", "text": "Yeah. When I was in Joplin, we had gone"}, {"end": "01:37:45", "start": "01:37:41", "text": "up there and we like got it literally"}, {"end": "01:37:47", "start": "01:37:43", "text": "open to us and they're like, \"We'll take"}, {"end": "01:37:49", "start": "01:37:45", "text": "you through a tour.\" But that stuff"}, {"end": "01:37:50", "start": "01:37:47", "text": "right there, that was they would take"}, {"end": "01:37:53", "start": "01:37:49", "text": "you down like there was a regular levels"}, {"end": "01:37:54", "start": "01:37:50", "text": "and then there was the bottom levels, no"}, {"end": "01:37:57", "start": "01:37:53", "text": "lights, anything at all. And you would"}, {"end": "01:37:59", "start": "01:37:54", "text": "just hear stories all the time and you"}, {"end": "01:38:01", "start": "01:37:57", "text": "just feel something like there's just it"}, {"end": "01:38:02", "start": "01:37:59", "text": "just feels heavy and maybe it's on our"}, {"end": "01:38:04", "start": "01:38:01", "text": "mind, but I don't know, man. It's just"}, {"end": "01:38:05", "start": "01:38:02", "text": "So you guys are talking about it seems"}, {"end": "01:38:07", "start": "01:38:04", "text": "like where you guys are at personally"}, {"end": "01:38:10", "start": "01:38:05", "text": "like faith-wise is not even close to"}, {"end": "01:38:14", "start": "01:38:07", "text": "where we're at. So, if you're in a spot"}, {"end": "01:38:16", "start": "01:38:10", "text": "where you have a specific faith that"}, {"end": "01:38:18", "start": "01:38:14", "text": "we'll call Western Christianity and"}, {"end": "01:38:21", "start": "01:38:16", "text": "you're like all in, do you do you look"}, {"end": "01:38:24", "start": "01:38:18", "text": "at that stuff as like demons or are"}, {"end": "01:38:26", "start": "01:38:21", "text": "there demons, bad spirits, and aliens"}, {"end": "01:38:28", "start": "01:38:24", "text": "and Sasquatch? The way I land or is it"}, {"end": "01:38:30", "start": "01:38:26", "text": "just good and evil? Is it a binary? This"}, {"end": "01:38:32", "start": "01:38:28", "text": "is the devil's people. This is God's"}, {"end": "01:38:35", "start": "01:38:30", "text": "people. I think there I think it is a"}, {"end": "01:38:37", "start": "01:38:32", "text": "clear good and evil. Yeah. Um, but I"}, {"end": "01:38:39", "start": "01:38:35", "text": "don't when people say, \"Oh, all aliens"}, {"end": "01:38:41", "start": "01:38:37", "text": "are demons.\" I'm like, I don't buy into"}, {"end": "01:38:43", "start": "01:38:39", "text": "that. I mean, because I I I have like a"}, {"end": "01:38:45", "start": "01:38:41", "text": "from the book of Enoch, it talks about"}, {"end": "01:38:47", "start": "01:38:43", "text": "like kind of gives it not saying the"}, {"end": "01:38:50", "start": "01:38:45", "text": "book of Enoch is scriptural like or God"}, {"end": "01:38:52", "start": "01:38:47", "text": "inspired. It could be, don't know. Um,"}, {"end": "01:38:54", "start": "01:38:50", "text": "but it talks about the Nephilim like"}, {"end": "01:38:56", "start": "01:38:52", "text": "when they died like the giants from the"}, {"end": "01:39:00", "start": "01:38:54", "text": "New Testament or Old Testament when they"}, {"end": "01:39:03", "start": "01:38:56", "text": "died their dispodied disembodied spirits"}, {"end": "01:39:05", "start": "01:39:00", "text": "are the demons. H. And so I'm like,"}, {"end": "01:39:06", "start": "01:39:03", "text": "\"Okay, then like what are aliens?\" I"}, {"end": "01:39:08", "start": "01:39:05", "text": "don't know what aliens are. I think"}, {"end": "01:39:10", "start": "01:39:06", "text": "there's"}, {"end": "01:39:11", "start": "01:39:08", "text": "good ones and bad ones. And I'm just"}, {"end": "01:39:14", "start": "01:39:10", "text": "thinking that just in the context of"}, {"end": "01:39:15", "start": "01:39:11", "text": "like heavenly creatures. Like when you"}, {"end": "01:39:18", "start": "01:39:14", "text": "read the Old Testament, like when a"}, {"end": "01:39:20", "start": "01:39:15", "text": "cherubam or saraphim would appear in"}, {"end": "01:39:21", "start": "01:39:18", "text": "front of a prophet, they would drop to"}, {"end": "01:39:24", "start": "01:39:20", "text": "their face thinking that they were about"}, {"end": "01:39:26", "start": "01:39:21", "text": "to die. Like it it did cause fear. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:39:29", "start": "01:39:24", "text": "But then it says, \"Do not be afraid.\" It"}, {"end": "01:39:30", "start": "01:39:26", "text": "was all at like 432 hertz, baby. Oh"}, {"end": "01:39:33", "start": "01:39:29", "text": "yeah."}, {"end": "01:39:37", "start": "01:39:30", "text": "Um, so yeah, I think it is a good and"}, {"end": "01:39:39", "start": "01:39:33", "text": "evil Bigfoot. Not sure. I think he is an"}, {"end": "01:39:42", "start": "01:39:37", "text": "interdimensional being as well though."}, {"end": "01:39:44", "start": "01:39:39", "text": "That's biology. Like big gorilla or"}, {"end": "01:39:46", "start": "01:39:42", "text": "whatever humanoid. Just just one just"}, {"end": "01:39:49", "start": "01:39:44", "text": "one Bigfoot. No, I think there's a lot."}, {"end": "01:39:52", "start": "01:39:46", "text": "No, he has two big feet. Yeah, just"}, {"end": "01:39:55", "start": "01:39:49", "text": "hopping. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah,"}, {"end": "01:39:58", "start": "01:39:52", "text": "cuz it's like trying to put it try. So,"}, {"end": "01:40:00", "start": "01:39:55", "text": "how do you reconcile that? Oh, it's how"}, {"end": "01:40:02", "start": "01:39:58", "text": "do you have a conspiracy theory podcast"}, {"end": "01:40:04", "start": "01:40:00", "text": "but then also believe that there is an"}, {"end": "01:40:05", "start": "01:40:02", "text": "order and like everything technically"}, {"end": "01:40:08", "start": "01:40:04", "text": "that you need to know about being here"}, {"end": "01:40:09", "start": "01:40:05", "text": "is in a book. Like how do how do you"}, {"end": "01:40:12", "start": "01:40:08", "text": "then play outside of those lines without"}, {"end": "01:40:16", "start": "01:40:09", "text": "it possibly contradicting or even"}, {"end": "01:40:19", "start": "01:40:12", "text": "pressuring like a question? I am I'm so"}, {"end": "01:40:21", "start": "01:40:16", "text": "open to being corrected and like because"}, {"end": "01:40:26", "start": "01:40:19", "text": "I know I'm wrong about a lot of stuff."}, {"end": "01:40:28", "start": "01:40:21", "text": "Yeah. But I basically I think we all do."}, {"end": "01:40:30", "start": "01:40:26", "text": "I know we all do. We our plum line is"}, {"end": "01:40:33", "start": "01:40:28", "text": "scripture and it's like holding on to"}, {"end": "01:40:35", "start": "01:40:30", "text": "the one truth that Jesus is Lord and"}, {"end": "01:40:37", "start": "01:40:33", "text": "that he died for us and that is the only"}, {"end": "01:40:40", "start": "01:40:35", "text": "way to salvation and everything else is"}, {"end": "01:40:41", "start": "01:40:37", "text": "just kind of a mystery. Yeah. And it's"}, {"end": "01:40:43", "start": "01:40:40", "text": "okay for it to remain a mystery, but"}, {"end": "01:40:45", "start": "01:40:41", "text": "it's also fun to talk about what could"}, {"end": "01:40:47", "start": "01:40:43", "text": "this mystery be. Sure. I think that's"}, {"end": "01:40:49", "start": "01:40:45", "text": "where we Yeah. Yeah. And it may not"}, {"end": "01:40:50", "start": "01:40:47", "text": "change anything, but the anchor is"}, {"end": "01:40:52", "start": "01:40:49", "text": "Jesus. And so that was that's kind of my"}, {"end": "01:40:54", "start": "01:40:50", "text": "thing where it's like I it gets me so"}, {"end": "01:40:56", "start": "01:40:52", "text": "because I I can't imagine how afraid I"}, {"end": "01:40:58", "start": "01:40:54", "text": "would be. I'm already afraid and I have"}, {"end": "01:41:00", "start": "01:40:56", "text": "Jesus in my heart and I talk about all"}, {"end": "01:41:02", "start": "01:40:58", "text": "these things. If I didn't have that, it"}, {"end": "01:41:04", "start": "01:41:00", "text": "would just I think I would be so to me"}, {"end": "01:41:07", "start": "01:41:02", "text": "personally break so lost. Yeah. It would"}, {"end": "01:41:09", "start": "01:41:04", "text": "it's and just knowing he's the truth."}, {"end": "01:41:10", "start": "01:41:07", "text": "And so that's the thing. It's just we're"}, {"end": "01:41:11", "start": "01:41:09", "text": "able to explore that. We're able to ask"}, {"end": "01:41:13", "start": "01:41:10", "text": "questions and I think there's good"}, {"end": "01:41:17", "start": "01:41:11", "text": "goodness in that curiosity and that"}, {"end": "01:41:19", "start": "01:41:13", "text": "wonder of whatever aspects. But it's fun"}, {"end": "01:41:22", "start": "01:41:17", "text": "to talk about. Oh, it's super fun. I I"}, {"end": "01:41:23", "start": "01:41:19", "text": "approached it all as a gnarly skeptic."}, {"end": "01:41:25", "start": "01:41:22", "text": "Like when we started this thing one, I"}, {"end": "01:41:26", "start": "01:41:23", "text": "didn't listen to podcasts and Josh was"}, {"end": "01:41:28", "start": "01:41:25", "text": "like, \"Hey, we're starting a podcast, so"}, {"end": "01:41:29", "start": "01:41:26", "text": "you should figure out how to do that as"}, {"end": "01:41:32", "start": "01:41:28", "text": "our editor.\" Yeah. I mean, really, it's"}, {"end": "01:41:34", "start": "01:41:29", "text": "how it happened. Um, but I'm like I I'm"}, {"end": "01:41:36", "start": "01:41:32", "text": "an ordained pastor. I like approach"}, {"end": "01:41:38", "start": "01:41:34", "text": "things like very like, you know, kind of"}, {"end": "01:41:39", "start": "01:41:36", "text": "cut and dry. And then as I'm like"}, {"end": "01:41:42", "start": "01:41:38", "text": "editing these reels, I'm like"}, {"end": "01:41:44", "start": "01:41:39", "text": "researching stuff to find supplemental,"}, {"end": "01:41:46", "start": "01:41:42", "text": "you know, even just a picture. And then"}, {"end": "01:41:49", "start": "01:41:44", "text": "I'm like, \"Oh, shoot. There is a verse"}, {"end": "01:41:50", "start": "01:41:46", "text": "that references this thing in Enoch and"}, {"end": "01:41:52", "start": "01:41:49", "text": "it actually makes sense.\" Or when you"}, {"end": "01:41:54", "start": "01:41:50", "text": "look at like stories about, you know,"}, {"end": "01:41:57", "start": "01:41:52", "text": "Genesis 6 just has this random little"}, {"end": "01:42:00", "start": "01:41:54", "text": "blip where it talks about these angels"}, {"end": "01:42:02", "start": "01:41:57", "text": "fell or these watchers fell and then"}, {"end": "01:42:04", "start": "01:42:00", "text": "they what happened to those people? Then"}, {"end": "01:42:06", "start": "01:42:02", "text": "you look at why were these people all"}, {"end": "01:42:07", "start": "01:42:04", "text": "wiped off the face of the earth? Well,"}, {"end": "01:42:09", "start": "01:42:06", "text": "you when you look at this narrative,"}, {"end": "01:42:11", "start": "01:42:07", "text": "there was like this intermingling. They"}, {"end": "01:42:13", "start": "01:42:09", "text": "call it the seed war. Anyways, long"}, {"end": "01:42:16", "start": "01:42:11", "text": "story short, the more I was like trying"}, {"end": "01:42:19", "start": "01:42:13", "text": "to argue in my head. Yeah. It was like"}, {"end": "01:42:21", "start": "01:42:16", "text": "the weirder you get with it, the more"}, {"end": "01:42:23", "start": "01:42:19", "text": "stuff that were just like questions"}, {"end": "01:42:25", "start": "01:42:21", "text": "swept under the rug start to actually"}, {"end": "01:42:27", "start": "01:42:23", "text": "make sense, which is which is the"}, {"end": "01:42:30", "start": "01:42:25", "text": "craziest thing. You would think the"}, {"end": "01:42:31", "start": "01:42:27", "text": "weirder you get, the further from like"}, {"end": "01:42:33", "start": "01:42:30", "text": "text you would go, but it's actually"}, {"end": "01:42:35", "start": "01:42:31", "text": "like bringing my head closer to it."}, {"end": "01:42:38", "start": "01:42:33", "text": "Yeah. So, it's interesting. And just"}, {"end": "01:42:41", "start": "01:42:35", "text": "from our research and stuff, I say"}, {"end": "01:42:44", "start": "01:42:38", "text": "research very loosely, but um just you"}, {"end": "01:42:46", "start": "01:42:41", "text": "see the connections throughout human"}, {"end": "01:42:48", "start": "01:42:44", "text": "history of like talking about the seven"}, {"end": "01:42:50", "start": "01:42:46", "text": "watchers and then like the Native"}, {"end": "01:42:52", "start": "01:42:48", "text": "Americans talked about the star people"}, {"end": "01:42:54", "start": "01:42:50", "text": "and then yeah, seven grandfathers. Seven"}, {"end": "01:42:57", "start": "01:42:52", "text": "grandfathers and like there's and then"}, {"end": "01:42:58", "start": "01:42:54", "text": "giants are in every culture in the"}, {"end": "01:43:01", "start": "01:42:57", "text": "world. They always talk about giants and"}, {"end": "01:43:03", "start": "01:42:58", "text": "how they are evil or this or that. And"}, {"end": "01:43:05", "start": "01:43:01", "text": "then everyone has a flood narrative too,"}, {"end": "01:43:08", "start": "01:43:03", "text": "you know. And it's like to me it's like"}, {"end": "01:43:10", "start": "01:43:05", "text": "and every god sent his son like everyone"}, {"end": "01:43:12", "start": "01:43:08", "text": "that whole"}, {"end": "01:43:15", "start": "01:43:10", "text": "model has been around thousands of years"}, {"end": "01:43:17", "start": "01:43:12", "text": "before theoretically Christianity came"}, {"end": "01:43:19", "start": "01:43:15", "text": "up with the right version. 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And so, and it's just wild how"}, {"end": "01:44:21", "start": "01:44:18", "text": "like all we have all these biblical"}, {"end": "01:44:23", "start": "01:44:19", "text": "conspiracies that have been confirmed"}, {"end": "01:44:25", "start": "01:44:21", "text": "thousands of years before it ever"}, {"end": "01:44:26", "start": "01:44:23", "text": "happened and different nations that have"}, {"end": "01:44:28", "start": "01:44:25", "text": "never had contact with one another"}, {"end": "01:44:30", "start": "01:44:26", "text": "somehow having all these weird"}, {"end": "01:44:32", "start": "01:44:28", "text": "mysteries, these conspiracies, these"}, {"end": "01:44:34", "start": "01:44:30", "text": "ancient stories of all these things."}, {"end": "01:44:36", "start": "01:44:32", "text": "Yeah. And yet we see atheists who are"}, {"end": "01:44:38", "start": "01:44:34", "text": "conspiracy theorists that come to godly."}, {"end": "01:44:40", "start": "01:44:36", "text": "I mean, even like Sam Tripley, like that"}, {"end": "01:44:42", "start": "01:44:38", "text": "comedian, he's he was not a believer,"}, {"end": "01:44:44", "start": "01:44:40", "text": "but then he it's all that that famous"}, {"end": "01:44:47", "start": "01:44:42", "text": "phrase where all conspiracies lead to"}, {"end": "01:44:49", "start": "01:44:44", "text": "lead to God. like it's somehow all of"}, {"end": "01:44:51", "start": "01:44:47", "text": "this points to the what mystery and it's"}, {"end": "01:44:53", "start": "01:44:49", "text": "like oh this could be the only answer."}, {"end": "01:44:56", "start": "01:44:51", "text": "This is it. And so that's the that's the"}, {"end": "01:44:57", "start": "01:44:53", "text": "thing for me. It's all it's God just"}, {"end": "01:44:59", "start": "01:44:56", "text": "allows us to be able to have that free"}, {"end": "01:45:00", "start": "01:44:57", "text": "will of just understanding you you can"}, {"end": "01:45:02", "start": "01:44:59", "text": "do whatever you want. Everything is"}, {"end": "01:45:04", "start": "01:45:00", "text": "permissive but not everything is"}, {"end": "01:45:07", "start": "01:45:02", "text": "beneficial. Yeah. And so I I don't know."}, {"end": "01:45:08", "start": "01:45:04", "text": "It's just such a it's it's exciting. I"}, {"end": "01:45:11", "start": "01:45:07", "text": "don't know. It's such a cool place that"}, {"end": "01:45:13", "start": "01:45:08", "text": "we have the ability to even discuss"}, {"end": "01:45:15", "start": "01:45:11", "text": "that. Yeah. And be able to think about"}, {"end": "01:45:17", "start": "01:45:13", "text": "what we want. And it's a shame that for"}, {"end": "01:45:19", "start": "01:45:15", "text": "years it just wasn't okay to talk about"}, {"end": "01:45:22", "start": "01:45:17", "text": "stuff like CS Lewis. I think it's called"}, {"end": "01:45:24", "start": "01:45:19", "text": "religion and rocketry. He has an essay"}, {"end": "01:45:26", "start": "01:45:22", "text": "talking about the possibility of alien"}, {"end": "01:45:28", "start": "01:45:24", "text": "life and how that would fit into the"}, {"end": "01:45:30", "start": "01:45:26", "text": "biblical narrative. But like you never"}, {"end": "01:45:33", "start": "01:45:28", "text": "hear anyone from the church talking"}, {"end": "01:45:37", "start": "01:45:30", "text": "about CS's CS Lewis's work on CS's"}, {"end": "01:45:38", "start": "01:45:33", "text": "Lewis. CS is Mr. Plural. Yeah. But I"}, {"end": "01:45:40", "start": "01:45:37", "text": "mean like you never hear anyone talk"}, {"end": "01:45:41", "start": "01:45:38", "text": "about that. But like that dude like"}, {"end": "01:45:43", "start": "01:45:40", "text": "everyone references the rest of his"}, {"end": "01:45:45", "start": "01:45:41", "text": "work, but he was like it could exist. He"}, {"end": "01:45:48", "start": "01:45:43", "text": "actually argues that an alien species"}, {"end": "01:45:51", "start": "01:45:45", "text": "might not have needed redemption cuz"}, {"end": "01:45:53", "start": "01:45:48", "text": "they were wholly good and didn't need a"}, {"end": "01:45:55", "start": "01:45:51", "text": "savior. But in that work, it's"}, {"end": "01:45:57", "start": "01:45:53", "text": "interesting. Weird stuff. Weird stuff."}, {"end": "01:45:58", "start": "01:45:55", "text": "Weird stuff. And we get We're all going"}, {"end": "01:46:01", "start": "01:45:57", "text": "to die. And we're all going to die."}, {"end": "01:46:04", "start": "01:45:58", "text": "That's the motto of today. Kids, say it"}, {"end": "01:46:07", "start": "01:46:01", "text": "with us. We're all going to die. Drink"}, {"end": "01:46:08", "start": "01:46:04", "text": "Magic Mine while you're alive."}, {"end": "01:46:10", "start": "01:46:07", "text": "Perfect. Hey, we want to Are you guys"}, {"end": "01:46:11", "start": "01:46:08", "text": "cool if we do a Patreon episode"}, {"end": "01:46:14", "start": "01:46:10", "text": "immediately after this? Just real quick."}, {"end": "01:46:16", "start": "01:46:11", "text": "It'll be not not a long one. Sure. Cool."}, {"end": "01:46:18", "start": "01:46:14", "text": "I want to talk more about Under oath."}, {"end": "01:46:19", "start": "01:46:16", "text": "They have some really epic poop stories."}, {"end": "01:46:22", "start": "01:46:18", "text": "Oh, yes. They were teasing it earlier."}, {"end": "01:46:24", "start": "01:46:19", "text": "So, you guys got those, right? Epic epic"}, {"end": "01:46:25", "start": "01:46:22", "text": "epic. The key word because they were"}, {"end": "01:46:26", "start": "01:46:24", "text": "like they weren't giving the stories"}, {"end": "01:46:27", "start": "01:46:25", "text": "away. So, I was like, \"You guys have"}, {"end": "01:46:30", "start": "01:46:26", "text": "poop stories, right?\" And they're like,"}, {"end": "01:46:31", "start": "01:46:27", "text": "\"Yeah, you remember Minnesota 06?\" Like,"}, {"end": "01:46:32", "start": "01:46:30", "text": "or like they're just like the key like"}, {"end": "01:46:35", "start": "01:46:31", "text": "it was just Yeah. You remember the"}, {"end": "01:46:36", "start": "01:46:32", "text": "bathroom with that one? Heck yeah. All"}, {"end": "01:46:38", "start": "01:46:35", "text": "right. 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So like the best college player"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "coming out and it's supposed to keep"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "everybody competitive and trying hard."}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "Well, this this comes out in 1985 and"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "they had a uh there's always the big"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "theory here is that they cheat at the"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "draft lottery. They sort of"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "strategically pick what player they want"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "to go on what team. And the 1985 clip,"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "did you send it to everybody? So, it's"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "the first minute of this clip and it's"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "so great to me because it's the it's the"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "NBA commissioner at the time, David"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "Stern. He rolls this big like bingo"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "roller thing essentially. And uh there's"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "a longer clip. This was like the best"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "one I could find where he he just"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "reaches in, grabs an envelope, opens it"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "up, and it says, you know, whatever"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "Atlanta Hawks. He opens up one, it says,"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "you know, Los Angeles Lakers. And then"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "he gets to the to the deciding the first"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "overall pick and he reaches in and you"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "can see him grab a bunch and then he"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "turns it over and he grabs one"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "specifically and he pulls it out and"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "it's the New York Knicks and the player"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "coming out that year was Patrick Euing"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "who would go on to be like a top 50"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "alltime NBA player in one of their"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "biggest markets which was New York. So"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "just recently the Dallas Maverick team"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "did this trade where they traded Luca"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "Donuch to the Lakers. Dallas is a pretty"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "huge market for the NBA. the team kind"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "of started falling apart towards the end"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "of the year. Wouldn't you know it, who"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "won the NBA draft lottery with a"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "1.4% chance of winning it, by the way,"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "is the Dallas Mavericks this year. Who"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "get it's rigged this guy Cooper flag."}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "But this clip specifically, I think is"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "so good because now they do it all"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "digit. It's all like refined and you're"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "like, what are we going to do? The balls"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "bounce this way. But this clip is like"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "iconic to me. And I do think it's kind"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "of hard to find for a reason because"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "it's it's such a bad look cuz he you can"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "see him the the theory on this"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "particular one is they froze that"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "envelope. They put it in a freezer all"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "night. Oh. And then they put it in this"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "thing. So he was like you can see him"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "reach and like kind of go like, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "there it is.\" And he like shifts all"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "these envelopes and goes, \"I picked this"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "one.\" And there you go. The best player"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "goes to the next way. All right. Ready?"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Three, two, one. Was the fix in for the"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "lottery? No, it's ridiculous, but that's"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "okay. I I know I know that you think"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "it's ridiculous, but I don't think the"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "question is ridiculous because I know"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "people think that. Patrick, you doing"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "this? Uh, what did you know about the"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "possibility of that 85 lottery being"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "fixed? You know that it was fixed. It"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "was a cold envelope. It was a pitch"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "envelope. It was different. Something uh"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "to further mix the envelopes and then I"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "will conduct the drawers."}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "That is also stuff isn't shuffling."}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "Okay, there it goes. NBA. The first time"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "it was just Yeah. Yeah. about six turns."}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "He looks nervous like he's Yeah, he did."}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "The team whose logo is in this envelope"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "will have the first pick in the NBA"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "draft."}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "That seemed pretty obvious. It's like"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "he's"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "like there's the one. He seemed nervous"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "to do it. Yeah. You see, he had to be"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "see the exhale. He goes, \"You're"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "cheating on live television.\" Actal to"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "millions of people for the rest of"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "history. You're changing history. So the"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "Patrick Yuing was bad. This year is very"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "And then when LeBron James came out,"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "he's from Cleveland. They were like,"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "\"Oh, Cleveland got the number one pick."}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "That worked out so good.\""}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "Interesting. So they're working not so"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "specifically for the teams. Obviously"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "that comes down, but they're thinking"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "what's the best for for the association"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "to keep the like storylines in the right"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "way and the and keep the and I know"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "Dallas's trade came out of nowhere. So"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "shady after Cuban got rid of the"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "franchise and I think I mean the fan"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "base was so mad. This was the only way"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "to save it, right? Ratings are terrible"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "across the NBA, mind you at this time."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "Uh LeBron James is like wearing out."}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "Steph Curry is like wearing out like"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "human beings do. Americans, we hold on"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "to professional athletes. Like over in"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "Europe, like in like soccer, you're like"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "28 years old and they put you on the"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "iceberg and kick you out into the ocean."}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "Here, they're like 34 and we're like,"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "\"Come on, Steph. Come on, baby. Hey"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "there, buddy. Give us all you got.\" So,"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "yeah. Then all of a sudden, Luca, who"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "he's like just this generational talent,"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "gets shipped off to the Lakers for like"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "the weirdest trade of all time. Then"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "there's also all this weird stuff with"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "that um with the arena they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "build there because the people that own"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "the Mavs want a uh casino. They want an"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "arena casino like combo. And so there"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "was like there's just a lot of talk"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "about what went on and led to all this."}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "And this was sort of the piece that was"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "like we were missing was like what did"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "the what did Dallas get out of this?"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "Yeah. Lo and behold 1.8 chance% chance"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "of winning the lottery and they get"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "Cooper flag. Anytime there's that much"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "money involved, there's no way people"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "who have built businesses to generate"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "that kind of revenue are chancing that"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "much money. Yeah. Have you seen like I"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "don't want to turn this into a sports"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "podcast, but like you see the Barcelona"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "Real Madrid I mean like in the Champions"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "League uh Barca just got eliminated and"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "we all were saying that was clearly"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "rigged like the refs were making bad"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "calls. Oh, I did see this. Then they"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "fired the ref. He was supposed to ref"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "the final and after we got eliminated,"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "we as in Barca, uh they fired him and"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "then the next game in La Liga, we beat"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "Real Madrid 4-3, but there were three"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "goals. Clear handball, fouls, all three"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "of their goals, but it's because they"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "want to keep El\u00e1ico, the rivalry. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "If the if Real Madrid is clearly like"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "four games worse or"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "clip it."}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Yeah. No, it's bad. Like there's an NBA"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "ref that like actually was fixing games."}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "He's like convicted. Like it's and it's"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "over. They solved the case. Scooby-Doo"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "solved it. He was cheating. This is what"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "I tell my kids. Just don't watch sports."}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "Don't don't do sports. No. Because it'll"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "just lead to corruption. Yeah. You know,"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "or fame"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "unfortuned somebody. That's true. That's"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "a good point. Yeah, you're right. Ninjas"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "are butterflies."}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "Did I say ninja? I meant butterfly. The"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "butterfly is no doubt one of"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "God's empty your mind. You were martial"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "arts. [\u00a0__\u00a0] Joseph."}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "The Eucharistic miracle of Buenosares"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "August 18th, 1996 in this one church in"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "Buenosares, Argentina. Someone found the"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "consecrated host or communion like the"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "bread part. And the way to dispose of"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "that cuz it's been blessed, you know,"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "took it and he placed it in a cup of"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "water basically and put it back into the"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "tabernacle. Then on August 26th, 30 days"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "later, he opened it up and what he saw"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "was the consecrated host, the bread"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "looked like it had blood on it and it"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "had not dissolved at all. And he's like,"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "\"What in the world?\" And so he brought"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "in Jorge, who is Pope Francis. He showed"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "him on September 6th, Pope Francis was"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "basically like, \"Take pictures of it,"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "document it, cuz this is crazy.\" Cuz it"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "wasn't dissolving. If anything, it was"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "actually looking like it was growing and"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "like turning into flesh. Flesh. So they"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "sent it to this guy, Dr. Frederick in"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "New York and he examined the sample and"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "concluded that it was human heart muscle"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "tissue. He ran the blood type and the"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "blood type it was a AB blood. What is a"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "crazy coincidence is AB blood is also"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "the same blood type that was found in"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "the shrouded touring. Shut up right now."}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "It's not been disproven ever but the"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "Vatican has also never made an official"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "statement on it. That's so scary. I"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "literally were taking communion"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "yesterday. that just runs through my"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "mind of the Eucharist and all that stuff"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "and that like it actually turning into"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "flesh and like that stuff like that like"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "don't love that. It's just something"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "like there's something supernatural"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "about it and I that takes it to a whole"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "other"}]

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I"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "think a lot of that um we'd have to go"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "back to that that chart and see exactly"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "where is China today, where were they"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "before in terms of per capita, but I"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "think a lot of that production, the"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "doubling of their grid relative to our"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "grid, a lot of that's gone into"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "manufacturing."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "And so, you know, we've shifted"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "manufacturing from the US to overseas. A"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "lot of that's in China now. We've let"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "them do it. You know, a big part of that"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "people thought was, well, Chinese labor"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "is much cheaper, but a lot of these"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "processes can be automated. And so once"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "you automate it, it just comes back to"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "energy cost. And so China said, let's"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "let's double our grid. Let's let's keep"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "going. Let's work on tripling our grid."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "And we'll do it in the cheapest way"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "possible because we want to win on"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "manufacturing and get all this economic"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "activity over here. Meanwhile, the US"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "has said"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "um you know we have a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "regulations which are good and probably"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "some that are unnecessary and have"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "slowed us down and so we haven't done"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "the growth and you know we've been very"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "thoughtful about um emissions"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "environmental impact carbon. Meanwhile,"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "China's doubling tripling their grid and"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "has done a lot of that with coal. And so"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "we've shifted manufacturing here that"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "would have been cleaner"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "uh over there and just probably ended up"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "net producing more carbon than um than"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "we would have, more pollutants than we"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "would have and just kind of outsourced"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "that. But as we know, carbon flows"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "everywhere. So if you're really worried"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "about carbon emissions, letting China"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "double their grid with coal and move"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "manufacturing, energy intensive"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "manufacturing there is not actually the"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "answer. The answer is the US has to"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "unblock building here, doing industrial"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "activity, do it cleanly, do it with"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "nuclear or other sources, even natural"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "gas, half the carbon emissions of coal,"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "and the world would be way better off."}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "And so I think their grid doubling"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "hasn't just meant that everyone there"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "has a better quality of life. I think it"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "just means that we've taken a lot of"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "manufacturing from here and done it over"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "there. Gotcha. Gotcha. Do you have any"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "insight on from a consumer standpoint"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "just a household how"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "what kind of energy prices can we expect"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "you know when this by 2030"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "it's going to depend a lot on what we"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "how we implement all this so you have"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "huge variation between states so I think"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "a lot of it comes down to regulation"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "okay so you know some states"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "you know you've got retail electricity"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "costs in in the single-digit sense."}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "California, I think you can get into the"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "30s. So between states, you can be"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "triple. So clearly that's not technology"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "driven, that's regul regulatory driven."}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "And so I think a a lot of how this plays"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "out is going to be what do we do on the"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "regulatory side? We have cheap sources"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "of energy. People could have them. You"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "know, the grid is currently capable of"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "shipping electricity to people's homes"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "at the level that we consume them,"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "consume electricity."}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "So, with net new sources coming on the"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "grid, it should get cheaper,"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "but that's going to depend on"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "a lot of different factors. Um, it's"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "going to depend on"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "who sets the rates. Um,"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "how electricity is priced? Do you have"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "some infrastructure costs and then some"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "generation costs? So, se will there be"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "separation of transmission and"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "generation costs everywhere? Um, what is"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "the balance between those two? How much"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "are we paying for the transmission? and"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "how much are we paying for the"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "generation? Um, there were some shifts"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "in that in California where it was more"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "bundled and as people did more and more"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "rooftop solar, I think it was separated"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "because the utilities were having a"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "harder time paying for their existing"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "infrastructure. And so how that all goes"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "in each state is going to be the real"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "driver. think I think we have the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "ability to produce as much electricity"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "as we want um through all these"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "different methods but how that actually"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "makes its way to people's homes depends"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "on state level and federal level policy"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "as well as as well as things like uh"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "NEPA which is the environmental regime"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "for"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "um standardizing a lot of these federal"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "approvals on large scale infrastructure"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "projects um which which has slowed down"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "things like new transmission lines"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "And so the degree to which that gets"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "reformed or looked at or how can we"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "still have all the safety that we that"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "we always had that we want the envir"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "environmental protections but how can we"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "streamline this to help things go"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "faster. I think you're going to you know"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "big big picture you've got two curves."}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "You've got the demand curve and you've"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "got the supply curve. And if the demand"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "curve for electricity, whether it's AI"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "data centers or people's homes, starts"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "really outpacing supply, that's when"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "prices go up. 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One little"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "1-in pellet is equivalent to a ton of"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "coal or 100 barrels of oil."}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "The US currently does not have a"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "significant amount of uranium enrichment"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "or fuel production. So the US US cannot"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "currently produce its own nuclear fuel"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "in any quantity beyond R&D quantities."}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "Are you serious?"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "So where do we get it from? So currently"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "we uh we get all of our So there's five"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "steps in making fuel. 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So that's uh we"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "get we get enriched uranium product from"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "Russia, from France and from a European"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "consortium of a couple countries that"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "produce. And then that consortium at the"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "request of US utilities built a facility"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "in the US to produce some of what we"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "need but it's still less than a third."}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "So 2/3 comes from overseas one/3"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "produced by foreign a foreign company in"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "the US using their technology. And then"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "on the on the downstream side of making"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "the pellets,"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "good capability in the US for doing that"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "right now. Some of the more advanced uh"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "forms of like little pellets that are"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "maybe poppy poppy seed size called"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "trico. It's got some ceramic coatings"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "around it that Did you say poppy seed"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "size? Yeah, they're poppy seed size. So,"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "um to get into the details of some of"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "the fuel forms, there was a type of fuel"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "that was developed decades ago and"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "tested for a really long time. Um, so"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "it's it's been proven to be really"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "robust, but you take a tiny piece of"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "uranium and you coat it with ceramic."}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "And that ceramic means that even in the"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "worst case scenario where your reactor"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "somehow disintegrates, these little"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "pellets are self-contained. So they"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "can't even release any radioactive gas."}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "So it's another layer of safety on top."}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "So a bunch of the advanced reactor types"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "are doing that. But if we zoom out, you"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "know, for to really have domestic"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "capability, you need all the steps. And"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "so the step that's missing right now is"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "enrichment."}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "And that's why we're working on"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "enrichment. Why why don't we have"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "enrichment right now? 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Um"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "these these things are usually it's you"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "know it's usually over constrained."}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "There's a bunch of reasons why we got"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "here. We didn't think we needed it. We"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "thought maybe nuclear isn't growing"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "anymore. It's fine. We have these"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "reactors. Up until a couple years there"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "wasn't agreement that we needed more"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "reactors."}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "And so why build a bunch of new capacity"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "in the US for enriching if we're not"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "going to build a b bunch more reactors?"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "We can just get this stuff from we can"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "get enriched uranium from our allies in"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "Europe and you know other countries as"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "well. And if you rewind to the history"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "of this in the 50s the US built a bunch"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "of enrichment. This was you know cold"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "war era. We were the world leader in"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "enrichment. We had these plants spread"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "out throughout the country that used an"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "old technique that was expensive. It was"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "required a lot of energy to do it, but"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "we were we had the most capacity and we"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "built up a lot of enriched uranium that"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "we stockpiled. And those stockpiles, we"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "knew they would last a really long time,"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "you know, decades and decades. And so"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "with the fall of the Berlin Wall, we"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "said, \"Let's start trading with our"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "former enemies. We're allies now. We can"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "work together. free trade's good for the"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "world and we can get this product"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "elsewhere. And so over the next couple"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "decades um we move towards free trade"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "and imports and decommission those old"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "facilities"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "assuming that that would be a fine thing"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "to rely on with a bunch of different"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "partners. But now we're in a position"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "where we need to grow nuclear energy."}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "And if you look at how much enrichment"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "the US is going to need right now we"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "produce less than a third of what we"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "need. And the the administration a"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "couple weeks ago said we are going to"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "quadruple our nuclear energy by 2050. So"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "now we went from producing a third of"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "what we need less than a third to less"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "than a 12th. And so we need to create a"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "massive amount of new nuclear reactor"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "builds. We have 94 now. We got to"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "quadruple that. And the fuel production"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "we need to to increase much more than"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "that."}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "How much when you're talking about a"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "poppy seed? Mhm. I mean that's like"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "nothing. How much energy does that"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "produce?"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "So a a pellet roughly an inch tall of"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "conventional enriched uranium"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "that one pellet"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "which roughly like coke can dimensions"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "just shrunk down to 1 in tall would"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "contain as much energy as"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "a ton of coal or 100 barrels of oil."}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "Wow. Wow. And yeah, that's that's also"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "if that that pellet is conventional uh"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "nuclear fuel, which is about 5%"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "enriched."}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "And when you run that through, most of"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the energy is still in there. So you you"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "put it in, you know, the way that"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "nuclear reactors work is you have"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "uranium inside."}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "The fizzile material is uranium 235."}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "you get uranium 235 in proximity to"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "itself and it starts releasing neutrons"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "which create heat and it forms a chain"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "reaction. These chain reactions are"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "controlled in reactors through the"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "control rods that they have through"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "water in the vessel. And so it just it's"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "basically a heat generator and you take"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "the heat traditionally you boil water um"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "you either do that directly, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "all the rods are sitting in water and so"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "they're making heat, the water is"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "heating up. You can either keep that"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "really pressurized like a pressure"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "cooker and exchange the heat and run a"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "steam turbine outside or you can"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "actually just let the water boil and use"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "the steam there to power to power"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "turbines directly. So that's how"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "reactors work. And"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "like a really simple analogy I give is"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "it's almost like a compost heap. It's"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "like you know food scraps and yard waste"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "spread out isn't going to do anything."}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "But you pile it enough, you start"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "getting some heat production. And that's"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "essentially what a reactor is doing is"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "except it's doing it with a much"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "different type of reaction. It's a"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "nuclear reaction and it's doing it with"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "uranium. And so that's how every reactor"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "works. It's just fuel held in some"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "configuration with some element of"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "control over how much heat's produced"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "and some coolant that's around it. Wow."}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "So, one one little 1-in pellet is"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "equivalent to a ton of coal or 100"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "barrels of oil. Yep. No matter where"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "you're watching Shawn Ryan show from, if"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "you get anything out of this, please"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "like, comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "possibly can. 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So they"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "can't even release any radioactive gas."}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "So it's another layer of safety on top."}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "So a bunch of the advanced reactor types"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "are doing that. To really have domestic"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "capability, you need all the steps. And"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "so the step that's missing right now is"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "enrichment. If you rewind to the history"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "of this in the 50s, the US built a bunch"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "of enrichment. This was cold war era. We"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "were the world leader in enrichment. 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And so"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "with the fall of the Berlin Wall, we"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "said, \"Let's start trading with our"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "former enemies. We're allies now. We can"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "work together. Free trade's good for the"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "world, and we can get this product"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "elsewhere.\" And so over the next couple"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "decades, we move towards free trade and"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "imports and decommission those old"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "facilities, assuming that that would be"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "a fine thing to rely on with a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "different partners. But now we're in a"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "position where we need to grow nuclear"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "energy. And if you look at how much"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "enrichment the US is going to need,"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "right now we produce less than a third"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "of what we need. The administration a"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "couple weeks ago said we are going to"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "quadruple our nuclear energy by 2050."}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "When you're talking about a poppy seed"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "Mhm. I mean that's like nothing. How"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "much energy does that produce? A pellet"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "roughly an inch tall of conventional"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "enriched uranium. That one pellet, which"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "roughly like coke can dimensions just"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "shrunk down to one inch tall, would"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "contain as much energy as a ton of coal"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "or 100 barrels of oil. One little 1-in"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "pellet is equivalent to a ton of coal or"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "100 barrels of oil. Yep."}]

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So this movie"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "came out and right after this accident"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "happened and just drove if you just"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "project out AI demand it's going to be"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "equal to our grid by 2030."}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "Do you think it's the fear of nuclear we"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "like is it a misconception between"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "nuclear weapons and nuclear power? Yes."}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "That that"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "that has created the setback. I think"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "there's there's two things. There's the"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "fear of weapons. There's also the fear"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "of accidents."}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "But if you look at the, you know, most"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "famous US accident, Three-Mile Island,"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "no one actually died from 3-M Island"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "from radiation exposure, from anything"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "else. What happened there? Uh, so good"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "good question. So 3M Island was a famous"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "uh meltdown that happened in the US in"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "uh in Pennsylvania. 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And so fast forward to"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "today, one of those reactors is still"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "out of commission, but the other one"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "Microsoft is planning to turn back on to"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "power AI. Okay. So they renamed"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "ThreeMile Island to Crane uh Crane"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "Energy Center, I believe. And so one of"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "those reactors is going to come back. So"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "this thing that people really worry"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "about, they cite 3M island, they cite"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "accidents. Hey, nuclear can't be safe."}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "Nuclear is extremely safe. It's the"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "safest form base load. And even the"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "worst accident in the US history, which"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "was caused by human error that would not"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "occur today and can't occur with the"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "more advanced reactors, even that one"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "result in zero deaths. And so by not"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "building nuclear, we instead did lots of"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "other stuff. We did coal, natural gas,"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "wind, solar, all those things we need,"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "but uh none of them are as safe as"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "nuclear. Yeah. What I mean do you think"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "that do you think any of the setbacks"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "are you know big oil and gas industry"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "and"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "I mean I don't blame them. I think I"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "think the fossil fuels industry, oil and"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "gas have been doing what they've you"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "know they're on their mission. Let's"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "have US energy independence. Let's, you"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "know, pull from the natural gas reserves"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "we have. Natural gas being half the"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "carbon output of of other types of"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "fossil fuels. And so, you know, that's"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "that's been a big part of how the US"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "actually reduced its carbon emissions"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "the last few years was was natural gas."}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "So, I think those companies are just"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "laser focused on what they're trying to"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "do. I think the fact that nuclear has"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "not become bigger is a US policy"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "decision and it's the nuclear industry"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "um maybe not pushing hard enough for for"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "progress really defending themselves cuz"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "there's a lot of great people in nuclear"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "who have believed in nuclear for decades"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "and diligently worked away at it and it"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "should be much bigger than it is. Can"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "you"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "help the audience understand how much we"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "could advance, you know, talk about the"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "how important energy is in everyday"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "society and and especially with, you"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "know, with the AI boom hang uh happening"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "right now and all the data centers that"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "we need and how much power that's going"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "to consume. I mean, can can you go into"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "that a little bit on on how important"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "this actually is? 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And then total installed"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "production capacity in the US is like"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "1,250 gawatt."}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "So a lot of that's not operating all the"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "time. That's like peaker plants. It"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "might be wind, solar. Not everything is"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "base load. And then just to calibrate"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "internationally, US and China neck and"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "neck in 2010 on production capacity on"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "the grid. Since then, China doubled. By"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "the end of the decade, it'll triple. So,"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "you can double and triple the grid if"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "you want to. They've done a lot of that"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "through nuclear, but much more with"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "coal. And so, other countries are"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "expanding and they're doing it not in"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "the cleanest way. So us doing it with"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "nuclear, us doing it with other things,"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "you know, it displaces manufacturing"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "that might happen there with a cleaner"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "source of energy here. So"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "geopolitically, if you think about US"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "versus China, people are worried about"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "conflicts of all types. AI conflict,"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "kinetic conflict, economic, all three of"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "those come back to energy."}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "So if you want to have the US being in"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "the lead on AI, manufacturing or"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "economic influence, you need to have the"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "most energy. It's directly linked to"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "GDP. Um as a company, we believe in high"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "energy societies, energy societies that"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "consume and use effectively a lot of"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "energy. And if you look at all the"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "countries on Earth, there is not a"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "single country that is low energy and"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "high GDP."}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "So"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "sent us a graph. Mhm. Energy consumption"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "versus income per capita in 2022. I'll"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "overlay that on the screen, but it it"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "shows high income, low energy countries"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "don't exist."}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "Yeah. If you want poor countries to get"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "the standard of living that we have,"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "it's going to take more energy. So"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "that's you, you know, we can we can look"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "at the global lens and that's simply the"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "reality. If you want if you want"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "everyone to have a good quality of life,"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "you know, be able to heat and cool their"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "homes, have refrigeration, have all the"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "things we have, it's going to take a lot"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "more energy and there's there's no way"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "around it. One of the big Oh, is this"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "India? Are they do they produce more"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "energy than us as well? Uh, per capita."}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "No, let's see."}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "Where's India? I'm here. Yeah, per"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "capita no. But um overall, yes, India,"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "China, huge huge production and"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "consumption. I mean in on top of that, I"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "mean I've been talking to a lot of"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "innovators, a lot of tech innovators. We"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "just had Dino Murukus on who's um"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "founder of Seronic."}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "Um been talking to a lot of a lot of AI"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "types. Alex Wang had Sham Sang car in"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "and and I mean they're all talking about"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "how much energy that we need, you know,"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "in in in the race to AI. And so"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "I mean I've heard of these mini reactors"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "that people are starting to"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "build. I don't are those I mean are they"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "using those yet? Is that legal? Not yet."}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "They're not using them yet. In terms of"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "the AI demand, if you just project out"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "AI demand, it's going to be equal to our"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "grid by 2030. It's just this exponential"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "growth curve. And those are always hard"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "to predict, but reasonable predictions"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "say it needs as much as we have on the"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "entire grid by 2030, which means we have"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "to start right now expanding production"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "of reactors, of fuel. And so to your"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "question, are they using them yet? No,"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "not yet. 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No"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "matter where you're watching Shawn Ryan"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "show from, if you get anything out of"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "this, please like, comment, subscribe,"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "and most importantly, share this"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, please"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "leave us a review on Apple and Spotify"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "podcasts."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Did you have any time with your platoon"}, {"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "before you went out the door or did you"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "just show up and it's like, \"Hey, guess"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "what? I graduated early. I'll be uh"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "heading out the door with you tomorrow.\""}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "I think we showed up in August and we"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "deployed in March a little bit, couple"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "months. Got to the major blocks. We got"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "CQB, Land Warfare, missed all the"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "prodev. So, they gave us hazmat demo"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "driver, which I couldn't do because I"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "didn't have a driver's license. I was"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "like the lowest life form on earth. We"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "had nine new guys and nine old guys. So,"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "it was good, man. The mesh was good. The"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "learning curve was high. The standard in"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "that platoon was extremely high. But it"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "should have been. I'm glad it was now."}]

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[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "A week ago, we saw 70 Chinese ships move"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "into the straight. Two carriers went"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "farther out into the Pacific."}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "Unfortunately, that has become a daily"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "reality. We've been forced to live with"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "where they are using many different"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "types of hybrid tools to threaten and"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "coers our society into submission. We"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "see that as part of what we call the"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "gray zone threats between peace and war."}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "Let's move to Taiwan China relations. 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Um they are also you"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "know using economic trade tools as"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "another leverage uh for coercing members"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "of our business community and other"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "foreign countries threatening them from"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "having ties or relations with Taiwan uh"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "by using that economic leverage. 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But let me also you know"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "um again raise that it's not only around"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "Taiwan. They are all over the South"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "China Sea. They're to the north around"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "Japan. Uh there have also been air"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "incursions uh into Japanese airspace."}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "There have been, you know, maritime"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "incursions and um this is a um a"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "challenge that many of us face how to"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "ensure the freedom of navigation"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "um because that is foundational to"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "global trade. Uh it's foundational to"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "keeping global prosperity and supply"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "chains uh flowing. No matter where"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "you're watching Shan Ryan Show from, if"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "you get anything out of this, please"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "like, comment, subscribe, and most"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "importantly, share this everywhere you"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "extra generous, please leave us a review"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "on Apple and Spotify podcasts."}]

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[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "artificial islands that China continues"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "to construct off its shores. It seems"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "like they're trying to push the borders"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "out. Over a decade ago, China claimed"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "that they were only providing bases for"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "resupplying fishing boats and for"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "completely humanitarian purposes. But we"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "see that now they are not only building"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "artificial islands, they are also"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "militarizing them. And that is"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "generating tremendous anxiety in our own"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "neighborhood among other Southeast Asian"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "countries. Their expansionist intentions"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "are not limited to Taiwan. They have"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "broader global ambitions in changing the"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "rules as we know"}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "In the place where you feel the safest,"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "something is watching you in plain"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "sight. Faces appear in places where"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "nothing should fit. Heads drop down to"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "stare at you from the ceiling, and"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "figures are squeezed into spaces that no"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "one should ever occupy. This episode"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "will take you through three cases that"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "will leave you double-checking every"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "nook and cranny around you in your home."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "I'm Josh Pinocchio. This is what lurks"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "beneath. You won't want to miss this"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "one."}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "In February of 2022, Beth was walking"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "out her bathroom in her house when"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "something caught her eye. Just to the"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "side of the bathroom door, there was a"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "lamp. And while it was tall, it wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "very large lamp. It was actually quite"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "narrow. But as she glanced at it on this"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "day, she noticed that there was"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "something different. It almost looked"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "like there was something behind it. Now,"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "to Beth, it looked like there was a"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "figure standing behind the lamp, looking"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "at her between it and the wall. But what"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "was really strange about it was that she"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "couldn't see all of it. And that was"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "impossible. It didn't make sense. The"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "lamp was so narrow that Beth should have"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "been able to see much more of whatever"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "this was. But no matter how hard she"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "stared, she could only see about half of"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "it. And that half included a face. Now,"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "from what Beth could tell, it seemed to"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "be a woman's face. And when she tried to"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "describe it later, Beth said that the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "face seemed to have an intense or angry"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "look, and it also had no eyebrows and"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "long, stringy black hair. Right away,"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "she jumped and she was frozen and never"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "took her eyes off the face and its"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "strange angle. Her mind was just racing"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "to figure out what this could be. And"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "the other half of this face was"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "invisible. Like it just wasn't there or"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "it was simply cut off. As for the rest"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "of the body, she couldn't see that"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "either. Was it simply a trick of the"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "light? Even though she had cats, she was"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "the only one in this house."}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "Instinctively, Beth took a step back and"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "when she did, she momentarily looked"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "away from this thing behind the lamp. It"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "wasn't long, but it was long enough"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "because when she looked back, it was now"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "gone. And you know, she stood there for"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "a moment and she began to tell herself"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "that, you know, she's tired, she's"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "saying things, that it had to have been"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "a trick of the light or something, but"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "she realized that she was in a brightly"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "lit room. So, something had to have been"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "back there. But there was simply no way"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "that something could have possibly"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "hidden behind that lamp. But all she"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "could do was shrug and accept that"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "whatever it was was now gone. Now, for"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "the next couple months, she pushed this"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "strange event out of her mind. you know,"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "she tried to just rationalize it as"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "nothing more than an illusion. But in"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "May of that year, Beth was sitting in"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "her living room with her partner and"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "they were watching a movie. All of a"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "sudden, they hear this loud banging"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "sound coming from somewhere in the home."}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "It actually sounded like somebody was"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "pounding on one of the interior doors."}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "Beth has noticed that over the years,"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "you know, she's heard a lot of strange"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "noises coming from this home, but she's"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "always been able to write them off as"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "just the house settling. But this time,"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "the sound was just too loud to ignore."}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "Initially, she thought it could have"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "been the cats, you know, but the noise"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "was just way too loud for it to have"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "come from them. And just in case she"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "thought she was imagining things, her"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "partner heard it, too. So, they paused"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "the movie and they both sat there"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "waiting to see if the banging would come"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "back. But after a moment, there was no"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "noise. And, you know, they kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "looked at each other and just shrugged,"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "not really sure what it was. And Beth"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "suggested, \"Well, maybe something fell."}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "That had to be it, right? You know, they"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "both get up and they started going from"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "room to room just trying to figure out"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "the source of the sound. But of course,"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "they turned up empty. Everything was in"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "its place. Even the cats were sleeping."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "Simply put, there was no explanation."}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "But later on that evening though, Beth's"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "mind just kind of kept wandering back to"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "that event that happened back in"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "February. You know, where she saw the"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "face, and she couldn't help but think"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "that it or her or whatever it was had"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "something to do with it. Now, even"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "though it seemed ridiculous, the human"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "mind does try to find patterns and"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "connections, even when they don't exist."}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "In fact, a couple more months would pass"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "with no strange occurrences in the home."}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "But then, one evening, something really"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "odd happened. Something that took Beth"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "back to the first day outside the"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "bathroom. It was night and Beth was in"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "bed, and the room was mostly dark, and"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "her partner was fast asleep right next"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "to her. But Beth was wide awake, you"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "know, just staring at the ceiling,"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "thinking about work related things that"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "were stressing her out. At some point,"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "she kind of just turned her head to look"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "at the side of the room. And she saw it"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "again. It was in the exact same spot"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "where she had seen it back in February"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "behind that same lamp next to the"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "bathroom door. And in fact, it appeared"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "the same way. It's just the top part of"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "what appeared to be a face hovering"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "between the lamp and the wall. Now"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "granted, this time the room was darker,"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "but there was no mistaking it. She knew"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "that this was the same thing that she"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "had seen before, and her body"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "immediately tensed up. She could sense"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "that something was really wrong. Wanting"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "confirmation that she wasn't crazy, she"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "wanted really badly to wake up her"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "boyfriend sleeping next to her, but she"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "wasn't sure if she should reach over and"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "shake him or not, thinking that the"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "figure would simply disappear as soon as"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "she looked away. And what would he do if"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "he did see it? I mean, she had no idea"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "what this was, and she didn't know if it"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "was dangerous. In what felt like this"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "act of courage that took every ounce of"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "her strength, she reached over, turned"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "on the lamp on her bedside table, and as"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "soon as the light filled the room, you"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "know, her boyfriend kind of groaned and"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "rolled over, but he stayed asleep. And"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "of course, when she looked back at the"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "lamp next to the door, it was gone."}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "Getting up to investigate, Beth got out"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "of bed, turned on all the lights,"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "checked the entire house. You know, she"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "looked behind furniture, under the beds,"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "in closets, and couldn't find anything."}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "Probably the most disturbing thing about"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "all this is that she had seen the figure"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "in the exact same location. How was it"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "connected, though, to the sounds like"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "the banging? She wasn't sure, but she"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "went to spend the rest of the night in"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "the living room with all the lights on,"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "and she wasn't going to sleep at all."}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "She was just going to wait for the sun"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "to come up. Unfortunately, she never did"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "find out what it was or what it wanted."}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "What Beth saw peeking out at her is"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "anyone's guess. It could have been"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "anything. But whatever it was, its"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "ability to defy the laws of physics and"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "appear in the tiniest of spaces suggests"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "that our reality is not its home. That"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "it comes from somewhere else. But the"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "thing that peaked out at Beth sounds a"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "lot like the Sukima Ona or the Gapwoman."}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "The Gapwoman is a type of supernatural"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "entity from Japanese folklore. Some say"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "she is just an urban legend. Others"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "claim that she is one of the several"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "Yo-kai beings from Japanese mythology."}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "But whoever or whatever she is, the gap"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "woman is said to haunt the narrow spaces"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "within our very homes. Be it the sliver"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "between a dresser and the wall, beneath"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "the bed, or even the smallest cracks in"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "the floorboards, or like in Beth's"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "story, between a lamp and the wall. In"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "the grand scheme of things, stories"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "about this being are relatively new,"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "although not as new as you might think."}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "While lots of people know about her"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "through the internet, the Gapwoman's"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "origins trace back far earlier, having"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "first appeared in a collection of Ido"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "period legends compiled by Nigishi"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "Yasumori around the beginning of the"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "1800s. Nagishi was a samurai who held a"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "pretty high up admin job during the last"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "years of this time. And in his free time"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "over the course of decades, he gathered"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "all sorts of stories and folktales from"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "people he met. He actually ended up"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "putting them together in a 10 volume"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "collection called Mimi Bukuro with 100"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "stories in each. And one of them"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "contains the first appearance of the"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "gapwoman. And it went like this. A young"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "man who owned a tea shop had just moved"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "into a new place. And not long after, he"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "noticed something strange with a sliding"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "door on the second floor. it would only"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "open halfway and when a servant tried to"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "fix it, the door jammed. But weirdly,"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "when the shopkeeper gave it a try, it"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "slid open just fine. Well, the next day"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "it was stuck again. And you know, one of"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "the servants tried to force it open. And"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "out of nowhere, a woman suddenly"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "appeared from the narrow space where the"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "door slides into the wall. She grabbed"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "the servant who freaked out and slammed"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "the door shut. And just like that, the"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "gap woman was gone. Even that early"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "story shows how the gap woman likes to"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "target people. Once she fixates on"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "someone, her constant staring can lead"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "to feelings of isolation or madness. The"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "unluckiest victims disappear. It is said"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "that anyone making eye contact with her"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "gets taken into her realm. To prevent"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "being kidnapped, those targeted often"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "cover every empty space in their home in"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "this obsessive, futile quest to escape"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "her gaze. Supposedly, there's even a"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "male variation, Sukima Oco, the gap man,"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "who similarly likes to trap people"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "through crevices of their homes. In"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "fact, a more recent story shows how the"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "gap woman appears nowadays in Japan. A"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "few years ago, a 25-year-old man named"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Herooqi moved into a small house in the"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "historic city of Kyoto, Japan. Arooqi"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "had just landed a new job at a tech"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "company. And this house, which was"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "surprisingly affordable given its"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "location, was perfect for this new"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "chapter in his life. The house was"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "fairly old, but it had recently been"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "renovated, and it had two bedrooms, a"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "kitchen, and a pretty modest living"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "area, and nothing about it seemed"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "unusual or strange. For the first few"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "weeks, he was pretty happy there. He"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "would go to work during the day, you"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "know, come home in the evening, watch"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "some TV, and then simply go to bed. It"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "was a simple, comfortable routine. But,"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "you know, about a month goes by and he"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "began to notice some strange things."}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "Like when he was home alone, he would"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "hear what sounded like movement in other"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "parts. It wasn't anything dramatic, but"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "it was like soft shuffling sounds or"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "like someone gently dragging their feet"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "on the floor. Of course, you know, he"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "dismissed it initially because maybe it"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "was somebody moving around in an"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "adjacent unit. But over time, these"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "sounds continued, and in fact, they"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "became more frequent, and he started to"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "feel like he wasn't exactly alone. One"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "night, as he was getting ready for bed,"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "he distinctly heard what sounded like"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "breathing coming from somewhere in his"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "bedroom, but he couldn't discern where,"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "but the sound was so close that it made"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "him really begin to panic. And he"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "immediately turned on all the lights,"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "and he searched the house, and he"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "checked under the bed and inside the"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "closet, behind their furniture. You guys"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "know the gist. anywhere someone could"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "possibly be hiding. But guess what? He"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "found nothing. Surprise! He went to bed"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "with no problems. But it was the first"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "thought that entered his mind when he"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "woke up. The next day at work, he"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "couldn't even concentrate. And it was"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "then that he devised his plan. When he"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "got home from work that evening, instead"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "of his usual routine, he decided to"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "conduct another thorough search. He"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "looked in every nook and cranny, every"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "corner, every potential hiding spot."}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "either he's going crazy and he's"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "paranoid or there's something in his"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "home. He even checked spaces that were"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "clearly too small for a person to fit"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "into. And again, there was nothing."}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "Despite winding up empty-handed, he"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "couldn't shake the feeling that"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "something or someone was in his house"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "with him. And over the next several"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "days, he began to seal up what he"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "perceived as potential hiding spots,"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "even ones that were way too small to"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "hide anyone. He used packing tape to"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "cover the gap underneath his sofa. And,"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "you know, he taped over the space behind"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "the fridge and even the small openings"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "around the AC until he had sealed it"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "shut. I mean, it was clear that he was"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "becoming increasingly paranoid. Well, 2"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "weeks later, after the sounds first"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "started, he just stopped going to work."}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "In fact, he called in sick for a few"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "days and then he just stopped calling"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "altogether. He was too afraid to leave"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "his house because he was convinced that"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "whatever was hiding there would reveal"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "itself if he wasn't there to monitor it."}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "Guys, is it just me or does this sound"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "like some sort of modern psychological"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "thriller? Well, instead he stayed home,"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "barely sleeping, constantly on edge,"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "waiting for something to happen. Now,"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "Herooqi even stopped going outside"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "entirely. He had food delivered left at"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "his door, which you know he would"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "quickly grab before locking himself back"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "inside. His windows remained shut and"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "covered with blinds or curtains at all"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "times. And gosh, he just began losing"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "it. After he had been absent from work"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "for over a week with no communication,"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "his colleagues started to worry. They"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "tried calling him multiple times, but"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "you know, he never answered. So, a few"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "of them decided that they should perform"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "a wellness check. Well, they arrived and"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "they were immediately concerned. The"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "outside looked neglected. I mean, there"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "were several days worth of newspaper"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "piled up at the door and the plants on a"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "small porch were wilting. When they"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "knocked, nobody answered. They knocked"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "again and called out his name, but there"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "was nothing. They were probably"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "convinced that he he had died in there."}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "One of the men named Tekashi was closest"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "to Harukqi. He actually tried the door"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "handle. And of course, he was surprised"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "to find it unlocked. Concerned for the"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "safety of their friend, the group of"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "these men entered the house cautiously"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "and what they saw scared them. The house"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "was in complete disarray. It stank."}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "There were empty food containers"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "scattered everywhere and I'm surprised"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "there wasn't roaches. None of the trash"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "had been taken out. The strangest part"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "of all this was the tape. I mean, there"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "was tape everywhere. They're covering"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "gaps in the walls and ceiling cabinet"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "doors shut. And it was stretched across"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "the spaces underneath the furniture. It"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "was clear that Herooqi was losing his"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "mind by trying to cover every seal"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "possible in the home. Tekashi called out"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "to him, telling him that his co-workers"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "had come to check on him. They listened."}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "They listened, but there was no"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "response. So, the group decided to move"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "deeper into the home and they carefully"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "checked each room as they went, hoping"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "he was in there, but he wasn't. So, when"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "they at last reached the bedroom, they"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "found him. He was lying on the floor in"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "the corner of the room, his back against"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "the wall, and he looked terrible. His"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "hair was a mess. He had clearly lost"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "weight from not really eating, and his"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "eyes just had dark circles under them"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "because he hadn't slept well in days."}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "All four of these men were convinced he"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "was really sick or dying. But Harooqi"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "was just completely terrified and he"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "looked at his co-workers and that he was"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "gravely concerned for their safety and"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "explained to them that now that they're"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "here, she's not going to let them leave."}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "Of course, they had no idea what he was"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "talking about. Who wouldn't let them"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "leave? The house was empty. But in his"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "crazed stuper, he slowly raised his hand"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "and pointed to a corner of the room"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "completely trembling. and he explained"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "to them that she was there. Between the"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "dresser and the wall, she was there,"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "that she had always been there. When the"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "four men had looked, on the other side"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "of the room was a small dresser pressed"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "against the wall. And between the"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "dresser and the wall was a slight gap. I"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "mean, a very narrow space, no more than"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "2 in at most. But none of the four men"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "saw anything, and they're like, \"Dude,"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "this guy's he's losing it.\" Harooqi just"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "went on to explain in these broken,"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "paranoid sentences everything that he"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "had gone through. You know, the sounds,"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "the paranoia, just him trapping himself"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "in his own home. The guy was clearly"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "having a mental breakdown. But Tekashi"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "and his colleagues were very worried for"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "him. So, they're like, \"You know what?"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "Let's go check out the dresser. He's"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "very concerned about this.\" And, you"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "know, they wanted to reassure him cuz"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "they were worried about his well-being."}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "So the four men approached the gap"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "between the dresser and the wall and"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "interestingly as they got closer they"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "both felt this chill go down all their"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "bodies. It was really strange and you"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "know they they stopped and looked at"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "each other like uh okay this is strange"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "but all right. And they lean in to look"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "into the gap. you know, there shouldn't"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "be anything back there. But what they"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "saw made them both jump back because"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "somehow squeezed impossibly into this"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "2-in space was a girl, or at least part"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "of her. They could see her face pressed"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "against the wall, her long black hair"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "cascading down the narrow space, and she"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "was wearing what looked like a red"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "dress, though it was hard to make out in"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "the darkness. Her eyes were wide open,"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "and she was staring at them. And you"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "know in complete fear and panic, Tekashi"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "and the other three men just stumbled"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "backwards and they're in shock. They're"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "cursing. They're shouting. And as that"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "was happening, this pair of slender pale"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "hands, a woman's hands reached out into"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "the room, reaching for these men. And in"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "complete panic, all four men screamed"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "and they ran out of the room. All of"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "them, of course, just stumbling over"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "each other, trying to get out as fast as"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "they could. They got to the front door."}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "They flung open. They all ran outside."}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "They got to their car, which was parked"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "on the street because they had"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "carpulooled. They jump inside. They"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "close the door and they realize"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "something. They do a body count. Oh no."}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "They had left Herooqi behind. Several of"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "the men suggested that we got to go back"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "and save their coworker. But the others"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "claimed that that was a bad idea. And as"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "you might imagine, it didn't take much"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "convincing to just let the police handle"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "it. Well, Harooqi's co-workers drove"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "away, swearing that they would call the"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "cops as soon as they were far enough"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "away. But we all know that by the time"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "they reached a place where they felt"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "safe, they couldn't do it. They just"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "couldn't make the call. They were"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "worried that making that call would"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "somehow invite whatever that being was,"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "that Yo-kai, into their own lives. And"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "their indecision led to some serious"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "consequences because no one ever saw"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "Herooi again. In fact, law enforcement"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "did eventually conduct a search of the"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "house after Herooqi was eventually"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "reported missing by his employer, but"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "they found a trace of him. The house was"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "empty. There was no sign of a struggle"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "or anything out of the ordinary apart"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "from the use of tape on all the"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "openings. And in the weeks after, the"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "four colleagues who had seen the girl in"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "the gap began to experience those same"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "strange events in their home. The story"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "goes that one by one they too all"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "disappeared. Now by the time anyone"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "realized there was some sort of"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "connection between these disappearances"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "and Herooqis it was simply too late. And"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "probably the most frightening part of"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "all this where did these five men get"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "taken to? That remains a mystery. Of"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "course no one knows whether or not"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "Herooqi's runin with the Gatwoman"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "actually happened or if it's just, you"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "know, urban legend. But we do know that"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "more reliable sources have surfaced over"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "the years from people who describe a"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "very similar phenomenon. Luckily, most"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "people who encounter this stuff nowadays"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "don't suffer the same fate. But that"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "doesn't mean that their experiences"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "still don't leave them absolutely"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "terrified. In April of 2018, a woman"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "named Clara and her fiance\u00e9 Sam were"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "moving into their new apartment in"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "Kentucky. It was a beautiful, historic"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "building. You know, it had been built"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "all the way back in 1898. And they were"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "just so excited about this place because"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "it had beautiful high ceilings, hardwood"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "floors, gorgeous bay windows. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "the building itself had a very"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "interesting history. It was originally"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "constructed to house offices, but in the"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "'7s, it was converted into apartments."}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "And so, the couple loved the idea of"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "living in a space with so much history."}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "But what they didn't realize is that"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "sometimes when you move into a place"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "like that, the history doesn't want to"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "stay in the past. The couple had been"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "living in the apartment for about 2"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "weeks when they began noticing strange"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "things. They would both suddenly wake up"}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "at exactly 2:00 in the morning and they"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "just kind of, you know, wrote it off as"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "a coincidence that there's, I don't"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "know, maybe something about the home,"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "you know, maybe one of them was having a"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "dream or, I don't know, restlessness."}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "But either way, they couldn't figure it"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "out. And one night, Sam woke up at 2:00"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "in the morning, as had become their"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "routine. But this time, it was different"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "because as he was laying there in bed,"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "you know, he looked over toward their"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "bedroom doorway and he saw something"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "that really bothered him. What he saw"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "was a hand, just a hand gripping the"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "door frame as if somebody was standing"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "in the hallway, peeking into the room."}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "And this hand was so pale that it almost"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "seemed to glow in the darkness."}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "immediately panicked. He sat up in bed"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "and called out asking who was there."}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "This of course woke Clara up, but by the"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "time she was alert, the hand had"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "vanished. Sam explained to her what he"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "had seen, and you know, they immediately"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "got up to check the apartment. They went"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "room by room, turning on all the lights,"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "checking closets, looking in her"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "furniture, but you know, there was"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "nothing there. The front door was still"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "locked with the deadbolt secured, and"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "all the windows were closed. Folks,"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "there was simply no way anyone could"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "have gotten in. you know, they"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "eventually just convinced themselves"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "that it must have been some kind of half"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "dream, you know, maybe a some sort of"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "hallucination, which is something that"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "can happen when, you know, you're"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "between being awake and being asleep."}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "But either way, neither of them really"}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "believed that explanation. And, you"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "know, so a few nights later, it was"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "Clara's turn to see something. And once"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "again, it happened at exactly 2:00 in"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "the morning. Clara got up to get a glass"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "of water, and once that was done, she"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "headed back to the bedroom. When she"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "started to get to the hallway, she saw a"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "figure of a woman in the doorway up"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "ahead. Now, the woman was just standing"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "there completely still, peeking into the"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "room, staring at Sam as he slept. Of"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "course, Clara wanted to scream, but"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "before she could even process what she"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "was seeing, the woman was gone. So, she"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "ran back into the bedroom and woke up"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "Sam. And they again searched the entire"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "apartment, and they found nothing. The"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "front door was still locked. All the"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "windows were still closed and there was"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "still no explanation for what Clara had"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "seen. Now, this went on for months and"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "strange things continued happening. One"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "morning, she was making breakfast when a"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "glass suddenly fell from the counter and"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "shattered. There was nowhere near it. It"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "just fell. Weeks after that, the exact"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "same thing happened with another glass."}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "Clara felt confident that she could rule"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "out the possibility of a draft or, you"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "know, something like that. Another"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "night, Sam was making dinner and he went"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "to grab a knife from the cutlery tray,"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "but the knife he wanted wasn't there. He"}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "knew that they had just washed it, so he"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "asked his girlfriend if they had moved"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "it. She hadn't, and you know, they"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "looked around the kitchen, but it was no"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "use. Just when they were about to give"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "up, they found the knife on the other"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "side of the kitchen, placed neatly on"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "the counter, which is weird. Neither of"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "them had put it there. But fast forward"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "to December one evening, Claire was in"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "the living room and Sam was in the"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "bedroom. They both heard this loud crash"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "from the kitchen. So, they ran to see"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "what was happening and got there at the"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "same time and together discovered that"}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "the dish rack had somehow fallen from"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "the sink. Three bowls and a pair of"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "plates that had been drying in it now"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "lay shattered on the floor as if they"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "had been picked up and tossed down. I"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "mean, it seemed possible that the rack"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "might have slipped, but given everything"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "else that had happened in their"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "apartment over the last few months, they"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "seriously doubted that. Both were very"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "creeped out by all this stuff happening"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "and they were seriously considering"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "moving, but you know, they had signed a"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "year-long lease with some pretty"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "substantial penalties for breaking it"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "early and they couldn't afford to lose"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "that money. So, they're like, you know"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "what, let's just stick it out. We can do"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "this. You know, we only have another,"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "you know, four or 5 months left anyway."}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "Let's just, you know, we'll be fine."}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "Unfortunately, the situation, though,"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "continued getting worse. Sam would go on"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "to have horrific nightmares. You know,"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "he'd wake up screaming, covered in"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "sweat, but he could never exactly"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "remember what the dreams were about. But"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "it got so bad to the point to where he"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "was afraid to even sleep. And you know,"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "he would purposefully keep himself"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "awake, and he became very sleepdeprived."}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "Clara began catching glimpses of shadows"}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "moving in and out of the hallway. And,"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "you know, she had to try to convince"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "herself it was her imagination, but she"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "noticed that even their cats were acting"}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "strange. And twice in three days, she"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "saw both of them tearing out of the"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "hallway at full speed like they were"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "running from something. She didn't see"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "what, but she could only guess. One"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "night, when Clara was doing the dishes,"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "she heard the sound behind her, and as"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "she turned around, she actually saw this"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "glass lift itself from the sink and just"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "drop onto the floor, shattering into"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "pieces. However, just a few days later,"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "this would be the worst. Clara was"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "sitting all alone on the couch reading,"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "you know, just trying to keep her mind"}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "off things. And she's really engrossed"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "in the book she's reading. And suddenly"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "she gets this intense feeling that"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "someone's looking at her. You know,"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "she's she keeps her eyes locked on the"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "page because she doesn't want to"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "acknowledge it. She doesn't want to look"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "up. Without moving her head too much,"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "she allows her eyes to kind of drift up"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "in the direction of the hallway. There"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "in the door frame is a woman's head."}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "What Clara sees is just a head. no body,"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "dark hair, and pale skin. And it is"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "tilted sideways, like peeking over the"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "edge of the door frame. But the most"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "disturbing thing is that it isn't"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "looking into the room at head height."}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "This face is looking at Clara from the"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "very top of the doorway, higher up than"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "any head should ever be. And for a brief"}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "terrifying moment, the woman's eyes and"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "Clara eyes meet, and the face seems to"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "look just as surprised as she is, like"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "it didn't expect to be seen. completely"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "overcome with fear. The head lifts up"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "and to the right like a very tall person"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "is standing up straight and then it's"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "just gone. No sign that it has ever been"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "there. And as you know, she is just"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "beyond scared. She's so scared she"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "couldn't even scream. All she could do"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "is just stare and she begins to just"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "disassociate. So when she finally comes"}, {"end": "00:26:05", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "out of this fear-driven paralysis, she"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "grabs her phone, grabs her keys, and she"}, {"end": "00:26:09", "start": "00:26:05", "text": "just ran straight out of the apartment."}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "She drove to her mom's house and she's"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:09", "text": "like, \"You know what?\" She explained to"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "her mom what had happened. She's like,"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "\"I need to stay here for several days."}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "I'm just too scared to come home.\" Sam,"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "of course, didn't want to be there alone"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "either. And he went to go stay with a"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "friend. And unfortunately, they both"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "knew they couldn't go back there and,"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "you know, they would just have to just"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "leave it be for a while. They didn't"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "know who or what was there, but it"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "wasn't something they wanted to live"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "with. Eventually, they did go back, but"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "only during the daytime, and they never"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "spent the night there after that. At"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "this point, they could really care less"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "about the contract. And so, her and Sam"}, {"end": "00:26:44", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "immediately started looking for a new"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "place to live, and they were willing to"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:44", "text": "pay the lease penalties if it meant"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "getting them out of there. No matter how"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "beautiful or historic a place might be,"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "it's just not worth staying if you're"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "sharing it with something that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "want you there. 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[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "In the upper Midwest, something that no"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "one dares to discuss stalks the borders"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "of a quiet suburban neighborhood. Deep"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "footprints appear outside of children's"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "windows. Terrified family pets refuse to"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "go outside after dark. And shadowy"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "figures stalk bedrooms. And rumors of"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "even stranger things. Misty apparitions,"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "disembodied growls, and something that"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "no one can identify captured on camera."}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "This episode tells one family story of"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "how they came to understand that"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "something hides in the shadows of"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "America's heartland. I'm Josh Dinocchio."}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "This is what lurks beneath. You won't"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "want to miss this one."}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "At 1:30 on the morning of Thursday, July"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "17th, 2014, a woman named Susan was"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "lying in a bed inside her home in H"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "Heartland, Wisconsin. But even though it"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "was so late, she hadn't fallen asleep"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "yet. Her small dog wasn't letting her."}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "The pet was usually quiet through the"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "night. But tonight, it was behaving"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "differently. From the moment Susan had"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "gotten in bed, the dog seemed agitated."}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "I mean, it wouldn't stop whimpering and"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "yapping. And Susan was just so exhausted"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "and desperate for some peace and quiet."}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "So, she quietly slipped out of bed,"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "careful not to wake her special needs"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "child, who was sleeping in the next"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "room. and she made her way to where the"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "dog was standing by the back door. Now,"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "the only thing that she could think of"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "was that maybe it wanted to head outside"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "to use the bathroom. But when Susan"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "swung the door open, she noticed"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "something odd. Her dog's body was rigid"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "and its fur was standing on end. And"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "Susan, thinking that maybe a deer had"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "simply wandered into their yard, decided"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "to take a quick look outside. So, she"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "grabbed her dog's leash, clipped it on,"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "and quietly opened the door that led to"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "the deck behind her house. She stepped"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "outside with her dog. Or she would have"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "if her dog had followed her, but it"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "didn't. Now, it was cowering behind"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "Susan's legs, and the dog was trembling,"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "pressing itself against the back of"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "Susan's calves, just trying to make"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "itself as small as possible. And that's"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "when Susan looked up and out into the"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "backyard. That's when she saw it"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "standing in her yard, illuminated by the"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "lights from her deck, as well as others"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "from around the neighborhood. There was"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "this figure there, and it was on two"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "legs, fully upright like any person"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "would be, and appeared to be around 6 ft"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "tall. Susan initially thought it was"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "just somebody playing a trick on her or"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "that it was a person in a thick gray"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "jacket. But then she realized that this"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "intruder wasn't wearing a jacket. And in"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "fact, it wasn't human at all. So, as she"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "peered through the darkness, she quickly"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "came to realize that she was looking at"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "a creature. It had gray fur over its"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "entire body. Though the fur appeared"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "thickest on the creature's muscular"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "chest, giving it that fluffy jacket-like"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "impression, and its head was like that"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "of an animal. It had short, pointed ears"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "on top and a stubby snout. In fact, it"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "reminded Susan of the snout of a boxer"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "or another short snouted dog. Either"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "way, she realized that it was definitely"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "not flat like a human's face. And in"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "even its arms, they hung in its sides,"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "and they too seemed to be more muscular"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "at the top, and they trailed down to the"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "end in long paws. Each finger, though,"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "displayed claws big enough to be"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "noticeable, even in the dim light from"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "the neighboring houses and street"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "lights. And like the arms, the thighs"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "were also muscular, but thinned"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "considerably down toward the lower"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "limbs. She knew that there was only one"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "way to describe them. They were the legs"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "of a canine. And now she could only"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "guess that the thing seemed to have come"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "out from a small thicket at the back of"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "another neighbor's yard. It was walking"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "through a mulched area on the lot lines"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "between her property and the neighbors"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "behind her. And she could see that it"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "didn't move flatfooted, but instead"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "walked on its toe pads just like a dog"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "does. And she isn't sure exactly how"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "long she watched this thing. All that"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "she knows is that as she stood frozen on"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "her deck, this thing suddenly swiveled"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "its gray head around and looked directly"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "at her. And even though there wasn't"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "enough light hitting its face for her to"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "make out its eyes or any glow that they"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "threw back, she absolutely knew that it"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "saw her. And folks, worst of all, it"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "didn't react like a typical animal"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "would. An animal would be scared, right?"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "But this didn't scamper away or freeze."}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "This thing realized that she was"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "watching it and in her own words kept on"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "walking on both legs like it didn't"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "care. It was at that moment that Susan"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "realized she might be in danger and"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "decided that she'd seen enough. She"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "reached down, snatched up her little"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "dog, darted back inside her house,"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "closing and locking the door behind her."}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "And safe to say, she didn't sleep a wink"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "the entire night. Well, the following"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "morning rolls around and Susan did"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "something that most people in her"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "situation probably wouldn't do. Instead"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "of just trying to convince herself that"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "she had imagined the whole thing, she"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "picked up the phone and dialed the"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "police. And she told them exactly what"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "she had seen, knowing full well that"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "they might think she's crazy. Even when"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "she was speaking to them on the phone,"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "she fully expected them to laugh at her"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "or tell her that she must have been"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "seeing things. I mean, this is"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "Wisconsin. Maybe told her to lay off the"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "booze for a few days, too. But to her"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "surprise, the officer on the phone"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "didn't make fun of her. In fact, he"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "informed her that he believed her, and"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "he even advised her to exercise caution."}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "So, when she asked if there had been"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "other reports like hers, the officer"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "wouldn't answer her. And that only made"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "Susan wonder if other people had seen"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "something similar and that she wasn't"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "crazy. Well, a few days later on Sunday,"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "July 20th, she noticed that her dog was"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "acting weird again. And whenever it went"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "near the rear patio door, her dog would"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "just start whining and crying. And it"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "got to the point where Susan had to"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "start taking it out through the front"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "yard instead. Now, again, this wasn't"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "normal behavior for her dog, and it"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "really concerned Susan enough that she"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "decided to reach out to someone who"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "might be able to help her make sense of"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "what was happening. So, she went online"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "and found a researcher by the name of"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Linda Godfrey. Now, Linda is an"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "investigator who specializes in unusual"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "animal sightings, particularly those"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "involving canine-like creatures walking"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "on two legs. You know, she explained"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "what she had seen in her backyard. A"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "phone interview immediately followed the"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "next day. Linda was actually thrilled"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "that Susan had contacted her so quickly"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "after the incident. And in these types"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "of investigations,"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "time is very important because evidence"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "like footprints or even hair samples can"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "be destroyed by rain, wind, or you know,"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "even just yard maintenance. Linda too"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "lived in Wisconsin, and Linda came out"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "to her house on Tuesday, July 22nd."}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "After talking with Susan and getting to"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "know her better, Linda was very"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "impressed by how straightforward she was"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "and just how genuine she seemed in her"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "experience. Susan was obviously"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "determined to find out what that thing"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "was in her yard. And in fact, she even"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "made a sketch of what she had seen. The"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "two women actually started examining the"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "property, beginning with the deck where"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "Susan had been standing on the night"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "when she spotted this thing. They then"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "moved to the back of the yard in the"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "general area where Susan had seen it"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "walking. And that's when they found"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "something significant. A number of deep"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "impressions in the mulch and dirt. and"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "they were right along the same path that"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "this thing had taken just days earlier."}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "And actually, there were two different"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "kinds of tracks. Some were clearly just"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "from deer, but the others were shaped"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "like those of a dog and measured between"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "4 and 1/2 to 5 in long. But what made"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "these tracks especially interesting was"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "how clear they were, despite being in"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "mulch, which doesn't typically hold"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "tracks very well, and having been there"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "for around 5 days. Now, from what Linda"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "could tell, these footprints seem to"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "have come from the hind feet of"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "something walking on two legs. And, you"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "know, they followed this path leading"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "from where Susan had seen it toward a"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "small patch of adjacent trees. On"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "average, the tracks were about an inch"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "deep, which suggested they were made by"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "something really heavy, heavier than"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "either of them. In fact, when Linda and"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "Susan tried to recreate similar"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "impressions, you know, by jumping up and"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "down in the mulch, they couldn't even"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "make any sort of dent at all. But"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "perhaps the most disturbing discovery"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "came when Susan and Linda realized that"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "there were also similar prints in the"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "mulch beds near the foundation of her"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "house, actually underneath some of the"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "windows. And one of those windows led to"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "the bedroom of Susan's child, her"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "special needs one. That's when she"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "revealed something that she hadn't"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "mentioned before. Almost nightly, her"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "child had been crying for the past month"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "about a monster peeking in through her"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "bedroom window. But every time Susan got"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "there, whatever it was had vanished."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "She'd always figured it was just her"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "child's imagination until she saw the"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "tracks under the window. Now she was"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "definitely starting to have her doubts."}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "And as Susan and and Linda kept poking"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "around, they noticed a couple of piles"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "of animal droppings. One they found near"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "the house. Another pile was out in the"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "backyard. So, Linda took a look and"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "figured they were way too small to have"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "come from, you know, the six- foot tall"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "thing that Susan had seen. Even still,"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "Linda was convinced that something odd"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "was happening on her property. Now,"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "Linda fully realized that the idea of a"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "tall wolf-like creature walking around a"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "suburban neighborhood might sound a"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "little out there for people, but she"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "pointed out that H Heartland might"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "actually be a good spot for something"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "like that to hide out. For starters,"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "there's no shortage of water with"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "Pewwaukee Lake and eight other small"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "lakes nearby. Plus, the Kettle Marine"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "State Forest, which is a place with a"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "long history of crypted sightings, isn't"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "that far to the north either. So, when"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "Linda asked if Susan had ever heard of"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "similar sightings, she just said no. But"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "she was 100% sure of what she'd seen."}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "And folks, it wasn't a bear. And so,"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "Susan told Linda that the main reason"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "she was speaking up at all was because"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "she thought people ought to know. Linda"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "asked Susan to stay in touch as she got"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "ready to leave. But that was when Susan"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "dropped something else that took things"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "to a whole new level. You see, while she"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "hadn't heard of any similar sightings"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "nearby, this wasn't Susan's first"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "strange experience on that property. In"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "fact, about 3 years earlier, a massive"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "white wolf-like animal had walked right"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "up to her patio door and just stood"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "there staring at the hot tub inside for"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "several moments with this pair of"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "unnatural icy blue eyes. Susan had been"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "inside at the time just a few feet from"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "the glass and had gotten a really clear"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "look. And this thing walked on all fours"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "and looked like it stood about 3 feet"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "tall at the shoulder. While it clearly"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "wasn't the same thing she'd seen more"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "recently, it still creeped her out. And"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "she said that after a little while, the"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "white wolf with the blue eyes had just"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "turned and walked away calmly. And after"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "Linda left, she decided to call the"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "police again. And she asked if anyone"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "else had phoned in recently with any"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "more sightings. The officer she spoke to"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "said no, but said that he'd tell the"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "department to keep it in mind. With a"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "little convincing, she got that same"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "officer to admit that some of the night"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "shift cops had mentioned something about"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "an unknown animal in the area. That's"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "all she learned, though. So, in the"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "meantime, Linda was checking the police"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "logs in the newspaper to see if there"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "had been any more official mention of,"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "you know, some strange unusual animal in"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "the area. That night, July 22nd, after"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "Linda had already left, Susan decided to"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "be proactive. She pulled her motion"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "sensor trail camera out of storage,"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "mounted it on the deck's pergola,"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "pointing it toward the backyard, and she"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "made sure to put in fresh batteries. So,"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "when she went out and checked the camera"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "the following morning, there was"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "nothing. But it wasn't because the"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "camera hadn't taken any pictures. It was"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "because the new batteries had somehow"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "died overnight. She realized how odd"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "this was, but knew there was nothing to"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "do other than replace him again. And"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "this time, she just decided to just"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "forget about the camera and leave it"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "running for a couple of weeks. But only"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "days later, she found something new that"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "made her wonder if her intruder had"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "actually returned. You see, on the"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "siding of the house, just about 4 ft off"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "the ground, there was a weird mark. It"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "was like a single paw print made out of"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "thin mud or silt. And it measured just"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "over 4 in, right around the size of the"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "tracks she and Linda had found earlier."}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "And in fact, it was in a really weird"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "spot, too. About four feet off the"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "ground, too high up for a raccoon or her"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "little dog. And nobody in the family had"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "hands that size either. She took photos"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "of both the print and the tracks and"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "emailed them to Linda, who decided it"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "was time for another trip to H"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "Heartland. So, she came back on Friday,"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "July 25th, to measure and document"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "everything. and see if she can find any"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "fur or other signs on the trees nearby."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "She also asked Susan if she and her"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "husband would be up for doing a"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "nighttime stakeout next time activity"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "picked up. So, they agreed. They didn't"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "have to wait very long, though, because"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "on Sunday, August 10th, Susan emailed"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "Linda with another update. Just a few"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "days earlier, she'd taken out her dog on"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "the deck in the early morning like"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "before. It was around 1:30 and also she"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "had seen a large figure in the backyard,"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "but this time it was standing under the"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "neighbor's big maple tree. She didn't"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "want to wake her husband and she"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "understandably didn't want to go out"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "into the yard by herself to investigate,"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "but it didn't feel safe indoors. That"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "was because on top of the, you know,"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "monster peering through the window,"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "Susan now said that her child had"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "started talking about a ghost in her"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "bedroom. I mean, she hadn't seen"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "anything herself, but she knew better"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "than to shrug it off after what happened"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "last time. Things went quiet for a"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "couple of weeks, but then on this night"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "of Sunday, August 31st, Susan stepped"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "outside with the dog again. And at this"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "point, she'd given up on heading out to"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "the deck and this time chose a different"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "door, the one leading to the patio. It"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "was between 11:30 p.m. and midnight, and"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "the night was calm and still, and she"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "wasn't outside long before she heard"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "this loud cracking sound. It was like a"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "tree branch snapping, but it was coming"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "from the neighbor's yard. And in the"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "calm stillness of the night, it was it"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "was so loud, it was like a gunshot. And"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "keep in mind, there was no wind, so"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "there was no reason for this branch to"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "just break on its own. And she's"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "terrified at this point. She froze and"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "her heart is beginning to beat so loud"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "that it feels like it's going to beat"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "out of her chest. She rushed the dog"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "back inside, slamming the patio door"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "shut. And now her hands are shaking so"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "badly she could barely pull the curtains"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "closed. She starts to get pale. She"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "could feel the blood draining out of her"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "face. And for just that moment, she has"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "the worst thoughts running through her"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "mind. She just stood there frozen in her"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "living room trying to calm herself and"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "do some deep breathing exercises and"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "just convincing herself she was simply"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "overreacting. Immediately she hears"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "something else, something closer to the"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "house. It sounded like someone walking"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "around on her patio. whoever was out"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "there. She could tell that the footsteps"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "were not only deliberate, but slow, and"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "they were moving from one end to the"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "other, almost as if whoever it was was"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "casing the house or looking for a weak"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "entry point. And these weren't the light"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "scurring sounds of a small animal. Let"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "me tell you, the they were heavy and"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "purposeful. And at this point, she feels"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "like she's going to pass out. That's how"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "much blood is leaving her face."}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "Something inside of her told her that"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "whatever was out there was the same"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "thing that she had been seeing over the"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "past 6 weeks or two months just on the"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "other side of the curtains. So, she"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "backed away from the door and ran to go"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "get her husband. But when he finally"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "woke up, she was frantically whispering"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "to him that somebody was out there on"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "the patio and that he needed to do"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "something now. you know, he was kind of"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "like blowing her off and, you know, he"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "mumbled a few words and simply headed"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "out of the bedroom, thinking that she"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "was completely overreacting. A minute"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "later, she hears him sliding the door to"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "the patio open and Susan listened. At"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "this point, her heart is nearly in her"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "throat. She's doing everything she can"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "to keep it together. And she could hear"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "her husband walking around, you know,"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "checking the yard, just completely not"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "believing a word that his wife had said"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "to him. And after several moments, which"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "was probably only like, you know, maybe"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "3 or 4 minutes, he comes back inside."}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "He's acting like it's no big deal. And"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "he just tells her, \"Look, Susan, there's"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "nobody out there. I looked over the"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "entire yard. You're losing it. I even"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "looked over the fences. I looked behind"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "every bush and tree. Honey, let's face"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "it, there's there's nothing. You're"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "cracking up.\" But that explanation"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "wasn't good enough for her because she"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "knew, well, she suspected that whoever"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "or whatever was out there was actually"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "hiding. and had been watching her"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "husband as he searched the property."}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "Come to find out, the next day, Susan,"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "of course, remembered the trail camera."}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "It should have caught whatever was out"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "there on the patio, but once again, the"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "batteries were somehow dead. And Susan"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "was just at a complete loss. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "just was it normal for new batteries to"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "die that quick? But still, she replaced"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "them anyway and hoped that they would"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "last longer this time. Well, fast"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "forward to the following evening. Both"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "Susan's child and the dog were up most"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "of the night, restless, and they felt"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "agitated for no real apparent reason. On"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "the morning of Tuesday, September 2nd,"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "Susan checked the camera first thing."}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "And surprisingly, this time it actually"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "captured something. She actually had to"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "kind of double take, you know, for a"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "moment or two to realize what she was"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "looking at. And in the first two photos,"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "which were snapped just several seconds"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "apart, showed a bright light from the"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "neighbor's patio on the left and on the"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "right, this thick translucent column of"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "mist. It was only a few feet from the"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "deck, and in both photos showed a denser"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "shape in the center of the mist that"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "looked, well, kind of like a figure."}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "Linda Godfrey said that both she and"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "Susan thought it almost looked like a"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "vague combination of a human being and"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "an animal. The third photo was taken"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "around 7 hours after the first two. Even"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "though it was still dark outside, the"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "camera's date and time weren't properly"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "set, so they couldn't tell exactly when."}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "But what made this image so strange was"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "that it was mostly obscured by these"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "translucent round purple shapes that"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "both reflect and absorb the camera's"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "flash. The only clue that it was even"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "taken in her backyard was because you"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "could see the neighbor's patio light and"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "it was in the exact same spot as before."}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "Although now the haze was just a tiny"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "glimmer. Linda was pretty stumped on"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "this one because it looked like whatever"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "was in the frame was actually much"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "closer to the camera than in the"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "previous shots. And while it looked sort"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "of organic to her, it didn't resemble"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "any part of an insect, bird, or animal"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "that she knew. And keep in mind that for"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "this whole time, the camera had not been"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "moved. It had not been messed with at"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "all, and it was still securely fastened"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "to the deck's support post."}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "Unfortunately, even after hours of"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "scouring online for an answer, the only"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "real explanation that they could find"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "was that the camera had captured lens"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "flares from the neighbor's patio light,"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "but it wasn't good enough because that"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "didn't explain the twisting shape inside"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "the mist. And the purple globes, well,"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "they just weren't sure. So, Linda,"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "taking things a step further, actually"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "reached out to a dedicated photo"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "analysis website. They floated a few"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "other ideas. Maybe the strange shapes"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "were insects caught in the flash, you"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "know, someone's breath fogging the lens,"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "or maybe some kind of unusual ground"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "mist that just happened to stick around"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "long enough for two shots. However, as"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "far as what triggered the motion sensor,"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "they had no clue. Linda knew that in"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "order to get to the bottom of this, they"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "were going to have to take that whole"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "overnight stake out much more seriously."}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "Linda began by scouting the neighborhood"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "by car and on foot, just trying to"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "figure out how much cover a large"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "creature might have if it really wanted"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "to move around without being seen. And"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "to her surprise, there were plenty of"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "wooded pockets. I mean, there was even a"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "possible route out toward US Highway 16,"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "which led right back to moral rural"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "areas. Susan's deck turned out to be the"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "perfect vantage point as well. With"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "cameras, flashlights, and an audio"}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "recorder ready, she and Linda set up for"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "a night of watching and waiting. And so,"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "when it was time, the night was warm, it"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "was clear, there was no rain. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "this was perfect, ideal conditions."}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "Unfortunately, the only animals that had"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "wandered into view were a scruffy"}, {"end": "00:21:38", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "looking raccoon and a small coyote"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "nosing around some trash. Even though"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:38", "text": "Linda Godfrey went home empty-handed"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "that night, she was not about to give"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "up. Throughout the fall and winter, it"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "seemed like the strange activity had"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "finally died down. But the strangest was"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "yet to come. One night in early January"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "of 2015, Susan suddenly heard her child"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "screaming from the kitchen. This was a"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "scream of pure terror. And in response,"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "she looked up and found her child"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "rushing to her, visibly shaking with"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "fear. The only thing the kid could say"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "was, \"Make it go away. Make it go away.\""}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "Which they just kept repeating over and"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "over and continuously pointed in the"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "direction of the kitchen. Susan, who's"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "now terrified as well, followed her"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "child's finger and saw that she was"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "pointing in the direction of the door"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "that led to the back deck. However,"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "Susan couldn't see anything unusual. But"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "she also knew not to take her child's"}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "warnings for granted. In an effort to"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "console her terrified child, she learned"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "that there was supposedly a dark figure"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "standing right by the back deck door in"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "the kitchen. and not really knowing what"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "else to do, she kind of just, you know,"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "looked toward the spot in the kitchen"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "where her child was pointing and firmly"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "told this thing that whatever it was, it"}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "needed to leave the house right now and"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "it was not welcome there. And right"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "after she said that, Susan felt this"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "sudden change in the atmosphere. It was"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "like this heaviness that she hadn't"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "realized was even there had suddenly"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "lifted. Her child immediately calmed"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "down. When Susan asked if the dark"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "figure was gone, her child had nodded"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "yes. A few nights later, Susan was in"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "her house when she noticed that the"}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "family dog had started acting really"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "strange again. It was running back and"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "forth, acting almost like it was playing"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "with someone, except there was nobody"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "there. So, she called to her dog and it"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "just continued to ignore her and do its"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "weird behavior. And so, finally, she"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "stepped closer to see if she could"}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "figure out what's going on. And when she"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "stepped into the living room, which was"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "now dark, it suddenly stopped running"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "around. But it wasn't facing Susan, it"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "was actually facing the wall. And now it"}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "was barking aggressively at the wall as"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "if it was reacting to someone or"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "something that Susan couldn't see."}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "Almost instantly, she just feels this"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "wave of unadulterated evil wash over"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "her. And the hairs on the back of her"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "neck stand up, and her entire body"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "reacts to this presence. That's she all"}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "of a sudden feels is here. She quickly"}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "turns on all the lights and checks"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "around the house, but of course there's"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "nothing. But the feeling didn't go away"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "and she just kept feeling that something"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "wasn't right. And that feeling never"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "left. In fact, the house felt more evil"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "and oppressive than it ever had. But she"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "was forced to live with it for the time"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "being. Now, over the next couple of"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "weeks, all throughout January, she began"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "noticing other strange things happening"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "in her house. I mean, for instance, she"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "would remember opening her bedroom door"}, {"end": "00:24:44", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "only to find it closed when she saw it"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "the next time. And, you know, she"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:44", "text": "thought maybe she was closing it by"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "accident or, you know, maybe that it was"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "off center, but she had never noticed"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "anything like that before. And neither"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "her husband nor her child ever admitted"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "to messing with it. There was one"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "evening where her child swore that she"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "had been woken up by a sudden flash of"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "bright light that burst from the closet,"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "like a camera flash. But of course, you"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "know, when Susan looked, there was"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "nothing inside that could have possibly"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "caused it. Now, there were no toys or"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "electronics or light fixtures. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "it was impossible. There was just"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "clothes and stuff. During this time, in"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "broad daylight, Susan was filming her"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "dog playing with a toy in the living"}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "room. And later, when she was"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "re-watching the video, she noticed this"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "weird growling noise in the background"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "that she hadn't heard when she was"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "recording it. She assumed it was just"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "her dog. But as she kept watching it"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "carefully and listening more, it was"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "obvious that her dog wasn't making the"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "noise at all. Completely freaked out by"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "this, she actually shared it with Linda."}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "And you know, after watching it, Linda"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "agreed that the growl didn't come from"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "her dog, that something else in the"}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "background was growling. And you know,"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "when you add all this strange stuff that"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "had been going on for the last 6 months,"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "there was something happening."}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "Unfortunately, it just continued to"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "intensify. And there would be times, you"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "know, when Susan would be at home alone,"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "and she would hear these distinct"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "knocking sounds coming from different"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "areas of the house. Sometimes it was"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "like it was actually inside the walls,"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "but other times it sounded like somebody"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "was knocking on a door or a window from"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "outside. And even though she checked"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "thoroughly inside and outside, there was"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "never a single trace of somebody being"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "there. Additionally, she had also heard"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "footsteps echoing throughout the house"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "at random times of the day. Again,"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "nobody was there at this point. She was"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "understandably desperate for just any"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "kind of explanation or solution. Even"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "though she wasn't religious, she began"}, {"end": "00:26:44", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "saying protective prayers all around her"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "home. And you know, she would go to each"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:44", "text": "window and door and say the prayer and"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "begin asking for protection and for"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "whatever was in her home to leave. Now,"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "to her surprise, after she started doing"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "this, things did begin to calm down. And"}, {"end": "00:27:00", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "even after a short amount of time, her"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "dog seemed to return to its normal"}, {"end": "00:27:05", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "behavior. Unfortunately, it isn't clear"}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "from Linda Godfrey's report if Susan"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:05", "text": "finally banished whatever was on her"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "property or if it simply went somewhere"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "else. In early February, Susan got a"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "call from her contact at the local"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "police department, and the officer"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "explained to her that another woman, who"}, {"end": "00:27:23", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "just happened to live a block away from"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "her, had reported something very"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:23", "text": "strange. This neighbor had discovered"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "large unusual animal tracks crossing her"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "yard and circling her house. And of"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "course, the tracks didn't match any"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "known wildlife, and they seem to have"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "just appeared overnight. Susan was of"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "course terrified and she realized that"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "whatever had been stalking her home was"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "now onto this person's house. Since"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "early 2015, things at Susan's house have"}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "remained relatively quiet. You know,"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "she's kept up the trail cameras. She's"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "added more lights to the patio. And"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "while she's still gotten a few odd"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "images, none have really clearly"}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "revealed what might be lurking around"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "her property. But what happened to her"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:03", "text": "and her family isn't an isolated event."}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "It is just one instance in a growing"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "number of reports stretching across"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "rural and suburban America. The evidence"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "that Linda Godfrey uncovered, from"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "strange tracks to these odd photographs,"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "suggest something far more disturbing"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "than just an animal. That there was a"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "presence on the property, something far"}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "beyond what we think we understand."}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "Because you guys have made it to the end"}, {"end": "00:28:33", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "of this episode, I want to know what you"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "think. So, leave a comment. If nothing"}, {"end": "00:28:37", "start": "00:28:33", "text": "else, I want you to comment down below."}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "make it go away so I know which ones of"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:37", "text": "you made it to the end and who didn't."}, {"end": "00:28:43", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "And you know, you should totally slap"}, {"end": "00:28:45", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "that like and subscribe button too, you"}, {"end": "00:28:48", "start": "00:28:43", "text": "know, so you can watch more content just"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "like this. Never forget, I love you all."}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "Keep an open mind and I'll see you all"}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "in the very next episode."}]

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move in together together uh but the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "house that they were living in was too"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "small and the house that we were living"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "in was too small so we uh decided to"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "find a house together and uh we had"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "picked Alder Grove and at that time uh"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "Craigslist was the place to find places"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "to rent um so that's where we went we"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "went on to Craigslist and we found this"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "home and we went and we looked at it and"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "it was gorgeous like I couldn't even"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", 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"00:05:56", "text": "like my wife like where is this clothes"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "coming from and so he's thinking we're"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "doing all these weird things and he"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "comes home and like the Taps are on and"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "like the bathroom was flooded one day"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "and he's like what are these girls doing"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "like get your head straight kind of"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "thing um so then this is progressively"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "things are ramping up and so now my"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "mental health is depleting even when"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "there wasn't something happening you"}, {"end": "00:06:24", 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"bathroom well we had one bathroom that"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "had um a shower we had like four"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "bathrooms but only one of them had like"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "the shower in the bathroom and stuff so"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "anyway so I was in the shower and I I"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "could just feel something behind me but"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "again I'm I'm trying to just say oh it's"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "all in your head it's all in your head"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "and then I felt something touch me like"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "I I felt a hand go down my back and"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "I like I know it was a hand because it"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "was cold and I could feel five fingers"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "and I felt it touch my back and I just"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "screamed and I jumped out of the"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "bathroom grabbed my towel and just ran"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "like literally ran out of the house in a"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "towel and was like okay well now what do"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "I do because now I have no phone and no"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "like no way and I'm just like like a"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "towel like tiptoeing through the house"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "trying to find my phone and run back out"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "of the house and call my dad and so I"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "ended up going to the hospital because I"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "was just so I didn't know what was real"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "anymore like it was so bad and I ended"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "up living there for a month then my dad"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "and stepmom came to the hospital and"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "they said you're not crazy there is"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "something going on with the house"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "because I guess when I was gone then it"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "was only my dad and my stepmom so"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "there's there's nobody else who could be"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "doing these things and things were still"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "happening and getting worse for example"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "the stuff that my dad seen was he would"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "be in bed and he'd see like the door"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "handle jiggling into the bedroom lights"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "turning on and off um the front door it"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "was the weirdest front door it had keys"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "to the front like to the inside and the"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "outside complete like fire hazard like"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "if you didn't have a key to get out of"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "the house then you would like have to"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "bust a window or something to get out or"}, 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home alone"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "like what is going on here and he's like"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "banging at the windows and stuff like"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "and he saw a shadow like pass by and"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "he's like still going at the door and"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "all of a sudden the door unlocked and"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "then he was like what is going on like"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "my Dad's friend who was the tenant he"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "lived downstairs and unfortunately he's"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "not alive anymore so we can't really ask"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "him but he would not talk about he he"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "only lasted a month not even a full"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "month actually he gave some excuse of"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "like oh I want to be in sui my dad's"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "like well you work all over the place"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "like you know and he's like no no I'm"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "just I'm I'm moving and then a few years"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "later when my dad was talking about the"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "house he said yeah I had experiences"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "he's like that basement was all of us"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "were terrified to go down in that"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "basement it looked like they had it as"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "set up as a shop like like the old owner"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "had it as his shop and so along the"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "front side it was like a workbench that"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "was physically built in and then to the"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "right was it looked like there was more"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "uh like turntables"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "um like music stuff like all from the"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "70s and then to the right was all still"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "their stuff like they had boxes and"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "boxes of all their stuff and that's"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "where my dad thinks that the like when"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "he looks back now um he thinks that"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "that's where the clothes came from for"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "the laundry because when he was pulling"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "all the clothes out of the washer he's"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "like this like this isn't Aly this isn't"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "Morgan's this isn't my wife's like whose"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "clothes is this so he suspects that it"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "came from those um boxes downstairs it's"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "not like things happened down there like"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "they did in the living room in the"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "kitchen um but it just felt so evil down"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "there so dark and so evil and when you"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "were in other parts of the house you"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "felt watched but when you were"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "downstairs it felt like something was"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "like right behind you like physically"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "like looming over you right behind you"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "like at any second you could be grabbed"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "or touched if you went in the basement"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "or if you had to get something for"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "basement or put something in the"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "basement you would run like literally"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "run or I would just like avoid doing it"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "I just my dad said I'll go put that in"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "the basement I'd be like yeah yeah but"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "the living room like I wouldn't sit in"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "the living room unless there was"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "somebody else in the living room it was"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "something about the living room and"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "kitchen area that"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "was that was where all the activity"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "happened and so it's interesting because"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "that was an addition the living room and"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "the um kitchen was an addition to 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hallway and he knew that"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "his like wife was away working and she"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "worked in Siri at the time which is like"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "approximately half an hour to 45 minutes"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "away from our house I got back from the"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "hospital and during that time period I"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "had a boyfriend um who also thought that"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "I'm crazy which didn't really help we"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "were just kind of hanging at home I had"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "gone back to school yet and he was over"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "at the house and it was just him and I"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "my dad was at work ex said at work we're"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "sitting in my room and the door is"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "closed and we hear walk like footsteps"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "down the hallway and not only do we hear"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "the footsteps down the hallway we see"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "like a shadow pass in front of the door"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "like you know how footsteps would be"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "right well we see those Shadows too and"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "his all the color just drained from his"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "face and I'm like I told you I told you"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "and then as soon as that moment passed"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "we're like okay well what do we do now"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "cuz now we're home alone and like we"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "just saw this thing go by so we"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "basically just camped out in the room"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "and I called my dad um to leave work and"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "he came and rescued us essentially which"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "was just coming home and getting us out"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "of the house and then that same night my"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "boyfriend had spent the night because I"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "was too scared to sleep alone and we"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "woken up to someone in the kitchen and"}, {"end": "00:16:58", 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"start": "00:17:17", "text": "were terrified of what's going on right"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "so we all just kind of like retreated"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "back into our rooms and the way the"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "house was situated was it was like a u"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "like this and this back part the entire"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "back part was the main bedroom I guess"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "it used to be an original trailer and"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "they just turned it into a huge room so"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "that was my parents room and we all just"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "kind of hid in that room for the night"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "the next morning we go out and it"}, {"end": 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having all"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "this stuff happening around the house"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "that you know he's never believed before"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "and then now it's like happening to him"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "that he ended up not going to work one"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "of those days like I can't remember"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "exactly what it was but he had taken a"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "day off like a whole week of work and so"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "I went to the house and I was like well"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "why don't we set up a camera like we had"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "a video camera so we did and we set it"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "up in the 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"this wall and at the back of the wall"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "had a built-in record player cuz it was"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "a very very old house and it had like"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "you know that orange stained glass from"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "the' 70s it had that and had lights"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "behind that and so the lights were"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "always on um and then it had like a"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "chandelier it looked like something had"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "passed in front of that because it"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "looked like the lights were kind of"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "going in and out and then off the living"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "room was where my bedroom used to be and"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "the door was like half open and so we"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "see this something pass in front and"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "then we see the door kind of open and"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "we're just like like this is real like"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "this is actually like we caught this on"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "film and then guess my dad said he"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "doesn't really talk about what happened"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "to him when he was alone at the house"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "but he said that he ended up taking that"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "video camera like the whole video camera"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "and burning it because he said that it"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "pissed it off so much yeah he he went"}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "and burnt it in the back of the yard"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "because he's like like I don't even know"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "what else to do this one time um he came"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "like we came home was a fireplace in the"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "living room so actually the fireplace"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "was like the chitchen living room was"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "like this and the fireplace was in the"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "middle like in an island and then you"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "can walk around the fireplace and so in"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "that fireplace when we came home there"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "was a log that had been burnt and nobody"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "was there cuz this uh tenant downstairs"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "had moved out already so now at this"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "point it's just me my dad and my stepmom"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "and like yeah Morgan came and visited"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "all the time she just didn't live in the"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "house the fire there was a log that had"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "been burnt and we didn't use the"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "fireplace because you know like"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "insurance and all that type of stuff"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "like we don't know the last time that"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "Chim was cleaned so we never used it so"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "it's like did someone break in and burn"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "a log in our house like and as you saw"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "like we are off the beaten path so it's"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "not like people are breaking in out"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "there like it's not it's not like in the"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "inner cities or something so during that"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "week that he was off um on the property"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "like it was a very very long driveway"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "and we lived at the top and then at the"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "very bottom there was a trailer that I"}, {"end": "00:21:38", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "guess the owner also had rented out and"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "so he went down to that trailer and was"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:38", "text": "like I'm going to sound crazy to you"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "guys but do you have any weird things"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "happening here and the guy looked him"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "dead in the eye and said he was this"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "Jamaican man and he's like no man he's"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "like yeah we have weird stuff happening"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "but probably not as bad as happening up"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "to your house and my dad was like wow"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "this is like what what and so he said"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "yeah like when they first moved here it"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "sounded like someone was breaking into"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "their house and he would get up in the"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "middle of night with a bat and there'd"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "be nobody there but the window would be"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "open or the door would be open and he"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "like I know I locked the door and stuff"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "like that I guess the guy was also kind"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "of thinking if he was crazy but I guess"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "they 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"apparently what was discovered the"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "original owner of the house so there"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "when we rented the property there was a"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "man and a wife the man looked about 100"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "years old and the wife looked probably"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "50 and so the man had a wife and they"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "were originally building the house and"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "that was that original addition where"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "the main bedroom was and then um the"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "wife died of cancer and he got a new"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "wife and then that new wife they started"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "building the rest of the house her"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "daughter died what this median had"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "discovered was that it was like this um"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "spiritual warfare between the wife the"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "daughter and allegedly there was this"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "other entity who lived there from the"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "1800s at the original property owner who"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "still lived there so they're all like"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "fighting over who is going to live on"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "this property that's what he that I mean"}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "that's what he said right like how do"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "you fact check that the only thing I"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "could fact check is yes the wife did die"}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "and yes the daughter did die she died on"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "the street um in a car crash coming out"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "of the parking lot like kind coming out"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "of our driveway I should say those"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "people did actually pass away so I don't"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "know if like the media knew that or or"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "what this is what kind of like made me"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "believe the medium more because we never"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "told them what Avenues we tried to get"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "rid of whatever was in the house like we"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "never said oh we tried this or we tried"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "that we just said this is what we're"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "experiencing and so when the medium came"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "she said that when my he didn't say when"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "my grandma came but he she said that"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "someone who came who was spreading holy"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "water or something like that they were"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "chasing it around the room and so"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "remember when I was saying like my"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "grandma and my aunt were physically"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "going around my room like they were"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "going into my closet and they were going"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "under my bed and they were going all"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "over the room well this person said that"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "that they were feeling that they were"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "chasing this thing around the room so I"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "I don't know but apparently this person"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "physically saw like when they were"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "regaining however they do their psychic"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "whatever they do they saw this thing"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "being chased around the room by my"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "grandma who was throwing holy water"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "around the room I was born and raised"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "Ukrainian Catholic there is no good"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "entities it's just like when someone"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "dies they go to heaven or they go to"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "hell and that's it and so there's no"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "like oh if your grandpa comes that's"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "nice it's like no there's you're either"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "crazy because you're experiencing you"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "think you're experiencing Spirits or"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "you're not and it's just like a cat"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "walking by or something there's no"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "middle ground and so even if there was a"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "good entity in our house like not how do"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "I say this not good but just um like"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "someone who's passed on my grandma still"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "would have done the things that she did"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "because in her mind she's trying to pass"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "them along or get them to where they"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "need to go or get them out of the house"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "so I don't think my grandma physically"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "knew what she was doing she was just"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "trying to get something out of the house"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "before I had went to the hospital before"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "my dad had said oh this is reality my"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "dad had was at the grocery store in"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "Alder Grove just like at the local"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "grocery store and he ran into a friend"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "from way back when like someone he knew"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "in high school he's like oh hey how's it"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "going and oh what are you doing in Alder"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "Grove and my dad said that oh we moved"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "here and stuff he's like yeah my dad was"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "describing oh it's this beautiful house"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "and it has a lake and there's fish in it"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "I can go fishing and he's just talking"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "about this house and the guy says he"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "starts describing the house he says is"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "it like a house it's got a you and"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "there's a hot tub deck and my dad's like"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "yeah yeah that's the house off 10th"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "Avenue he's like yeah he's like oh I"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "heard some crazy went down at that house"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "oh sorry but he's like oh like what do"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "you mean and he said oh well yeah I went"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "there to do some electrician work and um"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "it was my day off and so I went there"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "with my wife and uh when my wife was"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "walking around with the owner's wife and"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "the owner's wife was saying that she"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:55", "text": "can't live in this house anymore because"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "she's seeing like apparition of her"}, {"end": "00:27:03", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "daughter all over the property and so"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "she doesn't know if she's going crazy if"}, {"end": "00:27:05", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "she's really seeing these things and so"}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "they're just they're leaving they're"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:05", "text": "selling everything and they're going to"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "the Baja and so my dad had heard that he"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "was like kind of like oh yeah okay like"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "and so then when this medium said it's"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "the spiritual warfare between the"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "daughter and the wife he's like what"}, {"end": "00:27:23", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "like after our interview Ally reached"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "out to her father to dig for additional"}, {"end": "00:27:29", "start": "00:27:23", "text": "information or any memories that he had"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "and in fact she shared these text with"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:29", "text": "me Ali's stepmother had a grandson who"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "was just a baby at the time and was over"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "at the house visiting at the time the"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "Stepmom was in the kitchen with him in"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "the living room and she came back to him"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "taken out of his car seat days after the"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "interview the plan was for Ally to call"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "her father and record him answering just"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "a few questions because she thought it"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "would be great for the interview however"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "her father simply couldn't he was too"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "terrified to relive the moment he had"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "endured at the house alone it brings him"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "back to the most frightening moments of"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "his life he felt that when you're"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "fighting the supernatural you're"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "helpless and there's nothing you can do"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "after on I realized that it was just"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "what was ever was going on but during"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "that time period I also thought I was"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "going to going through dietary problems"}, {"end": 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{"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "girlfriend anymore and so he and then"}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "also because now she's not living there"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "they're not together anymore so now it's"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:11", "text": "just his income taking care of the house"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "and like yes the rent wasn't that much"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "to heat a house of that size and we had"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:19", "text": "to pay for water of a house of that size"}, {"end": "00:29:25", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "and there's just there was a lot of"}, {"end": "00:29:27", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "bills that you know one person can't do"}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:25", "text": "and then like I was saying he had never"}, {"end": "00:29:32", "start": "00:29:27", "text": "missed work and so for 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pick up a pot and a pan and"}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "move doors and stuff is like what's"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:57", "text": "stopping it from from physically hurting"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "us or touching me in the shower like"}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "it's no longer there actually I went to"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "take my daughter there so I actually"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "only live a few blocks away from it now"}, {"end": "00:30:14", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "ironically like in this weird Twist of"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "events like I had we lived in the house"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:14", "text": "all moved out and I moved to sui and my"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "stepmom live moved away like We all"}, {"end": "00:30:23", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "moved away and then when I was older and"}, {"end": "00:30:25", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "looking to purchase a home I was like oh"}, {"end": "00:30:27", "start": "00:30:23", "text": "Alder grow is pretty cheap so I ended up"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:25", "text": "purchasing a home like rather close to"}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:27", "text": "it but anyways I was telling my daughter"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "like oh I used to live in a house really"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "close to here um do you want to go look"}, {"end": "00:30:39", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "at it and so we drove down and it's"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "completely gone now the whole house is"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:39", "text": "demolished I tried actually going back"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "into historical records and trying to"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "find how the land was plotted out um but"}, {"end": "00:30:53", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "I didn't really know what to look for"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "but according to the median yeah there"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:53", "text": "was an owner in the 1800s and he owned"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:57", "text": "it and died or something something to do"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "with arrowheads like I don't know how"}, {"end": "00:31:06", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "truthful or accurate that is but that's"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "what they said and then then there was"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:06", "text": "this new owner that bought it in the 40s"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "I believe and then he owned it well now"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "that I'm older and like now I'm a mom so"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "now I have this like Mama Bear mentality"}, {"end": "00:31:23", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "about me if I was me now living in that"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "house without children like I would"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:23", "text": "never put my children through that"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "probably would have you know you know"}, {"end": "00:31:33", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "maybe invited some paranormal people"}, {"end": "00:31:35", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "into it or maybe tried to go to a"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "historian and and done more research on"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:35", "text": "the property and like tried to see what"}, {"end": "00:31:43", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "I could figure out more um but"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "definitely you know if I already had"}, {"end": "00:31:48", "start": "00:31:43", "text": "went to the the hospital because I'm"}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "thinking I'm going crazy um or things"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:48", "text": "can physically touch you because from"}, {"end": "00:31:54", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "what I hear um there's entities that"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "can't really break through the veil and"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:54", "text": "they can't touch you but sometimes they"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "can or some things can touch you and if"}, {"end": "00:32:04", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "this thing or things were physically"}, {"end": "00:32:05", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "able to touch us and touch things then"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:04", "text": "who knows what could have happened if we"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:05", "text": "stayed longer I'm honestly curious"}, 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like"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "the tree knocking and the whooping and"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "like the the amount of experience that"}, {"end": "00:32:44", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "people have had out here um especially"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "like the 4x4 community and the camping"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:44", "text": "community and stuff it's just like"}, {"end": "00:32:51", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "common knowledge we have um a lot of"}, {"end": "00:32:54", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "like UFO stuff here like they say Alder"}, {"end": "00:32:57", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "gr is a like a UFO hotspot and so many"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:54", "text": "people that I know say that they've saw"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:57", "text": "like you know the the the black triangle"}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "where it has the yellow like so many"}, {"end": "00:33:06", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "people like almost everybody I know has"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "said that they've saw that at one point"}, {"end": "00:33:12", "start": "00:33:06", "text": "living in Alder grve in a way it's kind"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "of made me more of a skeptic if that"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:12", "text": "it's it's hard to explain so it makes me"}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "more of a skeptic because when people"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "say like oh I I thought I heard"}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "something or I put this thing down"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "somewhere and then it appeared somewhere"}, {"end": "00:33:27", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "else it's like because I have had real"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "legitimate things happen to me in my"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:27", "text": "entire family now I'm like okay you know"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "maybe it's just a slip of the mind or"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "maybe you thought you heard something"}, {"end": "00:33:37", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "and so now I'm more skeptical of when"}, {"end": "00:33:39", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "people say that they are having"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:37", "text": "legitimate experiences and then you know"}, {"end": "00:33:44", "start": "00:33:39", "text": "when when they explain it more or I hear"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "stories more I'm like okay yeah that's"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:44", "text": "believable or I could see that happening"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "or you know how some people just like to"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "to 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"00:34:39", "text": "like you're not crazy and don't go and"}, {"end": "00:34:45", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "medicate yourself a bunch because these"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "things do actually happen to people and"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:45", "text": "like reputable everyday normal people"}, {"end": "00:34:52", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "you don't you don't choose these things"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "like yes some people who are paranormal"}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:52", "text": "Hunters they run into it you know guns"}, {"end": "00:34:59", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "of Blazing but there are just normal"}, {"end": "00:35:01", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "everyday people who go out in the"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:59", "text": "wilderness or or move into a house and"}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:01", "text": "something crazy happens to them so I"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "think that when you feel like"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "something's happening or think like"}, {"end": "00:35:11", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "something's happening to trust your"}, {"end": "00:35:13", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "instincts 100% like yes you could have"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:11", "text": "maybe mistakenly put your glasses"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "somewhere and you thought you put them"}, {"end": "00:35:19", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "somewhere else and now they're somewhere"}, {"end": "00:35:22", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "else yes that does happen but if you"}, {"end": "00:35:25", "start": "00:35:19", "text": "feel like if some that happens and you"}, {"end": "00:35:27", "start": "00:35:22", "text": "feel uneasy and you hear voices like"}, {"end": "00:35:31", "start": "00:35:25", "text": "it's not always that you're going crazy"}, {"end": "00:35:31", "start": 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[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "911. What do you look at me? The guy is"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "on foot. This I don't know what it it's"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "big. Real big person. That's all I can"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "say. Okay. It is a It is a person."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "Yeah, I was a person. Somebody really"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "big. Police lines, military tapes, even"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "an FBI lab report. For decades, the name"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "Bigfoot has lived as a rumor. But"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "tonight, I'm going to show you several"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "recordings that authorities still can't"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "explain. From the infamous 911 call from"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "the '9s to a declassified FBI file and"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "even an eyewitness who had a bizarre"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "experience with what he believed was a"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "Bigfoot. I'm Josh Ninocchio and this is"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "what lurks beneath. You won't want to"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "miss this one."}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "In the early 1990s, a homeowner living"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "on the Kitsapat Peninsula in Washington"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "State came home one evening to a"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "horrifying discovery. His large German"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "Shepherd dog, which had been perfectly"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "healthy earlier that day, was now dead."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "The strange thing was that the dog's"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "body appeared to have been thrown over"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "the 8-ft fence that surrounded his"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "property. This homeowner lived in this"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "semi-ruural area surrounded by thick"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "second growth forest that created this"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "kind of green corridor leading all the"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "way to the Olympic Mountain Range. And"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "according to Sasquatch researchers, this"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "area was considered prime Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "habitat. Although the homeowner wasn't"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "thinking about any of that when he found"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "the dog, he was very confused and upset"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "about what could have possibly killed"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "his pet and then thrown it over such a"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "tall fence. So, the homeowner"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "immediately called 911 to report what"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "had happened. He told the dispatcher"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "that there was no vehicle headlights or"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "skid marks anywhere near the fence that"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "would suggest his dog had been hit by a"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "car and then thrown over, but he just"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "couldn't make sense of what could have"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "done this to his pet. The dispatcher"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "logged the call and presumably the"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "police came out to investigate, but they"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "didn't find anything conclusive. About a"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "week later, after 1000 p.m., the same"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "homeowner was inside his house when"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "suddenly his motion activated flood"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "lights turned on outside. He looked out"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "the window to see what had triggered"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "them, and what he saw made his blood run"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "cold. Standing in his yard was what he"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "described as a good-sized man or"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "something that looked like a man. The"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "homeowner estimated this figure was"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "about 6'9 and dressed all in black and"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "it was just standing there in the yard"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "staring directly at him through the"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "window. Immediately he grabbed his"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "phone, called 911 again while he"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "continued to watch this thing outside."}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "And during this live call, while he was"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "describing what he was seeing to the"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "dispatcher, he suddenly exclaimed, \"God,"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "he's big.\" And then the dispatcher"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "responded with what would later become a"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "famous reply. She just said, \"Uh-oh.\""}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "And something about the way she said it"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "just seemed to suggest she knew exactly"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "what he might be looking at. Nine. I"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "don't know. Do you see him now, sir?"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "Yes, I'm right at him. Uh-oh. Okay, hang"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "on. Now, during this call, the figure"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "apparently left the property, and when"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "police responded to the scene, they"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "couldn't find anything. Kitsap County"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "Dispatch officially logged this incident"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "as an unknown prowler with negative"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "results on area check, but the homeowner"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "was completely traumatized by these"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "experiences. I mean, first his dog gets"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "killed mysteriously and then this figure"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "shows up in his yard staring at him"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "through the window. The local law"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "enforcement investigation did not yield"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "any concrete evidence about what might"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "have happened. Eventually, the homeowner"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "decided he just couldn't stay there"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "anymore. He was too freaked out. And so,"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "he sold the property and moved away. And"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "when he did, he specifically requested"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "that his name not be published by"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "investigators. He wanted to remain"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "anonymous. And because of Washington"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "state's privacy laws, local police kept"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "certain aspects of the case sealed."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "Around 1996 or 97, two Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "researchers named Ron Morhead and Peter"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "Burn heard about this case and they"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "managed to arrange a meeting to"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "interview the original homeowner. After"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "talking with him, they determined that"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "his fear and confusion seemed completely"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "genuine, that this wasn't someone who"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "was just making up a story for clout or"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "attention, that this was someone who had"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "actually experienced something horrific"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "and terrifying. And so they decided then"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "that the case was significant enough"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "that they needed to preserve and share"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "it. In the late 1990s, Ron Morhead"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "included pieces of these 911 calls on"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "his commercial release called Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "Recordings Volume 2, and he labeled the"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "recording as the Northwest 911 call. The"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "released version was edited to remove"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "timestamps in the caller's personal"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "information to protect his identity."}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "However, the most skeptical aspect of"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "the entire case is that there's just a"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "lack of physical evidence, and it's a"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "reason to doubt the entire story. Now,"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "by 2008, these recordings had become"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "famous enough that they were featured on"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "the History Channel's Monster Quest"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "series, and there has since just been"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "this ongoing debate about what really"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "happened that night. From the pro-"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "Sasquatch perspective, the caller's"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "panic sounds completely genuine and its"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "description doesn't match any known"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "wildlife in the area. However, many"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "suggest that the homeowner simply"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "misidentified a person or a bear. And"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "then you have the law enforcement view."}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "Well, the case remains officially an"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "unknown prowler with negative results."}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "As of today, these recordings remain one"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "of the best known pieces of audio"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "evidence in Sasquatch research. And what"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "makes them so interesting and compelling"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "is that you have a combination of a"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "verifiable 911 call, the dog's"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "mysterious death, and the real-time"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "nature of that second encounter. And"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "miraculously, the homeowner has"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "maintained his anonymity all these"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "years. And with the partially sealed"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "nature of the original case files, the"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "mystery continues."}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "In early November of 2005, a sheriff"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "deputy from New Jersey named Lorie G"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "found herself standing completely alone"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "in the sprawling Misho State Forest in"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "Pennsylvania, clutching a walkie-talkie"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "in her hand. The only thing is when I"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "get out of the car, my light is going to"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "come"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "on out the window as far as I can and"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "start talking to it. I'll try it that"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "way. I don't want the light to come on"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "and frighten it."}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "Allori wasn't out there hiking or"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "camping for fun because she was actually"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "part of an official expedition organized"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "by the BFRO. She had positioned herself"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "at this specific spot as part of a"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "coordinated effort with other team"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "members who were spread out across"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "different areas of the forest. Back in"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "New Jersey, her job as a sheriff deputy"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "had her regularly transporting dangerous"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "felons to court and even walking unarmed"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "through jail, holding pens with"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "unrestrained inmates. Years of this kind"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "of work had turned her into what her"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "colleagues called a keen observer of"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "bodies in motion. I she could very"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "easily read people's movements and"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "intentions almost instinctively, a skill"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "that had saved her from potentially"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "dangerous situations more than once. So,"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "as Lorie was standing there in the"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "forest that November evening, she was"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "constantly scanning her surroundings,"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "using those same observational skills"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "that had served her so well in law"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "enforcement. The expedition leaders had"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "briefed everyone on what they called a"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "class B encounter, where you might see"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "something, but visibility could be"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "compromised. They'd all been given"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "walkie-talkies to stay in communication"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "with each other and to report anything"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "unusual immediately. Suddenly, as Lorie"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "was looking down the forest road in"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "front of her, she noticed movement."}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "Something large was walking toward her."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "Initially, she thought it was maybe"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "another expedition member, but almost"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "instantly she realized this figure was"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "way too big to be a person. And the way"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "it moved was different, too. And so,"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "without hesitation, she raised her"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "walkie-talkie to her mouth and pressed"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "the talk button. And she said, \"I see"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "something coming up the road.\" And"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "trying to keep her voice steady, despite"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "her heart racing, she just kept going on"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "and saying, \"It's big and it's walking"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "upright."}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "2. I'm looking out my driver's side"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "door. I'm watching somebody or something"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "through the tree line. Just be cool,"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "okay? Try to talk to it. But on the"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "other radio end was Chris Null, who's a"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "documentary filmmaker who had joined the"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "expedition to document whatever they"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "might find. And so the second he heard"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "Lor's transmission, he started recording"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "the walkie-talkie exchange. Everyone on"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "the expedition immediately stopped what"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "they were doing and tuned in. \"Can you"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "describe what you're seeing?\" another"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "team member had asked over the radio."}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "But Lori just kept her eyes locked on"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "the figure as it continued approaching."}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "And she explained, \"I could see the"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "shape of its head clearly and the"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "outline of its shoulders, and it's got"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "these really large arms that are"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "swinging as it walks.\" The entire time"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "Lori was describing what she was seeing,"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "she couldn't shake the feeling that"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "there was more than just one of these"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "things out there. In fact, she felt like"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "she was being watched from multiple"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "directions, like there were others"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "hiding just out of sight. Someone"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "quickly told her to try to talk to it,"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "but she just continued to stand her"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "ground and to continue to observe this"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "massive figure as it moved. Fortunately,"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "her law enforcement training was kicking"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "in and she was doing her best to stay"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "calm and to keep observing and to don't"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "make any sudden movements. And she noted"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "every detail she could about how it"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "moved in its proportions and the way it"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "seemed to deliberately approach her"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "position. Now, shortly after this, the"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "figure stopped and without any obvious"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "reason, it turned and moved away and"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "disappeared into the forest. So Lori"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "just waited and scanned for any sign of"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "its return, but it was gone. Along with"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "that strange sensation of being"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "surrounded that had been so powerful"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "just moments before. Lorie quietly"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "sighed to herself and thought, \"Crap, I"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "just lost the opportunity.\" And so she"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "went on her way and finally rejoined the"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "rest of the expedition team later that"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "evening. But she was still shaken up by"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "it. I mean, even her hands were still"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "shaking slightly, but her observations"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "were very precise and detailed. And in"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "fact, the other members were bombarding"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "her with questions. But, you know, with"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "everyone, she just stuck to exactly what"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "she had seen, which was an upright"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "figure, much larger than a person, a"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "very distinctive head shape, broad"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "shoulders, and long swinging arms. and"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "she just kept saying that I know what I"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "saw and I'm absolutely certain that"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "there were others there too, even though"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "I only saw one. As a matter of fact,"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "Chris Null made sure the audio recording"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "of the entire encounter was safely"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "saved. For the BFRO, Lor's experience"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "was really interesting because of her"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "background in law enforcement and just"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "her reputation as a reliable observer."}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "The organization had been teaching"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "people how to locate Sasquatch habitats"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "and how to provoke interactions"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "specifically for scientific study. They"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "followed the philosophy expressed by"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "famous pimeatlogist Jane Goodall, who"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "once said that one should not have to be"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "killed in order to establish their"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "existence. Instead, they focused on"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "documenting encounters just like Lor's."}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "And what made it even more compelling"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "was how Sasquatch approached rather than"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "retreated. I mean, most wildlife like"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "bears, cougars, deer will typically move"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "away from human presence. The fact that"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "this figure deliberately walked toward"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "her matched all the patterns that BFRO"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "had documented in other encounters. But"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "for Lorie, the experience fundamentally"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "changed her understanding of what might"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "be living in North America's forest."}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "Something very strange had approached"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "her, and what it could be, we still"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "don't know. In this next segment, a good"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "friend of mine, Matt Mch, had a chance"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "to tell me about his very own"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "experiences in Beaver Creek State Park"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "up in Ohio. Let me know what you think"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "though down below. There was a Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "conference. It's called the Friends of"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "Bigfoot. It's actually coming up. Uh"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "it's in I think it's where Beaver Creek"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "is. It's near East Liverpool, Ohio. So"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "him and his wife and their dog came up"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "from Columbus, Ohio. That's the area"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "they live in. They wanted to meet with"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "me and we're we went out to dinner and"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "then after dinner they said, \"Hey, we're"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "staying at this hotel which was close to"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "the it was literally across the parking"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "lot from where we ate.\" They said,"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "\"We're going to to Beaver Creek, the"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "people cuz Ernie was talking in this in"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "this conference.\" He said, \"Everybody"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "that's uh speaking in this conference"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "and the guy that's running it is"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "actually at this campsite at Beaver"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "Creek State Park. We're going back."}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "We're going to hang out and just, you"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "know, chill with everybody, eat uh, you"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "know, dessert or whatever and just hang"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "out.\" We go there and Ernie uh starts to"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "introduce me to everybody. Apparently, I"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "I was told and Ernie and every were"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "sitting around this campsite that we're"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "at is known for Bigfoot uh activity."}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "Very very strong, very wellnown. But not"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "only that, paranormal like ghost and and"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "things like that, like a headless ghost."}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "And people have proof of this stuff."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "Well, this campsite that we were staying"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "at, they were starting to talk about at"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "the top of this long hill uh with a with"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "a trail there was supposedly a portal up"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "there, like a stone portal that Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "and other beings like um a Indian Apache"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "warrior or some kind of of warrior rides"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "a horse bearback with the paint and"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "everything will actually come out of"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "this stone"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "uh portal and will come flying down the"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "running down the uh hill, you know, run"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "through the the uh campsite and out and"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "just disappear after they've gone down."}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "There's a stream by there and apparently"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "like a limestone and and you know that's"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "really well known to water and limestone"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "to you know cause more paranormal"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "activity as well. All of a sudden"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "without any warning or anything I get a"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "tap on my shoulder and you know I'm on"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "crutches at this point. I had just had"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "my left knee replaced maybe about a"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "month and a half before that. And then"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "on my my right side, you know, I I I"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "have a prosthetic. So, not the greatest"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "moment for me walking wise. And I turn"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "around and there's a guy, you know, out"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "here on me. And he says, \"Hi, uh, you"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "know, sorry to bother you. I just want"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "to introduce myself. My name is Johnny"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "Freeman. I'm a psychic.\" And he said, \"I"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "just want you to know I've never seen"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "anybody with an aura like yours before.\""}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "And then he said, \"I just want you to"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "know that I'm being told that you need"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "to go to the top of that hill where the"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "portal is.\" And I look at him and I look"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "up at the hill. I said, \"Um, okay.\" I"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "said, \"Did you, you know, see where I am"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "here?\" I said, \"I also have this issue."}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "I pulled up my pant leg. You could see"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "my"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "prosthetic.\" And I said, \"I'm, you know,"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "just had my knee replaced and I'm like,"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "I don't know how well I could get up"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "there.\" I said, you know, blah blah"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "blah. He's like, I understand. I'm just"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "telling you what I'm being told. You do"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "what you want with it. It's a pleasure"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "meeting you. I didn't want to bother you"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "anymore. Blah blah blah. I said, \"It's"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "fine. Thank you. I appreciate it.\" I"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "wasn't going to go. Thought about it for"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "a while. And then finally, it was like,"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "you know what? all this stuff that's"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "happened to me through the years and"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "it's it's so beyond coincidence and it's"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "meant to be. So finally I said you know"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "what I'm going up. So I tell I tell"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "Ernie and his wife I'm like hey you know"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "this is what he said blah blah blah blah"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "blah and they're like okay and he had"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "told me you need to go alone. So I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "like okay I'm going. So I go very slow"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "track up and this was a sketchy trail."}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "As I go further up, it's getting"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "thinner, like, you know, narrower and"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "narrower. And I look to my left as I'm"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "going up. And I'm get like there the the"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "there is a ledge that you can look down"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "once you got further at the top that"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "there is a drop. And at the bottom of"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "the drop was like a a stream, a river or"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "a stream. And let me tell you something,"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "brother. If you fell by the time I got"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "to the you either are dead or mangled"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "beyond belief. I had, you know, to stop"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "at times and put my crutches down and"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "just like take a knee and and my good"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "knee and just sit down. Like I was"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "soaking wet, sweating. This was the"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "summer. Finally, I get to the top and"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "the there was a last leg probably only"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "30 feet, 25 ft to get to this portal"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "thing and I could see it. I had to kind"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "of lean out like this. There was the"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "trail like went like I mean like this"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "and there was a rock face on my right"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "and if I didn't have my crutches I could"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "have like put my back against it and you"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "know did this but there was no way on"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "earth that I was doing that. So I said"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "okay this is as close as I'm getting."}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "This is it. Well, it just so happened"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "right before that area and like I said,"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "I could see it from where I was standing"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "if I lent over and I actually grabbed a"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "small little sapling which is about that"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "that thick and I held it and I looked at"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "the at the portal and it was a strange"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "rock formation. It was different and um"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "definitely knew that it was what I was"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "supposed to see. There was a tree that"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "had fell and it was laying there. I'm"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "like, I'm gonna sit there. So, I sit"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "down on it and I'm like soaking wet. I"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "wipe my face. I take my hat off, catch"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "my breath. I don't know what to do. I'm"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "like, so I start talking out loud. I'm"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "like, \"Hi, I guess I'm supposed to come"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "up here. I mean you no harm. I'm asking"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "for your permission to be here. I hope I"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "have it. I mean you no disrespect."}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "person down there told me that I was"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "supposed to come up here. Would you"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "please show yourself to me? And I just"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "sat there and you know, as I'm sitting"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "there, I just keep getting this like as"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "I'm singing longer, I'm getting a"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "feeling in my chest that something's"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "like starting weird to go on. It does"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "get quiet. Like people talk about things"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "get quiet. As I get this feeling like,"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "oh, okay, something's about to happen."}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "Nothing happens. So, it's starting to"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "get dark. It's like beyond us. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "like, man, that took me 30, 35 minutes"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "to get up this hill. I need to go. So, I"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "thought, you know what? The last thing"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "I'm going to do is I'm going to take my"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "phone out and I'm going to do what I see"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "on all these shows. They do EVPs. I"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "mean, it's worth it. I take this phone"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "and, you know, there's a a a recording,"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "audio recording there. I basically had"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "had thanked them and said, \"I mean you"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "no harm and and yada.\" And I pressed"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "stop and I play it back. And lo and"}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "behold, when I'm listening to this"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "recording, there is an obvious other"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "being grunt that is so beyond, like I"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "said, obvious. It's not me. There is no"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "one else up there. And not only is there"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "this grunt, which anyone would imagine a"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "Bigfoot grunting would sound like, there"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "are three. I said, \"How many are there"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "of"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "you? Is there anyone out here with"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "me? Thank you for allowing me to be in"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "your home, in your woods."}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "Do you want to say anything to tell me"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "you're"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "here? What's your"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "name? Is there anyone here? And how many"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "of you are there?"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "Mind you, I heard none of this with my"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "own ears. None of it. And there are"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "three wood knocks. Bap, bap, bap. I"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "stood up without my crutches like I"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "still had my leg and I didn't have s. I"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "was like whip. I was like, \"Oh my god,"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "thank you so much.\" I started thanking"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "whatever I when I made it down to the"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "bottom of the hill. I went straight for"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "this Johnny Freeman and he tells the"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "story pretty funny. I had dropped my"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "crutches and I grabbed him. I guess I,"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "you know, like I didn't realize I"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "grabbed him. His feet came up off the"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "ground. I didn't even notice. I said,"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "\"Dude,\" I'm like, \"You're not going to"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "believe what happened to me up there."}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "You were right.\" And I played it for him"}, {"end": "00:22:48", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "and he looked at me and he was calm. He"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "goes, \"I told you.\" He said, \"I told you"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:48", "text": "you needed to go up there.\" He says,"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "\"I'm not surprised at all.\" He goes,"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "\"That's incredible.\" He says, \"Wow, you"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "got something.\" And I I, you know,"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "played it later. I played it for my"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "buddy uh Ernie and his wife and they're"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "like, you know, their eyes are falling"}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "out of their heads and I let everybody"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "else later hear it and played it for"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "this David Wolf and you know, him and I"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "got to be, like I said, we're really"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "good friends now. And fast forward, I"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "met Ron Morehead and his wife and I"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "asked Mr. Morehead if he would mind"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "listening to an EVP sound clip and he"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "said, \"Sure.\" And we're standing"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "actually in in like the hallway there"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "and I played it for him and he said,"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "\"Play that again.\" I played it like"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "three, four times. And I said, \"What's"}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "your opinion, sir? What do you think?\""}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "He goes, \"Sounds like you got something"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "there, son.\" I said, \"Do you think it's"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "a Bigfoot?\" He goes, \"I do.\" And I"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "played it for a number of people there"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "and they all were like, like, you could"}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "see they're like, \"Damn, man. This guy"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "got something really good.\" Now, whether"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "or not Matthew actually saw something or"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "experienced what many believe was an"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "actual Bigfoot on that recording, we"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "don't know, folks. It remains"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "inconclusive. On a late October evening"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "in"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "1968, a woman named Amy was sitting in"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "the living room of her home in Wheeler,"}, {"end": "00:24:17", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "Utah, watching TV with her back to the"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "window. Amy lived in Ogden Canyon with"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:17", "text": "her husband and her 2-year-old son, who"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "was asleep in the back bedroom at the"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "time. Her husband wasn't home that"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "night, so it was just Amy and her"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "sleeping toddler. Amy got up and went to"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "the kitchen to get a drink of water. And"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "as she turned around to go back to her"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "seat, she noticed there was something"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "behind her. Through the window, she saw"}, {"end": "00:24:44", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "a pair of glowing red eyes staring back"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "at her, and the porch light was on so"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:44", "text": "she could make out what looked like a"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "very dark mass outlined in the window."}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "Amy froze there in the kitchen doorway."}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "And at first, she tried to convince"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "herself that she was just imagining"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "things, you know, that she was seeing"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "shadows or something. But the shape with"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "these eyes, it didn't go away. It was"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "there staring at her. Amy had no"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "knowledge of Bigfoot being in Utah. I"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "mean, this was 1968, and she actually"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "thought that maybe what she was seeing"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "was a werewolf or something. And living"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "out in the canyon like she did, she knew"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "that her home was outside the"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "jurisdiction of local law enforcement."}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "But she was terrified, so she called"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "them anyway, and they told her to call"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "the sheriff's department instead. When"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "the sheriff's department asked what her"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "emergency was, she just reported that"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "there was a prowler outside her house,"}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "that she didn't want to say what she"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "actually saw because she didn't think"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "they would believe her. While she was"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "waiting for the deputies to arrive, she"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "could hear the windows along the east"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "side of the house and the back door"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "rattling softly, as if someone was"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "testing to make sure that they were"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "secure. When the deputies finally showed"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "up, they asked Amy for a description and"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "she just said that she saw a dark"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "outline standing on the top step and one"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "of the deputies who was about 6'3 went"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "and stood where Amy said she saw the"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "figure. And even at his height, the"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "deputy was significantly shorter than"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "what Amy had observed. Only the deputy's"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "head was framed by the window while the"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "creature's entire upper body had been"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "visible to Amy. They didn't find any"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "footprints the next morning because"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "there was simply too many fallen leaves"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "on the ground. But Amy knew what she saw"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "and within a week she took her son and"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "moved out. About a month after Amy moved"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "out, her husband had his own experience"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "in that same house. Early one morning,"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "while he was getting ready for work, he"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "heard this commotion on the porch. And"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "when he looked through the"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "diamond-shaped window in the door, he"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "saw this dark, hairy face looking in at"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:45", "text": "him. and his first thought was bear. So"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "he ran to grab his pants and his gun."}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "But by the time he got back, the"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "creature was gone. Later, he realized it"}, {"end": "00:27:00", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "couldn't have been a bear because a"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "bear's snout would not fit close to the"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "window like that. Eventually, he"}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "admitted to Amy how foolish he had been"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "to dismiss her experience, and Amy had"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "actually been noticing strange things"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "even before her encounter. She and her"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "husband had moved to the canyon"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "alongside another couple who were"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "equestrians, and this couple kept three"}, {"end": "00:27:23", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "horses in a corral by the creek on their"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "adjacent property. Amy frequently"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:23", "text": "noticed the horses becoming agitated"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "deep into the night, and she described"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "them as making unusual sounds, like they"}, {"end": "00:27:35", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "were screaming rather than making their"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "normal naz. When Amy mentioned this to"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:35", "text": "her neighbor, he just kind of dismissed"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "her concerns altogether and suggested"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "that either the mayor is picking on one"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "of the boys or the horses sense that a"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "wild cat is up in the cliffs. Now, fast"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "forward to 98 and a guy named Steve"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "Schaffer was working for a petroleum"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "company that had diversified into"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "multiple different interests. Steve and"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "his co-orker Dusty hired two college"}, {"end": "00:28:05", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "students from Washington State, aged 19"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "and 21, to work at their mine for the"}, {"end": "00:28:09", "start": "00:28:05", "text": "experience. They agreed to cover the"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "students expenses and they set them up"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:09", "text": "at a camp just above the mine on Hoy"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "Peak outside Cameas, Utah. Now, these"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "students happen to be huge Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "enthusiasts. They were always hunting"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "for evidence in the wilderness. And at"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "this time, Utah wasn't exactly known for"}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "Bigfoot. not like the Pacific Northwest"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "was. So, one night a thunderstorm rolled"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "in, causing the students to finish work"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "early. They were bored sitting in their"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "tent, so they decided to play some"}, {"end": "00:28:40", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "Bigfoot call recordings that they had"}, {"end": "00:28:42", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "brought from Washington. And they used a"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "boom box to play these recordings, and"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:42", "text": "they kept increasing the volume. Between"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "the peels of thunder, they began hearing"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "roaring responses from somewhere in the"}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "wilderness nearby. The animal noises"}, {"end": "00:28:58", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "became increasingly strange. eventually"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "sounding almost like speech. This"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:58", "text": "encouraged the students, so they turned"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "the volume up to maximum. They started"}, {"end": "00:29:07", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "hooting and hollering and barking, just"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "trying to mimic these sounds. And"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:07", "text": "suddenly, their tent was lifted into the"}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "air. Two figures, each at least 7t tall,"}, {"end": "00:29:18", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "were towering over them, and they"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "appeared more like men than apes with"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:18", "text": "dark hair clinging to their bodies. The"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "lightning illuminated their forms and"}, {"end": "00:29:27", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "they looked angry and just exploded into"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "this frenzied movement around the"}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:27", "text": "campsite. Now, even though these"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "students were Bigfoot hunters, they"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "completely panicked and fled. They just"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "jumped right into their car, only in"}, {"end": "00:29:40", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "their underwear. But the car's"}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "transmission and rear end were"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:40", "text": "completely obliterated somehow, but they"}, {"end": "00:29:47", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "still managed to make it downtown. The"}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "students took shelter in a phone booth"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:47", "text": "outside a cafe. They called Dusty"}, {"end": "00:29:54", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "telling him they were chased off the"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "mountain by Bigfoot and Dusty then"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:54", "text": "called Steve in the middle of the night"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "saying that they needed to get to Camas"}, {"end": "00:30:03", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "right away. So Steve and his friend Gail"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "picked up Dusty and they drove to Camas."}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:03", "text": "And when they arrived they found the"}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "college students huddled in the phone"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "booth just soaking wet in their"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "underwear. Inside the cafe wrapped in"}, {"end": "00:30:15", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "blankets and drinking hot chocolate, the"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "students told their story. They refused"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:15", "text": "to turn to that area and they quit their"}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "jobs on the spot and said they were"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "planning to fly back to Washington"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "immediately. Steve and Gail decided to"}, {"end": "00:30:29", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "investigate the campsite themselves. And"}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "when they got there, they found that the"}, {"end": "00:30:32", "start": "00:30:29", "text": "area looked like a tornado had blown"}, {"end": "00:30:35", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "through it. I mean, there was a heavy"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:32", "text": "threeburner Coleman stove that was"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:35", "text": "twisted like a pretzel. Every cooler was"}, {"end": "00:30:43", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "torn to pieces. All of the aluminum"}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "cans, both full and empty, were"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:43", "text": "completely flattened. Walking sticks"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "were snapped in two and tent poles were"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "broken and folded into quarters. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "the tent itself was shredded beyond"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "recognition, and they discovered two"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "sets of tracks, one larger than the"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:57", "text": "other. But they didn't take any photos,"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "which was pretty common in the"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "pre-smartphone 1990s era. Moving ahead"}, {"end": "00:31:09", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "again to October 30th, 2012, a YouTube"}, {"end": "00:31:13", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "user named Beard Card, who people refer"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:09", "text": "to as Mr. card uploaded a 48-second"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:13", "text": "video. The video shows the filmmaker and"}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "several companions standing among autumn"}, {"end": "00:31:23", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "leaves. The camera pans up to reveal"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "something on a hillside. A large dark"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:23", "text": "figure that appears to be crouching or"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "rumaging on all fours. It suddenly"}, {"end": "00:31:33", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "stands upright, startling the witnesses,"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "and everyone immediately flees the area."}, {"end": "00:31:38", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "This video eventually accumulated"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "millions of views on YouTube and became"}, {"end": "00:31:43", "start": "00:31:38", "text": "one of the most watched bits of Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "evidence ever recorded. Mr. Card and his"}, {"end": "00:31:47", "start": "00:31:43", "text": "companions were camping in Provo Canyon,"}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "Utah, near Squap Peak and Little Rock"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:47", "text": "Canyon Overlook. During their hike, they"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "initially spotted a herd of deer. While"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "following them, they noticed what they"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "thought was a bear, but when it stood"}, {"end": "00:32:01", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "and looked directly at them, they"}, {"end": "00:32:03", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "realized it was a massive animal. The"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "group immediately ran straight to the"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "car, abandoning their tent and most of"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "their possessions. Numerous researchers"}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "have supported the video's authenticity."}, {"end": "00:32:14", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "They note that the witness's reactions"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "are credible because they neither"}, {"end": "00:32:18", "start": "00:32:14", "text": "overreacted nor jump to conclusions, and"}, {"end": "00:32:20", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "they initially thought that it was a"}, {"end": "00:32:24", "start": "00:32:18", "text": "bear until it stood upright. 4 years"}, {"end": "00:32:26", "start": "00:32:20", "text": "after Mr. Card's video in 2016, a woman"}, {"end": "00:32:28", "start": "00:32:24", "text": "named Jane Everett and her family were"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:26", "text": "traveling to the airport. Jane's"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:28", "text": "daughter captured video of a dark figure"}, {"end": "00:32:35", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "near the side of the road at sunset. The"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "shape vanished into a cornfield behind"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "it, but Jane later reported that"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "experience changed her from a skeptic to"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "a believer. Then in early 2019, a guy"}, {"end": "00:32:49", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "named Brett filmed some unusual footage"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "in Provo Canyon. The video shows Brett"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:49", "text": "arguing with his companions about what"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "they're seeing. Brett keeps pointing to"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "what appears to be a dark figure on a"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "hilltop overlooking a neighborhood. and"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "he repeatedly emphasizes that whatever"}, {"end": "00:33:06", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "is standing there seems to be quite"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "large. Shortly after, his friend Austin"}, {"end": "00:33:11", "start": "00:33:06", "text": "and several others decided to"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "investigate the area. They hiked to the"}, {"end": "00:33:15", "start": "00:33:11", "text": "exact spot where the figure had"}, {"end": "00:33:17", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "appeared. Austin described the terrain"}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:15", "text": "as challenging. It was a very steep,"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:17", "text": "snowy mountain. There was a lot of firm"}, {"end": "00:33:25", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "footholds or handholds. Austin concluded"}, {"end": "00:33:28", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "that whatever climbed up there must be"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:25", "text": "huge. The investigation team discovered"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:28", "text": "that there were bootprints where the"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "figure had been standing. Brett claimed"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "that Austin standing on the hilltop was"}, {"end": "00:33:40", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "not even close to as wide or as tall as"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "the figure he had seen there. Whatever"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:40", "text": "was on the hill that day, Brett was"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "convinced it wasn't human."}, {"end": "00:33:50", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "The strange thing about my Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "experience was that it didn't happen in"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:50", "text": "the middle of the woods, in the middle"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "of nowhere, in the middle of the Pacific"}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "Northwest. It didn't happen in the"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "middle of a swamp in the well sort of in"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "the middle of a swamp in 500 miles from"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "nowhere. It happened right on the edge"}, {"end": "00:34:07", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "of"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "civilization. If you get out your map"}, {"end": "00:34:13", "start": "00:34:07", "text": "and you follow the Mississippi down to"}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "where you find Interstate 280 passes"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:13", "text": "over the Mississippi River, there's a"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "field on the upriver side of that"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "bridge. And there used to be a cabin"}, {"end": "00:34:26", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "that sat there once a long time ago."}, {"end": "00:34:29", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "And I lived in that cabin in the winter"}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:26", "text": "of 1984. I was pregnant with my second"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:29", "text": "son. My We were so poor we couldn't pay"}, {"end": "00:34:37", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "attention. They don't get any more poor"}, {"end": "00:34:40", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "than we were or backwoods or redneck or"}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:37", "text": "stupid than we were. It's just what it"}, {"end": "00:34:45", "start": "00:34:40", "text": "was."}, {"end": "00:34:47", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "And uh the only money that we were"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:45", "text": "earning was my then"}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:47", "text": "husband would go out at night during"}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "raccoon season and he would hunt for"}, {"end": "00:34:59", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "heights and because I was pregnant and"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "we didn't have a a telephone and we and"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:34:59", "text": "it was kind of a creepy road that this"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "cabin was down at the end of my best"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "friend would come and she would keep me"}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "company at night and we would sit in"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "front of the fireplace place, our only"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "source of heat. And my older son would"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "uh we'd lay a blanket out for him, and"}, {"end": "00:35:23", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "he was two at the time. And we would sit"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "in front of the fireplace and we'd play"}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "Jen Rummy all night. Now, being super"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "poor people, you can imagine we didn't"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "have really nice furniture. In fact,"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "what we did have was this old sofa bed"}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "that sat up on cement blocks that um I"}, {"end": "00:35:42", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "mean the only reason it sat up on cement"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "blocks is that was the only way you"}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:42", "text": "could pull the bed out otherwise it"}, {"end": "00:35:46", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "would drag on the floor and that's what"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "we slept on at night because it was the"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:46", "text": "only warm spot in the house. And um we"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "were sitting there playing Jim Rubby and"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "something hit the house so hard that it"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:56", "text": "knocked that big heavy old sofa bed. And"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "once upon a time, folks, those were"}, {"end": "00:36:07", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "really really heavy off of those those"}, {"end": "00:36:10", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "cement blocks and onto its face on the"}, {"end": "00:36:12", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "floor. Well, of course, I jump up and"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:10", "text": "I'm screaming and running around and my"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:12", "text": "best friend jumps up and she's screaming"}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "and running around. and we went outside"}, {"end": "00:36:20", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "and the por there was a porch that ran"}, {"end": "00:36:22", "start": "00:36:17", "text": "the whole front of the cabin. Now, this"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:20", "text": "is right on the Mississippi River. So,"}, {"end": "00:36:27", "start": "00:36:22", "text": "this cabin is built about 8 ft off the"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "ground. Okay, we're or 6 ft off the"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:27", "text": "ground. It's not right level with the"}, {"end": "00:36:34", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "ground. That's a long set of stairs to"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "go down to the ground. And I look down"}, {"end": "00:36:38", "start": "00:36:34", "text": "this end and I run to the other end. And"}, {"end": "00:36:41", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "I looked down that end. Didn't see"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:38", "text": "anything. But my signal to my husband in"}, {"end": "00:36:44", "start": "00:36:41", "text": "case something was wrong was to get the"}, {"end": "00:36:47", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "gun and fire three rounds into the air,"}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:44", "text": "which I did. And he came back to the"}, {"end": "00:36:53", "start": "00:36:47", "text": "cabin and he looked around. Something"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "had definitely torn the There was"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:53", "text": "lattice work all around the bottom um a"}, {"end": "00:37:00", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "skirt around the bottom of the cabin."}, {"end": "00:37:04", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "And something had definitely torn that"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:00", "text": "skirt off at some point in in one spot."}, {"end": "00:37:09", "start": "00:37:04", "text": "But we're talking probably early"}, {"end": "00:37:13", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "December, maybe late November, but more"}, {"end": "00:37:15", "start": "00:37:09", "text": "like December. And there's no way there"}, {"end": "00:37:17", "start": "00:37:13", "text": "was going to be any any footprints cuz"}, {"end": "00:37:21", "start": "00:37:15", "text": "everything was frozen. This is"}, {"end": "00:37:26", "start": "00:37:17", "text": "Illinois. And so in the northern part of"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:21", "text": "Illinois, so he he said he basically"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:26", "text": "laughed it off. Yeah, you're you're"}, {"end": "00:37:34", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "imagining things."}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "So I after that I was very leerary about"}, {"end": "00:37:39", "start": "00:37:34", "text": "coming home after dark. If I needed if I"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "went out during the day, I made sure I"}, {"end": "00:37:49", "start": "00:37:39", "text": "was home and in the cabin by dark. And"}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "uh January came, there was an ice block"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:49", "text": "on the river and we got flooded out and"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "we moved to another place."}, {"end": "00:38:04", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "So July comes along and my husband"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "wanted to go fishing. He wanted to go"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:04", "text": "fishing down on this is a place called"}, {"end": "00:38:10", "start": "00:38:06", "text": "Big Island. And I No, I don't want to go"}, {"end": "00:38:12", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "fishing down there. Yeah, let's go"}, {"end": "00:38:15", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "fishing down there. And I really,"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:12", "text": "really, really did not want to go back"}, {"end": "00:38:22", "start": "00:38:15", "text": "there, but I did. And we get down there"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "and we pull into this little clearing on"}, {"end": "00:38:27", "start": "00:38:22", "text": "the opposite side of the road from the"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "river. Uh there was like a backwater"}, {"end": "00:38:31", "start": "00:38:27", "text": "pond, a long narrow pond, and we p"}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "pulled into the end of it. It's sort of"}, {"end": "00:38:37", "start": "00:38:31", "text": "a teardrop shaped clearing. He turns the"}, {"end": "00:38:39", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "car around, faces it out. Now, this"}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:37", "text": "clearing is just about wide enough for"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:39", "text": "maybe one and a half cars to pull"}, {"end": "00:38:45", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "through. I don't think two could pull"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "through that that entry little entry"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:45", "text": "drive into that clearing uh"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "without running into each other. Um, but"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "once you got through that little"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "driveway, it opened up. So he turns the"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "car around, points it outward, sets up,"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "you know, we build a little fire for me"}, {"end": "00:39:07", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "to cook a hot dog because at this point"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "my 2-year-old was three and I had about"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:07", "text": "a 5-month old baby. And I put the baby"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:09", "text": "in the uh it was a like a fishnet play"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "pen. I draped mosquito netting over it."}, {"end": "00:39:23", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "It was evening. My husband takes all of"}, {"end": "00:39:26", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "his fishing stuff and heads down way way"}, {"end": "00:39:28", "start": "00:39:23", "text": "down. I don't even know where he went to"}, {"end": "00:39:33", "start": "00:39:26", "text": "fish, but it was way far from me. I knew"}, {"end": "00:39:35", "start": "00:39:28", "text": "that. And he left me and my"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:33", "text": "three-year-old to fish in this backwater"}, {"end": "00:39:40", "start": "00:39:35", "text": "pond. And frankly, there wasn't anything"}, {"end": "00:39:42", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "in that pond to catch but dogfish. And I"}, {"end": "00:39:44", "start": "00:39:40", "text": "don't eat dogfish. I don't know anybody"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:42", "text": "that does eat"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:44", "text": "dogfish. And so I thought, \"Oh, heck"}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "no.\" But just to entertain my son, I let"}, {"end": "00:39:52", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "him put his line in the water with a"}, {"end": "00:39:55", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "little bobber and I just sat there and"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:52", "text": "looked at the stars. Pretty I I made him"}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:55", "text": "a hot dog and some"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "uh marshmallows and that kind of thing."}, {"end": "00:40:05", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "Pretty soon he got tired. I slipped him"}, {"end": "00:40:07", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "into the play pin. Play pens behind me."}, {"end": "00:40:10", "start": "00:40:05", "text": "Cars over"}, {"end": "00:40:12", "start": "00:40:07", "text": "here. The pond is in front of me. And"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:10", "text": "we're basically surrounded entirely by"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:12", "text": "trees. And I began to hear something in"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "the bushes directly behind me on the"}, {"end": "00:40:21", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "back side of the clearing. And I"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "couldn't quite place. It sounded like"}, {"end": "00:40:25", "start": "00:40:21", "text": "something was just kind of scurrying"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "around, kicking things around in there."}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:25", "text": "And my first thought was, there's a"}, {"end": "00:40:33", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "raccoon back there and it's probably"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "smelled the hot dogs and it's probably"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:33", "text": "waiting for us to leave so it can raid"}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "the camp. Boy, that's a big"}, {"end": "00:40:45", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "raccoon. That's not a raccoon."}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "And then I heard it made"}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:45", "text": "noises. Now, it wasn't like what they"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "call the samurai sounds. It wasn't that"}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "kind of"}, {"end": "00:40:57", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "chatter, but it was not really a wasn't"}, {"end": "00:41:00", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "a big loud woo or anything like that. It"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:57", "text": "was just a a odd"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:00", "text": "little I I heard it once one time in all"}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "these years somebody captured something"}, {"end": "00:41:11", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "that reminded me of it and it was just"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "close enough to being I I the only"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:11", "text": "creature in that part of the world that"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "I can't readily identify is a fox and"}, {"end": "00:41:22", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "that's cuz they make so many different"}, {"end": "00:41:25", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "sounds. But I still thought if it was a"}, {"end": "00:41:28", "start": "00:41:22", "text": "fox it was a pretty big fox and it was"}, {"end": "00:41:31", "start": "00:41:25", "text": "close. It could have been, but it would"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:28", "text": "have been an awfully big fox. And I"}, {"end": "00:41:34", "start": "00:41:31", "text": "started getting nervous and I was"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "sitting there facing and I just looking"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:34", "text": "at the pond and looking up at the stars"}, {"end": "00:41:40", "start": "00:41:36", "text": "and I was thinking, \"Whatever this is,"}, {"end": "00:41:42", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "whatever this is, it's not what I think"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:40", "text": "it is. It's not"}, {"end": "00:41:48", "start": "00:41:42", "text": "four-legged.\" And it made its way around"}, {"end": "00:41:50", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "the edge of the clearing. And then in"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:48", "text": "that driveway that's about car and a"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:50", "text": "half width wide, I"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:56", "text": "saw I was sitting down on a bucket that"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:58", "text": "had a little pad on it. So of course"}, {"end": "00:42:06", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "everything looks taller when you're"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "sitting that low. But I"}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:06", "text": "saw something on two legs, just a"}, {"end": "00:42:17", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "silhouette step across that drive."}, {"end": "00:42:22", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "one"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:17", "text": "step and I'm telling you it looked 10 ft"}, {"end": "00:42:28", "start": "00:42:22", "text": "tall. It looked 10 ft tall. Of course,"}, {"end": "00:42:32", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "it was probably only 7 or 8t tall, but"}, {"end": "00:42:32", "start": "00:42:28", "text": "only 7 or 8t tall is a big"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "statement. So anyway, there's trees"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "right there and then of course I could"}, {"end": "00:42:42", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "hear it go through the trees and then I"}, {"end": "00:42:45", "start": "00:42:40", "text": "could hear it go down into the the"}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "backwater pond. And I remember sitting"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:45", "text": "there with my head down thinking, you"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "know, all I have to do is take the"}, {"end": "00:42:52", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "flashlight, shine it out there cuz I can"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "hear it out there in the water. I can"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:52", "text": "see what it is. I can look up. I can see"}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "what it is. And I was so"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "terrified. I didn't want to look up. And"}, {"end": "00:43:03", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "I did not want to see what it was. I"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "didn't"}, {"end": "00:43:08", "start": "00:43:03", "text": "care. Well, it splashed around out there"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "in the water. And I don't know if it was"}, {"end": "00:43:12", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "taking a bath or if it was catching"}, {"end": "00:43:13", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "those dog fish or if it was just"}, {"end": "00:43:16", "start": "00:43:12", "text": "playing. It just splashed around out"}, {"end": "00:43:19", "start": "00:43:13", "text": "there, made its way to the other end and"}, {"end": "00:43:20", "start": "00:43:16", "text": "out. This was not a violent encounter by"}, {"end": "00:43:24", "start": "00:43:19", "text": "any stretch of the"}, {"end": "00:43:27", "start": "00:43:20", "text": "imagination, but I was terrified. As"}, {"end": "00:43:32", "start": "00:43:24", "text": "soon as it"}, {"end": "00:43:34", "start": "00:43:27", "text": "got out the other end, I jumped up. I I"}, {"end": "00:43:37", "start": "00:43:32", "text": "kind of scattered the little fire around"}, {"end": "00:43:40", "start": "00:43:34", "text": "and loaded everything up and put the"}, {"end": "00:43:43", "start": "00:43:37", "text": "lantern and the uh the play pin and the"}, {"end": "00:43:46", "start": "00:43:40", "text": "kids in the car and and my little bucket"}, {"end": "00:43:48", "start": "00:43:43", "text": "of my um cooler in the car. Jumped into"}, {"end": "00:43:50", "start": "00:43:46", "text": "the car and honked the horn for my"}, {"end": "00:43:53", "start": "00:43:48", "text": "husband three times for him to come"}, {"end": "00:43:55", "start": "00:43:50", "text": "back. He didn't come. And that was when"}, {"end": "00:43:58", "start": "00:43:53", "text": "I realized he had walked off with the"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:55", "text": "keys in his pocket."}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:43:58", "text": "I couldn't go. Oh no."}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "All I could do was sit there in that"}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "car. It was like daylight before he got"}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "there."}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "And of course, by then, I was so"}, {"end": "00:44:19", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "hysterical. All I could do was sobb and"}, {"end": "00:44:22", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "cry because I still have the memory of"}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:19", "text": "something being big enough to knock that"}, {"end": "00:44:27", "start": "00:44:22", "text": "sofa. And for years, I thought it had"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "hit the side of the house. But in recent"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:27", "text": "years, I've come to realize that back in"}, {"end": "00:44:34", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "November, December when that first one"}, {"end": "00:44:37", "start": "00:44:31", "text": "happened, it probably hit the bottom. It"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:34", "text": "probably stood up and hit the bottom of"}, {"end": "00:44:42", "start": "00:44:37", "text": "the under the floor to make that couch"}, {"end": "00:44:44", "start": "00:44:40", "text": "do what it"}, {"end": "00:44:47", "start": "00:44:42", "text": "did. And all I could think is, \"This"}, {"end": "00:44:50", "start": "00:44:44", "text": "thing's huge. That thing's huge. And I"}, {"end": "00:44:52", "start": "00:44:47", "text": "know what it can do.\" And I'm out here"}, {"end": "00:44:54", "start": "00:44:50", "text": "alone with my two kids. And my husband"}, {"end": "00:44:58", "start": "00:44:52", "text": "didn't show up until almost"}, {"end": "00:45:00", "start": "00:44:54", "text": "daylight. And I that was"}, {"end": "00:45:03", "start": "00:44:58", "text": "emotionally very difficult for"}, {"end": "00:45:06", "start": "00:45:00", "text": "me. What made it even worse is when I"}, {"end": "00:45:08", "start": "00:45:03", "text": "tried to tell people this is what I saw"}, {"end": "00:45:10", "start": "00:45:06", "text": "down on Big Island. My husband would"}, {"end": "00:45:12", "start": "00:45:08", "text": "say, \"Don't tell people that. They'll"}, {"end": "00:45:14", "start": "00:45:10", "text": "think you're stupid. Stop telling people"}, {"end": "00:45:15", "start": "00:45:12", "text": "that. They think you're a liar. Don't"}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:14", "text": "tell people that. They think you're"}, {"end": "00:45:22", "start": "00:45:15", "text": "crazy. Stop that.\" And then his friends"}, {"end": "00:45:28", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "started in and they made fun of me."}, {"end": "00:45:30", "start": "00:45:22", "text": "And it was it was awful. It was and so I"}, {"end": "00:45:31", "start": "00:45:28", "text": "quit talking about it. What what was"}, {"end": "00:45:33", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "your husband's reaction when he first"}, {"end": "00:45:35", "start": "00:45:31", "text": "got back and he clearly saw that you"}, {"end": "00:45:38", "start": "00:45:33", "text": "were hysterical."}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:35", "text": "He, you know, he just thought, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:45:40", "start": "00:45:38", "text": "she's going to start in on this whole"}, {"end": "00:45:42", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "thing that happened in the cabin because"}, {"end": "00:45:44", "start": "00:45:40", "text": "we were right across the road from the"}, {"end": "00:45:47", "start": "00:45:42", "text": "cabin in the second thing.\" And and he"}, {"end": "00:45:50", "start": "00:45:44", "text": "just don't start in on this again cuz he"}, {"end": "00:45:53", "start": "00:45:47", "text": "was already mad at me for because look,"}, {"end": "00:45:56", "start": "00:45:50", "text": "I it wasn't like Bigfoot came into my"}, {"end": "00:45:58", "start": "00:45:53", "text": "life when something hit the side of the"}, {"end": "00:46:01", "start": "00:45:56", "text": "cabin. It's been a topic that I've"}, {"end": "00:46:04", "start": "00:45:58", "text": "always been interested in. I watched The"}, {"end": "00:46:07", "start": "00:46:01", "text": "Legend of Boggy Creek. I watched the"}, {"end": "00:46:11", "start": "00:46:04", "text": "Leonard Nemoy specials. I watched the"}, {"end": "00:46:14", "start": "00:46:07", "text": "Peter Grave specials. I've seen every"}, {"end": "00:46:17", "start": "00:46:11", "text": "documentary on Bigfoot ever made and I"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:14", "text": "had already seen all of the ones that"}, {"end": "00:46:22", "start": "00:46:17", "text": "had been made at that point. So, he"}, {"end": "00:46:23", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "always would say, \"Oh, you're just"}, {"end": "00:46:25", "start": "00:46:22", "text": "letting your imagination get away from"}, {"end": "00:46:27", "start": "00:46:23", "text": "you because this is something you you"}, {"end": "00:46:30", "start": "00:46:25", "text": "want to believe. You want to believe.\""}, {"end": "00:46:33", "start": "00:46:27", "text": "The problem is I never believed that"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:30", "text": "there was one in the Midwest. I actually"}, {"end": "00:46:37", "start": "00:46:33", "text": "can remember a time when I thought,"}, {"end": "00:46:39", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "well, unless I go out west or if I go"}, {"end": "00:46:42", "start": "00:46:37", "text": "down south to the swamps, I'm never"}, {"end": "00:46:45", "start": "00:46:39", "text": "going to see one anyway. The last place"}, {"end": "00:46:47", "start": "00:46:42", "text": "I would have ever expected to see one"}, {"end": "00:46:50", "start": "00:46:45", "text": "was where I saw"}, {"end": "00:46:55", "start": "00:46:47", "text": "one. You have to look at your map and"}, {"end": "00:46:58", "start": "00:46:50", "text": "realize just how in civilization I was."}, {"end": "00:47:00", "start": "00:46:55", "text": "it didn't make sense that what I was"}, {"end": "00:47:01", "start": "00:46:58", "text": "having this encounter with would be"}, {"end": "00:47:05", "start": "00:47:00", "text": "happening"}, {"end": "00:47:07", "start": "00:47:01", "text": "there. And so I'm a fairly logical"}, {"end": "00:47:10", "start": "00:47:05", "text": "person. I'm also a very emotional"}, {"end": "00:47:13", "start": "00:47:07", "text": "person. But frankly, I let my"}, {"end": "00:47:15", "start": "00:47:10", "text": "logic take over when I am emotional"}, {"end": "00:47:18", "start": "00:47:13", "text": "because it calms me"}, {"end": "00:47:20", "start": "00:47:15", "text": "down. And logically, it didn't make"}, {"end": "00:47:22", "start": "00:47:18", "text": "sense to be having an encounter with"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:20", "text": "something that everybody says lives in"}, {"end": "00:47:28", "start": "00:47:22", "text": "Washington or Oregon or Canada or maybe"}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:25", "text": "there's a few down in Florida and and"}, {"end": "00:47:35", "start": "00:47:28", "text": "Louisiana and Arkansas clearly and Texas"}, {"end": "00:47:37", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "because of the the faulk monster, but"}, {"end": "00:47:40", "start": "00:47:35", "text": "definitely not in the Midwest. Are you"}, {"end": "00:47:42", "start": "00:47:37", "text": "crazy? So, why would I have ever thought"}, {"end": "00:47:44", "start": "00:47:40", "text": "that to begin with? But that was his"}, {"end": "00:47:45", "start": "00:47:42", "text": "attitude. And then of course when I"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:44", "text": "started trying to tell people about it,"}, {"end": "00:47:49", "start": "00:47:45", "text": "his attitude got even stronger. And I'm"}, {"end": "00:47:51", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "going to tell you something about my"}, {"end": "00:47:51", "start": "00:47:49", "text": "first"}, {"end": "00:47:59", "start": "00:47:52", "text": "husband. Uh if you've ever owned a dog"}, {"end": "00:48:02", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "that's super likable, you know, always"}, {"end": "00:48:04", "start": "00:47:59", "text": "greets you and you know the whole nine"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:02", "text": "yards. Great dog, but you can't let him"}, {"end": "00:48:09", "start": "00:48:04", "text": "in the house cuz he's too dumb to be"}, {"end": "00:48:15", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "housed. That's my"}, {"end": "00:48:15", "start": "00:48:09", "text": "ex-husband. Nice guy. too dumb to be"}, {"end": "00:48:22", "start": "00:48:15", "text": "housed. So, and and also, by the way, a"}, {"end": "00:48:25", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "a horrible alcoholic and drug addict,"}, {"end": "00:48:27", "start": "00:48:22", "text": "sadly. Um, and that's what ended our"}, {"end": "00:48:29", "start": "00:48:25", "text": "marriage ultimately was the drugs and"}, {"end": "00:48:34", "start": "00:48:27", "text": "the alcohol."}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:29", "text": "But to have him call me stupid was more"}, {"end": "00:48:40", "start": "00:48:34", "text": "painful than anything else because I,"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "you know, I'm no great shakes in most"}, {"end": "00:48:45", "start": "00:48:40", "text": "cases, but I ain't stupid. And to to"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "have him treat me like that was the"}, {"end": "00:48:50", "start": "00:48:45", "text": "hardest part for me. And to have his"}, {"end": "00:48:53", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "friends who were all clones of him do"}, {"end": "00:48:56", "start": "00:48:50", "text": "the same thing was just unbearable. I I"}, {"end": "00:49:00", "start": "00:48:53", "text": "I don't like being called stupid. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:49:02", "start": "00:48:56", "text": "And uh that was what really dug deep for"}, {"end": "00:49:07", "start": "00:49:00", "text": "me was their attitude that I was just"}, {"end": "00:49:10", "start": "00:49:02", "text": "being stupid or a liar or crazy. You"}, {"end": "00:49:13", "start": "00:49:07", "text": "know, that's what I hated most. I would"}, {"end": "00:49:15", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "tell the story to as my boys got older"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:13", "text": "and they'd have friends around the"}, {"end": "00:49:19", "start": "00:49:15", "text": "campfire. We lived out on the farm by"}, {"end": "00:49:23", "start": "00:49:17", "text": "then. um you know they come and I'd tell"}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:19", "text": "the story and I'd exaggerate and I' and"}, {"end": "00:49:28", "start": "00:49:23", "text": "only in the last few years have I really"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "been open about what happened and told"}, {"end": "00:49:35", "start": "00:49:28", "text": "exactly what happened and I've begun to"}, {"end": "00:49:39", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "relive and reveal those emotions"}, {"end": "00:49:42", "start": "00:49:35", "text": "that that I had and it was not a violent"}, {"end": "00:49:44", "start": "00:49:39", "text": "encounter and I need to stress that this"}, {"end": "00:49:46", "start": "00:49:42", "text": "thing didn't attack me but it still"}, {"end": "00:49:48", "start": "00:49:44", "text": "managed to scare the living daylights"}, {"end": "00:49:51", "start": "00:49:46", "text": "out of"}, {"end": "00:49:52", "start": "00:49:48", "text": "of all the over all the years that since"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:51", "text": "that's happened, I've only had one"}, {"end": "00:50:01", "start": "00:49:52", "text": "person come to me and say, you know, I"}, {"end": "00:50:02", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "saw something down there, but it was a"}, {"end": "00:50:04", "start": "00:50:01", "text": "juvenile version. It was a smaller"}, {"end": "00:50:08", "start": "00:50:02", "text": "version of what you saw. It was only"}, {"end": "00:50:11", "start": "00:50:04", "text": "about four or 5t tall, and it looked"}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:08", "text": "like a kid, but it was covered in hair,"}, {"end": "00:50:16", "start": "00:50:11", "text": "and it was less than a mile from where"}, {"end": "00:50:20", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "you were at."}, {"end": "00:50:23", "start": "00:50:16", "text": "Time passed and around 2014, I was"}, {"end": "00:50:26", "start": "00:50:20", "text": "listening to a podcast and a man had a"}, {"end": "00:50:29", "start": "00:50:23", "text": "the man that was telling his story on"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:26", "text": "there was talking about being uh he was"}, {"end": "00:50:36", "start": "00:50:29", "text": "a paper boy in Eldridge, Iowa, which is"}, {"end": "00:50:38", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "just across the river and out ofways"}, {"end": "00:50:41", "start": "00:50:36", "text": "around the same time frame. And it was"}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:38", "text": "wintertime and he was followed and he"}, {"end": "00:50:48", "start": "00:50:41", "text": "saw footprints by a Bigfoot. So, I'm not"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "alone in that area. But if you look at"}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:48", "text": "where it's at, you're like, there's no"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "way. There's absolutely no way she could"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "have had an encounter there. That's"}, {"end": "00:50:58", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "right on the edge of"}, {"end": "00:51:01", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "civilization. And I'll tell you"}, {"end": "00:51:03", "start": "00:50:58", "text": "something else that occurred to me. Only"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:51:01", "text": "recently, only"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:03", "text": "from probably the last 10 years or maybe"}, {"end": "00:51:10", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "so, when I've really really gotten into"}, {"end": "00:51:12", "start": "00:51:08", "text": "studying them and I've been able to hear"}, {"end": "00:51:15", "start": "00:51:10", "text": "other people's"}, {"end": "00:51:17", "start": "00:51:12", "text": "encounters. Those things are very"}, {"end": "00:51:19", "start": "00:51:15", "text": "stealthy. They can creep up on you. They"}, {"end": "00:51:21", "start": "00:51:17", "text": "can and you don't even know it. You can"}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:19", "text": "be standing next to one and not even"}, {"end": "00:51:29", "start": "00:51:21", "text": "know it. And my children were behind"}, {"end": "00:51:31", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "me. It could have come up to that play"}, {"end": "00:51:35", "start": "00:51:29", "text": "pin and taken them out of it and I would"}, {"end": "00:51:37", "start": "00:51:31", "text": "never have known. And that is what"}, {"end": "00:51:40", "start": "00:51:35", "text": "terrifies me the most."}, {"end": "00:51:43", "start": "00:51:37", "text": "On a warm Tuesday evening in June of"}, {"end": "00:51:46", "start": "00:51:40", "text": "1964, two brothers named Gordon and"}, {"end": "00:51:49", "start": "00:51:43", "text": "Randall Brown were moving very carefully"}, {"end": "00:51:51", "start": "00:51:46", "text": "behind a shed on Evelyn Utrup's farm in"}, {"end": "00:51:53", "start": "00:51:49", "text": "rural Michigan. They had a flashlight"}, {"end": "00:51:56", "start": "00:51:51", "text": "with them because the sun was starting"}, {"end": "00:51:59", "start": "00:51:53", "text": "to set fast, and they were investigating"}, {"end": "00:52:01", "start": "00:51:56", "text": "the strange shadowy figure they'd seen"}, {"end": "00:52:04", "start": "00:51:59", "text": "ducking between the shed and the barn."}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:01", "text": "As they're shining this light around,"}, {"end": "00:52:07", "start": "00:52:04", "text": "they notice what looks like a tree"}, {"end": "00:52:10", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "standing there. But then they both"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:07", "text": "realize, wait a minute, there shouldn't"}, {"end": "00:52:15", "start": "00:52:10", "text": "be a tree right here in the spot. And"}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "that's when this tree suddenly moves and"}, {"end": "00:52:19", "start": "00:52:15", "text": "they realize it's not a tree at all, but"}, {"end": "00:52:21", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "it's something else entirely. Something"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:19", "text": "that shouldn't exist. This wasn't the"}, {"end": "00:52:24", "start": "00:52:21", "text": "first time, though somebody in the"}, {"end": "00:52:27", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "Sister Lakes area had seen something"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:24", "text": "weird in the woods or near the lakes."}, {"end": "00:52:32", "start": "00:52:27", "text": "The Sister Lakes area is a place in"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "Michigan made up of 10 separate lakes in"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:32", "text": "about a six-mile area. Most people there"}, {"end": "00:52:40", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "lived quiet lives centered around"}, {"end": "00:52:42", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "farming, cherry orchards, and maybe a"}, {"end": "00:52:44", "start": "00:52:40", "text": "bit of tourism during the summer months."}, {"end": "00:52:46", "start": "00:52:42", "text": "It was kind of a place where everyone"}, {"end": "00:52:49", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "knew everyone else, and nothing much"}, {"end": "00:52:51", "start": "00:52:46", "text": "exciting ever really happened until"}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:49", "text": "1964. For about a year or two before"}, {"end": "00:52:56", "start": "00:52:51", "text": "this, locals had been spotting what they"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "described as this immense creature,"}, {"end": "00:53:00", "start": "00:52:56", "text": "standing around 7 to 10 feet tall,"}, {"end": "00:53:03", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "weighing hundreds of pounds with"}, {"end": "00:53:06", "start": "00:53:00", "text": "distinct black leathery face and glowing"}, {"end": "00:53:08", "start": "00:53:03", "text": "eyes. One local, a guy named Robert"}, {"end": "00:53:11", "start": "00:53:06", "text": "Walker, had seen this thing so many"}, {"end": "00:53:13", "start": "00:53:08", "text": "times that by the summer of 63, he"}, {"end": "00:53:15", "start": "00:53:11", "text": "actually claimed he could predict its"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:13", "text": "movements. That's how familiar he was"}, {"end": "00:53:20", "start": "00:53:15", "text": "with it. But most people who saw this"}, {"end": "00:53:22", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "thing, oh, they kept it to themselves"}, {"end": "00:53:24", "start": "00:53:20", "text": "because I mean, who's going to believe"}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:22", "text": "you if you saw some giant monster"}, {"end": "00:53:27", "start": "00:53:24", "text": "roaming around in rural Michigan? I"}, {"end": "00:53:29", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "mean, you'd be laughed right out of"}, {"end": "00:53:31", "start": "00:53:27", "text": "town. People in the area were hearing"}, {"end": "00:53:33", "start": "00:53:29", "text": "strange sounds through the cherry"}, {"end": "00:53:36", "start": "00:53:31", "text": "orchards, too. Sometimes it sounded like"}, {"end": "00:53:39", "start": "00:53:33", "text": "a goose honking, but other times it was"}, {"end": "00:53:41", "start": "00:53:36", "text": "more disturbing, like a lost baby crying"}, {"end": "00:53:44", "start": "00:53:39", "text": "somewhere deep in the trees. What really"}, {"end": "00:53:46", "start": "00:53:41", "text": "got everybody though was when Evelyn"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:44", "text": "Utrup was chased into her farmhouse by"}, {"end": "00:53:53", "start": "00:53:46", "text": "the same creature in early summer of 64."}, {"end": "00:53:55", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "She was terrified, breathing hard, and"}, {"end": "00:53:57", "start": "00:53:53", "text": "could hardly feel the ground shaking"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:55", "text": "beneath her feet as this thing chased"}, {"end": "00:54:03", "start": "00:53:57", "text": "her across her own property. Whatever"}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "was behind her was so massive that with"}, {"end": "00:54:08", "start": "00:54:03", "text": "each step it took, the entire farmhouse"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "would tremble slightly like there was a"}, {"end": "00:54:13", "start": "00:54:08", "text": "small earthquake. After this, Evelyn"}, {"end": "00:54:14", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "finally broke the silence and told her"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:13", "text": "neighbors about what had happened. And"}, {"end": "00:54:20", "start": "00:54:14", "text": "that, my friends, opened the floodgates."}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "Suddenly, everyone was sharing stories"}, {"end": "00:54:25", "start": "00:54:20", "text": "that they had previously kept secret."}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "Some locals even had this theory that"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:25", "text": "the creature was"}, {"end": "00:54:31", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "semiacquatic, basically spending the"}, {"end": "00:54:33", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "daylight hours lurking under the surface"}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:31", "text": "of Dewey Lake before coming out at"}, {"end": "00:54:38", "start": "00:54:33", "text": "night. That brings us back to Gordon and"}, {"end": "00:54:40", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "Randall Brown on June 9th, 1964."}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:38", "text": "They had come to Evelyn's farm with"}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:40", "text": "Goran's wife, Mary, and a neighboring"}, {"end": "00:54:47", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "girl to investigate all the strange"}, {"end": "00:54:49", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "things that had been happening. When"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:47", "text": "they saw that tree move and realized it"}, {"end": "00:54:53", "start": "00:54:49", "text": "was the creature, they didn't stick"}, {"end": "00:54:55", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "around to get a better look. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:53", "text": "they turned and ran as fast as their"}, {"end": "00:54:59", "start": "00:54:55", "text": "legs would carry them. Evelyn was so"}, {"end": "00:55:01", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "terrified by this that she called the"}, {"end": "00:55:04", "start": "00:54:59", "text": "Cass County Sheriff's Department, just"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:01", "text": "completely hysterical. And so when"}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:04", "text": "deputies arrived, they found a single"}, {"end": "00:55:11", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "large track they couldn't identify. Both"}, {"end": "00:55:13", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "Gordon and Randall, who were experienced"}, {"end": "00:55:16", "start": "00:55:11", "text": "hunters familiar with all the local"}, {"end": "00:55:18", "start": "00:55:13", "text": "wildlife, just insisted that whatever"}, {"end": "00:55:20", "start": "00:55:16", "text": "they saw was definitely not a bear. And"}, {"end": "00:55:23", "start": "00:55:18", "text": "this was the first time authorities had"}, {"end": "00:55:25", "start": "00:55:20", "text": "officially documented an investigation"}, {"end": "00:55:28", "start": "00:55:23", "text": "into a creature. And by the very next"}, {"end": "00:55:30", "start": "00:55:25", "text": "day, Wednesday, June 10th, someone had"}, {"end": "00:55:34", "start": "00:55:28", "text": "posted a sign pointing toward Utre's"}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:30", "text": "farm with just one word on it, monster."}, {"end": "00:55:39", "start": "00:55:34", "text": "Then a radio broadcaster in Benton"}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "Harbor mistakenly announced that"}, {"end": "00:55:44", "start": "00:55:39", "text": "authorities were organizing a hunting"}, {"end": "00:55:46", "start": "00:55:41", "text": "party to track it down. Within hours,"}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:44", "text": "monster hunters started arriving from"}, {"end": "00:55:51", "start": "00:55:46", "text": "all over Michigan. Some coming as far"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "away as Ohio. Most of them brought"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:51", "text": "weapons, guns, knives, tire irons,"}, {"end": "00:55:58", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "anything they could to use or protect"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "themselves with. Law enforcement from"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:55:58", "text": "neighboring counties had to be called in"}, {"end": "00:56:05", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "just to help maintain order. This quiet"}, {"end": "00:56:07", "start": "00:56:03", "text": "farming community was suddenly overrun"}, {"end": "00:56:09", "start": "00:56:05", "text": "with thrillsekers and monster hunters. I"}, {"end": "00:56:11", "start": "00:56:07", "text": "mean, it was basically chaos. The"}, {"end": "00:56:14", "start": "00:56:09", "text": "situation got even more intense on"}, {"end": "00:56:15", "start": "00:56:11", "text": "Thursday, June 11th, when three teenage"}, {"end": "00:56:18", "start": "00:56:14", "text": "girls had their own encounter with this"}, {"end": "00:56:22", "start": "00:56:15", "text": "thing near Swisser Street and Town Hall"}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:18", "text": "Road. You had Joyce Smith, who was 13,"}, {"end": "00:56:27", "start": "00:56:22", "text": "sisters Paty and Gail Clayton, 12 and"}, {"end": "00:56:30", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "13, all walking along when this thing"}, {"end": "00:56:32", "start": "00:56:27", "text": "crossed the road right in front of them."}, {"end": "00:56:35", "start": "00:56:30", "text": "Paty got the clearest view and described"}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:32", "text": "it as 7 ft walking on two legs, black"}, {"end": "00:56:41", "start": "00:56:35", "text": "leathery face, just like all the other"}, {"end": "00:56:43", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "reports had mentioned. But poor Choice"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:41", "text": "actually fainted when she saw it. But"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:43", "text": "her friends quickly revived her and then"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "they all ran to the nearest house to"}, {"end": "00:56:51", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "call for help. Now, their detailed"}, {"end": "00:56:53", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "accounts were so convincing that"}, {"end": "00:56:56", "start": "00:56:51", "text": "authorities intensified their search,"}, {"end": "00:56:58", "start": "00:56:53", "text": "even calling in a state police plane to"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:56", "text": "search from the air. And by Friday, on"}, {"end": "00:57:05", "start": "00:56:58", "text": "June 12th, this mystery had exploded"}, {"end": "00:57:07", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "into a fullblown media frenzy. Chicago's"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:05", "text": "American newspaper published a front"}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "page drawing of the monster done by Mary"}, {"end": "00:57:15", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "Brown, and reporters from Chicago and"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "Detroit swarmed into the Sister Lakes"}, {"end": "00:57:20", "start": "00:57:15", "text": "area. Robert Walker, the local guy who"}, {"end": "00:57:23", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "claimed to be pretty familiar with the"}, {"end": "00:57:25", "start": "00:57:20", "text": "thing, reported finding big ape tracks"}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:23", "text": "in the forest near Dewey Lake and warned"}, {"end": "00:57:31", "start": "00:57:25", "text": "that the scared thing might make someone"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "get killed. The small community was"}, {"end": "00:57:35", "start": "00:57:31", "text": "suddenly the focus of national"}, {"end": "00:57:37", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "attention. I mean, you had skeptics and"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:35", "text": "believers arguing about the existence in"}, {"end": "00:57:42", "start": "00:57:37", "text": "newspapers across the country. And of"}, {"end": "00:57:44", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "course, many saw this as an opportunity"}, {"end": "00:57:47", "start": "00:57:42", "text": "to make some money. You had local"}, {"end": "00:57:49", "start": "00:57:44", "text": "entrepreneurs forming groups called the"}, {"end": "00:57:52", "start": "00:57:47", "text": "Monster Boosters to try and promote"}, {"end": "00:57:54", "start": "00:57:49", "text": "tourism. Businesses started selling all"}, {"end": "00:57:56", "start": "00:57:52", "text": "sorts of themed products and services."}, {"end": "00:57:59", "start": "00:57:54", "text": "And as you can imagine, the community"}, {"end": "00:58:00", "start": "00:57:56", "text": "quickly became pretty divided between"}, {"end": "00:58:02", "start": "00:57:59", "text": "those trying to make a quick buck off"}, {"end": "00:58:05", "start": "00:58:00", "text": "all this and those who were genuinely"}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:02", "text": "terrified. The migrant workers who came"}, {"end": "00:58:09", "start": "00:58:05", "text": "to the area for seasonal farm work were"}, {"end": "00:58:12", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "particularly scared with many refusing"}, {"end": "00:58:15", "start": "00:58:09", "text": "to work anywhere near the wooded areas."}, {"end": "00:58:16", "start": "00:58:12", "text": "And as a matter of fact, one of the most"}, {"end": "00:58:19", "start": "00:58:15", "text": "compelling encounters happened in"}, {"end": "00:58:22", "start": "00:58:16", "text": "midJune when this seasonal farm worker"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:19", "text": "known simply as Arturo was finishing his"}, {"end": "00:58:27", "start": "00:58:22", "text": "day cleaning equipment right near the"}, {"end": "00:58:29", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "treeine as the sun was setting. And he"}, {"end": "00:58:32", "start": "00:58:27", "text": "first noticed this nauseating,"}, {"end": "00:58:34", "start": "00:58:29", "text": "unfamiliar smell. And then he spotted a"}, {"end": "00:58:36", "start": "00:58:32", "text": "dark figure moving on two legs coming"}, {"end": "00:58:38", "start": "00:58:34", "text": "out of the forest. He ran toward the"}, {"end": "00:58:40", "start": "00:58:36", "text": "barn for safety, calling for help, but"}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:38", "text": "he could hear it running behind him,"}, {"end": "00:58:44", "start": "00:58:40", "text": "making these grunting and wheezing"}, {"end": "00:58:46", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "sounds. What really scared him was that"}, {"end": "00:58:48", "start": "00:58:44", "text": "this thing seemed to be smart, like it"}, {"end": "00:58:51", "start": "00:58:46", "text": "actually flanked him. Suddenly,"}, {"end": "00:58:53", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "appearing ahead near a tractor,"}, {"end": "00:58:55", "start": "00:58:51", "text": "exhausted and cornered, he collapsed and"}, {"end": "00:58:57", "start": "00:58:53", "text": "called desperately for help. His"}, {"end": "00:58:58", "start": "00:58:55", "text": "co-workers rushed from the barn when"}, {"end": "00:59:00", "start": "00:58:57", "text": "they heard his cries, and the thing"}, {"end": "00:59:02", "start": "00:58:58", "text": "retreated back into the woods as the"}, {"end": "00:59:04", "start": "00:59:00", "text": "group approached. His experience"}, {"end": "00:59:06", "start": "00:59:02", "text": "convinced many of the previously"}, {"end": "00:59:09", "start": "00:59:04", "text": "skeptical migrant workers that there"}, {"end": "00:59:11", "start": "00:59:06", "text": "really was something out there. Around"}, {"end": "00:59:14", "start": "00:59:09", "text": "this time on Wednesday, June 17th, there"}, {"end": "00:59:18", "start": "00:59:11", "text": "was an incident about 130 mi north of"}, {"end": "00:59:20", "start": "00:59:14", "text": "Dewey Lake near Ionia, Michigan. Two"}, {"end": "00:59:23", "start": "00:59:18", "text": "brothers spotted what appeared to be a"}, {"end": "00:59:26", "start": "00:59:20", "text": "Bigfoot crossing I 96. And later, a"}, {"end": "00:59:27", "start": "00:59:23", "text": "state trooper pursued the same thing."}, {"end": "00:59:30", "start": "00:59:26", "text": "But this one unfortunately turned out to"}, {"end": "00:59:33", "start": "00:59:27", "text": "be a hoax. The trooper recovered a glove"}, {"end": "00:59:35", "start": "00:59:30", "text": "from a monster suit left behind by the"}, {"end": "00:59:37", "start": "00:59:33", "text": "pranksters. Now, some authorities"}, {"end": "00:59:39", "start": "00:59:35", "text": "suggested this proved all the monster"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:37", "text": "sightings were hoax, but others pointed"}, {"end": "00:59:43", "start": "00:59:39", "text": "out the significant distance between the"}, {"end": "00:59:45", "start": "00:59:41", "text": "incidents and the difference in the"}, {"end": "00:59:48", "start": "00:59:43", "text": "descriptions. The situation was getting"}, {"end": "00:59:50", "start": "00:59:45", "text": "so bad that a local beer distributor"}, {"end": "00:59:53", "start": "00:59:48", "text": "named Jack Handley offered a $1,000"}, {"end": "00:59:55", "start": "00:59:50", "text": "bounty for the live capture of the Dewey"}, {"end": "00:59:58", "start": "00:59:53", "text": "Lake Monster. Now, that's a lot of money"}, {"end": "01:00:01", "start": "00:59:55", "text": "in 1964, but Sheriff Robert Duel had to"}, {"end": "01:00:03", "start": "00:59:58", "text": "intervene and call off the reward before"}, {"end": "01:00:05", "start": "01:00:01", "text": "June 22nd because things were just"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:03", "text": "getting out of hand with all these armed"}, {"end": "01:00:10", "start": "01:00:05", "text": "monster hunters roaming around. By this"}, {"end": "01:00:12", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "point, rumors were spreading among the"}, {"end": "01:00:15", "start": "01:00:10", "text": "migrant farm workers that the monster"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:12", "text": "had killed four people. Many seasonal"}, {"end": "01:00:19", "start": "01:00:15", "text": "workers just abandoned their jobs"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "completely, leaving farms critically"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:19", "text": "short-handed. Those who stayed refused"}, {"end": "01:00:27", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "to work after dusk and slept in their"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "locked cars. Some reported significant"}, {"end": "01:00:32", "start": "01:00:27", "text": "economic losses because their crops"}, {"end": "01:00:35", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "weren't being harvested. By late June,"}, {"end": "01:00:37", "start": "01:00:32", "text": "the sightings began to decrease. Media"}, {"end": "01:00:39", "start": "01:00:35", "text": "interest waned as news stories captured"}, {"end": "01:00:41", "start": "01:00:37", "text": "national attention, but the monster"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:39", "text": "hunters gradually returned home without"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:41", "text": "any evidence and businesses phased out"}, {"end": "01:00:48", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "of their monster themed promotions. An"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "officer by the name of Paul Parish later"}, {"end": "01:00:53", "start": "01:00:48", "text": "stated that they investigated it long"}, {"end": "01:00:56", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "and hard, but never determined what it"}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:53", "text": "was. To this day, there's been no"}, {"end": "01:01:01", "start": "01:00:56", "text": "definitive explanation ever given. And"}, {"end": "01:01:03", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "over the years, the Dewey Lake monster"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:01:01", "text": "has become a part of Michigan's"}, {"end": "01:01:11", "start": "01:01:03", "text": "folklore. That is until July of 2021."}, {"end": "01:01:13", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "There was a surprising resurgence of"}, {"end": "01:01:16", "start": "01:01:11", "text": "interest when an anonymous man kaying"}, {"end": "01:01:20", "start": "01:01:13", "text": "down the Cass River in Tuscola County"}, {"end": "01:01:22", "start": "01:01:16", "text": "captured some unusual footage. As he"}, {"end": "01:01:25", "start": "01:01:20", "text": "rounded a bend, he spotted a large"}, {"end": "01:01:26", "start": "01:01:22", "text": "figure waiting across the river."}, {"end": "01:01:30", "start": "01:01:25", "text": "Apparently carrying something in its"}, {"end": "01:01:32", "start": "01:01:26", "text": "arms, possibly a dog, a deer, or some"}, {"end": "01:01:34", "start": "01:01:30", "text": "smaller animal. The kayaker recorded"}, {"end": "01:01:36", "start": "01:01:32", "text": "about 5 seconds before it disappeared"}, {"end": "01:01:39", "start": "01:01:34", "text": "into the thick foliage. After the"}, {"end": "01:01:41", "start": "01:01:36", "text": "footage was analyzed by the Rocky"}, {"end": "01:01:43", "start": "01:01:39", "text": "Mountain Sasquatch organization, they"}, {"end": "01:01:45", "start": "01:01:41", "text": "concluded that it was genuine."}, {"end": "01:01:47", "start": "01:01:43", "text": "Unfortunately, we don't know if this all"}, {"end": "01:01:49", "start": "01:01:45", "text": "really was just a hoax or if maybe this"}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:47", "text": "was just a misidentified Bigfoot or if"}, {"end": "01:01:53", "start": "01:01:49", "text": "it's its own creature. We just don't"}, {"end": "01:01:55", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "know. Like everything else I've shared"}, {"end": "01:01:58", "start": "01:01:53", "text": "with you today in this episode, folks,"}, {"end": "01:02:00", "start": "01:01:55", "text": "it all remains a mystery. And because"}, {"end": "01:02:04", "start": "01:01:58", "text": "you guys made it this far, I want you to"}, {"end": "01:02:06", "start": "01:02:00", "text": "all comment below Bigfoot or Big Feet."}, {"end": "01:02:08", "start": "01:02:04", "text": "So that way I know who made it to the"}, {"end": "01:02:10", "start": "01:02:06", "text": "end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"end": "01:02:12", "start": "01:02:08", "text": "enjoy this kind of content where we deep"}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:02:10", "text": "dive into storytelling of the mysterious"}, {"end": "01:02:16", "start": "01:02:12", "text": "and supernatural, what are you waiting"}, {"end": "01:02:18", "start": "01:02:14", "text": "for? Smack that like and subscribe"}, {"end": "01:02:21", "start": "01:02:16", "text": "button right now for more content just"}, {"end": "01:02:23", "start": "01:02:18", "text": "like this. 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[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "When law enforcement officers encounter"}, {"end": "00:00:07", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "something they can't explain, something"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "that defies their training and"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:07", "text": "experience, it shakes them to their"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "core. A San Diego sheriff's deputy pulls"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "over a terrified psychiatrist who's"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "carrying a loaded 44 Magnum to protect"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "his family from something he calls"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "Zubies, and they're destroying his"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "property. Two Pennsylvania police"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "officers seeking a relaxing weekend at a"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "remote hunting cabin are instead"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "surrounded by vocalizations that circle"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "their camp in the darkness. In this"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "episode, I'm going to take you through"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "two cases that prove even the most"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "skeptical trained observers can come"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "face to face with the unexplainable. I'm"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "Josh Shinocchio. This is What Lurks"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "Beneath. You won't want to miss this"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "one. Late one night in 1970, a San Diego"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "County Sheriff's deputy was patrolling a"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "dark mountain road when he pulled over a"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "car that would lead him into one of the"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "strangest cases of his entire career."}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "The deputy's name was Doug Hughes, and"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "he'd only been with the San Diego County"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "Sheriff's Department for about a year at"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "this point. He joined in 1969 and by"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "March of 70 he'd been assigned to patrol"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "a small town called Alpine which sits"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "about 30 mi east of San Diego right up"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "in the mountains. Doug worked the"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "overnight shifts which meant that he'd"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "spent most of his time driving these"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "winding empty roads through the Quamaka"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "Mountains basically just watching for"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "drunken drivers or broken down cars or"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "anything else that might need attention"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "in the middle of the night. Now, Alpine"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "was not exactly a hot bed of criminal"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "activity. It was this quiet little"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "mountain community where not much"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "happened, and most nights Doug's shift"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "were pretty uneventful. He'd drive"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "around, check on businesses, maybe help"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "someone with a flat tire, but that was"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "about it. On this night in late 1970,"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "Doug's partner was driving their patrol"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "car when he spotted a vehicle heading"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "eastbound that caught his attention."}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "There was something about the way it was"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "moving. I mean, maybe it was weaving a"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "little bit that made him decide to pull"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "it over. And so, you know, he flipped on"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "his lights and the car pulled over to"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "the side of the mountain road and Doug"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "and his partner got out and approached"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "the vehicle, flashlights in hand. I"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "mean, this was standard procedure, one"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "officer on each side of the car. And as"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "Doug's partner reached the driver's"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "window and started talking to the"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "driver, Doug could see the man inside"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "looked really nervous. His hands were"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "shaking as he reached for his wallet."}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "The driver, well-dressed, looked to be"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "in his 40s, and when he handed over his"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "license, the officers saw his name was"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "Richard Bador. The address on the"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "license showed he lived right there in"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "Alpine. Now, Doug's partner was going"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "through the routine questions, you know,"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "where are you coming from? Where are you"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "headed? When suddenly, Richard blurted"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "out that he had a gun in the car, and"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "not just any gun, but a fully loaded 44"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "Magnum with a 6-in barrel. Immediately,"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "both officers tensed up. I mean, in"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "those days, finding someone with a"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "loaded handgun during a traffic stop was"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "not common, especially in this"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "community. And a 44 Magnum, well, that's"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "a serious weapon. It's designed to stop"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "very large threats. So, Doug's partner"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "asked Richard to keep his hands on the"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "steering wheel while Doug went around"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "and carefully retrieved the weapon. Sure"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "enough, there it was. A massive revolver"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "fully loaded. Now, carrying a loaded"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "firearm in your vehicle wasn't"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "necessarily illegal, but it definitely"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "raised questions. I mean, why would"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "someone need that kind of firepower"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "driving around Alpine at night? So,"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "Doug's partner asked Richard straight"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "out, \"Why do you have this gun?\""}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "Richard's answer was something neither"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "officer expected. He looked at them"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "right in the eye, completely serious and"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "genuine, and explained he needed it for"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "protection from the Zubies. Doug and his"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "partner just exchanged glances and"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "they're like, \"Zubies? What in the world"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "is that?\" Richard must have seen their"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "confusion because he quickly added that"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "he was a psychiatrist and he had a"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "practice in San Diego and that he lived"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "here in Alpine with his wife and two"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "kids, a 13-year-old son, and a"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "17-year-old daughter. He wasn't some"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "lunatic. He was a medical professional."}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "But he insisted he needed that gun"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "because of what was happening at his"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "property. Now, at this point, Doug was"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "thinking they might be dealing with"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "someone who's on the verge of a mental"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "health crisis. I mean, here's a"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "psychiatrist talking about needing a"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "loaded 44 Magnum to protect himself. But"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "Richard was very lucid. He wasn't drunk."}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "He wasn't on drugs. He was just"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "terrified. And the officers decided not"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "to arrest Richard or confiscate his"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "weapon, but they were definitely curious"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "about what was going on. So, they told"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "them to be careful and, you know, they"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "sent him on his way. They didn't really"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "have a way to understand the"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "interaction, but they would soon enough."}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "And that was the end of it either, and"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "not by a long shot. Over the next few"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "days, Doug couldn't stop thinking about"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "that traffic stop because his job had"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "been so routine at this point. Stopping"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "a psychiatrist and having them tell you"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "that they needed protection from Zubies"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "is so left field. Well, Doug and his"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "partner decided to do a little"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "investigating on their own time. And"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "they found out that Richard had actually"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "purchased a ranch property in Alpine not"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "too long ago. He bought it from an"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "elderly German couple who'd lived there"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "for years. The property was located on a"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "small road about a third of a mile off"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "Alpine Boulevard, kind of tucked away"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "with only about four or five neighbors"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "nearby. It had fruit trees, an apple"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "orchard, and there was even a stream"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "about 3/4 of a mile behind the property."}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "It sounded like a perfect place to raise"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "a family. But Doug and his partner also"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "heard some strange rumors about the"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "property. I mean, people in town said"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "weird things happened out there. Nothing"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "specific, just weird things. So, one"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "night during their shift, Doug and his"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "partner decided to drive out to"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "Richard's property just to check it out."}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "And as they turned on to the small road"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "leading to the house, the first thing"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "they noticed was the lighting. Every"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "single exterior bulb on the property,"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "the porch lights, the lights by the"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "garage, everything was yellow. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "not white like normal bulbs, but yellow."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "And so they pulled up and Doug could see"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "it was a nice place. You know, it wasn't"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "run down. It didn't look ratty. It was"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "just a singlestory ranch home. It was"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "wellmaintained with the apple orchard"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "visible off to one side. But there was"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "something else that he noticed. The"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "fence around the apple orchard looked"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "like it had been recently repaired. In"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "fact, it looked like sections had been"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "completely rebuilt. Doug and his partner"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "knocked on the door and after a moment,"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "Richard answered. He recognized them"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "immediately and actually seemed relieved"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "to see them. And so he invited them in"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "and that's when Doug got to hear the"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "full story. And folks, it was absolutely"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "bizarre. Richard told them that when"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "he'd first bought the property, the"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "previous owner, that elderly German man,"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "had pulled him aside and given him a"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "very specific warning. He explained that"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "whatever you do, do not, and I mean do"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "not, change the yellow light bulbs to"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "white ones. keep them yellow. Richard"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "had thought this was strange, but the"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "old man was deadly serious about it. And"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "at first, Richard had humored the old"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "man and left the yellow bulbs, but after"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "living there a few weeks, he decided it"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "was just all silly superstition, that it"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "couldn't possibly be true. And so, he"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "wanted regular white lights like a"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "normal house. So, he went around,"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "replaced every single bulb with a white"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "one. And that's when the activity"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "started. The very first night after he"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "changed it, Richard and his family were"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "awakened by a thunderous crashing sound."}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "Richard grabbed a flashlight, ran"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "outside thinking maybe a tree had fallen"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "or something. But when he got to the"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "apple orchard, he found that the entire"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "fence around it had been torn down. I"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "mean, not just damaged, I'm talking"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "completely destroyed. There were posts"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "ripped out of the ground and boards"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "scattered everywhere. And Richard"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "figured it must have been vandals, maybe"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "kids causing trouble. So he spent the"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "next day rebuilding the fence, making it"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "even stronger than before. But the next"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "night, the same thing had happened. The"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "fence was destroyed again. And this went"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "on for several nights in a row. Richard"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "would rebuild the fence during the day"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "and something would tear it down at"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "night. But here's a really strange part"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "is that Richard never found any tire"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "tracks. There were no footprints. There"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "was never any evidence of tools that had"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "been used. It was like the fence had"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "simply been torn apart by hand. But that"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "didn't make sense because the amount of"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "strength it would require. But Richard"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "noticed something else weird. Apples"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "were going missing from his orchard, but"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "only from the very highest branches. I"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "mean, we're talking 10 ft up or higher"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "at least. The lower branches were oddly"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "untouched. Richard tried looking for"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "ladder marks. You know, he looked for"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "broken branches where someone might have"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "climbed, but there was no evidence to"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "support that. It was like something tall"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "enough to reach those high branches were"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "just walking through and plucking apples"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "off the top. Richard's family also"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "started noticing this horrible smell at"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "night and it would kind of just drift"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "through the property. It was this awful"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "stench like rotting garbage mixed with"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "wet dog. And it was so bad they'd have"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "to close all the windows and even then"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "the smell would sometimes seep in. One"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "morning, Richard's wife found her brass"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "windchime, which was very heavy and"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "solid that hung from their porch"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "completely flattened on the ground. I"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "mean, like something had stepped on it"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "and crushed it. Richard also kept"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "chickens on the property, and he had"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "this sturdy chicken coupe that he built"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "himself. And one morning, he went out"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "there to feed the chickens and found the"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "entire coupe had been shifted off of its"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "foundation. And keep in mind, this thing"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "weighed hundreds of pounds, but it"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "hadn't been moved several feet. and"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "there were strange tracks around it. He"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "tried to make sense of the tracks, but"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "they didn't look like anything he'd"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "recognized. They were too big to be"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "human and wrong in shape to be a bear,"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "and they only had four toes. It gets"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "even more terrifying. One evening when"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "he was inside the house, his wife was in"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "the kitchen and Richard was in the"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "living room when he heard his wife's"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "voice from outside calling the chickens."}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "You know, she was saying, \"Here, chicky"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "chicky. Here, chicky chicky.\" And"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "Richard thought this was odd because his"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "wife was actually in the kitchen and he"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "could see her from where he was sitting."}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "So, who was outside imitating his wife's"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "voice? He quickly grabbed a flashlight"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "and he ran outside and the voice stopped"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "immediately. And you know, so he"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "searched around the chicken coop really"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "quick. He looked everywhere, but he"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "didn't find anything. Just strange four"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "toad tracks in the dirt. After weeks of"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "this, Richard was at his wit's end. He"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "tried everything. staying up all night"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "to watch, setting up trip wires, and"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "even mounting cameras around the"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "property. But whatever was causing these"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "disturbances seemed to know when it was"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "being watched. I mean, the cameras would"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "malfunction or the film would be ruined"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "or simply nothing would happen when he"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "was actively monitoring. And then one"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "night, Richard's family finally saw what"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "was causing all the issues. It was"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "around 2:00 in the morning, and"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "Richard's teenage daughter woke up"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "because she had heard noises outside her"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "window. And you know, she peeked through"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "the curtains and there in the apple"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "orchard, illuminated by the moon, was"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "this massive creature. And she said that"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "it was covered in dark hair and was"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "standing upright like a person, but much"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "taller, probably around 7 ft. And it was"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "reaching up with these really long arms,"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "plucking apples from the branches and"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "eating them. And the daughter was frozen"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "in terror by watching this because she"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "just wanted to scream and wanted to wake"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "up her parents, but she couldn't move."}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "She just watched as this thing ate apple"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "after apple. And then, as if it sensed"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "her watching, it turned and looked"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "directly at her window. And she said its"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "eyes reflected the moonlight like an"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "animal's eyes would. And then it simply"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "turned and walked away on two legs, not"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "four, and was gone. When she finally"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "managed to wake up her parents and tell"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "them what she saw, Richard didn't waste"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "any time. He grabbed his 44 and he went"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "outside, but it was already gone. All"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "that remained were more of those strange"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "four-toed tracks and the stripped apple"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "branches. After that night, the"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "sightings became much more frequent."}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "Richard's wife saw it near the chicken"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "coupe one evening, and his son saw it"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "walking along the treeine. Richard"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "himself finally got a good look at it"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "one night when he was trying to protect"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "his own chickens. What's really"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "interesting is that Richard never once"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "used the words Bigfoot or Sasquatch or"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "even ape or gorilla when he was"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "recounting his experiences. He just for"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "whatever reason called them zooies. I"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "don't know why. And he said them because"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "Richard claimed there wasn't just one"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "that there were three. Now, also"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "according to Richard, there was a large"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "male that stood about 7 ft tall and a"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "smaller female that was maybe 5t tall."}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "And this is what really was mind-blowing"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "to Doug. There was a juvenile that was"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "maybe 4t tall. Clearly a family unit."}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "And Richard explained that he'd seen all"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "three of them together one night moving"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "through his property like they own the"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "place. And the way they were described,"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "they weren't exactly like, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Bigfoot. They didn't look like, you"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "know, a typical ape would. They had very"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "human-like features. Doug had asked"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "Richard if he'd reported this to anyone"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "besides the police. And Richard said"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "yes. Actually, a researcher named Ken"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] had come out to investigate. And"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "this was a guy who wrote for Saga"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "magazine, and he was very interested in"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "Richard's story. He'd already spent time"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "on the property. He looked at the"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "tracks, interviewed the family, you"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "know, and was convinced something"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "genuinely strange was happening there."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "In fact, he'd written about it in the"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "July 1975 issue of Saga magazine, though"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "he'd had to change some names and"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "details. Richard also showed Doug"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "something that he kept, a plaster cast"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "he made of one of the footprints. And"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "this thing, folks, was huge, about 14 in"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "long and wider than Doug's size 12 shoe."}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "But again, the strangest part was that"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "it clearly showed only four toes. And"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "the shape was very strange as well."}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "Broad at the front, but narrow and"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "pointed at the heel. Like whatever made"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "it was designed for gripping rather than"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "just walking. So, you know, Doug held"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "that plaster cast in his hands. And, you"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "know, he's feeling the weight of it"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "looking at these four clear toe"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "impressions and he didn't know what to"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "think. Richard was obviously an"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "intelligent, educated man, but he was"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "also a practicing psychiatrist with a"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "family and a reputation to maintain."}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "What's he going to tell the public? Why"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "would he make something like this up?"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "Well, you guys tell me. Richard wasn't"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "the only one who'd had experiences"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "either. Doug and his partner started"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "asking around discreetly, and they found"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "out that there had been other sightings"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "in the area. Go figure. There was a"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "place called Proctor Valley Road about"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "30 minutes from Alpine down near the"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "Mexican border. People had been"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "reporting something they call the"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "Proctor Valley Monster since at least"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "1947. According to local historian Wendy"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "Wilson, the legend started when two"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "middle school boys found a mutilated"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "calf on Proctor Valley Road. The calf"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "had been torn apart in a way that didn't"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "match any known predator, and there were"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "also strange tracks around it. Since"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "then, people had reported seeing this"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "hairy creature in the area, especially"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "near the vehicle crossing at the border."}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "Even more interesting is the Native"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "American connection. The Vehas Native"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "Reservation was just north of Interstate"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "8, not far from Richard's property. And"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "the Veas people had legends going back"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "generations about the same type of"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "being, a giant hairy man who protected"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "their sacred burial grounds from"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "intruders. Those burial grounds, well,"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "they were located about 2 miles north of"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "Richie's property. Doug's partner became"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "a bit obsessed with this case, and on"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "his days off, he'd take his son out to"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "Richard's property, and, you know,"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "they'd stake out hoping to see"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "something. They'd sit in their car all"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "night with binoculars and cameras,"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "watching and waiting. And a couple of"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "times, they heard strange noises, you"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "know, like wood knocking or bizarre"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "howls, unlike coyotes or mountain lions,"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "but they never saw the creatures."}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "Richard, meanwhile, was taking more"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "drastic measures. He'd installed motion"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "sensor flood lights all around. He"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "figured if these things didn't like"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "white light, then maybe bright white"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "flood lights would keep them away. And"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "strangely enough, it seemed to work."}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "After Richard installed the lights, the"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "activity on the property decreased"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "dramatically. The fence stayed intact,"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "the apples were left alone, and the"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "awful smells became less frequent. The"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "beings, whatever they were, seemed to"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "have moved on. Doug kept in touch with"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "Richard over the years and by 1991,"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "Richard was still practicing psychiatry"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "in downtown San Diego. He told Doug he"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "was planning to write a book about his"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "experiences with the Zubies, though Doug"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "doesn't know if that book was ever"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "published. Doug himself would share this"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "story publicly for the first time in"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "1992, more than 20 years after that"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "strange traffic stop. By then, he'd"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "already heard similar reports from other"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "deputies who'd worked in the East County"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "area and even from counselors at the"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "juvenile detention center who'd heard"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "kids from the mountain communities"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "talking about seeing the hairy people in"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "the woods. To this day, Doug doesn't"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "know what to make of it all. Was"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "Richard's family really being harassed"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "by a family of unknown creatures? Were"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "they seeing bears and letting their"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "imagination run wild? Or was there"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "something else going on entirely? What"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "Doug does know is that Richard Bedor was"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "genuinely terrified of something."}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "Terrified enough to carry a loaded 44"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "Magnum and terrified enough to"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "completely change his property with"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "flood lights. The creatures called"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "Zubies were never photographed, never"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "captured, and never proven to exist,"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "unfortunately. But the plaster cast"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "ended up in Peter Gatillaa's book, The"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "Bigfoot Files, where it remains one of"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "the most unusual pieces of evidence of"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "all time. In late September of 1996, a"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "police officer named BC was driving"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "through the backwoods of Clinton County,"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "Pennsylvania with his friend, who"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "happened to be the chief of police in"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "their department. The two men had been"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "looking forward to this weekend for"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "weeks. They were both exhausted from"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "their demanding jobs, you know, dealing"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "with the usual chaos that comes with law"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "enforcement, and they just really needed"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "to get away from all of it. Their"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "destination was a remote hunting cabin"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "about 3 miles down Beaver Dam Road in an"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "area called Beaver Dam Hollow near"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "Hammersley Fork. The cabin had this"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "quirky name, Camp Hit or Miss, which had"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "been given to it years ago by the"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "hunting club that owned it. Now, even"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "though this was a hunting cabin owned by"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "a hunting club with multiple members, BC"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "and his friend weren't going there to"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "hunt. They were just going to relax. you"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "know, do some target shooting with their"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "firearms they brought and basically"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "decompress from the stress of their job."}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "Around midm morning, after navigating"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "the winding dirt roads that led deeper"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "and deeper into the Pennsylvania"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "wilderness, they finally pulled up to"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "the cabin, and it was exactly what you'd"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "expect from a remote hunting camp, a"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "simple wooden structure surrounded by"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "dense forest with a small porch out"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "front. The whole area was incredibly"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "peaceful and quiet, which was exactly"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "what they were looking for. Now, this"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "cabin was rarely used outside of bear"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "season and deer season. So, when BC and"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "his friend arrived, it had that, you"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "know, that musty smell of a place that"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "had been closed up for a while. But they"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "didn't mind. They unpacked their gear,"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "got settled in, and then went about"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "making themselves comfortable. They"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "built a fire in the old stone fireplace,"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "cooked up some lunch, and then they"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "spent the afternoon doing exactly what"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "they'd come there to do, target"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "shooting. They'd brought along a bunch"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "of tin cans, which they set up on logs"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "and fence posts around the property, and"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "then they just spent hours plinking away"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "at them with their firearms. It was"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "therapeutic in a way, you know, just"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "focusing on marksmanship without any of"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "the pressure or stress of their daily"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "lives. The entire time they're there,"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "these are just two guys having a good"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "time, occasionally ripping on each other"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "about missed shots and just enjoying the"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "getaway. The area around the cabin was"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "an incredible mix of different terrains."}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "There were massive laurel thickets that"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "grew up to 15 ft high in some places"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "with just such a high density that you"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "couldn't see through them. And then"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "there were stands of pine trees with"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "kind of a similar situation. Visibility"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "was limited to maybe like 10 ft because"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "how close the trees grew. But there were"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "also these open growth areas where you"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "could see for hundreds of yards and the"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "whole region was crisscrossed with"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "creeks with fresh water and you know the"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "forest floor was littered with beach"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "nuts and acorns from all the hardwood"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "trees. It truly was a beautiful place."}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "As the day got later and it turned to"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "evening, BC and his friend cleaned up"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "their makeshift shooting range, put away"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "their firearms, and settled in. After"}, {"end": "00:21:27", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "making dinner and talking about work,"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "they decided to step out onto the porch"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:27", "text": "to enjoy the night air. Now, it's"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "important to understand that neither of"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "these men had been drinking. They hadn't"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "touched any alcohol. They didn't have"}, {"end": "00:21:38", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "any intoxicants, and of course, their"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "officers. So, let's give them the"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:38", "text": "benefit of a doubt that they were also"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "completely sober. As they're standing"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "there just talking, both of them heard"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "something. From across the hollow on the"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "opposite mountain came this"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "vocalization, and it wasn't like"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "anything either of them had ever heard."}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "It was so incredibly loud, unnaturally"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "so, for how far away it seemed, that it"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "didn't make sense. And it was"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "persistent. And it wasn't just one call"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "or cry. It kept going. It was this long,"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "drawn out sound that seemed to echo"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "through the hollow itself. BC would"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "later struggle to describe it, but he"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "knew immediately that it wasn't any"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "animal he was familiar with. And"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "remember, these were two experienced"}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "outdoorsmen who had spent plenty of time"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "in Pennsylvania, which means they were"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "familiar with the sounds of elk, bear,"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "mountain lions, and this just didn't"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "match any of those sounds. As they're"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "listening to this noise, they realized"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "something that the sound began to move."}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "And over the course of about 15 or 20"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "minutes, whatever was making the"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "vocalization traveled from its original"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "position across the hollow to somewhere"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "behind their camp. It was like it was"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "circling them but staying far enough"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "away that they couldn't see it. BC and"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "his friend were very worried at this"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "point and they're both thinking the same"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "thing that what the heck is this thing?"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "And so they strain their ears a little"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "harder and they're trying to listen for"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "anything that might give them a clue."}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "You know, footsteps, branches, anything"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "that would let them know what this is."}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "But it was just deathly silent. All they"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "could hear was this otherworldly"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "vocalization just traveling through the"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "darkness. And to make matters worse, it"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "seemed to intentionally keep its"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "distance from the camp. And it never"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "came close enough for them to get a"}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "visual on it. Even though the sounds"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "were so loud that it felt like it should"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "be right on top of them. Now, for two"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "officers who were used to dealing with"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "very tense situations, this was uniquely"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "unnerving. And in their line of work,"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "they were accustomed to confronting"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "problems head-on. And if there was a"}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "threat, you identified it and dealt with"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "it. But this was so different than what"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "they were used to because they couldn't"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "identify it. They couldn't see it and"}, {"end": "00:23:47", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "they could barely even explain it. So"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "all they knew to do was to stay out on"}, {"end": "00:23:51", "start": "00:23:47", "text": "the porch for a while, their weapons"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "close at hand, and they just kept"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:51", "text": "watching and listening. And eventually"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "the vocalization stopped and the forest"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "returned to its normal nighttime quiet."}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "They then decided to go back inside. As"}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "you can imagine, neither of them slept"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "well at all. They kept expecting to hear"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "the sounds again, but it never came"}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "back. The following morning, BC was so"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "determined to find an explanation for"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "what it was they had heard. As soon as"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "it was light enough, he headed out to"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "explore the area where the sounds had"}, {"end": "00:24:23", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "originated. And he was thinking very"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "logically, right? He's looking for"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:23", "text": "tracks, scat, broken branches, anything"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "that might give him a clue about what"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "had been out there. And so he had spent"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "hours just combing through the area,"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "through all the dense laurel thickets"}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "and massive rocks and through the"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "hardwood groves where the sound had"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "first emerged. They drove him crazy"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "because he couldn't find anything, you"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "know. And even looking down at the"}, {"end": "00:24:47", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "ground, there was no signs of any large"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "animal moving through the area. There"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:47", "text": "were no tracks. I mean, it just there"}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "was no evidence at all. It just didn't"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "make sense. Now, even though both men"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "finished out their weekend at the cabin,"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "the relaxation that they had sought was"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "pretty much ruined. Now, due to the"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "nature of this event, uh when they got"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "back to civilization, they both agreed"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "not to talk about it much. I mean, they"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "were police officers and they dealt in"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "facts and evidence, not mysterious"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "sounds. Well, fast forward years later"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "and BC came across audio recordings made"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "by a researcher from Ohio. And these"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "recordings were of supposed"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "vocalizations. And when BC heard them,"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "the hair on the back of his neck stood"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "up. It was the same sound, or at least"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "similar enough that it brought him right"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "back to that night on the porch of camp"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "Hit or Miss. To this day, he has never"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "heard anything like it before or since."}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "And his friend, who eventually retired"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "from police work, went into private"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "security and still doesn't like to talk"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "about that night. And because you guys"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "have made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "comment below. badge believer. So that"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "way I know who made it to the end and"}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "who didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "content like this where we deep dive"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "into strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "this. As always, never forget I love you"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "all. Keep an open mind and I'll see you"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "all in the very next episode."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "In the deep sea, there are mysteries"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "that will keep you up at night. Unknown"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "sea creatures attacking Navy vessels."}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "Strange pathways appearing in the middle"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "of the ocean without explanation."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "Bizarre structures discovered under the"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "ocean that were not built by humans."}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "This episode will take you through three"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "cases that prove we don't know anything"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "about what's in the ocean. You won't"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "want to miss this one. On a calm day in"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "1978, a sonar technician named Petty"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "Officer Ira Carpenter sat in front of"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "his monitoring equipment deep inside the"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "USS Stein, a Knox class frigot cruising"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "through the deep Pacific waters"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "somewhere between Mexico and Ecuador."}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "The Stein was specifically designed for"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "anti-ubmarine warfare. An Irish job as"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "what the Navy called a ping jockey was"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "to listen for any underwater acoustic"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "signatures that might indicate Soviet"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "submarines lurking beneath them. Ira had"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "been on countless patrols just like this"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "one since the ship was commissioned back"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "in"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "1972. The ship was operating in blue"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "water, deep ocean, far from any shipping"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "lanes, and the weather was beautiful and"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "clear. Ira and the other sonar techs in"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "the combat information center had been"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "conducting their normal scanning"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "patterns for hours and it was honestly"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "kind of boring. Just staring at screens"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "and listening to the same sounds over"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "and over. But that's what submarine"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "hunting was. Just long stretches of"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "monotony broken up by brief moments of"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "excitement when they found something."}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "Suddenly, the sonar equipment detected"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "this extremely loud acoustic signal that"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "spiked all of their instruments. The"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "sound was deafening compared to the"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "normal ambient ocean noise they were"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "used to. Then, immediately after this"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "massive noise spike, something strange"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "happened. The entire sonar system just"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "failed. It went dead. The characteristic"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "pinging that had been their constant"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "companion suddenly stopped and it"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "created a silence in the room. Alarms"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "started going off all over the combat"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "information center. Ira and the other"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "technicians immediately jumped into"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "action, running emergency diagnostics on"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "all the equipment. They were thinking"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "maybe there was some kind of electronic"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "malfunction. Up on the bridge, officers"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "ordered lookouts to conduct intensive"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "visual scans of the surrounding waters,"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "but they couldn't see anything unusual"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "on the surface. There were no other"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "vessels nearby, at least according to"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "radar, and nobody on the ship had felt"}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "any kind of impact or jolt that would"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "suggest they'd collided with anything."}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "But after the technical investigation,"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "it became clear that there was likely"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "physical damage to the external sonar"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "dome. that big fiberglass structure"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "beneath the bow of the ship that housed"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "their advanced sonar system. This was"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "extremely concerning because without"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "functioning sonar, they had essentially"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "lost their primary submarine detection"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "capability. They were basically blind to"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "underwater threats. The commanding"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "officer assessed the situation and made"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "the decision that they had to abort the"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "mission. The USS Stein altered course"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "and headed back toward their home port"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "in California. as quickly as possible."}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "During the journey back, engineering"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "teams tried everything they could to"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "diagnose and fix the sonar failure, but"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "nothing worked. This just confirmed that"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "there had to be physical damage to the"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "dome itself. The entire crew started"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "speculating about what could have"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "possibly happened. Some thought it must"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "have been a mechanical failure. Others"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "suggested maybe they'd hit a shipping"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "container or, you know, some large piece"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "of floating debris. But nobody really"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "knew what had happened. And this event"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "set the tone throughout the ship during"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "the entire trip back. When the USS Stein"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "finally arrived back in California, the"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "ship was immediately placed in dry dock"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "so they could thoroughly examine the"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "hole and sonar dome. Navy engineers and"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "shipyard workers prepared to inspect"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "every inch of the underwater surfaces."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "As soon as all the water was pumped out"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "of the ship and it was fully exposed,"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "inspection teams approached the sonar"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "dome. And what they discovered shocked"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "everybody. About 8% of the sonar dome's"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "special rubber surface, a coating that"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "prevented marine growth and ensured"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "clear sound transmission, was"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "extensively damaged. I mean, there were"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "multiple sections completely ripped"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "open. You had large patches of rubber"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "missing or just hanging loose, and there"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "were numerous deep gashes and slashes"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "all over. One particularly enormous"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "gouge was measured at approximately 4 ft"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "long. Ira was actually part of the"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "inspection team, and to him, it looked"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "like the dome had been attacked by a"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "congregation of alligators. The reason"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "for this is that the rubber appeared to"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "be violently torn rather than showing"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "signs of, you know, mechanical wear and"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "tear. And then they found something even"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "stranger. There were several brokenoff"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "hooks or claws embedded deeply in the"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "torn rubber. These curved toothlike"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "objects were found lodged at the bottom"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "of many of the gashes. The inspection"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "teams carefully extracted all these"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "objects for further analysis and took"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "comprehensive photographs of the damage."}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "Even veteran sailors with decades of"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "experience were just astonished by what"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "they were seeing because nobody had ever"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "seen damage like this before. The Navy"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "assigned a respected marine biologist"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "named Dr. Forest G. Wood to examine"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "these strange findings. And when Dr."}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "Wood started his laboratory analysis. He"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "determined pretty quickly that these"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "objects weren't bone or mammal teeth. In"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "fact, further analysis identified them"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "as kiteness hooks, the kind typically"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "found on squid tentacle suction cups."}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "The hooks perfectly match the pattern of"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "slashes in the rubber coating,"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "confirming they function like the teeth"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "or claws that squids use to grasp prey."}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "But there's a twist. Because when Dr."}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Wood measured these hooks and compared"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "them to known squid species, he"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "discovered they were significantly"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "larger than hooks from any documented"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "giant squid. They weren't like the hooks"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "of either the giant squid or a colossal"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "squid. And after comparing them to all"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "established squid anatomy references,"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "the conclusion was that they came from"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "an unknown species. Another Navy"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "biophysicist reviewing the incident"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "named C. Scott Johnson stated that the"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "culprit was an extremely large species"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "still unknown to science. Now, based on"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "the size of these hooks and just anatomy"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "ratios, Dr. Wood estimated the"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "creature's possible size at 150 ft from"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "tentacle tip to tail. Folks, that is"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "humongous."}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "That's several times larger than any"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "known giant squid, which typically only"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "reach about 30 to 40 feet. That means"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "this thing was potentially three times"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "larger than the largest officially"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "recorded giant squid. In the formal"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "incident report, Dr. Wood concluded that"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "it was a giant squid, just far beyond"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "the size of any scientifically"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "documented specimen. This unknown"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "creature was unofficially dubbed the"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "Stein monster. After complete"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "replacement of the rubber coating on the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "sonar dome and more thorough testing of"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "all the components, the USS Stein was"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "certified fully operational and returned"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "to normal service. The Navy didn't"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "publicly announce details of the"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "incident at this time and information"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "remained primarily within naval and"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "scientific circles. It wasn't until"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "about 2 years later in 1980 that wider"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "public interest developed when"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "researchers for TV series Arthur C."}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "Clark's Mysterious World learned of the"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "incident and then obtained access to"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "footage of the damaged dome and the claw"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "hooks. The USS Stein incident was"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "featured in an episode about potential"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "modern evidence for sea monsters with"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "the presentation framing it as possible"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "scientific evidence that the legendary"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "Kraken might actually be real. There's"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "speculation that the squid was actually"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "smaller than what was estimated, though,"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "or that the damage done was from"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "multiple smaller squids. The reason for"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "the attack could have been due to the"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "squid mistaking the dome's acoustic"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "emissions with those of a sperm whale, a"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "squid's natural predator. But here's the"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "second twist. The hooks recovered from"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "this incident remain different from"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "those of any known specimen, and if"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "anything, stands as one of the most"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "credible modern accounts of a possible"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "encounter with an unknown marine"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "creature. On the morning of April 12th,"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "2021, a fisherman named Alexi Petrov"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "woke up while it was still dark outside."}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "He lived in a small village called Duet"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "on Sackalene Island, which is a place"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "that sits between Russia and Japan."}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "Alexuy had been fishing these waters his"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "entire life, just like his father and"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "his grandfather before him. And on this"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "particular morning, he knew something"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "special was happening with the tides"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "because the night before, all the older"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "men in the village had been talking"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "about how the next morning was going to"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "have one of the lowest tides anybody had"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "seen in years. The moon and sun were"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "lined up just right, and there were"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "these strong offshore winds pushing the"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "water away from the coast. For"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "fishermanmen like Alexi, extreme low"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "tides were basically like Christmas"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "morning because they could access parts"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "of the shore that were normally"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "underwater to collect shellfish. So he"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "went down to the shore just as the sun"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "was starting to come up. He had his"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "rubber boots on and was carrying this"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "big plastic bucket for whatever he might"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "find. And as he walked along the beach"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "toward his usual spot, he noticed"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "something strange in the distance. There"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "was a dark line stretching from the"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "shore out into the water. And initially"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "he thought maybe it was just some kind"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "of seaweed or debris that had washed up."}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "But he got closer to inspect it and he"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "just stared down at it because it didn't"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "make any sense. It looked like well it"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "looked like a road, a perfectly straight"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "road made of giant stone blocks"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "stretching from the beach directly out"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "into the ocean. He later told people"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "around him that at first he thought his"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "eyes were playing tricks on him. He"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "rubbed them like in a cartoon, but the"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "stone path was still there. He walked"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "right up to it and stepped onto it. And"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "the stones, folks, they were huge. Like"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "one was several feet across and they fit"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "together in this strange pattern where"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "they all had these straight edges"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "forming these polygon shapes. And the"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "surface was worn. It was really smooth,"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "like it had been polished. The craziest"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "part was how straight it was. It was"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "perfectly perpendicular from the shore"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "out into the ocean for what looked like"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "hundreds of feet before disappearing"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "under the water. It was wide enough that"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "three or four people could walk side by"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "side on it. And in all of his years"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "fishing this coast, he had never seen"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "anything like this. I mean, sure,"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "sometimes during really low tides, you"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "might see the tops of rocks or, you"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "know, something poking out of the water,"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "but nothing that looked so intentional."}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "So, he did what anybody else would do."}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "He pulled out his phone, started taking"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "pictures, but he knew this wouldn't last"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "long, that the water would be coming"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "back soon. So, he called his brother"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "Ivan, who lived just up the hill from"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "the beach, and he told Ivan to come down"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "right away and to bring more people. And"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "something weird was happening on the"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "beach. Ivan must have heard the urgency"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "because within like 15 minutes, he"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "showed up with five other people from"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "the village and they all had the same"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "reaction. Total shock. By this point,"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "word was spreading through Duet like"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "wildfire. People were running down to"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "the beach with their phones and cameras."}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "And you know, kids were skipping school."}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "The old babushkas who could barely walk"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "were hobbling down there with their"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "canes. Everyone wanted to see this"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "strange stone road that had somehow"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "appeared in the sea. One of the people"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "who came running down was a guy named"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "Victor who worked for the local cultural"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "society. Immediately he just started"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "taking measurements and detailed"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "photographs. And he was like, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "we need to document everything before"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "the tide comes back. And he was right"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "because they only had about an hour or"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "so before the water would start covering"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "the stones again. As people walked along"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "the stone path, they started coming up"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "with some interesting theories."}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "Initially, it was assumed that this was"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "the remains of an old pier or dock from"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "when this town was a bigger coal mining"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "port back in the early 1900s. That made"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "sense to a lot of people, but others"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "disagreed. The stones looked too"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "ancient, and why would anyone build a"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "pier with such massive stone blocks?"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "Now, by midm morning, the tide had"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "started to come back. People watched as"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "the water gradually reclaimed the stone"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "path, covering an inch by inch until it"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "was completely beneath the waves. By"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "noon, there was no sign it had ever been"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "there. But the photos and videos had"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "already begun circulating. By that"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "evening, people from neighboring"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "villages were showing up, hoping to"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "catch a glimpse of this mysterious road."}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "But they were too late. The extreme low"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "tide that had revealed it was a rare"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "event. A few days later, a historian"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "named Sergey Ponomev from the Sackalene"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "Regional Geography Society came to Duet"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "to investigate. Initially, he thought"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "the fisherman's pier theory might be"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "right. So, he went looking through old"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "photographs of the port from a 100 years"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "ago to see if they showed any kind of"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "stone causeway or pier where the path"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "had appeared. But when Sergey looked at"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "these old photos, he found that the"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "ships had actually anchored in a"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "completely different spot, not lined up"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "with where the stone road was. Hm. Maybe"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "there was some natural"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "explanation. Sergey contacted some"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "geologists and they pointed out"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "something interesting. The stone path"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "was actually lined up perfectly with"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "this geological feature called an"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "anticline."}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "basically a fold in the rock layers"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "where they've been pushed up into an"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "arch. And the geologists explain that"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "sometimes when rocks get folded like"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "that under tremendous pressure, they can"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "naturally fracture into these polygon"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "patterns. But not everyone was convinced"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "by the geological explanation. The"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "photos of the stone path had already"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "gone viral and not just in Russia but"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "all over the world. and people began"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "comparing them to other mysterious"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "underwater structures like the Yonauni"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "formations near Japan or the Bim anyni"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "road in the Bahamas. Some were even"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "talking about ancient lost civilizations"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "or aliens. Now that summer, local"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "authorities organized a proper"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "scientific investigation. They got"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "divers to go check out the parts of the"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "path that stayed underwater even during"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "low tides. and they sent drones to take"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "several aerial photos. They had"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "geologists collecting rock samples"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "because they really wanted to figure out"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "what it was. The divers confirmed that"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "the stone path actually continued"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "underwater for quite a distance, though"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "it was harder to see because it was"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "covered in seaweed and barnacles. They"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "couldn't find any obvious tool marks or"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "signs that humans had built it, but the"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "visibility wasn't great. The geological"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "team found more evidence supporting the"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "natural formation theory. They confirmed"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "that the stone path sat right on the"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "axis of this anticline fold and they"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "found similar rock layers in the nearby"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "cliffs that showed the same pattern."}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "According to them, what people were"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "seeing was basically the exposed spine"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "of this fold where the hardest rock had"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "resisted erosion while softer materials"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "around it had been washed away over the"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "years. But the archaeological team"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "wasn't ready to dismiss the possibility"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "that humans had been involved. They kept"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "pointing to how unusually straight and"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "uniform the path was. And folks, nature"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "doesn't usually work in straight lines."}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "Even today, scientists are still"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "studying the stone path of sackling."}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "They've done ground penetrating radar to"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "see what's under the sea floor and"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "they've analyzed the rock and they still"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "don't completely agree on whether it's"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "100% natural or if humans had some hand"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "in creating it. As of now, it's a"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "mystery. In the summer of"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "1975, a 23-year-old man named George"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "Martin sat at his desk in Puerto Rico,"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "carefully reading through a newspaper"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "article that had caught his attention."}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "George had always been fascinated by"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "unexplained phenomena, but this"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "particular story made him lean forward"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "with intense interest. It was about a"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "fisherman who claimed to have"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "encountered and killed a strange"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "non-human creature in a cave at Sero Las"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "Teas, a mountain peak not far from where"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "George lived. George had been born in"}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "New York City to Puerto Rican parents in"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "52. But when he was just 5 years old,"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "his family decided to return to their"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "homeland. And growing up on the island"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "gave George a deep connection to Puerto"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "Rico's geography, its communities, and"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "even its legends. And as a young man who"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "had been casually collecting newspaper"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "clippings about these kind of incidents"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "for years, he just felt drawn to this"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "case in a way that would ultimately"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "shape his entire life. The newspaper"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "article described how a fisherman named"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "Jose Chinoza and his friend had gone"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "night fishing when they discovered some"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "deep caves while exploring the mountain."}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "Curious, they decided to enter. And"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "inside they encountered a group of small"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "humanoid creatures that were clearly not"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "human. They had unusually thin bodies"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "with disproportionately large heads and"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "eyes. And one of these small creatures"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "suddenly grabbed Zia by the leg. And in"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "his panic, he grabbed a nearby stick and"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "struck it on the head, killing it"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "instantly."}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "Terrified, both men fled the cave, but"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "they made the decision to take the dead"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "creature's body with them as evidence."}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "When they got home, Zia had preserved"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "the body in a jar filled with"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "firmaldahhide. Days later, still"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "frightened by what had happened, Zia"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "reported the incident to the police."}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "Officer Alvaldo Santiago responded to"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "the unusual report and visited Zia's"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "home to investigate. When Santiago"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "examined the preserved creature in the"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "jar, Zia begged him to take it away."}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "Fearing retaliation from other"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "creatures, Officer Santiago had taken"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "possession of the specimen and unable to"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "keep such a discovery secret, told his"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "wife about it. It caught on and word of"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "these specimens spread throughout the"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "district until a prominent businessman"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "arranged for scientific examination."}, {"end": "00:20:06", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "Professor Kalixto Perez from the"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "University of Puerto Rico had examined"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:06", "text": "the remains and measured the creature at"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "just over 12 in long with an extremely"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "thin body and a disproportionately large"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "head. The conclusion was this verbatim."}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "In my opinion, this is something"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "extraterrestrial."}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "After reading the article several times,"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "George knew that if this was real, it"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "could validate so many other unexplained"}, {"end": "00:20:34", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "incidents that he'd been researching."}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "So, over the following few weeks, George"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:34", "text": "tracked down as many people as he could"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "that were connected to it. He spoke with"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "several fishermen who had heard about"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "this thing. He tried to find Officer"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "Santiago, and he even attempted to"}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "locate this professor to verify his"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "examination. And by the end of his"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "investigation into the Sero Los Tatas"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "creature, George had managed to see"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "photographs of the preserved being, and"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "what he saw convinced him that there was"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "something truly unusual happening. The"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "thing had exactly matched the"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "descriptions, including visible damage"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "to the skull, consistent with Zia's"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "account of striking it. George had"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "expected to find inconsistencies or"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "evidence of a hoax, but that's not at"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "all what he found had suggested. During"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "this time, George was also gaining a"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "reputation for taking these accounts"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "seriously, and more and more witnesses"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "began to seek him out. Now, in the"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "early8s, George heard about another"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "strange occurrence. This time in the Pon"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "City area, people had been reporting"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "unexplained underground vibrations that"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "suggested active drilling beneath the"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "surface. There were strange loud noises"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "and buzzing sounds that had persisted"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "for several consecutive nights,"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "disrupting sleep and daily activities"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "for many of the residents there. George"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "traveled to Pon to interview the"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "affected residents and what he found"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "surprised him. The locals had contacted"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "both local officials and state"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "authorities requesting investigation of"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "the disturbances, but they had received"}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "no response. Frustrated by the lack of"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "official action, they had organized"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "peaceful protest for several nights to"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "draw attention to the issue, but media"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "outlets had largely ignored both the"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "protest and the reported phenomena."}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "During this investigation, George"}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "interviewed an elderly resident who"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "described the vibrations as someone"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "drilling deep, deep under our feet. They"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "were genuinely frightened and confused"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "by what was happening to them, and no"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "one in authority was taking them"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "seriously. Fortunately, these strange"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "noises had gradually diminished over"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "time, and people had eventually returned"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "to their normal routines. But George"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "wasn't satisfied with just accepting"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "that the mystery had passed. He began"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "researching historical records for"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "similar cases in the region. And his"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "investigation revealed a group of"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "islands near the location had a very"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "interesting detail. The twist here is"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "that this group of islands had frequent"}, {"end": "00:23:23", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "UFO sightings and various reported"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "anomalies over many years. This led"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:23", "text": "George to begin developing theories"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "connecting the underground sounds to"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "possible hidden facilities. The Pon"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "incident became a pivotal case in"}, {"end": "00:23:40", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "establishing his career as Puerto Rico's"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "premier UFO investigator. Now, fast"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:40", "text": "forward again. By the early 1990s,"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "George had turned his attention to UFO"}, {"end": "00:23:51", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "sightings in El Yun Forest, a tropical"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "rainforest that sits in northeastern"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:51", "text": "Puerto Rico. There he conducted"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "extensive fieldwork, often under"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "difficult conditions, interviewing"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "numerous witnesses who reported strange"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "lights and craft over the area. And this"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "is where it gets really interesting."}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "George began to theorize that Elun might"}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "host a hidden extraterrestrial base and"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "that so far everything was connected to"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "this somehow, but he wasn't sure yet."}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "Jumping in time again to"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "1996, George made a significant advance"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "in his research. He discovered"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "photographs taken during NASA's STS80"}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "mission. The photos that were captured"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "showed apparent UFOs in the vicinity of"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "VA Casease Island. All of this just"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "continued to prove one major revolution"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "to George. But what he wouldn't say yet"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "now during this time he interviewed a"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "fisherman on VA island who reported a"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "strange empty spot in an underwater"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "canyon south of Vaase. The conclusion"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "from this was that there was something"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "massive below. What? No one knew for"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "sure. During the same time, another"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "fisherman, Alisio Ayala, told George"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "that while they were out south, they"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "spotted several glowing objects"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "submerged in the water. Now, this"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "occurred in the south depth zone near"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "where the Mannibou Lighthouse is"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "located. But folks, that's not all. Many"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "other residents shared similar accounts"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "of gray alien-like creatures emerging"}, {"end": "00:25:34", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "from and returning to the sea. George"}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "meticulously documented these"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:34", "text": "testimonies, noting correlations between"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "accounts and continued gathering"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "evidence near Elun."}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "However, it wasn't until the year 2000"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "that George would publish all of this"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "research on the Sero Lost Tatas creature"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "from years past, including the"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "documented details and the photographs"}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "in a magazine. But the strangest part is"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "that shortly after it was published, the"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "remains of the creature mysteriously"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "vanished. Finally, jumping ahead to"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "2012, George made what he considered his"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "most significant discovery while"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "reviewing geographic and oceanographic"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "data. He identified what appeared to be"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "mysterious structures beneath the waters"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "near Puerto Rico, located south of Pon"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "and extending east towards Viaase"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "Island. One structure appeared as a very"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "flat straight line across the floor"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "while another resembled a square or"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "rectangular structure with very defined"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "angles. The artificial appearing nature"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "of these formations contradicted natural"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "geological explanations and George began"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "asking the right questions. Is this a"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "secret US military base or an alien"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "submarine base? He however leaned on the"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "side of it being a military base and"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "that these underwater tunnels were a"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "secret project developed by the"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "Navy. Interestingly, he speculated that"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "due to a base closure that happened in"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "the year 2000, the Navy has since"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "shifted their efforts to a giant base"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "deep in the ocean. Now, here's the major"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "twist. After further analysis, George"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "came to his final conclusion on"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "everything that's been happening. This"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "was the work of non-human entities"}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "expanding or maintaining their"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "underwater base. First, these structures"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "were absolutely enormous, stretching for"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "miles across the ocean floor. Secondly,"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "they were located at depths that would"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "crush any known human submarine"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "technology. And third, building"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "something this massive would require"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "technological capabilities far beyond"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "what even the most advanced military"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "black projects could achieve. Couple"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "that with the creature in the jar from"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "Sarah Lasatus, the vibrations in her"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "pawns, the countless UFO sightings over"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "Elun, the testimonies from the fishermen"}, {"end": "00:28:09", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "who'd seen these glowing objects"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "entering and exiting the water, the"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:09", "text": "reports of gray beings emerging from the"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "sea. Folks, it's all connected. Puerto"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "Rico wasn't just experiencing random"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "unexplained phenomena. It was a hub of"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "non-human activity centered around these"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "massive underwater structures. But of"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "course, you know, this is all just"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "speculation. And as of today, these"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "things are still being reported by"}, {"end": "00:28:37", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "witnesses all over the area."}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "Unfortunately, all of it remains a"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:37", "text": "mystery. And because you guys have made"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "it this far into the episode, I want you"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "to all comment below down in the deep"}, {"end": "00:28:48", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "blue. So that way I know who made it to"}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "the end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "enjoy stories like this where we deep"}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "dive into strange cases of the"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"end": "00:28:58", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "you waiting for? Hit that like and"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:58", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"end": "00:29:04", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "open mind, and I'll see you all in the"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:04", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:01", "text": "Far from the hustle and bustle of big"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "cities, out past the safety of your"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "front porch, something watches us with"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "hollow eyes. Strange intruders hovering"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "in quiet rice fields across rural"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "Thailand, disappearing in a flash when"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "noticed, a dark presence with no name,"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "observing a young girl as she walks"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "through the countryside, and hitchhikers"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "that no sane driver would stop for"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "thumbming rides from truckers on lonely"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "highways. This episode will take you"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "through three astonishing cases that"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "defy logic and prove that unknown"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "intelligences aren't just real, they're"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "watching us from the fields. I'm Josh"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "Dinocchio. This is what lurks beneath."}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "You won't want to miss this one. On the"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "morning of August 31st, 2005, a"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "51-year-old farmer named Sang Bunuchas"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "woke up earlier than usual in his small"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "home in Wei Nam Rock, Thailand. This"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "remote village, which is located in"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "Chaiang Province, is about 488 miles"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "north of Bangkok. The region is famous"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "for its breathtaking beauty. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "there's lush forest, rolling hills, rice"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "fields that just seem to stretch on into"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "the horizon forever. It truly is"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "breathtaking. Most days, Sang was"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "grateful for the isolation, but today he"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "would experience something that even now"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "he still can't explain. From the moment"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "he opened his eyes, something felt off."}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "He could just feel it inside of him, and"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "he couldn't quite put his finger on it."}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "There was just this vague sense of just"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "something in the air that wasn't right."}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "As he stepped outside his home at around"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "7:45 to begin his daily work, he noticed"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "that the unusual commotion had disturbed"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "the usual peacefulness of his"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "surroundings. Several of his neighbors"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "were gathered at the edge of a rice"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "field owned by an elderly villager named"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "T Kitkangban who was 69 years old. They"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "were pointing at something in the field"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "and talking excitedly among themselves."}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "Confused and curious, so Wang made his"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "way over to the growing crowd wondering"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "what's going on. And as he did, this"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "woman from his village turned to him"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "with these wide eyes and she was out of"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "breath, very excited. And she's telling"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "him that she had first seen it over an"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "hour earlier. And in the dim dawn of"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "light, she had thought that she was"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "imagining things, but whatever it was"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "was still out there. Look. Sang"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "following her finger to where she was"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "pointing out to the rice field. And what"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "he saw made him freeze because at first"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "he thought it was just standing out"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "there, but he instantly realized that it"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "was actually hovering about 2 and 1/2 ft"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "above the ground. Folks, this wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "silver flying disc. It wasn't a UFO. It"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "wasn't a black pyramid. It was truly"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "bizarre. And this isn't even the"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "strangest part. What he saw, well, it"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "was unlike anything he'd ever seen. It"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "was small, only a little over 2 feet"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "tall and bright yellow in color. And it"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "had a disproportionately large head with"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "enormous ears protruding from either"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "side. and its eyes were these deep blood"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "red orbs that just seemed to glow"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "unnaturally. And he realized that he's"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "looking at a being, but it didn't have"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "arms. And it was just this small torso"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "that kind of tapered down to pointed"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "feet that didn't quite touch the ground."}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "And from what he could tell, it had a"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "very tiny little mouth. And it appeared"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "to be fixed in this kind of permanent"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "grimace. and he ended up standing there"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "for a full half hour just transfixed on"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "this thing until around 8:30 in the"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "morning. This being slowly turned its"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "oversized head and appeared to nod at"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "the gathering crowd as if acknowledging"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "their presence. And the movement was so"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "deliberate and distinctly unnatural that"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "it clearly chilled Sang. These people"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "weren't just watching, they were being"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "watched. And Sang found himself asking"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "along with everybody else there, \"What"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "is this thing?\" One of the other men"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "there in the crowd, a man in his 30s,"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "said that no one had been able to figure"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "it out. It had just been hovering out"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "above the rice field for about 2 hours"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "now, and he said that he had watched it"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "long enough to see it nod its head a few"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "times, but it hadn't made a peep all"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "morning. Now, at this point, more and"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "more villagers were arriving at the"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "scene, drawn by the news of the strange"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "visitor, which by this point had spread"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "like wildfire. I mean, everybody knew"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "about it. And as the morning"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "continuously progressed, more than 10"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "members found themselves gathered at the"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "edge of the rice field, all waiting to"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "catch a glimpse of what they would"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "eventually call the Chang Ry scarecrow."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "Some of the villagers were terrified,"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "but others were fascinated, but all were"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "united in astonishment at what they were"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "seeing. Nothing much more occurred for"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "hours, and no one really found the"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "courage to venture out into the field."}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "And so, finally, about 10:30 that"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "morning, something happened. As"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "everybody watched, the yellow entity"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "suddenly began to morph and change. And"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "it didn't make any sense. Everyone"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "agreed because the only way to describe"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "was that the being appeared to stretch"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "and then its form was elongating upward"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "and as it grew taller its bright yellow"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "color gradually darkened until it was"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "completely black. A murmur of excitement"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "within the crowd and then in one final"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "bizarre display, the now black thing"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "took off, shooting upward and vanishing"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "for good. Now, some of the witnesses"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "later would claim that it disappeared"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "into what looked like a bright orb of"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "light, while others say that it just was"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "gone entirely. Either way, the village"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "was completely stunned for several"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "moments afterwards. What's really"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "interesting is that several people had"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "reported seeing what they described as a"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "floating fire near the same field in the"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "late hours of August 30th. In the"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "excitement of the morning events, no one"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "had made the connection until now, but"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "everyone agreed that it must have"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "something to do with this tiny scarecrow"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "like being that appeared mere hours"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "later. Within a matter of days, news of"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "the strange sighting in Wayi Namrock had"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "spread far beyond the boundaries of the"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "village. You had an investigator by the"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "name Kitty Cassm Retanakosa who arrived"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "to interview the witnesses and examine"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "the area where the intruder had been"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "seen floating in the field. His"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "investigation didn't yield any physical"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "evidence or any logic to explain what"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "the villagers had reported. The story"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "quickly caught the attention of Thai"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "television networks, which reported on"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "the incident using the term John Bin,"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "which translates to flying saucer in"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "English. A UFO investigator by the name"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "of Terry Culvin posted about the"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "incident online on September 10th,"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "bringing international attention to the"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "strange occurrence. And before they knew"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "it, with intense media coverage, at"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "least of this event, there was a sudden"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "influx of visitors. You had around 100"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "curious outsiders began arriving each"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "day, hoping to catch a glimpse of"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "whatever this thing was, or simply to"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "stand in the place where it had"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "appeared. The tiny town, which had never"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "been designed to handle traffic like"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "this, began to experience significant"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "problems. The roads leading to the rice"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "field rapidly deteriorated under the"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "constant stream of vehicles and required"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "repairs. After a while, the situation"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "became so chaotic that law enforcement"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "was forced to dispatch officers to the"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "area just to manage the crowds to"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "maintain order. Meanwhile, the mayor,"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "who was recognizing both the challenges"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "and opportunities presented by this,"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "requested that cameras be installed in"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the field where the sighting had taken"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "place. and he had hoped to capture"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "evidence of any future appearances."}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "Well, about 10 days after the initial"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "sighting, a man from a nearby village"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "came forward with what he believed might"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "be an explanation. In an interview with"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "a community radio station on September"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "11th, 2005, Tong Muan Pochello claimed"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "that he was responsible. You see,"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "earlier in August, he had found a helium"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "filled rubber doll that he had then used"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "as a scarecrow in his fields. The doll,"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "according to his description, was"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "greenish orange in color and had both"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "arms and legs but no ears. He went on to"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "explain that on August 29th, just 2 days"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "before the sighting, a powerful storm"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "had swept through and carried away his"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "makeshift scarecrow. He suggested that"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "what the villagers had seen might have"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "been his lost doll, though he couldn't"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "explain how it would have changed color"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "or stretched or nodded or seemingly"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "moved on its own or of course taken off"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "into the sky in a burst of light. As you"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "might imagine, none of these"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "discrepancies were lost on the original"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "witnesses because when they were shown a"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "photograph of the type of doll that he"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "had used and described, they all"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "unanimously denied that that was what"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "they had seen. The doll in the photo had"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "arms and legs and lacked the distinctive"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "large ears that had been such a"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "prominent feature of what they had saw."}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "And in the weeks and months that came"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "afterwards, all the excitement"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "eventually died down. As for what"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "exactly appeared in the rice field that"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "August morning, whether it was an"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "extraterrestrial being, an"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "interdimensional traveler, a"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "manifestation of something else"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "entirely, or simply a misidentified"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "conventional phenomenon, the mystery of"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "the Changai scarecrow remains unsolved."}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "And they aren't alone, because nearly 80"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "years earlier and over 5,000 mi away, a"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "witness in the United Kingdom saw"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "something similar. On December 1st,"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "1968, a woman named Pauline Burgerer sat"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "down at her kitchen table in Leicester,"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "England, and began writing about"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "something strange that had happened to"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "her when she was a child. This wasn't"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "something she talked about much anymore"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "because whenever she did, people would"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "kind of laugh it off and tell her that"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "she must have imagined it. But Paulie"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "knew that what she saw was real. And"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "now, after all these years, she finally"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "felt like she had the proof. You see,"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "the incident that Pauline was writing"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "about had happened about 40 years"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "earlier around 1928 when she was just 6"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "years old. Back then, one of her"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "favorite things to do was to go on walks"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "with her dad in the fields along Ay Lane"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "in Leicester. For little Pauline, these"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "walks weren't just walks, they were"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "adventures. And she loved exploring the"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "countryside with her father, listening"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "to him tell stories, and just enjoying"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "being in the outdoors together. And on"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "this day, she and her dad had set out"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "for one of their regular walks. The"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "weather was perfect with just a light"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "breeze, and she had brought along a book"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "she was reading, thinking she might be"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "able to find a nice spot to sit and read"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "for a bit if they took a break during"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "their walk. Well, as they walked through"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "the fields, Paulie noticed that her dad"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "was starting to seem pretty tired. He'd"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "been working very hard that week, and"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "the nice weather was making him a bit"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "drowsy. Now, about halfway through their"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "usual route, he suggested that they take"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "a break. So, he found a comfortable spot"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "in the grass across from one of the"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "fields and lay down, telling Pauline he"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "was just going to close his eyes for a"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "few minutes. And, you know, Pauline was"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "fine with this. So, of course, she"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "planned for it. She sat down nearby,"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "opened her book, perfectly content to"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "read while her dad took a nap. Well, it"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "didn't take long before her dad was"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "snoring, and she could hear his steady"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "breathing as she sat there reading. And"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "every once in a while she'd look up to"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "watch butterflies or just enjoy the"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "scenery. I mean, it was peaceful and"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "quiet and there was just the sound of"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "birds and, you know, rustling of pages"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "as she read. And after reading for a"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "while, she looked up again to give her"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "eyes a rest. And that's when she noticed"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "something strange in the field ahead of"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "her. Maybe about 100 yards in the"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "distance. She spotted a strange figure"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "standing in the field. It was completely"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "motionless. She stared at it trying to"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "understand what this was was that the"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "figure had a large bulbous head and a"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "pair of long arms hanging down at its"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "sides. Now given where she was, her"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "first thought was that it must be a"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "scarecrow. I mean, that would make"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "sense. Farmers put scarecrows in their"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "fields all the time to keep the birds"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "away. But as she continued to examine"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "it, there's just something that felt so"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "off about it. It didn't really look like"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "any scarecrow that she'd ever seen. and"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "its outline was too smooth and solid."}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "The way that it stood was not right"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "either. And so, you know, she's sitting"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "there reading through her book and she"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "keeps looking up at it thinking like, I"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "don't know this this I don't feel good"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "about it. And then she started to notice"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "more things that really really bothered"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "her. Next to this figure was what"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "appeared to be some kind of small"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "structure or hut. And she was confused"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "because she was sure that she would have"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "noticed something like that when she"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "first sat down, but she was absolutely"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "certain that this structure had not been"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "there earlier. Now, when they had first"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "walked into the field, she had a clear"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "view of that entire area, and there"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "definitely hadn't been any building or"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "structures there. It had somehow"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "appeared while she was reading her book."}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "And this wasn't a normal looking"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "building either. It wasn't like a"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "rectangular farm building or shed that"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "she was used to seeing. It was round and"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "shaped almost like a globe or a large"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "ball and seemed to be sitting on legs"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "like a strange pod. She turned to her"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "dad who was still asleep on the grass"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "and she reached out, shook his arm, and"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "she's whispering to him, \"Wake up.\" But"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "her dad didn't respond. He just, you"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "know, kind of cracked his eyes and"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "mumbled something and kept on sleeping."}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "And so she starts to shake him harder."}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "And she didn't whisper quietly this"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "time. She's starting to raise her voice"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "and yell. And finally his eyes open and"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "he looks confused for a moment and then"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "you know he sits up he's rubbing his"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "face and eyes and of course you know"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "he's asking her what's the matter and"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "instantly she's like look look over"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "there what is that thing explaining to"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "him that there's some strange figure or"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "person over there and then she's asking"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "him if he remembered seeing the building"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "over there because it wasn't there"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "prior. Pauline's dad looked in the"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "direction that she was pointing,"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "squinting. And after a moment, he looked"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "confused because he didn't see anything."}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "It was just the field. And so Pauline"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "looked back. To her complete shock, both"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "the figure and the globe-shaped hut had"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "completely vanished, just like it had"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "been when they arrived. It was as if"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "they had never been there at all. Now"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "more confused and scared, the girl, who"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "was now even more confused and scared,"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "insisted that she had just seen what she"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "had described. There had been a black"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "figure with a big head and long arms,"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "and next to it was a round hut that"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "wasn't there before. But Pauline's dad"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "just smiled and patted her on the"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "shoulder. She must have been dreaming,"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "he said. Or it was her imagination"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "because there was nothing to be seen."}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "Well, no matter how much she insisted"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "that she had to be wide awake and had"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "definitely seen something, her dad was"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "simply skeptical. She couldn't believe"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "what it was that she had saw. And"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "unfortunately for her, it almost became"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "a sort of family joke, something that"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "would come up at family gatherings and"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "they would mock her and just laugh at"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "her. Well, decades passed and she grew"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "up, got married, and had kids of her"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "own. And the strange incident from her"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "childhood remained this very vivid,"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "burning memory that she rarely if ever"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "talked about. But one day in"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "1968, her own son showed her a magazine"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "because he was interested in all sorts"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "of things, including unexplained"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "mysteries. And the magazine was the"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "latest issue of Flying Saucer Review."}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "And he encouraged her to read it. He's"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "like, \"Mom, check this out. This is"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "really interesting.\" And so she's"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "reading it, you know, not really"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "expecting much. But later that evening,"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "as she flipped through the pages, she"}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "saw something. There in an article about"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "a separate UFO sighting were images that"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "looked exactly like what she had seen"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "all those years ago in the field. One"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "image showed black figures about 5t tall"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "with large heads and long strange arms."}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "And the description mentioned witnesses"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "seeing these entities near what they"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "believed to be a spacecraft. And there"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "was an illustration of what some"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "described as a landing craft, which is a"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "spherical object that sat on legike"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "supports. The magazine simply called it"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "a globe on legs, which was exactly what"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "she had been trying to describe since"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "she was six. It was an incredible moment"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "of validation, and all these years, she"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "had begun to doubt her own memory,"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "wondering if just perhaps her dad had"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "been right after all. But now with the"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "evidence that her experience wasn't"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "unique or imagined, she truly believed"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "whatever she had seen that summer day in"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "the field, whether it was visitors from"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "another world or something else, it had"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "been real. So that evening, December"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "1st, 1968, Pauline sat down, wrote out"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "her story, described in detail what she"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "had seen as a six-year-old girl in that"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "field along Any Lane. She included how"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "the images in the Flying Sauce review"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "had finally confirmed what she had been"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "telling her family for decades. For the"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "first time, she felt like maybe people"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "would finally believe her story."}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "Whatever she saw that day left such an"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "impression on her that even years later,"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "40 years later, she could remember every"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "detail as clearly as if it had happened"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "yesterday. Weird scarecrows don't just"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "pop up in fields. They also appear on"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "the open road. On the afternoon of"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "February 27th, 1998, a truck driver who"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "went by the CB handle Gunslinger was"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "driving his rig down Interstate 255 in"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "Illinois. It was a normal day for him."}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "Nothing strange at all. But as he"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "approached the junction where I 255"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "meets I270, there was something strange"}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "on the side of the road that made him"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "slow down. There was a figure and it was"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "just still, not moving. Initially, he"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "assumed it was a statue or something"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "that somebody had put up. But as his"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "truck got closer, it suddenly turned its"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "head and looked right at him. And that's"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "when he got a really good look at it,"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "and it was strange. It was huge,"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "standing well over 6 feet, maybe even 7"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "ft tall, long, matted hair, covering its"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "face and arms. But you want to know what"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "really stood out to him? This thing had"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "what looked like a peg leg just below"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "its right knee. Not only that, but it"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "had on these clothes that were really"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "odd, too. All torn up and looking very"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "old-fashioned, like a scarecrow. So, for"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "a second, he wondered if what he was"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "seeing wasn't some kind of a joke or"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "prank. But when it moved, turning its"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "head to look at him, he knew that what"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "he was seeing wasn't fake. Whatever it"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "was, it was real, but it wasn't normal."}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "The encounter freaked him out so much"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "that when he stopped for his break, the"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "first thing he did was to record it in"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "his log book. In the margin, he simply"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "wrote, \"Strange, wildlooking man seen.\""}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "And on the back, he added, \"This thing"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "was big, hairy, and almost looked fake"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "until it moved.\" He was very sure this"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "was, in his words, no ordinary"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "hitchhiking man. Now, for almost 2"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "years, he just told his story to other"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "truckers on the CB radio or over some"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "coffee at the truck stop. But on March"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "15th, 2000, another truck driver had a"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "similar experience. A man by the name of"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "Brad Royalty was driving on Interstate"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "44 near Big Cabin, Oklahoma, which is"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "hundreds of miles away from where the"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "other man had his encounter. And as Brad"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "was driving, he too spotted what he"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "first thought was just a homeless person"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "standing by the road. And when he got"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "closer, he realized this wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "regular person. The figure that Brad saw"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "was very tall and hairy, and it too had"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "a wooden leg. Additionally, it didn't"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "act like a normal person. It didn't wave"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "or try to get anyone's attention. It"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "just stood there and stared at him as he"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "drove past. Unlike the other guy, Brad"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "gave this thing a name. And when he told"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "other people about it, he later called"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "it the peglegged road troll. And as"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "funny as all this might sound, this"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "wasn't the only sighting of this thing."}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "Because months later, in the middle of"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "the summer of 2000, a husband and wife"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "trucking team had their own run-in with"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "what seemed to be the same thing. They"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "were driving on Interstate 70 near"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "Booneville, Missouri, which means that"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "whatever this thing is had been spotted"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "in at least three different states."}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "Another trucker named Doug later said"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "that what was so weird was that the"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "figure wasn't doing anything that made"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "sense. It wasn't trying to hitchhike."}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "There weren't any broken down vehicles"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "nearby. It was just standing there"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "watching traffic go by. Doug described"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "it as looking like a huge scarecrow, but"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "he seems to have seen exactly what"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "gunslinger and Bradley saw because just"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "like the other sightings, it had an"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "artificial leg and was covered in lots"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "of hair. But the really telling thing"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "was how Doug's wife reacted. I mean, she"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "was terrified and refused to talk about"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "it much. Even years later, all she would"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "say about it was, \"It scared me to"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "death.\" And to this day, she refuses to"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "even drive through Booneville, Missouri."}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "and she says that she'd rather add two"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "hours to any trip than take that stretch"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "of Interstate 70 again. Well, folks,"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "later that year, a paranormal researcher"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "named Jerry Coleman heard about these"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "weird highway sightings, and of course,"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "he decided to look into it, figuring"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "there had to have been something to it."}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "So, he tracked down the man who called"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "himself Gunslinger and interviewed him"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "about what he had seen back in '98. And"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "this witness still had his log book from"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "that day with the notes that he had"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "written about this strange experience."}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "Now, by this point, Coleman knew about"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "the other similar sightings across three"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "different states. But what made it so"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "strange was how similar they all were."}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "Even though they happened to different"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "people in different places, over about 2"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "and 1/2 years, truck drivers in"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "Illinois, Oklahoma, and Missouri all"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "reported seeing basically the same"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "thing. a really tall figure covered in"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "hair, wearing weird tattered clothing,"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "and having a wooden leg. Whether it was"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "a troll or a scarecrow entity like the"}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "beings seen in Thailand or England is"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "really anyone's guess. Now, it's hard to"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "ignore how similar these stories are."}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "Still silent figures with creepy,"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "unnatural features showing up in fields"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "or by the side of the road and then just"}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "vanishing. They're always witnessed by"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "ordinary people in quiet, mundane"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "moments. So, are these just tricks of"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "the light, hallucinations, or carefully"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "crafted hoaxes, or do they hint at"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "something far more mysterious? If these"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "are scarecrows, then what are they"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "guarding? And because you guys made it"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "this far into the episode, I want you to"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "all comment below peg leg, so that way I"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "know who made it to the end and who"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy this kind"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "of content where we deep dive into"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "strange cases of the mysterious and"}, {"end": "00:23:08", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:08", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "this. Never forget, I love you all. Keep"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "an open mind and I'll see you all in the"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Deep in the Aasha Mountains of Oklahoma,"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "something learned that humans make easy"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "prey. Not to hunt, but to steal from, a"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "family's freezer becomes a feeding"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "ground for beings that grow increasingly"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "aggressive when confronted. In this"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "episode, I'm going to take you through a"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "terrifying case that proves some things"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "in the woods have learned we're the best"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "source of food, and they're not afraid"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "to take it. I'm Josh Dinocchio. This is"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "what lurks beneath. You won't want to"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "miss this one. At around 11:30 p.m. on a"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "warm summer night in 1998, a 34 year old"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "man named Tim stood in the doorway of"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "his small shed behind his house in rural"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "Oklahoma, shining his flashlight into"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "the chest freezer where he kept his"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "family's deer meat. He was wearing his"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "typical evening attire, an old t-shirt,"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "basketball shorts, and the worn work"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "boots he never bothered to take off,"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "even inside the house. The shed wasn't"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "much to look at. It was just a simple"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "wooden structure about 50 feet from the"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "back door with a dirt floor and a single"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "bare bulb hanging from the ceiling that"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "had burned out months ago. Tim had been"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "meaning to replace it, but out here in"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "the Caamichi Mountains, miles from the"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "nearest town of Honabe, it just wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "priority. Tim was doing what he did most"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "nights, grabbing a package of venison"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "for tomorrow's dinner. His wife liked to"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "thaw it overnight in the fridge, and"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "she'd specifically asked him to get the"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "ground deer meat because she was"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "planning to make spaghetti for the kids."}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "Now, Hon, which is where Tim and his"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "family lived, or at least near where"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "they lived, wasn't really even a town."}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "It was what they call an unincorporated"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "community in Laflur County. Basically,"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "just a loose collection of properties"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "scattered through the mountains on the"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "edge of the Oashita National Forest. The"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "whole area was so rural that Tim's"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "nearest neighbor was well over 2 mi"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "away. And that was as the crow flies. I"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "mean, by road, it was more like 4 miles"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "of just winding mountain paths. And"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "Tim's family, which consisted of his"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "wife, their three kids, and Tim's"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "youngest brother, Michael, who lived"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "with them, they all owned this 30 acre"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "property that Tim's father had bought"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "back in the 70s. The property itself was"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "mostly forested with maybe 5 acres"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "cleared around the house. And it"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "actually backed right up to thousands of"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "acres of forest. I mean, you could just"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "walk right out the back door and hike"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "for days without seeing another soul."}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Even though Tim was a mechanic by trade,"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "his real passion was hunting. And every"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "fall, you know, deer season, he and his"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "brother Michael would just go out in the"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "woods and spend weeks. And you know,"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "they tag enough deer to keep the family"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "fed with venison for the entire year,"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "which is why they had this big chest"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "freezer in the shed so they could store"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "the meat. So Tim's standing there with"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "his flashlight, you know, moving around"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "in the freezer looking for the ground"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "meat that his wife wanted. And the"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "freezer at this point, mind you, this is"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "important, was very well stocked. They'd"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "had a great season the previous fall, so"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "there was plenty of meat. But as he's"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "moving things around, something catches"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "his attention. The freezer just seemed"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "less full than it should be. Now, even"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "though Tim didn't exactly keep a"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "detailed inventory, he figured maybe his"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "wife had been using more meat than"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "usual. Or maybe he just wasn't"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "remembering right how much they'd"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "actually put in there. But regardless,"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "something about it nagged at him just a"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "little bit. So, shrugging his shoulders,"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "he grabbed the package, closed the"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "freezer, and headed back to the house."}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "Over the following weeks, Tim would"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "notice the same thing happening. He'd go"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "out to the freezer and it would seem"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "like there was just less meat than there"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "should be. And he started to keep track"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "because, you know, this was strange."}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "What they were eating wasn't equating to"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "how much was vanishing. They were"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "definitely losing meat. And so, not"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "really sure who was doing this, he"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "decided to talk to his wife about it."}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "and she insisted that she wasn't using"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "any extra. He also asked his brother who"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "basically said the same thing. And he"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "did ask his children, but you know, they"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "all denied taking anything. which means"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "that the only logical explanation was"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "that somebody was stealing from them."}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "But that didn't really make a lot of"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "sense either because again, their"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "nearest neighbor was miles away and"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "you'd have to know the meat was there in"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "the first place and then drive down"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "their long private driveway, park, walk"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "to the shed, help yourself, you guys"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "know. Now, while it was possible, it"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "just didn't seem very likely. And the"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "other thing is that the shed was never"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "broken into despite there being a"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "padlock on the door. And Tim always"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "found it locked just like he loved it."}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "But somebody was definitely getting in"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "there. So they were either picking the"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "lock or something. But again, there was"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "no signs of forced entry and there's no"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "damage to the shed at all. And so Tim"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "began to consider that maybe there were"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "animals somehow getting in. Bears were"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "common in the area and they were"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "certainly smart enough and strong enough"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "to break into a shed if they smelled"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "food. But they would leave evidence"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "behind like claw marks or broken boards,"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "but there was none of that. So, the"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "first thing that Tim tried was locking"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "the padlock with a different key and"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "hiding the key in a new spot. He figured"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "if someone had somehow gotten a copy,"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "this would stop them. But days went by"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "and the meat kept disappearing. And this"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "went on for months, mind you, all the"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "way through the fall of 1998 and into"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "1999. Packages of venison would just"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "vanish from the freezer. Never all at"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "once, though. I mean, it was just a"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "package here and a package there. Tim"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "even started marking them with a marker,"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "keeping an inventory. And sure enough,"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "he'd come out and find that three or"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "four he'd marked were now just gone. Tim"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "was growing increasingly frustrated and"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "rightfully so because he couldn't figure"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "out what was happening and who this"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "venison thief was. Not to mention, it"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "was a little creepy because whoever was"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "doing this was incredibly careful. We've"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "got our field researcher, Frank,"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "checking out some recent activity near"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "the original sighting location. Uh"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "Frank, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Um"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "I just found something really"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "interesting. There's a phone here and it"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "still has signal. Wait a minute. It's"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "showing full bars on the nation's"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "largest 5G network. That's actually"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "perfect timing because Nitble offers"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "premium wireless starting at $15 a"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "month."}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "Frank. Oh no. Oh no. They're here. Josh,"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "it knows I switched to Mint Mobile. It"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "doesn't like that switching was"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "ridiculously easy and that I did it all"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "align in minutes with East. You know, no"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "stores, no salespeople, no hassle."}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "It's mad that Mint Mobile has unlimited"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "talk and text and free calling to"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "Mexico, Canada, and the UK. Frank,"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "what's going on? It's right behind me."}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "Well, just remember with Midmo Mobile,"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "you get to choose your data. 5 GB, 15"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "GB, 20 GB, or unlimited. There's no"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "overpaying for features you don't need."}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "Ah,"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "Frank."}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "Frank."}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "Yes, I I I know he's dead. And that"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "wasn't supposed to happen. Okay, look."}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "We We have a much bigger problem."}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Insurance is going to be Oh."}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "Um, hey,"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "Frank's F. Frank's fine. He's just um"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "look, new customers can get their"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "premium wireless plans that start at 15"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "bucks a month at the link in the"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "description below. I mean, Frank didn't"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "die. He's"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "he's on vacation with great cell"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "coverage. And unfortunately,"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "I'm probably going to need a great"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "attorney. But then in early 1999, things"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "began to escalate. It started with"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "noises at night and Tim and his family"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "would be sitting out in the living room"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "watching TV and they'd hear something"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "outside. It wasn't just the normal"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "sounds of animals like they were used"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "to. They would hear these strange,"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "heavy, deliberate footsteps walking"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "around the outside of the house. And the"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "first time, Tim grabbed his flashlight"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "and his rifle and he went outside to"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "look because he thought there was an"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "intruder. But after doing a thorough"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "scan of the perimeter, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "house, the porch, the shed, he couldn't"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "find anyone or anything. And so he just"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "figured it was a false alarm. Maybe it"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "was a bear. But a few nights later, it"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "happened again. And again, all doing the"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "same thing. These heavy footsteps kind"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "of like just circling the house. And"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "sometimes they'd hear what sounded like"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "someone on the porch. I mean, the wooden"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "boards would cak under the weight. Tim's"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "wife was starting to get really scared."}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "Now, she'd actually grown up in town,"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "and while she'd gotten used to living"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "out in the country, this was different."}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "I mean, this felt very threatening. So,"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "she wanted Tim to call the police, but"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "naturally, Tim was hesitant. What was he"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "going to tell them? That someone's"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "stealing their deer meat and walking"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "around their house at night, but they"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "can never catch them or find any"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "evidence? The sheriff's department was"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "already stretched thin, covering the"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "entire county. They weren't going to"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "post someone at his house over some"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "missing venison and footstep sounds. So"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "Tim just decided to handle it all"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "himself. And he started staying up late,"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "sitting by the window with his rifle,"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "just waiting for something to happen."}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "And Michael would take shifts with him."}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "They were determined to catch whoever"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "was doing this. But here's the strange"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "thing. Whenever they were watching,"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "nothing happened. It was like whoever it"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "was knew they were waiting and stayed"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "away. But as soon as they'd give up and"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "go to bed, the noises would start again."}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "And this pattern continued through the"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "spring and into the summer of 1999. The"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "family was on edge constantly. The kids"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "were having trouble sleeping, and Tim's"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "wife was just jumpy and nervous all the"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "time, and the meat was still vanishing"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "from the freezer. Fast forward to the"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "fall, and things took an even darker"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "turn. Tim came home from work one day to"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "find his wife standing in their bedroom"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "staring at the window. And the window"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "frame, not the glass, but the actual"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "wooden frame, had been pulled partially"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "out of the wall, like something had"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "grabbed it and just yanked it with"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "incredible force. The wood was"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "splintered. I mean, there were deep"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "gouges in the frame, like claw marks,"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "and the whole thing was barely hanging"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "on. That same week, they woke up one"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "morning to find that their back door, a"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "solid wood door with the dead bolts, had"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "been damaged. The doorork knob was"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "twisted, like someone had grabbed it and"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "wrenched it with enormous force. The"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "metal was actually deformed. Tim had to"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "replace the entire door handle. Now, at"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "this point, Tim's wife had had enough."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "She packed up the kids, went to stay"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "with her sister in town, and she simply"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "told Tim that she wasn't coming back"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "until he got this figured out and made"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "it stop. So now it was just Tim and"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "Michael at the house. Two brothers in"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "their 30s, both very experienced, both"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "armed, determined to solve this mystery."}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "And they started taking a more"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "aggressive approach. They put up motion"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "sensor lights around the house. They"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "spread flour on the ground around the"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "shed and the porches, figuring whatever"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "was coming around would leave"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "footprints. And they even borrowed a"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "couple of hunting dogs from a friend,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "thinking that these dogs would alert"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "them if anything approached. But nothing"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "worked the way they expected. The motion"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "lights would go off, but by the time Tim"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "or Michael got outside, there was"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "nothing. The flower would show some"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "disturbances, but not clear prints. It"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "was just areas where it looked like"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "something large had moved through. The"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "dogs would just start whining and"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "cowering at night, refusing to go"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "outside, sometimes urinating on"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "themselves in fear. Now, I need to take"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "a moment here to explain something about"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "Tim and Michael. These men were not"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "easily frightened. They'd grown up in"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "the mountains. They'd hunted since they"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "were kids. You know, they've been around"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "bears and mountain lions and boar. And"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "they knew how to handle themselves. But"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "whatever was coming around was unlike"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "anything they dealt with and it was"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "getting bolder. Which brings us to that"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "night in mid January of 2000. That would"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "change everything. It was about 2:00 in"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "the morning and Tim was asleep in his"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "bedroom. Michael was asleep down the"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "hall. Tim woke up to the sound of the"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "dogs going absolutely berserk outside."}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "They weren't barking or anything, but"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "they were like going off. Thinking"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "quickly, he grabbed his 300 6, which is"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "a serious hunting rifle, and headed for"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "the front door. And as he walked"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "through, he could hear something on the"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "front porch. And it sounded incredibly"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "heavy, and he heard this breathing"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "sound, but it was deeper and louder than"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "any human he'd ever heard. So, he flips"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "on the porch light, yanks open the door,"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "rifle at the ready, and what he saw"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "standing on his front porch would be"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "with him for the rest of his life. The"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "creature, because that's the only word"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "for it, was massive. He saw something"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "that was 8 feet tall, dark hair or fur,"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "but it was standing on two legs like a"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "person. And this was not a bear. The"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "proportions were just wrong. The arms"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "were too long, the shoulders were very"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "broad, and the head was shaped more like"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "a human. There was a pronounced brow"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "ridge, deep set eyes that reflected the"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "porch light, and for a split second, Tim"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "and this animal just stared at each"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "other, and time around Tim just came to"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "a stop. He could actually see the"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "individual hairs on its body and could"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "smell this overwhelming musky odor. And"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "then this thing moved, but it didn't run"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "away like a startled animal did."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "Instead, it took a step toward Tim."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "That's when he fired. Whatever this"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "thing was jerked as the bullet hit it"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "somewhere in the upper torso and it let"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "out this horrible sound. It wasn't quite"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "a scream and it wasn't a roar, but it"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "was something in between and it was very"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "human sounding. And then it turned and"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "ran, taking enormous strides and"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "disappearing. In the same moment,"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "Michael comes rushing out, gun in hand,"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "and he's asking Tim what's happening,"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "but Tim could barely speak. He just is"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "pointing into the darkness saying, \"I"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "shot at it. I shot at it. I shot the"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "thing.\" And safe to say they didn't go"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "looking for it that night. To be honest,"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "they were simply too shaken. So they"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "locked themselves in the house and"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "waited for dawn. When the sun came up,"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "they decided to go out and investigate."}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "And what they found was bizarre. There"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "was blood on the porch where this thing"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "had been standing. Not a lot, but"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "definite drops of blood. And they"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "followed it into the woods. Now, about"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "100 or so yards from the house, they"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "found something that didn't really make"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "much sense at all. There was a dead"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "dough, a young dough, lying on the"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "ground, but this deer hadn't been killed"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "by a predator in any normal way. There"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "was a hole punched into its upper chest"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "near where the shoulder meets the body."}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "The hole was about the size of a fist,"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "and the deer's organs, you know, heart,"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "lungs, liver, all of it had been pulled"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "out through this opening. The organs"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "were gone, and the blood trail from"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "Tim's porch led directly to this deer."}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "It was evident that whatever they were"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "dealing with was simply beyond any"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "predator in the woods. So, they just"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "went back to the house and, you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "they tried to make sense of what all"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "this was. But Tim just couldn't"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "understand why a shot that close only"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "injured it, if even that. And after some"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "time, Michael was the one who finally"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "just said, \"Look, Tim, we need to get"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "help. We need to see someone about"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "this.\" And, you know, of course, they"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "argued about it because who do you call?"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "The Ghostbusters, the sheriff? like what"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "are they going to say? Well, it would"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "turn out there was actually an"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "organization for exactly this situation."}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "Around January 14th, 2000, Michael got"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "on the computer and started searching"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "and began looking at any types of things"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "that were related to what they were"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "experiencing. That's when they found the"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "BFRO, which is the Bigfoot Field"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "Researchers Organization. Not even"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "really sure if they were in the right"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "place or what they were doing, out of"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "desperation, Michael sent an email to"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "this website describing what had been"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "happening at their property and just"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "everything, the missing meat, the"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "sounds, the damage to the house, Tim's"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "encounter. And, you know, he wasn't"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "really expecting a response and he felt"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "pretty guilty about sending it in the"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "first place because he's convinced that"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "he's a crackpot now. But shortly after,"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "a man named Matt Money Maker, who was"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "the founder and director of the BFRO,"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "reached out within a few days, and he"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "basically told Michael that, you know,"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "we've had multiple reports from your"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "area. We would like to come and"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "investigate. And as it turns out, Laflur"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "County, where Honabi was located, had"}, {"end": "00:17:20", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "one of the highest concentrations of"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "Bigfoot sightings in the entire Bigfoot"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:20", "text": "database. The surrounding national"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "forest and mountains had been a hot spot"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "of encounters for decades. Matt Money"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "Maker explained to them that he was"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "going to put a team together and be"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "there within a week. Now, obviously, Tim"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "and his brother were very skeptical"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "because they're like, \"Look, we're"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "dealing with something here. We don't"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "think this is Bigfoot. We don't know"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "what it is, but we don't have time for"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "these, you know, these ridiculous"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "games.\" But on January 21st, 2000, the"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "team arrived and it consisted of Matt"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "Money Maker, a researcher named Miles, a"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "man named Roger Roberts, who was an"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "experienced tracker, and somewhat"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "surprisingly, Roger's 72-year-old"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "father-in-law, who had apparently been"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "on numerous Bigfoot expeditions despite"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "his age. Tim and Michael met them at the"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "gate to the property, and right away,"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "something strange had happened. The"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "metal gate, a standard farm gate made of"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "steel tubing, had a section that was"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "bent. I mean, not just bent a little,"}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "but creased at about a 14inch fold, like"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "something had grabbed it and squeezed"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "with incredible force. Obviously, Tim"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "and Michael hadn't noticed this before."}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "Or maybe it had just happened. Either"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "way, the team was immediately"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "interested, and they knew that this was"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "serious. So, they took photos, they took"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "measurements, and Roger ran his hand"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "along the bend and explained that"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "whatever did this would take hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "pounds of pressure, that no human did"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "this with their bare hands. So, the team"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "spent the rest of the afternoon just"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "looking around the property. You know,"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "they looked at the damaged window frame."}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "They examined the blood spots on the"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "porch and even visited the site where"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "Tim and his brother had found the"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "strangely killed deer. As evening"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "approached, the weather began to turn."}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "Dark clouds rolled in over the mountains"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "and it was clear that a storm was"}, {"end": "00:19:12", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "coming. The BFRO team had brought"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "camping equipment planning to stay on"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:12", "text": "the property, but Tim invited them to"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "set up inside the house instead. And so"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "that night on the night of January 21st"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "into the 22nd would be one of the most"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "intense experiences of all. 9:00 p.m."}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "rolls around. Bam, the storm hits."}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "There's heavy rain. There's lightning."}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "There's thunder. And then to make"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "matters worse, the power went out, which"}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "wasn't unusual during storms in this"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "area. Even though Tim had a generator,"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "they just decided to not use it and just"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "to use flashlights to avoid noise."}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "During this, the team set up their"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "equipment, you know, audio recorders,"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "night vision cameras, thermal imaging"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "devices, things that Tim had never seen"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "before, and they positioned themselves"}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "at various windows around the house,"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "just watching and waiting. And for"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "hours, nothing happened except the"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "storm. The dogs, which Tim had brought"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "inside, just stayed huddled in the"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "corner of the living room, whimpering"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "occasionally. At around 1:00 in the"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "morning, the dogs, which were calm,"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "suddenly stood up and started growling."}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "Low, deep growls, their hackles raised,"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "and they were staring at the front door."}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "And Money Maker responded saying,"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "\"Something's out there.\" Roger Roberts"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "was at the front window with night"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "vision goggles and he explained that"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "he's got eyes shine and he's like two"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "eyes about Jesus about seven or eight"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "feet off the ground near the tree line."}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "Responding to this, Tim grabs his rifle."}, {"end": "00:20:42", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "His hands are shaking and in that moment"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "he hears Miles say from the other window"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:42", "text": "that there's another one same height to"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "the left. Now the eyes that were out"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "there watching them in the darkness"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "didn't move at first. They kind of just"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "stayed there watching the house and the"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "BFRO team was frantically trying to get"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "their cameras positioned, but the rain,"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "you know, the moisture in the air, the"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "darkness made it impossible to get any"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "worthwhile footage. Then one of the eyes"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "started moving slowly, deliberately"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "circling around the back of the house."}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "Roberts knew exactly what was happening,"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "and he told everybody, \"It's flanking"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "us.\" There was tension in his voice now."}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "And Tim at this point had had enough. He"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "went to the front door, yanked it open,"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "fired his rifle into the air, and the"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "boom, of course, was enormous. Even with"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "the storm going on, the eyes that were"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "around them had disappeared instantly."}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "But then from the back of the house,"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "they heard a sound that made everyone"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "freeze up. It was a vocalization, a long"}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "drawn out howl that started low and rose"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "to a high pitch before dropping again."}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "It was not any animal they knew. And"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "Money Maker flat out said that that was"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "a warning and that they're telling us"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "that they're not happy. But ignoring his"}, {"end": "00:22:01", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "explanation, Tim fired again, this time"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "out the back door, hoping to make his"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:01", "text": "point. Michael was right behind him, and"}, {"end": "00:22:08", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "he too fired three shots in rapid"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "succession. What happened next was"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:08", "text": "chaos. The creatures, and there were"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "definitely more than two now, began"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "vocalizing from multiple directions all"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "around them. Howls and screams and"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "sounds that seemed almost like speech,"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "but not quite. The dogs were going"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "insane. They too were barking and"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "howling and whining. And Tim and Michael"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "along with the entire team spent the"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "next 3 hours in what can only be"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "described as a siege. These things would"}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "approach the house, sometimes getting"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "close enough that their heavy steps"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "could be heard and then the men would"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "fire warning shots and then these things"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "would retreat only to circle around and"}, {"end": "00:22:50", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "approach them in another direction. In"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "total, dozens of rounds were fired. Tim"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:50", "text": "went through two boxes of ammunition."}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "Michael emptied a shotgun multiple"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "times, but there was nothing. There was"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "nothing to show for all these rounds"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "being fired. There were no bodies. There"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "was no blood. And finally at around 4 in"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "the morning, all activity just ceased."}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "When dawn finally came, the exhausted"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "group ventured outside to look for"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "evidence. And you know, they expected to"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "find tracks in the mud. You know, maybe"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "there was blood, something to prove what"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "had happened, but there was nothing."}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "Now, of course, the rain had been so"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "heavy that I'm sure that it washed away"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "the tracks, but there was no physical"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "evidence at all of what had besieged the"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "house that night. The BFRO team packed"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "up their equipment that morning and"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "before they left, Money Maker had a"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "frank conversation with Tim and his"}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "brother and he basically just said,"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "\"Look, I've investigated hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "these cases and what you've got here is"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "a habituated group and they've learned"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "that your freezer has food. They've"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "associated your property with an easy"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "meal and now they're aggressive because"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "you've shot at one of them.\" And then he"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "just simply explained, \"First, get rid"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "of all the meat. Empty the freezer,"}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "donate it, throw it away, whatever. Just"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "get rid of it. Second, you can no longer"}, {"end": "00:24:07", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "hunt on this property. No more deer"}, {"end": "00:24:09", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "kills that might attract them. If you"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:07", "text": "remove the food source, they'll move on."}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:09", "text": "If you don't, well, this is going to"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "keep escalating. What a heavy message"}, {"end": "00:24:17", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "for Tim, right? Well, after the team"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "left, you know, they said their goodbyes"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:17", "text": "and all that, Tim decided to call his"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "wife and he told her everything that had"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "happened, what was said to him. And, you"}, {"end": "00:24:27", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "know, she was really adamant. She was"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "like, \"Tim, I'm not coming back to that"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:27", "text": "house. Not ever. Like, you need to"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "figure this out.\" So, Tim and his"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "brother just spent the next few days"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "debating on what to do. I mean, they"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "were torn. Like, this was property that"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "they had had in their family for years."}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "And to know that they're just going to"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "have to give it up. I mean, what? They"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "didn't have time to sell it or anything."}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "There was a part of Tim that a rational"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "part that knew that Matt Money Maker was"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "probably right and that if they didn't"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "get out of here, things could possibly"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "escalate to the point of Tim dying. And"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "within a few days, their decision was"}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "made. They loaded up the freezer full of"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "deer meat, drove it to a food bank in"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "town and donated all of it. They put"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "away their hunting rifles, and they"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "declared their property a no hunting"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "zone. And then they waited for a week."}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "They waited. There didn't seem to be any"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "activity really. It was almost like"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "flipping a switch. At one point during"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "this time period, Michael actually saw"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "one while looking out the window in"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "broad daylight. And off in the distance,"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "he just saw this large dark figure"}, {"end": "00:25:29", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "standing just inside the treeine"}, {"end": "00:25:31", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "watching the house. Of course, it was"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:29", "text": "too far away to make out details, but it"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "was clearly bipedal and much too large"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "to be a person, and it stood there for"}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "maybe 5 minutes just watching. Then it"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "turned and walked deeper into the"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "forest. That was the last time either of"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "them saw one of these things. By the end"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "of 2000, Tim and his family had made the"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "heartbreaking decision to leave. Tim and"}, {"end": "00:25:53", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "Michael stuck it out at the property for"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "a few more months, but it just the whole"}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:53", "text": "place felt different now, like it was"}, {"end": "00:25:59", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "tainted. They couldn't relax and they"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "couldn't enjoy it the way they used to."}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "Before long, the property was listed for"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "sale, but you know, it sat on the market"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "for months with no buyers. I mean, who"}, {"end": "00:26:10", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "wants to buy a house with that kind of"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "problem? Eventually, it was abandoned,"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:10", "text": "packed up what they could carry, and"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "left. Now, sometime in 2001, people"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "hiking around the area reported finding"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "the house empty with belongings still"}, {"end": "00:26:25", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "inside. Furniture, clothing, personal"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "items. It appeared as if the family had"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:25", "text": "just vanished. And the property"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "eventually went into foreclosure. But"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "the story takes an even more interesting"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "turn. The encounters around Honabe"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "didn't end with the family. In fact,"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "they seemed to increase. More and more"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "people reported seeing these large"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "haircovered bipeedal creatures in that"}, {"end": "00:26:49", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "same national forest. In fact, the"}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "Oklahoma Department of Wildlife started"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "quietly monitoring the area, though they"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "never publicly acknowledged why. And in"}, {"end": "00:27:01", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "October of 2005, the tiny community of"}, {"end": "00:27:03", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "Honaby decided to embrace its newfound"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:01", "text": "reputation. They held their first annual"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "Bigfoot Festival. It was supposed to be"}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "a small local event, you know, maybe"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "attract a few tourists, sell some"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "t-shirts. But of course, it exploded"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "into a movement. Thousands of people"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "showed up. You had Bigfoot researchers,"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "believers, skeptics, all descending on"}, {"end": "00:27:23", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "this tiny community. And since then,"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "it's become this annual tradition"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:23", "text": "growing larger each year. In 2011,"}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "another hunter in the same area claimed"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "he shot and wounded a Bigfoot. Though,"}, {"end": "00:27:35", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "like Tim, he had no body to prove it."}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "The story, of course, made national news"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:35", "text": "briefly before being dismissed"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "altogether. And in 2014, a podcast"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "actually tracked down someone claiming"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "to be Tim, though they didn't use his"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "real name for privacy reasons, and"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "interviewed him about his experiences."}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "In the interview, he stood by everything"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "that had happened, and he was living in"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "Texas by then, working as a diesel"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "mechanic, and basically said that he"}, {"end": "00:28:01", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "would never move back to that property"}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "ever. What really happened to Tim and"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:01", "text": "his family in those woods of"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:03", "text": "southeastern Oklahoma? Was it Bigfoot?"}, {"end": "00:28:09", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "Maybe a group of them that had learned"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "to steal from freezers and become"}, {"end": "00:28:14", "start": "00:28:09", "text": "aggressive when confronted? Sadly, no"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "physical evidence was ever produced, no"}, {"end": "00:28:19", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "clear photographs, no hair samples that"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "tested as unknown, no bodies. But"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:19", "text": "regardless, it is scarred Tim and his"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "family permanently. And because you guys"}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "comment below, dear thief. So that way I"}, {"end": "00:28:33", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "know who made it to the end and who"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy this kind"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:33", "text": "of content where we deep dive into cases"}, {"end": "00:28:40", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "of the mysterious and supernatural, what"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "are you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "content just like this. As always, never"}, {"end": "00:28:48", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "forget, I love you all. Keep an open"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "mind and I'll see you all in the very"}, {"end": "00:28:51", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "next episode."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "What I'm about to tell you is beyond"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "comprehension. It's the kind of thing"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "that makes your blood run cold when you"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "realize how deep this rabbit hole goes."}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "Today, I'm talking about the real rulers"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "of the world. Black Rockck, Vanguard,"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "and State Street, the big three asset"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "managers who are puppet masters pulling"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "the strings of the entire global"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "economy."}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "Welcome to the shadow economy. Black"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "Rockck controls $10.6 trillion in"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "assets. You heard me right. Trillions."}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "That's more than half the GDP of the"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "entire United States. Folks, this isn't"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "just a big company. This is a super"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "entity, a shadowy colossus operating"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "behind the scenes. And I'm telling you"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "right now, it's not your money they're"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "controlling. It's your lives. You might"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "think just investing money, right? It's"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "not like they own it. Wrong. They don't"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "need to own it to control it. This is"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "financial warfare at its finest, people."}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "They've perfected a technique called"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "passive investing, a loophole that"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "allows them to buy up shares in nearly"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "every major company across the board."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "They hold pieces of everything. Amazon,"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "Apple, Google, you name it. They have"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "stock in 95% of Fortune 500 companies,"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "and they claim they're just passive,"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "just going along for the ride. Black"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "Rockck, Vanguard, and State Street are"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "sitting on top of your pension funds,"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "your 401ks, your insurance savings, the"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "money you've been slaving away for your"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "whole life. They're holding it, they're"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "using it, and you get zero say in what"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "they do with it. It's like a pyramid"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "scheme, but worse. Because this time,"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "the pyramid is the entire financial"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "system. They use these index funds and"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "ETFs to buy small stakes in every"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "company, which might sound harmless, but"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "here's the kicker. When you own 5% of a"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "company and everyone else owns fractions"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "of a percent, you're the biggest player"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "at the table. And guess what? The votes,"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "they get the votes. Your retirement"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "savings are the bargaining chips for"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "Black Rockck's power plays. Even if you"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "don't think you're being tracked online,"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "you are. Your internet service provider"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "can see everything you do. While there"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "probably isn't a guy sitting in a corner"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "office watching your every move, many"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "ISPs do compile anonymous browsing logs"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "and sometimes sell them to advertising"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "companies. Now more than ever is it"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "important to protect your data online."}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "That's why we use private internet"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "access."}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "With private internet access, you can"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "safeguard all your online activity with"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "militarygrade encryption, protecting you"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "from hacks, governments, and even your"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "own internet provider."}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "Plus, they have a strict no logs policy,"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "which means they don't track or store"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "any of your browsing history, so your"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "privacy stays private."}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "One click and you're protected. No"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "complicated setup required."}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "That's why we are self-use private"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "internet access for everything we do"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "online."}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Get 83% off and 4 months free using our"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "link for a limited time. You can click"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "the link in the description to try it"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "out today."}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "This isn't investing. This is universal"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "ownership. They don't have a stake in"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "the game. They own the entire casino."}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "When you look at the big picture, it's"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "clear we're not dealing with a financial"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "firm. We're dealing with an empire."}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "Black Rockck's strategy is to own a"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "slice of everything so that they're"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "always winning no matter which companies"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "rise or fall. It's a new kind of"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "monopoly, a neo monopoly that transcends"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "traditional competition. Think about it."}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "If they own pieces of all the major"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "airlines, all the big tech companies,"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "all the major banks, then they don't"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "care which one wins because they profit"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "either way. This isn't capitalism,"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "folks. This is something far more"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "sinister. It's like a financial octopus."}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "It's tentacles wrapped around every"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "sector, squeezing tighter and tighter."}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "Why would they want control over every"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "aspect of the economy? Because it's not"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "about the money, folks. It's about the"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "control. This is a move straight out of"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "the globalist playbook. The same"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "playbook used by the World Economic"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "Forum. Larry Frink, the CEO of Black"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "Rockck, isn't just a finance guy. He's a"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "globalist insider rubbing elbows with"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "Klaus Schwab, pushing for ESG scores and"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "advocating for stakeholder capitalism,"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "which is just fancy talk for centralized"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "control. And here's the kicker. These"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "guys aren't accountable to anyone."}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "They've created a closed loop system"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "where they own shares in each other."}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "That's right. Black Rockck's biggest"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "investors are Vanguard and State Street"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "and vice versa. It's an endless money"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "goround, a self-reinforcing feedback"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "loop of power and influence. It's the"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "ultimate financial power grab and the"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "average American is completely clueless"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "about it. We've established that Black"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "Rockck isn't just an asset manager."}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "They're the puppet masters, quietly"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "manipulating the strings of the global"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "economy. Now, we're diving into their"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "secret weapon, the revolving door"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "between Black Rockck and the US"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "government. This isn't some far-fetched"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "conspiracy theory. This is documented"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "fact, and the implications are"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "terrifying. Let's break this down. Black"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "Rockck is so powerful that in 2008,"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "during the financial crisis, the US"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "government didn't turn to a bank for"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "help. They turned to Black Rockck. They"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "were brought in to help manage the"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "bailout of Bear Sterns and AIG. That's"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "right. Instead of being regulated like"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "the mega banks they overshadow, they"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "were invited to play the role of savior."}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "And do you know what happens when you"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "become the go-to fixer for financial"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "disasters? You get access, folks. You"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "get influence. Larry Frink, the head"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "honcho of Black Rockck, didn't just stop"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "at helping with the bailout. He started"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "planting his people in highlevel"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "positions across the government. There's"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "a revolving door spinning at warp speed"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "between Black Rockck, the Treasury"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "Department, the Federal Reserve, and"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "even the White House. Since 2004, at"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "least 84 former government officials and"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "central bankers have found a cushy"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "landing at Black Rockck. You think"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "that's a coincidence? Let's talk about"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "Larry Frink himself. He's not just the"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "CEO of a big company. He's a globalist"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "insider, a kingmaker. He sits on the"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "board of the World Economic Forum,"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "rubbing elbows with Klaus Schwab and the"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "rest of the elites who are planning the"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Great Reset. You remember that, right?"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "The Great Reset is about resetting the"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "world's economy into a controlled system"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "where they own everything and you own"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "nothing. Frink tried to get himself"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "appointed as Hillary Clinton's Treasury"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "Secretary in 2016. He wasn't just vying"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "for power. He was preparing to be the"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "gatekeeper of American finance. And it"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "gets worse. Black Rockck has direct ties"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "to the Federal Reserve, which let's be"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "honest, is neither federal nor a"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "reserve. During the CO 19 pandemic, the"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "Fed turned to Black Rockck again to help"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "administer emergency lending programs."}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "This means Black Rockck was essentially"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "printing money and deciding where it"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "goes. Imagine that. The same company"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "managing your pension fund is also"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "deciding how much money gets pumped into"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "the economy. This isn't free market"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "capitalism, folks. This is financial"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "fascism. Now, here's the part that"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "should really get your blood boiling. In"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "2008, after they played a central role"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "in managing the bailout, Congress"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "realized that these asset managers were"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "too big to fail. They wanted to regulate"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "them like banks because they control"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "more money than any bank on Earth. But"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "what did Black Rockck do? They doubled"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "their lobbying spending and ran a"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "superargeted ad campaign in Washington"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "DC, pushing back against any attempts to"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "regulate them. And here's the kicker."}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "Black Rockck gets to self-certify their"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "compliance with passive investment"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "rules. That's right. They get to audit"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "themselves. It's like giving a thief the"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "keys to the bank and telling him to"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "guard the vault. They submit letters"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "every year declaring they're passive"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "investors and don't need to be regulated"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "like banks. It's a legal loophole,"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "folks. And they're exploiting it to the"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "max. It's financial anarchy and they're"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "the ones making the rules. But here's"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "the thing. It's not just Washington,"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "folks. Black Rockck has global"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "connections. They've got ties to central"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "banks in Canada, Europe, and even the"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "IMF. The IMF, by the way, is pushing for"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "a central bank digital currency that"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "would give governments control over"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "every dollar you spend. And who do you"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "think will help manage this new digital"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "financial system, you guessed it, Black"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "Rockck. This is the global financial"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "coup. The quiet takeover of the world's"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "economic systems by a few mega"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "corporations and their elite partners in"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "government. And it's not just happening"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "in America. It's happening worldwide."}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "Black Rockck isn't just a company. It's"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "a globalist tool, a financial weapon"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "being used to shape the future without"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "your consent. Black Rockck owns a piece"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "of Amazon, Google, and Facebook. And"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "these companies own the digital"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "infrastructure we all rely on. They"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "control what you see, what you hear, and"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "how you interact online. It's the"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "perfect storm for total control. And"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "they've got their tentacles in"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "everything. airlines, banks, tech"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "companies, and even the food you eat."}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "But what's the real cost of all this"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "control? How does it impact you, the"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "average American who's just trying to"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "make ends meet? Let's dig into the great"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "squeeze, a financial strangle hold"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "that's bleeding us dry. The squeeze on"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "wages and prices. You ever wonder why"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "everything feels more expensive these"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "days, yet your paycheck isn't stretching"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "as far? It's not your imagination. This"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "is by design, folks. BlackRock and their"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "partners in the big three, Vanguard and"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "State Street, have stakes in every major"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "company you can think of. From your"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "local grocery store to the tech giants"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "that control your phone, they're all on"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "the same payroll. Here's what's"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "happening. These asset managers are"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "pushing for maximum corporate profits at"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "any cost. And that cost is passed"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "directly onto you. They've got a direct"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "incentive to squeeze workers and raise"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "prices across the board because they"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "control the entire supply chain. Look at"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "the airlines. The big three own pieces"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "of every major airline. You think"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "they're interested in lowering ticket"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "prices? No way. They make more money by"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "keeping fairs high and cutting costs,"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "which means fewer staff, crammed"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "flights, and higher prices for you. And"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "it's not just airlines. Take a look at"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "the big retail brands. Nike, Adidas,"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "Under Armour. They're all part of Black"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "Rockck's portfolio. They don't care"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "which brand wins because they own them"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "all. Competition has become a theater of"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "illusion, a fake battle where no matter"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "who you choose, the profits end up in"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "the same place. It's a neo monopoly, a"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "new form of monopoly where companies"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "don't need to merge because they're"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "already controlled by the same puppet"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "masters. Back in the day, owning shares"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "meant having a voice. You could vote on"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "corporate decisions, hold executives"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "accountable, and actually have a say in"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "the direction of a company. That's been"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "erased, folks. Today, Black Rockck and"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "the other asset managers have"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "consolidated that power. Your 401k, your"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "pension fund, it's all just fuel for"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "their voting power. And what do they"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "vote for? More executive bonuses, more"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "stock buybacks, and less money going"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "into the pockets of hardworking"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "Americans. Let's talk about stock"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "buybacks for a second. This is where"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "companies use their profits to buy back"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "their own shares instead of reinvesting"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "in the business or raising wages. It's a"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "way to artificially inflate stock"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "prices, making the rich even richer"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "while regular employees get left in the"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "dust. And who's cheering this on from"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "the sidelines? Black Rockck. Because"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "higher stock prices mean higher"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "management fees and bigger profits for"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "them. This is a rigged game, folks. And"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "the house always wins. Here's where it"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "gets even darker. Universal ownership"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "isn't just about holding shares in every"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "company. It's about creating a network"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "of control that eliminates real"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "competition. Black Rockck's strategy"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "isn't to bet on the winning horse. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "to own the entire racetrack. They hold"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "major stakes in all the big players in"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "every sector. Tech, retail, banking,"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "airlines, energy. It's a web of"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "influence so extensive that it's nearly"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "impossible for any outsider to compete."}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "Think about this. If Black Rockck owns"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "significant shares in both Nike and"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "Adidas, why would they want these"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "companies to engage in a price war? They"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "wouldn't. It's better for their bottom"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "line if the companies keep prices high"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "and split the market. This is why"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "everything from sneakers to cereal costs"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "more today. It's not inflation. It's"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "price fixing at the highest levels"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "disguised as quote market trends. And"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "now we get to the endgame, folks. This"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "isn't just about profits. This is about"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "control. Plain and simple. Black Rockck"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "isn't just managing money. They're"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "shaping policy, influence over the"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "Federal Reserve, the IMF, and the World"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "Economic Forum puts them in the driver's"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "seat of the global financial system."}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "They're pushing for things like central"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "bank digital currencies, CBDC's, which"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "would give the government total control"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "over your money. You step out of line,"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "they freeze your account. This is the"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "financial equivalent of the Patriot Act,"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "giving them complete surveillance over"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "your spending. Larry Frink has been"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "vocal about stakeholder capitalism,"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "which sounds nice on paper, but is just"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "a Trojan horse for centralized economic"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "control. It's the same ideology behind"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "the Great Reset. You will own nothing"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "and you will be happy. Who's going to"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "own everything then? The asset managers,"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "the financial elites, the very people"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "who've been pulling the strings. You"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "might be sitting there thinking, \"This"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "sounds hopeless. What can we do?\" These"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "asset managers operate in the shadows,"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "counting on the fact that most people"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "have no idea what's going on. It's time"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "to shine a light on their tactics,"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "expose their influence, and push back"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "against this financial tyranny. We need"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "real oversight. We need regulations that"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "treat these asset managers like the"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "banks they are, holding them accountable"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "for their outsized control over our"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "economy. We need to take back our"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "shareholder rights, demand transparency,"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "and start making noise before it's too"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "late. Because if we don't, we're looking"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "at a future where the middle class is"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "obliterated, the economy is centrally"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "controlled, and freedom as we know it is"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "nothing but a distant memory."}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "No use. I will never dream of your love"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "to take me there. Take me there."}]

[{"end": "00:00:04", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "What role um in the Middle East again"}, {"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "does Israel play in this? Israel was"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "created as the instrument to bring about"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "the battle of Armageddon and the"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "fulfillment of prophecy, a war that will"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "be so terrible where nuclear weapons"}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "will be used so that the American"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "citizens and the other people of the"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "world will get down on their knees and"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "beg for no more war. And what is the"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "answer to that? They're going to be told"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "the only way we can guarantee no more"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "war is if we destroy the sovereignty of"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "nations and we come together as one"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "humanity in a one world government."}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "Right?"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "The IC continues to assess that Iran is"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "not building a nuclear weapon and"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "Supreme Leader Kamei has not authorized"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "the nuclear weapons program that he"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "suspended in 2003."}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "The IC continues to monitor closely if"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "Thrron decides to reauthorize its"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "nuclear weapons program. But how close"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "do you personally think that they were"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "to getting one? Because Tulsi Gab Tulsi"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "Gabard testified in March that that the"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "intelligence community said Iran wasn't"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "building a nuclear weapon. I don't care"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "what she said. and I think they were"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "very close to happen. As we saw there,"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "Netanyahu has been fixated with Iran's"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "nuclear program for decades now. Will"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "the US finally give him what he wants?"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "It seems it is. Um, just judging from"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "the movements of the American president"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "and the various reports the past 24"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "hours, clearly Trump is up to something"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "when he talks about unconditional"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "surrender."}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "But, uh, this is not just Netanyahu."}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "Just for the record, since you've had"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "this excellent package, it's good to"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "recall that the United States started"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "warning about um Iranian nuclear weapon"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "back in 1981."}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "That's before Netanyahu entered into"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "politics. And it had repeated that for"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "the past 40 years as well. It seemed"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "like the Americans and Netanyahu have"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "been echoing one another about an"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "threat. And the question is why? Why do"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "they do that? Because mission"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "accomplished in Iraq was done several"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "months after the war started. But it was"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "not mission accomplished. That's the"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "problem here is that you can even occupy"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "the as Bush occupied Baghdad. But then"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "what? Then 20 years of uh tormenting uh"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "the Iraqis and the Iraqis tormenting the"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "American costing them more than $3"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "trillion. Look at Pakistan. Look at"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "Afghanistan. They occupied it in a"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "matter of hours. They kicked out the"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "Taliban for 20 years, right? They have"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "gone on in that war and they got"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "humiliated. The same could happen in"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "Iran. So, which brings me to to this"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "question then? What what is the only way"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "if there is a way that Israel and the US"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "can defeat Iran today?"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "They can defeat Iran. But then what?"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "This is the problem, right? These are"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "all feric victories. Victories are"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "concepts for, you know, narrow-minded"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "politicians and poets. You raise no"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "victory because they've tried it for so"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "many years. Didn't they start with"}, {"end": "00:03:04", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "regime change in in Iran back in 1953,"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "70 years ago? And what's the result?"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:04", "text": "Didn't they do the same once and again?"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "How many wars were fought by Israel and"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "the United States in the Middle East?"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "And each time they declare victory, they"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "declared defeat."}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "No one is defeated because this cycle of"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "of wars and violence in the Middle East"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "cannot be won by airplanes. I spoke with"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "Major B, an Israeli fighter pilot who is"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "on the front lines of this war. Take a"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "listen. Can you talk about those"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "dangers? Were there any efforts to shoot"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "down Israeli jets? What does Iranian air"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "defense look like? So, when you ask"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "about attempts, um I will say that it's"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "it's pretty obvious that the that the"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "Iranian regime doesn't like uh the"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Israeli fighter jets flying over their"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "skies. Um and they they do have uh uh"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "they have advanced um their technologies"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "on their side in the past year as as"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "well as we have. Um and and we've been"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "practicing and training for um for for"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "this type of scenario. Um so what what"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "we have done in the first 24 hours is"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "create that environment so that"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "whichever surfaceto-air threat we would"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "uh face we'd be able to make sure that"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "that our side wins."}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "We don't want Iran to acquire nuclear"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "weapons or ballistic capabilities. But I"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "think the biggest mistake we can make"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "today is to use military means to bring"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "about regime change in Iran because that"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "would mean chaos."}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "Well, before sunrise, President Trump"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "returned to Washington to be in place as"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "commander-in-chief as Israel and Iran"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "launch a new round of attacks. He has"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "some evaluations and decisions to make."}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "We know he does not want a wider war."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "The number one goal here is to contain"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Iran. Israel and Iran are on their fifth"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "day of fighting and Israeli officials"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "believe their strikes have significantly"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "set back Iran's nuclear program. We've"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "taken out their main enrichment facility"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "at Natans. We've taken out their"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "conversion facility uh in Isvahan. We're"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "on the road to victory and we're deeply"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "grateful for President Trump's support"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "of what we are doing right now. The US"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "is not involved offensively in the"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "conflict, but the Pentagon says US"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "forces are standing by. The president"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "says he's not interested in a ceasefire"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "and has his sight set on something"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "bigger. And then a real end, not a"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "ceasefire. And then for American troops"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "to get involved, President Trump would"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "need approval from Congress. But even"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "Republicans are split on US"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "intervention. Well, I think Iran is in a"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "really tough spot here, entirely of"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "their own making. They're not used to"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "having a president who doesn't try to"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "bribe them with stuff like Obama did or"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "cowtow him and give him freebies like"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Biden did. They've got a president here"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "who puts America first, who's going to"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "do what's in America's best interest."}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "And I think Trump's been really clear."}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "Iran's not going to get a nuke. So they"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "can either come to the table and"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "surrender their nuclear program freely,"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "peaceibly, as Trump is offering, or they"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "can face Israel on their own. Do you"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "think there's a danger of not allowing"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "Israel to finish the job? Does this be"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "all for not unless they can get rid of"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "the entire nuclear program that includes"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "Fordo?"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "I think that President Trump, I trust"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "him on this. I think he has handled this"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "situation very, very deafly. And my view"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "is is that he's going to continue to put"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "America's security interests first. He's"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "given Israel a lot of space to protect"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "themselves, which is what they're doing,"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "to put their security interests, make"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "sure that Israel sees to its own"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "security interests. I think that's"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "entirely appropriate. And I think the"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "president here is continuing to be"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "consistent, saying Iran's not getting a"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "nuke. And if Iran wants to come to the"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "table and surrender their nuclear"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "program, the United States is here to"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "help that. Otherwise, Iran is is not"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "going to get any cover from the United"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "States. We're not going to bail him out"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "of this. We're not going to protect him"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "like previous American presidents,"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "frankly, have done. Are we going to see"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "the Iraq playbook, you think, being"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "applied to Iran?"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "There's absolutely no doubt about that."}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "If I had any doubt, I could then just uh"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "add up the four or five elements that"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "built up in a manufactured way by the"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "Bush administration. one that they that"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "the nuclear uh threat was eminent that a"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "yellow mushroom cloud would be"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "approaching America if America didn't"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "act first that Saddam was going to give"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "those nuclear weapons to al Netanyahu"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "says that Iran was going to give them to"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "the Houthis and that uh that that that"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "nothing short of regime change is going"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "to happen again. Seen that with Iraq now"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "we see it with Iran. So Netanyahu is"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "definitely playing that book each and"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "every step of the way. And the problem"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "is that they are eating it away both in"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "Israel and the United States. In Israel,"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "there's a kind of a a bit of an appetite"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "for it. There's Israeli scholar, an"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "excellent Israeli scholar who wrote the"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "book called Iran Phobia. Maron, as we as"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "we as we're talking, we are watching"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "live pictures of the skies over Tel"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Aviv. And uh the Israeli military saying"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "its defensive systems are operating to"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "ins intercept uh missiles which have"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "been just launched from Iran. We saw"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "that uh a few minutes ago and uh the"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "interceptors apparently at work right"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "now. Uh this is a live picture from Tel"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "Aviv, Israel. The Iranians are firing a"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "number of missiles in the last few"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "minutes which we understand have been"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "intercepted by uh Israel's defense"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "systems. Um we were talking about the"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "Americans. You mentioned George Bush uh"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "Marwan. What do you think has changed"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "now specifically now to make Donald"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "Trump um consider and determined it"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "would seem to take the US to war? He'd"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "been so vocal in the past about wanting"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "to keep uh the Americans out of the"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "world's problems, out of the Middle"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "East. What what's changed? Do you think"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "these sorts of things require more than"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "military solutions? You can't transform"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "societies by military. We are not in the"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "mindset of World War II. This is a whole"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "other ball game. The world is sitting on"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "a knife's edge and the pressure is"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "building."}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Why? Because three major world"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "religions, Judaism, Christianity, and"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "Islam, all claim the same hill in"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "Jerusalem as holy ground."}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "This isn't just a matter of historical"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "significance."}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "It's an issue of truly biblical"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "proportions,"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "a prophetic time bomb waiting to"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "detonate. The hill at the center of it"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "all is the Temple Mount. A hill soaked"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "in centuries of faith, blood, and"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "expectation. Jewish prophecy expects a"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "third temple to be built on this hill."}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "This is the very location where the"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "first temple built by wise King Solomon"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "under God's instruction once stood in"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "all its glory."}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "It was a place where God's presence"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "dwelled, where sacrifices were offered"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "and where Israel met with their God."}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "After its destruction by the"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "Babylonians, the second temple was"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "constructed by the returning exiles and"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "later expanded by Herod the Great."}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "This second temple too was destroyed in"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "70 AD by the Romans fulfilling the"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24:2"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "where he said not one stone shall be"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "left here upon another that shall not be"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "thrown down."}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "Yet Jewish tradition and scripture still"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "point toward a third temple. This"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "promise is not allegorical or symbolic"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "in the eyes of observant Jews."}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "It is literal."}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "The temple must be rebuilt on the exact"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "same site as the previous two, for that"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "is the sacred ground chosen by God. And"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "herein lies the conflict. The Dome of"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "the Rock now occupies that space."}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "This golden shrine constructed in 691"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "AD by the Umayad Caliphate marks the"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "spot Muslims believe the prophet"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "Muhammad ascended to heaven during the"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "night journey known as the Isra and"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "Mirage."}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "For Islam, this is the third holiest"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "site after Mecca and Medina. known as"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "the Haram al-Shariff"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "or the noble sanctuary. It is a place of"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "profound reverence and importance for"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "their religion. While we will not delve"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "deeply into Islamic esquetology,"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "it is essential to recognize that this"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "location is literally their third"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "holiest site and they believe it to be"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "sacred ground, adding to the explosive"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "potential should any attempt be made to"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "rebuild the Jewish temple there. From a"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "Christian perspective, especially within"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "the futurist school of esquetology, the"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "rebuilding of the Jewish temple is not"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "merely a religious event, but a"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "prophetic necessity."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "According to scripture, this temple will"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "exist in the last days and will play a"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "central role in the fulfillment of end"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "times events."}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "Daniel 9 27 speaks of a covenant"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "confirmed by a coming ruler for one week"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "interpreted as 7 years with sacrifices"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "being stopped halfway through. This"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "presumes the existence of an operating"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "temple where sacrifices can take place."}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "2 Thessalonians 2:4 speaks of the man of"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "sin, the antichrist, who sits as God in"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "the temple of God, showing himself that"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "he is God."}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "And Revelation 11:1-2 describes John"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "being told to measure the temple while"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "the outer court is given to the"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "Gentiles."}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "All of these passages point to a future"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "temple that will not only exist, but"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "will also be desecrated by the"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "Antichrist."}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "This makes the temple not just a Jewish"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "concern, but a focal point for all who"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "study and believe in biblical prophecy."}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "The Bible is clear. There will be a"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "temple in the last days. It will be"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "built. It will be defiled."}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "And it will trigger events that lead"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "directly to the return of Jesus Christ."}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "Now consider the tension. For a third"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "temple to rise on the temple mount,"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "something of monumental significance"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "must occur. Either the dome of the rock"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "must be removed, destroyed, or somehow"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "accommodated."}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "One scenario that has gained traction"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "among some theologians, scholars, and"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "planners"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "is the possibility that both the Dome of"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "the Rock and the Third Temple could"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "stand side by side on the same mount."}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "This concept, though seemingly"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "impossible now, envisions a future where"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "architectural reconfiguration or"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "political negotiation allows for the"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "construction of the temple without the"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "destruction of the dome."}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "Such an arrangement would require an"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "unprecedented level of global"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "cooperation. Perhaps it will even be"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "orchestrated by the Antichrist himself,"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "a charismatic global figure who appears"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "to offer peace and unity. but ultimately"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "seeks to deceive."}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "The Bible warns us that he will be a"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "master of diplomacy,"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "someone who understands intrigue and"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "signs a covenant with many. It is not"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "unthinkable that he could be the one to"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "negotiate an agreement that allows the"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "temple to rise beside the Dome of the"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "Rock. An act that would be hailed as a"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "miracle of reconciliation. yet in"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "reality would pave the way for the"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "greatest betrayal in human history."}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "If both structures were to coexist, it"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "would undoubtedly become the most"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "visited and watched location on earth, a"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "physical and spiritual representation of"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "prophecy and tension living side by"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "side. We do not know how the third"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "temple will be built currently, whether"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "the dome of the rock must be removed or"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "somehow accommodated. and both"}, {"end": "00:15:46", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "structures stand side by side."}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "That uncertainty adds to the prophetic"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:46", "text": "tension surrounding this sacred site."}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "Every potential scenario presents"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "monumental challenges politically and"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "yet the word of God assures us that a"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "temple will rise."}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "No use it. 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Just say just if you"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "just say it's coming, people"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "automatically make the changes. That"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "seems so reasonable. Yeah, I I agree."}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "And they were like, \"Uh-uh.\""}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "They thought it was like too politically"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "difficult. I'm like, uh, I mean, I don't"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "know, man. I think that's like half at"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "least half the reason you got elected."}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "So, why don't you just fight for that?"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "You know, there's just one thing that"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "will matter. Put a price on carbon. That"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "would be the best option. For sure."}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "That seems like it'd be such a good"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "idea. Like, what do 90% of economists"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "think? And like they all agree, okay, we"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "should do that. It was too politically"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "difficult for Elon to introduce a carbon"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "tax under President Biden because the"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "MAGA cult would have resisted it. But"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "they have become cheerleaders for the"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "new system and all things Elon. So now"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "the gates are wide open. Democratic"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "party member Maxine Waters recently"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "introduced bipartisan stable coin"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "legislation. This aligns with what the"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "Trump administration has been proposing"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "and is expected to be passed into law"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "without any push back. This will create"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "a digital dollar backed by US Treasury"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "bills and other debt instruments. But"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "the United States has been bankrupt for"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "decades and a complete financial crash"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "is imminent. Once the dollar dies, the"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "already legally accepted stable coins"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "will then be pegged to Bitcoin. And the"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "new digital system will be the savior."}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "It will be celebrated for saving us from"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "a depression, securing our borders, and"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "protecting the children. And the carbon"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "tax will begin. But it's really"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "fundamental. Unless there's a price put"}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "on carbon, we're never going to be able"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "to make the transition that we need to"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "in time. Correct. Yeah. And the only way"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "to do that is basically with a carbon"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "tax."}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Everybody knows it's coming and the"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "people who don't embrace it early are"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "going to ultimately lose. Eric Trump"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "recently met with Michael Sailor at Mara"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "Lago who has been proposing a plan to"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "preserve US dollar dominance by"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "utilizing Bitcoin as a reserve. Here's"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "the strategy. You dump gold, demonetize"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "the entire gold network. You buy"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "Bitcoin. You buy 5 million or 6 million"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "Bitcoin. You monetize the Bitcoin"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "network and you just define digital"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "currency as the US dollar backed by US"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "dollar equivalents in a regulated US"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "custodian. replaces every currency in"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "the world with the dollar which the US"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "controls and"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "it siphons off hundreds of trillions of"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "dollars of 20th century capital assets"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "and half of the capital in the rest of"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "the world and most 75% of the capital of"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "our enemies get siphoned into Bitcoin"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "and the beneficiary is the US government"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "and after that every US company because"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "we're the ones that own and run it."}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Trump has been rebranding the North"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "American Union as Canada being the 51st"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "state of the United States. And Justin"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "Trudeau has now resigned, leaving a"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "clear path for Pierre Polyv to make"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "significant changes. We haven't really"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "seen a lot of concrete proposals from"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "Mr. Polyv. I mean, he he he did make"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "one. That's not fair. You're right. He"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "had one great opportunity for people to"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "opt out of inflation. And he recommended"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "this last last spring. You can opt out"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "of inflation if you invest your money in"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "Bitcoin. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. He"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "stayed up late, watched all sorts of"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "YouTube videos, and came to that"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "conclusion. He said that himself. We're"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "going to buy this schwarma with this"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "Bitcoin. Send. Done."}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "I got it. You got the"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "guys, we did it. We bought the schwarmer"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "with Bitcoin. So that is my plan to"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "enable Canada to become the blockchain"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "and crypto capital of the world. Debt"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "slavery has existed on Earth for"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "thousands of years, which is why a"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "cashless society has been of great"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "concern to freedom loving souls. In the"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "earliest days of civilization, farmers"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "would borrow against their harvest. And"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "if the harvest failed, the farmer would"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "lose everything and become a slave until"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "the debt was repaid. Eventually, the"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "amount of slaves with nothing to lose"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "becomes a threat to those in power. And"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "so, debt jubilees were issued at regular"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "intervals, as a matter of public"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "stability. The Bible describes a debt"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "jubilee that would happen every 50 years"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "as an economic reset, a year of"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "liberation and restoration where debts"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "are forgiven, land is returned, and"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "slaves are set free. The ancient Greeks"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "had debt jubilees to avoid violent"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "revolutions and uprisings. As economist"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "Lynn Alden wrote, \"It wasn't out of"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "kindness that rulers did this. It was a"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "solution to a societal math problem. If"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "you run a computer long enough,"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "eventually it starts to work less"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "efficiently. Refreshing the power and"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "rebooting the system gets the computer"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "running smoothly again.\" A Jubilee year"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "has been celebrated every 25 years by"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "the Catholic Church since 1300. But the"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "need for debt forgiveness has been"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "avoided by the current debt-based fiat"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "system and the uniform commercial code"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "which has been running for nearly a"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "century and it is at its end. 2025 is a"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "jubilee year and Pope Francis has called"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "on affluent countries to forgive debts"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "and to address ecological debt which"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "sounds like a carbon tax. The emerging"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "system is much more than just money. It"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "is a cataloging system where every"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "person and every piece of property can"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "be connected via a digital identity."}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "This is called tokenization and is set"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "to replace the birth certificate and"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "every other document of title in the"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "real world. Biblical prophecy Christians"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "are saying that this is the mark of the"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "beast. But there is no need for a mark"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "when facial recognition will do the job."}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "And if it comes with debt forgiveness"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "and universal basic income, then those"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "who fight against the system will be"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "seen as terrorists by the public. What's"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "going to happen is the US dollar is"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "going to be the world reserve currency"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "and it's going to run on billions and"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "billions of mobile devices and the"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "digital asset that underlines underlies"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "that currency is going to be Bitcoin."}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "Take me there."}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "Heat."}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "Hey, heat. Hey, heat."}]

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So, of course,"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "this is breaking news and this makes you"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "think uh that another attack from Israel"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "may be imminent on that very large city,"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "the city of Phoenix, about 5 million,"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "something like that. So, it's about"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "twice the size of Phoenix. Have you"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "heard any signals or seen any messages"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "from intermediaries that Iran wishes to"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "deescalate the conflict? Yeah. What have"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "you heard? What have you heard from the"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "Iranians? They'd like to talk, but they"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "should have done that before. I had 60"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "days and they had 60 days and on the"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "61st day I said we don't have a deal."}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "They have to make a deal and uh it's"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "painful for both parties but I'd say"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "Iran is not winning this war and they"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "should talk and they should talk"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "immediately before it's too late. And"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "what would you say in your opinion? What"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "would it take for the US to get involved"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "in this conflict militarily?"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "I don't want to talk about"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "and we are just getting this in and want"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "to bring it to you. It is the"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "president's latest truth social. We now"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "have complete and total control of the"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "skies over Iran. We have complete"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "control. Iran had good sky trackers and"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "other defensive equipment and plenty of"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "it. But it doesn't compare to"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "Americanmade, conceived, and"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "manufactured stuff. He says nobody does"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "it better than the good old USA. from"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "the president of the United States"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "moments ago. All eyes are on him and the"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "White House right now and what the next"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "moves in the conflict will be as it's"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "starting to escalate again and again in"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "the Middle East. New video showing a"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "series of Israeli air strikes across"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "western Iran. And perhaps that's exactly"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "what President Trump was talking about,"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "controlling that airspace. Those Israeli"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "strikes have taken out dozens of missile"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "launch sites and radars that are spread"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "across the western region there. This is"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "outnumbered. I'm Harris Falner here with"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "my co-host Kaylee Mciny and Emily Kano."}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "Also joining us today, Molly Hemingway,"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "Fox News contributor and Griff Jenkins,"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "Fox Fox News national correspondent."}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "First though, let's go to senior"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "correspondent Mike Tobin who is in Tel"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "Aviv for the latest there. Mike, just"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "reading that truth social from the"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "president talking about that control in"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "the skies now over Iran in those"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "particular areas that that we've been"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "watching."}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "And what he's talking about is the fact"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "that the Israeli fighter jets have been"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "able to do what they want in Iranian"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "airspace. They've been busy over western"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "Iran today. Uh Israel says that they"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "took out uh dozens of surfacetosurface"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "missiles. Those are the kind of things"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "that Iran has been firing here in the"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "direction of Tel Aviv and uh and greater"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "Israel. Uh they also claim that they"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "have taken out surfaceto-air missiles"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "and radar installations. Uh the Israelis"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "in line with what President Trump is"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "saying have said that they have degraded"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "the uh Iranian air defenses to such an"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "extent that they have air superiority,"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "meaning they can do whatever they want"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "in Iranian airspace. And Israel's"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "defense minister says more significant"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "targets uh in Iran will be struck today."}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "Maybe we'll learn about those in the"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "coming hours. Uh he also warned the"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "Grand Ayatollah Ali K that if he"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "continues to fire missiles at Israel, he"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "could very well meet the same fate as"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "Saddam Hussein."}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "I warn the Iranian dictator from"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "continuing to commit war crimes, firing"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "missiles at Israeli citizens. He should"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "remember what happened to the dictator"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "in the country neighboring Iran who took"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "this path against the state of Israel."}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "Now with the strikes an exodus an exodus"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "formed up and created a massive massive"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "traffic jam coming out of Thyron. Lines"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "also formed up at gas stations. And this"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "was before President Trump posted on"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "Truth Social that the people in Thran"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "need to evacuate. Iran continues to fire"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "missiles at Israel, but what we're"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "seeing, at least today, is that the size"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "and intensity of those attacks have"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "decreased dramatically. That attack just"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "a little over an hour ago may have"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "involved uh as few as two Iranian"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "missiles. The IDF says they shot one of"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "those down. Earlier this morning, we saw"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "an attack involving some 20 Iranian"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "missiles. Four of those got through and"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "hit just north of Tel Aviv, resulting in"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "no injuries. But you compare that to"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "previous days in which hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "missiles and drones were fired at"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Israel. Mike, you may know the name"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "Yadlin. He is the former Israeli uh"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "intelligence head for the military in"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "Israel. Um and what General Yadlin told"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "me last hour was that yes, they have"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "dramatically, you know, decreased the"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "number of missiles coming in. They're"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "looking for some help. It could come in"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "the form of a friend. We don't know. He"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "said they could just be resetting at"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "this point. So, they're keeping all eyes"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "to the sky. They're acting like, you"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "know, this is the conflict that it is."}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "Well, certainly. Uh but all we can go on"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "right now is what we're seeing. We saw"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "those, you know, massive missile missile"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "barges coming in in previous days, and"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "the numbers are are dramatically down"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "today, uh resulting in no injuries. And"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "uh in fact, what an Israeli military"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "official told me earlier today is that"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "the attacks just haven't been impactful."}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "All right. Well, thank goodness for"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "that. Uh Mike Tobin, thank you very"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "much. The president is back in the"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "United States after cutting short his"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "appearance at the G Summit G7 summit in"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "Canada. President Trump has told Iran to"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "tread carefully and not to lay a finger"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "on US troops or innocent civilians in"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "the Middle East. He also doubled down on"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "his belief that a nuclear Iran needs to"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "remain off the table. Trump posted this"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "on true social. We started here. Iran"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "should have signed the deal. I told them"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "to sign. What a shame and waste of human"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "life. Simply stated, Iran cannot have a"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "nuclear weapon. I said it over and over"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "again. Everyone should immediately"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "evacuate Thrron. Meanwhile, more than"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "300,000 people have been warned to"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "evacuate the capital city of Iran as"}, {"end": "00:06:40", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "Israel's operation Rising Lion only"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "intensifies at this point. Video showing"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:40", "text": "long lines of cars fleeing the city. And"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "we know that gas stations were bumper to"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "bumper as people were trying to fuel up."}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "Trump told reporters that he wants peace"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "and he wants the bloodshed on both sides"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "to cease."}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "What was the thinking on the call for"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "Tiffan and to evacuate? Is there a"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "threat or is there incoming? What was"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "the thinking? I want people to be safe"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "and that's always possible. Nothing like"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "that could happen. I just want people to"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "be safe. What specifically is better"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "than a ceasefire? What are you looking"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "for here?"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "An end a real end, not a ceasefire. An"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "end. So something that would be"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "permanent. Yeah. Or or uh giving up"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "entirely. Is that okay, too? Are you"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "closer? Is are you possible? Is that"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "possible in the next gen? Why not?"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "Certainly possible. Complete uh give up."}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "That's possible. The cities have been"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "blown to pieces. We've lost a lot of"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "people. They should have done the deal."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "I told them, \"Do the deal."}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "So, I don't know. I'm not too much into"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "negotiating."}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Mala, your reaction? Well, this is such"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "it's been such a dramatic interesting"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "couple of days here, but I think one"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "thing that was interesting was that"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "President Trump reminded people he said"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "repeatedly Iran cannot be trusted to"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "have nuclear weapons capabilities. He"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "has not been ambiguous about it. He said"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "it over and over again. And uh and I,"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "you know, I think people are pretty"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "happy with how things are going thus"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "far. They're also understandably worried"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "about this becoming yet another regime"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "change war in the Middle East, which"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "nobody voted for. But it's why it's good"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "to hear what the president has to say"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "and and he seems to be he he's earned a"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "bit of credibility because of how he's"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "handled so many conflicts in the past."}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "And so I think that's why so many"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "Americans are feeling okay about it. And"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "to the point that you're making, the"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "vice president JD Vance uh posted this"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "just a very few minutes ago. It's a"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "lengthy post and Griffal just drilled"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "down on it. that decision what you're"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "talking about whether or not we would"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "get involved with with Israel ultimately"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "belongs to the president and of course"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "people are right to be worried about"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "foreign engagement after the last 25"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "years of idiotic foreign policy but I"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "believe the president has earned some of"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "the trust on this issue just what you"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "were saying credibility but I believe"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "the president has earned that and having"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "seen this up close and personal I can"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "assure you that he is only interested in"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "using the American military to"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "accomplish American people's goals"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "whatever he status is focus group. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "And that last point I think is really"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "important because while we're hearing in"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "the Israeli media that regime t regime"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "change may be on the table. Obviously"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "the ayatollah is thinking well wait a"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "minute if it's existential for my future"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "then maybe I've got to get to the"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "negotiating table and do a deal. But"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "President Trump the tell is where Mali"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "puts it. No matter what, Iran can't have"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "a nuke. And we know in that one site,"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "Fordo, where they have uranium under a"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "mountain, there's only one weapon that"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "can do it. It's a massive ordinance"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "penetrator, the GBU57."}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "It's a 30,000lb bomb that could take"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "that out. The Israelis don't have it,"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "and they don't have the planes that can"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "fly it. Only B2 bombers can fly that and"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "carry a bomb that big. And so that would"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "mean American pilots flying American"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "planes with American bombs. That's the"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "stakes in what I think Politico is"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "right. This is a moment of truth for"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "President Trump. Ultimately, I think the"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "president wants to see simply Iran"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "without a nuke and some peace come. But"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "the fact that we now know through Mike's"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "great reporting that Israel has air"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "superiority over Iran, it's really boxed"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "KA in uh to really make some tough"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "decisions. Yeah. And the president"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "putting that out on his truth social as"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "we were coming to air too that they've"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "got that air superiority. Uh Kayla,"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "you've been with this president in his"}, {"end": "00:10:30", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "first term when he was making decisively"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "um moves and and military in mind. What"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:30", "text": "do you make of the moment that we're in"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "right now? We're in a moment where very"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "big decisions are a foot. You can read"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "that in his tweets that you just"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "displayed. Big world changing,"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "lifechanging, once in a generation"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "decisions are being made in the"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "situation room as we speak. And I think"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "it's very important to say that America"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "first does not mean let's be Neville"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "Chamberlain. America first sometimes"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "means acting with strength on behalf of"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "American interests. And when you look at"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "what we've gotten in talking to Iran,"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "not for 60 days. We've talked to Iran"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "for nearly five decades, nearly half a"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "century, right? Guess what that has"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "gotten us? Talking to Iran has gotten us"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "American hostages, some of whom have"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "been killed. Talking to Iran got a 609"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "dead American troops at the hands of"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "Iranian proxies in Iraq. Talking to Iran"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "got chance of death to America. Talking"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "to Iran got an assassination an"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "assassination threat against President"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "Trump. Trump doesn't talk. He's a man of"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "action. Biden talks. Biden says don't."}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "And what did get us? It got us two"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "global wars and it got us the fall of a"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "country. President Trump, who I had the"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "pleasure of seeing make these decisions"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "in real time, acted. He killed Sol S"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "Solommani. People said that was"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "audacious. He killed Albaghdaddy. He"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "went into Syria when it necessitated it"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "and they used chemical weapons. He is a"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "man of action. He has earned the trust"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "of the American people. Millions of"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "people are behind him and it may mean"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "acting to take out that Forjo nuclear"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "site and he has earned the trust of the"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "American people as JD Vance underscored."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "So you and Molly making this point."}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "Trust and credibility President Trump"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "has on this issue. Emily. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "interestingly, you know, there's a group"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "of voices right now, especially among"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "the Conservative party that's"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "highlighting the fact that this"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "president campaigned on peace. And they"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "say, well, this would be anything but,"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "right? This all of these other prior"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "wars started easily, but then they ended"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "up being endless and is this what's"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "going to happen now? But the president"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "has himself made the point that you just"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "did, Kaylee, which is inaction does not"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "necessarily mean protecting and"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "prioritizing American interests. And"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "sometimes the way to preserve peace"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "through strength is to take some action"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "that will then protect as an investment"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "American interests and our allied"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "interests. And it's like Mark Leven said"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "earlier, right? Isolationism is not the"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "right thing to do because that allows"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "them to continue festering. And I know"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "Michael Orin, the Israeli former"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "ambassador to the United States. He said"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "the opportunity right now for President"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "Trump to be the peacemaker of the"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "century. He said was profound. He said,"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "\"Up until now, presidents, US presidents"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "and more have tried to curb uh Iran's"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "nuclear capability. Here, finally, we"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "have a commander-in-chief who will not"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "only curb but eradicate their nuclear"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "potentials.\" And he said, \"Up until now,"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "people talk euphemistically about Iran's"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "benign, I mean, malign behavior.\" Right?"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "They are the world's foremost state"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "sponsor of terrorism. When will this"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "end? But for the potential we have now,"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "um, and I think it's bears worth"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "repeating as well. the sovereignty of"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "the neighboring countries, their silence"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "right now, many who have been up until"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "now anti-Israel and anti-semitic that"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "are now quiet because they are relieved"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "and they are hopeful at the potential"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "for Iran to not only have their nuclear"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "program ended, but for potentially the"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "failure of the Islamic Republic"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "supported by Iran's youth and more. That"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "would be again the peacemaking deal of"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "the century."}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "It's also true though. I think it needs"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "to be reminded that these things can"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "quickly spiral out of control and regime"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "change is incredibly destabilizing. A"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "regime change in Iran would make Iraq"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "and Afghanistan look like a cakewalk and"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "the American people are not getting over"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "that and they do not want to get"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "embroiled and so you have to be cautious"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "and prudent as well. You know, as you"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "bring that up, I I appreciate VP Vance's"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "social media and the president so much"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "more just giving us an inside view of"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "this because mission creep is what"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "you're talking about. We go in with one"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "indication of mission and then we just"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "creep our way away from it for years and"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "the American public will say no to that."}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "Can I just add one last thing and that"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "is Kaylee was talking about Biden. You"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "know, take stock. It was June of last"}, {"end": "00:14:44", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "year that President Biden was at the G7"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "in Italy and he wandered off into a"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:44", "text": "field. Now we have President Trump who"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "is leaving the G7 early with the weight"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "of the world and the safety and security"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "of the world on his shoulders."}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "Definitely not lost in the jungle. Three"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "American troops killed in Jordan at the"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "hands of Iran because of words instead"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "of action under Biden. That was last"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "year."}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "No use. I will never dream of your love"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "to take me there. Take me there."}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "Heat. Heat."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "admitted by his actions and some of his"}, {"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "words that we were in on this from the"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "very beginning. Uh and this is this is"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "really disturbing because from this"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "point forward, I don't think anything we"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "say, anything this government says is"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "going to be taken seriously by anyone in"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "Moscow or Beijing or Tyrron or Ankura or"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "anywhere else. And that's the worst part"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "because clearly he helped to lull the"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "Iranians into a false sense of security"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "and set them up for for this disastrous"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "uh attack. So that's one thing. The"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "other thing is that short run"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "everybody's running around in Israel and"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "declaring victory. Israel supporters I"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "should say their paid agents in the"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "United States are supporting uh or are"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "you know telling everybody how happy"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "they are. But in truth, this looks an"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "awful lot like uh an Iranian Pearl"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "Harbor to me. And nobody here today"}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "remembers. I I was born shortly"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "afterwards in 1953. But the Japanese"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "attacked Pearl Harbor. They sank some"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "ships and then they too celebrated and"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "sailed home. It didn't work out very"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "well for them. And I think the Israelis"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "are in a similar position. The Japanese"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "could have landed and seized those"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "Hawaiian islands and then it would have"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "been hell for us to get them back. would"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "have taken at least two years. Who knows"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "what might have happened. Fortunately,"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "they didn't do that. The difference is"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "that Iran or excuse me, Israel cannot"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "consolidate its victory over Iran, but"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "they're assuming that they'll have help"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "from us, that we will jump in with both"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "feet and rescue them. In the meantime,"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "the Iranians are firing all of their"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "older missiles. And by older missiles, I"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "mean old technology. And the old"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "technology is being shot down, which is"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "the goal. They want the Israelis to"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "waste all of their inventory on these"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "old missiles before they start using the"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "really high-end devastating material."}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "So, I think this is just the beginning."}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "The other part of this is that we're now"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "going to see the rest of the world sort"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "of link arms around Iran because if"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "you're sitting in Moscow or Beijing or"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "Anker or anywhere else and you see"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "what's happening to Iran, you say,"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "\"Well, look, if we don't stand by these"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "people, inevitably we'll be next. you"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "know, we're we'll just be one uh one"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "more dead name on the list like"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "Quaddafi. So, I think all in all, this"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "is a catastrophe for Israel, but in the"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "meantime, it looks wonderful for Israel,"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "or at least that's what their uh their"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "supporters and agents in the United"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "States want everybody to think. Now, I"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "think that there will be people who say,"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "\"Look, you supported Trump and this is"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "happening.\" What I would say to that is"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "we were speaking out against the war"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "machine that was the Democrats and Trump"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "was the only space between full-on war"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "that the Democrats the Democrats were"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "not going to stop Israel from doing"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "this. It might have happened 6 weeks ago"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "if they were in power. But I do feel"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "like this is a betrayal of Donald Trump."}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "This is something that Tucker had said."}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "It would be a major betrayal of his"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "supporters. And so would Trump have"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "played BB's game knowing that we trusted"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "him?"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "Yes. Uh he would not be in the White"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "House today if it were not for wealthy"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "billionaires that support Israel and"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "support BB Netanyahu who funded his"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "campaign and put him into the White"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "House. I think he knew from the"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "beginning that once he saddled up with"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "the likes of Miriam add a whole range of"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "others that fall into that category that"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "he was going to have to do their"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "bidding. Remember he's been down this"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "road before in 2019 in June we came"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "close to doing something very stupid"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "with Iran and Donald Trump said no. He"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "walked away from it. This was the global"}, {"end": "00:03:56", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "hulk that was shot down on the edge of"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "the air defense zone in Iran. Well, he"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:56", "text": "was still a free agent. I don't think he"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "is anymore. I think he's entirely"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "dependent on the lobby as well as on the"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "usual class of suspects. I mean, I I'm"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "tired of this Republican versus Democrat"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "bit, Natalie. I just think it's a uni"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "party. We need to come to terms with the"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "reality. We're not represented."}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "Yeah."}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "Yeah. You know, I mean, not to talk"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "about like our like personal lives or"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "anything, but it was, you know, up late"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "last night, very difficult time"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "sleeping. uh you know Natalie having"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "trouble sleeping. You you thinking about"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "how is this going to affect the United"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "States of America? I I don't see in any"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "way maybe you could explain to me how"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "exactly any of this benefits the United"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "States of America. I want to put up a"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "slate here. I think Philip if we have"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "this this is a slate of all of these"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "senators."}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "Look at this and members of Congress."}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "All of these people almost immediately"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "we stand with Israel. We stand with"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "Israel. We're praying for Israel. Join"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "me in praying for Israel. These are all"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "members of Congress. Senator Katie Boyd,"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "uh, Representative Daryl Isa, every one"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "of them lock stop lock in lock step,"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "praising Israel, God's chosen people."}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "Glenn Beck tweets, uh, you know, we're"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "praying for praying for Israel. On and"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "on and on the list goes. So, how is this"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "going to affect the United States of"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "America? Of course, looking towards"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "tomorrow when we're hearing about"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "there's Iranian sleeper cells. I'm just"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "worried about false flag attacks."}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "My wife is worried about young men being"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "drafted into war to fight in this"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "boondoggle of a war. What do you think"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "we're going to see? I I think the first"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "thing we do have to consider very"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "carefully is that whenever you have"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "these kinds of crises, there's almost an"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "immediate alliance overnight between"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "criminality,"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "uh, ideologues,"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "terrorists,"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "and corruption. They they all tend to"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "cooperate very effectively. Many years"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "ago, people were shocked to discover"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "that Islamist terrorists were"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "cooperating with members of the IRA in"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "order to achieve their aims. This is"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "back in the 90s. Well, that's what"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "you're going to see happen here in the"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "United States. Remember, we've got what,"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "probably 30 million people came into the"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "United States under the last"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "administration about whom we know"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "absolutely nothing. Uh we we have no"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "idea what they think, where they've come"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "from. We don't even know where most of"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "them are. You've heard Tulsi Gabbard"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "make that statement publicly. And she's"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "also pointed out that we see a lot of"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "evidence in Mexico and in the United"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "States that these groups of people that"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "came in illegally are using tactics"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "reminiscent of what we saw in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "East when we had troops on the ground in"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "Iraq and Afghanistan. So, I think we"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "have to bet that we're going to see"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "trouble. Just look at Los Angeles. Los"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "Angeles has an estimated 1.2 million"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "illegals in it. Now add to that that"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "particular fire the drug cartels,"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "Islamist terrorists or Islamist"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "sympathizers and people who may just be"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "disgruntled. You know, somebody who"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "stands on the sidewalk and you hand him"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "a $50 bill and said, \"By the way, here's"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "a Molotov cocktail. Go around the corner"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "and throw it at the police.\" Th this is"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "what we're dealing with at every level."}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "We have nuclear power uh generation"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "systems. We have power grids all over"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "the country. You know, along with"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "shopping malls, we have military"}, {"end": "00:07:23", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "installations in many states that are"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "not really that secure, that are not"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:23", "text": "heavily guarded."}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "Anything is possible. And I see almost"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "no good news on the horizon. And I do"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "worry about the parade tomorrow. And I"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "was in the army for most of my adult"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "life. I love the army. And I'm glad that"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "people are recognizing it's 250 years"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "since the army was first formed. But"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "this does worry the hell out of me"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "because nobody in that parade is"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "interested in harming anyone. They are"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "simply marching as part of the tribute"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "to this 250 year history. But I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "know what's going to happen."}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "You know, if past prologue, what will"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "happen is that some someone like me will"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "pick up a book in 20 years and say, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "that was all a lie. That's me reading"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Scott Horton's book and saying, \"Gosh, I"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "you know, but we have a voice that we"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "didn't have before.\" Um, I see now I I"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "am so mad watching Fox News saying I saw"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "I'll share this with you. I was watching"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "Peter Ducey. Peter Ducey said, \"I'm I'm"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "on the White House lawn. I will tell you"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "this that Trump has said many times that"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "the war in Ukraine is not our war and"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "the war in Gaza is not our war.\" And"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "Hannity goes, \"Bye, Peter. Bye. Cut him"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "off because there was this indication"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "that maybe Trump doesn't want these"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "wars.\" And they cut him off. And it's"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "fullon that this was justified. And so"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "now we see no space between the leftist"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "and the right media at all. It's a war"}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "to sell. But we have independent media."}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "So is there any kind of seed there that"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "can make this different? Well, I think"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "you have chaos media. Uh, in other"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "words, lots of different places, but"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "they all tend to pedal the same"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "narrative. I I can turn on MSNBC and"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "hear what you hear on Fox these days."}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "Uh, I think you and people like you"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "represent the alternative."}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "What we don't have are big powerful"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "platforms that are adequately funded."}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "You know, where are the billionaires"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "that actually care about the country?"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "We've got lots of billionaires who are"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "hopelessly devoted to Israel and devoted"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "to this idea that the world is a better"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "place when we're bombing people"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "everywhere. Those people are willing to"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "spend their money to control the"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "narrative and to disseminate what they"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "want. We need people who who are simply"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "interested in the truth. You know, we"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "don't have what I would call authority"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "media. you used to be able to turn on"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "the television during the Vietnam War"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "and when Walter Kankite came on in 1968"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "and he said or ' 69 after the Ted"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "offensive he said you know it's time for"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "us to get out of Vietnam this isn't"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "working it doesn't make sense people are"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "dying pointlessly it's time for the"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "government to find a way out well"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "everybody believed him because he was"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "truthful we didn't expect him to lie to"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "us about anything and he didn't have we"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "got now we've got you Natalie and we've"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "got a lot of other good people. Uh but"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "we don't have the power behind you."}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "Redacted needs more than you know the"}, {"end": "00:10:28", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "sampling that you and we're shadowbanned"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "in a lot of platforms and then we get"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:28", "text": "Yeah. Um"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "yeah, it's deeply disturbing. Um"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "Colonel, because of your military"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "expertise, I want to ask you now in Tel"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "Aviv. So Glenn Greenwald moments ago"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "posting this 20 uh 20 uh1 New York Times"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "piece about the new IDF Supreme Command"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "post which is in the heart of Tel Aviv."}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "And they built this massive bunker"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "system for the IDF. And they"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "specifically built it beneath civilian"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "buildings in Tel Aviv. They call it"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "Fortress of Zion. And it was of course"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "deliberately placed there to be so it"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "couldn't be attacked without seemingly"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "hitting civilian sites."}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "Uh so what do you where do you see"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "Iran's targets? Are we going to see a"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "lot of civilian infrastructure struck,"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "mostly military targets, and then will"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "Iran over 24 hours say, \"Okay, we're"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "done now. Let's let cooler heads"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "prevail. Let's go back to the nuclear"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "negotiating table.\" We seen moments ago"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "hypersonic missile attacks inside of"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "inside of Tel Aviv. And they can't stop"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "it with this iron dome. So maybe you"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "could just talk militarily, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "tactically and strategically here for"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "Iran. Well, Iran first of all has an"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "almost inexhaustible supply of missiles"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "and they have alternative sources. They"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "can not only build their own missiles,"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "they can get additional components and"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "warheads from other sources, whether"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "those sources are North Korea, China,"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "Russia, uh as I said before, potentially"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "even Pakistan. And now the Turks are"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "coming online and saying that they"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "support Iran. and I'm sure that there"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "are others. So, I think there won't be a"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "shortage of things for the Iranians to"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "fight back with. The real question now"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "is what do we do? And I think President"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "Trump is already signaling that he'd"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "like to go back to the negotiating"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "table. The problem is that no one"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "believes him. He's destroyed his"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "credibility. I don't think anybody's"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "going to show up to negotiate with him"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "about anything. So, I think this is"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "going to go on and it'll get worse the"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "longer it lasts and eventually you reach"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "the nuclear threshold. That's what's"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "always worried me because as the"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "Israelis become more and more desperate"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "and realize just what a terrible"}, {"end": "00:12:43", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "position they are in, that's when they"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "threaten the use of a nuclear weapon."}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:43", "text": "Now, the danger of course is that by"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "that time others will have provided"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "nuclear weapons for use against them. In"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "other words, unless there is some sort"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "of miraculous come to Jesus moment in"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "Israel, and I don't think it's going to"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "happen there, uh this is going to reach"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "a a climax. And the climax is not good"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "for Israel. It's going to be disastrous"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "for the Middle East, disastrous for the"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "world, but it may be unavoidable. Now,"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "you know, the Israelis are operating"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "on a on a degree of self-"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "congratulation,"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "self-importance,"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "self-love that uh you can't even begin"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "to imagine. And you just pointed out a"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "good example of where their thinking"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "lies. If if they're going to be"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "defeated, then I think their attitude is"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "we'll pull the plug on everybody and"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "kill everything. And that's a"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "catastrophe, too."}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "I"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "I don't know what to say about that. I"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "Well, I'm just projecting the future"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "right now. I I don't know what's going"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "to happen. U But the Iranians, contrary"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "to popular belief, whatever mistakes"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "they've made, and I don't think they've"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "made very many. I mean, everybody says,"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "\"Well, they should have given up"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "enrichment.\""}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "Not really. That's a sovereign right."}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "And enriching uranium for purposes other"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "than military uh is is totally"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "legitimate. Lots of countries have it."}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "lots of countries do it. Uh the Indians"}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "and the Pakistanis both have nuclear"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "weapons. They're too smart to use those"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "things against each other. So in a in a"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "sort of perverse kind of way, there's"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "been a mutual balance of terror there"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "that has helped to preserve some degree"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "of peace. The problem we have right now"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "in the region is you got one country"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "that has nuclear weapons. They want to"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "maintain that monopoly and they're"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "willing to do anything against anyone to"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "keep it. And that's where we are. and we"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "unfortunately have encouraged it and"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "underwritten it. Now, could this affect"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "us here at home? Could people become so"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "frustrated with us that ultimately they"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "just attack us as well? I think we're"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "going to see that in the region. It"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "could actually spread to Europe because"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "we have military installations there"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "that the Iranians and others in the"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "Middle East could attack. But it could"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "also happen to us here in the United"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "States. Remember, the southern border,"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "Mexico, is America's soft underbelly."}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "In other words, it's the place you go"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "for strategic advantage against us"}, {"end": "00:15:17", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "because it forces us to fight on"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "multiple fronts. We're not prepared for"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "that in Mexico, but it could happen."}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "Yeah. Militarily, I mean, did you guys"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "prepare for when someone would hit"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "nuclear facilities? So we now have"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "confirmation from the Iranian side."}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "Well, you know, the the Israeli side of"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "course told us that Natan's nuclear"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "facility in Iran was destroyed. Iran is"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "now saying there is radiation,"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "radiological dispersement"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "and they're trying to contain it. So"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "radiation is now escaping from this and"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "I don't know how many other facilities."}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "I mean, are we talk I mean, what are we"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "talking about here, Colonel? I mean,"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "well, you could nuclear fallout, nuclear"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "fallout across that will also bleed into"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "Qatar, which has been trying to mediate"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "our peace talks, which was supposedly an"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "ally. Well, Natans, of course, uh is a"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "facility that was not very deeply dug"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "in. It's also a smaller facility. That"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "doesn't mean it's any less disturbing"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "what you're describing. and Iranians are"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "talking about evacuating up to a million"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "people uh to get them away from the the"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "Natan's facility. I don't see any"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "evidence that the Israelis care at all"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "about that. In fact, they may be"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "celebrating it and that's part of No, in"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "fact, the Zionist line is, \"We love the"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "Iranian people. We're only against the"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "regime. We want to free you in fact from"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "life with cancer.\" Yeah. Right. Well, I"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "wouldn't place too much uh value on that"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "uh statement. I don't think the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "care, the Israelis care at all. In fact,"}, {"end": "00:16:57", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "their real goal has always been the"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "destruction of the Iranian state because"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:57", "text": "they equate the Iranian state with their"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "existential threat. That to them, that's"}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "the ultimate threat. And I was over"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "there in 2020 and I told them that I"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "didn't agree with that. that I thought"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "of all the various Muslim states they"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "were dealing with, the Iranians were the"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "most amanable to negotiations."}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "But I think the Iranians have taken a"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "position either you do what we say or"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "you have to die. Now they're facing the"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "Turks. And the Turks, in my judgment,"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "are infinitely more dangerous in the"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "long run to Israel than the Iranians"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "ever were because the Iranians aren't"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "going to invade anybody. The Iranians"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "don't want to project power anywhere."}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "The Iranians aren't building bases"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "around the world. The Turks on the other"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "hand, they can project power. They have"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "the largest army in NATO and overnight"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "they can mobilize over a million troops"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "and put them into the field and they are"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "within striking distance of Israel. And"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "when you get that close to Israel, can"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "you use a nuclear weapon right on your"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "border against the Turks? I don't think"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "so. Because then you put your own"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "population in the position where the"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "Iranians are now with the tons. I just"}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "don't think the Israelis have thought"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "this through carefully for all their uh"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "self uh self-love and claim of"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "intellectual superiority or supremacy"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "and they are very intelligent, skilled"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "and talented people. I don't think"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "they've thought it all through. I think"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "the danger now is greater than it's ever"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "been. I don't see how you end this"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "without fundamentally destroying Israel."}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "That's that's the the biggest and the"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "dumbest aspect of this whole thing that"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "the Israeli state itself stands an"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "excellent chance of not surviving this."}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "Some people in our chat are saying, you"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "know, Trump is a traitor, treasonous."}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "Others are saying Trump tried to stop"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "all of this and that he didn't, you"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "know, he that he didn't know any of this"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "was going to happen, that Trump was"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "really trying to push us towards peace."}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "He didn't know what was going to happen."}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "That he's the arbiter of peace here. Uh"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "I I don't know that I believe I mean for"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "months this has been planned. I don't I"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "don't I don't buy that for a second that"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "the Trump administration wasn't in on"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "this or worked part and parcel with"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "them. We just got word a few minutes ago"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "that US Navy is now trying shooting down"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "Iranian missiles. Um so the the US Navy"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "is actively involved in this right now."}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "Of course they have to be. These are"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "Aegis class destroyers. They have a role"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "to play. I'm sure before long we'll see"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "lots and lots and lots of troops show"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "up. Now, when I say troops, I'm talking"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "about combatants that sea vessels,"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "submarines, and by the way, I would"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "fully expect to see the Russians show up"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "with their submarines, the Chinese with"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "their submarines. I would watch"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "carefully what happens in the street of"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "Hormuz. Look at what's happening right"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "now with the price of oil. And that's"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "the tip of the proverbial iceberg. I"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "mean, inflation is going to skyrocket."}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "In other words, whatever Trump was"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "trying to do that made sense could"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "easily be be destroyed by all of this."}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "No use. I will never dream of your love"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "to take me there. You take me there."}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "Hey."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Uh first of all, President Trump,"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "whether he admits to it or not, has made"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "us a co-elligerent. Uh he's essentially"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "admitted by his actions and some of his"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "words that we were in on this from the"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "very beginning. Uh, and this is this is"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "really disturbing because from this"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "point forward, I don't think anything we"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "say, anything this government says is"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "going to be taken seriously by anyone in"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "Moscow or Beijing or Thrron or Ankura or"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "anywhere else. And that's the worst part"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "because clearly he helped to lull the"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "Iranians into a false sense of security"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "and set them up for for this disastrous"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "uh attack. So that's one thing. So the"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "other thing is that shortrun everybody's"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "running around in Israel and declaring"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "victory. Israel's supporters I should"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "say their paid agents in the United"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "States are supporting uh or are you know"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "telling everybody how happy they are."}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "But in truth this looks an awful lot"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "like uh an Iranian Pearl Harbor to me."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "And nobody here today remembers I I was"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "born shortly afterwards in 1953. But the"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. They"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "sank some ships and then they too"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "celebrated and sailed home. It didn't"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "work out very well for them and I think"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "the Israelis are in a similar position."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "The Japanese could have landed and"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "seized those Hawaiian islands and then"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "it would have been hell for us to get"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "them back. It would have taken at least"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "2 years. Who knows what might have"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "happened. Fortunately, they didn't do"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "that. The difference is that Iran or"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "excuse me, Israel cannot consolidate its"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "victory over Iran. But they're assuming"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "that they'll have help from us, that we"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "will jump in with both feet and rescue"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "them. In the meantime, the Iranians are"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "firing all of their older missiles. And"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "by older missiles, I mean old"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "technology. And the old technology is"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "being shot down, which is the goal. They"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "want the Israelis to waste all of their"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "inventory on these old missiles before"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "they start using the really high-end,"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "devastating material. So, I think this"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "is just the beginning. The other part of"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "this is that we're now going to see the"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "rest of the world sort of link arms"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "around Iran because if you're sitting in"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "Moscow or Beijing or an or anywhere else"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "and you see what's happening to Iran,"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "you say, \"Well, look, if we don't stand"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "by these people, inevitably we'll be"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "next. You know, we're we'll just be one"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "uh one more dead name on the list like"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "Quaddafi.\" So, I think all in all, this"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "is a catastrophe for Israel. But in the"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "meantime, it looks wonderful for Israel."}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "Or at least that's what their uh their"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "supporters and agents in the United"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "States want everybody to think. Uh he"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "would not be in the White House today if"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "it were not for wealthy billionaires"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "that support Israel and support BB"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "Netanyahu who funded his campaign and"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "put him into the White House. I think he"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "knew from the beginning that once he"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "saddled up with the likes of Miriam add"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "a whole range of others that fall into"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "that category that he was going to have"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "to do their bidding. Remember he's been"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "down this road before in 2019 in June we"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "came close to doing something very"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "stupid with Iran and Donald Trump said"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "no. He walked away from it. This was the"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "global hawk that was shot down on the"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "edge of the air defense zone in Iran."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "Well, he was still a free agent. I don't"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "think he is anymore. I think he's"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "entirely dependent on the lobby. I just"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "think it's a uni party. We need to come"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "to terms with the reality we're not"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "represented. I I think the first thing"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "we do have to consider very carefully is"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "that whenever you have these kinds of"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "crises, there's almost an immediate"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "alliance overnight between criminality,"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "uh, ideologues,"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "terrorists, uh, and corruption. They"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "they all tend to cooperate very"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "effectively. Many years ago, people were"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "shocked to discover that Islamist"}, {"end": "00:03:59", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "terrorists were cooperating with members"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "of the IRA in order to achieve their"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:59", "text": "aims. This is back in the 90s. Well,"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "that's what you're going to see happen"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "here in the United States. Remember,"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "we've got what probably 30 million"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "people came into the United States under"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "the last administration about whom we"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "know absolutely nothing. Uh we we have"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "no idea what they think, where they've"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "come from. We don't even know where most"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "of them are. You've heard Tulsi Gabbard"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "make that statement publicly. And she's"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "also pointed out that we see a lot of"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "evidence in Mexico and in the United"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "States that these groups of people that"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "came in illegally are using tactics"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "reminiscent of what we saw in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "East when we had troops on the ground in"}, {"end": "00:04:40", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "Iraq and Afghanistan. So, I think we"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "have to bet that we're going to see"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:40", "text": "trouble. Just look at Los Angeles. Los"}, {"end": "00:04:49", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "Angeles has an estimated 1.2 million"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "illegals in it. Now add to that that"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:49", "text": "particular fire the drug cartels,"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "Islamist terrorists or Islamist"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "sympathizers and people who may just be"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "disgruntled. You know, somebody who"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "stands on the sidewalk and you hand him"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "a $50 bill and said, \"By the way, here's"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "a Molotov cocktail. Go around the corner"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "and throw it at the police.\" Th this is"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "what we're dealing with at every level."}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "We have nuclear power uh generation"}, {"end": "00:05:17", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "systems. We have power grids all over"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "the country, you know, along with"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:17", "text": "shopping malls. We have military"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "installations in many states that are"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "not really that secure, that are not"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "heavily guarded."}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "Anything is possible. And I see almost"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "no good news on the horizon. And I do"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "worry about the parade tomorrow. And I"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "was in the army for most of my adult"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "life. I love the army. And I'm glad that"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "people are recognizing it's 250 years"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "since the army was first formed. But"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "this does worry the hell out of me"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "because nobody in that parade is"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "interested in harming anyone. They are"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "simply marching as part of the tribute"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "to this 250 year history. But I don't"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "know what's going to happen. What we"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "don't have are big powerful platforms"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "that are adequately funded. You know,"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "where are the billionaires that actually"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "care about the country? We've got lots"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "of billionaires who are hopelessly"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "devoted to Israel and devoted to this"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "idea that the world is a better place"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "when we're bombing people everywhere."}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "Those people are willing to spend their"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "money to control the narrative and to"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "disseminate what they want. We need"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "people who who are simply interested in"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "the truth. You know, we don't have what"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "I would call authority media. you used"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "to be able to turn on the television"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "during the Vietnam War and when Walter"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "Kankite came on in 1968 and he said or '"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "69 after the Ted offensive he said you"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "know it's time for us to get out of"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "Vietnam this isn't working it doesn't"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:38", "text": "make sense people are dying pointlessly"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "it's time for the government to find a"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "way out well everybody believed him"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "because he was truthful we didn't expect"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "him to lie to us about anything and he"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "didn't have we got now we've got you"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "Natalie and we've got a lot of other"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "good people. Uh but we don't have the"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "power behind you. Well, Iran, first of"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "all, has an almost inexhaustible supply"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "of missiles and they have alternative"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "sources. They can not only build their"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "own missiles, they can get additional"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "components and warheads from other"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "sources, whether those sources are North"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "Korea, China, Russia, uh as I said"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "before, potentially even Pakistan. And"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "now the Turks are coming online and"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "saying that they support Iran. and I'm"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "sure that there are others. So, I think"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "there won't be a shortage of things for"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "the Iranians to fight back with. The"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "real question now is what do we do? And"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "I think President Trump is already"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "signaling that he'd like to go back to"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "the negotiating table. The problem is"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "that no one believes him. He's destroyed"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "his credibility. I don't think anybody's"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "going to show up to negotiate with him"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "about anything. So, I think this is"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "going to go on and it'll get worse the"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "longer it lasts and eventually you reach"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "the nuclear threshold. That's what's"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "always worried me because as the"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "Israelis become more and more desperate"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "and realize just what a terrible"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "position they are in, that's when they"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "threaten the use of a nuclear weapon."}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "Now, the danger of course is that by"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "that time others will have provided"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "nuclear weapons for use against them. In"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "other words, unless there is some sort"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "of miraculous come to Jesus moment in"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "Israel, and I don't think it's going to"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "happen there, uh this is going to reach"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "a a climax. And the climax is not good"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "for Israel. It's going to be disastrous"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "for the Middle East, disastrous for the"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "world, but it may be unavoidable. Now,"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "you know, the Israelis are operating"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "on a on a degree of self-"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "congratulation,"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "self-importance,"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "self-love that uh you can't even begin"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "to imagine. And you just pointed out a"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "good example of where their thinking"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "lies. If if they're going to be"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "defeated, then I think their attitude is"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "we'll pull the plug on everybody and"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "kill everything. And that's a"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "catastrophe, too. And this is very"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "important to understand. Most Europeans"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "cannot grasp this and they need to get"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "this. There is no strategy. No. Uh the"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "only thing that people want to do in"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "Washington is to hold on to what exists."}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "In other words, they are clinging"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "tenaciously to the status quo even"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "though everybody privately knows we"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "can't afford it. We can't maintain it."}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "We can't sustain it. You know, it's it's"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "kind of funny. People talk about a"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "trillion dollar defense budget, but at"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "the same time, everybody sees what's"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "happening in Japan"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "and the collapse of the bond market."}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "That's going to happen here. We're at"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "roughly 4.5% on 10-year treasuries."}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "Each each month, this goes up a few"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "points. At some point, it's going to"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "rise quickly in a way that we cannot"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "possibly imagine today, but it will"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "because we no longer have control. You"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "can you can cut the interest rates and"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "the yield for treasury bonds goes up"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "anyway because people don't want to"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "invest in us. We have been selling"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "two-year treasuries. Even that is now"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "going to become a problem. Nobody wants"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "to buy the 30 years anymore. And now we"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "have the Japanese who told us, look,"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "we're in a lot of trouble. Uh no no hard"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "feelings, but we're going to dump your"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "treasuries. We're going to get rid of"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "them. They're not worth anything. The"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "Chinese are going to do it. And they've"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "they are the last ones. People don't"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "understand this. Chinese don't want to"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "become the reserve currency. They're"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "very happy to let us do it. They always"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "have been. This is another myth. The"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "evil China that wants to conquer the"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "world and rule Asia. You know, if the"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "Chinese truly wanted to rule Asia,"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "there's an organization. It's called"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "Tokyo. They'd have something to say"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "about it. It's not going to happen. And"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "the Vietnamese would never tolerate it"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "either. And the last time the Chinese"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "challenged the Vietnamese, that was a"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "very unsatisfactory outcome. Look, we're"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "we're living in on fantasy island in"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "Washington. Washington DC is fantasy"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "island. We can't afford any of it. We'd"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "spend ourselves into oblivion. We're"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "headed into a severe recession that"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "could become a depression, particularly"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "if we end up in a war in the Middle"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "East, which we haven't talked about."}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "That would trigger catastrophe over"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "here. uh we continue to lose control of"}, {"end": "00:11:23", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "industries. We just sold the the last"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "semblance of national power in the form"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:23", "text": "of uh United States steel to Japan. I"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "mean it nobody nobody that I knew when I"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "was living in the 50s and 60s if I told"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "them the Japanese are going to going to"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "buy US steel people would say it's"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "impossible. You've lost your mind. We we"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "are in bad shape Pascal. That's the"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "truth. When the debt to GDP ratio in"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "Great Britain was 240%."}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes."}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "The British Empire was forced to scale"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "back when debt made their global reach"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "impossible to maintain. We're not far"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "from that crossroads ourselves. And this"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "time, the consequences may be even"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "sharper. Now remember, if you go back to"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "the 30s and you look at the British"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "General Staff Journal and the"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "discussions that were held with"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "politicians, what was the number one"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "priority for the British? Was it"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "defending France against the Germans?"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "Oh, it was the empire and it was India."}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "And in fact, there was tremendous"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "resistance to what Churchill wanted to"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "do because they kept pointing to Stalin"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "and the Soviets and say, \"That's the"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "real enemy. you what are you doing"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "there? We're not going to benefit from"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "destroying uh the Nazi regime if it's"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "replaced by the Soviets. Well, we all"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "know the rest of the story. In the"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "meantime, everything that they insisted"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "they were fighting for, what happened to"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "it? It went away. When things get bad"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "here, the first thing we will do is cut"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "forces overseas and bring them home."}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "their intention to withdraw 5,000 troops"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "from the Korean Peninsula. Right"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "now, we've kept all these forces in"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "Korea and Japan because of the imminent"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "threat from China. All of a sudden, we"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "say, \"Well, well, we don't need to do"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "that.\""}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "The problem is the problem is what I'm"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "trying to get across is there is no"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "strategy. First of all, before you"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "withdraw troops, you sit down with your"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "lies and you come up with a plan to"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "withdraw. you you be honest and"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "straightforward and say, \"Look, we can't"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "stay here in the in the numbers we have."}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "We have to cut costs. We're going to"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "have to make withdrawals.\" And you work"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "it out. You should work it out with the"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "Germans, with the Italians. You"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "mentioned the Swedes and the Fins that"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "have have apparently bet the farm on the"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "arrival of US forces, which is sheer"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "lunacy. But but the point is, I don't"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "see any strategy. No one is in Tokyo or"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Seoul in saying, \"Look, we want to"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "coordinate these withdrawals. We're just"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "going to start leaving and we're going"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "to try and do it in the dead of night."}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "We're down to roughly 23,000 in the army"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "and another 6,000 or so navy and air"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "force. It's a very small contingent. We"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "are no longer on the border between the"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "two Koreas. The the South Korean"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "military is excellent. It's more than"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "adequate to defend itself. And to be"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "frank with you, the majority of anybody"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "that you talk to that has any sort of"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "understanding strategically of the"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "region does not expect North Korea to"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "attack South Korea. In fact, they're"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "developing very good rapport with"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "Beijing. And the last thing that Beijing"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "wants is a war on the Korean Peninsula."}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "But the thing is you we need to talk to"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "them because I can tell you that in"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "North Korea if they see a sudden"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "evacuation of US forces from South"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "Korea,"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "they'll believe that a nuclear strike by"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "the United States against them is"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "imminent. Now that may seem strange to"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "you and me, but you have to understand"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "the North Korean mentality that has"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "evolved there over many decades. So what"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "you want is some sort of agreement in"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "place that gradually disengages us in a"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "way that is very understandable, very"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "obvious and widely monitored by both"}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "north and south. You need to talk to uh"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "the president of China. He has a stake"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "in all of this. You need to talk to to"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "Tokyo. Let me stop for a minute and give"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "you an example of what I'm talking"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "about."}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "When Nixon went to China with Kissinger"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "after they had had their discussions and"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "signed their agreements and so forth,"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "Deng Xiaoping turned to Kissinger and he"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "said, \"Have you been to Tokyo? Have you"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "told the Japanese what you're doing?\""}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "Believe it or not, the answer was no."}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "Dang Xiaoing said, \"You should talk to"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "the Japanese."}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "You know, we know them very well. They"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "have an interest in what is happening"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "and you should talk to them, keep them"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "informed, keep them on board. We want we"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "want we China want good relations with"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "the Japanese. So my point is this is"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "this is pure American stupidity. Okay?"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "We we are governed by arrogance and"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "ignorance. We are ausive in praise for"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "ourselves. We see ourselves in"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "unrealistic ways. All you have to do is"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "listen to President Trump. You know, if"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "they're not going to do what I say, if"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "they're not going to come together,"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "well, then I'm not going to have"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "anything to do with this. We'll walk"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "away."}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "Who the hell does he think he is? You"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "know, who's he think he's dealing with?"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "We we have no no true sense of balance"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "regarding who we are and who others are."}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "And this is this is dangerous. And it's"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "very dangerous for the Europeans. The"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "bad news is it sounds like Mattz"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "Mcronone and Starmer have uh contracted"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "a similar disease. They don't realize"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "what they're dealing with. I can't"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "imagine Palmerston"}, {"end": "00:17:12", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "uh in England or Draeli or Gladstone or"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "anybody else treating the Russians with"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:12", "text": "the same kind of disregard and contempt."}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "They they understand very well that"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "Russia may be many things but Russia is"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "a great power and it has enormous"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "influence. You don't treat it badly but"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "we do."}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "So take me there."}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "[Music]"}]

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In the negative utopia described"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "in my story, man has been subordinated"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "to his own inventions."}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "Science, technology, social"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "organization,"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "these things have ceased to serve man."}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "They have become his masters."}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "Oldest Huxley's novel portrays a"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "dystopian future under the dictatorship"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "of a world state where every aspect of"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "human life is controlled from laboratory"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "creation to the grave. He described the"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "story as fantasy, but later wrote, \"The"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "prophecies made in 1931"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "are coming true much sooner than I"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "thought they would. The nightmare of"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "total organization has emerged and is"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "now awaiting us just around the next"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "corner."}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "With as the rise of brain computer"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "interfaces and biometric sensors and so"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "forth, all the bodies, all the brains"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "would be connected together to a network"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "and you won't be able to survive if"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "you're disconnected from the net. All"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "life on Earth is going to be radically"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "changed. It's a fusion of the physical,"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "the digital, and the biological one."}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "It's changing who we are. These people"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "have gotten to the point now where they"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "are openly anti-human. Everything will"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "be monitored. The environmental"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "consequences of every human action, they"}, {"end": "00:01:47", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "cannot happen without digital ID. Once"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "the digital ID is in place, it's game"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:47", "text": "over for humanity."}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "The ideology of a world dictated through"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "science is deeprooted."}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "Almost a century ago, a movement was"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "established in the United States,"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "preaching that the population should be"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "governed by an elite of selected"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "experts, scientists, and academics"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "rather than democratically elected"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "politicians. They called it technocracy."}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "These engineers and scientists from"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "Columbia University promoted what they"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "thought was going to be the replacement"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "for capitalism and free enterprise. It's"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "not going to be price-based economic"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "system. It's going to be based on"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "resources and energy control over"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "energy. They thought that science was"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "the answer for everything. They didn't"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "have any spiritual bone at all. You"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "know, they were very mechanistic in"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "their thinking. The definition was"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "clear. Technocracy is the science of"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "social engineering. The scientific"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "operation of the entire social mechanism"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "to produce and distribute goods and"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "services to the entire population. The"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "movement was short-lived, but the"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "principle never died. As we'll"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "demonstrate, a strangle hold on policy"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "and resources has always been the"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "ambition of the powerful oligarchs"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "behind many of today's world"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "institutions. It seems to me that"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "there's a very strong drift in the"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "direction of globalization of the"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "ultimate centralization of control in"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "the hands of unelected officials at"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "super national organizations. The lust"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "to control other human beings is a story"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "as old as time. They want all of the"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "resources of the world in their pocket."}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "They do not want you and me to have"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "anything. It's in writing all over the"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "World Economic Forum's website. By 2030,"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "you will own nothing and be happy."}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "That's an oxymora. If you don't have"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "anything of your name, you ain't going"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "to be happy about it. The World Economic"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "Forum may have called that infamous"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "phrase a prediction, but it translates"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "as a statement of intent on behalf of"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "its global power brokers. The bigger"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "picture is that an attempt is underway"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "now to collapse liberal democracy and"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "replace it with global technocracy. What"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "I call an omni war is now underway,"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "which is to say that the transnational"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "ruling class is literally, it's not a"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "metaphor, is literally at war with the"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "rest of humanity and has weaponized"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "everything that it can. This is a coup."}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "They can remove the power from the"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "parliament and the legislative branch"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "and consolidated into a monetary system"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "which has complete control. That control"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "is now entirely achievable because the"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "wouldbe controllers finally have the"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "tools to execute it. Total surveillance,"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "artificial intelligence,"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "digital IDs, and central bank digital"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "currencies. The potential for social"}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "control is gigantic and potentially"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "irreversible."}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "What our experts are describing is a"}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "world commanded by an exclusive group of"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "bankers and industrialists affecting"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "every aspect of our lives. What we eat,"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "what we can buy, where we travel, where"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "we live, and all bypassing"}, {"end": "00:05:33", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "democratically elected governments."}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "You could be forgiven for thinking this"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:33", "text": "is a grand conspiracy theory. But please"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "consider this. The term conspiracy"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "theory has become one of the most"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "successful propaganda terms of all time"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "in closing down discussion and debate."}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "It's a thought terminating cliche, but"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "nevertheless, it's surprisingly"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "effective when you try to calmly present"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "evidence in a factual and reasoned"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "manner. In this film, we will present"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "evidence that the global takeover is not"}, {"end": "00:06:06", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "only possible, it's actually happening"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "and has been decades in the making."}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "They plan to commandeer land, reduce"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "farming and radically change the food we"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "eat, transform the supply of"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "electricity,"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "and then dictate how we use it, and"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "replace currency with a system of"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "credits under their control. It's a"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "classic template. To win the war, take"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "control of food, of energy, and of"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "money. And here's the key. All three"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "strategies are built on the premise of a"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "climate crisis caused by carbon dioxide."}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "A gas that is actually vital for life on"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "the planet. So what if the whole carbon"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "narrative was one gargantuan lie? A"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "political maneuver to establish their"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "brave new world. A big lie is a lie"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "which is told on such a scale that"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "ordinary people simply would not imagine"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "it to be possible. People with empathy"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "can't fathom that a group of people"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "would organize"}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "and engineer this kind of mass atrocity"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "to get where they want to go. It should"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "come as no surprise that financial"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "kingpins are calling the shots. And it's"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "certainly no conspiracy theory when"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "banking executives spell out their"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "intentions."}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "We are on the brink of a dramatic change"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "where we are about to and I'll say this"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "boldly. We're about to abandon the"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "traditional system of money and"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "accounting and introduce a new one. And"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "the new one, the new accounting is what"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "we call blockchain. It means digital. It"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "means having a almost perfect record of"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "every single transaction that happens in"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "the economy which will give us far"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "greater clarity over what's going on. It"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "also raises huge dangers in terms of the"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "balance of power between states and"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "citizens. We are shifting to a new"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "financial system but the general"}, {"end": "00:08:10", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "population is not shifting to a new"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "financial system. It's shifting to a"}, {"end": "00:08:17", "start": "00:08:10", "text": "control grid. CBDC can allow government"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "agencies and private sector players to"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:17", "text": "program to create smart contract"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "to allow targeted policy functions. For"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "example, welfare payment, for example,"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "consumption coupon,"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "for example, food stamp. By programming"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "CBDC,"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "those money can be precisely targeted"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "for what kind of people can own and what"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "kind of use this money can be utilized."}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "A key difference in with the CBDC is"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "that central bank will have absolute"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "control on the rules and regulations and"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "also we will have the technology to"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "enforce that. They're saying we can"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "control with rules."}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "We don't need currency anymore."}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "And so it's no longer a financial system"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "or a currency system. It's purely a"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "digital concentration camp. It's a"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "slavery system. When Katherine Austin"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "Fitz talks, we should listen. She's a"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "former highle investment banker in New"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "York and held senior office in the first"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "Bush administration in Washington. There"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "may be a thousand models of how it could"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "work, but essentially you will have"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "whether it's a banking account or a"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "credit card and it can be turned off and"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "on. So my incentive system is not you go"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "to work and work hard and you get money."}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "My incentive system can be based on how"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "you behaved in the last 5 minutes, you"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "know, on a 247 basis."}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "CBDC's, as the name suggests, would be"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "issued by central banks like the Federal"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "Reserve in America and the Bank of"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "England, not by high street banks. They"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "would signal the end of cash, and every"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "transaction you make would be"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "transparent and held on a permanent"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "database."}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "Crucially, under a net zero regime, your"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "carbon footprint could be at the heart"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "of the system. We're developing through"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "technology an ability for consumers to"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "measure their own carbon footprint."}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "What does that mean? That's where are"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "they traveling? How are they traveling?"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "What are they eating? What are they"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "consuming on the platform? So individual"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "carbon footprint tracker. This can be"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "the infrastructure for a carbon credit"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "system. It's totalitarian control and if"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "people don't become aware of it now,"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "it's going to be too late to backtrack"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "from this. It's a ratchet system where"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "it's very difficult if not impossible to"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "backtrack. But why is now the time for"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "change? Because the system is in crisis."}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "Uh it entered crisis in 2019. Mark"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "Carney, he talked quite openly about how"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "the international monetary and financial"}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "system had entered profound crisis and"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "was effectively on its last legs. If you"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "study the history of how the central"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "bankers designed technocracy,"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "you know, essentially when they created"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "the Fed, they said, \"Look, this can't"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "last forever. We're going to need, you"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "know, at some point somebody's going to"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "get hip to this game. We're going to"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "need another system.\" And I will say"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "this cuz I used to be part of that"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "group. You know, I was born and bred to"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "be a central banker. They plan ahead"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "hundreds of years in advance."}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "Predictably, the money brokers seem to"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "hold all the cards. As a subtext, does"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "the ruling class need to protect itself"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "as artificial intelligence threatens"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "mass unemployment?"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "And what will happen to our existing"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "assets if the banking system is"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "collapsed and money disappears"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "overnight? In an unknown future, one"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "thing is certain. Digital IDs are"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "essential to the project. If they become"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "compulsory, data on every detail of our"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "lives will be monitored, stored, and"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "monetized. Nothing, but nothing would be"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "private. For younger people, often it's"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "the case that they like technology."}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "They're completely offay with it. They"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "enjoy it. So they don't see the dangers"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "that technology can bring because like a"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "drug dealer does you feed people you"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "know low levels of drug where it's all"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "fun and then later when you have them"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "addicted you feed the hard stuff and"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "that destroys their life. So in a"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "similar way, all of this technology is"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "currently pretty much nice, but when the"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "central bank digital currency comes in"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "and the control comes in and the"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "censorship systems, then the younger"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "people will realize all too late in many"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "cases that they've walked themselves"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "into a trap."}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "One man who knows the dangers only too"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "well is Aman Jabi who was at the"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "forefront of digital development in"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "Silicon Valley, California for 25 years."}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "He left when he recognized the dark side"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "of surveillance technology, choosing"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "instead the peace and beauty of Montana."}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "He's an expert in facial recognition."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "It's a technique that is used to"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "uniquely identify the biometrics of any"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "face. So in a device like your"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "smartphone and most modern smartphones"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "in the last 5 or 7 years, they have a 3D"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "camera module in the front of the phone"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "which you cannot see. Within that module"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "is a near infrared projector which"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "projects tens of thousands of dots on"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "your face."}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "Those dots are then distorted based on"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "the contours and the features of your"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "face. And there's a near infrared camera"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "then takes a picture of that distortion,"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "captures it and then reverse engineers"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "the exact profile of your face. In the"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "longer term, facial recognition will be"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "used to unlock your digital identity,"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "which is going to be a tool of control"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "for the agendas that are coming down the"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "pipeline. Elements of that control are"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "already with us. Alexa, good morning."}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "Good morning."}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "You are never alone in your home. And"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "this is why all your devices at home and"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "all smart appliances, they are all"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "connected on a wireless network. Many of"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "these devices will have cameras, many"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "will have microphones and so they are"}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "monitoring everything all the time. Your"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "smart appliances are communicating with"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "the smart meter and sending it real time"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "usage data. If there's a Ring camera"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "also in your home, a mesh network is"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "formed and all your devices are being"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "tracked within the home, its location,"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "its usage and all the data is going to"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "Amazon servers."}, {"end": "00:15:19", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "When you leave your home, all modern"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:17", "text": "vehicles are connected to the internet."}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:19", "text": "So, your automobile is being tracked all"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "the time. When you're going under a"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "string of smart LED poles and smart LED"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "lights on the highway and in the streets"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "of your towns and cities, those form a"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "wireless network and are tracking your"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "vehicle. They're tracking all the"}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "devices on you from smartphones to"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "smartwatches when you're walking on the"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "streets. So data is being collected 24/7"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "continuously on every human being"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "whenever you are within these wireless"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "networks. And it's obviously not good"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "for health also because of all the"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "electromagnetic radiation."}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "In the long term, the plan is to pretty"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "much lock up humanity in smart cities,"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "which is kind of a superet of a"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "15-minute city."}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "They've sold all the state and local"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "governments and countries"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "that smart cities are about"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "sustainability and the good of the city."}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "But in reality, the language from the UN"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "and WF and their white papers is all"}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "inverted."}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "So their monitoring is really about"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "limiting mobility and no car ownership."}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "Right? Surveillance"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "control via LED grid is why the smart"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "lighting is death. Water management is"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "about water rationing. Noise pollution"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "is about speed surveillance. Traffic"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "monitoring is about limiting mobility."}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "And then of course energy conservation"}, {"end": "00:16:51", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "is all about rationing heat, electricity"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "and gasoline. Another concept one should"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:51", "text": "be familiar with is called geo fencing"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "and that's think of it as an invisible"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "fence around you where you cannot go"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "beyond a certain point and that will be"}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "related to your face recognition digital"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "identity and access control. Your smart"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "contracts software can turn off your"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "digital currency beyond a certain point"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "from your house. Our world has been"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "turned into a digital panopticon."}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "That means you can be monitored,"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "analyzed, managed, and monetized."}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "Surveillance capitalists are already"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "making billions of dollars selling our"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "information to big corporations because"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "this kind of detailed knowledge enables"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "them to predict and influence our"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "behavior."}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "Worse, our children are being exploited."}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "There are a lot of board games and other"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "games that are already in the market and"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "have been for over 2 years that have"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "cameras inside and underneath these LED"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "screens that are observing and scoring"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "and emotionally calibrating the faces of"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "all the children. So are all the iPads"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "that they use in schools. They're all"}, {"end": "00:18:03", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "manipulating children's behavior by what"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "they display on the screens. And child"}, {"end": "00:18:08", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "data is big business. There's a concept"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "called social impact investing which"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:08", "text": "people should read up on. If your kids"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "are in schools, they are already being"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "traded on Wall Street in real time. They"}, {"end": "00:18:18", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "can bet on groups of kids whether"}, {"end": "00:18:20", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "they're going to be successful or not,"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:18", "text": "whether they're going to become computer"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:20", "text": "scientists or environmental engineers."}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "So, children have become essentially a"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "commodity"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "and have been for years with this"}, {"end": "00:18:35", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "system. And once it's fully in place,"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "it is going to be used to fully control"}, {"end": "00:18:40", "start": "00:18:35", "text": "the behavior of children as well as how"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "they behave with respect to, you know,"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:40", "text": "diversity, equity, inclusivity, etc. The"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "Chinese have already gone one step"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "further. Classrooms have robots that"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "analyze students health and engagement"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "levels. Students wear uniforms with"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "chips that track their locations."}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "There are even surveillance cameras that"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "monitor how often students check their"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "phones or yawn during classes. These"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "sensors pick up electrical signals sent"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "by neurons in the brain. The neural data"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "is then sent in real time to the"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "teacher's computer."}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "We've been drawn into this digital spy"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "network in the name of convenience,"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "connectivity, safety, and especially"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "entertainment."}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "The 3D world of cyerspace creates"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "virtual lives that are often more"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "exciting than reality. Why is this"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "technology being developed? It's all for"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "the culmination of this digital prison"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "from which there will be no escape after"}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "all the switches are turned on."}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "The critical switch would be the"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "introduction of those digital IDs and"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "central bank financial control. A world"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "of zero trust. Zero trust is based on a"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "simple principle. Never trust, always"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "verify. Zero trust is a protocol that is"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "implemented by cyber security companies."}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "And what it really means is we don't"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "trust you and you have to prove who you"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "are all the time 24/7. So think of it as"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "going from a world of implicit allow to"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "default deny. In tomorrow's world, once"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "zero trust is implemented in say retail,"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "everything will be behind plexiglass"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "doors with a 3D camera and it'll only be"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "unlocked"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "through your digital identity and facial"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "recognition if you have the available"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "carbon credits in your digital currency."}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "If you've reached the limit of your"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "allowance, it could be access denied."}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "This would apply to fuel, to travel, to"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "meat and dairy products,"}, {"end": "00:20:52", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "to clothes and other consumer goods"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "because everything in life could be"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:52", "text": "valued by its carbon footprint. Even"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "access to the internet could be denied."}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "So the new world of zero trust is really"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "a world of locks. It's like an inverted"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "prison. You are supposedly free to roam"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "about, but everything you want to access"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "is behind lock and key."}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "Most advances in science, including AI,"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "bring great advantages to the world."}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "They can enhance and improve human"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "endeavor in almost every walk of life."}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "But you don't have to be a scientist to"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "see the flip side. They're constantly"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "monitored by facial recognition cameras"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "that are able to instantly put a face to"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "a name. Now, the Chinese are also"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "ranked, given a mark out of a possible"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "950 points. For now, the number is a"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "sort of bank credit rating, keeping"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "track of everyone's spending habits. It"}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "may seem scary, but it's just like that"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "here. We're used to it, and anyway, we"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "don't have a choice."}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "If you think this couldn't happen in the"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "West, ask yourself why so many cameras,"}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "smart poles, and 5G networks are being"}, {"end": "00:22:11", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "installed in your neighborhood."}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "In London, the police are using facial"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:11", "text": "recognition surveillance. Sainsburries"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "is already experimenting with AI. Thank"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "you for waiting. The cabinet will now be"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "opened."}, {"end": "00:22:26", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "In UK railway stations, surveillance is"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "being tested to collect travelers data."}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:26", "text": "And in Oxford, these barriers were"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "installed by the council under its"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "so-called 15-minute city plan. They were"}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "removed following protests."}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "But look at what's replacing them in"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "these quiet residential streets."}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "As the tech companies are proud to tell"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "us, the possibilities are endless. We've"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "developed the camera into a sensor. The"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "camera does not only capture video. It"}, {"end": "00:22:57", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "can now start to count,"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "measure,"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:57", "text": "and detect."}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "With deep learning capability, the"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "camera is able to generate accurate and"}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "trustworthy data and send notifications"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "in order to take action all directly"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "from the camera. And since our cameras"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "have open technology, well, we can work"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "with different analytic partners from"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "all over the world and together do just"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "about anything we want."}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "Note that they can do just about"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "anything they want. Digital technologies"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "mainly have an analytical power. Now we"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "go into a predictive power. But since"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "the next step could be in to go into"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "prescriptive"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "uh mode which means um uh you you do not"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "even have to have elections anymore"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "because we know what the result will be."}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:51", "text": "Ultimately, we're facing manipulation by"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "the system. A world where instead of us"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "using technology, technology is using"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "us."}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "But who's really pulling the strings?"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "Banking and oil dynasties like"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "Rothschild and Rockefeller inevitably"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "get mentioned, as do the modern-day big"}, {"end": "00:24:17", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "tech masters, including the ubiquitous"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "Bill Gates. David Hughes takes a wider"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:17", "text": "view. It's those who own the means of"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "production, who are capable of magicking"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "money out of thin air, who control the"}, {"end": "00:24:29", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "media, and all of the other means of"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "production, which have now been"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:29", "text": "weaponized against the rest of the"}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "global population. Katherine Austin"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "Fitz, the banking insider, adds a"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "sinister thought. If you know their"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "name, they're not at the top."}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "Either way, it's a story of power,"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "money, and manipulation by a small group"}, {"end": "00:24:53", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "of people who share common interests and"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "a belief that the world needs top-down"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:53", "text": "control for maximum efficiency."}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "As we'll see, it could result in the"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "destruction of the farming industry in"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "favor of laboratory foods and a shortage"}, {"end": "00:25:09", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "of electricity because of the race to"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "net zero. Net zero means the"}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:09", "text": "impoverishment of ordinary people. It"}, {"end": "00:25:16", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "means fundamental changes to their"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "lifestyles and the politicians are not"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:16", "text": "being honest with the people about it."}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "Surprisingly, the blueprint for"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "transformation is woven into the United"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "Nations agenda 2030. Ostensibly, a"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "vision for a better world."}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:31", "text": "Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, I"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "say again that taken together, the 2030"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "agenda for sustainable development and"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "the Paris climate agreement"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "provide humanity with a master plan for"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "a sustainable way of life on this"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "planet."}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "New York City, late September 2024."}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "The setting for the United Nations"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "Summit of the Future. A gathering of"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "member nations to reinforce and"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "accelerate Agenda 2030 and its 17"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "sustainable development goals or SDGs."}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "The plan has a broad spectrum and is"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "full of worthy ambition. But behind"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "those deliberately bright and colorful"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "boxes lies a darker theme, a shifting of"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "influence and potentially power towards"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "unelected world bodies."}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "The strategy goes back well into the"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "last century and pressure is growing"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "because the goals are far behind targets"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "set at the grand relaunching in 2015. 17"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "inspiring sustainable development goals,"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "the STGS. Our aim is clear. Our mission"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "is possible. And our destination is in"}, {"end": "00:26:49", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "our sight."}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "To end poverty"}, {"end": "00:26:58", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "and hunger, address inequality,"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:55", "text": "protect our planet, and build a life of"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:58", "text": "dignity for all."}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "It appears to be a noble and ambitious"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "program for a perfect world. And who"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "could argue with those aspirations?"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "But critics insist the goals are not"}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "what they seem."}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "Alex Newman is a journalist and"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "broadcaster who's been investigating the"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "issue for 15 years. He has his own way"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "of interpreting the rhetoric. You have"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "to learn to speak what I call UNES. Uh"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "you have to know what the terms mean if"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "you want to truly understand what is"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "being discussed. when they talk about"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "peacekeeping forces or the peacekeeping"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "role of the United Nations, they're"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "actually talking about the war making"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "capabilities of the United Nations. So,"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "you have this Orwellian double speak"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "when they talk about transparency. Uh"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "more often than not, they're talking"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "about eliminating your privacy. Human"}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "rights is another very very good"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "example. They make very clear in this"}, {"end": "00:27:57", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "document that your rights uh can be"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "restricted under the guise of public"}, {"end": "00:28:01", "start": "00:27:57", "text": "order or morality or or whatever the"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "case may be. And so they're saying,"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:28:01", "text": "\"Here's your rights, but by the way,"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "they're not really rights. We can revoke"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "them at any time.\" The UN is filled with"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "contradictions like this. Like for"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "example, when they talk about gender"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "equality, right? A normal person in the"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "Western world thinks gender equality"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "means a woman has a right to earn money,"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "to own property, to to have all the"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "rights and privileges that a man would"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "have. When you look at the the"}, {"end": "00:28:23", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "individuals who lead this movement"}, {"end": "00:28:25", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "within the UN, uh you're talking about"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:23", "text": "radical feminists. You're talking about"}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:25", "text": "people who are very interested in"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "dissolving the nuclear family. As you"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "dig into these goals, it's very clear"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "we're dealing with something far more"}, {"end": "00:28:37", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "nefarious. Once you look past the"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "marketing slogans, the kind of warm and"}, {"end": "00:28:40", "start": "00:28:37", "text": "fuzzy we're going to end hunger, which"}, {"end": "00:28:42", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "again is just window dressing, you"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "realize that this is actually a blank"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:42", "text": "check for totalitarian global control."}, {"end": "00:28:58", "start": "00:28:51", "text": "No use. I will never dream of your love"}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "to take me there. Take me there. Heat."}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:58", "text": "Heat. N."}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "Heat. Heat. N."}]

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I'm"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "a combat sports guy and I would never"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "say we won. Like if Kamaro Usman beat"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "somebody, I'd never say we won. You"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "know, Kamar would call me up. What the"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "[\u00a0__\u00a0] are you saying, man? We You know"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "what I did in camp, you know? I mean,"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "rounds I sparred, you know?"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "Yeah. All the punches he took. It's so"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "crazy. But if there's a group of guys,"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "you can say we. 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Yeah."}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "Then after a while they sort of"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "integrated and now I'm white. Yeah. Now"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "now you're just a white person. I'm just"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "a regular white. But it's easy now in n"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "like in big public narrative and stuff"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "to it's e it's a lot easier to accuse"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "you and 30 other different nationalities"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "of people who were all very culturally"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "different and unique and just call all"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "of you white people and then pick the"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "worst thing that one of those"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "nationalities did and just cast it among"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "the whole group. But it happens with"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "that with every ethnicity, every"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "identity. The go the goal is to like put"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "everyone in the world in one of three or"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "four buckets and then hopefully figure"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "out how to just put all of them into one"}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "bucket eventually. It's like it's just m"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "it's just it's so much easier to control"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:53", "text": "two or three different types of people"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "than it is 30 or 40 or 100 or a"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "thousand, you know, which is also I"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "think why they never fix the problems"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "that ail our inner cities. 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It's like those people, every"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "person they have in there, they get more"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "money, which is wild. It's wild that we"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "allow that. But then it's also like"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "keeping a certain amount of crime in"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "certain areas ensures that you're always"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "going to have debates over law"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "enforcement. You're always going to have"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "conversations over disenfr we need DEI."}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "We need this. We need quotas. 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We got to make"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "it tougher. What did they do to make it"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "more difficult? Specifically, they"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "attached a bunch of things. I believe"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "the argument is they attached a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "things like social stuff like how much"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "do you uh engage in, you know, activism,"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "how often are you involved in, you know,"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "social activities on campus, you know,"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "what other things are you doing other"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "than just pure academic work? They're"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "like trying to slow them down. They're"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "literally trying to slow them down."}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "Yeah. Um"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "that's another great example too like uh"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "like even just to even just to that they"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "can blanket Asian like that as such a"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "like like it's Indian, it's Chinese,"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "there's a lot of but yeah, people that"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "come from a hard place are willing to"}, {"end": "00:06:38", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "work hard. That's the difference. 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I I I understand"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "definitely that I think things are"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "intentionally neglected like to create"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "chaos and to create this like you said"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "this need for more resources and more"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "but it's also just that maybe a lot of"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "those people that are in positions are"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "just very spineless and self-centered"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "and like they don't even care that"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "people are dying in their streets."}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "They're worried about the the the money"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "that can be made in the ego and the"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "power of it. 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But we just"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "don't have the right people in power"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "maybe even is what it is even in even in"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "local and state government. The right"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "people don't run. They don't want that"}, {"end": "00:07:59", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "job, man. They don't want that smoke."}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "They don't want people attacking them."}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:59", "text": "They don't want any of it. The right"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "people are the people that don't want to"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "be president. It's almost It's almost"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "like they've made these positions only"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "appealing to people who are like sort of"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "criminals. Sociopaths are criminals."}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "Yeah. Real for real. Like, who the [\u00a0__\u00a0]"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "wants to run everything? You got to be"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "crazy. I don't even like running my"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "whole house. I don't like having"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "employees. It's too much. It's too much"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "responsibility. What do you think would"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "happen if just some normal people ran"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "the country, though? Like just some"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "average Joe's. Like, what if me and you"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "just went and ran the What if me if you"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "ran for president? What would happen?"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "They would be get killed. Would you put"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "a [\u00a0__\u00a0] convertible? They would"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "definitely shoot. They would definitely"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "be able to hit my big head. That's for"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "sure. They wouldn't My head's not that"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "little either. You want a cigar? Yeah."}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "Yeah. Let's do it. People in power have"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "always been horrible. Yeah. People when"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "they get unchecked power have always"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "been horrible. That's why directionally"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "like this whole no kings protest that's"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "supposed to go down on Saturday."}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "Directionally it's correct. Like you"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "don't want kings. You don't want"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "oligarchs. But who's funding it? Well,"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "it turns out it's funded by an oligarch."}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "and start funded by a lady worth $20"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "billion who is the aist to Walmart who"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "Walmart a company that employs cheap"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "labor and sells a lot of stuff from"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "China that would be affected by tariffs"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "you know it's like that with all of them"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "though it's like it's like that with"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "everything man everything is like it"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "presents as being this moral situation"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "like they're really looking out for you"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "they're really looking out for people"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "there's they're never really looking out"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "for people there's always some primary"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "profit motive that's causing any"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "organized thing. All this it's never for"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "the human race. It's ne unless the"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "people are all on mushrooms. It's never"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "for the human race. And until mushrooms"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "get legalized, that's probably never"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "going to happen. And that's the real"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "battle. The real battle is what gets"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "legal first, AI or mushrooms, you know?"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "Yeah. It's uh both of us will lead"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "towards God. Both of them will lead"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "towards God, but one with a completely"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "different outcome. I've it's going to"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "take me like four or five times"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "listening to it to be able to talk about"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "it, but the I've went back and listened"}, {"end": "00:10:05", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "to the to the maps maps of meaning on"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "Audible and it's one of Jordan's earlier"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:05", "text": "works, you know, and he's talking about"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "society and how it's structured and"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "basically talks about like the"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "motivations and the origins of why"}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "people always resort to evil, you know,"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "like in this I mean we talk so much"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "about the Holocaust, but not at all"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "about all the other horrible tragedies"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "that happened there in the same time."}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "But even like talking about with Russia,"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "like just think about the Soviet Union"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "and what happened there and how easily"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "people were turned against. It's just we"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "I this little moment in time we're in is"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "just so we should just be so thankful"}, {"end": "00:10:34", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "for it even though it is mass chaos"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "right now. Like the fact that we can the"}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:34", "text": "fact that people are allowed to speak"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "freely and do things and have have the"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "influence and power they do is just nuts"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "when you think about you're right. I"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "mean it's this the the same crazy people"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "that we're arguing about today have"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "always existed in different forms and"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "with different names and faces. But we"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "are better off today than anybody else"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "in human history. And this is a struggle"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "and it is a battle. But I think we can"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "come out of this on the other side if we"}, {"end": "00:11:00", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "all realize that we're being played"}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "against each other. And that's where"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:11:00", "text": "it's important. You know, when you're"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "paying people to protest, you're leaving"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "pallets of bricks around and you're"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "organizing the whole thing and you're"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "shipping people in on buses and you're"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "making sure that all the people show up"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "at a certain amount of time and they're"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "all compensated. You give them water and"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "snacks. Like we got to realize what's"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "going on here. This is not for you. When"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "you light your city on fire and you burn"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "cop cars, it's never good. It's not good"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "for you. It's not good for the cause."}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "They're not going to change the laws."}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "One thing that I heard I heard from"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "Trump today that I thought was very"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "promising is that he wants to make an"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "executive order where uh people that are"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "here for a long time that have been like"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "working on farms that are undocumented"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "that they won't be targeted and that"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "they'll be exempt from all this stuff."}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "This is my feeling. Like if you got here"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "and you're you've integrated into our"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "society, yeah, maybe you shouldn't have"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "snuck in, but you did it and you're not"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "breaking any laws, you're a hardworking"}, {"end": "00:11:55", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "person, those those people need a path"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "to citizenship, man. Because if you"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:55", "text": "don't, then they're just pred they're"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "just prayed upon by people that will"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "take advantage of the fact that they're"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "undocumented and not pay them what"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "they're legally supposed to pay them and"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "not give them benefits if they're"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "legally supposed to have benefits. And"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "they can't say anything because they're"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "worried that immigration's going to get"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "called on them. So the these people are"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "in this constant state of anxiety and"}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "then they hear about the ice raids like"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "at Home Depot like what the [\u00a0__\u00a0] Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "there was a there was a big ice raid um"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "at the at the Facebook data center job"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "not far from my place where I used to"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "have to go when I was Facebook data"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "center ice raid. Yeah, at the Facebook"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "project. It's in um it's not far from me"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "in Virginia. I think it's technically"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "would be in would it be South Boston?"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "And I think it's technically in ICE"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "didn't bribe or Facebook didn't bribe"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "ICE Facebook. I would have [\u00a0__\u00a0] buy"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "some new cars. There's a big job that um"}, {"end": "00:12:46", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "a big job site that I used to have to go"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "on some that's in um the southern part"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:46", "text": "of Virginia, like not far from North"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "Carolina. And I somebody was sending me"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "pictures there from the other day, but"}, {"end": "00:12:55", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "they had a big ice raid and there was"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "dudes like running through the like"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:55", "text": "people were just escaping the job like"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "running away from the job and stuff. It"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "was nuts. But why why like gang members?"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "Yes. Criminals? Yes. this why why like I"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "think as crazy as it sounds the only way"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "to do this and look like you have a"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "heart is evaluate people on a case- by"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "case basis when you're looking at all"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "this crazy [\u00a0__\u00a0] right now with Doge and"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "the uncovering of US aid and this"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "dismantling of this bizarre left-wing"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "ecosystem that's pretty much"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "manufactured like what do you what do"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "you see is going to happen with the rest"}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "of the country. I mean, look, there"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "there are a lot of people who did not"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "vote for Trump. You know that he won and"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "yes, he won every swing state and half"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "the country is a lot of people. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "it's a lot of people. So, and I'm not"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "sure how many of them I wonder how many"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "So, I have a couple questions. How many"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "people didn't vote for Trump and wanted"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "to and are secretly glad he won? I bet"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "there's a pretty significant number of"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "those people who either didn't vote or"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "didn't vote for him, but wanted him to"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "win anyway. Ari says that. Ari says that"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "New York City is like relaxed. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "It's like everybody was relaxed after"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "the election. Like even the liberals are"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "like, \"Yeah, thank God.\" They were like,"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "\"Woo!\" Yeah. Like, \"Thank you, God. You"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "saved me from myself.\" Yeah. Exactly."}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "Cuz it's God doing for us what we can't"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "do for ourselves. Yeah. So, there's"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "that. I wonder. But then I do wonder how"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "many of the people are what I worry"}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "about is how much mental this is where I"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "get mad at the media for presenting this"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "like this is Hitler having it notched up"}, {"end": "00:14:38", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "to 11 for the past eight years and now"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "you've got this because he was put in"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:38", "text": "it's almost like that that that energy"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "has been transferred to Elon now because"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "now do you see the Elon protest they're"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "protesting Elon"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "They're literally standing out there"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "with signs that say arrest Elon Musk."}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "Listen, I guarantee it's organized. I"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "guarantee it's organized by the same"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "people that are going to lose a shitload"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "of money based on all these uh"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "discoveries at Doge. There's no way"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "they're not. If you look at what Doge is"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "uncovering, what they're uncovering with"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "this US A stuff, a lot of that stuff was"}, {"end": "00:15:14", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "organizing through NOS's protests. They"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "organized the uh attempt at getting"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:14", "text": "Trump impeached. I thought you were"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "gonna say killed. They organized the"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "impeachment. Come out. They also spent"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "us a spent $50 million on the on the lab"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "that invented Corona virus, right? Yeah."}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "There's there's a lot of money involved"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "in this not working. And when you have a"}, {"end": "00:15:35", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "lot of money involved, you're going to"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "have organized protest. When you say"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:35", "text": "protest, we all want to think protest"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "like the 1960s. Yeah. Fight the war,"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "man. It's like organic like peace, love,"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "and hippie [\u00a0__\u00a0] But that's not what"}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "this is. What this is is organized"}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "funded protests where someone is"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:49", "text": "spending a lot of money and they're"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "mobilizing other NOS's. They're using"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "their access to these mailing lists and"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "all these different things. They're"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "putting these things together."}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "Yeah. But do do you think that the"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "average liberal person, do you think"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "that they're going to wake up and come"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "around or do you think that they're"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "going to be in like agony for four years"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "and be what if what if it works? like"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "what if the the world gets safer, the"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "country gets safer, the economy"}, {"end": "00:16:20", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "improves, and they don't attack civil"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "rights, women's rights, gay rights, all"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:20", "text": "these things that everybody's worried"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "about. And then at the end of it, you"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "realize like, hey, maybe I was wrong. I"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "mean, that's my question, though. Are"}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "you are they capable of that kind of"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "self-reflection? If you that Well, we're"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "saying they as if it's like one"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "different kind like one kind of person."}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "No, I mean there's so many different"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "people in they. Agreed. I mean, when I"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "say they, I mean people who are have"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "bought into the idea that this person is"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "going to make everything worse and we're"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "going to slip into a fascist"}, {"end": "00:16:54", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "technocracy."}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "Some of them,"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:54", "text": "some of them are going to slip right"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "into it. Some of them are going to wake"}, {"end": "00:17:02", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "up and come around. You know, it's a"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "test. It's a test of character. It's a"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:02", "text": "test of objectivity. It's a test of"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "introspection. There's a lot of things"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "that are going to happen where people"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "are going to have to wonder like what"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "was I rooting for when I was rooting for"}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "this progressive liberal government."}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "What was I actually rooting for? Was I"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "rooting for wararm mongers who were"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "making insane amounts of profit by"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "funding overseas wars? What was I word"}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "what was I rooting for? Was I rooting"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "for a a a basic theft of our our tax"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "dollars that's gone to all these like"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "completely useless endeavors that were"}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "only set up as ways to pill for money or"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "the fall of America. You know, this is"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "this is a weird thing to like hate your"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "own country so much that you want it to"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "to fall or the the dismantling of uh the"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "life the kind of west as we know it. You"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "know, I think there is a there is a"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "feeling that Elon"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "might have"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "saved the West."}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "Take me there."}]

[{"end": "00:00:03", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Scientist and inventor Dr. Horus Drew"}, {"end": "00:00:10", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "has been looking for the technology that"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "propels the UFOs, UAPs, and balls of"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:10", "text": "light that millions are now discussing."}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "And he believes that some of these crop"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "formations may be telling us. A classic"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "UFO here with three balls in the bottom."}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "These are three wire coils and something"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "spinning in the middle. Here's a crop"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "picture from 2018 that tried to explain"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "it to us. Those are the three wire coils"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "and something spinning."}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "One, two, three. Below you see this"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "other wire coil here which may support"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "the magnet sort of in that broad"}, {"end": "00:00:41", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "section. Here's another crop picture"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "from 2020. We see the same three wire"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:41", "text": "coils and a magnet spinning off axis"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "like that coming to the top and rising"}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "up. Magnet should be rising up. And here"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "in our levitation device we have those"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "same three wire coils. One, two, three."}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Below here we have a magnet which can"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "spin. Electrical engineer Nicola"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "Romansky had a theory that many of these"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "shapes are pieces of a blueprint for"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "some kind of machine as if they were"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "two-dimensional patterns to be unrolled"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "into three-dimensional objects. Romansky"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "began doing this with a 3D printer and"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "piecing together the puzzle."}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "I was contacted by a mysterious inventor"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "by the name of Nicoola Romansky who sent"}, {"end": "00:01:32", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "me a very strange um email. When I"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "opened this email, there was a video"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:32", "text": "attached and the video um appeared to be"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "Nola's attempt using a simple Autodesk"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "CAD program to decode a specific circle"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "that had come down in 2009, but it"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "seemed to harvest blueprints. there was"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "some kind of machine we were staring at"}, {"end": "00:01:56", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "all of a sudden. And of course, my next"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "question to Nola was, \"What kind of"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:56", "text": "machine do you think this is?\" And and"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "then eventually the conversation turned"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "to, \"Can we build this?"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "Much like Professor Robert Plot from the"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "17th century, Meaten theorized that a"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "natural plasma phenomena was responsible"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "for producing the mysterious crop"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "circles. and by their appearance from"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "ground level. This doesn't sound that"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "far-fetched, but by the mid 1980s,"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "several photographers began documenting"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "them from the air, which is clearly the"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "intended perspective. From above, the"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "crop circles often have a stunning"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "symmetry and complex geometry."}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "Elaborate pictograms somehow cut into"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "fields in a few hours of darkness. It"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "was a great mystery and in an age of"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "snail mail newsletters and VHS tapes,"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "word traveled fast. By 1990, it went"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "mainstream."}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "The East Field Pictogram, hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "feet long, was discovered on July 12th"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "of 1990. Led Zeppelin used it on the"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:18", "text": "cover of their new remasters release."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "And that summer, the British government"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "and the CIA deployed damage control."}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "They didn't want people talking about"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "crop circles. In late July of 1990, crop"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "circle investigator Colin Andrews led a"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "sensationalized investigation produced"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "by the BBC with the support of the"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "British military called Operation"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "Blackbird. They were to stake out a"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "field, a field owned by the government"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "at night with sensory detectors in hopes"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "of capturing the creation of a crop"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "circle. On the second night, Colin"}, {"end": "00:04:03", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "Andrews was told by the British military"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "that a crop circle was formed. But when"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:03", "text": "the sun came up, it was an obvious"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "man-made hoax. What was being described"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "by the watchers of Operation Blackbird"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "as a major scientific event turned out"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "to be a very corny joke. But the crop"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "circle experts say they're determined"}, {"end": "00:04:21", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "not to be put off by the unknown hoaxes."}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "Their search for a solution continues"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:21", "text": "undaunted though a little deflated."}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "Clarence Mitchell reports on the day"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "that had all the experts running around"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "in well in circles. You can start to see"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "spherical around here."}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "This is a computerenhanced nighttime"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "picture of the moment Operation"}, {"end": "00:04:45", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "Blackbird thought it had achieved"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "success. To the expert eye, circles"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:45", "text": "could be seen slowly emerging in the"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "Wilshire Corn along with faint lights."}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "The truth that it was probably the body"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "heat of the hoaxes would only emerge"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "later. At first glance in daylight, the"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "circles looked convincing, but on closer"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "examination, they spelled fraud on a"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "grand scale. When the Operation"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "Blackbird team got here, they"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "immediately recognized signs of a hoax."}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "Wheat had been broken and soil had been"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "trotten on. And most obviously, these"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "had been left in the center of every"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "circle. A paper board game similar to a"}, {"end": "00:05:22", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "Ouija board. And then some 5 hours"}, {"end": "00:05:24", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "later, this wire was found in the center"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:22", "text": "of one of the circles. And they think"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:24", "text": "that this is the key to the hoax. The"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "next year, Doug Bower and Dave Chley"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "went public with the claim that they"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "created hundreds of crop circles over"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "the course of a decade. The story was"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "broadcast on England's Coast to Coast"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "Evening News."}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "[Applause]"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "Good evening. Experts are tonight"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "divided over claims by two men from"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "Hampshire that they're responsible for"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "the South's famous crop circles. Dave"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "Chley and Doug Ber say they created the"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "strange patterns with nothing more than"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "a wooden board and a length of rope. The"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "men decided to reveal their hoax when"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "they heard the government was planning"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "to finance research into the circles. If"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "their story is true, Dave Chley and Doug"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "Bower are probably the most successful"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "hoaxes of all time. The pair, who both"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "live in Southampton, claim to have made"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "more than 200 corn circles throughout"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "the South of England. According to them,"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "the hoax began as a bit of harmless fun"}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "13 years ago. Since then, the patterns"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "have become more elaborate. Many thought"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "they were made by alien spacecraft. Some"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "scientists have devoted their life's"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "work to the search for a natural"}, {"end": "00:06:42", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "explanation. Others have written"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "best-selling books on the subject. Mr."}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:42", "text": "Chley and Mr. Ba say everyone was"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "conned. And the newspaper which"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "published their story says it spent a"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "week verifying their claims. For the"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "first three years, nothing happened at"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "all. And we realized that we were"}, {"end": "00:07:00", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "putting them in fields that the public"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "couldn't see. And uh we then had to find"}, {"end": "00:07:03", "start": "00:07:00", "text": "a slope or or a dip in the in the lands"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "that the motors could see, you see."}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:03", "text": "Well, we decided on the um punch bowl at"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:05", "text": "Cheesefoot Head on the Petersfield Road."}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "And it was only a few hours before the"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "first reports were coming through about"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "the circle that was found in the Punch"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "Bowl at Cheese Foot Head. The men are"}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "scornful of the self-styled experts"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "who've camped out at known circle sites"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "in the hope of filming the unexplained"}, {"end": "00:07:26", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "phenomenon. I can't understand anybody"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "of that intelligence walking and making"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:26", "text": "something of flattened corn and shapes"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "in cornfields. Quite honestly, had it"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "been us ordinary layman and gone, I"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "think we'd have suspicate within a year."}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "The men say they planned their designs"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "with geometric precision. Today, in a"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "cornfield near Chicha, they set out to"}, {"end": "00:07:48", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "show how they did it, carrying the tools"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "they've used for 13 years. Watched this"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:48", "text": "time by the world's press, the Japanese"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "were especially curious about this"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "strange art form. Mr. Chie and Mr. Bower"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "went to work spiraling outwards to make"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "their crop circle. The secret, they say,"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "is flattening the corn halfway up the"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "stem, which gives a different effect to"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "merely trampling on it. Working by day"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "was a luxury for them. Normally, they"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "did it by the dead of night. This story"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "made international news and for many it"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "was all they needed to dismiss the"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "entire thing as a hoax. But Doug and"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "Dave were not able to produce a"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "symmetrical formation. They kept"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "changing their story and when asked how"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "they avoided leaving footpaths, they"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "claimed they polevolted through the"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "fields. In a later interview, Colin"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "Andrews claimed that he was set up by"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "the British government and the CIA, and"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "that Doug and Dave had to sue for the"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "rest of the money they were promised for"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "telling their story. There have been"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "many hoaxes since, as well as corporate"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "marketing stunts and art projects. But"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "it's not hard to spot a hoax."}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "The crop formations created by man leave"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "behind crushed and broken crop and the"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "ground is left in ruin. But in the other"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "ones there is nothing but elegant detail"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "and the physical properties of the crops"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "have somehow been altered. Crop"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "formations are made by bending over crop"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "and the manner in which it is bent is"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "quite often very strange. It occurs at a"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "node in the stem. The water content"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "inside the nodes seems to have been"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "cooked from the inside. In many cases"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "blown out due to internal pressure. The"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "research of biopysicist Dr. WC"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "Levvengood describes the causation of"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "these blown out nodes as something akin"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "to microwaves. In one study, hundreds of"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "crop formations from multiple countries"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "were studied over a 10-year period. On"}, {"end": "00:09:58", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "the microscopic level, abnormal"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "enlargement of cell wall pits was found"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:58", "text": "and expulsion cavities were found at the"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "bent nodes. When crop circles occur in"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "mature plants with fully formed seeds,"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "the seeds are often found to have growth"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "rates up to five times that of control"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "seeds, and they produce more protein"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "content. When I germinated some of these"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "seeds, notice the control here. You got"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "plants that are short, very short. Here"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "are the formation plants and you can see"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "the tremendous difference. These are"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "very, very much healthier, more vigorous"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "plants. The embryogenesis in the seeds"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "have been drastically altered. When the"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "soil is analyzed, spherical magnetic"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "particles are found which are microns in"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "diameter. They are often found adhering"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "to the soil within a melted glaze of the"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "same magnetic material."}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "Many crop circles won't go away for"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "years. Ghost formations are seen the"}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "following season. Whatever is creating"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "these things is doing so with some sort"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "of exotic energy. No matter how much big"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "corporations spend on creating them,"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "nobody has been able to recreate these"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "elements or even demonstrate how they"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "are made within hours in the darkness of"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "night. Dozens every summer all over the"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "world. Some formations are over a,000 ft"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "in diameter. Some include 3D illusions"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "only visible from specific angles. Many"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "are encoded with precise astronomy and"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "mathematical concepts including the"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "mandelro set, fractals,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "sacred geometry, and squaring the"}, {"end": "00:11:53", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "circle. One formation was found to be a"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "geometric representation of pi accurate"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:53", "text": "to 10 decimal places. On August 7th,"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "2009, a massive crop formation filling"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "an entire field appeared like a human"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "butterfly."}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "In 2004, Robert Ridge from Roswell, New"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "Mexico, discovered a small rock with a"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "design protruding from its surface, now"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "known as the Roswell Rock. The carving"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "has no marks of drilling or cutting, and"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "it has anomalous magnetic properties."}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "This inspired investigation which found"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "that a crop formation from 8 years"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "earlier was the same mysterious design."}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "On August 7th, 2008, CERN announced the"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "completion and launch date of their"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "Atlas barrel tooid, one of the largest"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "superconducting magnets ever built. It"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "consists of eight coils, creating an"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "octagonal geometry. The same day as this"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "announcement, an octagonal crop"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "formation appeared in Chir Hill,"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "England, now known as the eight magnet"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "formation."}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "Many crop formations seem to be a form"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "of communication."}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "The Aerosibo message was a radio message"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "broadcast into space in 1974."}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "under 2,000 bits of data that when"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "correctly translated shows the numbers 1"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "to 10, the atomic numbers of the"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "elements and the formulas that make up"}, {"end": "00:13:29", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "the nucleotides of DNA, the number of"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "DNA nucleotides in the human genome, a"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:29", "text": "graphic of the double helix structure of"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "DNA, the average dimensions of a human,"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "the human population of Earth, a graphic"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "of the solar system, including where the"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "message is coming from, and a graphic of"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "the radio telescope used to send the"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "message."}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "27 years later in 2001, two crop"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "formations were reported near the Chill"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "Bolton radio telescope in Hampshshire,"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "UK. The first was a human face and soon"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "after another one appeared that seems to"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "be an answer to the Aerosibo message. It"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "reflected the original message, but with"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "a different planetary origin, different"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "DNA, and a different physical"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "appearance. And instead of a radio"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "telescope, there was an image of a crop"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "formation that appeared in the same"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "field one year prior. Almost exactly a"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "year later, and less than 9 mi away, a"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "crop formation appeared with an alien"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "face and a binary coded disc. When"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "translated, the binary code reads,"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "\"Beware the bearers of false gifts and"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "their broken promises. Much pain, but"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "still time. Believe there is good out"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "there. We oppose deception. Conduit"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "closing.\""}, {"end": "00:14:55", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "During the twilight hours on August"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "11th, 1996 near Oliver's Castle in"}, {"end": "00:15:02", "start": "00:14:55", "text": "England, a man captured a video of orbs"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "flying over a field and a crop formation"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:02", "text": "materializing beneath them. The"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "formation he caught being formed was"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "discovered by the public hours later. If"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "a hoax, nobody has been able to figure"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "out how he did it."}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "Many of the crop formations have been"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "decoded, but not all. Many are still a"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "mystery. Some believe they may be caused"}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "by sound in some way. Crop circles are"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "still a mystery. But as the veil"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "continues to be lifted, perhaps we will"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "learn more about this strange art form."}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "Thank you for watching and thank you for"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "your support."}, {"end": "00:15:49", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "Show me."}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "I will never dream of your love to take"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "me there. Take me there."}]

[{"end": "00:00:05", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Have you ever wondered why every global"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "crisis seems to come with a perfect"}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "solution already lined up? Let me"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "introduce you to the Hegelian dialectic"}, {"end": "00:00:17", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "which was actually originated in the"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "1800s for philosophical progress but"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:17", "text": "then later manipulated for politics and"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "revolution. Basically, in other terms,"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "it's what the evil elites of this world"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "use to keep us controlled. They create"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "the problem. They create the reaction"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "and they create the solution. 9/11 for"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "example, the problem, the terror attack,"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "the reaction to protect us. And the"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "solution is endless war and mass"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "surveillance. Mission accomplished. We"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "all remember this one in 2020, don't we?"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "Well, the problem was the pandemic. The"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "reaction was the lockdowns. And the"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "solution was the injections, the digital"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "IDs, and the track and trace. Mission"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "accomplished."}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "Problem, climate change. Reaction,"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "stratospheric aerosol transport and"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "nucleation, which is an acronym for"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "Satan. And the solution, carbon taxes,"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "restricted movement, and AI ran smart"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "cities. They create the problem, they"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "stage the reaction, and they always have"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "the solution. They just make you beg for"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "it. But please go and look into the"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "heygalian dialectic before you start"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "coming into my comments and calling"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "mental. But obviously this was just for"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "entertainment. Best way to understand"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "the United Nations is really as a front"}, {"end": "00:01:39", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "for a group of people. If you think of"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "the UN as it's portrayed in education,"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:39", "text": "as it's portrayed in the media, you"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "imagine like, oh, the world is coming"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "together and we're singing Kumbaya. But"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "that's not the reality. If you look,"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "there are key people who make the"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "decisions and they're not always in the"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "news. Often times they're behind the"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "scenes. Here in the United States, we"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "have a number of secret societies that"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "are very, very influential when it comes"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "to this architecture of international"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "governance. The Skull and Bone Society"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "at Yale University, kind of a secret"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "club, uh, where you find people like"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "John Kerry, George Bush, etc. Uh then"}, {"end": "00:02:10", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "you have the Bohemian Grove out in"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "Northern California. Very very bizarre"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:10", "text": "secret organization bringing together"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "really hundreds of the most powerful men"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "in the world. Presidents, prime"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "ministers, cabinet ministers, CEOs of"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "the big corporations and all throughout"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "the history of the United Nations. Uh"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "these groups have been really a critical"}, {"end": "00:02:29", "start": "00:02:25", "text": "component of the decision-m the agenda"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "setting. Uh and it comes down to the"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:29", "text": "individual level as well when you want"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "to look at who are the individuals that"}, {"end": "00:02:36", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "are guiding these processes. Uh the"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "Rockefeller name, for example, comes up"}, {"end": "00:02:40", "start": "00:02:36", "text": "over and over again from donating the"}, {"end": "00:02:43", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "land that the United Nations was on to"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:40", "text": "donating money to various UN agencies to"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:43", "text": "kind of helping to chart the agenda."}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "What should the UN be focusing on? The"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "Rockefellers and their allies keep"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "coming up over and over and over again."}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "When we talk about the UN, we really"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "need to recognize that there's the"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "double speak, there's the propaganda,"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "that it's just the nations of the world"}, {"end": "00:03:00", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "coming together to solve problems. And"}, {"end": "00:03:01", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "then there's the reality. Uh, it's a"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "front group for a group of very"}, {"end": "00:03:06", "start": "00:03:01", "text": "dangerous, very totalitarian-minded, and"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "ambitious individuals who, if left to"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:06", "text": "their own devices, would would rule over"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "humanity with an iron fist. Hey, I just"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "saw this creepy happen on national"}, {"end": "00:03:18", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "television. What the was that?"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "You already have y'all's mind blown,"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "man. August 11th, 1987. HARP patent"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "method and apparatus for altering a"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "region in the Earth's atmosphere"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "ionosphere. These dates over here. Is"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "this the 80s? Huh? Or electromagnetic"}, {"end": "00:03:43", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "radiation is transmitted upward in a"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "direction substantially parallel to and"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:43", "text": "along a field line which extends through"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "a region of the plasma to be altered."}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "The plasma to be altered. Here's your"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "little figures and whatnot just"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "basically showing what it is. Look below"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "me. Directed energy weapons devices that"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "direct a beam of high energy content"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "toward a target for incapacitating or"}, {"end": "00:04:07", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "destroying the target. Well, so this was"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "in the 80s. It's pretty cool. Pretty"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:07", "text": "cool patent. So, fact checkers, before"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "y'all freak out with the fact check. I"}, {"end": "00:04:15", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "literally just read the Google patent."}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "I'm not saying it's anything. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:15", "text": "saying nothing. My shirt's on inside"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "out. I don't really care this morning,"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "man. I just saw it. I thought it was"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "really cool. So, I decided to read a"}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "patent. There's no underlying contact of"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "this or anything. Fact checkers, don't"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "you just love these old NASA photos of"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "them working on motherboards there?"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "Look, look, she's obviously soldering"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "something there. Or is she? Cuz if"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "you've got a second eyeball, you'll"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "notice something that's a little bit out"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "of place, like her hand. Let me impose"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "that for you. There it is. You notice"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "what's going on there? Yeah. She's got"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "um basically supersonic hands that don't"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "know heat. Yeah, obviously this is an"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "exw woman here at NASA. That's what they"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "employ. They only employ people that are"}, {"end": "00:05:02", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "fireproof. Yeah, because this girl is"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "obviously holding that soldering iron"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:02", "text": "there and doesn't feel any of it. Her"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "skin isn't burning off. She's looking"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "like she's doing her job normal there."}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "But oh, is it just a photo op and she"}, {"end": "00:05:15", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "picked it up and thought she'd, you"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "know, just show us and uh didn't"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:15", "text": "actually hold it the correct way cuz"}, {"end": "00:05:20", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "she's never done it in her life before."}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "Yeah. Could it be that? Could it be that"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:20", "text": "when you're buying sellouts into your"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "company cuz they need to tow the line,"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "you don't actually get the genius"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "effect, do you? Now, you get what is"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "available is the best way to say it,"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "folks. And that is NASA for you. So,"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "today we're going to go down one of the"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "largest rabbit holes I've ever found."}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "And this is the replacement of the"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "government with AI. And that's what's in"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "this bill. Let's talk about it. So in"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "section 43201 it talks about replacing"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "the department of commerce with AI. Now"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "the question comes with what else do"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "they replace with AI? And here's where"}, {"end": "00:05:58", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "it gets really strange. It talks about"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "in this section below that no politician"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:58", "text": "or governing body may stop AI for the"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "next 10 years or enforce any laws or"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "regulations regulating artificial"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "intelligence models."}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "That's Silicon Valley owning the"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "government. Then we find Silicon Valley"}, {"end": "00:06:16", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "manipulating the weather. Hm. Then it"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "gets weirder when we find AI and Silicon"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:16", "text": "Valley entering the health care system"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "to control all of that. And you can't"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "sue any of these companies. Isn't that"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "odd? And this kind of reminds me of the"}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "Vaccine Protection Act signed by Reagan"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "in 1986 protecting all the vaccine"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "companies from damages. There were so"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "many lawsuits that they were actually"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "going to go out of business, but the"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "government protected them. And it gets"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "even deeper when we find Billy Boy"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "Clinton in the Telecommunication Act of"}, {"end": "00:06:45", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "1996. He passed a bill. So if they put a"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "cell phone tower in front of your house,"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:45", "text": "you can't sue for any damages. Do you"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "see how the government is kind of"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "setting us up and then they're going to"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "replace the government with AI? It's"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "kind of really strange. It's almost like"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "Black Mirror. Early 1900s, my dad was an"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "incubator baby in Coney Island. He was"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "on display. They had just invented the"}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "incubator."}, {"end": "00:07:05", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "He was"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "You could literally tell me anything."}, {"end": "00:07:12", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "I'd believe. No, it's true."}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "Totally. Your mom was an orphan. Your"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:12", "text": "dad left home. He was an orphan also."}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "What did each of them tell you about"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "their situations growing up? They didn't"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "talk much about it. The best way to hide"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "something is to not hide it at all. So,"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "we're in Plaza Castile right now in"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "Madrid and it's really cool because"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "people walk by this every single day and"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "they don't know because they don't see"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "the hidden Masonic symbolism here. So,"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "it's actually really cool. So, in the"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "first temple period, King Solomon,"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "David's son, he was instructed to build"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "two columns outside the temple. Boaz and"}, {"end": "00:07:45", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "Hakeim. Okay. To this day, every single"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "Masonic temple is required to have two"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:45", "text": "columns outside the entrance. Now, if"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "you're a city of consequence, you will"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "have obelisks. Right? Now, the thing"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "you're supposed to do with obelisk is"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "you're supposed to have them situated on"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "top of two intersecting circles or known"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "as a vesica pisces. Why? Because a"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "vesica pisces looks like a gat, like the"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "front end of a gat, right? So, it's a"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "sex symbol. It's basically telling you"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "this is the birth of something. Now, you"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "have the birth of something, you have"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "the entrance to something, right? So,"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "what is that behind this? This is the"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "business district of Madrid. So, it's"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "telling you they're open for business."}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "It's really cool. Another thing, very"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "Masonic. You will see checkered"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "patterns, black and white. So, I'm going"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "to jump as high as I can right now and"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "show you something."}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "Can we get control of an individual to"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "the point where he will do our bidding"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "against his will? My name is Kathy"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "O'Brien and I'm a survivor of MK Ultra"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "mind control. Project Monarch utilized a"}, {"end": "00:08:38", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "combination of psychology, cognitive"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "neuroscience, trauma, and occult rituals"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:38", "text": "to create within the victims one or more"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "altered personas that could be then"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "triggered and programmed by the"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "handlers. It actually changed the way"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "that my brain was functioning. Through"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "trial and error, success was finally"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "achieved. The experiments proved that"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "certain inaudible sound waves will"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "electronically encode messages into"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "victims, allowing for silent mind"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "control to take place on a mass scale"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "and go completely undetected."}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "Hi"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "Then you have another report titled"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "Underground Tunnels and Hybrid Breeding"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "Programs. And you cover Bill Schneider's"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "claims about stumbling into a network of"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "deep underground bases with nonhumans in"}, {"end": "00:09:44", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "them under Doulce New Mexico. Bill died"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "about a year after going on this"}, {"end": "00:09:49", "start": "00:09:44", "text": "whistleblower speaking tour. And a lot"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "of people think what he said was just"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:49", "text": "too sensational. But you go on to add"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "that Doulce is for beans that some say"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "live underground. It's 160 km from"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "Scientologies Framentina base, which is"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "an underground complex they built for"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "some reason. And it's 200 km from"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "Ebstein Zoro Ranch, which has an 8,000"}, {"end": "00:10:13", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "square ft underground level and is said"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "to go even deeper. And of course,"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:13", "text": "Ebstein talked to people about his hopes"}, {"end": "00:10:21", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "to seed the human race from this"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "facility after a cataclysm. So, more"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:21", "text": "logs for the fire. Those pieces are"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "starting to fit, wouldn't you say? If"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "you really want to get to the truth of"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "the matter, you have to factor in an"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "underground world. In my opinion, that's"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "really what is at the heart of what's"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "going on"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "on the back of your credit card. People"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "see the hologram of a dove. And people"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "don't realize what that represents. And"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "that was when Jesus threw the money"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "lenders out of the temple with great"}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "anger. It's because if you were wealthy,"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "you sacrificed an ox during that period"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "of celebration. But if you were poor,"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "you lent money or you borrowed money to"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "sacrifice a dove. So that dove on a"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "credit card represents you're a borrower"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "and you're a poor borrower. There are"}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "Egyptian style sarcophagy in Japan. Did"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "y'all know about this? And there used to"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "be tons of these Egyptianstyle"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "sarcophagy in the Grand Canyon. The"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "Smithsonian bought them up in all"}, {"end": "00:11:19", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "newspapers and magazines that reported"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "on them and I believe has either stored"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:19", "text": "them or destroyed them. Currently, you"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "are not allowed to explore the majority"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "of the Grand Canyon. There are also"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "underwater stone cities. That doesn't"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "make any sense, guys. Why are these"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "cities underwater? And our history books"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "say that an earthquake happened sometime"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "and it sunk and yet there were flood"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "myths all over the world. And like,"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "doesn't that sound more probable?"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "Anyway, a new friend of mine sent me a"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "whole bunch of photos, and I just want"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "these photos to speak for themselves."}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "Notice how the camera almost feels"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "unworthy of capturing them, that there's"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "something almost unearly about these"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "buildings. And you could see the little"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "horse and buggy people at the bottoms of"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "these buildings, not responsible for the"}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "creation of these structures, but for"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "the founding of them, that they founded"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "them exactly the way they are, and then"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "dug them out and carved their initials"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "on them. And then all of our elites have"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "written history books. Legit guys,"}, {"end": "00:12:13", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "you're not allowed to go explore those"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "sunken ruins if you're not an academic."}, {"end": "00:12:17", "start": "00:12:13", "text": "The academics get to have a say on the"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "narratives. And conveniently, all the"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:17", "text": "academics hang out together in their"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "ivory towers. And you need to kiss the"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "ring in order to be let into the secret"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "club. The Kunia Tunnel is basically"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "everything anybody ever says on a phone"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "with on a computer. Those guys are down"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "there and they're listening to"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "everything."}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "And there there's one spot in there that"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "this lieutenant was telling us about"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "that he worked in and it was called"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "otherworldly communications."}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "And I'm like, \"What?\" He's like,"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "\"There's only eight of us. No enlisted,"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "just officers. We're all linguists and"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "we just listen all day to other worldly"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "communications.\""}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "Come on now. If we're talking about"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "aliens, who can communicate with an"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "alien? And he said that we have been"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "doing this for a very long time that"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "we're already traveling in space. And I"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "remember seeing them coming down. They"}, {"end": "00:13:11", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "were wearing like black uniforms. Only"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "thing on their sleeve was a blue circle"}, {"end": "00:13:15", "start": "00:13:11", "text": "with a red pointer coming up the top on"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "the left arm. We were told they were"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "space program guys. This is 2007."}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "A space program. What the hell is a"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "space program? They're already in space."}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "And on the moon there is a dialect. And"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "we do have linguists that understand the"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "dialect. So then two weeks later, couple"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "guys I knew that worked in the Kunia"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:33", "text": "tunnel, I pulled a sign. I said,"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "\"Listen, man, that lieutenant said"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "there's a place called other worldly"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "communications.\" And they said, \"There"}, {"end": "00:13:45", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "is, man. We can't even go in the hallway"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "over there.\" And then you find out why"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:45", "text": "we're in Iraq. Because there's some"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "artifacts that we have to get out of"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "Iraq. We went to Iraq because we wanted"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "to plunder some kind of artifacts they"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "were looking for. He confirmed this."}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "They said that there were some artifacts"}, {"end": "00:14:04", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "from God, who knows how long ago that"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "were extremely important and they were"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:04", "text": "from other civilizations that came to"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "Earth and started the whole program."}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "Whole program. And one of the officers"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "said it, \"This is our fourth time,"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "fourth civilization on Earth that has"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "been this far or even further along than"}, {"end": "00:14:24", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "we are. Let's just hope we make it.\""}, {"end": "00:14:26", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "What does that mean, man? Hope we make"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:24", "text": "it. Was someone going to take us all"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:26", "text": "out? And he indicated with his eyes that"}, {"end": "00:14:35", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "yeah, we could be taken out if we uh we"}, {"end": "00:14:40", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "can safely say that yes, there were some"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:35", "text": "captured craft from 1945 or 47 was it?"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:40", "text": "Uh in Roswell, New Mexico. And yeah,"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "they were real. And yes, we really did"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "get some technology from them. And yes,"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "we really did put it to work. And we can"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "thank people in the United States Army"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "to have the foresight to put these into"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "industry for the benefit the of the"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "people of the world. I know this to be a"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "fact."}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "We put it to use, but it took us a long"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "time to figure out what it was and then"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "figure out how we can use it and then"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "what to use it for. And are those"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "products useful for"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "humanity?"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "Show me the same"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "old thing. No useful life. I will never"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "dream of your love to take me there."}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "Take me there."}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "Heat. Heat. N."}]

[{"end": "00:00:06", "start": "00:00:00", "text": "Has there ever been a situation that you"}, {"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "were in where you've gotten confirmation"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "of government's involvement with human"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "alien hybrids?"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "Yes. Okay."}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "From a credible source, you could say"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "yes. They know about the hybrids. Yes. I"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "mean, gun to your head right now, you"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "would you would say absolutely."}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "Absolutely. Yes. They were able to"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "collect DNA from aliens. John Ramirez,"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "former CIA officer, 25 year career. CIA"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "had a program to trace this alien DNA in"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "certain families and particularly their"}, {"end": "00:00:50", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "children were of interest to CIA. The"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "CIA was tracking the activity of"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:50", "text": "hybrids, human alien hybrids in the"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "United States. that and going back in in"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "their lineage in that 25 years. Did you"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "encounter anyone you knew for sure was"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "read into one of the deeper programs?"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "Yes. Did you have a lot of interactions"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "with this person? Yes, I did. My name"}, {"end": "00:01:16", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "was submitted for that particular"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "compartment and the Pentagon came back"}, {"end": "00:01:19", "start": "00:01:16", "text": "and said, \"No, we're not going to read"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "John Romero's into that.\" No way. You"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:19", "text": "specifically You specifically cannot be"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "rated. He said, \"You don't understand,"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "John. This program is the highest secret"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "top secret in the entire United States"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "government. This top secret information"}, {"end": "00:01:41", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "exceeds that of Manhattan Project.\" His"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "um branch uh did operations under the"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:41", "text": "sea, retrieving things. Bob, one of my"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "engineers, was looking at one of the"}, {"end": "00:01:50", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "manuals was that thick, and he left that"}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "on his desk. The title was UFO"}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:50", "text": "Propulsion Systems, Manual of"}, {"end": "00:01:58", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "Operations. We were flying something"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "that wasn't a satellite. What did it"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:58", "text": "look like? It looked like an egg. I"}, {"end": "00:02:06", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "personally had only one I would call bad"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:03", "text": "but not demonic experience. And that"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:06", "text": "experience was with a reptilian like"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "being that showed up in in my condo when"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "I lived in Washington DC. And the other"}, {"end": "00:02:19", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "I can't identify because it was"}, {"end": "00:02:22", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "shrouded. It was wearing a cloak. A"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:19", "text": "hood. A hood. Yeah. A cloak and a hood."}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:22", "text": "And they showed up one night and they"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "just I woke up cop and they go, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:02:31", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "don't don't mind us. We just want to let"}, {"end": "00:02:33", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "you know that we know you moved.\""}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:31", "text": "And then I went to medical services. I"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:33", "text": "had something done here. And can I get"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "those records? I said, \"Sorry. Um, your"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "medical records are classified. You"}, {"end": "00:02:47", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "cannot have them.\""}, {"end": "00:02:49", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "Okay. Wait, they classified your own"}, {"end": "00:02:51", "start": "00:02:47", "text": "medical records? Implants are real."}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "Yeah, it's not a conspiracy theory. And"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:51", "text": "hybrids are real. That's not a"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "conspiracy theory."}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:03:00", "text": "Hi, Chris. Uh, my name is John. When I"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "was like really young back in 2003, me"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "and my friend were shooting um BB guns"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "and pellet guns in his backyard and in"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "Mission Viejo. It was during the middle"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "of the day probably around 11:00 noon"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "and this golden"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "glowing almost like eggshaped"}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "something and it had an aura around it."}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "It was also eggshaped like sitting"}, {"end": "00:03:32", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "upright and it was about the size of a"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "Volkswagen bug and it was floating over"}, {"end": "00:03:38", "start": "00:03:32", "text": "my friend's house really slow and I"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "wasn't afraid of it. I saw my friend saw"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:38", "text": "it. Um, of course, back at the time, we"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "didn't have cell phones to take pictures"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "of it. So, I told him to run inside,"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "hurry up, grab a camera, grab a camera."}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "And he didn't have one, unfortunately."}, {"end": "00:03:53", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, today I am joined"}, {"end": "00:04:27", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "by the incomparable uh John Ramirez,"}, {"end": "00:04:30", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "former CIA officer, 25 year um career"}, {"end": "00:04:32", "start": "00:04:27", "text": "with the CIA, which is incredibly"}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:30", "text": "impressive. There's a lot of things that"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:32", "text": "I'd like to talk to uh you about today."}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "A lot of things that I refrained"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "mentioning while we were having"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "interactions in the last, you know, 24"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "hours because I wanted to save it for"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "here. Uh but I appreciate you coming"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "into the skiff and welcome. Well, thanks"}, {"end": "00:04:51", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "very much, Chris, for having me here."}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "I've seen your podcast uh myself and I I"}, {"end": "00:04:55", "start": "00:04:51", "text": "really like the way you conduct"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "interviews and I really love all of this"}, {"end": "00:05:00", "start": "00:04:55", "text": "I would call it lab equipment. Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:05:03", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "this is very similar to what I had in my"}, {"end": "00:05:05", "start": "00:05:00", "text": "electronic intelligence lab at CIA"}, {"end": "00:05:07", "start": "00:05:03", "text": "headquarters with the addition of"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:05", "text": "receivers and other signal processing"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:07", "text": "equipment, but basically you have all of"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "the components required to do signals"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "analysis right here. That's interesting."}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "I noticed you gravitating towards this"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "uh yesterday as I gave you the tour of"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "the office and you like a moth to a"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "flame came right up to these things. You"}, {"end": "00:05:28", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "were able to recognize a lot of the"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "equipment. So, you know, as as much as"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:28", "text": "this is purely aesthetic, you know, for"}, {"end": "00:05:36", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "uh for this podcast, I'm glad to know"}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "that in the event where I needed to do"}, {"end": "00:05:40", "start": "00:05:36", "text": "signal analysis, it could come in handy."}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "And if you need a signals analyst, I'm"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:40", "text": "here. All right. Well, hired. Definitely"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "hired. Um John, I'd like to maybe for"}, {"end": "00:05:53", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "the audience at home, just if you could"}, {"end": "00:05:56", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "give me the brief sort of pitch of what"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:53", "text": "you did at the CIA. um what your job was"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:56", "text": "and how you got interested in the"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "UFO/UAP"}, {"end": "00:06:08", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "phenomenon. Uh within that, you know,"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "context, I was a uh electronic"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:08", "text": "intelligence analyst uh elint"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "el. And that's one of the branches of"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "signal intelligence or sigant. And this"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "branch of sigant deals with radar"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "signals uh signals coming from missile"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "seekers. uh signals associated with"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "weapon systems. So the purpose was to"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "collect and analyze these signals,"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "process the signals and then to be able"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "to determine the capabilities of a"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:36", "text": "weapon system just based on the signals."}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "So in that sense we were reverse"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "engineering the weapon system just based"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "on the capabilities of that system to be"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "able to detect, track and engage"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "targets. target being if it's an"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "adversary adversary system, it will be"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "our planes for example. And so that's"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "very valuable in the determination of"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "what kind of counter measures we need to"}, {"end": "00:07:08", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "deploy in order to defeat an adversar's"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "ability to detect our aircraft and to"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:08", "text": "keep our aircraft safe. So that was just"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "a um in a short uh description, that's"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "what I did. Wow. Now, as to how I got"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "involved with UFO UAP topic, um the el"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "uh discipline has very little to do with"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "UAPs, UFOs. However, the systems that I"}, {"end": "00:07:35", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "was assigned"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "uh did detect an anomalous uh signatures"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:35", "text": "when they were tracking ballistic"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "missiles of their own manufacturer. Uh"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "they were accompanied by uh strange"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "lights uh strange objects. Tagalongs."}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "Tagalongs. Right. And they were called"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "uh the domes of light phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "by FTD back in the day. And so when the"}, {"end": "00:08:01", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "Soviet Union would launch a ballistic"}, {"end": "00:08:05", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "missile test, uh these domes of light"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:01", "text": "would accompany the missile. And uh so"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:05", "text": "that was very similar to uh what"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "occurred with uh for example the Atlas"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "launch that uh Bob Jacobs talked about."}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "Hair's going up on the back of my neck"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "right now. Thinking about it, just"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "remembering that day, I saw something"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "that was so strange that it changed my"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "life. In November of 1964, Jacobs was"}, {"end": "00:08:29", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "assigned to film a Vandenberg missile"}, {"end": "00:08:31", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "launch using a brand new"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:29", "text": "state-of-the-art telescope developed at"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:31", "text": "Boston University."}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "Something flew into the frame. What I"}, {"end": "00:08:42", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "saw was a circular object was a classic"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "flying saucer and it shot a beam of"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:42", "text": "something or a warhead. You have to"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "imagine this thing is flying along at"}, {"end": "00:08:49", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "several thousand miles an hour. This"}, {"end": "00:08:51", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "stuff is flying along and something"}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:49", "text": "comes into the frame and chasing it. The"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:51", "text": "flight was disrupted and uh parts of the"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "missile was destroyed. So it's similar"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "to what we saw in the Soviet Union. And"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "so uh I was assigned a particular radar"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "in the Soviet Union that was very unique"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "to the Soviet Union and we found out"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "that the purpose of the radar was"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "atmospheric anomalous research."}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "So the waveforms were completely"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "different from any other Soviet uh air"}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "defense system or ballistic missile"}, {"end": "00:09:30", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "defense system. And that you mean that"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "they were made to detect? They weren't"}, {"end": "00:09:34", "start": "00:09:30", "text": "made to detect anything that was"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "standard, the wave system that you're"}, {"end": "00:09:39", "start": "00:09:34", "text": "that you're referring to. Uh, no,"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "because there were other radars on that"}, {"end": "00:09:43", "start": "00:09:39", "text": "test range that were more like what they"}, {"end": "00:09:46", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "deployed, right? This system was never"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:43", "text": "deployed operationally other than at"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:46", "text": "this location. Wow. And so this radar uh"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "to this day is still operational. And it"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "did uh was it was ignored um primarily"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "after the Soviet Union fell. Um less and"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "less testing was done and uh it wasn't"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "really used that much until about 2016."}, {"end": "00:10:15", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "I understand that uh President Putin uh"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "ordered that this radar system be"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:15", "text": "completely renovated, refurbished, and"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "brought back online. Wow. And I believe"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "it is back online based on the overhead"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "photography I was able to see uh of this"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "particular radar system on Google Earth."}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "Wow, that's very interesting. So I mean"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "being in that position, you had a job"}, {"end": "00:10:42", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "that allowed you uh access to an immense"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "repertoire of of intel. I mean that was"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:42", "text": "part of your job was collecting"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "intelligence. That's what the CIA does"}, {"end": "00:10:51", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "best."}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "When you're in a position like that,"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:51", "text": "do you sometimes come across things that"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "even surprise you?"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "Um, certainly. Um,"}, {"end": "00:11:04", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "that's the thing that an intelligence"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "analyst has to do. It's part of the"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:04", "text": "trade craft is not get trapped into the"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "same old ways of thinking. Uh, we have"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "to employ critical thinking. And every"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "time I looked at a radar signal, I have"}, {"end": "00:11:21", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "to dismiss what I've seen before because"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "I'm going to see something new. And it's"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:21", "text": "particularly the radar systems we were"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "looking at um were in development and"}, {"end": "00:11:31", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "constantly improved. And so every time"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "there was a missile launch, I would look"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:31", "text": "for those changes, detect the changes in"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "the waveforms and then by detecting"}, {"end": "00:11:40", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "those changes and processing the"}, {"end": "00:11:43", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "waveforms, we could then determine if"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:40", "text": "there is a new capability coming online"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:43", "text": "for that particular radar system. So in"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "that sense, yes, we had to um employ"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "critical thinking and not get trapped"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "into the same ways of thinking about"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "that particular system. Otherwise, you"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "might miss it. You might dismiss it."}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "Yeah. So, you guys, we had we had chats"}, {"end": "00:12:04", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "about this like prior to the podcast,"}, {"end": "00:12:07", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "which is interesting, but like magicians"}, {"end": "00:12:11", "start": "00:12:04", "text": "have a lot to do with understanding"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:07", "text": "behavioral sciences and in that we have"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:11", "text": "to use those uh normal behaviors, so to"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "speak, in our favor to create a sort of"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "outcome. And that's not unlike a lot of"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "the work that you guys did as well. You"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "guys had to take information that, like"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "you said, you couldn't treat it like"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "normal information. You had to extract"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "from it what you could find useful and"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "then somehow use that to your advantage."}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "Is that would that be fair to say?"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "That's very accurate. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "that makes uh that makes you guys"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "magicians or it makes me a spy. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "sure which one. Maybe a little both."}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "Maybe a little of both. Um, so during"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "your time there, I mean, obviously"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "you're you're obviously looking at a lot"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "of anomalous activity and anomalous not"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "in the sense that it's necessarily"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "extraterrestrial, but that it's new to"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "you. But was there a point where you"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "encountered something you thought to be"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "extraterrestrial?"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "Um, yes. uh was talking about this"}, {"end": "00:13:18", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "particular radar and"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:13", "text": "this radar will come up and will start"}, {"end": "00:13:23", "start": "00:13:18", "text": "transmitting signals prior to the"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "launch. So we can detect that and we"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:23", "text": "know that the launch is being prepared"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "because uh in order to fire a ballistic"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "missile, you know, you have to put it on"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "the launch pad and you have to do things"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "to the missile um and to prepare it for"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "launch. And so we have telemetry signals"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "being tested before the launch. So we"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "knew that something was up. And in the"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "meantime, the radar was warming up, so"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "to speak, uh going through uh a series"}, {"end": "00:13:51", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "of waveform modes of operation, getting"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "it ready. And then the launch would"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "happen. We would detect that uh back"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "then through the defense support"}, {"end": "00:14:01", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "program, the DSP satellites that detect"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "uh infrared signatures of a launch. And"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:01", "text": "by comparing the DSP signatures,"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "telemetry signatures um and the radar"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "signals itself, uh we can primarily uh"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "pretty much reverse engineer the the"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "flight path. We knew we knew exactly um"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "how high the missile would go and we"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "knew how far it would go and we kind of"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "knew the impact point and meanwhile the"}, {"end": "00:14:31", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "radar is operating. Um and then after"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "the entire uh launch would be finished"}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:31", "text": "that is the missile impacted as planned"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "the radar would gradually shut down and"}, {"end": "00:14:42", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "it will go through the same kind of"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "pacing of shutting it down. So it might"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:42", "text": "do a few uh waveform modes to in prepare"}, {"end": "00:14:51", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "to shut shut down. So we can detect"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "that. But occasionally the radar would"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:51", "text": "pick up something else and it would"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "start tracking nothing that we could"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "determine that there was something up"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "there that was of interest to the"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "Soviets up in the up in their space and"}, {"end": "00:15:08", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "they would start tracking objects that"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "we could not determine what they were."}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:08", "text": "Well, they were going through the same"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "um iteration of waveforms as if there"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "was a real object there. Whoa. Uh so"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "that was our indication that you know"}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "this there's something up there that the"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "interest the Russians there something up"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "there to peique their interest enough"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "that they will continue operating the"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "radar and they probably themselves are"}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "wondering what's up there. Wow, that's"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "so interesting that you guys were"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "observing them observing something,"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "right? Well, right. And so that's when"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "FDD started analyzing, you know, what"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "could possibly be and that's when they"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "came up with the domes of light that"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "they were actually like uh liked"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "signatures, the orbs we would call orbs"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "today, but then there were domes of"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "light. That was the phrase that actually"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "if you look up old FTD documents they"}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "would refer to it as the domes of light."}, {"end": "00:16:05", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "Wow. So wow. That's when we determined"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "that yeah there was something up there"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:05", "text": "that of interest anomalous to the"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "Soviets"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "and that they were studying this as"}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "well. And later we did found out that"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "there actually were something there were"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "domes of light up there that we will"}, {"end": "00:16:24", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "call orbs. What what got what gave you"}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "that confirmation? Well, first of all,"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:24", "text": "uh we were able to actually see these"}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "orbs visually um not as a photograph,"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "right? But as measures of of intensity"}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "or radiance. Oh, actual actual like"}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "light signatures. Yes. Um so at the"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "beginning uh the detection system wasn't"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "capable of imaging anything like the way"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "we would think that we can see through"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "an IR camera or something like that but"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "they would detect radians and it was"}, {"end": "00:16:59", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "measured uh as watts to radian meter"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "squared and basically this just a number"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:59", "text": "but it would detect a series of these"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "numbers and we can determine where the"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "intensity was. So you have time on one"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "scale and intensity on the other scale."}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "And so all of a sudden the intensity"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "ramped up. There was something there"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "highly intense and then would ramp back"}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "down and maybe there's another object of"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "intensity and ramp back down. Uh later"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "we had the capabilities uh capability of"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "actually imaging uh what these were and"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "that's when we start detecting orbs."}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "Wow. And uh as many witnesses of these"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "orbs would tell you, what we detected"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "through these systems"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "was an object that uh invisible light"}, {"end": "00:17:46", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "600 nanome was the wavelength and that"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "600 nanometers corresponds to the orange"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:46", "text": "color in the visual range and we also"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "got uh scientific information as well as"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "to the radiance and other"}, {"end": "00:18:00", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "characteristics of these objects."}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "Wow. Yeah. And that adds up with I mean"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:00", "text": "a numerous amount of cases and and um"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "experiences with craft. You know the"}, {"end": "00:18:12", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "orange light were from from Travis"}, {"end": "00:18:14", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "Walton to Bob Lazar to Chris Bledsoe to"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:12", "text": "so many others. And so what you were"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:14", "text": "observing was yeah the early UFOs so to"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "speak. Right. And what surprised us"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "though is that um we were aware of"}, {"end": "00:18:28", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "structured craft. I'm pretty certain we"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "were aware of structured that is"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:28", "text": "something with a hard surface and by by"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "by you were aware of what do you mean by"}, {"end": "00:18:36", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "that? That means there were previous"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "collections of structured craft. I see."}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:36", "text": "And of course there was a whole uh body"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "of collection from photographs by"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "civilians and other sources in the"}, {"end": "00:18:49", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "government where they actually saw"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "structured craft. collections of these"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:49", "text": "photographs like McMinnville, a few of"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "those early 50s and 60s like hatshaped"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "ones and and all of those you're"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "referring to. Those um detections"}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "occurred long after Project Blue Book"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "stopped ostensibly stopped because CIA"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "never stopped its own project to"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "investigate UFOs. Contrary to what the"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "CIA may publicly say, there was always"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "an interest in that. Um, so throughout"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "the course of studying these structured"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "craft, we had a pretty good idea of what"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "was up there in terms of something that"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "was aerodynamic. For example, something"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "that could fly in our atmosphere."}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "However, these orbs were not structured."}, {"end": "00:19:39", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "They were energy, light energy, and yet"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "they behaved as if they were structured."}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:39", "text": "that is they flew in a certain type of"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "trajectory, a certain velocity and they"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "maneuvered."}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "So we knew that there weren't"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "satellites. So satellites though they"}, {"end": "00:19:55", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "are capable of station keeping there's"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "enough fuel on board to adjust its orbit"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:55", "text": "so that the orbit won't decay and they"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "can maneuver a little bit but they're"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "not going to make these 90\u00b0 turns, you"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "know, and shoot straight up or anything"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "like that. Uh they won't exhibit those"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "uh five observables. Yeah, a satellite"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "won't do that. No, but these craft did."}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "And unlike um something solid like tic"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "tac, you know, these light orbs were"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "doing the same thing. Wow. So that's"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "what piqued CIA's interest. What are"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "these orbs?"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "And as we progressed in our ability to"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "detect these objects because we made"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "advances in our constellations"}, {"end": "00:20:38", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "uh that we have uh up in space, we were"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "better able to actually determine the"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:38", "text": "characteristics of these orbs."}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "And so that led to um what I call the"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "orb working group. Now that's not the"}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "official name of the working group. It"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "had a official name which I don't know"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "cuz I refused to be read into it"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "purposely. I didn't want to know. I knew"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "enough so that if I knew more than I"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "knew at that time, I wouldn't be"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "speaking with you right now. That's"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "right. I would not be talking. As soon"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "as you're right into it, you can't talk"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "about it. I can't talk about it. But"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "because I knew about it and I had enough"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "information, credible information"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "because I sent two of my engineers to"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "this working group. I got enough"}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "information as to what they were looking"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "at. And so it was these orange orbs. And"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "so I got a briefing on these orbs at a"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "very lower classification level, not top"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "top secret, but much lower. And it was"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "still classified. But that's why I"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "included in my very few first view"}, {"end": "00:21:38", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "graphs or I say view graphs that dates"}, {"end": "00:21:41", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "me my PowerPoint presentations my"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:38", "text": "PowerPoint slides I included the"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:41", "text": "existence of the orb working group as"}, {"end": "00:21:48", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "this is the way we would study orbs and"}, {"end": "00:21:50", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "the way I describe it was the way"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:48", "text": "actually it happened and so I submitted"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:50", "text": "to CIA for their review and they came"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "back unredacted saying yeah you can talk"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "about this in public so that's why you"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "know that there was an orb working"}, {"end": "00:22:05", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "group. Wow. And that started around 2003"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "2004. Do you think that that orb working"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "group are of the same people that"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "studied Chris Bledso's case? I don't"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "have that direct information. I do I"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "don't know. Would you assume that? Uh I"}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "think that's a safe assumption. Let's"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "put it that way. Uhhuh. Uh but this orb"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "working group uh included members of the"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "entire intelligence community. So"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "outside of the CIA, outside of CIA, NGA"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "was the lead because it was in on uh it"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "the orbs were found on NGA data since"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "they owned the data. Uh they were the"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "lead and then we participated with NGA,"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "DIA, NRA, everybody. Yeah. Along with"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "our contractors, right? And they met in"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "St. Louis, Missouri, which is uh NGA"}, {"end": "00:22:52", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "uh NGA West. So there's two"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "headquarters. One is NGA East back in"}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:52", "text": "the Washington DC area and they're in"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "Springfield, Virginia, and the other is"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "NGA West, which is in St. Louis,"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "Missouri. So, they all gathered in St."}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "Louis, Missouri, and then went to other"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "places as the working group progressed."}, {"end": "00:23:09", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "That's very interesting. It's really"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "interesting to know that like even for"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:09", "text": "an agency like the CIA,"}, {"end": "00:23:18", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "the nuts and bolts stuff, they're like,"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "\"No, we understand that. We have that.\""}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:18", "text": "Yes. This stuff is anomalous. And it"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "often makes me wonder if there if"}, {"end": "00:23:28", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "there's a if there's some type of"}, {"end": "00:23:30", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "extraterrestrial being out there that"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:28", "text": "also experiences UAP, you know, an"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:30", "text": "unidentified anomalous phenomenon that"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "they see and they're like, \"We can't"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "explain that either.\" So, one wonders,"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "one wonders. And I know that uh we have"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "something um I would say this much. Uh"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "one of my engineers, uh I'll use his"}, {"end": "00:23:50", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "first name. I'll just use first names."}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "These are actual first names. His first"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:50", "text": "name was Bob. U Virginia Tech graduate"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "had a masters in electrical engineering."}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "One of my uh primary engineers who"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "worked in my branch and um he received a"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "lot of materials. They I had two"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "engineers, Allan A Len, Allan and Bob."}, {"end": "00:24:12", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "So these two guys uh were sent to the"}, {"end": "00:24:15", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "orb working group. They got briefed into"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:12", "text": "a compartment dealing with everything"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:15", "text": "CIA knew about UFOs. Whoa. At the time."}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "Whoa. So they got read into that. Um and"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "so they asked me You sent them there."}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "Yes, I was asked to send them there. You"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "were asked to send them there. Yes."}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "Because there was a lead uh subject"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "matter expert in our parent office who"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "was leading CIA's effort. And so he"}, {"end": "00:24:40", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "reached out back into the agency and see"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "who the other subject matter experts"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:40", "text": "might be. And the way we got involved"}, {"end": "00:24:49", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "with this prior to the working group was"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "that we were looking at the possibility"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:49", "text": "of it being the orbs being some kind of"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "so a Russian technology. Right. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:25:02", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "Russian countermeasures, ballistic"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "missile countermeasures or uh we knew"}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:02", "text": "that the Russians had something called"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "stealth plasma stealth, right? And these"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "are like actual external pods that they"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "can hang on the hard points of certain"}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "aircraft to create a plasma field in"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "order to do what stealth does is to"}, {"end": "00:25:25", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "disrupt the uh fire control solution to"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "shoot that aircraft down. Mhm. And so"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:25", "text": "that's what stealth does. You don't want"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "to be shot down. So you want to either"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "uh delay that fire control solution or"}, {"end": "00:25:38", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "disrupt it so that the aircraft stays"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "intact and safe do its mission. So we"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:38", "text": "knew that they had these types of"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "devices and we we ruled that out. It"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "couldn't have been plasma stealth. First"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "of all what we detected was out in"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "space. Oh. And so these aircraft they"}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "don't fly in space."}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:26:05", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "Most days I'm neck deep in files,"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "interviews, and"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:05", "text": "whatever that thing was. But not today."}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "Today's quiet. And on these quiet days,"}, {"end": "00:26:15", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "I like to feel good, which is why I shop"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "Huckberry. Not to mention, they partner"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:15", "text": "with all sorts of in-house brands as a"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "curator of things that I would actually"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "wear and use. It just makes everything"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "easier. I know whatever I pick is going"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "to look good, feel good, and last. I"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "just don't have to overthink it. It's"}, {"end": "00:26:33", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "already my style."}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "They're the one-stop men's shop for"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:33", "text": "highquality apparel, footwear, gear, and"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "content. A lifestyle and outdoor"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "retailer, sure, but mostly they just get"}, {"end": "00:26:45", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "it right."}, {"end": "00:26:51", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "And on days like today,"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:49", "text": "some mysteries can wait. Click the link"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:51", "text": "in my description to shop Huckberry."}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "And even the MiG 31, um, it it went up"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:03", "text": "to 123,000 ft before it ran out of air"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "and had to come back down. So, it was"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "just a test flight just to see how high"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "it would go. I have no idea what the"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "condition of the pilot was, but they"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "went up to 123,000 ft. has the altitude"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "record for an air breathing craft to"}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "this day and had to come back down. This"}, {"end": "00:27:27", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "is a Mig 31 Foxhound. So, we knew it"}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "wasn't that. Uh we looked at uh another"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:27", "text": "aircraft uh called the uh Sukoy SU34"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "fullback. It wasn't that. Um and so we"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "ruled out any kind of air breathing"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "aircraft that would have plasma stealth"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "on it. So, we knew it wasn't that. And"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "it was also moving an like uh it it was"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "moving intelligently. It was moving"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "intelligently. An aircraft can move"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "intelligently because it's piloted. But"}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "but anomalous anomalously like it was"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "not at that altitude. Right. And it was"}, {"end": "00:28:01", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "performing maneuvers that Exactly. I"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "mean it would tear the aircraft apart,"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:01", "text": "right? Uh so we ruled that out and so"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "what's left over um that's what they"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "were looking at. What could this be?"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "Mhm. Now, in the course of their study,"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "they asked me for a safe. So, I got them"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "a standard governmentissued safe. They"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "come in two beautiful colors. I call it"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "bureaucratic black."}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "And uh that's their one of the uh"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "colors. Really? Yeah. And uh so I got"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "him a black safe. That's it's a great"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "it's a great uh clothing line. Uh"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "that comes in bureaucratic black. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:28:40", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "Um and you get you can get a gray one."}, {"end": "00:28:42", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "government gray and bureaucrat black."}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "Government gray, you know, and you look"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:42", "text": "up at the GSA catalog and you'll see"}, {"end": "00:28:48", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "these General Services Administration"}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "provides furniture for the government,"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "the entire government. You'll see these"}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "safes and has a combination lock and"}, {"end": "00:28:57", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "several drawers and everything. So, I"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "got them a safe and they started getting"}, {"end": "00:29:02", "start": "00:28:57", "text": "materials from this working group,"}, {"end": "00:29:04", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "compartmented materials on the UFO"}, {"end": "00:29:06", "start": "00:29:02", "text": "program. They had to go in the safe."}, {"end": "00:29:07", "start": "00:29:04", "text": "Now, one of my engineers when I was"}, {"end": "00:29:09", "start": "00:29:06", "text": "going with this, Bob, one of my"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:07", "text": "engineers was looking at one of the"}, {"end": "00:29:15", "start": "00:29:09", "text": "manuals. It was that thick. And he left"}, {"end": "00:29:17", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "that on his desk face front just as you"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:15", "text": "have this folder here. And I was able to"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:17", "text": "read the title."}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:19", "text": "And it the title was UFO propulsion"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "systems. Whoa. Manual of operations."}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "So, if you have a UFO propulsion system,"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "manual of operations, that tells me that"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:30", "text": "somebody reverse engineered some craft"}, {"end": "00:29:37", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "and it's that thick. And it's that"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "thick. All right. So,"}, {"end": "00:29:41", "start": "00:29:37", "text": "I have that piece of data. So, what"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "happened to that? What did Well, uh, I"}, {"end": "00:29:46", "start": "00:29:41", "text": "looked at the title. Bob had his back"}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "turned. He turned around, saw me looking"}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:46", "text": "at the title, immediately grabbed that,"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "placed it front cover down so I couldn't"}, {"end": "00:29:57", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "read the cover. Sorry about that, boss."}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "And, and then immediately put it back in"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:57", "text": "the safe and locked it up. Oh my gosh."}, {"end": "00:30:04", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "So I know that they were briefed into"}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "something that we already reverse"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:04", "text": "engineered. Whoa. So that lends lends"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "credence to a lot of witnesses saying,"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "\"Yes, we have reverse engineered craft.\""}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "So I can say based on that manual, and"}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "these weren't like uh defense"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "intelligence reference documents were"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "just like a dozen pages like white"}, {"end": "00:30:27", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "papers. Yeah. No, this was a manual."}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "Whoa. Somebody worked on that manual and"}, {"end": "00:30:33", "start": "00:30:27", "text": "uh it looked dated in a sense that it"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "looked like not nothing current. Looked"}, {"end": "00:30:39", "start": "00:30:33", "text": "like it was like decades old. 50s60s."}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "Well, I would say maybe not 50s. Okay."}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:39", "text": "But maybe 70s, 80s. Sure. About about"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "that time frame. What color was the uh"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "was the book? Uh it was"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "almost that color what you have there."}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "It was like a like DIA drab. There's"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "another good one. DIA draft. It's It's"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "like DIA published a lot of manuals that"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "are very thick. Mhm. And they come in"}, {"end": "00:31:06", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "different colors. I don't know if the"}, {"end": "00:31:09", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "colors mean anything. Yeah. Um but the"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:06", "text": "point being that it was a manual, not a"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:09", "text": "white paper, not a not a um talking"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "points or anything like that. Yeah. It"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "was a manual. Somebody did some actual"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "work on a UFO propulsion system to the"}, {"end": "00:31:25", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "point that they were able to write a"}, {"end": "00:31:27", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "manual of operation for it. That's"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:25", "text": "incredible and seems like an incredible"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:27", "text": "oversight on Bob's behalf to just leave"}, {"end": "00:31:35", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "that lying around. Yes. And had I looked"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "into it, had I opened it, Uhhuh. I would"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:35", "text": "be charged with a security violation."}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "Right. Cuz Bob would have to he's he"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "would have to report me. But seeing the"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "title was okay. um inadvertent, right?"}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "Inadvertent. And then he took measures"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "to to secure the I see document. He"}, {"end": "00:31:54", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "would have been reprimanded anyways as"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "well, obviously. That is uh that's"}, {"end": "00:32:00", "start": "00:31:54", "text": "crazy. Is there is there a part of you"}, {"end": "00:32:03", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "that regrets not being read into that"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:00", "text": "like for your own sort of knowing? Not"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "at all. Because um you have a building a"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "CIA headquarters in our many many"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "outuildings. We're not just at CIA"}, {"end": "00:32:13", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "headquarters. There are several"}, {"end": "00:32:16", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "buildings in Northern Virginia that"}, {"end": "00:32:20", "start": "00:32:13", "text": "constitute CIA. Um,"}, {"end": "00:32:24", "start": "00:32:16", "text": "not at all because"}, {"end": "00:32:25", "start": "00:32:20", "text": "I would say that being read into it um"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:24", "text": "would have prevented me from speaking"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:25", "text": "out, but we are an intelligence agency"}, {"end": "00:32:35", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "and you have intelligence analysts and"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "collectors"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:35", "text": "working there. And what we do best is"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "collect intelligence. So, you can be in"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "the building, not read into something,"}, {"end": "00:32:45", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "and be able to discern what's going on"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "if you're very clever about it. There's"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:45", "text": "enough"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:47", "text": "uh water cooler cafeteria talk that you"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "pick up on things. Wow. So, I didn't"}, {"end": "00:32:57", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "need to be read into it. I knew enough"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "based on my earlier career of working"}, {"end": "00:33:03", "start": "00:32:57", "text": "with these domes of light phenomenon um"}, {"end": "00:33:06", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "and working with that particular radar."}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:03", "text": "um actually met a woman who is uh an"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:06", "text": "operations officer and she complained to"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "me, I got sent up to this mountain and"}, {"end": "00:33:14", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "they told me to look for these domes of"}, {"end": "00:33:17", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "light and I apologized to her and said,"}, {"end": "00:33:20", "start": "00:33:14", "text": "\"Yeah, that was us.\" Yeah, we needed"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:17", "text": "collection uh a human collection um"}, {"end": "00:33:25", "start": "00:33:20", "text": "using one of our operations officers to"}, {"end": "00:33:28", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "go up a mountain, set up and look for"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:25", "text": "these domes of light. We also had a"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:28", "text": "collection system we built. Was that"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "successful? I'm not sure because she"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "didn't tell me whether she found"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "anything or not. Oh, wow. So, you were"}, {"end": "00:33:37", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "able to send her out, but you weren't"}, {"end": "00:33:40", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "able to find out whether she saw I met"}, {"end": "00:33:42", "start": "00:33:37", "text": "her um not as a planned meeting, but we"}, {"end": "00:33:44", "start": "00:33:40", "text": "were taking the same course and the"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:42", "text": "course had nothing to do with UAPs or"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:44", "text": "anything. Huh. But she was in the same"}, {"end": "00:33:51", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "course and um so she can play, you know,"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "the craziest thing I ever did in my CIA"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:51", "text": "career so far, and she was a a younger"}, {"end": "00:33:57", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "woman uh was they sent me up in a"}, {"end": "00:33:59", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "mountain. I was looking for these domes"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:57", "text": "of light. I don't know what that was."}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:59", "text": "And I explained to her, \"Oh yeah, it's"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "about these anomalous objects that we"}, {"end": "00:34:07", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "detected over the Soviet Union. That's"}, {"end": "00:34:09", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "why you were sent out there.\" And I"}, {"end": "00:34:11", "start": "00:34:07", "text": "apologized to her. Sorry. Wow. She said"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:09", "text": "that was a pretty pretty rough um kind"}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:11", "text": "of mission for her to go on. Wow. So"}, {"end": "00:34:19", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "strange. So yeah, so to answer your"}, {"end": "00:34:21", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "question, I had enough information a a"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:19", "text": "priority to know that there was"}, {"end": "00:34:27", "start": "00:34:21", "text": "something going on. Had enough uh"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "ability to um collect other data."}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:27", "text": "example, um, Russian early warning, uh,"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "ballistic missile early warning system"}, {"end": "00:34:38", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "detected these these orbs and they"}, {"end": "00:34:40", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "thought that it was US sneak attack and"}, {"end": "00:34:42", "start": "00:34:38", "text": "so they brought up their alert level and"}, {"end": "00:34:44", "start": "00:34:40", "text": "when they bring up their alert level, we"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:42", "text": "can detect the fact that they brought up"}, {"end": "00:34:49", "start": "00:34:44", "text": "their alert level and you have these"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "missiles uh, that were needed to be"}, {"end": "00:34:54", "start": "00:34:49", "text": "preped and so there are certain"}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "indications that we are able to detect a"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:54", "text": "launch might be occurring. Yeah, it's"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "hard to hide the signature of a major"}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "retaliatory strike, right? So, they were"}, {"end": "00:35:09", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "prepping. They didn't go all the way up"}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "to Defcon, their version of Defcon to"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:09", "text": "actually start launching, but we were"}, {"end": "00:35:17", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "able to detect that. And so, because we"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "were able to detect it, uh, Washington"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:17", "text": "called Moscow and saying, \"What the"}, {"end": "00:35:22", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "hell's going on with you guys?\" So, what"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "the hell is going on with you guys? What"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:22", "text": "are these things? And we don't know what"}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:24", "text": "they are. So, you know, there's there's"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "a ability at the National Military"}, {"end": "00:35:32", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "Command Center in the Pentagon. Yeah. To"}, {"end": "00:35:34", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "communicate with their counterparts"}, {"end": "00:35:37", "start": "00:35:32", "text": "because there is there is a treaty sort"}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:34", "text": "of like an agreement in regards to"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:37", "text": "nuclear arms. Well, start treaty that"}, {"end": "00:35:46", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "exactly that if there is any detected"}, {"end": "00:35:48", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "anomalous or unidentified objects as"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:46", "text": "it's put in the treaty that they tell"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:48", "text": "each other about it instead of"}, {"end": "00:35:55", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "retaliating immediately. Exactly. So,"}, {"end": "00:35:57", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "that mechanism worked. Mhm. at that"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:55", "text": "point and they were able to lower their"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:57", "text": "alert level. But then comes the"}, {"end": "00:36:03", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "question, what were those things that we"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "detected that the Russians detected?"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:03", "text": "Right. Right. And so that's when I wrote"}, {"end": "00:36:10", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "the memo to uh at that time he served as"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "the deputy secretary of defense, John"}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:10", "text": "Deutsch. Mhm. And so I wrote him a memo"}, {"end": "00:36:19", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "because his briefer was asked by him,"}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:17", "text": "we want to know what happened in this"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:19", "text": "particular incident. So it came to my"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "branch which looked at the"}, {"end": "00:36:27", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "anti-bballistic missile systems, the"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "ballistic missile defense systems in"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:27", "text": "Russia. So it landed on my desk and I"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "wrote up the memo for uh Deputy"}, {"end": "00:36:37", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "Secretary of Defense John Deutsch and um"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "we're going to give we were going to"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:37", "text": "give it to the briefer, but I think we"}, {"end": "00:36:44", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "actually delivered it in person. I see."}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "My colleague and I um we delivered it in"}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:44", "text": "person to the Pentagon, so they're aware"}, {"end": "00:36:52", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "of it. Mhm. Um that's I mean that's"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "really fascinating and it seems you know"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:52", "text": "it doesn't it it doesn't surprise me at"}, {"end": "00:36:57", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "all like when you hear about all all"}, {"end": "00:36:59", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "this stuff you know as much as I want it"}, {"end": "00:37:01", "start": "00:36:57", "text": "to surprise me I'm like yeah it's"}, {"end": "00:37:03", "start": "00:36:59", "text": "obviously you know obviously if you guys"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:01", "text": "have the capability with all of the"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:03", "text": "intel collection devices that you have"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "whether it's satellite or whether it's"}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "human intel or whether it's you know"}, {"end": "00:37:13", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "remote viewing or whatever it is you're"}, {"end": "00:37:15", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "going to see something eventually right"}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:13", "text": "um this brings me to something that"}, {"end": "00:37:19", "start": "00:37:15", "text": "happened to you in 2001 one. Yes. I want"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "to talk about this because this to me is"}, {"end": "00:37:25", "start": "00:37:19", "text": "one of the most fascinating little tales"}, {"end": "00:37:28", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "that I've ever heard in that you were"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:25", "text": "invited by, let me get this straight"}, {"end": "00:37:33", "start": "00:37:28", "text": "here just to make sure I got my ducks in"}, {"end": "00:37:35", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "a row. Um, you encountered an officer"}, {"end": "00:37:36", "start": "00:37:33", "text": "within the office of the chief"}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:35", "text": "scientists in the director of science"}, {"end": "00:37:40", "start": "00:37:36", "text": "and technology"}, {"end": "00:37:42", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "and that he told you about a symposium"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:40", "text": "that was being held that you should"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:42", "text": "attend. Mhm. And this symposium, if I'm"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "not mistaken, was uh at BDM. No. No."}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "Where? Uh this was at a hotel. Oh, this"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "was at a hotel. Yep. It's uh it's in"}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "Tyson's Corner, Virginia. Oh, and um"}, {"end": "00:38:01", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "Wait. Okay. So, this is separate from"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "the other meeting. I see that. That was"}, {"end": "00:38:04", "start": "00:38:01", "text": "a separate meeting. That was separate."}, {"end": "00:38:05", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "Okay. Well, we we'll get to that one."}, {"end": "00:38:07", "start": "00:38:04", "text": "But this one at the hotel, is that"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:05", "text": "something standard that happens like"}, {"end": "00:38:12", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "these briefings in these hotels, these"}, {"end": "00:38:14", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "symposiums? is that hotels seem to be"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:12", "text": "the place to discuss this stuff. I don't"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:14", "text": "know why. Um I know Lulu Lzando has"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "stated that you know he met people at a"}, {"end": "00:38:25", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "hotel. Mhm. Yep. Uh I think it was the"}, {"end": "00:38:27", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "Marriott Gateway in Rosland, Virginia."}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:25", "text": "He mentions that one and other hotels. I"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:27", "text": "I don't know what it is about hotels and"}, {"end": "00:38:33", "start": "00:38:29", "text": "tele community, but we like going to"}, {"end": "00:38:35", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "hotels. Okay. I don't know why, but uh"}, {"end": "00:38:37", "start": "00:38:33", "text": "this was an unclassified uh one day"}, {"end": "00:38:40", "start": "00:38:35", "text": "symposium. I had no idea what the topic"}, {"end": "00:38:42", "start": "00:38:37", "text": "was. the officer from the office of"}, {"end": "00:38:44", "start": "00:38:40", "text": "chief scientist. I use first names. His"}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:42", "text": "first name was Tom."}, {"end": "00:38:48", "start": "00:38:44", "text": "Uh I might use the last initials because"}, {"end": "00:38:51", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "we usually refer to ourselves as like"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:48", "text": "I'm known as John R and the CIA. We use"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:51", "text": "first name and last initial. Tom K."}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "Okay. Out there Tom. Hi. But you know,"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "Tom K invited me. And uh I had no idea"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "what it was about, but he knew I was"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "interested. And how did he know? because"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "I had a plush toy of a a green bendable"}, {"end": "00:39:15", "start": "00:39:09", "text": "plush toy I set up on my old-fashioned,"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "you know, CRT Dell monitor. Uhhuh. And"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:15", "text": "it was a gray alien, but it was colored"}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "green. It was It's just a toy, right?"}, {"end": "00:39:24", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "So, he knew he was interested in that."}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "And um so he invited me said, \"You might"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:24", "text": "want to show up this one.\" Was Was he"}, {"end": "00:39:31", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "interested in this stuff? I don't know."}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "We I never really followed up with him"}, {"end": "00:39:37", "start": "00:39:31", "text": "to see what his interest was. Okay. Um"}, {"end": "00:39:39", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "but he knew I was interested and so um"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:37", "text": "he ran something called the posttock"}, {"end": "00:39:47", "start": "00:39:39", "text": "program at CIA where we we sponsored um"}, {"end": "00:39:49", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "post-doal studies of these PhDs"}, {"end": "00:39:51", "start": "00:39:47", "text": "and they were invited as well. It wasn't"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:49", "text": "the invisible college or anything. These"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:51", "text": "are just uh PhDs that CIA sponsored for"}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "their PhDs and then they're following"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "through. Yeah. Possibly later to offer"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "them jobs. Yeah. Recruits. And that's a"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "good way to think about it. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:40:07", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "Recruits even like I mean you hear about"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "this and I don't want to use the term"}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:07", "text": "grooming but it's like you hear about a"}, {"end": "00:40:13", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "lot of this as well in the intelligence"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "community that they vet a lot of uh"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:13", "text": "young people um early on that show a"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "significant talent. Um Harold Malgren"}, {"end": "00:40:25", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "being you know um comes to mind because"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "that seemed like that was his process as"}, {"end": "00:40:29", "start": "00:40:25", "text": "well. So that's nothing new. So go to"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "the hotel"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:29", "text": "um up to this um ballroom. I guess you"}, {"end": "00:40:36", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "would call it a conference room in this"}, {"end": "00:40:40", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "hotel in Tyson's Corner and um there"}, {"end": "00:40:43", "start": "00:40:36", "text": "were no security officers there look for"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:40", "text": "no and I just wrapped my badge up and"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:43", "text": "put it in my pocket because I didn't"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "need a badge to attend and I sat myself"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "down and there was an agenda being"}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "passed out and a signup sheet and I"}, {"end": "00:40:57", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "signed my name uh full true full name uh"}, {"end": "00:40:59", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "my phone number at CIA and where I"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:57", "text": "worked at CIA all that it was in there."}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:59", "text": "looked at the other names and there were"}, {"end": "00:41:07", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "like people from universities because"}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "they had.edu as their email address. I"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:07", "text": "see. And their full names. I then"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "noticed that other than Tom K, it was"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "another officer I knew, Jim L. Jim L is"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "significant in that he chaired the"}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "scientific and technical intelligence"}, {"end": "00:41:28", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "committee, one of the major committees"}, {"end": "00:41:29", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "in the uh back when the DCI ran the"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:28", "text": "intelligence community. So, this is a"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:29", "text": "major committee. Um, and he was there as"}, {"end": "00:41:39", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "well and I I know him from my own parent"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:36", "text": "office. Um, he was there and I don't"}, {"end": "00:41:43", "start": "00:41:39", "text": "know I didn't recognize anyone else. Um,"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "but"}, {"end": "00:41:48", "start": "00:41:43", "text": "uh I can use his full name, John"}, {"end": "00:41:51", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "Phillips. He's he's out in public as a"}, {"end": "00:41:52", "start": "00:41:48", "text": "former uh chief of the office of chief"}, {"end": "00:41:55", "start": "00:41:51", "text": "scientists. In fact, he was the very"}, {"end": "00:41:58", "start": "00:41:52", "text": "first office of the chief scientist"}, {"end": "00:42:00", "start": "00:41:55", "text": "head. Wow. uh before that office was"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:58", "text": "named something else and he was present"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:42:00", "text": "as well. He was present and he"}, {"end": "00:42:05", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "introduced"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "another gentleman that I knew uh Gerald"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:05", "text": "K. Haynes."}, {"end": "00:42:12", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "Now Gerald Haynes is C was CIA's"}, {"end": "00:42:14", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "historian. He was also in a row"}, {"end": "00:42:17", "start": "00:42:12", "text": "historian. He was the run that wrote uh"}, {"end": "00:42:21", "start": "00:42:14", "text": "the paper about CIA UFO interest from"}, {"end": "00:42:24", "start": "00:42:17", "text": "1947 to 1990. Wow. It's out there now. I"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:21", "text": "there's two versions of that. One is a"}, {"end": "00:42:28", "start": "00:42:24", "text": "public version, one is a classified"}, {"end": "00:42:31", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "version. I got the classified version"}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:28", "text": "and um so he was there and he was the"}, {"end": "00:42:36", "start": "00:42:31", "text": "one presenting. So he's the one that"}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "presented on what CIA did with UFOs"}, {"end": "00:42:42", "start": "00:42:36", "text": "going back to 1947. But this is an"}, {"end": "00:42:45", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "unclassified setting. Mhm."}, {"end": "00:42:47", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "at at what point did you think that the"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:45", "text": "information that was being"}, {"end": "00:42:53", "start": "00:42:47", "text": "um talked about"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "should be classified or unclassified?"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:53", "text": "Because I'm I'm I'm going to let you"}, {"end": "00:42:59", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "continue the story because this gets"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "really really bizarre and it gets quite"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:42:59", "text": "um disturbing a little bit even of I'm"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "just really surprised to hear the amount"}, {"end": "00:43:08", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "of people that are there that had"}, {"end": "00:43:12", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "credentials like this was it feels like"}, {"end": "00:43:15", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "this was of some importance at least to"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:12", "text": "people in positions of, you know, uh,"}, {"end": "00:43:18", "start": "00:43:15", "text": "seemingly importance. You would think"}, {"end": "00:43:20", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "so. Yes. And I don't know why I was"}, {"end": "00:43:22", "start": "00:43:18", "text": "there because compared to these other"}, {"end": "00:43:25", "start": "00:43:20", "text": "gentlemen, I was not that important."}, {"end": "00:43:30", "start": "00:43:22", "text": "Mhm. Um, but I was invited and I"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:25", "text": "attended and so um, the paper that uh,"}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:30", "text": "General Haynes wrote was approved by CIA"}, {"end": "00:43:38", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "because it was released and that's why"}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "you have it now. You can search for it."}, {"end": "00:43:41", "start": "00:43:38", "text": "Do a Google search for it and you you'll"}, {"end": "00:43:43", "start": "00:43:39", "text": "find it. So that that uncclassified"}, {"end": "00:43:45", "start": "00:43:41", "text": "version is released. So he was talking"}, {"end": "00:43:48", "start": "00:43:43", "text": "about that and he said something very"}, {"end": "00:43:52", "start": "00:43:45", "text": "interesting. He said a lot he said that"}, {"end": "00:43:54", "start": "00:43:48", "text": "when we were testing the U2 and A12 they"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:52", "text": "were silver"}, {"end": "00:43:59", "start": "00:43:54", "text": "and they only operated in broad"}, {"end": "00:44:02", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "daylight. Why was not were they painted"}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:43:59", "text": "black and why not at night to hide them?"}, {"end": "00:44:07", "start": "00:44:02", "text": "Simple explanation. The cameras back in"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "those days didn't have night vision."}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:07", "text": "Mhm. So, you know, they needed daylight"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "to photograph anything on the ground."}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "And that's how they tested the cameras"}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:13", "text": "and the systems um in broad daylight."}, {"end": "00:44:20", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "And they're silver. You can see them."}, {"end": "00:44:22", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "You can track them. Easier to track. But"}, {"end": "00:44:27", "start": "00:44:20", "text": "these are airplanes. These are Yeah."}, {"end": "00:44:30", "start": "00:44:22", "text": "advanced airplanes. U2 for 1955. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:44:33", "start": "00:44:27", "text": "U2 was very advanced. A12 definitely"}, {"end": "00:44:38", "start": "00:44:30", "text": "looks very advanced. And that first A12"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "um came on boarded uh 1962."}, {"end": "00:44:43", "start": "00:44:38", "text": "And so broad daylight and people would"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:40", "text": "see these objects up in the sky. They"}, {"end": "00:44:49", "start": "00:44:43", "text": "were flying at 70,000 for the U2 and"}, {"end": "00:44:51", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "like over around about 85,000 for the"}, {"end": "00:44:53", "start": "00:44:49", "text": "A12."}, {"end": "00:44:57", "start": "00:44:51", "text": "And there was these silver streaks up in"}, {"end": "00:45:00", "start": "00:44:53", "text": "the sky. Um, people were reporting UFOs"}, {"end": "00:45:02", "start": "00:44:57", "text": "and when people reported UFOs to the"}, {"end": "00:45:04", "start": "00:45:00", "text": "local authorities or to a radio station"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:45:02", "text": "or TV station or whatever you what have"}, {"end": "00:45:08", "start": "00:45:04", "text": "you, newspapers, uh, that piqued our"}, {"end": "00:45:12", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "interest. We wanted to know what they"}, {"end": "00:45:15", "start": "00:45:08", "text": "were seeing. Mhm. What did you see?"}, {"end": "00:45:17", "start": "00:45:12", "text": "Describe what you see. Um because we"}, {"end": "00:45:20", "start": "00:45:15", "text": "don't know we wanted to know what these"}, {"end": "00:45:22", "start": "00:45:17", "text": "craft would look like to an observer"}, {"end": "00:45:25", "start": "00:45:20", "text": "knowing nothing about the program to"}, {"end": "00:45:27", "start": "00:45:22", "text": "develop these aircraft. What are they"}, {"end": "00:45:29", "start": "00:45:25", "text": "perceiving from the ground looking up?"}, {"end": "00:45:32", "start": "00:45:27", "text": "Sure. And so we got those reports. Now"}, {"end": "00:45:35", "start": "00:45:29", "text": "that started the men in black legend"}, {"end": "00:45:38", "start": "00:45:32", "text": "when we were visiting the CIA officers"}, {"end": "00:45:40", "start": "00:45:35", "text": "uh some of them uh showed had air force"}, {"end": "00:45:42", "start": "00:45:38", "text": "credentials."}, {"end": "00:45:44", "start": "00:45:40", "text": "Mhm. And they were presenting themselves"}, {"end": "00:45:46", "start": "00:45:42", "text": "as air force even though they were CIA."}, {"end": "00:45:49", "start": "00:45:44", "text": "This was what years? This was the ' 60s."}, {"end": "00:45:51", "start": "00:45:46", "text": "Yeah. This is like um starting from the"}, {"end": "00:45:53", "start": "00:45:49", "text": "very first uh in in the 50s late 50s."}, {"end": "00:45:57", "start": "00:45:51", "text": "Yeah. Because Rex Chaplan as well is was"}, {"end": "00:45:59", "start": "00:45:53", "text": "you know visited um by gentlemen as"}, {"end": "00:46:01", "start": "00:45:57", "text": "well. So like I mean you you would"}, {"end": "00:46:05", "start": "00:45:59", "text": "assume the same department that visited"}, {"end": "00:46:09", "start": "00:46:01", "text": "people for explainable aerial phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:46:11", "start": "00:46:05", "text": "would also be sent out when"}, {"end": "00:46:12", "start": "00:46:09", "text": "UFOs were spotted. It would be the same"}, {"end": "00:46:15", "start": "00:46:11", "text": "people. I would I would imagine so I"}, {"end": "00:46:17", "start": "00:46:12", "text": "would imagine they would have a um"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:15", "text": "professional background"}, {"end": "00:46:23", "start": "00:46:17", "text": "um in the entire topic because they were"}, {"end": "00:46:25", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "reporting UFOs. So obviously people who"}, {"end": "00:46:28", "start": "00:46:23", "text": "actually know about UFOs would find out"}, {"end": "00:46:31", "start": "00:46:25", "text": "you know what did you see? Mhm. Um so"}, {"end": "00:46:34", "start": "00:46:28", "text": "they were reporting these um aircraft as"}, {"end": "00:46:36", "start": "00:46:31", "text": "UFOs. Now unlike the Air Force which"}, {"end": "00:46:40", "start": "00:46:34", "text": "encourages you to believe they're UFOs,"}, {"end": "00:46:42", "start": "00:46:36", "text": "CIA did not they did not dissuade their"}, {"end": "00:46:44", "start": "00:46:40", "text": "belief that they were UFOs"}, {"end": "00:46:47", "start": "00:46:42", "text": "and they would"}, {"end": "00:46:49", "start": "00:46:44", "text": "act like muon investigators in the sense"}, {"end": "00:46:51", "start": "00:46:47", "text": "that they would take in the data, right?"}, {"end": "00:46:52", "start": "00:46:49", "text": "We just want to know what you saw. We're"}, {"end": "00:46:54", "start": "00:46:51", "text": "going to take in the data. Thank you"}, {"end": "00:46:56", "start": "00:46:52", "text": "very much. Yeah. Thank you for your"}, {"end": "00:46:57", "start": "00:46:54", "text": "patriotism and reporting this to the"}, {"end": "00:47:00", "start": "00:46:56", "text": "government so forth and so on, right?"}, {"end": "00:47:02", "start": "00:46:57", "text": "Yeah. But we didn't you didn't give them"}, {"end": "00:47:03", "start": "00:47:00", "text": "a cover story. Did not give them a cover"}, {"end": "00:47:07", "start": "00:47:02", "text": "story. We just wanted to know what you"}, {"end": "00:47:10", "start": "00:47:03", "text": "saw. If they saw a UFO, fine. Yep. But"}, {"end": "00:47:12", "start": "00:47:07", "text": "they did. The CIA did not deliberately"}, {"end": "00:47:14", "start": "00:47:10", "text": "tell people you saw a UFO, right? Or"}, {"end": "00:47:17", "start": "00:47:12", "text": "don't say anything. Don't say no. Okay."}, {"end": "00:47:20", "start": "00:47:14", "text": "We just want the information. Um, so"}, {"end": "00:47:22", "start": "00:47:17", "text": "that occurred uh throughout the 50s uh"}, {"end": "00:47:24", "start": "00:47:20", "text": "during the YouTube program and through"}, {"end": "00:47:28", "start": "00:47:22", "text": "the 60s up to 64 when we actually"}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:24", "text": "deployed the A12 operationally, mid60s I"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:28", "text": "would say. Um, so that and that's what"}, {"end": "00:47:36", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "the seminar was about up until then. Up"}, {"end": "00:47:38", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "until then. Yeah. And so yeah, he said"}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:36", "text": "but one in 10"}, {"end": "00:47:43", "start": "00:47:38", "text": "Gerald K. Hayne said one in 10 were"}, {"end": "00:47:46", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "UFOs."}, {"end": "00:47:50", "start": "00:47:43", "text": "We have case files of real UFOs that one"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:46", "text": "in 10 sightings Mhm. were actual UFOs."}, {"end": "00:47:57", "start": "00:47:50", "text": "That's a high number. That's 10%. Yeah."}, {"end": "00:48:00", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "Yeah. Um and so"}, {"end": "00:48:02", "start": "00:47:57", "text": "going back and thinking about wow, you"}, {"end": "00:48:05", "start": "00:48:00", "text": "know, the CIA knew that there was"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:02", "text": "something up there that were real UFOs."}, {"end": "00:48:10", "start": "00:48:05", "text": "And this is like more of the public side"}, {"end": "00:48:12", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "of CIA that that it's still classified"}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:10", "text": "side of CIA but not the program side."}, {"end": "00:48:17", "start": "00:48:12", "text": "Sure. Of CIA, right? Yeah. It's not"}, {"end": "00:48:20", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "deep. It's not deep. It's just"}, {"end": "00:48:22", "start": "00:48:17", "text": "interesting information that you you saw"}, {"end": "00:48:27", "start": "00:48:20", "text": "a UFO and that 10% of them couldn't be"}, {"end": "00:48:30", "start": "00:48:22", "text": "explained. Yeah. Um so the second part"}, {"end": "00:48:32", "start": "00:48:27", "text": "of that discussion was about"}, {"end": "00:48:34", "start": "00:48:30", "text": "beings"}, {"end": "00:48:38", "start": "00:48:32", "text": "that there were aliens. there were"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:34", "text": "actual aliens and that"}, {"end": "00:48:45", "start": "00:48:38", "text": "um they were able to collect DNA from"}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "aliens and that's when they discovered"}, {"end": "00:48:51", "start": "00:48:45", "text": "and this didn't happen in 47 happened"}, {"end": "00:48:54", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "later probably they had tissue samples"}, {"end": "00:48:57", "start": "00:48:51", "text": "or whatever that they've stored and they"}, {"end": "00:48:59", "start": "00:48:54", "text": "were able to recover DNA and when we"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:57", "text": "discovered how to sequence the human"}, {"end": "00:49:04", "start": "00:48:59", "text": "genome"}, {"end": "00:49:05", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "and we sequenced the alien DNA and And"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:04", "text": "we discovered that, oh, there are"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:05", "text": "markers in there that look very human,"}, {"end": "00:49:16", "start": "00:49:09", "text": "human hybrids. H um that what looks like"}, {"end": "00:49:20", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "an alien"}, {"end": "00:49:24", "start": "00:49:16", "text": "has for some reason has um human genetic"}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "markers in their DNA in the genome. And"}, {"end": "00:49:27", "start": "00:49:24", "text": "so I found that to be interesting. And"}, {"end": "00:49:30", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "to answer your question, that's when I"}, {"end": "00:49:33", "start": "00:49:27", "text": "thought this sounds pretty classified to"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:30", "text": "me. This is coming from a CIA historian."}, {"end": "00:49:38", "start": "00:49:33", "text": "A CIA historian. Yes."}, {"end": "00:49:41", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "Like that comes with some weight behind"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:38", "text": "it. This isn't going to a UFO conference"}, {"end": "00:49:45", "start": "00:49:41", "text": "and and you know somebody like me going"}, {"end": "00:49:49", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "up there and talking about hybrids. This"}, {"end": "00:49:51", "start": "00:49:45", "text": "is an official CIA historian with"}, {"end": "00:49:53", "start": "00:49:49", "text": "background, with checked credentials,"}, {"end": "00:49:55", "start": "00:49:51", "text": "with clearances,"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:53", "text": "telling a group of other individuals"}, {"end": "00:49:59", "start": "00:49:55", "text": "from universities, from different"}, {"end": "00:50:02", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "departments in the in the defense uh"}, {"end": "00:50:05", "start": "00:49:59", "text": "intelligence agencies about"}, {"end": "00:50:07", "start": "00:50:02", "text": "hybridization programs, right? And I I"}, {"end": "00:50:10", "start": "00:50:05", "text": "would say this uh I would preface that"}, {"end": "00:50:11", "start": "00:50:07", "text": "with like I don't think there were other"}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:10", "text": "members of the intelligence community"}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:11", "text": "there. I think there were only CIA"}, {"end": "00:50:20", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "officers and these postoc gotcha folks"}, {"end": "00:50:22", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "uh that we sponsored. Do you do you"}, {"end": "00:50:24", "start": "00:50:20", "text": "think now we're going to go more into"}, {"end": "00:50:26", "start": "00:50:22", "text": "this uh hybrid thing because I want to"}, {"end": "00:50:28", "start": "00:50:24", "text": "hear what they had to say about that? I"}, {"end": "00:50:30", "start": "00:50:26", "text": "think it's very fascinating, but do you"}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:28", "text": "think at any point before we get into"}, {"end": "00:50:36", "start": "00:50:30", "text": "this that you might have been led into"}, {"end": "00:50:38", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "some weird honey trap situation where"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:36", "text": "they give you passage material? Do you"}, {"end": "00:50:41", "start": "00:50:38", "text": "think that that because I know a lot of"}, {"end": "00:50:43", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "the audience is going to be like, \"Oh,"}, {"end": "00:50:44", "start": "00:50:41", "text": "maybe this is a whole setup or"}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:43", "text": "something.\" Did that ever cross your"}, {"end": "00:50:47", "start": "00:50:44", "text": "mind. Did that ever feel never crossed"}, {"end": "00:50:49", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "my mind? Never crossed my mind. No."}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:47", "text": "Yeah. It didn't feel like that at all."}, {"end": "00:50:55", "start": "00:50:49", "text": "Mm- Okay. Not at all. Um because when"}, {"end": "00:50:58", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "there's passage material, we actually"}, {"end": "00:51:00", "start": "00:50:55", "text": "read into the passage material. And my"}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:50:58", "text": "explanation for that is this that I was"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:51:00", "text": "involved in uh some covert programs"}, {"end": "00:51:09", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "and it required me to be overseas uh"}, {"end": "00:51:11", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "undercover with a different name,"}, {"end": "00:51:13", "start": "00:51:09", "text": "different complete different biography,"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:11", "text": "complete different history. I was sent"}, {"end": "00:51:18", "start": "00:51:13", "text": "overseas with actual documents"}, {"end": "00:51:21", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "and I was told that if you're stopped"}, {"end": "00:51:23", "start": "00:51:18", "text": "even by um you know customs when you're"}, {"end": "00:51:25", "start": "00:51:21", "text": "coming back to the United States or the"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:23", "text": "other customs of the foreign country"}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:25", "text": "you're going to that we want you to have"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "a cover story. You have to have a cover"}, {"end": "00:51:34", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "legend and you can use these cover"}, {"end": "00:51:36", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "legends depending on the circumstance."}, {"end": "00:51:40", "start": "00:51:34", "text": "So I was given the passage material to"}, {"end": "00:51:42", "start": "00:51:36", "text": "pass on and also um"}, {"end": "00:51:46", "start": "00:51:40", "text": "I would say that because of the nature"}, {"end": "00:51:48", "start": "00:51:42", "text": "of that symposium uh I discounted that"}, {"end": "00:51:51", "start": "00:51:46", "text": "completely because of who was there."}, {"end": "00:51:55", "start": "00:51:48", "text": "Understood. And and and what was"}, {"end": "00:51:57", "start": "00:51:51", "text": "everyone else's reaction to this news?"}, {"end": "00:51:59", "start": "00:51:55", "text": "I was surprised that there was no"}, {"end": "00:52:01", "start": "00:51:57", "text": "reaction. Huh. And I didn't even have a"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:59", "text": "reaction. I just took it all in. I"}, {"end": "00:52:05", "start": "00:52:01", "text": "thought to myself, hm, sounds a little"}, {"end": "00:52:08", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "classified to me, but I was interested"}, {"end": "00:52:11", "start": "00:52:05", "text": "in what General Haynes has to say about"}, {"end": "00:52:15", "start": "00:52:08", "text": "the hybridization, alien DNA, CIA's"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:11", "text": "interest in aliens. Okay, let's get into"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:15", "text": "this a little bit more because now now"}, {"end": "00:52:23", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "this is becoming very very um very"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "interesting because this this connects"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:23", "text": "with so many other stories of you know,"}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "experiencers and everything else. So the"}, {"end": "00:52:33", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "CIA is basically"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "giving this presentation in an"}, {"end": "00:52:40", "start": "00:52:33", "text": "unofficial UNC sorry in in an"}, {"end": "00:52:42", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "unclassified capacity about"}, {"end": "00:52:47", "start": "00:52:40", "text": "sequences in the DNA of the Roswell"}, {"end": "00:52:49", "start": "00:52:42", "text": "aliens that are connecting human DNA. I"}, {"end": "00:52:52", "start": "00:52:47", "text": "assume they were Roswell aliens. I would"}, {"end": "00:52:53", "start": "00:52:49", "text": "say they were they were nonhumans. They"}, {"end": "00:52:57", "start": "00:52:52", "text": "were nonhumans. Non-humans. Whether they"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:53", "text": "were collected from um the Roswell crash"}, {"end": "00:53:02", "start": "00:52:57", "text": "or other retrievals,"}, {"end": "00:53:05", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "I don't know. Okay. But the interest,"}, {"end": "00:53:07", "start": "00:53:02", "text": "the key phrase that Gerald Haynes used"}, {"end": "00:53:12", "start": "00:53:05", "text": "was"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:07", "text": "since World War II, after World War II,"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:12", "text": "we were interested"}, {"end": "00:53:19", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "in alien DNA, particularly found in"}, {"end": "00:53:21", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "humans."}, {"end": "00:53:23", "start": "00:53:19", "text": "At that time, I didn't know anything"}, {"end": "00:53:27", "start": "00:53:21", "text": "about magenta. had no knowledge of"}, {"end": "00:53:29", "start": "00:53:23", "text": "magenta of that craft and that retrieval"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:27", "text": "had no knowledge that we may have had"}, {"end": "00:53:33", "start": "00:53:29", "text": "the"}, {"end": "00:53:36", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "craft itself with as David Gush would"}, {"end": "00:53:39", "start": "00:53:33", "text": "call biologics on board. But he said"}, {"end": "00:53:42", "start": "00:53:36", "text": "after World War II so that in hindsight"}, {"end": "00:53:43", "start": "00:53:39", "text": "makes sense that okay maybe you know"}, {"end": "00:53:46", "start": "00:53:42", "text": "that's where it came from or other"}, {"end": "00:53:48", "start": "00:53:43", "text": "retrievalss where there were um beings"}, {"end": "00:53:51", "start": "00:53:46", "text": "on board. Yeah, because allegedly the"}, {"end": "00:53:54", "start": "00:53:48", "text": "crash in Italy in Magento, which"}, {"end": "00:53:56", "start": "00:53:51", "text": "happened in 33, wasn't sent to the"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:54", "text": "United States until Pope Pas agreed to"}, {"end": "00:54:02", "start": "00:53:56", "text": "send it in 45. Yeah. 44 4545. 44 45. So"}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "that would have been what he was talking"}, {"end": "00:54:07", "start": "00:54:02", "text": "about. But didn't and and maybe I'm"}, {"end": "00:54:10", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "mistaken here, but I heard and this is"}, {"end": "00:54:12", "start": "00:54:07", "text": "uncorroborated evidence or speculative"}, {"end": "00:54:16", "start": "00:54:10", "text": "at best, but that the beings on board of"}, {"end": "00:54:19", "start": "00:54:12", "text": "the Magenta craft were humanoid looking."}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:16", "text": "They were like tall blondes. Mhm. Uh so"}, {"end": "00:54:25", "start": "00:54:19", "text": "I hear was that at all mentioned during"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "the symposium? No. No. Was was the type"}, {"end": "00:54:29", "start": "00:54:25", "text": "of alien mentioned? No. Okay. And in my"}, {"end": "00:54:32", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "mind I was thinking of the traditional"}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:29", "text": "what I'll call traditional gray being."}, {"end": "00:54:37", "start": "00:54:32", "text": "That's what I had in my mind."}, {"end": "00:54:40", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "But um no, he didn't mention exactly"}, {"end": "00:54:43", "start": "00:54:37", "text": "what kind of being. But what he said"}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:40", "text": "about their interest, CIA's interest in"}, {"end": "00:54:48", "start": "00:54:43", "text": "these"}, {"end": "00:54:52", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "uh in these beings and uh human DNA,"}, {"end": "00:54:54", "start": "00:54:48", "text": "yeah, in their genome was what I caught"}, {"end": "00:54:56", "start": "00:54:52", "text": "because what he said afterwards rang all"}, {"end": "00:54:58", "start": "00:54:54", "text": "kinds of like, oh, this sounds really"}, {"end": "00:55:02", "start": "00:54:56", "text": "classified."}, {"end": "00:55:07", "start": "00:54:58", "text": "And that was the CIA had a program"}, {"end": "00:55:09", "start": "00:55:02", "text": "to trace this alien DNA in certain"}, {"end": "00:55:13", "start": "00:55:07", "text": "families"}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:09", "text": "in the United States. And he mentioned a"}, {"end": "00:55:18", "start": "00:55:13", "text": "particular region that this research"}, {"end": "00:55:20", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "occurred in the northeast"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:18", "text": "United States. He won't go any further"}, {"end": "00:55:27", "start": "00:55:20", "text": "than that. that certain families and"}, {"end": "00:55:31", "start": "00:55:24", "text": "particularly their children were of"}, {"end": "00:55:31", "start": "00:55:27", "text": "interest to CIA."}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:31", "text": "I don't know, I didn't know what to make"}, {"end": "00:55:40", "start": "00:55:33", "text": "of it back then, but you start talk"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "talking about the gate program and um"}, {"end": "00:55:45", "start": "00:55:40", "text": "subsequent uh studies of children and"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "their capabilities and their abilities"}, {"end": "00:55:53", "start": "00:55:45", "text": "to do certain psionic things um that now"}, {"end": "00:55:55", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "comes to my mind. since um since that"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:53", "text": "was brought out more recently."}, {"end": "00:56:05", "start": "00:55:55", "text": "So the CIA was interested in potentially"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "tracking the activity of hybrids, human"}, {"end": "00:56:10", "start": "00:56:05", "text": "alien hybrids in the United States that"}, {"end": "00:56:12", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "and going back in in their lineage as"}, {"end": "00:56:15", "start": "00:56:10", "text": "well. In their lineage, right? And going"}, {"end": "00:56:19", "start": "00:56:12", "text": "back in their ancestry as well. I don't"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:15", "text": "know how they collected this DNA. Um,"}, {"end": "00:56:23", "start": "00:56:19", "text": "you know, we have oversight now, and"}, {"end": "00:56:25", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "that oversight started in the mid70s."}, {"end": "00:56:26", "start": "00:56:23", "text": "Congressional oversight."}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:25", "text": "This sounded like it occurred before"}, {"end": "00:56:29", "start": "00:56:26", "text": "there was congressional oversight"}, {"end": "00:56:31", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "because you couldn't do that today."}, {"end": "00:56:35", "start": "00:56:29", "text": "Yeah. No, it would be illegal. Yes."}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:31", "text": "Completely. Um, so this may have"}, {"end": "00:56:40", "start": "00:56:35", "text": "occurred earlier, right? That they were"}, {"end": "00:56:42", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "interested and then um when we developed"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:40", "text": "in the '9s, we developed uh the ability"}, {"end": "00:56:48", "start": "00:56:42", "text": "to sequence the human genome completely."}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "uh that may have furthered uh the uh"}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:48", "text": "investigation into the alien DNA. Um"}, {"end": "00:57:01", "start": "00:56:55", "text": "is has there ever been and feel free to"}, {"end": "00:57:03", "start": "00:56:59", "text": "answer this with a one-word answer. Has"}, {"end": "00:57:07", "start": "00:57:01", "text": "there ever been a situation that you"}, {"end": "00:57:09", "start": "00:57:03", "text": "were in where you've gotten confirmation"}, {"end": "00:57:11", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "of"}, {"end": "00:57:13", "start": "00:57:09", "text": "the"}, {"end": "00:57:16", "start": "00:57:11", "text": "government's involvement with human"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:13", "text": "alien hybrids?"}, {"end": "00:57:21", "start": "00:57:16", "text": "Yes. Okay."}, {"end": "00:57:24", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "In an in and from a credible source, you"}, {"end": "00:57:27", "start": "00:57:21", "text": "can say yes. Okay."}, {"end": "00:57:30", "start": "00:57:24", "text": "So, they know about the hybrids. Yes."}, {"end": "00:57:31", "start": "00:57:27", "text": "Okay. And you and you would I mean gun"}, {"end": "00:57:33", "start": "00:57:30", "text": "to your head right now, you would you"}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:31", "text": "would say absolutely. Absolutely. Yes."}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:33", "text": "Wow."}, {"end": "00:57:44", "start": "00:57:36", "text": "That's I mean that's something that's uh"}, {"end": "00:57:47", "start": "00:57:42", "text": "you know my my mind races to all the"}, {"end": "00:57:50", "start": "00:57:44", "text": "different cases that I hear right we"}, {"end": "00:57:51", "start": "00:57:47", "text": "hear about so many so many so many"}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:50", "text": "people talk about this and so many"}, {"end": "00:57:55", "start": "00:57:51", "text": "researchers look into this from Bud"}, {"end": "00:57:58", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "Hopkins to David Jacobs to you know John"}, {"end": "00:58:01", "start": "00:57:55", "text": "Mack and John Carpenter all these"}, {"end": "00:58:04", "start": "00:57:58", "text": "researchers who've looked into"}, {"end": "00:58:06", "start": "00:58:01", "text": "um abduction phenomena experiencers and"}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:04", "text": "the one thing that a lot of people I"}, {"end": "00:58:11", "start": "00:58:06", "text": "think find interesting is the"}, {"end": "00:58:15", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "interaction with these humanlike Mhm."}, {"end": "00:58:17", "start": "00:58:11", "text": "aliens. Yes. For lack of a better term."}, {"end": "00:58:18", "start": "00:58:15", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "00:58:20", "start": "00:58:17", "text": "now"}, {"end": "00:58:23", "start": "00:58:18", "text": "is there anything else during that"}, {"end": "00:58:25", "start": "00:58:20", "text": "symposium that might have, you know,"}, {"end": "00:58:27", "start": "00:58:23", "text": "caught your attention about the human"}, {"end": "00:58:30", "start": "00:58:25", "text": "hybrid program?"}, {"end": "00:58:32", "start": "00:58:27", "text": "None about that program itself. uh other"}, {"end": "00:58:34", "start": "00:58:30", "text": "than the fact of the interest and the"}, {"end": "00:58:37", "start": "00:58:32", "text": "further investigation into family"}, {"end": "00:58:40", "start": "00:58:34", "text": "lineages that certain families tend to"}, {"end": "00:58:43", "start": "00:58:37", "text": "have a propensity for um this"}, {"end": "00:58:47", "start": "00:58:40", "text": "hybridization to have occurred"}, {"end": "00:58:49", "start": "00:58:43", "text": "um on behalf of the NHI. Let's let's be"}, {"end": "00:58:51", "start": "00:58:47", "text": "clear here like this hybridization that"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:49", "text": "we're talking about isn't humans taking"}, {"end": "00:58:57", "start": "00:58:51", "text": "No. No. It's it's like"}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "maybe in their family's history they"}, {"end": "00:59:06", "start": "00:58:57", "text": "were taken, right? And then their DNA"}, {"end": "00:59:08", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "DNA may have been somehow enhanced. I"}, {"end": "00:59:11", "start": "00:59:06", "text": "don't know what word to use. Altered."}, {"end": "00:59:12", "start": "00:59:08", "text": "Altered. Um I'm speculating here. I I"}, {"end": "00:59:17", "start": "00:59:11", "text": "admit this is speculation. I don't know"}, {"end": "00:59:19", "start": "00:59:12", "text": "how they do it. I'm not um versed in"}, {"end": "00:59:21", "start": "00:59:17", "text": "anything to do with genetics. I'm not a"}, {"end": "00:59:27", "start": "00:59:19", "text": "scientist about genetics. I don't know."}, {"end": "00:59:31", "start": "00:59:21", "text": "Um, but it seems to have been um a"}, {"end": "00:59:36", "start": "00:59:27", "text": "a history of certain families having"}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:31", "text": "certain DNA of interest now to CIA"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:36", "text": "because of the alien connection to that"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "DNA."}, {"end": "00:59:46", "start": "00:59:42", "text": "Do"}, {"end": "00:59:50", "start": "00:59:44", "text": "are some of these families aware, do you"}, {"end": "00:59:50", "start": "00:59:46", "text": "think? I don't know."}, {"end": "00:59:53", "start": "00:59:50", "text": "Okay."}, {"end": "00:59:57", "start": "00:59:51", "text": "Wow."}, {"end": "01:00:00", "start": "00:59:53", "text": "Now, on a perhaps related note, and"}, {"end": "01:00:01", "start": "00:59:57", "text": "again, let me know how comfortable you"}, {"end": "01:00:04", "start": "01:00:00", "text": "feel about talking about this, but"}, {"end": "01:00:08", "start": "01:00:01", "text": "you've had experiences. Yes. Yeah. From"}, {"end": "01:00:09", "start": "01:00:04", "text": "a young age. Yes. Um,"}, {"end": "01:00:11", "start": "01:00:08", "text": "if you're willing, would you be willing"}, {"end": "01:00:13", "start": "01:00:09", "text": "to open up a little bit about what those"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:11", "text": "experience were like and what the what"}, {"end": "01:00:18", "start": "01:00:13", "text": "the interactions were like? Sure. Okay."}, {"end": "01:00:21", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "01:00:23", "start": "01:00:18", "text": "my first I won't say it's an experience"}, {"end": "01:00:27", "start": "01:00:21", "text": "in a traditional sense of experiencers"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:23", "text": "with with non-humans, but my first"}, {"end": "01:00:32", "start": "01:00:27", "text": "inclination occurred when I was four"}, {"end": "01:00:34", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "years old. Um, I saw through a telescope"}, {"end": "01:00:37", "start": "01:00:32", "text": "for the first time in my young life and"}, {"end": "01:00:40", "start": "01:00:34", "text": "I was fascinated by what I saw, stars,"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:37", "text": "planets, um, the moon. Um, and I felt"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:40", "text": "like I belonged out there, not here. I"}, {"end": "01:00:48", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "had this feeling of longing to go out"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "there because that's that's my home. I"}, {"end": "01:00:54", "start": "01:00:48", "text": "don't know why I'm here at a young age."}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "And then um"}, {"end": "01:01:01", "start": "01:00:54", "text": "I recalled being taken somewhere and it"}, {"end": "01:01:05", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "seemed like I I don't know if it was a"}, {"end": "01:01:07", "start": "01:01:01", "text": "dream or it actually occurred but I was"}, {"end": "01:01:12", "start": "01:01:05", "text": "taken repeatedly at least three times"}, {"end": "01:01:15", "start": "01:01:07", "text": "that I know of uh to a home"}, {"end": "01:01:17", "start": "01:01:12", "text": "and this home was like set in a"}, {"end": "01:01:19", "start": "01:01:15", "text": "Victorian kind of setting you know it's"}, {"end": "01:01:21", "start": "01:01:17", "text": "not like a modern home in I would say"}, {"end": "01:01:23", "start": "01:01:19", "text": "the late 50s early60s"}, {"end": "01:01:26", "start": "01:01:21", "text": "It wasn't the late 50s, early 60s"}, {"end": "01:01:28", "start": "01:01:23", "text": "rancher that everyone seemed to have"}, {"end": "01:01:30", "start": "01:01:26", "text": "lived in back in that time, but this was"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:28", "text": "a Victorian home in the sense that, you"}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:30", "text": "know, it had the turret on one side and"}, {"end": "01:01:38", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "wraparound porch. It looked like"}, {"end": "01:01:41", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "something from the 1890s, early 1900s,"}, {"end": "01:01:46", "start": "01:01:38", "text": "and I was led by a woman, not my mother,"}, {"end": "01:01:48", "start": "01:01:41", "text": "um going through the through the gate."}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:46", "text": "It was fenced through the gate to the"}, {"end": "01:01:55", "start": "01:01:48", "text": "house uh on the porch and then she led"}, {"end": "01:01:57", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "me to a room on the leftand side and"}, {"end": "01:01:59", "start": "01:01:55", "text": "there was a doctor's office and so I"}, {"end": "01:02:03", "start": "01:01:57", "text": "remember being examined undressed"}, {"end": "01:02:05", "start": "01:01:59", "text": "examined by a doctor accompanied by a"}, {"end": "01:02:07", "start": "01:02:03", "text": "nurse not the woman who took me but"}, {"end": "01:02:11", "start": "01:02:05", "text": "another nurse and everything around"}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:02:07", "text": "there looked very old like something"}, {"end": "01:02:16", "start": "01:02:11", "text": "from vintage let's say like maybe from"}, {"end": "01:02:19", "start": "01:02:14", "text": "the Victorian era."}, {"end": "01:02:22", "start": "01:02:16", "text": "Um, and I remember"}, {"end": "01:02:25", "start": "01:02:19", "text": "vaguely of being injected by something"}, {"end": "01:02:27", "start": "01:02:22", "text": "that there was a hypodermic needle"}, {"end": "01:02:30", "start": "01:02:25", "text": "involved in a syringe"}, {"end": "01:02:32", "start": "01:02:27", "text": "and then being dressed again and being"}, {"end": "01:02:34", "start": "01:02:30", "text": "led out of the house again by the same"}, {"end": "01:02:37", "start": "01:02:32", "text": "woman who took me and then that memory"}, {"end": "01:02:38", "start": "01:02:34", "text": "would like fade. And this memory"}, {"end": "01:02:40", "start": "01:02:37", "text": "happened twice"}, {"end": "01:02:43", "start": "01:02:38", "text": "on the first floor and once on the"}, {"end": "01:02:46", "start": "01:02:40", "text": "second floor. similar situation. I asked"}, {"end": "01:02:47", "start": "01:02:43", "text": "my mother about, you know, did she take"}, {"end": "01:02:50", "start": "01:02:46", "text": "me to the doctor and she said, \"No, I"}, {"end": "01:02:53", "start": "01:02:47", "text": "never took you to anything like that.\""}, {"end": "01:02:56", "start": "01:02:50", "text": "Um, that was my very first memory. And"}, {"end": "01:03:00", "start": "01:02:53", "text": "then other memories I had was being in a"}, {"end": "01:03:03", "start": "01:02:56", "text": "um early 1960s department store. They"}, {"end": "01:03:06", "start": "01:03:00", "text": "were called Five and Dimes back then."}, {"end": "01:03:09", "start": "01:03:03", "text": "And it was a a bin of books. And I love"}, {"end": "01:03:11", "start": "01:03:06", "text": "books. So my parents um they wouldn't"}, {"end": "01:03:14", "start": "01:03:09", "text": "buy me toys but if I wanted a book I can"}, {"end": "01:03:16", "start": "01:03:11", "text": "get a book anytime I want it. So I was"}, {"end": "01:03:20", "start": "01:03:14", "text": "thumbming through these books and one"}, {"end": "01:03:23", "start": "01:03:16", "text": "book I opened I recall vividly as I open"}, {"end": "01:03:28", "start": "01:03:20", "text": "this book on this page on the lower left"}, {"end": "01:03:32", "start": "01:03:23", "text": "hand side there was a drawing of"}, {"end": "01:03:35", "start": "01:03:28", "text": "a caveman and a cave woman holding a"}, {"end": "01:03:38", "start": "01:03:32", "text": "human baby up. The woman was holding a"}, {"end": "01:03:40", "start": "01:03:35", "text": "human baby up and above that baby was a"}, {"end": "01:03:43", "start": "01:03:38", "text": "flying what we would call a flying"}, {"end": "01:03:46", "start": "01:03:40", "text": "saucer beaming a light on it. And I"}, {"end": "01:03:50", "start": "01:03:43", "text": "received a message saying this is who"}, {"end": "01:03:54", "start": "01:03:46", "text": "you are. This is where you came from."}, {"end": "01:03:56", "start": "01:03:50", "text": "And I said, I want this book. So closed"}, {"end": "01:03:59", "start": "01:03:54", "text": "the book, put it in a place that I could"}, {"end": "01:04:01", "start": "01:03:56", "text": "get it. There's very few people around."}, {"end": "01:04:03", "start": "01:03:59", "text": "And this is just random book there. And"}, {"end": "01:04:07", "start": "01:04:01", "text": "I went to get my mother. I want this"}, {"end": "01:04:10", "start": "01:04:03", "text": "book. And went to the same book bin."}, {"end": "01:04:12", "start": "01:04:07", "text": "Couldn't find a book. Disappeared where"}, {"end": "01:04:14", "start": "01:04:10", "text": "I laid it. There was no one around to"}, {"end": "01:04:16", "start": "01:04:12", "text": "pick that book up and buy it for"}, {"end": "01:04:18", "start": "01:04:14", "text": "themselves. That was another experience"}, {"end": "01:04:21", "start": "01:04:16", "text": "I had of some kind of messaging"}, {"end": "01:04:25", "start": "01:04:18", "text": "occurring. And this wasn't a dream. This"}, {"end": "01:04:27", "start": "01:04:21", "text": "was an actual I remember this happening."}, {"end": "01:04:33", "start": "01:04:25", "text": "Um, and then just feeling like I lived"}, {"end": "01:04:36", "start": "01:04:27", "text": "before. Mhm. I had past lives before."}, {"end": "01:04:39", "start": "01:04:33", "text": "um at a young age at a young age and"}, {"end": "01:04:41", "start": "01:04:36", "text": "then seeing my very first craft and was"}, {"end": "01:04:44", "start": "01:04:39", "text": "uh with my cousins"}, {"end": "01:04:47", "start": "01:04:41", "text": "uh my uncle uh was in the US Army. He's"}, {"end": "01:04:48", "start": "01:04:44", "text": "a Japanese American and he fought in the"}, {"end": "01:04:50", "start": "01:04:47", "text": "442nd"}, {"end": "01:04:52", "start": "01:04:48", "text": "combat regiment team. That was the"}, {"end": "01:04:53", "start": "01:04:50", "text": "Japanese American unit that fought in"}, {"end": "01:04:57", "start": "01:04:52", "text": "Italy."}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:53", "text": "um and he was in the army and we lived"}, {"end": "01:05:02", "start": "01:04:57", "text": "uh my sister and I um lived with them as"}, {"end": "01:05:04", "start": "01:05:01", "text": "we were waiting for our mother to come"}, {"end": "01:05:07", "start": "01:05:02", "text": "from Japan."}, {"end": "01:05:10", "start": "01:05:04", "text": "And this was like 1958"}, {"end": "01:05:14", "start": "01:05:07", "text": "59 playing with uh my two cousins and"}, {"end": "01:05:17", "start": "01:05:10", "text": "our neighbor children there. And I saw"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:14", "text": "off to the right Woods at this Army"}, {"end": "01:05:23", "start": "01:05:17", "text": "base. It's was called Fort Lee at the"}, {"end": "01:05:26", "start": "01:05:20", "text": "time in Petersburg, Virginia. and saw"}, {"end": "01:05:30", "start": "01:05:23", "text": "this silvery craft rise up out of the"}, {"end": "01:05:35", "start": "01:05:26", "text": "out of the trees. Very quiet. I pointed"}, {"end": "01:05:36", "start": "01:05:30", "text": "to it, showed my my cousins and pointed"}, {"end": "01:05:39", "start": "01:05:35", "text": "to the neighbor children, \"Look at"}, {"end": "01:05:41", "start": "01:05:36", "text": "there. Look at there.\" You know, I saw"}, {"end": "01:05:42", "start": "01:05:39", "text": "it playing and they couldn't see a"}, {"end": "01:05:44", "start": "01:05:41", "text": "thing. They couldn't see it. They"}, {"end": "01:05:46", "start": "01:05:42", "text": "couldn't see it. It wasn't a derigible"}, {"end": "01:05:47", "start": "01:05:44", "text": "or anything like that because no"}, {"end": "01:05:50", "start": "01:05:46", "text": "propulsion. There was no gondola"}, {"end": "01:05:53", "start": "01:05:47", "text": "underneath. What was the shape?"}, {"end": "01:05:56", "start": "01:05:50", "text": "Like an oval. Yeah. Like an oval. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:05:59", "start": "01:05:53", "text": "Huh. Yeah. And it was just rising slowly"}, {"end": "01:06:02", "start": "01:05:56", "text": "and just drift off, but they couldn't"}, {"end": "01:06:05", "start": "01:05:59", "text": "see it. And I saw as plain as can be"}, {"end": "01:06:07", "start": "01:06:02", "text": "that it's an actual object. They"}, {"end": "01:06:09", "start": "01:06:05", "text": "couldn't see it. That was my first craft"}, {"end": "01:06:12", "start": "01:06:07", "text": "sighting. The structured craft. How old"}, {"end": "01:06:15", "start": "01:06:09", "text": "were you then? I was five. Five years"}, {"end": "01:06:18", "start": "01:06:12", "text": "old."}, {"end": "01:06:20", "start": "01:06:15", "text": "Wow. And you remember that? Vividly."}, {"end": "01:06:22", "start": "01:06:18", "text": "Vividly. Vividly remember that. Now the"}, {"end": "01:06:25", "start": "01:06:20", "text": "uh"}, {"end": "01:06:27", "start": "01:06:22", "text": "the examination that they described the"}, {"end": "01:06:30", "start": "01:06:25", "text": "medical examination that occurred when I"}, {"end": "01:06:34", "start": "01:06:27", "text": "was around six. Mhm. And the past life"}, {"end": "01:06:37", "start": "01:06:30", "text": "experiences were around seven. Okay."}, {"end": "01:06:41", "start": "01:06:34", "text": "And uh after that past life experience"}, {"end": "01:06:44", "start": "01:06:37", "text": "at 7, I started getting feelings of like"}, {"end": "01:06:46", "start": "01:06:41", "text": "I kind of knew where my my future life"}, {"end": "01:06:49", "start": "01:06:44", "text": "would be like."}, {"end": "01:06:52", "start": "01:06:46", "text": "Hm. You know, I I had an interest in in"}, {"end": "01:06:53", "start": "01:06:49", "text": "being in the Navy."}, {"end": "01:06:55", "start": "01:06:52", "text": "I'm going to join the Navy, see the"}, {"end": "01:06:57", "start": "01:06:53", "text": "world. I want to go join the Navy. And"}, {"end": "01:06:59", "start": "01:06:55", "text": "then in junior high school, we had to"}, {"end": "01:07:01", "start": "01:06:57", "text": "write an essay on what will you want to"}, {"end": "01:07:04", "start": "01:06:59", "text": "be when you grow up kind of thing. And I"}, {"end": "01:07:06", "start": "01:07:01", "text": "said, I want to be a spy. And I thought"}, {"end": "01:07:09", "start": "01:07:04", "text": "that I was going to be a spy even at"}, {"end": "01:07:12", "start": "01:07:06", "text": "that age. And things fell into place in"}, {"end": "01:07:14", "start": "01:07:09", "text": "my life where one after the other things"}, {"end": "01:07:17", "start": "01:07:12", "text": "started occurring. Not because I planned"}, {"end": "01:07:20", "start": "01:07:14", "text": "them, but it was the free will path I"}, {"end": "01:07:22", "start": "01:07:17", "text": "took happened to coincide with what I"}, {"end": "01:07:25", "start": "01:07:20", "text": "felt. Yeah. I didn't realize it would"}, {"end": "01:07:30", "start": "01:07:22", "text": "lead me there, but everything I did led"}, {"end": "01:07:32", "start": "01:07:25", "text": "up to my career at CIA and all the"}, {"end": "01:07:33", "start": "01:07:30", "text": "things I experienced professionally and"}, {"end": "01:07:35", "start": "01:07:32", "text": "personally while I was at CIA. Do you"}, {"end": "01:07:37", "start": "01:07:33", "text": "think that was a path that was laid out"}, {"end": "01:07:39", "start": "01:07:35", "text": "for you or is that a path that you laid"}, {"end": "01:07:42", "start": "01:07:37", "text": "out for yourself at on some subconscious"}, {"end": "01:07:46", "start": "01:07:39", "text": "level? I would say that I laid it out"}, {"end": "01:07:48", "start": "01:07:42", "text": "for myself. I feel like I practiced free"}, {"end": "01:07:51", "start": "01:07:46", "text": "will. The opportunities were presented"}, {"end": "01:07:54", "start": "01:07:48", "text": "to me. I took those opportunities,"}, {"end": "01:07:56", "start": "01:07:51", "text": "but and so taking those opportunities,"}, {"end": "01:07:58", "start": "01:07:54", "text": "it led me to where I needed to be. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:08:00", "start": "01:07:56", "text": "So, you manifested it, I would say."}, {"end": "01:08:02", "start": "01:07:58", "text": "Yeah. I manifested it, but not"}, {"end": "01:08:04", "start": "01:08:00", "text": "consciously. Not to the point that, oh,"}, {"end": "01:08:06", "start": "01:08:02", "text": "yeah, I'm going to study these subjects"}, {"end": "01:08:08", "start": "01:08:04", "text": "in school and I'm going to do this and"}, {"end": "01:08:10", "start": "01:08:06", "text": "I'm going to do that because I want that"}, {"end": "01:08:13", "start": "01:08:08", "text": "job. That didn't happen. just things"}, {"end": "01:08:17", "start": "01:08:10", "text": "fell into place"}, {"end": "01:08:18", "start": "01:08:13", "text": "where it that occurred. Okay."}, {"end": "01:08:20", "start": "01:08:17", "text": "Yeah. I mean that makes a lot of sense"}, {"end": "01:08:23", "start": "01:08:18", "text": "to me. We you know we talked a little"}, {"end": "01:08:24", "start": "01:08:20", "text": "bit about this at lunch too where I also"}, {"end": "01:08:28", "start": "01:08:23", "text": "I also feel that that there's like"}, {"end": "01:08:30", "start": "01:08:24", "text": "almost like a future memory like it's so"}, {"end": "01:08:33", "start": "01:08:28", "text": "clear it almost seems like a memory but"}, {"end": "01:08:37", "start": "01:08:30", "text": "it's like this vision and it just seems"}, {"end": "01:08:39", "start": "01:08:33", "text": "u sort of like frictionf free in in your"}, {"end": "01:08:41", "start": "01:08:37", "text": "in your uh way to get there. So yeah,"}, {"end": "01:08:45", "start": "01:08:39", "text": "that makes a lot of sense to me. So"}, {"end": "01:08:47", "start": "01:08:41", "text": "okay, in junior high and then um any"}, {"end": "01:08:50", "start": "01:08:45", "text": "other run-ins"}, {"end": "01:08:53", "start": "01:08:47", "text": "subsequent to this?"}, {"end": "01:08:53", "start": "01:08:50", "text": "Well,"}, {"end": "01:09:01", "start": "01:08:53", "text": "when um"}, {"end": "01:09:04", "start": "01:08:55", "text": "I was in the Navy Mhm. Um, I happened to"}, {"end": "01:09:07", "start": "01:09:01", "text": "sign up for a particular rate as we call"}, {"end": "01:09:09", "start": "01:09:04", "text": "them in the Navy, the particular job and"}, {"end": "01:09:11", "start": "01:09:07", "text": "trade for it dealing with electronics,"}, {"end": "01:09:14", "start": "01:09:09", "text": "electronic warfare,"}, {"end": "01:09:17", "start": "01:09:11", "text": "um, signals analysis basically, but"}, {"end": "01:09:19", "start": "01:09:14", "text": "electronic warfare on ships. And that"}, {"end": "01:09:23", "start": "01:09:17", "text": "led me to my very first, you know,"}, {"end": "01:09:26", "start": "01:09:19", "text": "clearance. had a secret level clearance"}, {"end": "01:09:30", "start": "01:09:23", "text": "and I also uh was put on the personal"}, {"end": "01:09:32", "start": "01:09:26", "text": "reliability program PRP because uh the"}, {"end": "01:09:34", "start": "01:09:30", "text": "ships back then destroyers and frigots"}, {"end": "01:09:36", "start": "01:09:32", "text": "carried nuclear weapons on board. I see."}, {"end": "01:09:38", "start": "01:09:34", "text": "And so I was a guard for nuclear"}, {"end": "01:09:42", "start": "01:09:36", "text": "weapons. That was one of my collateral"}, {"end": "01:09:45", "start": "01:09:38", "text": "duties was to guard nuclear weapons. Um"}, {"end": "01:09:47", "start": "01:09:42", "text": "and it was there that you know on my"}, {"end": "01:09:50", "start": "01:09:45", "text": "first ship uh a movie came out. It was"}, {"end": "01:09:52", "start": "01:09:47", "text": "called Three Days at a Condor,"}, {"end": "01:09:55", "start": "01:09:50", "text": "starring Robert Reford and I forget the"}, {"end": "01:09:57", "start": "01:09:52", "text": "actress's name. I know people out there"}, {"end": "01:09:59", "start": "01:09:55", "text": "are screaming the name, but I Oh, Fay"}, {"end": "01:10:02", "start": "01:09:57", "text": "Dunaway. Oh, okay. Yeah, Robert"}, {"end": "01:10:05", "start": "01:09:59", "text": "reference Fay Dunaway. And of course the"}, {"end": "01:10:09", "start": "01:10:02", "text": "story was that Robert Reford was a CIA"}, {"end": "01:10:11", "start": "01:10:05", "text": "officer working um to uh as a researcher"}, {"end": "01:10:13", "start": "01:10:09", "text": "of open source materials trying to"}, {"end": "01:10:15", "start": "01:10:11", "text": "discern whether the open source"}, {"end": "01:10:18", "start": "01:10:13", "text": "materials may have contained classified"}, {"end": "01:10:20", "start": "01:10:15", "text": "information and that little station got"}, {"end": "01:10:24", "start": "01:10:18", "text": "wiped out as the story goes and so forth"}, {"end": "01:10:26", "start": "01:10:20", "text": "and so on. But um it was during the"}, {"end": "01:10:29", "start": "01:10:24", "text": "course of that movie I was with my other"}, {"end": "01:10:31", "start": "01:10:26", "text": "uh shipmates watching the movie. There"}, {"end": "01:10:34", "start": "01:10:29", "text": "was some very attractive women behind"}, {"end": "01:10:36", "start": "01:10:31", "text": "us, maybe a row or two behind,"}, {"end": "01:10:38", "start": "01:10:34", "text": "and there was a scene where Robert"}, {"end": "01:10:42", "start": "01:10:36", "text": "Riffford picked up the phone"}, {"end": "01:10:46", "start": "01:10:38", "text": "and called the operator at Langley and"}, {"end": "01:10:48", "start": "01:10:42", "text": "and played back some tones and the"}, {"end": "01:10:50", "start": "01:10:46", "text": "Langley operator said, \"Okay, that"}, {"end": "01:10:52", "start": "01:10:48", "text": "number is da da.\" And I thought that was"}, {"end": "01:10:55", "start": "01:10:50", "text": "so cool and the women behind us very"}, {"end": "01:10:57", "start": "01:10:52", "text": "attractive saying, \"That is so cool."}, {"end": "01:11:00", "start": "01:10:55", "text": "That is so awesome.\" And I go, \"That's"}, {"end": "01:11:03", "start": "01:10:57", "text": "my job. I need a job that women find"}, {"end": "01:11:05", "start": "01:11:00", "text": "cool. And so, you know, at that time I"}, {"end": "01:11:07", "start": "01:11:03", "text": "wasn't thinking um, you know, in terms"}, {"end": "01:11:10", "start": "01:11:05", "text": "of, you know, joining CIA because that's"}, {"end": "01:11:12", "start": "01:11:07", "text": "what I wanted to do. Sure. But it was"}, {"end": "01:11:14", "start": "01:11:10", "text": "just coincided with that. Yeah. That"}, {"end": "01:11:17", "start": "01:11:12", "text": "Yeah, that's what I wanted to do. And I"}, {"end": "01:11:18", "start": "01:11:14", "text": "told um my shipmates, you know, I'm"}, {"end": "01:11:21", "start": "01:11:17", "text": "going to be in CIA someday. And they"}, {"end": "01:11:24", "start": "01:11:18", "text": "laughed at me. Oh, sure you are. No, no,"}, {"end": "01:11:27", "start": "01:11:21", "text": "you know, I I see myself walking down"}, {"end": "01:11:30", "start": "01:11:24", "text": "the hallways of CIA. Wow. I see it. I"}, {"end": "01:11:32", "start": "01:11:27", "text": "visualize it. I can see that happening."}, {"end": "01:11:34", "start": "01:11:30", "text": "And eventually it turned out that way."}, {"end": "01:11:38", "start": "01:11:32", "text": "You know that what I did in the Navy was"}, {"end": "01:11:40", "start": "01:11:34", "text": "of interest to CIA to the point that"}, {"end": "01:11:42", "start": "01:11:38", "text": "um my senior year in college at George"}, {"end": "01:11:45", "start": "01:11:40", "text": "Washington University. I major in"}, {"end": "01:11:48", "start": "01:11:42", "text": "political science. Um there was an ad in"}, {"end": "01:11:52", "start": "01:11:45", "text": "the Washington Post uh recruiting"}, {"end": "01:11:54", "start": "01:11:48", "text": "military sigant personnel. If you did"}, {"end": "01:11:57", "start": "01:11:52", "text": "signals intelligence in the military,"}, {"end": "01:11:59", "start": "01:11:54", "text": "call us. Write to us. we're interested"}, {"end": "01:12:03", "start": "01:11:57", "text": "in hiring you. And I responded to that"}, {"end": "01:12:06", "start": "01:11:59", "text": "ad and that set in motion the process of"}, {"end": "01:12:08", "start": "01:12:03", "text": "applying for that particular job in CIA."}, {"end": "01:12:12", "start": "01:12:06", "text": "Wow."}, {"end": "01:12:13", "start": "01:12:08", "text": "Um, so during your time at the CIA, I"}, {"end": "01:12:16", "start": "01:12:12", "text": "mean 25 years is a long time, John."}, {"end": "01:12:18", "start": "01:12:13", "text": "That's a long time. Not really. No,"}, {"end": "01:12:21", "start": "01:12:16", "text": "there been other officers who served uh"}, {"end": "01:12:23", "start": "01:12:18", "text": "30 40 years. Okay. But 25 years seems to"}, {"end": "01:12:27", "start": "01:12:21", "text": "be the average limit. Uh, if you ask"}, {"end": "01:12:30", "start": "01:12:23", "text": "Louando, 25 years. Jim Smivan, 25 years."}, {"end": "01:12:34", "start": "01:12:27", "text": "Ask me, 25 years. That's about as much"}, {"end": "01:12:36", "start": "01:12:30", "text": "as I would say you can stand."}, {"end": "01:12:39", "start": "01:12:34", "text": "Okay. Well put. But that does seem like"}, {"end": "01:12:43", "start": "01:12:36", "text": "a long time to be at at at a particular"}, {"end": "01:12:45", "start": "01:12:39", "text": "um office that deals with so much"}, {"end": "01:12:47", "start": "01:12:43", "text": "sensitive information. You know, it's"}, {"end": "01:12:48", "start": "01:12:45", "text": "like drinking out of a fire hose every"}, {"end": "01:12:51", "start": "01:12:47", "text": "day. Like you got all this stuff that"}, {"end": "01:12:53", "start": "01:12:48", "text": "you have to compartmentalize. you have"}, {"end": "01:12:55", "start": "01:12:51", "text": "to judge whether or not you know there's"}, {"end": "01:12:57", "start": "01:12:53", "text": "there's so many uh variables and so many"}, {"end": "01:12:58", "start": "01:12:55", "text": "things on the line including people's"}, {"end": "01:13:02", "start": "01:12:57", "text": "lives and everything else. So it's a big"}, {"end": "01:13:04", "start": "01:12:58", "text": "responsibility but out of those in that"}, {"end": "01:13:07", "start": "01:13:02", "text": "25 years"}, {"end": "01:13:11", "start": "01:13:04", "text": "did you encounter anyone"}, {"end": "01:13:14", "start": "01:13:07", "text": "uh within the agency that you knew for"}, {"end": "01:13:14", "start": "01:13:11", "text": "sure"}, {"end": "01:13:19", "start": "01:13:14", "text": "was read into one of the deeper"}, {"end": "01:13:19", "start": "01:13:16", "text": "programs?"}, {"end": "01:13:25", "start": "01:13:20", "text": "Yes. Okay."}, {"end": "01:13:28", "start": "01:13:23", "text": "Um did you have a lot of interactions"}, {"end": "01:13:30", "start": "01:13:25", "text": "with this person? Yes I did. You did."}, {"end": "01:13:34", "start": "01:13:28", "text": "And"}, {"end": "01:13:36", "start": "01:13:30", "text": "was there any was there any point were"}, {"end": "01:13:38", "start": "01:13:34", "text": "there groundbreaking"}, {"end": "01:13:40", "start": "01:13:36", "text": "was there groundbreaking information"}, {"end": "01:13:42", "start": "01:13:38", "text": "given to you by these? No, because I"}, {"end": "01:13:44", "start": "01:13:40", "text": "refuse to get that groundbreaking"}, {"end": "01:13:46", "start": "01:13:42", "text": "information other than um the"}, {"end": "01:13:48", "start": "01:13:44", "text": "gentleman's name is Pete. His first"}, {"end": "01:13:50", "start": "01:13:46", "text": "names is Pete. He was in my parent"}, {"end": "01:13:52", "start": "01:13:48", "text": "office. uh he was the subject matter"}, {"end": "01:13:54", "start": "01:13:50", "text": "expert uh responsible for gathering"}, {"end": "01:13:58", "start": "01:13:52", "text": "other subject management experts within"}, {"end": "01:14:01", "start": "01:13:54", "text": "CIA to go to the orb working group. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:14:05", "start": "01:13:58", "text": "And um he wanted to read me in and I"}, {"end": "01:14:11", "start": "01:14:01", "text": "said I'm not that interested. Um the"}, {"end": "01:14:14", "start": "01:14:05", "text": "other person um well his name is Perry."}, {"end": "01:14:17", "start": "01:14:11", "text": "Hi there Perry. Uh he I can say that he"}, {"end": "01:14:19", "start": "01:14:14", "text": "was CIA's UAP task force liaison"}, {"end": "01:14:23", "start": "01:14:17", "text": "officer. I see. He is the David Gres"}, {"end": "01:14:27", "start": "01:14:19", "text": "equivalent for CIA. Wow. And I know that"}, {"end": "01:14:30", "start": "01:14:23", "text": "uh he's led uh TVY or temporary duty uh"}, {"end": "01:14:32", "start": "01:14:27", "text": "trips to uh to Area 51 from this one"}, {"end": "01:14:38", "start": "01:14:30", "text": "particular branch that seems to deal"}, {"end": "01:14:39", "start": "01:14:32", "text": "with this um subject matter. Um and I"}, {"end": "01:14:41", "start": "01:14:38", "text": "don't want to call out the branch name"}, {"end": "01:14:43", "start": "01:14:39", "text": "because I think it's still active. Um"}, {"end": "01:14:46", "start": "01:14:41", "text": "but it's in my parent office. It was in"}, {"end": "01:14:50", "start": "01:14:43", "text": "my parent office. Um, and so it was him"}, {"end": "01:14:52", "start": "01:14:46", "text": "and uh he was heir"}, {"end": "01:14:54", "start": "01:14:50", "text": "and then there was under sea. There's"}, {"end": "01:14:58", "start": "01:14:52", "text": "another gentleman, his first name is"}, {"end": "01:15:02", "start": "01:14:54", "text": "Ken, that's initial M. So Perry O and"}, {"end": "01:15:04", "start": "01:14:58", "text": "Ken M. Um, he was under sea. And the"}, {"end": "01:15:08", "start": "01:15:02", "text": "undersea guy, uh, I was supposed to be"}, {"end": "01:15:11", "start": "01:15:04", "text": "read into what I now know as NURO, Nuro,"}, {"end": "01:15:14", "start": "01:15:08", "text": "the National Under Sea or Underwater"}, {"end": "01:15:18", "start": "01:15:11", "text": "Reconnaissance Office. It's the undersea"}, {"end": "01:15:20", "start": "01:15:14", "text": "equivalent of NRO. And there's a program"}, {"end": "01:15:23", "start": "01:15:18", "text": "I can say out loud because it's already"}, {"end": "01:15:24", "start": "01:15:20", "text": "been revealed and naval special programs"}, {"end": "01:15:28", "start": "01:15:23", "text": "NSP."}, {"end": "01:15:32", "start": "01:15:24", "text": "Um, and that originally started uh way"}, {"end": "01:15:35", "start": "01:15:28", "text": "back. One of my el chief uh chiefs uh"}, {"end": "01:15:38", "start": "01:15:32", "text": "preceding me, his name was Jean Potit,"}, {"end": "01:15:41", "start": "01:15:35", "text": "Eugene Potit, a legend at CIA and in the"}, {"end": "01:15:43", "start": "01:15:38", "text": "intelligence community. and he started"}, {"end": "01:15:45", "start": "01:15:41", "text": "something called palladium, the"}, {"end": "01:15:46", "start": "01:15:43", "text": "palladium program as part of that"}, {"end": "01:15:52", "start": "01:15:45", "text": "undersea thing. They were they were"}, {"end": "01:15:55", "start": "01:15:46", "text": "releasing um objects uh from submarines"}, {"end": "01:15:57", "start": "01:15:52", "text": "that would look like craft"}, {"end": "01:15:59", "start": "01:15:55", "text": "from the submarine. Whoa. That was the"}, {"end": "01:16:03", "start": "01:15:57", "text": "Platium program. It was designed to be a"}, {"end": "01:16:04", "start": "01:15:59", "text": "countermeasure against uh radars. I see."}, {"end": "01:16:06", "start": "01:16:03", "text": "To throw them off the scent type deal."}, {"end": "01:16:08", "start": "01:16:04", "text": "Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. And I"}, {"end": "01:16:10", "start": "01:16:06", "text": "think the Platium program is is pretty"}, {"end": "01:16:12", "start": "01:16:08", "text": "well documented now. It's It's no longer"}, {"end": "01:16:14", "start": "01:16:10", "text": "classified, I don't think. Um I think"}, {"end": "01:16:17", "start": "01:16:12", "text": "you can search it and find out more"}, {"end": "01:16:21", "start": "01:16:14", "text": "information about it, but um yeah, but"}, {"end": "01:16:24", "start": "01:16:17", "text": "he was the uh control officer for that"}, {"end": "01:16:26", "start": "01:16:21", "text": "particular Pentagon SAP Mhm. special"}, {"end": "01:16:28", "start": "01:16:24", "text": "access program. Now, special access"}, {"end": "01:16:31", "start": "01:16:26", "text": "programs, that's the Department of"}, {"end": "01:16:33", "start": "01:16:28", "text": "Defense. If someone tells me I was a CIA"}, {"end": "01:16:35", "start": "01:16:31", "text": "officer and I was in charge of a SAP, I"}, {"end": "01:16:39", "start": "01:16:33", "text": "know that person is lying because there"}, {"end": "01:16:41", "start": "01:16:35", "text": "are no SAPs at CIA. They're CAPS. the"}, {"end": "01:16:44", "start": "01:16:39", "text": "controlled access program. So the ODNI"}, {"end": "01:16:48", "start": "01:16:41", "text": "and CIA have CAPS, the Department of"}, {"end": "01:16:50", "start": "01:16:44", "text": "Defense have SAPs. And he was the SAP"}, {"end": "01:16:53", "start": "01:16:48", "text": "representative for that Pentagon program"}, {"end": "01:16:55", "start": "01:16:50", "text": "doing with undersea things. Wow. That"}, {"end": "01:16:59", "start": "01:16:53", "text": "guy knows stuff. That guy knows stuff."}, {"end": "01:17:01", "start": "01:16:55", "text": "And um he said the Pentagon he he my"}, {"end": "01:17:03", "start": "01:16:59", "text": "name was submitted for that particular"}, {"end": "01:17:04", "start": "01:17:01", "text": "compartment. Mhm. And the Pentagon came"}, {"end": "01:17:07", "start": "01:17:03", "text": "back and said, \"No, we're not going to"}, {"end": "01:17:10", "start": "01:17:04", "text": "read John Ramirez into that. No way.\""}, {"end": "01:17:12", "start": "01:17:07", "text": "and he called me up and he said, \"I"}, {"end": "01:17:15", "start": "01:17:10", "text": "can't read you in.\" The Pentagon said"}, {"end": "01:17:17", "start": "01:17:12", "text": "you cannot be read in. You specifically"}, {"end": "01:17:19", "start": "01:17:15", "text": "You specifically cannot be read in. Was"}, {"end": "01:17:21", "start": "01:17:17", "text": "it because of your previous interest in"}, {"end": "01:17:23", "start": "01:17:19", "text": "That's what I think. Yeah. It seems like"}, {"end": "01:17:25", "start": "01:17:21", "text": "that's I definitely think they looked at"}, {"end": "01:17:28", "start": "01:17:23", "text": "my security file. In my security file,"}, {"end": "01:17:30", "start": "01:17:25", "text": "uh, every 5 years we get reinvestigated."}, {"end": "01:17:32", "start": "01:17:28", "text": "Uhhuh. And every 5 years we go through"}, {"end": "01:17:34", "start": "01:17:30", "text": "the same line of questioning. You got a"}, {"end": "01:17:37", "start": "01:17:32", "text": "little notch on it. And Yep. There's a"}, {"end": "01:17:38", "start": "01:17:34", "text": "check mark. um alien drawing beside you."}, {"end": "01:17:40", "start": "01:17:37", "text": "What are your hobbies? You know, what do"}, {"end": "01:17:43", "start": "01:17:38", "text": "you like to do? What what what interests"}, {"end": "01:17:45", "start": "01:17:40", "text": "you? And I said, I'm interested in UFOs."}, {"end": "01:17:47", "start": "01:17:43", "text": "And one of my things I like to do is is"}, {"end": "01:17:49", "start": "01:17:45", "text": "listen to Art Bell and Coast to Coast"}, {"end": "01:17:52", "start": "01:17:47", "text": "AM. I love that stuff. You know, that's"}, {"end": "01:17:54", "start": "01:17:49", "text": "what I'm interested in. And um giant red"}, {"end": "01:17:56", "start": "01:17:52", "text": "flag. That was in my security profile."}, {"end": "01:17:58", "start": "01:17:54", "text": "That that was my interest. And I"}, {"end": "01:18:00", "start": "01:17:56", "text": "reported that several times. Also in my"}, {"end": "01:18:02", "start": "01:17:58", "text": "security profile was the fact that I"}, {"end": "01:18:04", "start": "01:18:00", "text": "attended UFO conferences. Yes. On my"}, {"end": "01:18:07", "start": "01:18:02", "text": "own. Yes. This is because I had a"}, {"end": "01:18:09", "start": "01:18:04", "text": "personal interest and I paid my own way."}, {"end": "01:18:11", "start": "01:18:07", "text": "Yes. For flights, hotels,"}, {"end": "01:18:14", "start": "01:18:09", "text": "accommodations. The only thing I needed"}, {"end": "01:18:16", "start": "01:18:11", "text": "was CIA's permission. And so, um, in the"}, {"end": "01:18:18", "start": "01:18:14", "text": "office of security at CIA, there was"}, {"end": "01:18:21", "start": "01:18:16", "text": "something called the external activities"}, {"end": "01:18:23", "start": "01:18:18", "text": "branch. External activities branch,"}, {"end": "01:18:27", "start": "01:18:21", "text": "anytime you go overseas or take a trip"}, {"end": "01:18:29", "start": "01:18:23", "text": "or out of the Washington DC area, you"}, {"end": "01:18:31", "start": "01:18:27", "text": "have to report yourself. No matter what."}, {"end": "01:18:34", "start": "01:18:29", "text": "No matter what. You can go on a vacation"}, {"end": "01:18:37", "start": "01:18:31", "text": "Hawaii. Yeah. and you're out of the um"}, {"end": "01:18:38", "start": "01:18:34", "text": "Washington DC area, you have to report"}, {"end": "01:18:40", "start": "01:18:37", "text": "the fact that you're going on this"}, {"end": "01:18:44", "start": "01:18:38", "text": "vacation. It's like the CIA's version of"}, {"end": "01:18:46", "start": "01:18:40", "text": "TSA. Yeah, I that's a good way to put"}, {"end": "01:18:49", "start": "01:18:44", "text": "it. Okay. Before there was a TSA, there"}, {"end": "01:18:51", "start": "01:18:46", "text": "was CIA external activities. You had to"}, {"end": "01:18:52", "start": "01:18:49", "text": "report. And if you don't report and"}, {"end": "01:18:54", "start": "01:18:51", "text": "later it comes up in a reinvestigation"}, {"end": "01:18:55", "start": "01:18:52", "text": "that you went on this trip and you"}, {"end": "01:18:58", "start": "01:18:54", "text": "didn't report, you get in a lot of"}, {"end": "01:18:59", "start": "01:18:55", "text": "trouble. Okay. What else did you not"}, {"end": "01:19:01", "start": "01:18:58", "text": "report? See, that's the line of"}, {"end": "01:19:03", "start": "01:18:59", "text": "questioning. They go when you withhold"}, {"end": "01:19:06", "start": "01:19:01", "text": "information Yeah. from CIA during a"}, {"end": "01:19:07", "start": "01:19:03", "text": "reinvestigation. Uh they want to know"}, {"end": "01:19:09", "start": "01:19:06", "text": "why did you do that? Interesting. What"}, {"end": "01:19:11", "start": "01:19:07", "text": "else did you not report? What else are"}, {"end": "01:19:13", "start": "01:19:09", "text": "you hiding? Yeah. So, it behooves you to"}, {"end": "01:19:15", "start": "01:19:11", "text": "think like uh like you're in a"}, {"end": "01:19:17", "start": "01:19:13", "text": "confessional booth and confess all your"}, {"end": "01:19:20", "start": "01:19:15", "text": "sins to mother security or father"}, {"end": "01:19:23", "start": "01:19:17", "text": "security. Um you know, hey, forgive me"}, {"end": "01:19:25", "start": "01:19:20", "text": "for my sins. Yeah. And they probably"}, {"end": "01:19:27", "start": "01:19:23", "text": "have all that now with telephones"}, {"end": "01:19:29", "start": "01:19:25", "text": "anyways. Like I mean it's Yeah. So"}, {"end": "01:19:31", "start": "01:19:27", "text": "probably gotten way more sophisticated."}, {"end": "01:19:33", "start": "01:19:29", "text": "Right. Right. So, yeah. So, they knew"}, {"end": "01:19:36", "start": "01:19:31", "text": "about that and uh so that I think that's"}, {"end": "01:19:39", "start": "01:19:33", "text": "why I wasn't uh allowed to be read into"}, {"end": "01:19:41", "start": "01:19:36", "text": "that particular compartment, but it has"}, {"end": "01:19:45", "start": "01:19:39", "text": "to do with undersea stuff. And I know"}, {"end": "01:19:48", "start": "01:19:41", "text": "that um that particular branch that Ken"}, {"end": "01:19:51", "start": "01:19:45", "text": "was in uh did some interesting things"}, {"end": "01:19:52", "start": "01:19:48", "text": "under the water. You know, underwater"}, {"end": "01:19:54", "start": "01:19:51", "text": "comes up more and more. I mean,"}, {"end": "01:19:56", "start": "01:19:52", "text": "obviously, there's a book that I'm just"}, {"end": "01:20:00", "start": "01:19:54", "text": "starting to read now by Richard Dolan."}, {"end": "01:20:03", "start": "01:19:56", "text": "uh he put out on the history of USOS and"}, {"end": "01:20:05", "start": "01:20:00", "text": "you know formerly I was also looking"}, {"end": "01:20:07", "start": "01:20:03", "text": "into this alleged whistleblower that"}, {"end": "01:20:09", "start": "01:20:05", "text": "came forward on one of these forums"}, {"end": "01:20:12", "start": "01:20:07", "text": "talking about mobile construction units"}, {"end": "01:20:14", "start": "01:20:09", "text": "underwater fastm moving large objects"}, {"end": "01:20:17", "start": "01:20:12", "text": "and then we hear things you know from"}, {"end": "01:20:18", "start": "01:20:14", "text": "Lou like him or not you know he he said"}, {"end": "01:20:20", "start": "01:20:17", "text": "this multiple times and that's been"}, {"end": "01:20:23", "start": "01:20:18", "text": "corroborated by other people including a"}, {"end": "01:20:24", "start": "01:20:20", "text": "rear admiral Tim Galedet you know who"}, {"end": "01:20:27", "start": "01:20:23", "text": "said yeah there are these massive"}, {"end": "01:20:30", "start": "01:20:24", "text": "objects down there moving at 4 500"}, {"end": "01:20:33", "start": "01:20:27", "text": "knots, right? Which which is very fast."}, {"end": "01:20:35", "start": "01:20:30", "text": "Yes. And so, uh, when Ken was explaining"}, {"end": "01:20:37", "start": "01:20:33", "text": "why the Pentagon didn't want me to be"}, {"end": "01:20:38", "start": "01:20:35", "text": "read, and I was arguing why I should be"}, {"end": "01:20:40", "start": "01:20:37", "text": "read,"}, {"end": "01:20:45", "start": "01:20:38", "text": "um, he said, \"You don't understand,"}, {"end": "01:20:48", "start": "01:20:40", "text": "John. This program is the highest"}, {"end": "01:20:51", "start": "01:20:45", "text": "secret, top secret in the entire United"}, {"end": "01:20:54", "start": "01:20:48", "text": "States government. This top secret"}, {"end": "01:20:56", "start": "01:20:51", "text": "information exceeds that of Manhattan"}, {"end": "01:20:58", "start": "01:20:54", "text": "Project.\" And he mentioned Manhattan"}, {"end": "01:21:00", "start": "01:20:56", "text": "Project by name exceeds the Manhattan"}, {"end": "01:21:05", "start": "01:20:58", "text": "Project and the Pentagon doesn't want"}, {"end": "01:21:09", "start": "01:21:00", "text": "you to be read. Whoa. So, okay, that's"}, {"end": "01:21:11", "start": "01:21:05", "text": "and the specific underwater one. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:21:13", "start": "01:21:09", "text": "Okay, that makes a lot of sense. And I"}, {"end": "01:21:15", "start": "01:21:11", "text": "knew about the uh we use fast attack"}, {"end": "01:21:16", "start": "01:21:13", "text": "submarines for spying. Everyone knows"}, {"end": "01:21:19", "start": "01:21:15", "text": "that that submarines are great"}, {"end": "01:21:21", "start": "01:21:16", "text": "reconnaissance vehicles, but it has"}, {"end": "01:21:24", "start": "01:21:19", "text": "nothing to do with reconnaissance,"}, {"end": "01:21:26", "start": "01:21:21", "text": "mundane prosaic reconnaissance of uh an"}, {"end": "01:21:27", "start": "01:21:24", "text": "adversary submarine. No, not when you're"}, {"end": "01:21:28", "start": "01:21:26", "text": "talking about something bigger than the"}, {"end": "01:21:30", "start": "01:21:27", "text": "Manhattan project. Bigger than the"}, {"end": "01:21:33", "start": "01:21:28", "text": "Manhattan project. And that's the key"}, {"end": "01:21:35", "start": "01:21:30", "text": "phrase that I I it was his way of"}, {"end": "01:21:38", "start": "01:21:33", "text": "telling me what this program was about"}, {"end": "01:21:40", "start": "01:21:35", "text": "without saying what about UFOs. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:21:41", "start": "01:21:38", "text": "Well, it's something anomalous under the"}, {"end": "01:21:43", "start": "01:21:40", "text": "sea. Let's put it that way. Well, it's"}, {"end": "01:21:47", "start": "01:21:41", "text": "either that or a Kraken, you know. I"}, {"end": "01:21:49", "start": "01:21:43", "text": "know that his his um branch uh did"}, {"end": "01:21:52", "start": "01:21:47", "text": "operations under the sea, retrieving"}, {"end": "01:21:55", "start": "01:21:49", "text": "things. Now, just to be fair, it could"}, {"end": "01:21:57", "start": "01:21:52", "text": "be submarines, aircraft. Yeah. It could"}, {"end": "01:22:00", "start": "01:21:55", "text": "be adversary undersea satellites, stuff."}, {"end": "01:22:02", "start": "01:21:57", "text": "Yeah. You know, but rockets. Yeah. But"}, {"end": "01:22:04", "start": "01:22:00", "text": "there's something"}, {"end": "01:22:07", "start": "01:22:02", "text": "I can't mention the name, but I know the"}, {"end": "01:22:08", "start": "01:22:04", "text": "people who worked there um in that"}, {"end": "01:22:11", "start": "01:22:07", "text": "particular program. And if I said the"}, {"end": "01:22:12", "start": "01:22:08", "text": "names um you would say, \"Huh, I see.\""}, {"end": "01:22:15", "start": "01:22:11", "text": "Yeah, I'm not going to say the names,"}, {"end": "01:22:16", "start": "01:22:12", "text": "not not on this broadcast. And I I won't"}, {"end": "01:22:19", "start": "01:22:15", "text": "pry it out of you, but one one thing"}, {"end": "01:22:21", "start": "01:22:16", "text": "that is interesting that I, you know,"}, {"end": "01:22:23", "start": "01:22:19", "text": "often come back to as well as Bob Lazar"}, {"end": "01:22:25", "start": "01:22:21", "text": "was,"}, {"end": "01:22:28", "start": "01:22:23", "text": "you know, sort of working for what"}, {"end": "01:22:31", "start": "01:22:25", "text": "seemed like some type of naval"}, {"end": "01:22:34", "start": "01:22:28", "text": "department. Yeah. Or at least the facade"}, {"end": "01:22:36", "start": "01:22:31", "text": "was it was the naval, you know, office"}, {"end": "01:22:38", "start": "01:22:34", "text": "of naval intelligence or department of"}, {"end": "01:22:39", "start": "01:22:36", "text": "department of naval intelligence, which"}, {"end": "01:22:41", "start": "01:22:38", "text": "there is an office of naval"}, {"end": "01:22:43", "start": "01:22:39", "text": "intelligence. There isn't a department"}, {"end": "01:22:46", "start": "01:22:41", "text": "of naval intelligence, but I will tell"}, {"end": "01:22:48", "start": "01:22:43", "text": "you this that when I was at CIA, I had a"}, {"end": "01:22:52", "start": "01:22:46", "text": "cover legend that I could use when I go"}, {"end": "01:22:54", "start": "01:22:48", "text": "on TDY to conferences or whatever. And"}, {"end": "01:22:57", "start": "01:22:52", "text": "uh I was assigned to a Pentagon office"}, {"end": "01:23:00", "start": "01:22:54", "text": "that did not exist and I had an ID card"}, {"end": "01:23:02", "start": "01:22:57", "text": "with my photo on it and everything looks"}, {"end": "01:23:04", "start": "01:23:00", "text": "like a real legitimate Pentagon"}, {"end": "01:23:07", "start": "01:23:02", "text": "identification."}, {"end": "01:23:09", "start": "01:23:04", "text": "Um, and there was on the flip side of"}, {"end": "01:23:11", "start": "01:23:07", "text": "that, uh, there was a signature of my"}, {"end": "01:23:13", "start": "01:23:09", "text": "supervisor, a phone number to call, all"}, {"end": "01:23:15", "start": "01:23:11", "text": "this stuff. And if you call that phone"}, {"end": "01:23:16", "start": "01:23:13", "text": "number and ask about me, because my true"}, {"end": "01:23:19", "start": "01:23:15", "text": "name was on the front of that card with"}, {"end": "01:23:22", "start": "01:23:16", "text": "my picture, uh, do you have John Ramirez"}, {"end": "01:23:23", "start": "01:23:19", "text": "working for you? And person will verify"}, {"end": "01:23:25", "start": "01:23:22", "text": "the fact that I worked for that Pentagon"}, {"end": "01:23:28", "start": "01:23:23", "text": "office when you in fact did not. When in"}, {"end": "01:23:29", "start": "01:23:25", "text": "fact, I did not. Yeah. So, uh, talking"}, {"end": "01:23:32", "start": "01:23:28", "text": "about Bob Lazar, he could be in a"}, {"end": "01:23:36", "start": "01:23:29", "text": "similar situation where he was assigned"}, {"end": "01:23:38", "start": "01:23:32", "text": "to a non-existent cover office that look"}, {"end": "01:23:42", "start": "01:23:36", "text": "legitimate. Sounds the same. Yeah. To to"}, {"end": "01:23:44", "start": "01:23:38", "text": "a uh to the untrained eye, to someone"}, {"end": "01:23:46", "start": "01:23:42", "text": "who's not wellversed in the uh"}, {"end": "01:23:48", "start": "01:23:44", "text": "Department of Defense. Um, that looks"}, {"end": "01:23:50", "start": "01:23:46", "text": "legit. Yeah. You know, and the reason"}, {"end": "01:23:51", "start": "01:23:48", "text": "why I use that card is so I can get"}, {"end": "01:23:54", "start": "01:23:50", "text": "government rates for hotels and flights."}, {"end": "01:23:56", "start": "01:23:51", "text": "Yeah. You know, that's how we used it."}, {"end": "01:23:58", "start": "01:23:54", "text": "And it was it was something to flash."}, {"end": "01:24:01", "start": "01:23:56", "text": "It's the Flash ID to make you look"}, {"end": "01:24:02", "start": "01:23:58", "text": "legitimate, right? And in Bob's in Bob's"}, {"end": "01:24:04", "start": "01:24:01", "text": "case, I mean, obviously, if you're"}, {"end": "01:24:08", "start": "01:24:02", "text": "dealing with something as immense as"}, {"end": "01:24:09", "start": "01:24:04", "text": "reverse engineering uh ET craft, no"}, {"end": "01:24:14", "start": "01:24:08", "text": "surprise that you would have some type"}, {"end": "01:24:15", "start": "01:24:09", "text": "of legend or or cover or or flash ID. I"}, {"end": "01:24:18", "start": "01:24:14", "text": "mean, that's that feels like the minimum"}, {"end": "01:24:20", "start": "01:24:15", "text": "amount of security that they would"}, {"end": "01:24:22", "start": "01:24:18", "text": "require. Yeah, it's very light. I mean,"}, {"end": "01:24:24", "start": "01:24:20", "text": "if you scratch beneath the surface,"}, {"end": "01:24:26", "start": "01:24:22", "text": "it'll fall apart. But yeah, the the idea"}, {"end": "01:24:30", "start": "01:24:24", "text": "was not to gain entry into another"}, {"end": "01:24:32", "start": "01:24:26", "text": "government or Pentagon I see uh base cuz"}, {"end": "01:24:35", "start": "01:24:30", "text": "I have something called a CAC card,"}, {"end": "01:24:36", "start": "01:24:32", "text": "common access card that we were we were"}, {"end": "01:24:40", "start": "01:24:35", "text": "given and so I could use that card to"}, {"end": "01:24:42", "start": "01:24:36", "text": "get into a DoD facility. Um and people"}, {"end": "01:24:44", "start": "01:24:40", "text": "in the DoD know what a CAC card is. I"}, {"end": "01:24:47", "start": "01:24:42", "text": "don't know if they still use them, but I"}, {"end": "01:24:49", "start": "01:24:44", "text": "was assigned one. Um and uh so it made"}, {"end": "01:24:51", "start": "01:24:47", "text": "me look like a Pentagon employee even"}, {"end": "01:24:52", "start": "01:24:49", "text": "though I wasn't. Yeah. But this was a"}, {"end": "01:24:55", "start": "01:24:51", "text": "little bit in-depth. you know, this was"}, {"end": "01:24:58", "start": "01:24:52", "text": "a real card that that uh could gain me"}, {"end": "01:25:00", "start": "01:24:55", "text": "access into actual facilities, right? I"}, {"end": "01:25:04", "start": "01:24:58", "text": "mean, on par for being a spy, I think,"}, {"end": "01:25:05", "start": "01:25:00", "text": "you know, um which is I I would expect"}, {"end": "01:25:09", "start": "01:25:04", "text": "something like that if I were a spy, be"}, {"end": "01:25:12", "start": "01:25:05", "text": "like, where's my secret ID? Um let's"}, {"end": "01:25:14", "start": "01:25:09", "text": "shift a little bit into into something"}, {"end": "01:25:15", "start": "01:25:12", "text": "first. I want to ask just like off the"}, {"end": "01:25:17", "start": "01:25:14", "text": "top of my head, just something I'm"}, {"end": "01:25:19", "start": "01:25:15", "text": "really interested in. Um, has there ever"}, {"end": "01:25:22", "start": "01:25:17", "text": "been any talk stories or anything that"}, {"end": "01:25:26", "start": "01:25:19", "text": "you can share on Wright Patterson"}, {"end": "01:25:28", "start": "01:25:22", "text": "airfield that that you heard uh in by"}, {"end": "01:25:30", "start": "01:25:26", "text": "the water coolers? Not when I was at"}, {"end": "01:25:33", "start": "01:25:28", "text": "CIA. I heard more about right pad after"}, {"end": "01:25:36", "start": "01:25:30", "text": "left CIA and got involved in this topic"}, {"end": "01:25:37", "start": "01:25:33", "text": "at all. Uh, back then right Pat, you"}, {"end": "01:25:40", "start": "01:25:36", "text": "know, it was air force base and I dealt"}, {"end": "01:25:42", "start": "01:25:37", "text": "with foreign technology division. Um,"}, {"end": "01:25:46", "start": "01:25:40", "text": "and then it was called NASC. Mhm. It had"}, {"end": "01:25:49", "start": "01:25:42", "text": "a few names in between. Uh, one was NAIK"}, {"end": "01:25:50", "start": "01:25:46", "text": "NIC, but that only lasted for shortly."}, {"end": "01:25:52", "start": "01:25:49", "text": "And then they added space to air,"}, {"end": "01:25:54", "start": "01:25:50", "text": "national air and space intelligence"}, {"end": "01:25:57", "start": "01:25:52", "text": "center. And I dealt with counterparts"}, {"end": "01:26:02", "start": "01:25:54", "text": "there. Okay. But never anything not to"}, {"end": "01:26:04", "start": "01:25:57", "text": "do with UFOs. Um, no, I it was mostly my"}, {"end": "01:26:08", "start": "01:26:02", "text": "day job of uh dealing with um Soviet and"}, {"end": "01:26:10", "start": "01:26:04", "text": "Russian missile tests, right? Um, there"}, {"end": "01:26:11", "start": "01:26:08", "text": "was a meeting that was had and we'"}, {"end": "01:26:14", "start": "01:26:10", "text": "mentioned this earlier, Brad and"}, {"end": "01:26:15", "start": "01:26:11", "text": "McDonald, BDM. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:26:17", "start": "01:26:14", "text": "Something interesting happened there as"}, {"end": "01:26:19", "start": "01:26:15", "text": "well, right? That wasn't a meeting. That"}, {"end": "01:26:23", "start": "01:26:17", "text": "was me being briefed into a two"}, {"end": "01:26:27", "start": "01:26:19", "text": "compartments. Mhm. Um and so um I was"}, {"end": "01:26:30", "start": "01:26:23", "text": "just there, this goes back to my radar,"}, {"end": "01:26:35", "start": "01:26:27", "text": "my beloved radar. Now I use the Russian"}, {"end": "01:26:35", "start": "01:26:30", "text": "name for it. It's Neman. Ne-p"}, {"end": "01:26:41", "start": "01:26:35", "text": "stands for polygon. Okay. Neman polygon."}, {"end": "01:26:43", "start": "01:26:38", "text": "It's it's a very unique radar. It's very"}, {"end": "01:26:44", "start": "01:26:41", "text": "sophisticated. Uh, it's probably still"}, {"end": "01:26:46", "start": "01:26:43", "text": "the most sophisticated waveforms ever"}, {"end": "01:26:48", "start": "01:26:44", "text": "seen coming out of a radar. And I've"}, {"end": "01:26:51", "start": "01:26:46", "text": "seen a lot of different signals coming"}, {"end": "01:26:56", "start": "01:26:48", "text": "out of radar. Um, highly capable,"}, {"end": "01:27:00", "start": "01:26:51", "text": "extremely advanced radar. Um, and so we"}, {"end": "01:27:02", "start": "01:26:56", "text": "were flying something that wasn't a"}, {"end": "01:27:05", "start": "01:27:00", "text": "satellite or wasn't a conventional"}, {"end": "01:27:07", "start": "01:27:02", "text": "satellite. It was a very unique"}, {"end": "01:27:12", "start": "01:27:05", "text": "spacecraft."}, {"end": "01:27:14", "start": "01:27:07", "text": "And the spacecraft had uh a like a radar"}, {"end": "01:27:17", "start": "01:27:12", "text": "warning receiver in a car that you know"}, {"end": "01:27:19", "start": "01:27:14", "text": "if the police are as a police car"}, {"end": "01:27:21", "start": "01:27:17", "text": "sitting by the road you know with a"}, {"end": "01:27:25", "start": "01:27:19", "text": "radar gun want to see what your speed"}, {"end": "01:27:29", "start": "01:27:21", "text": "limit is you can detect it. So this this"}, {"end": "01:27:34", "start": "01:27:25", "text": "craft had a similar type of system that"}, {"end": "01:27:36", "start": "01:27:29", "text": "if it was illuminated by a radar, it"}, {"end": "01:27:38", "start": "01:27:34", "text": "would detect that illumination and"}, {"end": "01:27:41", "start": "01:27:36", "text": "actually it would collect some of the"}, {"end": "01:27:43", "start": "01:27:38", "text": "parameters of that radar. M so you can"}, {"end": "01:27:45", "start": "01:27:41", "text": "further it's not just a blip, you know,"}, {"end": "01:27:47", "start": "01:27:43", "text": "you can further identify it by looking"}, {"end": "01:27:50", "start": "01:27:45", "text": "at the parameters and you can match it"}, {"end": "01:27:53", "start": "01:27:47", "text": "to known signals. So I was read into"}, {"end": "01:27:56", "start": "01:27:50", "text": "this spacecraft and that subsystem that"}, {"end": "01:27:58", "start": "01:27:53", "text": "detected the signals as well as um the"}, {"end": "01:28:01", "start": "01:27:56", "text": "intelligence collected by that"}, {"end": "01:28:02", "start": "01:27:58", "text": "particular spacecraft. It's uh dealt"}, {"end": "01:28:03", "start": "01:28:01", "text": "with intelligence surveillance and"}, {"end": "01:28:06", "start": "01:28:02", "text": "reconnaissance"}, {"end": "01:28:08", "start": "01:28:03", "text": "but it didn't look like a satellite. It"}, {"end": "01:28:10", "start": "01:28:06", "text": "uh what did it look like? It looked like"}, {"end": "01:28:13", "start": "01:28:08", "text": "an egg"}, {"end": "01:28:16", "start": "01:28:10", "text": "tapered. Now that's interesting. Yeah,"}, {"end": "01:28:20", "start": "01:28:13", "text": "it it was it was it wasn't uh a cylinder"}, {"end": "01:28:25", "start": "01:28:16", "text": "like a tic tac, but it was teardrop"}, {"end": "01:28:27", "start": "01:28:20", "text": "teardrop oval shape with tapered ends."}, {"end": "01:28:30", "start": "01:28:25", "text": "So obviously when we mention egg,"}, {"end": "01:28:32", "start": "01:28:27", "text": "there's a lot of cases in the past and"}, {"end": "01:28:34", "start": "01:28:30", "text": "I've looked at a lot even in Spain and"}, {"end": "01:28:35", "start": "01:28:32", "text": "like all sorts of cases around the world"}, {"end": "01:28:40", "start": "01:28:34", "text": "with like eggcraft even going back to"}, {"end": "01:28:42", "start": "01:28:35", "text": "Lonnie Zamora um in his you know Sakura"}, {"end": "01:28:44", "start": "01:28:40", "text": "New Mexico sighting. But one thing that"}, {"end": "01:28:48", "start": "01:28:42", "text": "does come to mind is this Jake Barber"}, {"end": "01:28:52", "start": "01:28:44", "text": "video of the alleged recovery."}, {"end": "01:28:55", "start": "01:28:48", "text": "Now what I find interesting here is that"}, {"end": "01:28:58", "start": "01:28:52", "text": "BDM Bradock Dunn and McDonald went"}, {"end": "01:29:01", "start": "01:28:55", "text": "through several acquisitions. Yeah. And"}, {"end": "01:29:04", "start": "01:28:58", "text": "in 2002 they were acquired by Northrup"}, {"end": "01:29:07", "start": "01:29:01", "text": "Grummond."}, {"end": "01:29:11", "start": "01:29:04", "text": "Um, there's a lot of talk that the range"}, {"end": "01:29:16", "start": "01:29:07", "text": "that this egg was collected from was on"}, {"end": "01:29:16", "start": "01:29:11", "text": "Northrup's range. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:29:24", "start": "01:29:18", "text": "Do you think that Jake Barber is aware"}, {"end": "01:29:26", "start": "01:29:22", "text": "that the craft that he collected was"}, {"end": "01:29:29", "start": "01:29:24", "text": "ours?"}, {"end": "01:29:32", "start": "01:29:26", "text": "I can't say it was ours or NHI, right? I"}, {"end": "01:29:36", "start": "01:29:29", "text": "just know that the craft I was briefed"}, {"end": "01:29:40", "start": "01:29:32", "text": "into could not have landed"}, {"end": "01:29:43", "start": "01:29:36", "text": "cuz it was a spacecraft and it orbited."}, {"end": "01:29:46", "start": "01:29:40", "text": "It was an orbital craft that flew into"}, {"end": "01:29:48", "start": "01:29:43", "text": "space collecting intelligence and I"}, {"end": "01:29:50", "start": "01:29:46", "text": "don't think it could land. Didn't have"}, {"end": "01:29:52", "start": "01:29:48", "text": "any landing gears or capabilities. I"}, {"end": "01:29:54", "start": "01:29:50", "text": "don't think so. I think it it was if it"}, {"end": "01:29:56", "start": "01:29:52", "text": "was de-orbited, it would burn up in the"}, {"end": "01:29:58", "start": "01:29:54", "text": "atmosphere like anything else coming"}, {"end": "01:30:00", "start": "01:29:56", "text": "back from orbit into the Earth's"}, {"end": "01:30:02", "start": "01:29:58", "text": "atmosphere. It would just burn up. Mhm."}, {"end": "01:30:04", "start": "01:30:00", "text": "So, I don't think it it was retrieved in"}, {"end": "01:30:07", "start": "01:30:02", "text": "that sense. It can't it could not have"}, {"end": "01:30:09", "start": "01:30:04", "text": "been retrieved. Um, and I may be wrong."}, {"end": "01:30:10", "start": "01:30:07", "text": "Mhm. Well, I just find it really"}, {"end": "01:30:12", "start": "01:30:09", "text": "interesting that there's this giant"}, {"end": "01:30:13", "start": "01:30:10", "text": "coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know"}, {"end": "01:30:14", "start": "01:30:12", "text": "what I mean? That we're talking about"}, {"end": "01:30:16", "start": "01:30:13", "text": "Eggcraft. We're also talking about the"}, {"end": "01:30:18", "start": "01:30:14", "text": "same location, the same company that"}, {"end": "01:30:20", "start": "01:30:16", "text": "deals with this. This all seems a little"}, {"end": "01:30:23", "start": "01:30:18", "text": "bit too right, you know, closely. I"}, {"end": "01:30:25", "start": "01:30:20", "text": "would say this that if you saw and I saw"}, {"end": "01:30:28", "start": "01:30:23", "text": "the photographs of this particular"}, {"end": "01:30:30", "start": "01:30:25", "text": "spacecraft in a hanger. Oh. Um that's I"}, {"end": "01:30:32", "start": "01:30:28", "text": "didn't see the spacecraft itself. They"}, {"end": "01:30:33", "start": "01:30:30", "text": "showed me this is what it looked like."}, {"end": "01:30:37", "start": "01:30:32", "text": "This is what it looks like. This is what"}, {"end": "01:30:39", "start": "01:30:33", "text": "it can do. This is why we built it and"}, {"end": "01:30:42", "start": "01:30:37", "text": "this is why um we're interested in"}, {"end": "01:30:45", "start": "01:30:39", "text": "finding out whether it can be detected"}, {"end": "01:30:46", "start": "01:30:42", "text": "because it's supposed to be uh stealthy"}, {"end": "01:30:48", "start": "01:30:45", "text": "in nature."}, {"end": "01:30:51", "start": "01:30:46", "text": "It shouldn't have been tracked by"}, {"end": "01:30:53", "start": "01:30:48", "text": "anything. Yet, it was indicated, but"}, {"end": "01:30:54", "start": "01:30:51", "text": "based on the data I saw that it was"}, {"end": "01:30:58", "start": "01:30:53", "text": "being tracked by the Russians using this"}, {"end": "01:31:00", "start": "01:30:54", "text": "fantastic radar I talked about, Nean P."}, {"end": "01:31:04", "start": "01:30:58", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "01:31:06", "start": "01:31:00", "text": "so I I don't think it was I don't think"}, {"end": "01:31:08", "start": "01:31:04", "text": "Jake Barber's video I don't know what"}, {"end": "01:31:11", "start": "01:31:06", "text": "the source of that was. I don't know if"}, {"end": "01:31:13", "start": "01:31:08", "text": "that was the actual craft that he was"}, {"end": "01:31:16", "start": "01:31:11", "text": "responsible for retrieving. Um, I don't"}, {"end": "01:31:18", "start": "01:31:13", "text": "know. But I one thing what I was briefed"}, {"end": "01:31:22", "start": "01:31:16", "text": "in could not have entered the earth's"}, {"end": "01:31:24", "start": "01:31:18", "text": "atmosphere and land like that intact. It"}, {"end": "01:31:26", "start": "01:31:22", "text": "would have it would have burned up."}, {"end": "01:31:28", "start": "01:31:24", "text": "Right."}, {"end": "01:31:31", "start": "01:31:26", "text": "And the craft that you saw that they"}, {"end": "01:31:34", "start": "01:31:28", "text": "showed you that was man-made. Oh yeah."}, {"end": "01:31:36", "start": "01:31:31", "text": "Yeah. Oh yeah. It was definitely Well,"}, {"end": "01:31:39", "start": "01:31:34", "text": "let's put it this way. It was built by"}, {"end": "01:31:42", "start": "01:31:36", "text": "humans. I have no idea what technology"}, {"end": "01:31:43", "start": "01:31:39", "text": "was inside the craft other than I know"}, {"end": "01:31:45", "start": "01:31:42", "text": "that there was this radar warning"}, {"end": "01:31:48", "start": "01:31:43", "text": "component in it and I know it took"}, {"end": "01:31:50", "start": "01:31:45", "text": "pictures and I know that it wasn't"}, {"end": "01:31:52", "start": "01:31:48", "text": "supposed to be detected. Okay. Well,"}, {"end": "01:31:54", "start": "01:31:50", "text": "that's that's just interesting there."}, {"end": "01:31:56", "start": "01:31:52", "text": "Um, another question that I had I I'm"}, {"end": "01:31:58", "start": "01:31:54", "text": "going to run through a few of these"}, {"end": "01:32:02", "start": "01:31:56", "text": "questions that I've been holding off on"}, {"end": "01:32:04", "start": "01:31:58", "text": "here while we've been chatting. Um,"}, {"end": "01:32:06", "start": "01:32:02", "text": "have you heard of Tim Taylor? Yes, I"}, {"end": "01:32:07", "start": "01:32:04", "text": "have. Yeah. Have you ever had a runin"}, {"end": "01:32:11", "start": "01:32:06", "text": "with him? Have you ever talked to him?"}, {"end": "01:32:14", "start": "01:32:07", "text": "No. Okay. No, I don't think I have. Um I"}, {"end": "01:32:18", "start": "01:32:11", "text": "had a LinkedIn Pro account for a while."}, {"end": "01:32:21", "start": "01:32:14", "text": "Um Temp Taylor, I think he may have"}, {"end": "01:32:22", "start": "01:32:18", "text": "reached out to me, but I didn't really"}, {"end": "01:32:24", "start": "01:32:21", "text": "reciprocate."}, {"end": "01:32:27", "start": "01:32:22", "text": "I think he just sent a hello message."}, {"end": "01:32:29", "start": "01:32:24", "text": "Okay. Hi, how you doing kind of thing."}, {"end": "01:32:31", "start": "01:32:27", "text": "This was after I started doing my"}, {"end": "01:32:32", "start": "01:32:29", "text": "earlier podcast interviews. Yes. And he"}, {"end": "01:32:34", "start": "01:32:31", "text": "come back. So, he was interested in in"}, {"end": "01:32:36", "start": "01:32:32", "text": "perhaps talking to you maybe. I don't"}, {"end": "01:32:38", "start": "01:32:34", "text": "know. but we didn't follow through and"}, {"end": "01:32:42", "start": "01:32:36", "text": "so I I can't say that I know him in any"}, {"end": "01:32:44", "start": "01:32:38", "text": "way. Mhm. And where does remote viewing"}, {"end": "01:32:46", "start": "01:32:42", "text": "and that stuff fall in? Which category?"}, {"end": "01:32:48", "start": "01:32:44", "text": "Mazant. That's Mazant as well. I would"}, {"end": "01:32:50", "start": "01:32:46", "text": "put it in a mazent because there's a"}, {"end": "01:32:53", "start": "01:32:48", "text": "branch of Mazant. Um that is like"}, {"end": "01:32:55", "start": "01:32:50", "text": "biological mazent or biometric mazent."}, {"end": "01:32:57", "start": "01:32:53", "text": "Biometric mazent. Okay. And a human"}, {"end": "01:33:00", "start": "01:32:55", "text": "brain mazent is a real thing. It's"}, {"end": "01:33:03", "start": "01:32:57", "text": "signatures coming from the human brain."}, {"end": "01:33:05", "start": "01:33:00", "text": "Whoa. And so that they can measure that."}, {"end": "01:33:09", "start": "01:33:03", "text": "Yeah, you can. I mean, Stanford"}, {"end": "01:33:11", "start": "01:33:05", "text": "University has Yeah. But I mean, do do"}, {"end": "01:33:14", "start": "01:33:09", "text": "you think they still do it? I would"}, {"end": "01:33:18", "start": "01:33:11", "text": "think so. Yeah. So, I I think there it's"}, {"end": "01:33:21", "start": "01:33:14", "text": "still a field of study. Um"}, {"end": "01:33:24", "start": "01:33:18", "text": "because humans had uh magnetic sense at"}, {"end": "01:33:25", "start": "01:33:21", "text": "one time just like whales and uh"}, {"end": "01:33:28", "start": "01:33:24", "text": "cessations, you know, they they could"}, {"end": "01:33:30", "start": "01:33:25", "text": "sense magnetic field changes in the"}, {"end": "01:33:32", "start": "01:33:28", "text": "earth and they use the these creatures"}, {"end": "01:33:34", "start": "01:33:30", "text": "use it to navigate. Mhm. And every time"}, {"end": "01:33:37", "start": "01:33:32", "text": "there's some disruption, solar flares or"}, {"end": "01:33:39", "start": "01:33:34", "text": "whatever that causes a disruption, they"}, {"end": "01:33:41", "start": "01:33:37", "text": "get lost and they beach themselves,"}, {"end": "01:33:44", "start": "01:33:39", "text": "right? Because they get lost. And the"}, {"end": "01:33:46", "start": "01:33:41", "text": "humans, they detected that we have a a"}, {"end": "01:33:48", "start": "01:33:44", "text": "dormant capability of doing that."}, {"end": "01:33:50", "start": "01:33:46", "text": "Whether it's dormant or it was made"}, {"end": "01:33:51", "start": "01:33:48", "text": "dormant deliberately, I don't know."}, {"end": "01:33:55", "start": "01:33:50", "text": "That's a whole another area of"}, {"end": "01:33:59", "start": "01:33:51", "text": "discussion. But humans had that"}, {"end": "01:34:02", "start": "01:33:55", "text": "or still do a dormant sense of Earth's"}, {"end": "01:34:06", "start": "01:33:59", "text": "magnetic field. Also your human skin is"}, {"end": "01:34:10", "start": "01:34:02", "text": "a mazing collector in that the uh the"}, {"end": "01:34:12", "start": "01:34:06", "text": "sweat glands are helical antennas. So"}, {"end": "01:34:14", "start": "01:34:10", "text": "underneath your skin there are little"}, {"end": "01:34:16", "start": "01:34:12", "text": "helical antennas"}, {"end": "01:34:18", "start": "01:34:14", "text": "and they act like electromagnetic"}, {"end": "01:34:22", "start": "01:34:16", "text": "antennas and they could measure the"}, {"end": "01:34:25", "start": "01:34:18", "text": "wavelength that your skin is is um"}, {"end": "01:34:29", "start": "01:34:22", "text": "is able to detect. It's it's up in the"}, {"end": "01:34:32", "start": "01:34:25", "text": "like 400 500 gigahertz range up there."}, {"end": "01:34:34", "start": "01:34:29", "text": "millimeter wave they call it. But you"}, {"end": "01:34:38", "start": "01:34:32", "text": "know, you think about how to affect a"}, {"end": "01:34:40", "start": "01:34:34", "text": "human being, zap them with that range of"}, {"end": "01:34:41", "start": "01:34:38", "text": "signals and they start sweating start"}, {"end": "01:34:45", "start": "01:34:40", "text": "doing all kinds of things or you can use"}, {"end": "01:34:47", "start": "01:34:41", "text": "acoustic right uh signatures you"}, {"end": "01:34:51", "start": "01:34:45", "text": "acoustic signals and you can you can"}, {"end": "01:34:52", "start": "01:34:47", "text": "make somebody sick. Mhm. Or um in a risk"}, {"end": "01:34:54", "start": "01:34:51", "text": "extreme"}, {"end": "01:34:56", "start": "01:34:52", "text": "you you can make them um you can make"}, {"end": "01:34:59", "start": "01:34:54", "text": "them vomit. Oh my gosh. Because you know"}, {"end": "01:35:02", "start": "01:34:56", "text": "your your abdominal cavity there's a"}, {"end": "01:35:04", "start": "01:34:59", "text": "resonance there in the audio range and"}, {"end": "01:35:05", "start": "01:35:02", "text": "if you hit it with that audio range you"}, {"end": "01:35:07", "start": "01:35:04", "text": "know all of a sudden things in there"}, {"end": "01:35:10", "start": "01:35:05", "text": "starts to quiver and you get physically"}, {"end": "01:35:12", "start": "01:35:07", "text": "sick. Well if uh if the people watching"}, {"end": "01:35:13", "start": "01:35:10", "text": "this video don't leave a like and a"}, {"end": "01:35:16", "start": "01:35:12", "text": "comment I'm going to play one of those"}, {"end": "01:35:19", "start": "01:35:13", "text": "sounds. So yeah and that goes back to"}, {"end": "01:35:22", "start": "01:35:16", "text": "AHI the uh you know the anomalous health"}, {"end": "01:35:24", "start": "01:35:19", "text": "incidents. Yeah. Yeah. Uh with syndrome."}, {"end": "01:35:27", "start": "01:35:22", "text": "Yeah. They're probably utilizing that"}, {"end": "01:35:30", "start": "01:35:24", "text": "type of human mazet. Yeah. As a a"}, {"end": "01:35:32", "start": "01:35:27", "text": "weaponized version of it. The offensive"}, {"end": "01:35:34", "start": "01:35:30", "text": "side of it. Not just collecting it,"}, {"end": "01:35:36", "start": "01:35:32", "text": "which is more defensive and passive, but"}, {"end": "01:35:38", "start": "01:35:34", "text": "using it to affect another human being."}, {"end": "01:35:42", "start": "01:35:36", "text": "Yeah. And it would be an incredible"}, {"end": "01:35:44", "start": "01:35:38", "text": "shame to do all those studies, you know,"}, {"end": "01:35:47", "start": "01:35:42", "text": "whether it's MK Ultra and Stargate and"}, {"end": "01:35:49", "start": "01:35:44", "text": "all these things after decades and"}, {"end": "01:35:51", "start": "01:35:47", "text": "decades and finding that, oh, there is"}, {"end": "01:35:54", "start": "01:35:49", "text": "something here, there is something and"}, {"end": "01:35:57", "start": "01:35:51", "text": "then just dropping it. Like it seems so"}, {"end": "01:36:00", "start": "01:35:54", "text": "ridiculous. Like especially because all"}, {"end": "01:36:02", "start": "01:35:57", "text": "of that stuff to me seems incredibly"}, {"end": "01:36:04", "start": "01:36:00", "text": "cheap. It's not something that's very"}, {"end": "01:36:06", "start": "01:36:02", "text": "expensive. You know, you give a guy a"}, {"end": "01:36:08", "start": "01:36:04", "text": "piece of paper and a pencil or a woman"}, {"end": "01:36:10", "start": "01:36:06", "text": "and sit him in a room with no windows. I"}, {"end": "01:36:12", "start": "01:36:08", "text": "mean, that doesn't cost millions of"}, {"end": "01:36:13", "start": "01:36:10", "text": "dollars."}, {"end": "01:36:16", "start": "01:36:12", "text": "What is one piece of information that"}, {"end": "01:36:18", "start": "01:36:13", "text": "you think everyone should know? This is"}, {"end": "01:36:23", "start": "01:36:16", "text": "where we're going to talk about"}, {"end": "01:36:26", "start": "01:36:18", "text": "consciousness. Consciousness seems to be"}, {"end": "01:36:29", "start": "01:36:23", "text": "the foundation for the phenomenon. That"}, {"end": "01:36:31", "start": "01:36:26", "text": "is how humans perceive the phenomenon"}, {"end": "01:36:34", "start": "01:36:29", "text": "and how the phenomenon perceives humans."}, {"end": "01:36:38", "start": "01:36:31", "text": "There seems to be a a consciousness"}, {"end": "01:36:41", "start": "01:36:34", "text": "aspect to this aside from the nuts and"}, {"end": "01:36:43", "start": "01:36:38", "text": "bolts. Even though JAPS may not have any"}, {"end": "01:36:45", "start": "01:36:41", "text": "nuts or bolts on the craft, but we call"}, {"end": "01:36:48", "start": "01:36:43", "text": "it that. But the structured craft, aside"}, {"end": "01:36:50", "start": "01:36:45", "text": "from the structured craft, um that's"}, {"end": "01:36:51", "start": "01:36:48", "text": "just physics. That's just mechanical"}, {"end": "01:36:53", "start": "01:36:50", "text": "engineering. That's just material"}, {"end": "01:36:56", "start": "01:36:51", "text": "science"}, {"end": "01:36:58", "start": "01:36:53", "text": "that can be all figured out. But how it"}, {"end": "01:37:00", "start": "01:36:56", "text": "works, there seems to be a consciousness"}, {"end": "01:37:02", "start": "01:36:58", "text": "aspect to it that we don't quite"}, {"end": "01:37:04", "start": "01:37:00", "text": "understand."}, {"end": "01:37:07", "start": "01:37:02", "text": "And I've been hearing that more and more"}, {"end": "01:37:09", "start": "01:37:04", "text": "particularly the way the phenomenon"}, {"end": "01:37:12", "start": "01:37:07", "text": "communicates with certain individuals"}, {"end": "01:37:15", "start": "01:37:09", "text": "and the way individuals can communicate"}, {"end": "01:37:17", "start": "01:37:12", "text": "with the phenomenon. So you have the"}, {"end": "01:37:21", "start": "01:37:15", "text": "human initiated contact you know the"}, {"end": "01:37:24", "start": "01:37:17", "text": "heist you can have that or um using"}, {"end": "01:37:26", "start": "01:37:21", "text": "psionics as Jake Barber's team is doing"}, {"end": "01:37:28", "start": "01:37:24", "text": "to lure the craft down. That's a real"}, {"end": "01:37:29", "start": "01:37:26", "text": "thing because the Russians have already"}, {"end": "01:37:31", "start": "01:37:28", "text": "done it."}, {"end": "01:37:35", "start": "01:37:29", "text": "Do you think that that's"}, {"end": "01:37:37", "start": "01:37:31", "text": "because that to me sounds so insane?"}, {"end": "01:37:39", "start": "01:37:35", "text": "Because I I I just struggle with that"}, {"end": "01:37:42", "start": "01:37:37", "text": "concept"}, {"end": "01:37:45", "start": "01:37:39", "text": "because if you were an intelligent"}, {"end": "01:37:47", "start": "01:37:42", "text": "species, arguably"}, {"end": "01:37:50", "start": "01:37:45", "text": "vastly more intelligent than the people"}, {"end": "01:37:54", "start": "01:37:47", "text": "who are quote unquote summoning you or"}, {"end": "01:37:56", "start": "01:37:50", "text": "inviting you. Um, fool me once, shame on"}, {"end": "01:37:58", "start": "01:37:54", "text": "you. But fool me twice, shame on me."}, {"end": "01:38:01", "start": "01:37:56", "text": "Like I"}, {"end": "01:38:04", "start": "01:37:58", "text": "these aren't fish. These are intelligent"}, {"end": "01:38:05", "start": "01:38:01", "text": "things. Surely they know that if they"}, {"end": "01:38:07", "start": "01:38:04", "text": "get in range, they're going to be taken"}, {"end": "01:38:09", "start": "01:38:05", "text": "down by some microwave cannon. Like I"}, {"end": "01:38:11", "start": "01:38:07", "text": "mean I' I' I'd be hardressed to think"}, {"end": "01:38:13", "start": "01:38:09", "text": "that these intelligent beings would be"}, {"end": "01:38:18", "start": "01:38:11", "text": "willing to put themselves in a situation"}, {"end": "01:38:22", "start": "01:38:13", "text": "a second time to be drawn in. And to me"}, {"end": "01:38:24", "start": "01:38:18", "text": "this, you know, only my opinion, but"}, {"end": "01:38:29", "start": "01:38:22", "text": "seems like we might be interacting with"}, {"end": "01:38:31", "start": "01:38:24", "text": "some type of system rather because if"}, {"end": "01:38:33", "start": "01:38:29", "text": "you simulate war games and these things"}, {"end": "01:38:36", "start": "01:38:31", "text": "start appearing, that doesn't seem like"}, {"end": "01:38:38", "start": "01:38:33", "text": "an intelligently controlled thing that"}, {"end": "01:38:42", "start": "01:38:36", "text": "we're It seems like a system. It seems"}, {"end": "01:38:44", "start": "01:38:38", "text": "like some type of immune response to our"}, {"end": "01:38:47", "start": "01:38:42", "text": "games that we're that we're putting out"}, {"end": "01:38:49", "start": "01:38:44", "text": "there, you know. Um because again, I"}, {"end": "01:38:51", "start": "01:38:47", "text": "don't think so that that that's where I"}, {"end": "01:38:53", "start": "01:38:49", "text": "struggle with all of that. But you said"}, {"end": "01:38:54", "start": "01:38:51", "text": "that the Russians are doing this. The"}, {"end": "01:38:57", "start": "01:38:53", "text": "Russians have done it. Yeah. They"}, {"end": "01:38:59", "start": "01:38:54", "text": "they've they've done what Jake Barber is"}, {"end": "01:39:01", "start": "01:38:57", "text": "doing now. They've already done it. And"}, {"end": "01:39:03", "start": "01:38:59", "text": "where where does that information come"}, {"end": "01:39:05", "start": "01:39:01", "text": "from? Uh it comes from a major general"}, {"end": "01:39:08", "start": "01:39:03", "text": "in the Russian Air Force, retired. He"}, {"end": "01:39:12", "start": "01:39:05", "text": "said that uh they were able to lure UAP"}, {"end": "01:39:14", "start": "01:39:08", "text": "down H and then when it came down they"}, {"end": "01:39:18", "start": "01:39:12", "text": "were able to interact with the UAP just"}, {"end": "01:39:21", "start": "01:39:14", "text": "by body movements and thought. Okay. And"}, {"end": "01:39:24", "start": "01:39:18", "text": "lure them in how? Using psionics or"}, {"end": "01:39:26", "start": "01:39:21", "text": "using nukes? No, not nukes. No, it was"}, {"end": "01:39:30", "start": "01:39:24", "text": "it was like they were using uh"}, {"end": "01:39:31", "start": "01:39:26", "text": "electromagnetic signals. Uhhuh. Um and"}, {"end": "01:39:34", "start": "01:39:30", "text": "frequencies and Yeah, certain"}, {"end": "01:39:38", "start": "01:39:31", "text": "frequencies. Um, I would say that 3"}, {"end": "01:39:41", "start": "01:39:34", "text": "ghahertz is uh magic frequency for some"}, {"end": "01:39:43", "start": "01:39:38", "text": "reason. Um, they respond to 3 GHz. The"}, {"end": "01:39:46", "start": "01:39:41", "text": "radar I talked to you about before,"}, {"end": "01:39:49", "start": "01:39:43", "text": "Neiman P, that is an S-band radar. Um,"}, {"end": "01:39:52", "start": "01:39:46", "text": "it works just below 3 GHz. It's a very"}, {"end": "01:39:56", "start": "01:39:49", "text": "wideband signal. Um, below three 3"}, {"end": "01:39:57", "start": "01:39:52", "text": "gigahertz. Um, it seems to me that Oh,"}, {"end": "01:40:02", "start": "01:39:56", "text": "and the"}, {"end": "01:40:04", "start": "01:39:57", "text": "the craft followed by the RB47"}, {"end": "01:40:08", "start": "01:40:02", "text": "that the late Dr. James McDonald wrote"}, {"end": "01:40:11", "start": "01:40:04", "text": "about um the RB47 being a uh"}, {"end": "01:40:13", "start": "01:40:08", "text": "reconnaissance aircraft. They detected"}, {"end": "01:40:16", "start": "01:40:11", "text": "with their onboard signals collection"}, {"end": "01:40:20", "start": "01:40:13", "text": "systems a 3 gigahertz signal coming from"}, {"end": "01:40:23", "start": "01:40:16", "text": "that. Oh. that they followed. Um the"}, {"end": "01:40:27", "start": "01:40:20", "text": "there were two radars at White Sands uh"}, {"end": "01:40:31", "start": "01:40:23", "text": "testing the V2 and those radars, the STR"}, {"end": "01:40:35", "start": "01:40:27", "text": "587 they were called. It's a 3 GHz"}, {"end": "01:40:38", "start": "01:40:31", "text": "signal. Hm. Interesting. Um so 3 GHz for"}, {"end": "01:40:40", "start": "01:40:35", "text": "some reason seems to be um the magic"}, {"end": "01:40:43", "start": "01:40:38", "text": "wavelength uh frequency rather. Yeah. Or"}, {"end": "01:40:46", "start": "01:40:40", "text": "dog whistle. Yeah, maybe. I don't know."}, {"end": "01:40:49", "start": "01:40:43", "text": "Um but according to this major general"}, {"end": "01:40:52", "start": "01:40:46", "text": "Alexev um they were able to lure down"}, {"end": "01:40:54", "start": "01:40:49", "text": "that this these craft and interact with"}, {"end": "01:40:57", "start": "01:40:52", "text": "them."}, {"end": "01:40:57", "start": "01:40:54", "text": "Interesting."}, {"end": "01:41:02", "start": "01:40:57", "text": "I mean I'd like to see it happen and and"}, {"end": "01:41:04", "start": "01:41:00", "text": "I I wish them the best. I hope I hope"}, {"end": "01:41:06", "start": "01:41:02", "text": "that this is uh you know something that"}, {"end": "01:41:08", "start": "01:41:04", "text": "can be made public and and can be shared"}, {"end": "01:41:12", "start": "01:41:06", "text": "with everybody. Yeah. And I have"}, {"end": "01:41:14", "start": "01:41:08", "text": "classified sources um documenting"}, {"end": "01:41:17", "start": "01:41:12", "text": "interactions, that type of interaction,"}, {"end": "01:41:20", "start": "01:41:14", "text": "but I can't talk about it because it's"}, {"end": "01:41:22", "start": "01:41:17", "text": "classified. Well, um it is classified."}, {"end": "01:41:24", "start": "01:41:20", "text": "Um and I kind of alluded to it in"}, {"end": "01:41:27", "start": "01:41:22", "text": "previous interviews. I laid it all out"}, {"end": "01:41:30", "start": "01:41:24", "text": "for the Age of Disclosure film that, um"}, {"end": "01:41:33", "start": "01:41:27", "text": "I did not appear in, but I participated"}, {"end": "01:41:35", "start": "01:41:30", "text": "in the making of that film. uh they they"}, {"end": "01:41:37", "start": "01:41:33", "text": "ran up against a time constraint and so"}, {"end": "01:41:39", "start": "01:41:35", "text": "they had to cut four hours down to"}, {"end": "01:41:41", "start": "01:41:37", "text": "something that would fit Yeah. at the"}, {"end": "01:41:44", "start": "01:41:39", "text": "Southwest"}, {"end": "01:41:46", "start": "01:41:41", "text": "conference. Yeah. And so, uh, I was able"}, {"end": "01:41:49", "start": "01:41:44", "text": "to collaborate"}, {"end": "01:41:50", "start": "01:41:46", "text": "corroborate that what they did and"}, {"end": "01:41:53", "start": "01:41:49", "text": "explained it a little further, but I'm"}, {"end": "01:41:56", "start": "01:41:50", "text": "hesitant to do it now because that film"}, {"end": "01:42:00", "start": "01:41:53", "text": "provided us with a cover, top cover that"}, {"end": "01:42:03", "start": "01:41:56", "text": "if I say that when there's uh, the now"}, {"end": "01:42:05", "start": "01:42:00", "text": "Secretary of State on there and and"}, {"end": "01:42:07", "start": "01:42:03", "text": "senators and Congress people and these"}, {"end": "01:42:09", "start": "01:42:05", "text": "other high level officials like Jim"}, {"end": "01:42:11", "start": "01:42:07", "text": "Clapper all saying things like that."}, {"end": "01:42:14", "start": "01:42:09", "text": "Yeah. Um, I felt more comfortable saying"}, {"end": "01:42:16", "start": "01:42:11", "text": "that. Are you referring to the incident"}, {"end": "01:42:20", "start": "01:42:14", "text": "with the red cube? I don't know about"}, {"end": "01:42:22", "start": "01:42:16", "text": "the red cube. No. No. The giant cube."}, {"end": "01:42:25", "start": "01:42:20", "text": "Okay. Don't know about that. I saw that"}, {"end": "01:42:27", "start": "01:42:22", "text": "movie, the Age of Disclosure, and that"}, {"end": "01:42:28", "start": "01:42:25", "text": "was mentioned in there. Yeah. I didn't"}, {"end": "01:42:30", "start": "01:42:27", "text": "know anything about I hadn't seen the"}, {"end": "01:42:33", "start": "01:42:28", "text": "film. Okay. I just know what I said."}, {"end": "01:42:36", "start": "01:42:30", "text": "Yeah. The two hours two plus hours that"}, {"end": "01:42:37", "start": "01:42:33", "text": "I I talked about. My goodness."}, {"end": "01:42:39", "start": "01:42:36", "text": "Yeah. Those would be good podcasts to"}, {"end": "01:42:41", "start": "01:42:37", "text": "release as well, I'm sure, in in their"}, {"end": "01:42:43", "start": "01:42:39", "text": "entirety. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:42:45", "start": "01:42:41", "text": "All right. Uh John, we're gonna hop to"}, {"end": "01:42:46", "start": "01:42:43", "text": "some audience questions. Thanks so much"}, {"end": "01:42:48", "start": "01:42:45", "text": "for indulging all of my questions, but"}, {"end": "01:42:49", "start": "01:42:46", "text": "we're going to get to uh some"}, {"end": "01:42:50", "start": "01:42:48", "text": "interesting audience questions. Do you"}, {"end": "01:42:54", "start": "01:42:49", "text": "want to give me a second? I'm going to"}, {"end": "01:42:56", "start": "01:42:50", "text": "turn on that camera back here."}, {"end": "01:42:57", "start": "01:42:54", "text": "So, for the people that don't know, uh"}, {"end": "01:43:00", "start": "01:42:56", "text": "if you become a member here on this"}, {"end": "01:43:03", "start": "01:42:57", "text": "channel, we refer to you as interns or"}, {"end": "01:43:06", "start": "01:43:00", "text": "operatives depending on um you know,"}, {"end": "01:43:08", "start": "01:43:03", "text": "what level you opt in on. But you do as"}, {"end": "01:43:10", "start": "01:43:06", "text": "an operative have the opportunity to ask"}, {"end": "01:43:12", "start": "01:43:08", "text": "the guest a question. These are"}, {"end": "01:43:16", "start": "01:43:10", "text": "prevetted and I've selected them. Uh"}, {"end": "01:43:19", "start": "01:43:12", "text": "give I give everyone 24 hours heads up"}, {"end": "01:43:22", "start": "01:43:16", "text": "and uh right behind me these will be the"}, {"end": "01:43:22", "start": "01:43:19", "text": "questions. So"}, {"end": "01:43:26", "start": "01:43:23", "text": "oh this is good. Actually we were going"}, {"end": "01:43:29", "start": "01:43:24", "text": "to touch on this and we we forgot to. So"}, {"end": "01:43:29", "start": "01:43:26", "text": "perfect."}, {"end": "01:43:41", "start": "01:43:35", "text": "question is, what convinced you the 2027"}, {"end": "01:43:44", "start": "01:43:38", "text": "revelation had to be made public despite"}, {"end": "01:43:47", "start": "01:43:41", "text": "your background in secrecy from Hubby?"}, {"end": "01:43:50", "start": "01:43:44", "text": "Well, first of all, um, I didn't bring"}, {"end": "01:43:52", "start": "01:43:47", "text": "that up in the environment I talked"}, {"end": "01:43:53", "start": "01:43:50", "text": "about. It was a skiff. Mhm. There were"}, {"end": "01:43:56", "start": "01:43:52", "text": "government officials there that brought"}, {"end": "01:43:59", "start": "01:43:53", "text": "it up and I didn't give it much thought"}, {"end": "01:44:03", "start": "01:43:56", "text": "because 2027 was mostly talked about in"}, {"end": "01:44:05", "start": "01:43:59", "text": "the uh channeling community and I don't"}, {"end": "01:44:07", "start": "01:44:03", "text": "really follow the channel community in"}, {"end": "01:44:09", "start": "01:44:05", "text": "any kind of depth. Yeah. Like Bashar"}, {"end": "01:44:11", "start": "01:44:07", "text": "recently talks about it a lot right and"}, {"end": "01:44:14", "start": "01:44:09", "text": "I'm surprised that they are talking"}, {"end": "01:44:17", "start": "01:44:11", "text": "about it but um that question did come"}, {"end": "01:44:19", "start": "01:44:14", "text": "up that discussion came up and I telling"}, {"end": "01:44:23", "start": "01:44:17", "text": "you what I told them is I have no idea."}, {"end": "01:44:26", "start": "01:44:19", "text": "Mhm. I don't know. Um, you should ask"}, {"end": "01:44:29", "start": "01:44:23", "text": "the channelers about it. Ask Chris Bleo,"}, {"end": "01:44:31", "start": "01:44:26", "text": "ask Anelie Schultz. Um, any channeler,"}, {"end": "01:44:34", "start": "01:44:29", "text": "you know, just talk to them. They seem"}, {"end": "01:44:37", "start": "01:44:31", "text": "to know something. I don't, but they"}, {"end": "01:44:39", "start": "01:44:34", "text": "press me for my opinion. Mhm. And it's"}, {"end": "01:44:42", "start": "01:44:37", "text": "just an opinion, right, of something"}, {"end": "01:44:46", "start": "01:44:39", "text": "that is out in social media. Sure. All"}, {"end": "01:44:48", "start": "01:44:42", "text": "right. So, it's not secret in any sense."}, {"end": "01:44:51", "start": "01:44:46", "text": "Yeah. it's just a topic that's coming up"}, {"end": "01:44:54", "start": "01:44:48", "text": "in the public domain. So, I gave them my"}, {"end": "01:44:55", "start": "01:44:51", "text": "opinion and I said, \"Well, I don't know,"}, {"end": "01:44:57", "start": "01:44:54", "text": "but"}, {"end": "01:45:00", "start": "01:44:55", "text": "what is your hope? What What do you hope"}, {"end": "01:45:03", "start": "01:44:57", "text": "for in 27?\" You know, that kind of"}, {"end": "01:45:05", "start": "01:45:00", "text": "phrasing. So, well, my personal hope is"}, {"end": "01:45:07", "start": "01:45:03", "text": "that"}, {"end": "01:45:08", "start": "01:45:05", "text": "maybe they'll show up. I don't know."}, {"end": "01:45:10", "start": "01:45:07", "text": "Maybe maybe the NHI will show up in"}, {"end": "01:45:13", "start": "01:45:08", "text": "2027."}, {"end": "01:45:17", "start": "01:45:10", "text": "That's my hope. Let's just call it a"}, {"end": "01:45:20", "start": "01:45:13", "text": "year they show up. the arrival year,"}, {"end": "01:45:22", "start": "01:45:17", "text": "let's say, and let's say they do arrive."}, {"end": "01:45:24", "start": "01:45:20", "text": "Well, wouldn't it behoove you guys in"}, {"end": "01:45:28", "start": "01:45:22", "text": "government to start disclosing what you"}, {"end": "01:45:30", "start": "01:45:24", "text": "guys know about the phenomenon now? And"}, {"end": "01:45:33", "start": "01:45:28", "text": "this is in 2022,"}, {"end": "01:45:37", "start": "01:45:30", "text": "five years from now, if they do show up,"}, {"end": "01:45:40", "start": "01:45:33", "text": "then people won't won't be like"}, {"end": "01:45:43", "start": "01:45:37", "text": "fearful or surprised or you know, yeah,"}, {"end": "01:45:46", "start": "01:45:40", "text": "you won't have this catastrophic"}, {"end": "01:45:49", "start": "01:45:43", "text": "revelation coming forward. Prepare now"}, {"end": "01:45:54", "start": "01:45:46", "text": "the people share all the information you"}, {"end": "01:45:56", "start": "01:45:49", "text": "can so that if they the NHI show up Mhm."}, {"end": "01:45:58", "start": "01:45:54", "text": "then we are prepared for it because I"}, {"end": "01:46:02", "start": "01:45:56", "text": "told them you guys don't control"}, {"end": "01:46:05", "start": "01:45:58", "text": "disclosure. They do. They can show up"}, {"end": "01:46:08", "start": "01:46:02", "text": "tomorrow."}, {"end": "01:46:10", "start": "01:46:05", "text": "Very true. That's a very good point."}, {"end": "01:46:12", "start": "01:46:08", "text": "What are you going to say then? Oh,"}, {"end": "01:46:15", "start": "01:46:10", "text": "shoot. Yeah, we knew about this for like"}, {"end": "01:46:16", "start": "01:46:12", "text": "since, you know, after World War II."}, {"end": "01:46:18", "start": "01:46:15", "text": "We're sorry we didn't tell you about it."}, {"end": "01:46:21", "start": "01:46:16", "text": "We lied to you about it. That's not a"}, {"end": "01:46:25", "start": "01:46:18", "text": "good optic there. Reveal what you know"}, {"end": "01:46:28", "start": "01:46:21", "text": "now. Yeah. So, it's not a secret."}, {"end": "01:46:31", "start": "01:46:25", "text": "There's no secret about 2027. So, the"}, {"end": "01:46:33", "start": "01:46:28", "text": "environment was actually a skiff, but a"}, {"end": "01:46:35", "start": "01:46:31", "text": "skiff is you don't have to have a top"}, {"end": "01:46:38", "start": "01:46:33", "text": "secret clearance to walk into a skiff."}, {"end": "01:46:40", "start": "01:46:35", "text": "You can walk into a skiff, but you can"}, {"end": "01:46:44", "start": "01:46:38", "text": "only talk about unclassified things in a"}, {"end": "01:46:46", "start": "01:46:40", "text": "skiff, right? It's up to top secret. And"}, {"end": "01:46:48", "start": "01:46:44", "text": "anything below that and below that is"}, {"end": "01:46:51", "start": "01:46:46", "text": "unclassified. And this is nothing of of"}, {"end": "01:46:54", "start": "01:46:48", "text": "any kind of classification, hearsay. At"}, {"end": "01:46:56", "start": "01:46:51", "text": "this point, I I would say hearsay is a a"}, {"end": "01:46:57", "start": "01:46:54", "text": "good way to phrase it. Yeah. But I don't"}, {"end": "01:46:59", "start": "01:46:56", "text": "I don't know what's going to happen in"}, {"end": "01:47:03", "start": "01:46:57", "text": "2027. The only thing I'm concerned about"}, {"end": "01:47:05", "start": "01:46:59", "text": "in 2027 is I'm a big NFL fan. I love"}, {"end": "01:47:07", "start": "01:47:03", "text": "American football, right? And I know in"}, {"end": "01:47:09", "start": "01:47:05", "text": "2027 that my favorite team, the"}, {"end": "01:47:14", "start": "01:47:07", "text": "Washington Commanders, will be the host"}, {"end": "01:47:16", "start": "01:47:09", "text": "team for the NHL uh NFL draft in"}, {"end": "01:47:17", "start": "01:47:14", "text": "Washington DC in 2027. I plan to be"}, {"end": "01:47:19", "start": "01:47:16", "text": "there. So that's a big deal. That's a"}, {"end": "01:47:21", "start": "01:47:17", "text": "big deal to So, so that's what's"}, {"end": "01:47:23", "start": "01:47:19", "text": "happening in 2027. You heard it here"}, {"end": "01:47:25", "start": "01:47:21", "text": "first. Washington Commanders is the host"}, {"end": "01:47:28", "start": "01:47:23", "text": "team for the NFL draft in Washington DC"}, {"end": "01:47:30", "start": "01:47:25", "text": "in 2027. Yeah. And I hope to be there. I"}, {"end": "01:47:34", "start": "01:47:28", "text": "can tell you for sure we will not be"}, {"end": "01:47:37", "start": "01:47:30", "text": "asking you about 2027 in 2028."}, {"end": "01:47:42", "start": "01:47:34", "text": "So that that that you can you can take"}, {"end": "01:47:42", "start": "01:47:37", "text": "to the bank. Um here's another one here."}, {"end": "01:47:55", "start": "01:47:51", "text": "Don't see who this is from here, but"}, {"end": "01:47:58", "start": "01:47:54", "text": "this is uh many experiences believe"}, {"end": "01:48:00", "start": "01:47:55", "text": "entities are angelic or demonic. Are"}, {"end": "01:48:02", "start": "01:47:58", "text": "both true or is one group being lied to"}, {"end": "01:48:03", "start": "01:48:00", "text": "in your opinion? I don't label them as"}, {"end": "01:48:06", "start": "01:48:02", "text": "angelic or demonic, so I don't know how"}, {"end": "01:48:10", "start": "01:48:03", "text": "to answer this. Um, yeah, for me,"}, {"end": "01:48:12", "start": "01:48:06", "text": "they're just entities that showed up and"}, {"end": "01:48:15", "start": "01:48:10", "text": "interacted with me. I personally had"}, {"end": "01:48:18", "start": "01:48:12", "text": "only one I would call bad but not"}, {"end": "01:48:21", "start": "01:48:15", "text": "demonic experience and that experience"}, {"end": "01:48:25", "start": "01:48:18", "text": "was with a reptilian like being that"}, {"end": "01:48:27", "start": "01:48:21", "text": "showed up in in my condo when I lived in"}, {"end": "01:48:29", "start": "01:48:25", "text": "Washington DC. Can you talk us through"}, {"end": "01:48:33", "start": "01:48:27", "text": "that? Sure. I was really pissed off um"}, {"end": "01:48:35", "start": "01:48:29", "text": "because it woke me up and it came toward"}, {"end": "01:48:39", "start": "01:48:33", "text": "me and I got up out of bed and started"}, {"end": "01:48:41", "start": "01:48:35", "text": "punching it with this right fist as hard"}, {"end": "01:48:43", "start": "01:48:39", "text": "as I can."}, {"end": "01:48:44", "start": "01:48:41", "text": "uh cursing at it or whatever just"}, {"end": "01:48:47", "start": "01:48:43", "text": "because it was bothering me. I wanted to"}, {"end": "01:48:50", "start": "01:48:44", "text": "go to sleep and it grabbed my arm and"}, {"end": "01:48:53", "start": "01:48:47", "text": "then I have no memory after that. But I"}, {"end": "01:48:57", "start": "01:48:50", "text": "woke up in the morning with claw marks"}, {"end": "01:48:59", "start": "01:48:53", "text": "on my right forearm. Now a"}, {"end": "01:49:02", "start": "01:48:57", "text": "debunker would say, \"Oh, you just had a"}, {"end": "01:49:05", "start": "01:48:59", "text": "nightmare and you scratched yourself.\""}, {"end": "01:49:08", "start": "01:49:02", "text": "I don't think so because after that uh"}, {"end": "01:49:10", "start": "01:49:05", "text": "incident happened uh on further nights"}, {"end": "01:49:14", "start": "01:49:08", "text": "and this happens like I would be woken"}, {"end": "01:49:16", "start": "01:49:10", "text": "up around between 3 and 4 let's say 3:30"}, {"end": "01:49:19", "start": "01:49:14", "text": "and I would look over on one side of the"}, {"end": "01:49:23", "start": "01:49:16", "text": "bedroom there and there would be a cloud"}, {"end": "01:49:26", "start": "01:49:19", "text": "a green cloud with little white sparkles"}, {"end": "01:49:29", "start": "01:49:23", "text": "in that cloud and I got a sense of"}, {"end": "01:49:32", "start": "01:49:26", "text": "protection from it you know that oh you"}, {"end": "01:49:35", "start": "01:49:29", "text": "know we're here to protect you go back"}, {"end": "01:49:37", "start": "01:49:32", "text": "to sleep, you're fine. We're here for"}, {"end": "01:49:38", "start": "01:49:35", "text": "protection. And so that was my"}, {"end": "01:49:42", "start": "01:49:37", "text": "experience then. And you know, that"}, {"end": "01:49:43", "start": "01:49:38", "text": "didn't last. Um eventually that cloud"}, {"end": "01:49:46", "start": "01:49:42", "text": "didn't show up and I never encountered"}, {"end": "01:49:49", "start": "01:49:43", "text": "that being again. But that's that's the"}, {"end": "01:49:51", "start": "01:49:46", "text": "only like somewhat What What was this"}, {"end": "01:49:54", "start": "01:49:49", "text": "being wearing? Was it wearing anything?"}, {"end": "01:49:56", "start": "01:49:51", "text": "I don't No, I I it may have been a"}, {"end": "01:49:58", "start": "01:49:54", "text": "uniform or something, but I just knew"}, {"end": "01:50:01", "start": "01:49:56", "text": "that its face was very much what we"}, {"end": "01:50:03", "start": "01:49:58", "text": "would call reptilian. reptilian. Wow."}, {"end": "01:50:05", "start": "01:50:01", "text": "Yeah. It's not like a lizard. It didn't"}, {"end": "01:50:08", "start": "01:50:03", "text": "have a snout like a lizard or anything"}, {"end": "01:50:11", "start": "01:50:05", "text": "like that, but it looked like someone"}, {"end": "01:50:14", "start": "01:50:08", "text": "who had reptilian"}, {"end": "01:50:17", "start": "01:50:11", "text": "DNA or reptilian heritage and their"}, {"end": "01:50:20", "start": "01:50:14", "text": "bloodline. It was upright, you know,"}, {"end": "01:50:23", "start": "01:50:17", "text": "walking bipedal. Didn't talk to you at"}, {"end": "01:50:25", "start": "01:50:20", "text": "all. No, not telepathically. Nothing."}, {"end": "01:50:26", "start": "01:50:23", "text": "No. No. But I definitely was young and"}, {"end": "01:50:28", "start": "01:50:25", "text": "screaming. I did it. What was it doing"}, {"end": "01:50:30", "start": "01:50:26", "text": "to try and wake you up? I don't know."}, {"end": "01:50:32", "start": "01:50:28", "text": "Mhm. I don't know. It was just there"}, {"end": "01:50:34", "start": "01:50:30", "text": "invading your space. Invading my space."}, {"end": "01:50:37", "start": "01:50:32", "text": "And that that really made me mad for"}, {"end": "01:50:40", "start": "01:50:34", "text": "some reason. I just felt anger at it,"}, {"end": "01:50:43", "start": "01:50:37", "text": "but no fear. Well, other other uh"}, {"end": "01:50:45", "start": "01:50:40", "text": "entities have come up were more benign."}, {"end": "01:50:47", "start": "01:50:43", "text": "I mean, they were just checking up on"}, {"end": "01:50:49", "start": "01:50:45", "text": "me. You've had interactions with"}, {"end": "01:50:52", "start": "01:50:47", "text": "separate entities as well. Just two"}, {"end": "01:50:55", "start": "01:50:49", "text": "types that one reptilian Yeah. entity"}, {"end": "01:50:57", "start": "01:50:52", "text": "I would say reptilian like. Yeah. Uh and"}, {"end": "01:50:59", "start": "01:50:55", "text": "the other I can't identify because it"}, {"end": "01:51:02", "start": "01:50:57", "text": "was shrouded. It was wearing a cloak. A"}, {"end": "01:51:05", "start": "01:50:59", "text": "hood. A hood. Yeah. A cloak and a hood."}, {"end": "01:51:08", "start": "01:51:02", "text": "How tall? Um I was lying down, but it"}, {"end": "01:51:11", "start": "01:51:05", "text": "was like I would say like five feet."}, {"end": "01:51:13", "start": "01:51:08", "text": "Okay. You know, not they're not small"}, {"end": "01:51:17", "start": "01:51:11", "text": "and they're not super tall. They're not"}, {"end": "01:51:20", "start": "01:51:13", "text": "Nordic. Yeah. But um it was a shrouded"}, {"end": "01:51:21", "start": "01:51:17", "text": "wearing wearing a a cloak, a hood, and"}, {"end": "01:51:26", "start": "01:51:20", "text": "kind of shrouded. I couldn't see its"}, {"end": "01:51:29", "start": "01:51:21", "text": "face. Um, I looked at it as carefully as"}, {"end": "01:51:33", "start": "01:51:26", "text": "I could and I seemed to show some"}, {"end": "01:51:36", "start": "01:51:29", "text": "features, but they they were more it it"}, {"end": "01:51:40", "start": "01:51:33", "text": "seemed like it had like facial features"}, {"end": "01:51:41", "start": "01:51:36", "text": "like a humanoid, but not humanoid."}, {"end": "01:51:43", "start": "01:51:40", "text": "Not like what people describe as Nordic,"}, {"end": "01:51:47", "start": "01:51:41", "text": "which is very humanlike. It wasn't like"}, {"end": "01:51:50", "start": "01:51:43", "text": "that. So human humanlike, but not quite."}, {"end": "01:51:51", "start": "01:51:47", "text": "Yeah. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. And and these are"}, {"end": "01:51:53", "start": "01:51:50", "text": "the beings that I encountered more"}, {"end": "01:51:56", "start": "01:51:51", "text": "often. You've this has happened more"}, {"end": "01:51:59", "start": "01:51:53", "text": "than once. Oh yes. These are my beings"}, {"end": "01:52:02", "start": "01:51:56", "text": "that visit me. Really? Um and the most"}, {"end": "01:52:05", "start": "01:51:59", "text": "current um time I've was visited was in"}, {"end": "01:52:06", "start": "01:52:02", "text": "in the Tucson area where I live. I just"}, {"end": "01:52:10", "start": "01:52:05", "text": "moved uh away from Charlotte, North"}, {"end": "01:52:12", "start": "01:52:06", "text": "Carolina. Moved into the Tucson area and"}, {"end": "01:52:14", "start": "01:52:10", "text": "they showed up one night and they just I"}, {"end": "01:52:15", "start": "01:52:12", "text": "woke up and they go, \"Oh, don't don't"}, {"end": "01:52:19", "start": "01:52:14", "text": "mind us. We just want to let you know"}, {"end": "01:52:23", "start": "01:52:15", "text": "that we know you moved.\" And so yeah."}, {"end": "01:52:24", "start": "01:52:19", "text": "Whoa. Creepy. You're you're fine. We"}, {"end": "01:52:26", "start": "01:52:23", "text": "know you moved. We just want to let you"}, {"end": "01:52:27", "start": "01:52:24", "text": "know we know you moved. What are some"}, {"end": "01:52:28", "start": "01:52:26", "text": "other interactions that you've had with"}, {"end": "01:52:30", "start": "01:52:27", "text": "them? Have they talked to you? Have they"}, {"end": "01:52:32", "start": "01:52:28", "text": "given you information? Have they not"}, {"end": "01:52:33", "start": "01:52:30", "text": "really? No. They just show up. They just"}, {"end": "01:52:36", "start": "01:52:32", "text": "show up and they just It seemed like I"}, {"end": "01:52:38", "start": "01:52:33", "text": "was examined or somehow, you know, they"}, {"end": "01:52:40", "start": "01:52:36", "text": "I get the feeling we're just checking up"}, {"end": "01:52:42", "start": "01:52:38", "text": "on you. Go back to sleep. You're fine."}, {"end": "01:52:44", "start": "01:52:40", "text": "We're just checking to see you're fine."}, {"end": "01:52:47", "start": "01:52:42", "text": "You know, that kind of thing. It was"}, {"end": "01:52:50", "start": "01:52:44", "text": "almost like monitoring me to see how it"}, {"end": "01:52:52", "start": "01:52:47", "text": "was. Do you feel that you were"}, {"end": "01:52:54", "start": "01:52:50", "text": "potentially part of some hybridization"}, {"end": "01:52:58", "start": "01:52:52", "text": "program? Don't know. Is that the feeling"}, {"end": "01:53:01", "start": "01:52:54", "text": "you get? All I know is that I used to"}, {"end": "01:53:03", "start": "01:52:58", "text": "have nose bleeds a lot. Right nostril"}, {"end": "01:53:05", "start": "01:53:01", "text": "nose bleeds. Been having them since"}, {"end": "01:53:08", "start": "01:53:03", "text": "childhood."}, {"end": "01:53:11", "start": "01:53:05", "text": "Um,"}, {"end": "01:53:12", "start": "01:53:08", "text": "and I just thought that, you know, I was"}, {"end": "01:53:15", "start": "01:53:11", "text": "just susceptible to nose bleeds. Maybe"}, {"end": "01:53:17", "start": "01:53:12", "text": "the air is dry or whatever. I never"}, {"end": "01:53:21", "start": "01:53:15", "text": "associated it with any kind of NHI kind"}, {"end": "01:53:24", "start": "01:53:17", "text": "of calls, but I had that at work"}, {"end": "01:53:26", "start": "01:53:21", "text": "at CIA and I was reaching uh my nose"}, {"end": "01:53:29", "start": "01:53:24", "text": "started bleeding at work and I had some"}, {"end": "01:53:32", "start": "01:53:26", "text": "a box of tissues on the top shelf in my"}, {"end": "01:53:36", "start": "01:53:29", "text": "cubicle. I was reaching for that chairs"}, {"end": "01:53:39", "start": "01:53:32", "text": "had wheels, office chairs, rolled back"}, {"end": "01:53:42", "start": "01:53:36", "text": "and I landed flat on my back"}, {"end": "01:53:43", "start": "01:53:39", "text": "and my co-workers were shocked and I oh"}, {"end": "01:53:47", "start": "01:53:42", "text": "my gosh, what happened to John? you"}, {"end": "01:53:48", "start": "01:53:43", "text": "know, they called medical um and the uh"}, {"end": "01:53:53", "start": "01:53:47", "text": "protective officers showed up, uniform"}, {"end": "01:53:55", "start": "01:53:48", "text": "protective officers. Um we call them spo"}, {"end": "01:53:58", "start": "01:53:53", "text": "security protection officers and"}, {"end": "01:54:00", "start": "01:53:55", "text": "uniform. Um they showed up to escort a"}, {"end": "01:54:01", "start": "01:53:58", "text": "um medical people. I think it was a"}, {"end": "01:54:04", "start": "01:54:00", "text": "nurse or something. They put me on a"}, {"end": "01:54:07", "start": "01:54:01", "text": "gurnie and off I go to office of medical"}, {"end": "01:54:11", "start": "01:54:04", "text": "services on the first floor and um I was"}, {"end": "01:54:13", "start": "01:54:07", "text": "examined by a doctor. Um, first they"}, {"end": "01:54:17", "start": "01:54:11", "text": "took an X-ray."}, {"end": "01:54:19", "start": "01:54:13", "text": "I took an X-ray and they got the results"}, {"end": "01:54:23", "start": "01:54:17", "text": "of the X-ray and they go, \"Have you ever"}, {"end": "01:54:26", "start": "01:54:19", "text": "had a bad accident?\""}, {"end": "01:54:29", "start": "01:54:23", "text": "Said, \"No.\" So they, \"Looks like you had"}, {"end": "01:54:31", "start": "01:54:26", "text": "an accident. Did you ever have surgery?\""}, {"end": "01:54:32", "start": "01:54:29", "text": "\"No.\""}, {"end": "01:54:34", "start": "01:54:31", "text": "And then said, \"Well, let's look at your"}, {"end": "01:54:38", "start": "01:54:32", "text": "nose.\" And so I lay back down and they"}, {"end": "01:54:40", "start": "01:54:34", "text": "looked at my nose, you know, and they"}, {"end": "01:54:44", "start": "01:54:38", "text": "go, \"Have you ever had surgery in your"}, {"end": "01:54:46", "start": "01:54:40", "text": "nostril?\" \"No.\" And I said, \"Why? Why do"}, {"end": "01:54:49", "start": "01:54:44", "text": "you say that?\" Cuz there's a surgical"}, {"end": "01:54:52", "start": "01:54:46", "text": "cut deep in your nostril. It is a"}, {"end": "01:54:55", "start": "01:54:49", "text": "surgical cut"}, {"end": "01:54:58", "start": "01:54:52", "text": "as if I was operated on. Wow. And oh,"}, {"end": "01:55:01", "start": "01:54:55", "text": "there's some debris there. Can we remove"}, {"end": "01:55:04", "start": "01:54:58", "text": "that debris? And sure, whatever. do"}, {"end": "01:55:05", "start": "01:55:01", "text": "whatever you want and and so let me call"}, {"end": "01:55:07", "start": "01:55:04", "text": "my colleagues. So there were two doctors"}, {"end": "01:55:11", "start": "01:55:05", "text": "now and the other doctor the second"}, {"end": "01:55:13", "start": "01:55:07", "text": "doctor looked in my nose. Oh yeah. And"}, {"end": "01:55:14", "start": "01:55:11", "text": "then they go off and had a sidebar"}, {"end": "01:55:16", "start": "01:55:13", "text": "leaving me out of the conversation at"}, {"end": "01:55:19", "start": "01:55:14", "text": "the CIA. Yeah. Office of Medical"}, {"end": "01:55:21", "start": "01:55:16", "text": "Services. They were talking sidebar."}, {"end": "01:55:24", "start": "01:55:19", "text": "They came back and said, \"Yeah, we we"}, {"end": "01:55:27", "start": "01:55:21", "text": "want can we extract that this debris?\""}, {"end": "01:55:30", "start": "01:55:24", "text": "Sure. Go ahead. Okay. and we'll extract"}, {"end": "01:55:32", "start": "01:55:27", "text": "it and then we'll we'll we'll cauterize,"}, {"end": "01:55:34", "start": "01:55:30", "text": "you know, we'll they did something to a"}, {"end": "01:55:37", "start": "01:55:32", "text": "nose to close that surgical wound or"}, {"end": "01:55:39", "start": "01:55:34", "text": "whatever to stop it from bleeding. I"}, {"end": "01:55:42", "start": "01:55:37", "text": "don't know what happened to it um at"}, {"end": "01:55:45", "start": "01:55:39", "text": "all. Um and off they go. They had a"}, {"end": "01:55:47", "start": "01:55:42", "text": "sample of whatever they collected. They"}, {"end": "01:55:49", "start": "01:55:45", "text": "closed the wound. Didn't have any nose"}, {"end": "01:55:51", "start": "01:55:47", "text": "bleeds after that. That's the good news."}, {"end": "01:55:54", "start": "01:55:49", "text": "So, here I am retired. We're going to"}, {"end": "01:55:57", "start": "01:55:51", "text": "retire. It's in the month of September"}, {"end": "01:55:58", "start": "01:55:54", "text": "of 20, 2009"}, {"end": "01:56:00", "start": "01:55:57", "text": "and I had uh plans to retire on"}, {"end": "01:56:03", "start": "01:55:58", "text": "September the 30th. That was going to be"}, {"end": "01:56:05", "start": "01:56:00", "text": "my last day. So I was going out check"}, {"end": "01:56:07", "start": "01:56:03", "text": "checkout list, right? You got to go here"}, {"end": "01:56:11", "start": "01:56:05", "text": "check out they even go to the library to"}, {"end": "01:56:12", "start": "01:56:07", "text": "make sure you don't owe library fines"}, {"end": "01:56:14", "start": "01:56:11", "text": "cuz they find you. If you check out a"}, {"end": "01:56:16", "start": "01:56:12", "text": "book from the CIA library and you don't"}, {"end": "01:56:18", "start": "01:56:14", "text": "return on time, they find you. Okay. So"}, {"end": "01:56:20", "start": "01:56:16", "text": "yeah, you're clear for that. D and so"}, {"end": "01:56:23", "start": "01:56:18", "text": "security go there. Oh my gosh, you have"}, {"end": "01:56:26", "start": "01:56:20", "text": "what? Over two dozen compartments. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:56:28", "start": "01:56:23", "text": "Yeah, I was in the DS&T. What can I say?"}, {"end": "01:56:31", "start": "01:56:26", "text": "People in the DS&T seem to gather a lot"}, {"end": "01:56:32", "start": "01:56:28", "text": "of compartments. Um so forth and so on."}, {"end": "01:56:35", "start": "01:56:31", "text": "And then I went to medical services and"}, {"end": "01:56:37", "start": "01:56:32", "text": "they were going to uh check off on that"}, {"end": "01:56:40", "start": "01:56:35", "text": "that I reported to medical services."}, {"end": "01:56:44", "start": "01:56:37", "text": "Then I go, \"Oh, by the way, can I get I"}, {"end": "01:56:47", "start": "01:56:40", "text": "had something done here um way back when"}, {"end": "01:56:50", "start": "01:56:44", "text": "um and by then it was um oh like 10"}, {"end": "01:56:54", "start": "01:56:47", "text": "years has have passed and can I get"}, {"end": "01:56:56", "start": "01:56:50", "text": "those records?\" I said, \"Sorry, um your"}, {"end": "01:56:59", "start": "01:56:54", "text": "medical records are classified. You"}, {"end": "01:57:02", "start": "01:56:56", "text": "cannot have them.\""}, {"end": "01:57:03", "start": "01:56:59", "text": "Okay. Wait, they classified your own"}, {"end": "01:57:05", "start": "01:57:02", "text": "medical records? They told me, \"Yeah,"}, {"end": "01:57:07", "start": "01:57:03", "text": "you do not have access to your medical"}, {"end": "01:57:10", "start": "01:57:05", "text": "records. You do not. That That doesn't"}, {"end": "01:57:12", "start": "01:57:07", "text": "make sense. It doesn't make sense. Um,"}, {"end": "01:57:14", "start": "01:57:10", "text": "so I couldn't get my medical records cuz"}, {"end": "01:57:15", "start": "01:57:12", "text": "I want to see what they found or if"}, {"end": "01:57:17", "start": "01:57:14", "text": "there anything in there. They extracted"}, {"end": "01:57:20", "start": "01:57:15", "text": "something. Now, I understand they don't"}, {"end": "01:57:24", "start": "01:57:17", "text": "give you your security file at all that"}, {"end": "01:57:26", "start": "01:57:20", "text": "they keep because um when you go through"}, {"end": "01:57:28", "start": "01:57:24", "text": "CIA reinvestigations, they talk to your"}, {"end": "01:57:30", "start": "01:57:26", "text": "friends and colleagues and neighbors and"}, {"end": "01:57:31", "start": "01:57:28", "text": "they do the whole nine yards thing."}, {"end": "01:57:33", "start": "01:57:30", "text": "Yeah. And it could be detrimental"}, {"end": "01:57:36", "start": "01:57:31", "text": "information from a colleague. Sure."}, {"end": "01:57:38", "start": "01:57:33", "text": "saying, \"Yeah, do you know, you know,"}, {"end": "01:57:40", "start": "01:57:36", "text": "John likes to drink too much and I was"}, {"end": "01:57:41", "start": "01:57:38", "text": "at a party and he was drunk.\" You know,"}, {"end": "01:57:44", "start": "01:57:40", "text": "there could be stuff like that in there."}, {"end": "01:57:46", "start": "01:57:41", "text": "Mhm. Not that I drank too much or any"}, {"end": "01:57:48", "start": "01:57:44", "text": "less. Yeah. But, you know, there's"}, {"end": "01:57:50", "start": "01:57:46", "text": "detrimental information from your your"}, {"end": "01:57:52", "start": "01:57:48", "text": "colleagues, could be friends or"}, {"end": "01:57:54", "start": "01:57:50", "text": "whatever, girlfriends."}, {"end": "01:57:56", "start": "01:57:52", "text": "Yeah. So, all that's in there. So, they"}, {"end": "01:57:59", "start": "01:57:54", "text": "keep that and that's that's there I"}, {"end": "01:58:02", "start": "01:57:56", "text": "think for 75 years. I understand. Okay."}, {"end": "01:58:04", "start": "01:57:59", "text": "Yeah. So, you know, 75 years from 2009,"}, {"end": "01:58:06", "start": "01:58:02", "text": "you can look at my security file maybe"}, {"end": "01:58:08", "start": "01:58:04", "text": "if you foil it. Um, but my medical"}, {"end": "01:58:10", "start": "01:58:06", "text": "records someone given me. That's one."}, {"end": "01:58:12", "start": "01:58:08", "text": "So, years later, let me advance this"}, {"end": "01:58:16", "start": "01:58:10", "text": "story."}, {"end": "01:58:18", "start": "01:58:12", "text": "Um, Jim Seivan, I knew that he had an"}, {"end": "01:58:20", "start": "01:58:16", "text": "implant. He told me private conversation"}, {"end": "01:58:24", "start": "01:58:18", "text": "before I came out in public. This is"}, {"end": "01:58:25", "start": "01:58:20", "text": "before I came out in public. I knew he"}, {"end": "01:58:27", "start": "01:58:24", "text": "was an experiencer. I knew he had that"}, {"end": "01:58:29", "start": "01:58:25", "text": "encounter which he now freely talks"}, {"end": "01:58:32", "start": "01:58:27", "text": "about. So I knew that background of his"}, {"end": "01:58:36", "start": "01:58:29", "text": "implants and I told him my experience"}, {"end": "01:58:38", "start": "01:58:32", "text": "and so he connected me to a a former CIA"}, {"end": "01:58:40", "start": "01:58:36", "text": "doctor who told me that if you ever"}, {"end": "01:58:42", "start": "01:58:38", "text": "mention my name I will deny that I know"}, {"end": "01:58:44", "start": "01:58:40", "text": "you. Okay. What's his name? I'm not"}, {"end": "01:58:46", "start": "01:58:42", "text": "going to mention his name. He'll deny"}, {"end": "01:58:49", "start": "01:58:44", "text": "that I know him. So I promise I won't"}, {"end": "01:58:54", "start": "01:58:46", "text": "mention your name. Okay. You get one"}, {"end": "01:58:56", "start": "01:58:49", "text": "guess. Um but you know he's let's talk"}, {"end": "01:58:58", "start": "01:58:54", "text": "I'll get you in touch with him. So, this"}, {"end": "01:59:00", "start": "01:58:56", "text": "doctor, a for former CIA doctor,"}, {"end": "01:59:02", "start": "01:58:58", "text": "interviewed me over the phone. I didn't"}, {"end": "01:59:04", "start": "01:59:00", "text": "see him or anything. Um, but he"}, {"end": "01:59:06", "start": "01:59:02", "text": "interviewed me and we went through my"}, {"end": "01:59:09", "start": "01:59:04", "text": "life history and so forth. And he found"}, {"end": "01:59:11", "start": "01:59:06", "text": "it interesting that I had Cherokee"}, {"end": "01:59:14", "start": "01:59:09", "text": "heritage, my great-grandmother on my"}, {"end": "01:59:16", "start": "01:59:11", "text": "father's side, who's Cherokee, Cherokee"}, {"end": "01:59:18", "start": "01:59:14", "text": "woman. And he said, \"Well, my gosh, I"}, {"end": "01:59:19", "start": "01:59:16", "text": "got to put you in a special file here.\""}, {"end": "01:59:22", "start": "01:59:18", "text": "He said, \"Why is that?\" He says, \"Well,"}, {"end": "01:59:25", "start": "01:59:19", "text": "there's a almost a one toone correlation"}, {"end": "01:59:28", "start": "01:59:22", "text": "between experiencers and two heritages."}, {"end": "01:59:30", "start": "01:59:25", "text": "One is Cherokee Indian."}, {"end": "01:59:35", "start": "01:59:28", "text": "The other is Celtic"}, {"end": "01:59:37", "start": "01:59:30", "text": "and for some reason like experiencers in"}, {"end": "01:59:40", "start": "01:59:35", "text": "who were special operators for the"}, {"end": "01:59:42", "start": "01:59:37", "text": "military or intelligence officers, they"}, {"end": "01:59:43", "start": "01:59:40", "text": "either have Celtic heritage or Cherokee"}, {"end": "01:59:45", "start": "01:59:42", "text": "Indian heritage and they have"}, {"end": "01:59:48", "start": "01:59:43", "text": "experiences with the phenomena. Well,"}, {"end": "01:59:51", "start": "01:59:45", "text": "that's interesting. Right. So, I told"}, {"end": "01:59:52", "start": "01:59:48", "text": "him about my my"}, {"end": "01:59:55", "start": "01:59:51", "text": "um"}, {"end": "01:59:57", "start": "01:59:52", "text": "what they did and he said, \"Well, here's"}, {"end": "01:59:59", "start": "01:59:55", "text": "what you do."}, {"end": "02:00:04", "start": "01:59:57", "text": "You can use my full name. You can here's"}, {"end": "02:00:07", "start": "01:59:59", "text": "my social security number and here is um"}, {"end": "02:00:10", "start": "02:00:04", "text": "just tell them that you know me and that"}, {"end": "02:00:13", "start": "02:00:07", "text": "uh I'm still have a contract or some"}, {"end": "02:00:15", "start": "02:00:10", "text": "kind of way to go back to the"}, {"end": "02:00:18", "start": "02:00:13", "text": "intelligence community.\" Sure. let them"}, {"end": "02:00:21", "start": "02:00:15", "text": "know and ask them"}, {"end": "02:00:22", "start": "02:00:18", "text": "do a a HIPPO waiver that is you know"}, {"end": "02:00:25", "start": "02:00:21", "text": "that you can release the files your"}, {"end": "02:00:28", "start": "02:00:22", "text": "medical files to a third party usually"}, {"end": "02:00:30", "start": "02:00:25", "text": "another medical professional have say"}, {"end": "02:00:32", "start": "02:00:28", "text": "you wave your HIPPA and release your"}, {"end": "02:00:35", "start": "02:00:30", "text": "files to me but I won't be able to tell"}, {"end": "02:00:38", "start": "02:00:32", "text": "you what's in them but at least I have"}, {"end": "02:00:40", "start": "02:00:35", "text": "it so okay so that was the end of that"}, {"end": "02:00:43", "start": "02:00:38", "text": "story so he has them I imagine so"}, {"end": "02:00:46", "start": "02:00:40", "text": "because I did request John that's so"}, {"end": "02:00:50", "start": "02:00:43", "text": "messed Uh, yeah. I I I don't know. This"}, {"end": "02:00:52", "start": "02:00:46", "text": "your medical file. Yeah, but it's it's I"}, {"end": "02:00:54", "start": "02:00:50", "text": "can't get my medical files. That makes"}, {"end": "02:00:56", "start": "02:00:52", "text": "no sense to me. I asked Jim Seivan said,"}, {"end": "02:00:58", "start": "02:00:54", "text": "\"Were you able to get your medical"}, {"end": "02:01:02", "start": "02:00:56", "text": "files?\" No."}, {"end": "02:01:06", "start": "02:00:58", "text": "Good luck. No. So, both of you had"}, {"end": "02:01:09", "start": "02:01:02", "text": "implants taken essentially. Yeah. Well,"}, {"end": "02:01:11", "start": "02:01:06", "text": "Jim is public about his he knew that um"}, {"end": "02:01:14", "start": "02:01:09", "text": "I think it was done by a third party"}, {"end": "02:01:16", "start": "02:01:11", "text": "that's not associated with CIA, right?"}, {"end": "02:01:19", "start": "02:01:14", "text": "There's another doctor. You get one"}, {"end": "02:01:20", "start": "02:01:16", "text": "guess for that doctor's name who works"}, {"end": "02:01:22", "start": "02:01:19", "text": "with the CIA doctor. Okay. Just gave"}, {"end": "02:01:24", "start": "02:01:20", "text": "away who they are, but you do your own"}, {"end": "02:01:26", "start": "02:01:22", "text": "research. I'm not going to mention their"}, {"end": "02:01:28", "start": "02:01:24", "text": "names. They asked me not to, but you"}, {"end": "02:01:30", "start": "02:01:26", "text": "know, that's the way he got his removed"}, {"end": "02:01:33", "start": "02:01:28", "text": "and my understanding is his wife had"}, {"end": "02:01:36", "start": "02:01:30", "text": "one, too, and she kept hers in. So,"}, {"end": "02:01:40", "start": "02:01:33", "text": "implants are real. Yeah, implants are"}, {"end": "02:01:42", "start": "02:01:36", "text": "real. That's one thing to a takeaway."}, {"end": "02:01:43", "start": "02:01:40", "text": "Yeah, it's not a conspiracy theory. And"}, {"end": "02:01:47", "start": "02:01:42", "text": "hybrids are real. That's not a"}, {"end": "02:01:47", "start": "02:01:43", "text": "conspiracy theory."}, {"end": "02:01:52", "start": "02:01:47", "text": "And you you said I mean you saying"}, {"end": "02:01:54", "start": "02:01:50", "text": "hybrids are real. That's not a"}, {"end": "02:01:56", "start": "02:01:52", "text": "conspiracy theory. That is not based on"}, {"end": "02:02:00", "start": "02:01:54", "text": "the symposium that you went to. That is"}, {"end": "02:02:02", "start": "02:01:56", "text": "based on other intel."}, {"end": "02:02:04", "start": "02:02:00", "text": "Mhm. That you can't talk about. That's"}, {"end": "02:02:06", "start": "02:02:02", "text": "correct. I cannot talk about that. Okay,"}, {"end": "02:02:07", "start": "02:02:04", "text": "I'm going to show you a picture here of"}, {"end": "02:02:12", "start": "02:02:06", "text": "uh there's this lady that reached out to"}, {"end": "02:02:14", "start": "02:02:07", "text": "me. Uh shout out to Sheila. We had a"}, {"end": "02:02:15", "start": "02:02:12", "text": "phone call."}, {"end": "02:02:19", "start": "02:02:14", "text": "Um"}, {"end": "02:02:19", "start": "02:02:15", "text": "and check this out."}, {"end": "02:02:27", "start": "02:02:22", "text": "That looks like a tooth. This is a"}, {"end": "02:02:29", "start": "02:02:25", "text": "tooth. Uh-huh."}, {"end": "02:02:33", "start": "02:02:27", "text": "Wow. How about that? That's in the"}, {"end": "02:02:37", "start": "02:02:29", "text": "jawbone. Wow."}, {"end": "02:02:40", "start": "02:02:33", "text": "the and the dentist who saw this little"}, {"end": "02:02:42", "start": "02:02:37", "text": "diddy and this is clearly like that's"}, {"end": "02:02:44", "start": "02:02:40", "text": "not a random object. It's got like a"}, {"end": "02:02:46", "start": "02:02:42", "text": "little antenna on it or something. See"}, {"end": "02:02:52", "start": "02:02:44", "text": "that little appendage that looks like an"}, {"end": "02:02:54", "start": "02:02:46", "text": "antenna? And um the the dentist was like"}, {"end": "02:02:56", "start": "02:02:52", "text": "floored. He's like in my 30 years I've"}, {"end": "02:02:58", "start": "02:02:54", "text": "never seen this. He's like did you feel"}, {"end": "02:03:01", "start": "02:02:56", "text": "it? She's like, \"No, but I had all these"}, {"end": "02:03:04", "start": "02:02:58", "text": "dreams of like these things, you know,"}, {"end": "02:03:05", "start": "02:03:01", "text": "taking me and bringing me in.\" So, it"}, {"end": "02:03:06", "start": "02:03:04", "text": "started to make a lot of sense for her."}, {"end": "02:03:08", "start": "02:03:05", "text": "But that dentist was like, \"I don't know"}, {"end": "02:03:10", "start": "02:03:06", "text": "what to do with this.\" And he couldn't"}, {"end": "02:03:12", "start": "02:03:08", "text": "He's like, \"I could never get that out.\""}, {"end": "02:03:14", "start": "02:03:10", "text": "Oh, yeah. She still has it. Oh, yeah."}, {"end": "02:03:16", "start": "02:03:12", "text": "Oh, yeah. Can't get it out. He's a"}, {"end": "02:03:18", "start": "02:03:14", "text": "30-year dentist. He's like, I can't I"}, {"end": "02:03:20", "start": "02:03:16", "text": "would not even try to get that out. It"}, {"end": "02:03:22", "start": "02:03:18", "text": "would be incredibly painful. And like"}, {"end": "02:03:24", "start": "02:03:20", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And yet she doesn't feel it."}, {"end": "02:03:26", "start": "02:03:22", "text": "Yeah. It's in the bone itself. That's"}, {"end": "02:03:29", "start": "02:03:24", "text": "why. Yeah. Yeah. She's had multiple"}, {"end": "02:03:32", "start": "02:03:26", "text": "X-rays, too. Yeah. And so, yeah, when I"}, {"end": "02:03:34", "start": "02:03:29", "text": "see things like that, I go, that's,"}, {"end": "02:03:37", "start": "02:03:32", "text": "you know, it's interesting. That's to"}, {"end": "02:03:38", "start": "02:03:34", "text": "say the least. All right, let's get one"}, {"end": "02:03:40", "start": "02:03:37", "text": "more question out of the way here. Last"}, {"end": "02:03:41", "start": "02:03:38", "text": "question for for you and then we'll let"}, {"end": "02:03:44", "start": "02:03:40", "text": "you go. John, you've been so awesome"}, {"end": "02:03:47", "start": "02:03:41", "text": "answering all these questions."}, {"end": "02:03:51", "start": "02:03:44", "text": "Um, oh, this is cool. This is a cute"}, {"end": "02:03:51", "start": "02:03:47", "text": "question from Gina."}, {"end": "02:03:57", "start": "02:03:53", "text": "Yeah, maybe you have an opinion on this,"}, {"end": "02:03:59", "start": "02:03:54", "text": "maybe you don't."}, {"end": "02:04:02", "start": "02:03:57", "text": "Gina asks, \"What do you think of the"}, {"end": "02:04:04", "start": "02:03:59", "text": "authenticity of the Lerta file?\" Are you"}, {"end": "02:04:06", "start": "02:04:02", "text": "familiar with this? I heard of the"}, {"end": "02:04:08", "start": "02:04:04", "text": "Lertafile. I can't claim to be very"}, {"end": "02:04:11", "start": "02:04:06", "text": "familiar with it. If you refresh my"}, {"end": "02:04:13", "start": "02:04:08", "text": "memory, so it is this guy in Sweden who"}, {"end": "02:04:15", "start": "02:04:11", "text": "apparently had a conversation with a"}, {"end": "02:04:18", "start": "02:04:13", "text": "reptilian female. Uhhuh. Uh and then she"}, {"end": "02:04:22", "start": "02:04:15", "text": "goes into like all sorts of details on"}, {"end": "02:04:24", "start": "02:04:18", "text": "physics and interactions with beings or"}, {"end": "02:04:27", "start": "02:04:22", "text": "anything. Are you familiar with that at"}, {"end": "02:04:29", "start": "02:04:24", "text": "all or No, I am not. So I No opinion. I"}, {"end": "02:04:30", "start": "02:04:27", "text": "can't answer that question thoroughly."}, {"end": "02:04:35", "start": "02:04:29", "text": "I'm sorry. No, that's fair. I'll give"}, {"end": "02:04:37", "start": "02:04:30", "text": "you mine. Um I think there I am higher"}, {"end": "02:04:40", "start": "02:04:35", "text": "conviction"}, {"end": "02:04:43", "start": "02:04:37", "text": "than I was when I was reading it that"}, {"end": "02:04:45", "start": "02:04:40", "text": "this might have happened."}, {"end": "02:04:47", "start": "02:04:43", "text": "Um, but that conviction still remains"}, {"end": "02:04:51", "start": "02:04:45", "text": "pretty low. Mhm. It's just higher than"}, {"end": "02:04:52", "start": "02:04:47", "text": "it was, probably 20% at this point. But"}, {"end": "02:04:54", "start": "02:04:51", "text": "really interesting stuff uh was brought"}, {"end": "02:04:56", "start": "02:04:52", "text": "up. If you ever have a chance to look"}, {"end": "02:04:58", "start": "02:04:54", "text": "into it, it's fun read. Mhm. As a piece"}, {"end": "02:05:00", "start": "02:04:56", "text": "of fiction, highly entertaining, you"}, {"end": "02:05:02", "start": "02:04:58", "text": "know, and if you take it as truth, I"}, {"end": "02:05:05", "start": "02:05:00", "text": "mean, obviously worlds shattering, but"}, {"end": "02:05:07", "start": "02:05:02", "text": "All right. Well, John, um, where can"}, {"end": "02:05:11", "start": "02:05:05", "text": "people find you? Where can people not"}, {"end": "02:05:14", "start": "02:05:07", "text": "physically, but online? Well, um I only"}, {"end": "02:05:18", "start": "02:05:11", "text": "have uh one uh public social media"}, {"end": "02:05:20", "start": "02:05:14", "text": "presence and that's an X. Okay. And uh"}, {"end": "02:05:23", "start": "02:05:18", "text": "my X handle I I actually used one of the"}, {"end": "02:05:26", "start": "02:05:20", "text": "radars that the X this is the radar that"}, {"end": "02:05:29", "start": "02:05:23", "text": "actually tracked uh these objects that"}, {"end": "02:05:32", "start": "02:05:26", "text": "uh raise the alert level, these domes of"}, {"end": "02:05:34", "start": "02:05:29", "text": "light. Yeah. On the Russian side. Um,"}, {"end": "02:05:41", "start": "02:05:32", "text": "it's uh"}, {"end": "02:05:45", "start": "02:05:34", "text": "Pura P E C H O R A LPAR L P A R Pura"}, {"end": "02:05:47", "start": "02:05:41", "text": "Alpar. Yeah, it's Pura largeed phase"}, {"end": "02:05:52", "start": "02:05:45", "text": "array radar. Okay. And so yeah, that's"}, {"end": "02:05:55", "start": "02:05:47", "text": "the radar that detected um uh UAP and"}, {"end": "02:05:56", "start": "02:05:52", "text": "that uh caused the deputy secretary of"}, {"end": "02:05:59", "start": "02:05:55", "text": "defense to wonder what the hell is going"}, {"end": "02:06:01", "start": "02:05:56", "text": "on with the Russians. That's what with"}, {"end": "02:06:04", "start": "02:05:59", "text": "this radar. That's a fun That's a fun"}, {"end": "02:06:08", "start": "02:06:01", "text": "Easter egg. Also sounds like a spell in"}, {"end": "02:06:10", "start": "02:06:04", "text": "Harry Potter. Bura Elpar. Uh John"}, {"end": "02:06:12", "start": "02:06:08", "text": "Ramirez, you're an absolute gem. It was"}, {"end": "02:06:14", "start": "02:06:10", "text": "so nice getting to know you. Uh so nice"}, {"end": "02:06:17", "start": "02:06:12", "text": "chatting with you. Thank you for gracing"}, {"end": "02:06:19", "start": "02:06:14", "text": "us with your presence and uh being very"}, {"end": "02:06:20", "start": "02:06:17", "text": "open and candid with with all of your"}, {"end": "02:06:21", "start": "02:06:19", "text": "answers both personal and"}, {"end": "02:06:23", "start": "02:06:20", "text": "professionally. I really really"}, {"end": "02:06:24", "start": "02:06:21", "text": "appreciate it. Thank you. Well, you're"}, {"end": "02:06:27", "start": "02:06:23", "text": "welcome and uh thanks very much for your"}, {"end": "02:06:29", "start": "02:06:24", "text": "hospitality here. Um, I love this town"}, {"end": "02:06:32", "start": "02:06:27", "text": "that you're in and it's it's really"}, {"end": "02:06:34", "start": "02:06:29", "text": "lovely. Um, and uh, I look forward to"}, {"end": "02:06:36", "start": "02:06:32", "text": "all of this being over actually. I mean,"}, {"end": "02:06:39", "start": "02:06:34", "text": "I just do I wish the NHA would do"}, {"end": "02:06:41", "start": "02:06:36", "text": "something. Just end it all for us. Just"}, {"end": "02:06:43", "start": "02:06:39", "text": "show up. Yeah. I don't know if they will"}, {"end": "02:06:45", "start": "02:06:41", "text": "or not. Or just government disclose"}, {"end": "02:06:47", "start": "02:06:43", "text": "something. Well, if you ever talk to any"}, {"end": "02:06:50", "start": "02:06:45", "text": "of them, tell them that they got an open"}, {"end": "02:06:51", "start": "02:06:47", "text": "spot here on the podcast. We'd love to"}, {"end": "02:06:53", "start": "02:06:50", "text": "have them in the skiff. All right."}, {"end": "02:06:57", "start": "02:06:51", "text": "Thanks, John."}, {"end": "02:07:13", "start": "02:06:53", "text": "Oh, and that's it, sir."}, {"end": "02:07:13", "start": "02:06:57", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:03", "text": "Hey, my name is Josh. When I was about"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:06", "text": "11 years old, I was in my living room."}, {"end": "00:00:13", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "It was about 1:00 a.m. Everybody else in"}, {"end": "00:00:15", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "the house was asleep, and all of a"}, {"end": "00:00:18", "start": "00:00:13", "text": "sudden, I started seeing like a orange"}, {"end": "00:00:20", "start": "00:00:15", "text": "glow outside of my front window. We"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:18", "text": "lived right next to an airport, so I"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:20", "text": "really didn't think much of anything of"}, {"end": "00:00:25", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "it. Well, the glow started getting"}, {"end": "00:00:28", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "brighter and brighter and brighter, and"}, {"end": "00:00:30", "start": "00:00:25", "text": "I started hearing a low hum. Um, and it"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:28", "text": "wasn't like an electronic hum that I've"}, {"end": "00:00:34", "start": "00:00:30", "text": "heard before. So, I kind of started"}, {"end": "00:00:36", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "freaking out a little bit, like, what's"}, {"end": "00:00:39", "start": "00:00:34", "text": "going on? Is there a helicopter getting"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:36", "text": "close to my apartment? You know, I just"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:39", "text": "really didn't know. So, I got up and"}, {"end": "00:00:44", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "looked outside and what I saw was a"}, {"end": "00:00:47", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "discshaped"}, {"end": "00:00:48", "start": "00:00:44", "text": "object hovering probably about 4 or 500"}, {"end": "00:00:53", "start": "00:00:47", "text": "ft"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:48", "text": "away from the apartment up in the sky."}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:53", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Chris"}, {"end": "00:01:00", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "Ramsey and welcome back to yet another"}, {"end": "00:01:02", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "episode of Debriefed. And today we are"}, {"end": "00:01:05", "start": "00:01:00", "text": "going to be continuing our readthrough"}, {"end": "00:01:09", "start": "00:01:02", "text": "of the alien interview by Lawrence R."}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:05", "text": "Spencer. Uh, allegedly 1947, this nurse"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:09", "text": "was given permission or she was the only"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "one able to communicate with the last"}, {"end": "00:01:21", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "surviving alien that crashed at Roswell"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "and since then has sent her notes to the"}, {"end": "00:01:25", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "author here. And he took the transcripts"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "verbatim and published them here. And"}, {"end": "00:01:30", "start": "00:01:25", "text": "this is basically a discussion between a"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "person and an alien. And the alien uh"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:30", "text": "known as Errol, who identifies as an"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "Isby, an Isby being the spirit that"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "inhabits all living sentient beings,"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "including ourselves, has revealed to us"}, {"end": "00:01:49", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "that they've been monitoring and"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "visiting Earth for thousands of years."}, {"end": "00:01:55", "start": "00:01:49", "text": "And Arrol, as a matter of fact, is over,"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "I think, close to half a billion years"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:55", "text": "old. I don't know. This story gets a"}, {"end": "00:02:03", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "little wild. And starting now it gets"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "even wilder. 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So, all of the interns"}, {"end": "00:02:53", "start": "00:02:49", "text": "actually got these videos early. If you"}, {"end": "00:02:55", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "want to do that, go ahead and do that."}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:53", "text": "Folks, we paid the bills. It is time to"}, {"end": "00:02:58", "start": "00:02:55", "text": "continue with our read through. Let's"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "get into it. Yeah, we left off talking"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:58", "text": "about how space travel technologies"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "started 80 trillion years ago. Yeah, I"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "guess quick little reminder to check the"}, {"end": "00:03:10", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "disbelief at the door at least for the"}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "next hour or so. You know, it'll be"}, {"end": "00:03:15", "start": "00:03:10", "text": "right where you left it when you choose"}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "to pick it back up. But I often like"}, {"end": "00:03:19", "start": "00:03:15", "text": "reminding people that, you know, you you"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "don't have to be religious to read the"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:19", "text": "Bible. And you you don't have to be a"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "physicist to read physics books."}, {"end": "00:03:26", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "Although you probably have to be a"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "physics physicist to understand what's"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:26", "text": "in the physics books, but you can read"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "them without becoming a physicist,"}, {"end": "00:03:33", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "right? And that's kind of what this is"}, {"end": "00:03:35", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "about. We're reading something that"}, {"end": "00:03:37", "start": "00:03:33", "text": "might be fiction, but that doesn't mean"}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:35", "text": "we have to believe it. This whole"}, {"end": "00:03:41", "start": "00:03:37", "text": "believe it or don't believe it thing"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "frankly annoys me a little bit. You"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:41", "text": "know, when people are like, \"Do you"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "believe in that or do you not believe in"}, {"end": "00:03:47", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "that?\" Or, \"I don't believe this guy. I"}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "believe that guy. This guy's lying. I"}, {"end": "00:03:51", "start": "00:03:47", "text": "don't believe him. He's telling the"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "truth.\" Just it's information. Take it"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:51", "text": "in. Don't believe anything. Don't not"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "believe anything. Why do you have to"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "commit to something? Why is everything"}, {"end": "00:04:05", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "so binary? Just absorb the"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "information and that's it. Only when we"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:05", "text": "have a strong conviction about something"}, {"end": "00:04:09", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "do we become defensive about that"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "stance. And that's usually what we're"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:09", "text": "seeing in these arguments in the"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "community and everything else. So, you"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "know, just just take it take take it as"}, {"end": "00:04:18", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "information. All right, let's go. Errol"}, {"end": "00:04:20", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "described the abilities of an Isby"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:18", "text": "officer of the domain to me and she"}, {"end": "00:04:24", "start": "00:04:20", "text": "demonstrated one to me when she"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "contacted telepathically a"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:24", "text": "communications officer of the domain who"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "is stationed in the asteroid belt. Whoa."}, {"end": "00:04:34", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "So, she's got Arrol's got some type of"}, {"end": "00:04:37", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "instant Wi-Fi, you know, communication"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:34", "text": "going here with uh with the domain in"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:37", "text": "the asteroid belt. The asteroid belt is"}, {"end": "00:04:43", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "composed of thousands of broken up"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "pieces of a planet that once existed"}, {"end": "00:04:48", "start": "00:04:43", "text": "between Mars and Jupiter. It serves as a"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "good lowgravity jumping off point for"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:48", "text": "incoming spacecraft traveling toward the"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "center of our"}, {"end": "00:04:57", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "galaxy. She requested that this officer"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "consult information stored in the files"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:57", "text": "of the domain concerning the history of"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "Earth. She asked the communications"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "officer to feed this information to"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "Arrol. The communications officer"}, {"end": "00:05:09", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "immediately complied with the request."}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "Based on the information stored in the"}, {"end": "00:05:14", "start": "00:05:09", "text": "files of the domain, Errol was able to"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "give me a brief overview or history"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:14", "text": "lesson. This is what Errol told me that"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "the domain had observed about the"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "history of Earth. Okay, here we go. She"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "told me that the domain expeditionary"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "force first entered the Milky Way galaxy"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "very recently, only about 10,000 years"}, {"end": "00:05:35", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "ago. Their first action was to conquer"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "the home planets of the Old Empire."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:35", "text": "This is not the official name, but a"}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "nickname given to the conquered"}, {"end": "00:05:43", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "civilization by the domain forces, the"}, {"end": "00:05:45", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "old empire that served as the seat of"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:43", "text": "central government for this galaxy and"}, {"end": "00:05:50", "start": "00:05:45", "text": "other adjoining regions of space. These"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "planets are located in the star systems"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:50", "text": "in the tail of the big dipper"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "constellation. She did not mention which"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "stars exactly. About 1500 years later,"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "the domain began the installation bases"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "for their forces along the path of"}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "invasion, which led towards the center"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "of this galaxy and beyond. About 8,200"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "years ago, the domain forces set up a"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "base on Earth in the Himalaya mountains"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "near the border of modern Pakistan and"}, {"end": "00:06:20", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "Afghanistan. This was a base for a"}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "battalion of the domain expeditionary"}, {"end": "00:06:25", "start": "00:06:20", "text": "force which included about 3,000"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "members."}, {"end": "00:06:31", "start": "00:06:25", "text": "This is sounding a lot more like Star"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "Wars. And you know that the beauty about"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:31", "text": "Star Wars and the reason why I think it"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "gained so much popularity is because at"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "some level it resonates true with with"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "our own perspective of what the universe"}, {"end": "00:06:47", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "or what the galaxies might be like if"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "they were inhabited by, you know, an"}, {"end": "00:06:52", "start": "00:06:47", "text": "empire. And that's the one thing I will"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "say about this topic in particular,"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:52", "text": "especially when I hear about the"}, {"end": "00:06:57", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "Galactic Federation and things like"}, {"end": "00:06:59", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "that. Like I want nothing more, let's be"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:57", "text": "clear, than for all of this to be"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:06:59", "text": "real. I mean, if this is real, then it's"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "then to some extent Jedi Force and"}, {"end": "00:07:11", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "lightsabers are real, right? I mean,"}, {"end": "00:07:14", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "where are we going to draw the line"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:11", "text": "here? All right. They set up a base"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:14", "text": "under or inside the top of a mountain."}, {"end": "00:07:20", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "The mountain was drilled into and made"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "hollow to create an area large enough to"}, {"end": "00:07:25", "start": "00:07:20", "text": "house the ships and personnel of that"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "force. An electronic illusion of the"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:25", "text": "mountaintop was created to hide the base"}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "by projecting a false image from inside"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "the mountain against a force screen. The"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "ships could then enter and exit through"}, {"end": "00:07:41", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "the force screen yet remain unseen by"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "homo sapiens. This is interesting"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:41", "text": "because Lerta in the Lerta files which"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "we've read which was a reptilian who you"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "know they said they lived underground"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "they also had something similar wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "force screen necessarily unless we're"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "talking about the same thing but I think"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "the one that Lucerta described was"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "something that interfaced with human"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "beings perception of things. So they"}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "didn't actually have to distort anything"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "visually. They just had to distort the"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "impression of it in our minds. Shortly"}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "after they settled there, the base was"}, {"end": "00:08:15", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "surprised by an attack from a remnant of"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "the military forces of the old empire."}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:15", "text": "Unbeknouncsted to the domain, a hidden"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "underground base on Mars operated by the"}, {"end": "00:08:26", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "old empire had existed for a very long"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "time. The domain base was wiped out by"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:26", "text": "the military attack from the Mars base"}, {"end": "00:08:33", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "and the Isbes of the domain"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "expeditionary force were captured."}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:33", "text": "You can imagine that the domain was very"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "upset about losing such a large force of"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "officers and crew. So they sent other"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "crews to Earth to look for them. Those"}, {"end": "00:08:47", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "crews were also attacked. The captured"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "isbes from the domain forces were"}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:47", "text": "handled in the same fashion as all other"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "Isbes who have been sent to Earth. They"}, {"end": "00:08:56", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "were each given"}, {"end": "00:08:59", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "amnesia, had their memories replaced"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:56", "text": "with false pictures and hypnotic"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:59", "text": "commands, and sent to Earth to inhabit"}, {"end": "00:09:06", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "biological"}, {"end": "00:09:11", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "bodies. They are still a part of the"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:06", "text": "human population today. Whoa. Hold on a"}, {"end": "00:09:16", "start": "00:09:11", "text": "second. Wait, what? What are we talking"}, {"end": "00:09:19", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "about here? Are we saying"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:16", "text": "that some of these isbes are among us"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:19", "text": "and they don't know it?"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Whoa. After a very persistent and"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "extensive investigation into the loss of"}, {"end": "00:09:32", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "their crews, the domain discovered that"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "Old Empire had been operating a very"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:32", "text": "extensive and carefully hidden base of"}, {"end": "00:09:40", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "operations in this part of the galaxy"}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "for millions of years. No one knows"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:40", "text": "exactly how long. Eventually, the"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "spacecraft of the old Empire forces and"}, {"end": "00:09:51", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "the domain engaged each other in open"}, {"end": "00:09:53", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "combat in the space of the solar system."}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:51", "text": "I wonder if this could be the war that"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:53", "text": "Lerta was also referring to, but I feel"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "like that war was much older, but"}, {"end": "00:10:01", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "perhaps this is No, actually it was that"}, {"end": "00:10:03", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "because it was like the younger dest,"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:01", "text": "right? It was like 10,000 years ago or"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:03", "text": "something like that. According to Arrol,"}, {"end": "00:10:09", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "there was a running battle between the"}, {"end": "00:10:11", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "Old Empire forces and the domain until"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:09", "text": "about 1235"}, {"end": "00:10:16", "start": "00:10:11", "text": "AD when the domain forces finally"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "destroyed the last spacecraft of the old"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:16", "text": "empire. The domain expeditionary force"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "lost so many of its own ships in this"}, {"end": "00:10:26", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "area during that time. Also, about a"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "thousand years later, the Old Empire"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:26", "text": "base was discovered by accident in the"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "spring of 1914."}, {"end": "00:10:37", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "The discovery was made when the body of"}, {"end": "00:10:39", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "an arch duke of Austria was taken over"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:37", "text": "in quotes by an officer of the domain"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:39", "text": "expeditionary force. This officer who"}, {"end": "00:10:45", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "was stationed in the asteroid belt was"}, {"end": "00:10:47", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "sent to Earth on a routine mission to"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:45", "text": "gather reconnaissance. Okay, hold on."}, {"end": "00:10:54", "start": "00:10:47", "text": "So, they sent one of the Isby spirits"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "down to take over this Archduke of"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:54", "text": "Austria. Now, we got a footnote here."}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "I'm curious to know who this"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "archduke might be. France Ferdinand."}, {"end": "00:11:06", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "Whoa. Okay. He was an Archduke of"}, {"end": "00:11:08", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "Austria, Prince of Imperial of Austria,"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:06", "text": "and Prince Royal of Hungary in Bohemia."}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:08", "text": "But here we go. 1914, June 28th at 11:15"}, {"end": "00:11:15", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "a.m. France Ferdinand and his wife were"}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "killed in Sievo. The event known as the"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:15", "text": "assassination Sievo, which triggered"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "World War I. So, the purpose of the"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "takeover was to use the body as a"}, {"end": "00:11:26", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "disguise through which to infiltrate"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "human society in order to gather"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:26", "text": "information about current events on"}, {"end": "00:11:33", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "Earth. The officer as an isby having"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "greater power than the being inhabiting"}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:33", "text": "the body of the archduke simply pushed"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "the being out and took control of the"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "body. Whoa. Really treating them like"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "puppets. However, this officer did not"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "realize how much Hapsburg were hated by"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "feuding factions in the country. So, he"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "was caught off guard when the body of"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "the archduke was assassinated by a"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "Bosnian student. The officer or Isby was"}, {"end": "00:12:02", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "suddenly knocked out of the body when it"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "was shot by the assassin. Disoriented,"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:02", "text": "the Isby inadvertedly penetrated one of"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "the amnesia force screens and was"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "captured. Oh, okay. So, the Isby leaves"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "the body of the arch duke, penetrates"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "the force"}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "screen, gets"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "captured by I'm guessing the the Empire."}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "Eventually, the domain discovered that a"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "wide area of space is monitored by an"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "electronic force field which controls"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "all of the isbes in the end of the"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "galaxy in this end of the galaxy"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "including Earth. The electronic force"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "screen is designed to detect isbes and"}, {"end": "00:12:41", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "prevent them from leaving this"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "area."}, {"end": "00:12:48", "start": "00:12:41", "text": "Whoa. If an Isby attempts to penetrate"}, {"end": "00:12:51", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "the force screen, it captures them in a"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:48", "text": "kind of electronic net. The result is"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:51", "text": "that the captured Isby is subjected to a"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "very severe brainwashing treatment which"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "erases the memory of the Isby. This"}, {"end": "00:13:05", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "process uses a tremendous electrical"}, {"end": "00:13:07", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "shock just like Earth psychiatrists use"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:05", "text": "electric shock therapy to erase the"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:07", "text": "memory and personality of a patient and"}, {"end": "00:13:13", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "to make them more"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:15", "text": "cooperative. Whoa, that's crazy."}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "So like anyone who dies when their"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "spirit goes, they're zapped if they go"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "past this"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "barrier and then their memories are once"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "again erased and they have to go back."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "On Earth, this therapy use uses only a"}, {"end": "00:13:37", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "few hundred volts of electricity."}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "However, the electrical voltage used by"}, {"end": "00:13:43", "start": "00:13:37", "text": "the old empire operation against"}, {"end": "00:13:46", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "Isby is in the on the order of magnitude"}, {"end": "00:13:48", "start": "00:13:43", "text": "of billions of volts. This tremendous"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:46", "text": "shock completely wipes out all memory of"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:48", "text": "the Isby. The memory eraser is not just"}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "for one life or one body. It wipes out"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "all of the accumulated experiences of a"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "nearly infinite past as well as the"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "identity of the Isby. The shock is"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "intended to make it impossible for the"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "Isby to remember who they are, where"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "they came from, their knowledge or"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "skills, their memory of the past, and"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "ability to function as a spiritual"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "entity. They are overwhelmed into"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "becoming a mindless robotic non-"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "entity. Whoa. So, they're out here"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "creating"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "NPCs is what I'm gathering from this."}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "But only if you sort of go out of line."}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "only if you try to escape the matrix."}, {"end": "00:14:37", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "Which is wild"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "because if you have seen the recent"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:37", "text": "interview featuring Matt Brown, a"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "whistleblower, this interview was"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "conducted by George Knapp and Jeremy"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "Corbel on his show Weaponized. It was a"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "three-part series, very fascinating, but"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "this guy came across the documents now"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "known, you know, now presented to"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "Congress as Immaculate Constellation,"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "which we've covered. If you want to see"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "uh the entire readthrough of that"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "document, very fascinating. go and check"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "that out. But he does mention a few"}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "cryptic things. I think humanity to some"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "level is a resource for them. Possibly a"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "commodity,"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "possibly form of entertainment,"}, {"end": "00:15:21", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "possibly medical"}, {"end": "00:15:25", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "related. We live in the"}, {"end": "00:15:28", "start": "00:15:21", "text": "matrix. You are not free."}, {"end": "00:15:32", "start": "00:15:25", "text": "And this reality has far more to it than"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:28", "text": "you have been allowed to believe."}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:32", "text": "But that matrix comment really gels with"}, {"end": "00:15:41", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "what we're talking about here. It"}, {"end": "00:15:43", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "also really coaleses with, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:41", "text": "container"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:43", "text": "idea. I don't like the sound of this."}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "All right, let's keep reading. After the"}, {"end": "00:15:52", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "shock, a series of post-hypnotic"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "suggestions are are used to install"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:52", "text": "false memories and a false time"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "orientation in each isby. This includes"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "the command to return to the base after"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "the body dies so that the same kind of"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "shock and hypnosis can be done again and"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "again again"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "forever. The hypnotic command also tells"}, {"end": "00:16:15", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "the patient to forget to remember."}, {"end": "00:16:17", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "What the domain learned from the"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:15", "text": "experience of this officer is that the"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:17", "text": "old empire has been using Earth as a"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "prison planet for a very long time."}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "Exactly how long is unknown, perhaps"}, {"end": "00:16:29", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "millions of"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "years."}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:29", "text": "Whoa. What's interesting about this"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "theory, because I've heard this theory"}, {"end": "00:16:37", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "before, but it's almost like the sort of"}, {"end": "00:16:40", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "karmic circle that we're trying to"}, {"end": "00:16:43", "start": "00:16:37", "text": "escape, but we keep having to sort of"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:40", "text": "relive something. Um, I've also"}, {"end": "00:16:48", "start": "00:16:43", "text": "heard people remote viewers I think have"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "looked into this as well and have found"}, {"end": "00:16:53", "start": "00:16:48", "text": "something some technology suppressing"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "the soul somehow. I don't even know,"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:53", "text": "right? It's very fringe stuff, but I've"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "heard like when you pass and you see the"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "light, that's actually like a whole"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "that's a ruse, right? That's like don't"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "go towards it cuz that's maybe what this"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "is."}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "Whoa. It's crazy to think about, dude."}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "That's so dark. You know, one thing I"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "always think about"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "is what is so"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "dark that when somebody finds out what"}, {"end": "00:17:25", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "the secret of the phenomenon"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "is,"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:25", "text": "they refuse to share it with others."}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "What is that? How can it be so bad?"}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "Because if it's"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "good, then there's no reason to keep it"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "secret, right? And I think Matt Brown"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "talks about that as well. There's no"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "reason to keep it secret if it's"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "good. So, okay, let's say it is"}, {"end": "00:17:51", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "bad. It's got to be pretty"}, {"end": "00:17:53", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "bad in order to keep it like that much"}, {"end": "00:17:55", "start": "00:17:51", "text": "of a secret because I think pe the"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:53", "text": "public could handle aliens. Complete"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:55", "text": "speculation and they could be wrong, you"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "know, but I'm saying as a thought"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "experiment, what would that be? And I"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "think the scariest thing that I could"}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "possibly imagine is when you're free of"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "the physical body and you go"}, {"end": "00:18:16", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "beyond and you think, \"Oh, this is, you"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "know, I leave the"}, {"end": "00:18:23", "start": "00:18:16", "text": "matrix that that's still"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "them.\" I don't know if I like"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:23", "text": "that. Whoa. Yeah, that would be enough"}, {"end": "00:18:31", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "for uh to drive people mad, but hey,"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "what are you gonna do?"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:31", "text": "If that is the case, I mean whatever,"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "you know, what do you want to do? So"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "when the body of an isby dies, they"}, {"end": "00:18:42", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "depart from the body. They are detected"}, {"end": "00:18:44", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "by the force screen. They are captured"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:42", "text": "and ordered by hypnotic command to"}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:44", "text": "return to the light. Yep, there you go."}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "The idea of heaven and the afterlife are"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "part of the hypnotic suggestion, a part"}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "of the treachery that makes the whole"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "mechanism work."}, {"end": "00:19:03", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "Whoa, crazy."}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "But also, if you give me heaven or"}, {"end": "00:19:07", "start": "00:19:03", "text": "afterlife, be it real or fake. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "if I don't know the difference, you"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:07", "text": "know, ignorance is bliss, but that would"}, {"end": "00:19:14", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "suck. After the Isby has been shocked"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "and hypnotized to erase the memory of"}, {"end": "00:19:19", "start": "00:19:14", "text": "the life they just lived, the Isby is"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "immediately commanded hypnotically to"}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:19", "text": "report back to Earth as though they were"}, {"end": "00:19:26", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "on a secret mission to inhabit a new"}, {"end": "00:19:28", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "body. Each is told that they have a"}, {"end": "00:19:30", "start": "00:19:26", "text": "special purpose for being on Earth. But"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:28", "text": "of course, there is no purpose for being"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:30", "text": "in a prison. At least not for the"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "prisoner. Whoa. I don't like this. I"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "don't I don't like if this is I don't"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "like this at all. If this is what's"}, {"end": "00:19:47", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "going on, this is not cool. Don't do"}, {"end": "00:19:51", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "that, old"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:47", "text": "empire. Quit it. Any undesirable isbes"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:51", "text": "who are sentenced to Earth were"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "classified as untouchable by the Old"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "Empire. This included anyone that the"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "Old Empire judged to be criminals who"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "are too vicious to be reformed or"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "subdued as well as other criminals such"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "as sexual perverts or beings unwilling"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "to do any productive"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "work. So a literal prison planet like"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "they're sending prisoners here. An"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "untouchable classification of isbes also"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "includes a wide variety of political"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "prisoners. This includes isbes who are"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "considered to be non-compliant"}, {"end": "00:20:25", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "freethinkers or revolutionaries who make"}, {"end": "00:20:28", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "trouble for the governments of the"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:25", "text": "various planets of the old empire. Of"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:28", "text": "course, anyone with a previous military"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "record against the old empire is also"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "shipped off to Earth. A list of"}, {"end": "00:20:41", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "untouchables include artists, painters,"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "singers, musicians, writers, actors, and"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:41", "text": "performers of every kind. For this"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "reason, Earth has more artists per"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "capita than any other planet in the Old"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "Empire. Now, that's something I can get"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "behind, folks. Part of this is like nice"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "and neatly packaged, I will say, as"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "well, you know, for the reader, as in"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "we're like, \"Yeah, but we can't all be"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "prisoners.\" And then like the next"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "sentence is like, \"No, but there's also"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "really cool artists and really freeth"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "thinkers and like and we're like, \"Yeah,"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "that's me.\" Everybody's like, \"That's"}, {"end": "00:21:12", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "me. That's me.\" You know? So it is I do"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "understand you know the fiction side of"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:12", "text": "it but again I will say for someone who"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "you know I think Lawrence R Spencer is a"}, {"end": "00:21:24", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "fiction obviously a non-fiction or"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "science fiction writer but the depth of"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:24", "text": "lore here I mean it's really really deep"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "and I don't want to call you know"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "Lawrence an amateur writer because I"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "don't think he's an amateur writer but I"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "mean this is so deep it's easy to chalk"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "it up to oh this guy just made it up."}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "But kudos if you made it up because this"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "is a really"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "well-rounded hypothetical universe that"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "this person's created. And I think that"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "deserves merit in and of itself."}, {"end": "00:21:56", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "Untouchables also include intellectuals,"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "inventors, and geniuses in almost every"}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:56", "text": "field. Since everything the old empire"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "considers valuable has long since been"}, {"end": "00:22:04", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "invented or created over the last few"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "trillion years, they have no further use"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:04", "text": "for such beings. This includes skilled"}, {"end": "00:22:13", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "managers also which are not needed in a"}, {"end": "00:22:15", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "society of obedient robotic citizens."}, {"end": "00:22:17", "start": "00:22:13", "text": "We're trapped with all the Kairens here"}, {"end": "00:22:19", "start": "00:22:15", "text": "folks. Anyone who is not willing or able"}, {"end": "00:22:21", "start": "00:22:17", "text": "to submit to mindless economic,"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:19", "text": "political, and religious servitude as a"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:21", "text": "taxpaying worker in the class system of"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "the old empire are untouchable and"}, {"end": "00:22:30", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "sentenced to receive memory wipeout and"}, {"end": "00:22:32", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "permanent imprisonment on Earth."}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:30", "text": "The net result is that the Isby is"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:32", "text": "unable to escape because they can't"}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "remember who they are, where they came"}, {"end": "00:22:40", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "from, or where they are. They've been"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "hypnotized to think they're someone,"}, {"end": "00:22:47", "start": "00:22:40", "text": "something, sometime, and somewhere other"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "than where they really are. The domain"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:47", "text": "officer, who is assassinated while in"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "the body of Archduke of Austria, was"}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "likewise captured by the old empire"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "force. Because this particular officer"}, {"end": "00:23:00", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "was a high-powered Isby compared to"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "most, he was taken away to a secret old"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:00", "text": "empire base under the surface of the"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "planet Mars. They put him into a special"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "electronic prison cell and held him"}, {"end": "00:23:12", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "there. Fortunately, this domain officer"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "was able to escape from the underground"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:12", "text": "base after 27 years in captivity. When"}, {"end": "00:23:20", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "he escaped from the old Empire base, he"}, {"end": "00:23:22", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "returned immediately to his own base in"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:20", "text": "the asteroid belt. His commanding"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:22", "text": "officer ordered that a battle cruiser be"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "dispatched to the coordinates of the"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "base provided by his officer and to"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "destroy that base completely. This old"}, {"end": "00:23:35", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "Empire base was located a few hundred"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "miles north of the equator on Mars in"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:35", "text": "the Sidonia"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "region. It is interesting just um right"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "here because this is all just notes."}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "This is all"}, {"end": "00:23:51", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "apparently Matilda's translation of the"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "being's telepathic communications to"}, {"end": "00:23:57", "start": "00:23:51", "text": "her. Pretty pretty intense and extensive"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "and like rather detailed, I would say,"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:57", "text": "like almost a little too detailed. You"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "know what I mean? This is turning slowly"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "into just like just a book and and less"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "of a"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "transcript. You feel me on that? Maybe"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "I'm just looking for a reason for this"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "not to be true at this point. You know,"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "I might I might be"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "But uh still fascinating man. Although"}, {"end": "00:24:19", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "the military base of the old empire was"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "destroyed, unfortunately most of the"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:19", "text": "vast machinery of the ISB force screens,"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "the electroshock amnesia hypnosis"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "machinery continues to function in other"}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "discovered locations right up to the"}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "present moment. The main base or control"}, {"end": "00:24:35", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "center for this mind control prison"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "operation has never been"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:35", "text": "found. So the influences of this base or"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "bases are still in effect."}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "The domain has observed that since the"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "old empire space forces were destroyed,"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "there is no one left to actively prevent"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "the planetary systems from bringing"}, {"end": "00:24:55", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "their own untouchable isbes to Earth"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "from all over this galaxy and from other"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:55", "text": "galaxies nearby. Therefore, Earth has"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "become a universal dumping ground for"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "this entire region of space. Now, this"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "is ringing true. This is kind of hitting"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "home."}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "This in part explains the very unusual"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "mix of races, cultures, languages, moral"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "codes, religious and political"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "influences among the ISBY population on"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "Earth. The number and variety of"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "heterogeneous societies on Earth are"}, {"end": "00:25:27", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "extremely unusual on a normal planet."}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "Most sun type 12 class 7 planets are"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:27", "text": "inhabited by only one humanoid body type"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "or race, if any."}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "In addition, most of the ancient"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "civilizations of Earth and many of the"}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "events of Earth have been heavily"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "influenced by the hidden hypnotic"}, {"end": "00:25:46", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "operation of the Old Empire base. So"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "far, no one has figured out exactly"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:46", "text": "where and how this operation is run or"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "by whom because it is so heavily"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "protected by screens and traps."}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "Furthermore, there's been no operation"}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:59", "text": "undertaken to seek out, discover, and"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "destroy the vast and ancient networks of"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "electronics machinery that create the"}, {"end": "00:26:12", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "ISB force screens at this end of the"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "galaxy. Until this has been done, we are"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:12", "text": "not able to prevent or interrupt the"}, {"end": "00:26:19", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "electric shock operation, hypnosis, and"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "remote thought control of the old Empire"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:19", "text": "prison planet. Of course, all of the"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "crew members of the domain expeditionary"}, {"end": "00:26:29", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "force now remain aware of this phenomena"}, {"end": "00:26:31", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "at all times while operating in this"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:29", "text": "solar system space so as to prevent"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:31", "text": "detection and the capture by old empire"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "traps. Huh? I don't know how y'all are"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "feeling about this, but I'm feeling a"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "little I don't like it. You know what I"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "mean? But at the same time, it feels"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "like there is hope in this universe,"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "right? Perhaps this uh secret war going"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "on between governments or ungovernmented"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "factions of special forces. Perhaps"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "what's happening right now is is they're"}, {"end": "00:27:06", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "trying to get a hold of this base and"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "destroy it. You know, that would be a"}, {"end": "00:27:11", "start": "00:27:06", "text": "cool thing. I would love for that to be"}, {"end": "00:27:13", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "the secret. You know, this whole time"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:11", "text": "we're thinking, \"No, the US government"}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:13", "text": "is completely nefarious and they are"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "hiding things from us for our"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "detriment.\" when in reality they're"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "actually fighting this secret war trying"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "to free our souls. That would be such a"}, {"end": "00:27:29", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "cool plot for a movie. Oh my"}, {"end": "00:27:33", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "god. We"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:29", "text": "proceed to the chunkier half of this"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:33", "text": "read through. Chapter 8, a lesson in"}, {"end": "00:27:40", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "recent"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "history. Matilda's personal note and the"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:40", "text": "only little note that exists. This"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:43", "text": "interview taught me a history lesson I"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "will never read in any textbook written"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "on Earth. The domain has a much"}, {"end": "00:27:53", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "different view of events than we do."}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "I've been reading a few prison planet"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:53", "text": "comments before this video and expected"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "to see it in this read through, but uh"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "even knowing what I was getting into is"}, {"end": "00:28:05", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "still kind of upsetting. The domain"}, {"end": "00:28:07", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "expeditionary force has observed a"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:05", "text": "resurgence in science and culture of the"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:07", "text": "western world since 1150 AD when the"}, {"end": "00:28:15", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "remaining remnants of the space fleet of"}, {"end": "00:28:17", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "the old empire in this solar system were"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:15", "text": "destroyed. The influence of the remote"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:17", "text": "control hypnosis operation diminished"}, {"end": "00:28:25", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "slightly after that time but still"}, {"end": "00:28:27", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "remains largely in force."}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:25", "text": "Apparently, a small amount of damage was"}, {"end": "00:28:31", "start": "00:28:27", "text": "done to the Old Empire remote mind"}, {"end": "00:28:33", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "control operation which resulted in a"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:31", "text": "small decrease in the power of this"}, {"end": "00:28:38", "start": "00:28:33", "text": "mechanism. As a result, some memory of"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "technologies that is bees already knew"}, {"end": "00:28:43", "start": "00:28:38", "text": "before they came to Earth started to be"}, {"end": "00:28:45", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "remembered. Thereafter, the oppression"}, {"end": "00:28:48", "start": "00:28:43", "text": "of knowledge that is called the dark"}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:45", "text": "ages in Europe began to diminish after"}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:48", "text": "that time. Whoa. So they're saying the"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "dark ages was a direct result of this"}, {"end": "00:29:01", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "hypnotic sort of suppression tool that"}, {"end": "00:29:04", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "the old empire had implemented. You know"}, {"end": "00:29:07", "start": "00:29:01", "text": "the one thing I find interesting is that"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:04", "text": "they say they said prior that the"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:07", "text": "memories the shock was so strong that it"}, {"end": "00:29:15", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "would completely erase and obliterate"}, {"end": "00:29:17", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "people's memory of their almost infinite"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:15", "text": "existence. And now we take down a few of"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:17", "text": "these things and suddenly oh memories"}, {"end": "00:29:24", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "coming back. Is it is it this this"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "suppression system that's keeping the"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:24", "text": "memories from coming back or is it this"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "electronic shock that's completely"}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "erasing them? Or is it a mix of both? I"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "don't know. Since then, the knowledge of"}, {"end": "00:29:35", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "the basic laws of physics and"}, {"end": "00:29:37", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "electricity have revolutionized Earth"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:35", "text": "culture virtually overnight. The ability"}, {"end": "00:29:42", "start": "00:29:37", "text": "to remember technology by many of the"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "geniuses in the Isby population of Earth"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:42", "text": "was partially restored when not so"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "actively suppressed as it was before"}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "1150. Sir Isaac Newton is one of the"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "best examples of this. In only a few"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "decades, he single-handedly reinvented"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "several major and fundamental scientific"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "and mathematical disciplines. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:30:03", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "Nicola Tesla would be a great example of"}, {"end": "00:30:06", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "that. I think, you know, this guy was"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:03", "text": "just literally getting information from"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:06", "text": "somewhere else. Maybe he was just an"}, {"end": "00:30:13", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "officer Isby, you know, doing his job."}, {"end": "00:30:15", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "An officer of the domain, I should say."}, {"end": "00:30:17", "start": "00:30:13", "text": "The men who remembered these sciences"}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:15", "text": "already knew them before they were sent"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:17", "text": "to Earth. Ordinarily, no one would ever"}, {"end": "00:30:23", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "observe or discover as much about"}, {"end": "00:30:25", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "science and mathematics in a single"}, {"end": "00:30:27", "start": "00:30:23", "text": "lifetime, or even in a few hundred"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:25", "text": "lifetimes. These subjects have taken"}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:27", "text": "civilizations billions and billions of"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "years to"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "create. Isbes on Earth have only just"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "begun to remember small fragments of all"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "the technologies that exist throughout"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "the universe. Theoretically, if the"}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "amnesia mechanisms being used against"}, {"end": "00:30:47", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "Earth could be broken entirely, isbes"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "would regain all of their"}, {"end": "00:30:52", "start": "00:30:47", "text": "memory. See, that seems to be such like"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "a happy ending like type deal. It's"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:52", "text": "like, what is it, man? Are you erasing"}, {"end": "00:30:58", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "all of her memory or is it this thing"}, {"end": "00:31:01", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "suppressing them and destroying them"}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:30:58", "text": "would free us all? This it sounds too"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:01", "text": "much like a Hollywood plot at this"}, {"end": "00:31:08", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "point. I'm not trying to be a hater but"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "again I don't quite like the idea of"}, {"end": "00:31:12", "start": "00:31:08", "text": "this. So that's why I'm all right just I"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "like the idea of this old empire. Okay."}, {"end": "00:31:17", "start": "00:31:12", "text": "Unfortunately similar advances have not"}, {"end": "00:31:19", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "been seen in the humanities as the isbes"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:17", "text": "of earth continue to behave very badly"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:19", "text": "towards each other. This behavior,"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "however, is heavily influenced by the"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "hypnotic commands given to each isby"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "between lifetimes. And the very unusual"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "combination of inmates on Earth,"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "criminals, perverts, artists,"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "revolutionaries, and geniuses, is the"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "cause of a very restive and tumultuous"}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "environment. The purpose of the prison"}, {"end": "00:31:43", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "planet is to keep Isbes on Earth"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "forever. Promoting ignorance,"}, {"end": "00:31:48", "start": "00:31:43", "text": "superstition, and war between isbes"}, {"end": "00:31:51", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "helps to keep the prison population"}, {"end": "00:31:52", "start": "00:31:48", "text": "crippled and trapped behind the wall of"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:51", "text": "electronic force"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:52", "text": "screens. Isbes have been dumped on Earth"}, {"end": "00:32:00", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "from all over the galaxy, adjoining"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "galaxies, and from planetary systems all"}, {"end": "00:32:05", "start": "00:32:00", "text": "over the old empire like Sirius,"}, {"end": "00:32:07", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "Alderbron, the Plleades, Orion,"}, {"end": "00:32:10", "start": "00:32:05", "text": "Draconus, and countless others."}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:07", "text": "There are Isbes on Earth from unnamed"}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:10", "text": "races, civilizations, cultural"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "backgrounds, and planetary environments."}, {"end": "00:32:18", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "Each of the various ISBY populations"}, {"end": "00:32:21", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "have their own languages, belief"}, {"end": "00:32:23", "start": "00:32:18", "text": "systems, moral values, religious"}, {"end": "00:32:27", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "beliefs, training, and unknown and"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:23", "text": "untold histories. These isbes are mixed"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:27", "text": "together with earlier inhabitants of"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "Earth who came from another star system"}, {"end": "00:32:36", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "more than 400,000 years ago to establish"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "the civilizations of Atlanta and"}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:36", "text": "Laamria. Those civilizations vanished"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "beneath the tidal waves caused by the"}, {"end": "00:32:45", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "planetary polar shift many thousands of"}, {"end": "00:32:48", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "years before the current prison"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:45", "text": "population started to arrive."}, {"end": "00:32:52", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "Apparently the isbes from those star"}, {"end": "00:32:54", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "systems were the source of the original"}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:52", "text": "oriental races of Earth beginning in"}, {"end": "00:33:00", "start": "00:32:54", "text": "Australia. Okay. So if we recall Lerta,"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "she said that"}, {"end": "00:33:04", "start": "00:33:00", "text": "uh this title event that happened was"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "younger dice. What was that like 12,000"}, {"end": "00:33:11", "start": "00:33:04", "text": "to 15,000 years ago? What Lerta said"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "that that was actually the result of a"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:11", "text": "fight between two races, right? the"}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "Elohim and the the other humanoid"}, {"end": "00:33:27", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "beings or the humanoid and the reptilian"}, {"end": "00:33:29", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "beings. Anyways, there was a war and"}, {"end": "00:33:31", "start": "00:33:27", "text": "they kind of wiped everything out and"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:29", "text": "those waves weren't caused by a meteor"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:31", "text": "or anything. They were caused, you know,"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "by bombs essentially."}, {"end": "00:33:40", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "On the other hand, the civilizations set"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "up on Earth by the Old Empire prison"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:40", "text": "system were very different from the"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "civilization of the Old Empire itself,"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "which is an electronic space opera,"}, {"end": "00:33:50", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "atomicpowered conglomeration of earlier"}, {"end": "00:33:53", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "civilizations that were conquered with"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:50", "text": "nuclear weapons and colonized by Isbes"}, {"end": "00:33:58", "start": "00:33:53", "text": "from another galaxy. The bureaucracy"}, {"end": "00:34:00", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "that controlled the former Old Empire"}, {"end": "00:34:04", "start": "00:33:58", "text": "was from an ancient space opera society"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:00", "text": "run by a totalitarian confederation of"}, {"end": "00:34:08", "start": "00:34:04", "text": "planetary"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "governments regulated by a brutal"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:08", "text": "social, economic, and political"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "hierarchy with a royal monarch as its"}, {"end": "00:34:18", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "figurehead. This sounds reptilian. This"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "type of government emerges with"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:18", "text": "regularity on planets where the citizens"}, {"end": "00:34:25", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "abandon personal responsibility for"}, {"end": "00:34:26", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "autonomous self-regulation. They"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:25", "text": "frequently lose their freedom to"}, {"end": "00:34:31", "start": "00:34:26", "text": "demented Isbes who suffer from an"}, {"end": "00:34:33", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "overwhelming paranoia that every other"}, {"end": "00:34:35", "start": "00:34:31", "text": "Isby is their enemy who must be"}, {"end": "00:34:38", "start": "00:34:33", "text": "controlled or destroyed. Their closest"}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:35", "text": "friends and allies whom they espouse to"}, {"end": "00:34:42", "start": "00:34:38", "text": "love and cherish are literally loved to"}, {"end": "00:34:46", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "death by"}, {"end": "00:34:47", "start": "00:34:42", "text": "them. This is interesting. the uh this"}, {"end": "00:34:49", "start": "00:34:46", "text": "type of government. It says this type of"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:47", "text": "government government emerges with"}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:49", "text": "regularity on planets where citizens"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "abandon personal responsibility for"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "autonomous"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:56", "text": "self-regulation. Sounds a lot like AI."}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "It does sound like AI. Like what if AI"}, {"end": "00:35:07", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "happened and then these guys come along"}, {"end": "00:35:08", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "cuz they're like, \"Oh, you guys are just"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:07", "text": "going to give up. You're going to give"}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:08", "text": "your souls to AI. We'll just take it"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "from here.\" Because such isbes exist,"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "the domain has learned that freedom must"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "be won and maintained through eternal"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "vigilance and the ability to use"}, {"end": "00:35:23", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "defensive force to maintain it. As a"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "result, the domain has already conquered"}, {"end": "00:35:28", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "the governing planet of the old empire."}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "Civilization of the domain, although"}, {"end": "00:35:32", "start": "00:35:28", "text": "considerably younger and smaller in"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "size, is already more powerful, better"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:32", "text": "organized, and united by egalitarian"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "espred spirit of body never known in the"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "history of the old empire. So"}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "togetherness defeats, you know, this"}, {"end": "00:35:48", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "wararmongering mentality. The recently"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "desoiled German totalitarian state on"}, {"end": "00:35:54", "start": "00:35:48", "text": "Earth was similar to the old empire, but"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "not nearly as brutal. Wo, really? and"}, {"end": "00:35:58", "start": "00:35:54", "text": "about 10,000 times less powerful. Many"}, {"end": "00:36:00", "start": "00:35:56", "text": "of the Isbes on Earth are here because"}, {"end": "00:36:03", "start": "00:35:58", "text": "they are violently opposed to"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:00", "text": "totalitarian government or because they"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:03", "text": "were so psychotically vicious that they"}, {"end": "00:36:12", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "could not be controlled by old empire"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "government. Whoa. So that would make"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:12", "text": "for a planet filled with turmoil and and"}, {"end": "00:36:20", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "and conflict, right? If you send people"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "here who are literally against"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:20", "text": "totalitarian rule, but also people who"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "are psychotic and power- hungry, right?"}, {"end": "00:36:33", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "That would"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "create consistent constant"}, {"end": "00:36:40", "start": "00:36:33", "text": "conflict, which would essentially"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "perpetuate and propel this idea of a"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:40", "text": "prison planet. We'd just be fighting"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "each other blind to the fact that"}, {"end": "00:36:47", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "there's a greater fight to be fought."}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "It's a good"}, {"end": "00:36:52", "start": "00:36:47", "text": "plan. It's a good plan. Consequently,"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "the population of Earth is"}, {"end": "00:36:57", "start": "00:36:52", "text": "disproportionately comprised of a very"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "high percentage of such beings. The"}, {"end": "00:37:01", "start": "00:36:57", "text": "conflicting cultural and ethical moral"}, {"end": "00:37:04", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "codes of the isbes on Earth is unusual"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:01", "text": "in the extreme. The domain conquest of"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:04", "text": "the central old empire planets was"}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "fought with electronic cannon. The"}, {"end": "00:37:12", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "citizens of the old planets forming the"}, {"end": "00:37:16", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "core of government for the old empire"}, {"end": "00:37:20", "start": "00:37:12", "text": "are filthy, degraded, slave society of"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "mindless taxpaying workers who practice"}, {"end": "00:37:25", "start": "00:37:20", "text": "cannibalism. Violent automotive"}, {"end": "00:37:29", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "racetracks and bloody Roman circus type"}, {"end": "00:37:32", "start": "00:37:25", "text": "entertainments are their only"}, {"end": "00:37:34", "start": "00:37:29", "text": "amusements. Whoa. Regardless of any"}, {"end": "00:37:36", "start": "00:37:32", "text": "reasonable justification we may have had"}, {"end": "00:37:39", "start": "00:37:34", "text": "for using atomic weapons to vanquish the"}, {"end": "00:37:41", "start": "00:37:36", "text": "planets of the old empire, the domain is"}, {"end": "00:37:43", "start": "00:37:39", "text": "careful not to ruin the resources of"}, {"end": "00:37:45", "start": "00:37:41", "text": "those planets by using weapons of crude"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:43", "text": "radioactive"}, {"end": "00:37:50", "start": "00:37:45", "text": "force. The current US civilization is"}, {"end": "00:37:52", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "beginning to mimic some of the trappings"}, {"end": "00:37:55", "start": "00:37:50", "text": "of that civilization, especially in the"}, {"end": "00:37:58", "start": "00:37:52", "text": "design of airplanes, automobiles, ships,"}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:55", "text": "trains, and telephones. Likewise,"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:58", "text": "buildings in the cities of Earth are"}, {"end": "00:38:05", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "thought to be modern or futuristic if"}, {"end": "00:38:07", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "their design resembles the architecture"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:05", "text": "of the Old"}, {"end": "00:38:11", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "Empire. The government of the Old Empire"}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "before being supplanted by the domain"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "was comprised of beings who possessed a"}, {"end": "00:38:18", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "very craven intelligence, very much like"}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "the Axis powers during your recent world"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:18", "text": "war. Those beings manifested precisely"}, {"end": "00:38:25", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "the same behavior as the galactic"}, {"end": "00:38:28", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "government that exiled them to eternal"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:25", "text": "imprisonment on Earth. They were a"}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:28", "text": "gruesome reminder of the ageless maxim"}, {"end": "00:38:34", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "that a Nisby will often manifest the"}, {"end": "00:38:38", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "treatment they have received from"}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:34", "text": "others. Kindness fosters kindness."}, {"end": "00:38:44", "start": "00:38:38", "text": "Cruelty begets cruelty. One must be able"}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "and willing to use force tempered with"}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:44", "text": "intelligence to prevent harm to the"}, {"end": "00:38:50", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "innocent."}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "However, extraordinary understanding,"}, {"end": "00:38:54", "start": "00:38:50", "text": "self-discipline, and courage are"}, {"end": "00:38:56", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "required to effectively prevent"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:54", "text": "brutality without being overwhelmed by"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:56", "text": "the malice that motivated the brutality."}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "Only a demonic self-serving government"}, {"end": "00:39:07", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "would employ a logic or science to"}, {"end": "00:39:09", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "conceive that an ultimate solution to"}, {"end": "00:39:11", "start": "00:39:07", "text": "any problem is to murder and permanently"}, {"end": "00:39:14", "start": "00:39:09", "text": "erase the memory of every artist,"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "genius, skilled manager, and inventor"}, {"end": "00:39:18", "start": "00:39:14", "text": "and cast them into a planetary prison"}, {"end": "00:39:21", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "together with political opponents,"}, {"end": "00:39:24", "start": "00:39:18", "text": "killers, thieves, perverts, and disabled"}, {"end": "00:39:26", "start": "00:39:21", "text": "beings of an entire galaxy. We out here,"}, {"end": "00:39:30", "start": "00:39:24", "text": "folks."}, {"end": "00:39:33", "start": "00:39:26", "text": "I mean, we out here, dude. It ain't"}, {"end": "00:39:37", "start": "00:39:30", "text": "easy, you know, being"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:33", "text": "a Sun type 12 class 7 civilization. You"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:37", "text": "know, once the isbes expelled from the"}, {"end": "00:39:45", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "old empire arrived on Earth, they were"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "given amnesia and hypnotically tricked"}, {"end": "00:39:48", "start": "00:39:45", "text": "into thinking that something else had"}, {"end": "00:39:50", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "happened to them. The next step was to"}, {"end": "00:39:52", "start": "00:39:48", "text": "implant the Isbes into biological bodies"}, {"end": "00:39:55", "start": "00:39:50", "text": "on Earth. The bodies became the human"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:52", "text": "populations of false civilizations which"}, {"end": "00:39:59", "start": "00:39:55", "text": "were designed and installed in the minds"}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "of isbes to look completely unlike the"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:39:59", "text": "old empire. All of the isbes of India,"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, and"}, {"end": "00:40:08", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "medieval Europe were guided to pattern"}, {"end": "00:40:11", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "and build the cultural elements of these"}, {"end": "00:40:13", "start": "00:40:08", "text": "societies based on standard patterns"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:11", "text": "developed by the isbes of many earlier"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:13", "text": "similar civilizations on Sunype 12 class"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "7 planets that have existed for"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "trillions of years throughout the"}, {"end": "00:40:29", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "universe. In the earliest times, Isbes"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "sent to prison Earth lived in India."}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:29", "text": "They gradually spread into Mesopotamia,"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "Egypt, Meso America, Archa, Greece,"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "Rome, medieval Europe, and to the new"}, {"end": "00:40:43", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "world. They were hypnotically commanded"}, {"end": "00:40:45", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "to follow the pattern of a given"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:43", "text": "civilization by the old empire prison"}, {"end": "00:40:49", "start": "00:40:45", "text": "operators. This is an effective"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "mechanism to disguise the actual time"}, {"end": "00:40:54", "start": "00:40:49", "text": "and location from the Isbes imprisoned"}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "on Earth. The language, costumes, and"}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:54", "text": "culture of each false civilization are"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "intended to reinforce amnesia because"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "they do not remind the isbes on Earth of"}, {"end": "00:41:05", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "the original old empire planets from"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "which they were"}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:05", "text": "deported. On the very far back track of"}, {"end": "00:41:12", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "time, these types of civilizations"}, {"end": "00:41:14", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "tended to repeat themselves over and"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:12", "text": "over because the isbes who created them"}, {"end": "00:41:20", "start": "00:41:14", "text": "become familiar with certain patterns"}, {"end": "00:41:22", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "and styles and stayed with them."}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:20", "text": "It is a lot of work to invent an entire"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:22", "text": "civilization complete with culture and"}, {"end": "00:41:28", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "architecture, language, customs,"}, {"end": "00:41:30", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "mathematics, moral values, and so forth."}, {"end": "00:41:35", "start": "00:41:28", "text": "It is much easier to replicate a copy"}, {"end": "00:41:35", "start": "00:41:30", "text": "based on a familiar and successful"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:35", "text": "pattern. A sun type 12 class 7 planet is"}, {"end": "00:41:44", "start": "00:41:39", "text": "the designation given to a planet"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "inhabited by carbon oxygen-based life"}, {"end": "00:41:49", "start": "00:41:44", "text": "forms. The class of the planet is based"}, {"end": "00:41:52", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "on the size and radiation intensity of"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:49", "text": "the star, the distance of the planetary"}, {"end": "00:41:56", "start": "00:41:52", "text": "orbit from the star and the size,"}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "density, gravity or chemical composition"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:56", "text": "of the planet. Likewise, flora and fauna"}, {"end": "00:42:04", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "are designated and identified according"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "to the star type and class of planet"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:04", "text": "they"}, {"end": "00:42:11", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "inhabit. Got that? So, what are the"}, {"end": "00:42:14", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "other ones? Do we get"}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:11", "text": "to we get to find out what our brother"}, {"end": "00:42:19", "start": "00:42:14", "text": "and sister planets"}, {"end": "00:42:21", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "are? On the average, the percentage of"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:19", "text": "planets in the physical universe with a"}, {"end": "00:42:26", "start": "00:42:21", "text": "breathable atmosphere is relatively"}, {"end": "00:42:29", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "small. Most planets do not have an"}, {"end": "00:42:32", "start": "00:42:26", "text": "atmosphere upon which life forms feed as"}, {"end": "00:42:35", "start": "00:42:29", "text": "on earth where the chemical compositions"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:32", "text": "of the atmosphere provides nutrition to"}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "plants and other"}, {"end": "00:42:41", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "organisms which in turn support other"}, {"end": "00:42:44", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "life forms. When the domain force"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:41", "text": "brought the vetic hymns to the Himalaya"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:44", "text": "regions about 8,200 years ago, some"}, {"end": "00:42:53", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "human societies already existed. The"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "Aryan people invaded and conquered India"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:53", "text": "bringing the Vic hymns to the area. Can"}, {"end": "00:43:00", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "I just I'm I'm a little ignorant to"}, {"end": "00:43:01", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "this. I don't know everything folks."}, {"end": "00:43:03", "start": "00:43:00", "text": "That's part of this journey is that we"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:43:01", "text": "get to figure it out. I'm sure there's"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:03", "text": "some of you out there that are also a"}, {"end": "00:43:08", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "little lost here. What are the Vic"}, {"end": "00:43:11", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "hymns? The Vadic hymns are a collection"}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "of ancient religious texts that form the"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:11", "text": "core of the vadas, the oldest scriptures"}, {"end": "00:43:21", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "of Hinduism composed in Sanskrit between"}, {"end": "00:43:22", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "approximately 1500 and 500 B.CE. These"}, {"end": "00:43:25", "start": "00:43:21", "text": "hymns are primarily found in the"}, {"end": "00:43:28", "start": "00:43:22", "text": "Rigveda, the oldest of the four"}, {"end": "00:43:30", "start": "00:43:25", "text": "vadas. They consist of praises, prayers"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:28", "text": "and mantras dedicated to various deities"}, {"end": "00:43:36", "start": "00:43:30", "text": "like Agni, the fire god, Indra, the king"}, {"end": "00:43:38", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "of gods and s a ritual drink. These"}, {"end": "00:43:40", "start": "00:43:36", "text": "hymns are recited during rituals and"}, {"end": "00:43:42", "start": "00:43:38", "text": "ceremonies and are considered to have"}, {"end": "00:43:44", "start": "00:43:40", "text": "spiritual and philosophical"}, {"end": "00:43:47", "start": "00:43:42", "text": "significance. They also cover a wide"}, {"end": "00:43:50", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "range of topics including cosmology,"}, {"end": "00:43:54", "start": "00:43:47", "text": "ethics and the nature of so the the"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:50", "text": "domain force brought the vdic hymns. I"}, {"end": "00:43:57", "start": "00:43:54", "text": "mean that would make sense right? If"}, {"end": "00:44:00", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "there is some like deeper knowledge out"}, {"end": "00:44:02", "start": "00:43:57", "text": "there that exists that that would have"}, {"end": "00:44:05", "start": "00:44:00", "text": "been brought to us by a more intelligent"}, {"end": "00:44:06", "start": "00:44:02", "text": "species. So the vadas were learned by"}, {"end": "00:44:09", "start": "00:44:05", "text": "them memorized and carried forward"}, {"end": "00:44:11", "start": "00:44:06", "text": "verbally for 7,000 years before being"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:09", "text": "committed to written form. During that"}, {"end": "00:44:15", "start": "00:44:11", "text": "span of time, one of the officers of the"}, {"end": "00:44:18", "start": "00:44:13", "text": "domain expeditionary force was"}, {"end": "00:44:21", "start": "00:44:15", "text": "incarnated on earth as Vishnu. He is"}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:18", "text": "described many times in the Rigveda. He"}, {"end": "00:44:26", "start": "00:44:21", "text": "is still considered to be a god by the"}, {"end": "00:44:29", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "Hindus. Vishnu fought in the religious"}, {"end": "00:44:32", "start": "00:44:26", "text": "wars against the old empire forces. He"}, {"end": "00:44:35", "start": "00:44:29", "text": "is a very able and aggressive isby as"}, {"end": "00:44:37", "start": "00:44:32", "text": "well as a highly effective officer who"}, {"end": "00:44:39", "start": "00:44:35", "text": "has since been reassigned to other"}, {"end": "00:44:42", "start": "00:44:37", "text": "duties in the domain. How"}, {"end": "00:44:47", "start": "00:44:39", "text": "cool. That's such cool. That's such a"}, {"end": "00:44:50", "start": "00:44:42", "text": "cool lore. This is so cool. If this is"}, {"end": "00:44:52", "start": "00:44:47", "text": "reality reality is like the best science"}, {"end": "00:44:55", "start": "00:44:50", "text": "fiction novel of all, right? If this was"}, {"end": "00:44:56", "start": "00:44:52", "text": "true, that would be just the best. Now"}, {"end": "00:44:58", "start": "00:44:55", "text": "you're thinking, which is it, Chris? Do"}, {"end": "00:45:01", "start": "00:44:56", "text": "you like this? Do you not like this? I"}, {"end": "00:45:03", "start": "00:44:58", "text": "don't know. I like the idea of this like"}, {"end": "00:45:05", "start": "00:45:01", "text": "soul battle going on. Like the the"}, {"end": "00:45:08", "start": "00:45:03", "text": "science fiction nerd in me is like"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:05", "text": "thriving right now. But, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:45:13", "start": "00:45:08", "text": "human which uh which is which which is"}, {"end": "00:45:17", "start": "00:45:11", "text": "on the outside of this isby is is kind"}, {"end": "00:45:19", "start": "00:45:13", "text": "of scared. But, you know, either way, I"}, {"end": "00:45:22", "start": "00:45:17", "text": "think incredibly entertaining uh to say"}, {"end": "00:45:24", "start": "00:45:19", "text": "the least. This entire episode was"}, {"end": "00:45:27", "start": "00:45:22", "text": "orchestrated as an attack and revolt"}, {"end": "00:45:28", "start": "00:45:24", "text": "against the Egyptian pantheon installed"}, {"end": "00:45:30", "start": "00:45:27", "text": "by old empire"}, {"end": "00:45:32", "start": "00:45:28", "text": "administrators. The conflict was"}, {"end": "00:45:34", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "intended to help free humankind from"}, {"end": "00:45:36", "start": "00:45:32", "text": "implanted elements of the false"}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:34", "text": "civilization that focused attention on"}, {"end": "00:45:41", "start": "00:45:36", "text": "many gods as superstitious ritual"}, {"end": "00:45:44", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "warships demanded by the priests who"}, {"end": "00:45:46", "start": "00:45:41", "text": "managed them. It is all part of the"}, {"end": "00:45:48", "start": "00:45:44", "text": "mental manipulation by the old empire to"}, {"end": "00:45:50", "start": "00:45:46", "text": "hide their criminal actions against the"}, {"end": "00:45:53", "start": "00:45:48", "text": "isbes on Earth. Whoa. Okay. So the"}, {"end": "00:45:58", "start": "00:45:50", "text": "ancient Egyptians were the"}, {"end": "00:46:02", "start": "00:45:53", "text": "empire and then the ancient Hindu"}, {"end": "00:46:04", "start": "00:45:58", "text": "was you know the uh the domain isbes. A"}, {"end": "00:46:06", "start": "00:46:02", "text": "priesthood or prison guards were used to"}, {"end": "00:46:09", "start": "00:46:04", "text": "help reinforce the idea that an"}, {"end": "00:46:11", "start": "00:46:06", "text": "individual is only a biological body and"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:09", "text": "is not an immortal spiritual being. The"}, {"end": "00:46:16", "start": "00:46:11", "text": "individual has no identity. The"}, {"end": "00:46:19", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "individuals have no past lives. The"}, {"end": "00:46:21", "start": "00:46:16", "text": "individual has no power. Only the gods"}, {"end": "00:46:24", "start": "00:46:19", "text": "have power and the gods are a"}, {"end": "00:46:28", "start": "00:46:21", "text": "contrivance of the priests who intercede"}, {"end": "00:46:30", "start": "00:46:24", "text": "between men and the gods they serve. Men"}, {"end": "00:46:32", "start": "00:46:28", "text": "are slaves to the dictates of the"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:30", "text": "priests who threaten eternal spiritual"}, {"end": "00:46:37", "start": "00:46:32", "text": "punishment if men do not obey them. What"}, {"end": "00:46:39", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "else would one expect on a prison planet"}, {"end": "00:46:41", "start": "00:46:37", "text": "where all prisoners have have amnesia"}, {"end": "00:46:43", "start": "00:46:39", "text": "and the priests themselves are"}, {"end": "00:46:45", "start": "00:46:41", "text": "prisoners? The intervention of the"}, {"end": "00:46:48", "start": "00:46:43", "text": "domain force on Earth has not been"}, {"end": "00:46:50", "start": "00:46:45", "text": "entirely successful due to the secret"}, {"end": "00:46:52", "start": "00:46:48", "text": "mind control operation of the old empire"}, {"end": "00:46:55", "start": "00:46:50", "text": "that still continues to"}, {"end": "00:46:57", "start": "00:46:52", "text": "operate. A battle was waged between old"}, {"end": "00:47:00", "start": "00:46:55", "text": "empire forces and the domain through"}, {"end": "00:47:03", "start": "00:46:57", "text": "religious conquest between 1500 BC and"}, {"end": "00:47:05", "start": "00:47:00", "text": "about 1200 BC. The domain forces"}, {"end": "00:47:07", "start": "00:47:03", "text": "attempted to teach the concept of an"}, {"end": "00:47:11", "start": "00:47:05", "text": "individual immortal spiritual being to"}, {"end": "00:47:13", "start": "00:47:07", "text": "several influential beings on Earth."}, {"end": "00:47:15", "start": "00:47:11", "text": "One such instance resulted in a very"}, {"end": "00:47:17", "start": "00:47:13", "text": "tragic misunderstanding,"}, {"end": "00:47:20", "start": "00:47:15", "text": "misinterpretation and misapplication of"}, {"end": "00:47:23", "start": "00:47:17", "text": "the concept. The idea was perverted and"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:20", "text": "applied to mean that there is only one"}, {"end": "00:47:28", "start": "00:47:23", "text": "Isby instead of the truth that everyone"}, {"end": "00:47:30", "start": "00:47:25", "text": "is an Isby. Obviously, this was a gross"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:28", "text": "incomprehension, an utter unwillingness"}, {"end": "00:47:36", "start": "00:47:30", "text": "to take responsibility for one's own"}, {"end": "00:47:39", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "power. Is he talking about"}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:36", "text": "Jesus? What's going on here? The Old"}, {"end": "00:47:43", "start": "00:47:39", "text": "Empire priests managed to corrupt the"}, {"end": "00:47:45", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "concept of individual immortality into"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:43", "text": "the idea that there is only one all"}, {"end": "00:47:51", "start": "00:47:45", "text": "powerful Isby and that no one else is or"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "is allowed to be an iss. Obviously, this"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:51", "text": "is the work of the Old Empire amnesia"}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "operation. It is easy to teach this"}, {"end": "00:48:00", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "altered notion to beings who do not want"}, {"end": "00:48:02", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "to be responsible for their own lives."}, {"end": "00:48:05", "start": "00:48:00", "text": "Slaves are such"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:02", "text": "beings. As long as one chooses to assign"}, {"end": "00:48:08", "start": "00:48:05", "text": "responsibility for creation, existence,"}, {"end": "00:48:11", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "and personal accountability for one's"}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:08", "text": "own thoughts and actions to others, one"}, {"end": "00:48:17", "start": "00:48:11", "text": "is a slave."}, {"end": "00:48:20", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "As a result, the concept of a single"}, {"end": "00:48:23", "start": "00:48:17", "text": "monotheistic god resulted and was"}, {"end": "00:48:26", "start": "00:48:20", "text": "promoted by many self-proclaimed"}, {"end": "00:48:28", "start": "00:48:23", "text": "prophets such as the Jewish slave leader"}, {"end": "00:48:33", "start": "00:48:26", "text": "Moses who grew up in the household of"}, {"end": "00:48:36", "start": "00:48:28", "text": "the pharaoh Amenoteep III and his son"}, {"end": "00:48:39", "start": "00:48:33", "text": "Aenetan and his wife Nefertiti as well"}, {"end": "00:48:41", "start": "00:48:36", "text": "as his son Tutankan."}, {"end": "00:48:44", "start": "00:48:39", "text": "The attempt to teach certain beings on"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:41", "text": "Earth the truth that they are themselves"}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:44", "text": "isbees was part of a plan to overthrow"}, {"end": "00:48:51", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "the fictional metaphorical"}, {"end": "00:48:53", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "anthropomorphic paniply of gods created"}, {"end": "00:48:55", "start": "00:48:51", "text": "by the old empire mystery cult called"}, {"end": "00:48:58", "start": "00:48:53", "text": "the brothers of the"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:55", "text": "serpent known in Egypt as the priests of"}, {"end": "00:49:03", "start": "00:48:58", "text": "Ammoon. They are very ancient secret"}, {"end": "00:49:05", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "society within the old empire. Hold on."}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:03", "text": "Brothers of the"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:05", "text": "serpents. Is the old empire"}, {"end": "00:49:15", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "reptilian? But didn't the reptilians say"}, {"end": "00:49:17", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "that these other guys were evil? Got"}, {"end": "00:49:19", "start": "00:49:15", "text": "some alien propaganda going on here. The"}, {"end": "00:49:21", "start": "00:49:17", "text": "pharaoh Kennington was not a very"}, {"end": "00:49:23", "start": "00:49:19", "text": "intelligent being and was heavily"}, {"end": "00:49:25", "start": "00:49:21", "text": "influenced by his personal ambition for"}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:23", "text": "self- glorification. He altered the"}, {"end": "00:49:28", "start": "00:49:25", "text": "concept of the individual spiritual"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "being and embodied the concept in the"}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:28", "text": "sun god a 10en. His pitiful existence"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "was soon ended. He was assassinated by"}, {"end": "00:49:39", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "Maya and"}, {"end": "00:49:42", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "Perennifer, two of the priests of Ammun"}, {"end": "00:49:44", "start": "00:49:39", "text": "or Amen, which the Christians still say"}, {"end": "00:49:48", "start": "00:49:42", "text": "who represented the interests of the old"}, {"end": "00:49:50", "start": "00:49:44", "text": "empire forces. The idea of one God was"}, {"end": "00:49:53", "start": "00:49:48", "text": "perpetuated by the Hebrew leader Moses"}, {"end": "00:49:55", "start": "00:49:50", "text": "while he was in Egypt. He left Egypt"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:53", "text": "with his adopted people, the Jewish"}, {"end": "00:49:59", "start": "00:49:55", "text": "slaves. While they were crossing the"}, {"end": "00:50:01", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "desert, Moses was intercepted by an"}, {"end": "00:50:03", "start": "00:49:59", "text": "operative of the Old Empire near Mount"}, {"end": "00:50:06", "start": "00:50:01", "text": "Si. Moses was tricked into believing"}, {"end": "00:50:09", "start": "00:50:03", "text": "that this operative was the one god"}, {"end": "00:50:11", "start": "00:50:06", "text": "through the use of hypnotic commands as"}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:09", "text": "well as technical and aesthetic tricks"}, {"end": "00:50:15", "start": "00:50:11", "text": "which are commonly used by the old"}, {"end": "00:50:17", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "empire to trap isbes. Thereafter, the"}, {"end": "00:50:20", "start": "00:50:15", "text": "Jewish slaves who trusted the word of"}, {"end": "00:50:23", "start": "00:50:17", "text": "Moses implicitly have worshiped a single"}, {"end": "00:50:26", "start": "00:50:20", "text": "god they call Yahweh."}, {"end": "00:50:28", "start": "00:50:23", "text": "The name Yahweh means anonymous. As the"}, {"end": "00:50:30", "start": "00:50:26", "text": "Isby who worked with Moses could not use"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:28", "text": "an actual name or anything that would"}, {"end": "00:50:35", "start": "00:50:30", "text": "identify himself or blow the cover of"}, {"end": "00:50:37", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "the amnesia/prison operation. The last"}, {"end": "00:50:39", "start": "00:50:35", "text": "thing the covert amnesia hypnosis prison"}, {"end": "00:50:42", "start": "00:50:37", "text": "system wanted to do is to reveal"}, {"end": "00:50:44", "start": "00:50:39", "text": "themselves openly to the Isbes on Earth."}, {"end": "00:50:45", "start": "00:50:42", "text": "They feel that this would restore the"}, {"end": "00:50:48", "start": "00:50:44", "text": "inmates"}, {"end": "00:50:49", "start": "00:50:45", "text": "memories. This is kind of crazy. This is"}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:48", "text": "kind of nuts right now. We're we're"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:49", "text": "we're we're in we're in pretty nutty"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "territory. All right. Now, you're I'm"}, {"end": "00:50:59", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "not saying you lost me, but these are"}, {"end": "00:51:02", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "really interesting details that I think"}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:50:59", "text": "uh I guess are important for the I don't"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:51:02", "text": "know. This is the reason that all traces"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "of physical encounters between"}, {"end": "00:51:09", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "operatives of space civilizations and"}, {"end": "00:51:12", "start": "00:51:08", "text": "humans is very carefully hidden,"}, {"end": "00:51:14", "start": "00:51:09", "text": "disguised, covered up, and denied or"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:12", "text": "misdirected."}, {"end": "00:51:18", "start": "00:51:14", "text": "This Old Empire operative contacted"}, {"end": "00:51:21", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "Moses on a desert mountaintop and"}, {"end": "00:51:23", "start": "00:51:18", "text": "delivered the 10 hypnotic commands to"}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:21", "text": "him. These commands are very forcefully"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:23", "text": "worded and compel an Isby into utter"}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "subservience to the will of the"}, {"end": "00:51:33", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "operator. These hypnotic commands are"}, {"end": "00:51:35", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "still in the effect and influence the"}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:33", "text": "thought patterns of millions of iss"}, {"end": "00:51:40", "start": "00:51:35", "text": "thousands of years later."}, {"end": "00:51:42", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "Incidentally, we later discovered that"}, {"end": "00:51:44", "start": "00:51:40", "text": "the so-called Yahweh also wrote,"}, {"end": "00:51:47", "start": "00:51:42", "text": "programmed, and encoded the text of the"}, {"end": "00:51:50", "start": "00:51:44", "text": "Torah, which when it is read literally"}, {"end": "00:51:52", "start": "00:51:47", "text": "or in its decoded form, will provide a"}, {"end": "00:51:54", "start": "00:51:50", "text": "great deal more false information to"}, {"end": "00:51:56", "start": "00:51:52", "text": "those who read it. Ultimately, the"}, {"end": "00:51:58", "start": "00:51:54", "text": "Vicims became the source of nearly all"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:56", "text": "of the Eastern religions and were the"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:58", "text": "philosophical source of the ideas common"}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "to Buddha, Zoroaster, and other"}, {"end": "00:52:08", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "philosophers. The civilizing influences"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "of these philosophies eventually replace"}, {"end": "00:52:14", "start": "00:52:08", "text": "the brutal idolatry of the old empire"}, {"end": "00:52:15", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "religions and were the true genesis of"}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:14", "text": "kindness and"}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:15", "text": "compassion. You asked me earlier why the"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "domain and other space civilizations do"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "not land on Earth or make their presence"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "known land on Earth. Do you think we are"}, {"end": "00:52:31", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "crazy or want to be crazy? It takes a"}, {"end": "00:52:33", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "very brave Isby to come down through the"}, {"end": "00:52:36", "start": "00:52:31", "text": "atmosphere and land on Earth because"}, {"end": "00:52:39", "start": "00:52:33", "text": "this is a prison planet with a very"}, {"end": "00:52:42", "start": "00:52:36", "text": "uncontrolled psychotic population. And"}, {"end": "00:52:43", "start": "00:52:39", "text": "no Isby is entirely proof against the"}, {"end": "00:52:46", "start": "00:52:42", "text": "risk of"}, {"end": "00:52:47", "start": "00:52:43", "text": "entrapment. As with the members of the"}, {"end": "00:52:50", "start": "00:52:46", "text": "domain expeditionary force who were"}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:47", "text": "captured in the Himalayas 8,200 years"}, {"end": "00:52:58", "start": "00:52:50", "text": "ago. I like how all of a sudden Arrol is"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "like, \"You think I'm nuts, bro? Coming"}, {"end": "00:53:02", "start": "00:52:58", "text": "to"}, {"end": "00:53:05", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "Earth. Coming to this crazy"}, {"end": "00:53:08", "start": "00:53:02", "text": "place. Yeah, Arrol can't hang with us,"}, {"end": "00:53:10", "start": "00:53:05", "text": "man. We're too uncontrollable and"}, {"end": "00:53:12", "start": "00:53:08", "text": "psychotic. No one knows what is bebs on"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:10", "text": "Earth are going to do. We are not"}, {"end": "00:53:15", "start": "00:53:12", "text": "scheduled to invest the resources of the"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "domain to take total control of all the"}, {"end": "00:53:20", "start": "00:53:15", "text": "space surrounding the area at this time."}, {"end": "00:53:22", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "This will occur in the not too distant"}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:20", "text": "future, about 5,000 Earth years,"}, {"end": "00:53:28", "start": "00:53:22", "text": "according to the time schedule of the"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "domain. At this time, uh, we do not"}, {"end": "00:53:32", "start": "00:53:28", "text": "prevent transports from other planetary"}, {"end": "00:53:35", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "systems or galaxies from continuing to"}, {"end": "00:53:37", "start": "00:53:32", "text": "drop isbes into the Amnesia forcreen"}, {"end": "00:53:40", "start": "00:53:35", "text": "area. Eventually, this will change. I"}, {"end": "00:53:44", "start": "00:53:37", "text": "love how this just became like a"}, {"end": "00:53:48", "start": "00:53:40", "text": "clerical bureaucracy related problem for"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:44", "text": "us. We're like, \"Please free our souls"}, {"end": "00:53:52", "start": "00:53:48", "text": "from this eternal prison planet.\" And"}, {"end": "00:53:54", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "they're like, \"Yeah, we'll get to it. Uh"}, {"end": "00:53:57", "start": "00:53:52", "text": "yeah, we got you scheduled down for"}, {"end": "00:53:59", "start": "00:53:54", "text": "5,000 years. So, not too long"}, {"end": "00:54:02", "start": "00:53:57", "text": "considering, you know, the 80 trillion"}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:53:59", "text": "years of existence. Um should only be"}, {"end": "00:54:07", "start": "00:54:02", "text": "another 5,000 years. So, hang in there"}, {"end": "00:54:09", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "and uh we'll get back to you as soon as"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:07", "text": "we loop back around. All right, I'm"}, {"end": "00:54:13", "start": "00:54:09", "text": "going to I'm going to circle back around"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "to this problem in 5,000"}, {"end": "00:54:19", "start": "00:54:13", "text": "years. Warm regards the domain. In"}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "addition, Earth inherently is a highly"}, {"end": "00:54:24", "start": "00:54:19", "text": "unstable planet. It is not suitable for"}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "settlement or permanent habitation for"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:24", "text": "any sustainable civilization. This is"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "part of the reason why it is being used"}, {"end": "00:54:32", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "as a prison planet. No one else would"}, {"end": "00:54:34", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "seriously consider living here for a"}, {"end": "00:54:37", "start": "00:54:32", "text": "variety of simple and compelling"}, {"end": "00:54:39", "start": "00:54:34", "text": "reasons. Well, let's hear them out"}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:37", "text": "because I I tend to disagree. I think"}, {"end": "00:54:43", "start": "00:54:39", "text": "the fjords are beautiful. Just some"}, {"end": "00:54:46", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "amazing places on this earth that would"}, {"end": "00:54:49", "start": "00:54:43", "text": "that would compel lots of people to want"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:46", "text": "to colonize us. Number one, the"}, {"end": "00:54:53", "start": "00:54:49", "text": "continental land masses of Earth are"}, {"end": "00:54:55", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "floating on a sea of molten lava beneath"}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:53", "text": "the surface, which causes the land"}, {"end": "00:55:00", "start": "00:54:55", "text": "masses to crack, crumble, and drift"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "continually. Okay, not a bad note. All"}, {"end": "00:55:05", "start": "00:55:00", "text": "right, I'll give you one point. Number"}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "two, because of the liquid nature of the"}, {"end": "00:55:09", "start": "00:55:05", "text": "core, the planet is largely volcanic and"}, {"end": "00:55:12", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "subject to earthquakes and volcanic"}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:09", "text": "explosions. All"}, {"end": "00:55:18", "start": "00:55:12", "text": "right. Okay. Number three, the magnetic"}, {"end": "00:55:20", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "poles of the planet shift radically"}, {"end": "00:55:22", "start": "00:55:18", "text": "about once every 20,000 years. This"}, {"end": "00:55:24", "start": "00:55:20", "text": "causes a greater or lesser degree of"}, {"end": "00:55:28", "start": "00:55:22", "text": "devastation as a result of the tidal"}, {"end": "00:55:28", "start": "00:55:24", "text": "waves and climatic change"}, {"end": "00:55:31", "start": "00:55:28", "text": "changes."}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:31", "text": "Okay. All right. Three for three. Uh"}, {"end": "00:55:38", "start": "00:55:34", "text": "number four, Earth is a very distant is"}, {"end": "00:55:41", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "very distant from the center of the"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:38", "text": "galaxy and from any other significant"}, {"end": "00:55:46", "start": "00:55:41", "text": "galactic civilization. This isolation"}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "makes it unsuitable for use except as a"}, {"end": "00:55:51", "start": "00:55:46", "text": "pit stop or jumping off point along the"}, {"end": "00:55:53", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "way between galaxies. The moon and"}, {"end": "00:55:55", "start": "00:55:51", "text": "asteroids are far more suitable for this"}, {"end": "00:55:58", "start": "00:55:53", "text": "purpose because they do not have any"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:55", "text": "significant gravity. Okay. Well, I don't"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:55:58", "text": "know about that, so you know, I can't"}, {"end": "00:56:06", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "agree with it. Number five, Earth is a"}, {"end": "00:56:08", "start": "00:56:03", "text": "heavy gravity planet with heavy metallic"}, {"end": "00:56:10", "start": "00:56:06", "text": "soil and a dense atmosphere. This makes"}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:08", "text": "it treacherous for navigational"}, {"end": "00:56:16", "start": "00:56:10", "text": "purposes. That fact that I am in this"}, {"end": "00:56:18", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "room as the result of an in-flight"}, {"end": "00:56:21", "start": "00:56:16", "text": "accident in spite of the technology of"}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:18", "text": "my craft and my extensive expertise as a"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:21", "text": "pilot are proof of these facts. That's"}, {"end": "00:56:30", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "hilarious. That is pretty funny that"}, {"end": "00:56:33", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "this, you know, salty little being is"}, {"end": "00:56:37", "start": "00:56:30", "text": "like, \"Your planet"}, {"end": "00:56:39", "start": "00:56:33", "text": "sucks.\" And um the only reason I'm here"}, {"end": "00:56:41", "start": "00:56:37", "text": "is because it is unnavigable. It is"}, {"end": "00:56:44", "start": "00:56:39", "text": "dense. It is"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:41", "text": "gravitationally anomalous and we don't"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:44", "text": "like it. We don't like coming here. We"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "don't want to be here. This is a"}, {"end": "00:56:52", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "disgusting prison planet. I don't know."}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "Our pilots seem to do just"}, {"end": "00:56:57", "start": "00:56:52", "text": "fine. Maybe you could take a note,"}, {"end": "00:57:00", "start": "00:56:54", "text": "Errol, on how to properly fly one of"}, {"end": "00:57:03", "start": "00:56:57", "text": "these things. Number six, there are"}, {"end": "00:57:06", "start": "00:57:00", "text": "approximately 60 billion Earthlike sun"}, {"end": "00:57:09", "start": "00:57:03", "text": "type 12 class 7 planets in the Milky Way"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:06", "text": "galaxy alone. Not to mention the vast"}, {"end": "00:57:13", "start": "00:57:09", "text": "expanse of the domain and the"}, {"end": "00:57:14", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "territories we will claim in the future."}, {"end": "00:57:17", "start": "00:57:13", "text": "It is difficult to stretch our resources"}, {"end": "00:57:19", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "to do so much more than a periodic"}, {"end": "00:57:21", "start": "00:57:17", "text": "reconnaissance of Earth. Especially when"}, {"end": "00:57:24", "start": "00:57:19", "text": "there are no immediate advantages to"}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:21", "text": "invest resources here. Makes sense. I"}, {"end": "00:57:28", "start": "00:57:24", "text": "I'll Yeah, I see you there. Not worth"}, {"end": "00:57:31", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "stopping"}, {"end": "00:57:33", "start": "00:57:28", "text": "by. Got it."}, {"end": "00:57:37", "start": "00:57:31", "text": "On Earth, most beings are not aware that"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:33", "text": "they are isbes or that they there are"}, {"end": "00:57:42", "start": "00:57:37", "text": "spirits of any kind. Many other beings"}, {"end": "00:57:44", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "are aware of this, but nearly everyone"}, {"end": "00:57:46", "start": "00:57:42", "text": "has a very limited understanding of"}, {"end": "00:57:48", "start": "00:57:44", "text": "themselves as an Isby. One of the"}, {"end": "00:57:50", "start": "00:57:46", "text": "reasons for this is that isbes have been"}, {"end": "00:57:52", "start": "00:57:48", "text": "waging war against each other since the"}, {"end": "00:57:54", "start": "00:57:50", "text": "beginning of time. The purpose of these"}, {"end": "00:57:57", "start": "00:57:52", "text": "wars have always been to establish"}, {"end": "00:58:00", "start": "00:57:54", "text": "domination by one is or group of isbes"}, {"end": "00:58:02", "start": "00:57:57", "text": "over another. Since an ISBY cannot be"}, {"end": "00:58:05", "start": "00:58:00", "text": "killed, the objective has been to"}, {"end": "00:58:08", "start": "00:58:02", "text": "capture and immobilize isbes. This has"}, {"end": "00:58:10", "start": "00:58:05", "text": "been done in a nearly unlimited variety"}, {"end": "00:58:13", "start": "00:58:08", "text": "of ways. The most basic method to"}, {"end": "00:58:13", "start": "00:58:10", "text": "capture and immobilize an"}, {"end": "00:58:27", "start": "00:58:20", "text": "issued the old empire beginning about 64"}, {"end": "00:58:29", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "trillion years ago. Traps are often set"}, {"end": "00:58:31", "start": "00:58:27", "text": "up in the territory of the issbes being"}, {"end": "00:58:34", "start": "00:58:29", "text": "attacked. Usually a trap is set within"}, {"end": "00:58:36", "start": "00:58:31", "text": "the electronic wave of beauty to attract"}, {"end": "00:58:38", "start": "00:58:34", "text": "the interest and attention of the iss."}, {"end": "00:58:41", "start": "00:58:36", "text": "And when the iss moves towards the"}, {"end": "00:58:43", "start": "00:58:38", "text": "source of the aesthetic wave, such a"}, {"end": "00:58:45", "start": "00:58:41", "text": "beautiful building or beautiful music,"}, {"end": "00:58:48", "start": "00:58:43", "text": "the trap is activated by the energy put"}, {"end": "00:58:50", "start": "00:58:45", "text": "out by the Isby. One of the most common"}, {"end": "00:58:53", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "trap mechanisms uses the Isisby's own"}, {"end": "00:58:54", "start": "00:58:50", "text": "thought energy output when the Isby"}, {"end": "00:58:56", "start": "00:58:53", "text": "tries to attack or fight against the"}, {"end": "00:58:58", "start": "00:58:54", "text": "trap."}, {"end": "00:59:00", "start": "00:58:56", "text": "fight back against the trap. The trap is"}, {"end": "00:59:02", "start": "00:58:58", "text": "activated and energized by the Isby's"}, {"end": "00:59:04", "start": "00:59:00", "text": "own thought energy. The harder the Isby"}, {"end": "00:59:07", "start": "00:59:02", "text": "fights against the trap, the more it"}, {"end": "00:59:10", "start": "00:59:04", "text": "pulls the"}, {"end": "00:59:13", "start": "00:59:07", "text": "IBS toward it and keeps them stuck in"}, {"end": "00:59:14", "start": "00:59:10", "text": "the trap or the Isby. He probably meant"}, {"end": "00:59:17", "start": "00:59:13", "text": "to spell Isby there. Throughout the"}, {"end": "00:59:19", "start": "00:59:14", "text": "entire history of this physical"}, {"end": "00:59:21", "start": "00:59:17", "text": "universe, vast areas of space have been"}, {"end": "00:59:24", "start": "00:59:19", "text": "taken over and colonized by Isby"}, {"end": "00:59:26", "start": "00:59:21", "text": "societies who invade and take over new"}, {"end": "00:59:28", "start": "00:59:24", "text": "areas of space. in this"}, {"end": "00:59:30", "start": "00:59:26", "text": "fashion. In the past, these invasions"}, {"end": "00:59:32", "start": "00:59:28", "text": "have always shared common elements. All"}, {"end": "00:59:35", "start": "00:59:30", "text": "right, let's see what they are. Number"}, {"end": "00:59:37", "start": "00:59:32", "text": "one, the overwhelming use of force of"}, {"end": "00:59:40", "start": "00:59:35", "text": "arms, usually with nuclear electronic"}, {"end": "00:59:43", "start": "00:59:37", "text": "weapons. Number two, mind control of the"}, {"end": "00:59:45", "start": "00:59:40", "text": "Isbes in the invaded area through the"}, {"end": "00:59:47", "start": "00:59:43", "text": "use of electroshock, drugs, hypnosis,"}, {"end": "00:59:49", "start": "00:59:45", "text": "eraser of memory, and implantation of"}, {"end": "00:59:51", "start": "00:59:47", "text": "false memory or false information"}, {"end": "00:59:55", "start": "00:59:49", "text": "intended to subjugate and enslave the"}, {"end": "00:59:57", "start": "00:59:51", "text": "local ASB population. Check. Number"}, {"end": "00:59:59", "start": "00:59:55", "text": "three, takeover of natural resources by"}, {"end": "01:00:01", "start": "00:59:57", "text": "the invading isbs. Check. Number four,"}, {"end": "01:00:03", "start": "00:59:59", "text": "political, economic, and social slavery"}, {"end": "01:00:05", "start": "01:00:01", "text": "of the local population. These"}, {"end": "01:00:07", "start": "01:00:03", "text": "activities continue in present time. All"}, {"end": "01:00:09", "start": "01:00:05", "text": "of the isbes on Earth have been members"}, {"end": "01:00:12", "start": "01:00:07", "text": "of one or more of these activities in"}, {"end": "01:00:14", "start": "01:00:09", "text": "the past. Both as an invader or as part"}, {"end": "01:00:17", "start": "01:00:12", "text": "of the population being invaded. There"}, {"end": "01:00:19", "start": "01:00:14", "text": "are no saints in this universe. Very few"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:17", "text": "have avoided or been exempted from"}, {"end": "01:00:24", "start": "01:00:19", "text": "warfare between isbes. Isbes on Earth"}, {"end": "01:00:27", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "are still the victims of this activity"}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:24", "text": "at this very moment. The between lives"}, {"end": "01:00:32", "start": "01:00:27", "text": "amnesia administered to isbes is one of"}, {"end": "01:00:34", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "the mechanisms of an elaborate system of"}, {"end": "01:00:35", "start": "01:00:32", "text": "old empire is be trapped. Well, that's"}, {"end": "01:00:38", "start": "01:00:34", "text": "interesting because again I reference"}, {"end": "01:00:41", "start": "01:00:35", "text": "Dr. Michael Newton and his books journey"}, {"end": "01:00:44", "start": "01:00:38", "text": "of souls and destiny of souls and so"}, {"end": "01:00:47", "start": "01:00:41", "text": "forth where the focus of the books is"}, {"end": "01:00:50", "start": "01:00:44", "text": "life between life. It is about our souls"}, {"end": "01:00:53", "start": "01:00:47", "text": "and where they go between lives. Now"}, {"end": "01:00:57", "start": "01:00:50", "text": "this is proposing that that whole life"}, {"end": "01:00:59", "start": "01:00:53", "text": "between life thing might just"}, {"end": "01:01:03", "start": "01:00:57", "text": "be"}, {"end": "01:01:06", "start": "01:00:59", "text": "controlled suggestion. If you created a"}, {"end": "01:01:09", "start": "01:01:03", "text": "being and wanted to control it, you"}, {"end": "01:01:12", "start": "01:01:06", "text": "would have to have some type"}, {"end": "01:01:16", "start": "01:01:09", "text": "of firewall or some type"}, {"end": "01:01:18", "start": "01:01:12", "text": "of I don't know, some type of screen in"}, {"end": "01:01:22", "start": "01:01:16", "text": "place"}, {"end": "01:01:25", "start": "01:01:18", "text": "where if the physical body underwent"}, {"end": "01:01:27", "start": "01:01:22", "text": "hypnotic regression, it would"}, {"end": "01:01:29", "start": "01:01:25", "text": "automatically tap"}, {"end": "01:01:32", "start": "01:01:27", "text": "into the information that was placed"}, {"end": "01:01:34", "start": "01:01:29", "text": "there for it to be uncovered."}, {"end": "01:01:36", "start": "01:01:32", "text": "Right. So that all of these past life"}, {"end": "01:01:38", "start": "01:01:34", "text": "regression or between life regressions"}, {"end": "01:01:40", "start": "01:01:36", "text": "are actually just implanted false"}, {"end": "01:01:45", "start": "01:01:38", "text": "memories that are at the base of our"}, {"end": "01:01:50", "start": "01:01:40", "text": "consciousness in case you know we breach"}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:45", "text": "this conscious barrier uh you know like"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:50", "text": "we do during hypnotic regression. I"}, {"end": "01:01:56", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "don't know just an interesting thought"}, {"end": "01:01:58", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "interesting and terrifying. This"}, {"end": "01:02:00", "start": "01:01:56", "text": "operation is managed by an illicit"}, {"end": "01:02:02", "start": "01:01:58", "text": "renegade secret police force of the old"}, {"end": "01:02:05", "start": "01:02:00", "text": "empire using false provocation"}, {"end": "01:02:06", "start": "01:02:02", "text": "operations to disguise their activity in"}, {"end": "01:02:08", "start": "01:02:05", "text": "order to prevent detection by their own"}, {"end": "01:02:10", "start": "01:02:06", "text": "government, the domain, and by the"}, {"end": "01:02:12", "start": "01:02:08", "text": "victims of their"}, {"end": "01:02:15", "start": "01:02:10", "text": "activities. They are mind control"}, {"end": "01:02:19", "start": "01:02:12", "text": "methods developed by government"}, {"end": "01:02:22", "start": "01:02:15", "text": "psychiatrists. Earth is a ghetto planet."}, {"end": "01:02:25", "start": "01:02:19", "text": "It is the result of an intergalactic"}, {"end": "01:02:29", "start": "01:02:22", "text": "holocaust. ISBes have been sentenced to"}, {"end": "01:02:31", "start": "01:02:25", "text": "Earth either because one they are too"}, {"end": "01:02:33", "start": "01:02:29", "text": "viciously insane or perverse to function"}, {"end": "01:02:38", "start": "01:02:31", "text": "as a part of any civilization no matter"}, {"end": "01:02:40", "start": "01:02:33", "text": "how degraded or corrupt. Two or they are"}, {"end": "01:02:42", "start": "01:02:38", "text": "a revolutionary threat to the social,"}, {"end": "01:02:44", "start": "01:02:40", "text": "economic and political cast system that"}, {"end": "01:02:47", "start": "01:02:42", "text": "has been so carefully built and brutally"}, {"end": "01:02:48", "start": "01:02:44", "text": "enforced in the old empire. Biological"}, {"end": "01:02:51", "start": "01:02:47", "text": "bodies are specifically designed and"}, {"end": "01:02:53", "start": "01:02:48", "text": "designated as the lowest order of entity"}, {"end": "01:02:56", "start": "01:02:51", "text": "in the old empire cast system. When an"}, {"end": "01:02:58", "start": "01:02:53", "text": "ISB is sent to Earth and then tricked or"}, {"end": "01:03:00", "start": "01:02:56", "text": "coerced into operating in a biological"}, {"end": "01:03:03", "start": "01:02:58", "text": "body, they're actually in a prison"}, {"end": "01:03:07", "start": "01:03:00", "text": "inside a prison. Okay, it gets worse."}, {"end": "01:03:08", "start": "01:03:03", "text": "Cool. Um, I will say it is kind of funny"}, {"end": "01:03:13", "start": "01:03:07", "text": "that they're like, you're either a"}, {"end": "01:03:15", "start": "01:03:08", "text": "deviant pervert or, you know, a freedom"}, {"end": "01:03:17", "start": "01:03:13", "text": "fighter. And I bet like most people"}, {"end": "01:03:20", "start": "01:03:15", "text": "watching out there are like, \"Well, I"}, {"end": "01:03:22", "start": "01:03:17", "text": "think I know which one I am.\" It's kind"}, {"end": "01:03:25", "start": "01:03:20", "text": "of insane that like they"}, {"end": "01:03:27", "start": "01:03:22", "text": "just, you know, put two categories out"}, {"end": "01:03:29", "start": "01:03:25", "text": "there. Number three, in an effort to"}, {"end": "01:03:31", "start": "01:03:27", "text": "permanently and irreversibly rid the old"}, {"end": "01:03:34", "start": "01:03:29", "text": "empire of such"}, {"end": "01:03:37", "start": "01:03:31", "text": "untouchables. The ethereal the eternal"}, {"end": "01:03:40", "start": "01:03:34", "text": "identity, memory, and abilities of every"}, {"end": "01:03:42", "start": "01:03:37", "text": "Isby is forcefully erased. this final"}, {"end": "01:03:44", "start": "01:03:40", "text": "solution uh was conceived and carried"}, {"end": "01:03:46", "start": "01:03:42", "text": "out by the psychopathic criminals who"}, {"end": "01:03:50", "start": "01:03:44", "text": "are controlled by the old empire. I mean"}, {"end": "01:03:51", "start": "01:03:46", "text": "that's that's a bit of a you know final"}, {"end": "01:03:54", "start": "01:03:50", "text": "solution in"}, {"end": "01:03:57", "start": "01:03:51", "text": "quotes obviously referring to Hitler and"}, {"end": "01:03:59", "start": "01:03:54", "text": "yep here we go. The mass extermination"}, {"end": "01:04:01", "start": "01:03:57", "text": "of untouchables and prison camps created"}, {"end": "01:04:04", "start": "01:03:59", "text": "by Germany during World War II were"}, {"end": "01:04:07", "start": "01:04:01", "text": "recently revealed. Likewise, the isbes"}, {"end": "01:04:10", "start": "01:04:04", "text": "of Earth are the victims of spiritual"}, {"end": "01:04:13", "start": "01:04:07", "text": "eradication and eternal slavery inside"}, {"end": "01:04:15", "start": "01:04:10", "text": "frail biological bodies inspired by the"}, {"end": "01:04:18", "start": "01:04:13", "text": "same kind of craven hatred in the old"}, {"end": "01:04:21", "start": "01:04:15", "text": "empire. So, we're just"}, {"end": "01:04:26", "start": "01:04:18", "text": "basically incarnations of the worst of"}, {"end": "01:04:28", "start": "01:04:21", "text": "the worst the universe has to offer or"}, {"end": "01:04:30", "start": "01:04:26", "text": "some of the best. The kind and creative"}, {"end": "01:04:32", "start": "01:04:28", "text": "inmates of Earth are continuously"}, {"end": "01:04:34", "start": "01:04:30", "text": "tortured by butchers and lunatics who"}, {"end": "01:04:36", "start": "01:04:32", "text": "are controlled by the old empire prison"}, {"end": "01:04:38", "start": "01:04:34", "text": "operators. The so-called civilizations"}, {"end": "01:04:40", "start": "01:04:36", "text": "of Earth, from the age of useless"}, {"end": "01:04:42", "start": "01:04:38", "text": "pyramids to the age of nuclear"}, {"end": "01:04:45", "start": "01:04:40", "text": "holocaust, have been a colossal waste of"}, {"end": "01:04:48", "start": "01:04:42", "text": "natural resources, a perverted use of"}, {"end": "01:04:50", "start": "01:04:45", "text": "intelligence, and an overt oppression of"}, {"end": "01:04:52", "start": "01:04:48", "text": "the spiritual essence of every single"}, {"end": "01:04:54", "start": "01:04:50", "text": "isby on the planet. If the domain sent"}, {"end": "01:04:58", "start": "01:04:52", "text": "ships to every corner of the universe in"}, {"end": "01:05:01", "start": "01:04:54", "text": "search of hell, their quest could end on"}, {"end": "01:05:04", "start": "01:04:58", "text": "Earth. What greater brutality can be"}, {"end": "01:05:06", "start": "01:05:01", "text": "inflicted on anyone than to erase their"}, {"end": "01:05:08", "start": "01:05:04", "text": "spiritual awareness, identity, ability,"}, {"end": "01:05:10", "start": "01:05:06", "text": "and memory that is the essence of"}, {"end": "01:05:13", "start": "01:05:08", "text": "oneself."}, {"end": "01:05:13", "start": "01:05:10", "text": "Oof."}, {"end": "01:05:18", "start": "01:05:13", "text": "Wow. Yeah, that would be a big tragedy,"}, {"end": "01:05:20", "start": "01:05:16", "text": "wouldn't it? The majority of the lost"}, {"end": "01:05:21", "start": "01:05:18", "text": "members of the domain force have"}, {"end": "01:05:23", "start": "01:05:20", "text": "followed the general progression of"}, {"end": "01:05:27", "start": "01:05:21", "text": "Western civilization from India into the"}, {"end": "01:05:30", "start": "01:05:23", "text": "Middle East, then to Chaldi and Babylon"}, {"end": "01:05:32", "start": "01:05:27", "text": "into Egypt, through Archa, Greece, Rome"}, {"end": "01:05:34", "start": "01:05:30", "text": "into Europe, to the Western Hemisphere,"}, {"end": "01:05:36", "start": "01:05:32", "text": "and then all around the world. The"}, {"end": "01:05:38", "start": "01:05:34", "text": "members of the Lost Battalion and so"}, {"end": "01:05:40", "start": "01:05:36", "text": "many other isbes on Earth could be"}, {"end": "01:05:41", "start": "01:05:38", "text": "valuable citizens of the domain, not"}, {"end": "01:05:44", "start": "01:05:40", "text": "including those who are vicious"}, {"end": "01:05:45", "start": "01:05:41", "text": "criminals or perverts. Unfortunately,"}, {"end": "01:05:48", "start": "01:05:44", "text": "there has been no workable method"}, {"end": "01:05:51", "start": "01:05:45", "text": "conceived to emancipate the Isbes from"}, {"end": "01:05:54", "start": "01:05:48", "text": "Earth. Therefore, as a matter of common"}, {"end": "01:05:57", "start": "01:05:51", "text": "logic, as well as the official policy of"}, {"end": "01:05:59", "start": "01:05:54", "text": "the domain, it is safer and more"}, {"end": "01:06:02", "start": "01:05:57", "text": "sensible to avoid contact with the Isby"}, {"end": "01:06:05", "start": "01:05:59", "text": "population of Earth until such time as"}, {"end": "01:06:08", "start": "01:06:02", "text": "the proper resources can be allocated to"}, {"end": "01:06:10", "start": "01:06:05", "text": "locate and destroy the Old Empire force"}, {"end": "01:06:14", "start": "01:06:08", "text": "screen in amnesia machinery and develop"}, {"end": "01:06:17", "start": "01:06:10", "text": "a therapy to restore the memory of an"}, {"end": "01:06:17", "start": "01:06:14", "text": "Isby."}, {"end": "01:06:23", "start": "01:06:17", "text": "So once again, we're kind of we're kind"}, {"end": "01:06:25", "start": "01:06:19", "text": "of here waiting for our ride, but um"}, {"end": "01:06:28", "start": "01:06:23", "text": "ain't quite ready. You know, one thing I"}, {"end": "01:06:31", "start": "01:06:25", "text": "will say though, if this is the worst,"}, {"end": "01:06:34", "start": "01:06:28", "text": "how can we still feel love? How can we"}, {"end": "01:06:36", "start": "01:06:31", "text": "still feel joy, right? Maybe the amount"}, {"end": "01:06:38", "start": "01:06:34", "text": "of joy we feel just pale pales in"}, {"end": "01:06:40", "start": "01:06:36", "text": "comparison to what's actually out there."}, {"end": "01:06:44", "start": "01:06:38", "text": "Who knows? But I'm quite happy with this"}, {"end": "01:06:48", "start": "01:06:40", "text": "place. And if I can be happy in hell,"}, {"end": "01:06:51", "start": "01:06:44", "text": "well, I can be happy anywhere."}, {"end": "01:06:53", "start": "01:06:48", "text": "So, I'll leave it at that. Let me know"}, {"end": "01:06:57", "start": "01:06:51", "text": "your thoughts below. There's a lot to"}, {"end": "01:06:59", "start": "01:06:53", "text": "digest there. Some of this, you know,"}, {"end": "01:07:05", "start": "01:06:57", "text": "does"}, {"end": "01:07:07", "start": "01:06:59", "text": "feel somewhat like it could have legs."}, {"end": "01:07:09", "start": "01:07:05", "text": "You know, I again, I'm not here to ask"}, {"end": "01:07:10", "start": "01:07:07", "text": "you to believe or not to believe, and"}, {"end": "01:07:12", "start": "01:07:09", "text": "I'm not going to tell you whether or not"}, {"end": "01:07:14", "start": "01:07:10", "text": "I believe it or don't believe it, but I"}, {"end": "01:07:17", "start": "01:07:12", "text": "do feel like it's very interesting in"}, {"end": "01:07:20", "start": "01:07:14", "text": "that some of the concepts that have been"}, {"end": "01:07:22", "start": "01:07:17", "text": "talked about here, uh, were actually"}, {"end": "01:07:24", "start": "01:07:20", "text": "mentioned by the Farsight community, who"}, {"end": "01:07:26", "start": "01:07:22", "text": "I've looked into quite extensively"}, {"end": "01:07:28", "start": "01:07:24", "text": "recently, which is a group of like"}, {"end": "01:07:30", "start": "01:07:26", "text": "remote viewers that task themselves with"}, {"end": "01:07:32", "start": "01:07:28", "text": "certain things. They remote view this"}, {"end": "01:07:34", "start": "01:07:30", "text": "book, uh, for instance. they'll remote"}, {"end": "01:07:36", "start": "01:07:32", "text": "view Bob Lazar for instance and all"}, {"end": "01:07:38", "start": "01:07:34", "text": "these other things that are just out of"}, {"end": "01:07:40", "start": "01:07:36", "text": "our reach and then you know report on"}, {"end": "01:07:42", "start": "01:07:38", "text": "that and they have like different remote"}, {"end": "01:07:45", "start": "01:07:40", "text": "viewers. So a lot of the stuff that"}, {"end": "01:07:47", "start": "01:07:42", "text": "comes up in here you know has been"}, {"end": "01:07:51", "start": "01:07:45", "text": "corroborated by them and take that for"}, {"end": "01:07:53", "start": "01:07:47", "text": "what it's worth. A lot of other you know"}, {"end": "01:07:55", "start": "01:07:51", "text": "books when you look at Journey of Souls"}, {"end": "01:07:57", "start": "01:07:53", "text": "and you know you look at some of the"}, {"end": "01:08:00", "start": "01:07:55", "text": "stuff that uh Matt Brown the"}, {"end": "01:08:02", "start": "01:07:57", "text": "whistleblower has talked about. Yeah."}, {"end": "01:08:06", "start": "01:08:00", "text": "There just seems to be more and more"}, {"end": "01:08:10", "start": "01:08:02", "text": "corroborating evidence, but you know, is"}, {"end": "01:08:13", "start": "01:08:06", "text": "what it is. It's a story for now, maybe"}, {"end": "01:08:14", "start": "01:08:10", "text": "forever, but an interesting one at that."}, {"end": "01:08:18", "start": "01:08:13", "text": "Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you"}, {"end": "01:08:31", "start": "01:08:14", "text": "on the next video. Peace and love."}, {"end": "01:08:31", "start": "01:08:18", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:09", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "I was visiting my brother in Colorado"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:05", "text": "Springs and we were hiking on a trail up"}, {"end": "00:00:14", "start": "00:00:09", "text": "Cheyenne Mountain which is where you'll"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "find NORAD headquarters. As we were"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:14", "text": "walking up the mountain trail, this very"}, {"end": "00:00:22", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "elderly woman, white hair, etc. Um came"}, {"end": "00:00:24", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "walking down towards us. My brother at"}, {"end": "00:00:27", "start": "00:00:22", "text": "the time was telling me how him and his"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:24", "text": "friend saw some red orbs there late in"}, {"end": "00:00:31", "start": "00:00:27", "text": "the evening one day. Uh he said he"}, {"end": "00:00:33", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "really thought it was intelligent the"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:31", "text": "way they were moving around. As we"}, {"end": "00:00:37", "start": "00:00:33", "text": "passed the old lady, she said, \"You do"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "see strange things on the mountain"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:37", "text": "sometimes.\" And then headed further past"}, {"end": "00:00:45", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "us. We got about another half mile up"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "the trail and the same woman came"}, {"end": "00:00:51", "start": "00:00:45", "text": "walking from uphill and past us again."}, {"end": "00:00:54", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "We both just stopped stunned and watched"}, {"end": "00:00:56", "start": "00:00:51", "text": "her as she walked by. She tipped her hat"}, {"end": "00:00:58", "start": "00:00:54", "text": "and smiled and then stepped into the"}, {"end": "00:00:59", "start": "00:00:56", "text": "woods."}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:58", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:59", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"end": "00:01:04", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "Chris Ramsey. And today we're going to"}, {"end": "00:01:07", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "be taking a little bit of a break from"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:04", "text": "the Matilda Mroy story of the alien"}, {"end": "00:01:11", "start": "00:01:07", "text": "interview and this alien that they've"}, {"end": "00:01:13", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "captured at Roswell that told us that"}, {"end": "00:01:15", "start": "00:01:11", "text": "our souls are doomed prisoners that are"}, {"end": "00:01:18", "start": "00:01:13", "text": "stuck here for at least another 5,000"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:15", "text": "years. I thought we'd change it up a"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:18", "text": "little bit. Now, two reasons behind"}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "that. One, I think if I keep reading the"}, {"end": "00:01:27", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "book, it just at what point does it, you"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "know, become plagiarism? like I can't"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:27", "text": "just read the entire book. It's"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "definitely not my intellectual property"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "and it's not something I intended on"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "doing fully. I wanted to kind of dive"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "into some of the meteor parts of it and"}, {"end": "00:01:42", "start": "00:01:38", "text": "I think we were able to do that. Now, if"}, {"end": "00:01:44", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "you want to know how the story turns"}, {"end": "00:01:45", "start": "00:01:42", "text": "out, definitely buy the book. You know,"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:44", "text": "it's something I've always left in the"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:45", "text": "description. I encourage you guys to"}, {"end": "00:01:51", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "check it out and support the author or"}, {"end": "00:01:53", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "at least his estate at this point. And I"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:51", "text": "think it's time to move on to greener"}, {"end": "00:02:00", "start": "00:01:53", "text": "pastures, as they say. The second reason"}, {"end": "00:02:01", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "was I want to get into some other"}, {"end": "00:02:04", "start": "00:02:00", "text": "theories. I want to get into some other"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:01", "text": "things. I feel like the longer we"}, {"end": "00:02:12", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "spend locked in on this singular idea"}, {"end": "00:02:14", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "of, you know, this being a prison planet"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:12", "text": "and these bodies being sort of these"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:14", "text": "containers for our souls, which may or"}, {"end": "00:02:18", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "may not be true, by the way. I think the"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "more time we spend away from other"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:18", "text": "things that might also be true that we"}, {"end": "00:02:26", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "should be looking into namely and one"}, {"end": "00:02:28", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "thing that I wanted to get into on this"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:26", "text": "channel I think probably more than"}, {"end": "00:02:35", "start": "00:02:28", "text": "anything at all was the idea of talking"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "to experiencers and that's something I"}, {"end": "00:02:39", "start": "00:02:35", "text": "want to do more and more you know the"}, {"end": "00:02:41", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "people that have really inspired me"}, {"end": "00:02:44", "start": "00:02:39", "text": "throughout this journey have been those"}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:41", "text": "who've worked I think closely with"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:44", "text": "direct contact experiencers or you know"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "otherwise known as abductees in some"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "cases. People like Bud"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "Hopkins, John Mack, David Jacobs, even"}, {"end": "00:03:03", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "Linda Molton How. I think if you want to"}, {"end": "00:03:05", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "know what the inside of a UFO looks"}, {"end": "00:03:08", "start": "00:03:03", "text": "like, you could talk to people like Bob"}, {"end": "00:03:11", "start": "00:03:05", "text": "Lazar or perhaps other people working on"}, {"end": "00:03:13", "start": "00:03:08", "text": "the legacy program."}, {"end": "00:03:17", "start": "00:03:11", "text": "Or maybe, just"}, {"end": "00:03:21", "start": "00:03:13", "text": "maybe, you can hear out some of the tens"}, {"end": "00:03:23", "start": "00:03:17", "text": "of thousands of accounts of people who"}, {"end": "00:03:25", "start": "00:03:21", "text": "say that they were abducted and taken"}, {"end": "00:03:29", "start": "00:03:23", "text": "aboard these crafts. You know, I'm"}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:25", "text": "rereading the book Abductions by John"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:29", "text": "Mack, who is a Harvard trained"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "psychiatrist, and he really has a good"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "grasp on"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "obviously the human mind, and he's, I"}, {"end": "00:03:44", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "think, someone you can really reference"}, {"end": "00:03:46", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "when it comes to the abductions,"}, {"end": "00:03:49", "start": "00:03:44", "text": "especially because he definitely tackled"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:46", "text": "it from a skeptical point of view until"}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:49", "text": "he was faced with so much overwhelming"}, {"end": "00:03:57", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "human testimony and you know anecdotal"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "evidence but also physical evidence of"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:03:57", "text": "like markings uh from these experiencers"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "or abductees that he was forced to"}, {"end": "00:04:06", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "broaden his worldview and that's"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "something that he really eloquently"}, {"end": "00:04:11", "start": "00:04:06", "text": "states in his book is that there are"}, {"end": "00:04:13", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "three types of things three types of"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:11", "text": "directions you can go when you hear"}, {"end": "00:04:17", "start": "00:04:13", "text": "these accounts from these people. One"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "ignore it"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:17", "text": "completely."}, {"end": "00:04:25", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "to try to fit it into the current model"}, {"end": "00:04:28", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "that we have going. And that seems to be"}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:25", "text": "what most people end up doing is, oh,"}, {"end": "00:04:33", "start": "00:04:28", "text": "these people are just having a psychotic"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "break or experienced some physical"}, {"end": "00:04:38", "start": "00:04:33", "text": "trauma when they were younger or are"}, {"end": "00:04:41", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "hallucinating or have gone mad or are"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:38", "text": "making it up for money. This is how we"}, {"end": "00:04:46", "start": "00:04:41", "text": "fit that into our current model. Now,"}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "sometimes that might be the case, but"}, {"end": "00:04:52", "start": "00:04:46", "text": "when faced with so many cases of people"}, {"end": "00:04:54", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "who don't know each other saying the"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:52", "text": "same things that at the time were not"}, {"end": "00:04:59", "start": "00:04:54", "text": "reported on, were not publicly known or"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "widely understood among, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:04:59", "text": "public, these very, very niche ideas and"}, {"end": "00:05:10", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "frankly procedures that were being done."}, {"end": "00:05:12", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "You're forced to do the third thing."}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:10", "text": "you're forced to broaden your current"}, {"end": "00:05:18", "start": "00:05:12", "text": "model, broaden your perception of your"}, {"end": "00:05:21", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "world. You have no choice. And that's"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:18", "text": "something that John Mack faced. He felt"}, {"end": "00:05:26", "start": "00:05:21", "text": "with the overwhelming evidence, I think"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "he had a hundred cases over 3 years"}, {"end": "00:05:30", "start": "00:05:26", "text": "before he wrote this"}, {"end": "00:05:32", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "book. And he was convinced beyond a"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:30", "text": "shadow of a"}, {"end": "00:05:37", "start": "00:05:32", "text": "doubt that this was"}, {"end": "00:05:39", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "real. That we weren't just simply"}, {"end": "00:05:42", "start": "00:05:37", "text": "dealing with people who believed that it"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:39", "text": "was real. That we were dealing"}, {"end": "00:05:47", "start": "00:05:42", "text": "with this being a"}, {"end": "00:05:49", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "reality. These people were of sound"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:47", "text": "mind. Sure, some of them had traumas,"}, {"end": "00:05:54", "start": "00:05:49", "text": "some of them didn't. It wasn't a"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "particular type of person. It was kind"}, {"end": "00:06:00", "start": "00:05:54", "text": "of all around the spectrum"}, {"end": "00:06:02", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "of human as far as human characteristics"}, {"end": "00:06:05", "start": "00:06:00", "text": "and traits go. So really hard to"}, {"end": "00:06:10", "start": "00:06:02", "text": "pinpoint a psychological"}, {"end": "00:06:12", "start": "00:06:05", "text": "event on such a vast variety of people"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "like that. You can't just paint it with"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:12", "text": "a broad brush stroke. And so, yeah, he"}, {"end": "00:06:19", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "was forced to broaden his worldview and"}, {"end": "00:06:21", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "accept the fact that these instances of"}, {"end": "00:06:23", "start": "00:06:19", "text": "missing time, which is what he first got"}, {"end": "00:06:27", "start": "00:06:21", "text": "into with these"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:23", "text": "individuals, was a result"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:27", "text": "of some type of"}, {"end": "00:06:34", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "abduction by what seemed to be"}, {"end": "00:06:36", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "extraterrestrials. And today, folks, we"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:34", "text": "are going to look at just that. 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This"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "came out on Reddit"}, {"end": "00:07:36", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "uh four years ago, so"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "2021. There was a Reddit post under the"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:36", "text": "subreddit known as"}, {"end": "00:07:43", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "R/abductions. And this person"}, {"end": "00:07:47", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "uh"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:43", "text": "describes what they believe to be an"}, {"end": "00:07:53", "start": "00:07:47", "text": "abduction and not only an abduction, but"}, {"end": "00:07:55", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "a Q&A with these aliens. They allowed"}, {"end": "00:07:57", "start": "00:07:53", "text": "him to ask questions and he was allowed"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:55", "text": "to retain the memories and have the"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:57", "text": "answers. Hey, sorry for interrupting."}, {"end": "00:08:04", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "Um, I accidentally keep calling this"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "person a he. It's actually a she. I find"}, {"end": "00:08:09", "start": "00:08:04", "text": "that out later. I assumed it was a he."}, {"end": "00:08:12", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "Don't know why. So small. Just ignore"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:09", "text": "that. Ignore me. Go right back to Sorry."}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:12", "text": "Sorry for the interruption. Couldn't let"}, {"end": "00:08:18", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "it slide. All right. See you. Whether"}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "this is true or not is not up to me to"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:18", "text": "decide, but I would highly encourage you"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "guys to suspend your disbelief at least"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "for the next few, you know, maybe hour"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "or so. And let's give this a chance to"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "make its way into our subconscious and"}, {"end": "00:08:34", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "see if this rings true for us and"}, {"end": "00:08:37", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "perhaps gleans any truth on the"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:34", "text": "question, the broader question of uh ET"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:37", "text": "contact. I'm feeling good today. This"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "coffee is great. Everything's good."}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "We're rolling here. The title reads as"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "follows. My abductors helped me with my"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "anxiety and saved my parents' lives so I"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "can do a mission for"}, {"end": "00:08:57", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "them. Crazy bold statement. I'm hooked."}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "I'm listening. I've been questioning as"}, {"end": "00:09:01", "start": "00:08:57", "text": "to whether I've been abducted for the"}, {"end": "00:09:03", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "past few days, especially after making a"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:01", "text": "post about whether I've been abducted or"}, {"end": "00:09:07", "start": "00:09:03", "text": "not. But then, just as I was coming to"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "terms that I was abducted and wouldn't"}, {"end": "00:09:12", "start": "00:09:07", "text": "remember anything, the aliens I met"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "before came back."}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:12", "text": "At this point, I feel obligated to share"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "my story. So, here it"}, {"end": "00:09:23", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "is. Okay. So, let's just make a quick"}, {"end": "00:09:25", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "reference to the previous post in the"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:23", "text": "same subreddit coming out and saying, \"I"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:25", "text": "think I was abducted.\" He details the"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "time he saw Flying Saucer, which we'll"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "get into uh and all of this. And then"}, {"end": "00:09:36", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "several days later after posting that,"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "apparently he was contacted and"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:36", "text": "confirmed and given his memories back."}, {"end": "00:09:42", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "Okay. Highly suspicious off the bat. I"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "agree."}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:42", "text": "But let's hear it out. Truth is often"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "stranger than fiction, and I'm not going"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "to dismiss it just yet. So, let's keep"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "reading. P.S., this is a bit of a long"}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "story since it chronicles my entire"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "abduction experiences up to this point."}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "This isn't even getting into the absurd"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "and possibly alien experiences that my"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "family has witnessed. Regardless, this"}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "post will take a while, so be prepared"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "to read. Oh, we're prepared. We've been"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "prepared. PSS, I don't remember the"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "exact exact dialogue. I simply restated"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "the dialogue in the best I could"}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "remember. Fair enough. To start, my"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "first abduction happened when I was 10"}, {"end": "00:10:31", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "back in July of 2013. I snuck outside to"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "my backyard to look at the stars, which"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:31", "text": "I often did when I was young since space"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "has always fascinated me, even"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "today. That was when I saw it. Through"}, {"end": "00:10:44", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "the couple of clouds in the sky that"}, {"end": "00:10:48", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "day, I saw the bottom of a saucer with"}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:44", "text": "its lights shining on me. Initially, I"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:48", "text": "didn't remember anything. After that, I"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "woke up several hours later in my bed,"}, {"end": "00:10:57", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "just confused. But, as discussed later"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "on in the story, I was given my memories"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:57", "text": "back, and I can describe what this"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "abduction entailed. The next thing I"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "knew, I was within a rather large room,"}, {"end": "00:11:10", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "which I could assume is within the"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "saucer itself. Here's a recreation of"}, {"end": "00:11:13", "start": "00:11:10", "text": "what the room looked like. And this is"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "pretty cool because we do have an"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:13", "text": "instance here, you know, just like Joe"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "McMongle, the famous remote viewer, also"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "was a really good artist, he was able,"}, {"end": "00:11:24", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "his renditions of his remote viewings"}, {"end": "00:11:27", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "were so precise and exact because of his"}, {"end": "00:11:29", "start": "00:11:24", "text": "artistic skill, you know, that it really"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:27", "text": "helped out with a lot of his work. But"}, {"end": "00:11:34", "start": "00:11:29", "text": "in this case, we do also have an artist."}, {"end": "00:11:37", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "Uh, this person does digital art and is"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:34", "text": "able to provide us with more than just"}, {"end": "00:11:41", "start": "00:11:37", "text": "some weird sketch. Like, if I drew out"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "maybe something that I'd experience,"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:41", "text": "it'd look like a 2-year-old drew it. But"}, {"end": "00:11:46", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "this person has has more skill than"}, {"end": "00:11:49", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "that. So, here's the first image, and"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:46", "text": "this is of inside the saucer. So, we're"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:49", "text": "looking at a pretty barren, large white"}, {"end": "00:11:59", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "room. Uh, no real features to reference."}, {"end": "00:12:01", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "pretty much simple circular white room"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:59", "text": "with nothing in it and a single curve"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:01", "text": "connecting the floor to the ceiling."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Although there was no visible light"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "source, it seemed as though there was"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "light coming from the center of the"}, {"end": "00:12:16", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "floor and the ceiling. Once again, we"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "find ourselves inside a barren, cold,"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:16", "text": "almost lablike environment. Very"}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "sterile, you know, perfect for a"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "procedure, if you will, but also echoes"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "some of what the 4chan whistleblower was"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "talking about when these things were"}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "built to spec. No extra things. You"}, {"end": "00:12:35", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "there aren't any doors or any weird, you"}, {"end": "00:12:37", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "know, there's no artwork. There are"}, {"end": "00:12:39", "start": "00:12:35", "text": "there aren't any stools just sitting"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:37", "text": "around. Everything is there because it"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:39", "text": "has a purpose. And if the purpose isn't"}, {"end": "00:12:45", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "to do anything extra, then those extra"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "things are not there. They're not even"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:45", "text": "there just in case. It's very"}, {"end": "00:12:53", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "missionoriented, it seems. There I was"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "on a steel table, face up and"}, {"end": "00:12:58", "start": "00:12:53", "text": "paralyzed. Four short grays around me"}, {"end": "00:13:01", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "and were using strange metal tools,"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:12:58", "text": "mostly tools that looked like small"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:01", "text": "steel rods, but they had a lot of them"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "in their hands. If you're curious about"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "how the grays look, they look very"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "similar to the cover of the book"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "Communion. As we all know Whitley"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "Strieber's famous book Communion, yeah,"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "typically that is a depiction of the"}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "grays. Now, it's interesting because the"}, {"end": "00:13:26", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "smaller grays in a lot of these books,"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "especially David Jacobs, he touches on"}, {"end": "00:13:31", "start": "00:13:26", "text": "this quite a bit in that the smaller"}, {"end": "00:13:34", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "grays seem very much sort of task"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:31", "text": "oriented and almost like they do the"}, {"end": "00:13:39", "start": "00:13:34", "text": "grunt work. Now, they still have the"}, {"end": "00:13:42", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "ability to be psychic apparently, but"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "they're the ones who will undress the"}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:42", "text": "abductee in a lot of these cases. or if"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "the abductee gets scared and"}, {"end": "00:13:53", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "accidentally, you know, urinates on the"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "floor due to sheer terror and fear."}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:53", "text": "Well, these guys are going to be the"}, {"end": "00:13:59", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "ones mopping it up and they do that. And"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "so they do all these little menial"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:13:59", "text": "tasks. Um, and then the taller ones"}, {"end": "00:14:07", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "usually come in for the proceduring."}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "They moved their tools around my chest"}, {"end": "00:14:12", "start": "00:14:07", "text": "and stuck tools up my nostrils and ears."}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "They also pointed green lasers at my"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:12", "text": "eyes and stuck needles into my"}, {"end": "00:14:20", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "forehead. Very interesting. All things"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "that you hear about, but never at once."}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:20", "text": "So, that is kind of interesting. The"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "Long Rods, by the way, is definitely"}, {"end": "00:14:29", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "something that has existed. Now, what's"}, {"end": "00:14:32", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "interesting is that there's this old"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:29", "text": "Gumby episode, and I I've I think I've"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:32", "text": "played this before in the past, where"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "Gumby gets abducted, and it is your"}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "quintessential abduction scenario with"}, {"end": "00:14:48", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "the Grays. And they also say, \"We've"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "exchanged abductions to help our future"}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:48", "text": "selves, and we've given you technology"}, {"end": "00:14:56", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "in exchange. Wildly deep episode of"}, {"end": "00:14:58", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "Gumby.\" Uh, but they do also hold this"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:56", "text": "long rod, which I think Whitley touches"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:58", "text": "on. I think there's a lot of abductees"}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "that that talk about this rod and"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "sticking things well up, you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:12", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "people's nostrils. It hurt a lot. I was"}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "hyperventilating in pain, in confusion,"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:12", "text": "in fear. It felt traumatic at first, but"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "then all the pain stopped when I heard"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "it."}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "Calm down, my sweet child, rang in my"}, {"end": "00:15:30", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "mind. It was a telepathic"}, {"end": "00:15:34", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "message. Through the wall, a tall gray"}, {"end": "00:15:37", "start": "00:15:30", "text": "phased through a floating white chair."}, {"end": "00:15:40", "start": "00:15:34", "text": "She wore a long, long dress with the"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:37", "text": "same shade of royal blue as the shorter"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:40", "text": "grays. She was looking right at me. I"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "knew the voice came from her"}, {"end": "00:15:54", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "somehow. Upon her saying that, all fear"}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "and pain washed away from my body. Even"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:54", "text": "though there were tools and needles in"}, {"end": "00:16:02", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "my head at that point, I felt calm,"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "happy, comfortable even."}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:02", "text": "Now, this is very interesting cuz here"}, {"end": "00:16:10", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "we sort of, you know, touch on a little"}, {"end": "00:16:12", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "bit of this female entity again that was"}, {"end": "00:16:13", "start": "00:16:10", "text": "described by Whitley Strieber and so"}, {"end": "00:16:18", "start": "00:16:12", "text": "many others."}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:13", "text": "Um, you have a taller like Gray that"}, {"end": "00:16:23", "start": "00:16:18", "text": "seems to be somewhat in charge at least"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "of the procedure. It stayed like that"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:23", "text": "for what felt like a couple more"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "minutes. With me happy, the woman"}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "staring at me and the four grays"}, {"end": "00:16:35", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "touching my head with tools. Eventually"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "though, the four grays stopped working"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:35", "text": "on me. I, still paralyzed, suddenly"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "started being lifted in the air. The"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "bottom of the room lit up in a blinding"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "light, and before I knew it, I was back"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "in my backyard. Except this time, I was"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "levitating in the air while the four"}, {"end": "00:16:56", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "grays before were nearby me. It was"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "still nighttime when the grays walked"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:56", "text": "towards my house. They opened my back"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "door without even touching it and"}, {"end": "00:17:06", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "levitated both me and themselves through"}, {"end": "00:17:09", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "the house. Soon enough, they placed me"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:06", "text": "in my bed, causing me to fall asleep. I"}, {"end": "00:17:13", "start": "00:17:09", "text": "woke up at 5:00 a.m. sleeping on my back"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "in my bed while my sheets were"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:13", "text": "straightened, which isn't normal at all."}, {"end": "00:17:19", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "I normally sleep on my side and my"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "sheets aren't straightened when I wake"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:19", "text": "up. This is something that shows up"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "quite a bit as well uh in abductions."}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "You hear about people who've gone"}, {"end": "00:17:31", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "camping and suddenly wake up, their"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "clothes are outside or their pants are"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:31", "text": "on backwards or their shoes are on the"}, {"end": "00:17:36", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "wrong feet or their shoes have dirt on"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "them and they're in their bed like kind"}, {"end": "00:17:41", "start": "00:17:36", "text": "of a botched operation. Sometimes they"}, {"end": "00:17:43", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "they they don't know exactly that we're"}, {"end": "00:17:44", "start": "00:17:41", "text": "creatures of habit and will recognize"}, {"end": "00:17:47", "start": "00:17:43", "text": "these things. Between my first and"}, {"end": "00:17:49", "start": "00:17:44", "text": "second abduction, I had nightmares,"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:47", "text": "repeated nightmares. Looking back, many"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "of these nightmares depicted a distorted"}, {"end": "00:17:56", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "form of my first abduction. However, my"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "memories were initially wiped of my"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:56", "text": "first abduction, so I wasn't able to"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "figure out the source of these strange"}, {"end": "00:18:04", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "nightmares. Often times, my nightmares"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "featured me being in a dark room pursued"}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:04", "text": "by shadowy figures and being entirely"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "helpless. Interesting little uh moment"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "here because so many experiencers"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "whether abductees or whether just people"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "who uh meet come in contact with these"}, {"end": "00:18:22", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "beings depict some of sometimes they"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "depict them having blurry faces or"}, {"end": "00:18:27", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "wearing a mask or being shadowy almost"}, {"end": "00:18:30", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "like there is some type of"}, {"end": "00:18:32", "start": "00:18:27", "text": "psychic alteration that they're capable"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "of doing. like they don't actually have"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "to wear a mask, that they can just"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "change your perception of them in a way"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "that distorts your memory of"}, {"end": "00:18:43", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "them. Everything changed though when I"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "learned how to lucid dream at age 13."}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:43", "text": "Being sick of nightmares, I searched for"}, {"end": "00:18:48", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "ways online to try to get rid of"}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "nightmares. And one of those things was"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:48", "text": "lucid dreaming. For whatever reason, I"}, {"end": "00:18:55", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "picked up lucid dreaming absurdly quick."}, {"end": "00:18:57", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "I had sleep paralysis, but only twice"}, {"end": "00:19:00", "start": "00:18:55", "text": "before I learned how to lucid dream"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:57", "text": "nearly consistently. Within a month, I"}, {"end": "00:19:05", "start": "00:19:00", "text": "went from having constant uncontrollable"}, {"end": "00:19:08", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "nightmares to having pleasant lucid"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:05", "text": "dreams almost every night. If you're"}, {"end": "00:19:11", "start": "00:19:08", "text": "someone out there that suffers from"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "sleep paralysis, there definitely is a"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:11", "text": "lot of literature on how to roll out of"}, {"end": "00:19:20", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "that because you're essentially in the"}, {"end": "00:19:21", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "out-of body state. You just don't know"}, {"end": "00:19:23", "start": "00:19:20", "text": "how to leave your body. So, you're kind"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:21", "text": "of confined and panicking. But"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:23", "text": "apparently, there's some there's some"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "work there that you guys can look into."}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "I've never had sleep paralysis. I have"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "had multiple out of- body experiences,"}, {"end": "00:19:34", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "but I know that that even those out-of-"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "body experiences are terrifying. So, I"}, {"end": "00:19:38", "start": "00:19:34", "text": "can imagine how much more so it would be"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "if you couldn't move during that event."}, {"end": "00:19:41", "start": "00:19:38", "text": "How you guys liking this so far? I think"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "this is"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:41", "text": "interesting. For unknown reasons, I also"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "began to have dreams that predicted the"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "future. Most often, they would depict a"}, {"end": "00:19:52", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "storm like a tornado or thunderstorm"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "about 3 days before some of these storms"}, {"end": "00:19:57", "start": "00:19:52", "text": "appeared. I've also had dreams predict"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "the bodies but not faces of people I"}, {"end": "00:20:02", "start": "00:19:57", "text": "would meet in the future and my"}, {"end": "00:20:05", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "relationship with them. Most often"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:02", "text": "friends and even dreams predict rooms"}, {"end": "00:20:11", "start": "00:20:05", "text": "that I'd be in despite me having never"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "been in said rooms. These clairvoyant"}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:11", "text": "dreams happened once every couple of"}, {"end": "00:20:16", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "weeks"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "uncontrollably and would feel stronger"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:16", "text": "than a normal dream and or even a lucid"}, {"end": "00:20:23", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "dream. Regardless, as time went on, I"}, {"end": "00:20:26", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "improved my lucid dreaming skills more"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:23", "text": "and more over the next few years. As I"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:26", "text": "grew to ages 14, 15, and 16, my control"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "over my dreams became stronger and more"}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "effortless. Now, that seems to track if"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "you're into lucid dreaming. It it is"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "something you can practice. There's work"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "by a parasychologist uh by the name of"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "Rupert Sheldrake as well that really"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "talks about how some dreams have"}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "precognitive elements in them and that"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "he encourages dream"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "journaling which is basically keeping a"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "journal by your bedside and any"}, {"end": "00:20:58", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "recollection you have of the dream just"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "write it down because those memories"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:58", "text": "fade pretty quickly as I'm sure most of"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "you know and that if you jot down some"}, {"end": "00:21:07", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "of the elements that are present in"}, {"end": "00:21:09", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "these dreams you might find that some of"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:07", "text": "them might actually end up being"}, {"end": "00:21:13", "start": "00:21:09", "text": "precognitive, meaning they predict"}, {"end": "00:21:15", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "things that will happen. We've also seen"}, {"end": "00:21:18", "start": "00:21:13", "text": "precognitive events in out-of- body"}, {"end": "00:21:20", "start": "00:21:15", "text": "states. Uh I made a three-part series on"}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:18", "text": "the gateway and leaving your body. In"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:20", "text": "the third part, we talked to Graham"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "Nichols who left his body and during"}, {"end": "00:21:30", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "then witnessed an explosion on Old"}, {"end": "00:21:32", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "Compton Street in London. This was"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:30", "text": "witnessed by five other people that he"}, {"end": "00:21:37", "start": "00:21:32", "text": "told five other people about this and"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "then 5 days later an actual bomb"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:37", "text": "exploded at that very location in the"}, {"end": "00:21:43", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "pub that he said it was going to explode"}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "in. I don't dismiss the"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:43", "text": "precognitive idea so quickly. This is"}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "going to be the forefront of science in"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "a few years. I guarantee it. Then came"}, {"end": "00:21:55", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "my second abduction. I went to sleep on"}, {"end": "00:21:59", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "the night of April or May 2019. I was 16"}, {"end": "00:22:02", "start": "00:21:55", "text": "then. At the time, I had papers stuck in"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:59", "text": "my right ear. A bit of a weird story,"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:02", "text": "but I have hearing I have a hearing"}, {"end": "00:22:07", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "sensitivity due to my autism. And before"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "I chose to get noiseancelling"}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:07", "text": "headphones, I would block out noise by"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "covering my ears with crumpled paper."}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "One of the crumpled bits got stuck in my"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "right ear, though. So, oops. Anyways,"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "unlike last time where I was conscious"}, {"end": "00:22:24", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "on my trip from the craft, I simply"}, {"end": "00:22:27", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "appeared standing in a small corridor of"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:24", "text": "sorts. At first, I tried to check if I"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:27", "text": "was dreaming, which I do by attempting"}, {"end": "00:22:34", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "to manipulate the world, checking my"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "hands to see if they look normal, etc."}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:34", "text": "But to my surprise, it seemed as though"}, {"end": "00:22:41", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "I wasn't dreaming. To my left of that"}, {"end": "00:22:44", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "corridor was a wall of several switches,"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:41", "text": "lights, and latches. It looked sort of"}, {"end": "00:22:49", "start": "00:22:44", "text": "similar to the front of a really old"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "computer of sorts. Naturally, I didn't"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:49", "text": "bother touching any of them. To the"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "right were two short grays. standing"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "there in the same blue jumpsuits that I"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "saw them before. I felt terrified at"}, {"end": "00:23:02", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "first, of course, especially since I"}, {"end": "00:23:05", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "forgot about my first abduction at that"}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:02", "text": "point, but then I saw the tall alien I"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:05", "text": "met before telepathically saying the"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "same things she said before. Calm down,"}, {"end": "00:23:16", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "my sweet child. My sweet little child."}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "My fear washed away as the two aliens"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:16", "text": "and I walked towards her. The room we"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "were in looked exactly like my abduction"}, {"end": "00:23:26", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "room, except I had four beige doors that"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "looked like this. These doors are"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:26", "text": "capable of sliding upwards for someone"}, {"end": "00:23:34", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "to go through them. The two aliens took"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "similar metal tools to the ones they"}, {"end": "00:23:37", "start": "00:23:34", "text": "used last time, although they didn't"}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "stick any needles into my head or"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:37", "text": "anything. They just quickly move the"}, {"end": "00:23:43", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "tools around my body. The gray on the"}, {"end": "00:23:45", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "right did notice something in my right"}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:43", "text": "ear, though, and reached in using these"}, {"end": "00:23:52", "start": "00:23:45", "text": "metal clamps to pull it out. My first"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "thought was, \"Who are you and what am I"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:52", "text": "doing here?\" Which she responded with,"}, {"end": "00:24:00", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "\"I am your watcher. I will answer your"}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "other questions later.\""}, {"end": "00:24:05", "start": "00:24:00", "text": "\"Now follow me,\" she telepathically"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "said, and I followed her through a beige"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:05", "text": "door that opened by sliding upwards. The"}, {"end": "00:24:13", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "window showed outer space. It looked"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "beautiful, but it was more or less"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:13", "text": "space. My watcher told me to look at"}, {"end": "00:24:21", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "her, which I followed obediently."}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "Staring into her big, deep eyes, I can"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:21", "text": "tell her eyes weren't just pure black,"}, {"end": "00:24:30", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "but were rather a very, very dark blue."}, {"end": "00:24:33", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "Her skin was also relatively a bit more"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:30", "text": "green compared to the other shorter"}, {"end": "00:24:37", "start": "00:24:33", "text": "grays I saw"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "earlier. After staring into her eyes for"}, {"end": "00:24:43", "start": "00:24:37", "text": "a bit, she then said that now you can"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "see. I looked back through the window"}, {"end": "00:24:50", "start": "00:24:43", "text": "and my goodness, it was space, but far,"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "far more magical. It looked like your"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:50", "text": "typical artist's painting you'd see when"}, {"end": "00:24:59", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "searching up HD wallpapers of space, but"}, {"end": "00:25:01", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "somehow even better than that. It's like"}, {"end": "00:25:04", "start": "00:24:59", "text": "I could see red-like hues, green and"}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:25:01", "text": "yellow like hues, and purple like hues"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:04", "text": "that were hues that you normally"}, {"end": "00:25:12", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "couldn't see in real life. My watcher"}, {"end": "00:25:15", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "told me that this is what I could see if"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:12", "text": "I could master my mind. I then woke up"}, {"end": "00:25:20", "start": "00:25:15", "text": "laying on my back with straightened"}, {"end": "00:25:21", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "sheets once again. At the time, I woke"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:20", "text": "up with no memory of what actually"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:21", "text": "occurred, although I did notice later"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "that day that the paper stuck in my"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "right ear was completely gone. In"}, {"end": "00:25:32", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "addition, in the following years, I"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "would have lucid dreams where I could"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:32", "text": "see colors I couldn't see in real life."}, {"end": "00:25:40", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "I was never sure where these dreams came"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "from or why they happened, at least not"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:40", "text": "until recently. So, let's pause here for"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "a second. I do have a base theory"}, {"end": "00:25:50", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "running currently or a hypothesis that"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "I'm kind of putting together based on a"}, {"end": "00:25:54", "start": "00:25:50", "text": "lot of research and a lot of stories and"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "and everything else. And something"}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:54", "text": "really rings true to me, which I'll"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "eventually get into more deeply once"}, {"end": "00:26:01", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "I've really rounded off, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:26:04", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "uh the jagged corners of this"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:01", "text": "hypothesis. But I believe to a certain"}, {"end": "00:26:09", "start": "00:26:04", "text": "extent that we are interacting with a"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "system that we're not directly"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:09", "text": "interacting with the intelligence behind"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "the system, but that this system does"}, {"end": "00:26:17", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "have an"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "intelligence, just not one like you or"}, {"end": "00:26:23", "start": "00:26:17", "text": "me. It's an automated system. I think"}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "it's very procedural. And this system,"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:23", "text": "you know, could be around for many"}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "different reasons at the same time,"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "including possibly manipulating or"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "maintaining the, you know, human"}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "presence on this earth, among so many"}, {"end": "00:26:39", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "other things. Maybe even the flora and"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "fauna and all sorts of other things. But"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:39", "text": "I I think that that's kind of maybe what"}, {"end": "00:26:48", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "we're interacting with 50% of the time"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "is this system. This system has these"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:48", "text": "beings, these genderless beings that"}, {"end": "00:26:55", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "seem task oriented, that you know do"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "these mundane tasks. They also have"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:55", "text": "these larger beings that seem a little"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "bit more empathetic, that are able to"}, {"end": "00:27:05", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "psychically calm you down, that are"}, {"end": "00:27:08", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "almost there to reassure you constantly"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:05", "text": "so that the trauma perhaps doesn't"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:08", "text": "affect, you know, the test subject."}, {"end": "00:27:16", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "You know, if you go into an enclosure"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "with a panda, a lot of times they dress"}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:16", "text": "up as pandas, not to alarm them, you"}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "know, and they don't want to affect"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "their natural habitat because they want"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "that natural state to develop without"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "their"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "interference. And so maybe they're just"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "trying to calm us down, right, and like"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "wipe our memories so that everything"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "remains. And they've seen that, you"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "know, if they don't do that, there's"}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "trauma and it kind of affects the"}, {"end": "00:27:42", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "subject. But anyways, so really three"}, {"end": "00:27:45", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "things"}, {"end": "00:27:47", "start": "00:27:42", "text": "happen in three things that happen"}, {"end": "00:27:50", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "across the board with the abduction"}, {"end": "00:27:52", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "concerning these type of"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:50", "text": "extraterrestrials. You know, in regards"}, {"end": "00:27:56", "start": "00:27:52", "text": "to this system, it seems like three"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "things happen. One, you get taken and"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:56", "text": "experimented on. And and I don't mean"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "experimented as in they don't know what"}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "they're doing. I mean there there are"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "procedures that happen. And there are a"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "variety of procedures that seem to be"}, {"end": "00:28:10", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "the same uh among abductees but"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "different between male and female."}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:10", "text": "Troubling procedures that do"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "happen. Number two, after the procedure"}, {"end": "00:28:21", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "is done, you're given a"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "tour of the ship. A lot of"}, {"end": "00:28:28", "start": "00:28:21", "text": "times people are given a tour of the"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "ship and are shown beautiful things."}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:28", "text": "Kind of what's happening right now. Even"}, {"end": "00:28:34", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "in the case of Chris Bledsoe, he was"}, {"end": "00:28:35", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "given the tour where he said he was in a"}, {"end": "00:28:37", "start": "00:28:34", "text": "bubble looking around. They showed him"}, {"end": "00:28:40", "start": "00:28:35", "text": "the pyramids. They showed him all these"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:37", "text": "beautiful things on Earth. These tours"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:40", "text": "happen across the board again. And the"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "last thing they do, and I don't know if"}, {"end": "00:28:50", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "that's what we're going to get into, but"}, {"end": "00:28:53", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "the last thing they do is they show you"}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:50", "text": "terrible things. They show you nuclear"}, {"end": "00:28:59", "start": "00:28:53", "text": "blasts and famine and war. And you know"}, {"end": "00:29:02", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "if you go back to Rua Zimbabwe, the"}, {"end": "00:29:04", "start": "00:28:59", "text": "children um that witnessed the 60s some"}, {"end": "00:29:06", "start": "00:29:02", "text": "odd children that had witnessed this"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:04", "text": "craft land and these beings come out and"}, {"end": "00:29:12", "start": "00:29:06", "text": "they were you know psychically shown"}, {"end": "00:29:14", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "these images of the world ending and so"}, {"end": "00:29:17", "start": "00:29:12", "text": "many other abductees again including"}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:14", "text": "Chris Bledsoe were shown these terrible"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:17", "text": "things as if saying look what you're"}, {"end": "00:29:25", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "doing smarten up you need to change. It"}, {"end": "00:29:27", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "seems like that is pretty par for the"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:25", "text": "course and it seems like it might be an"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:27", "text": "automated system at this point because I"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "think a lot it's it's too"}, {"end": "00:29:39", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "frequent and it gives"}, {"end": "00:29:43", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "nothing. I I suppose it adds reassurance"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:39", "text": "to the person who was taken in that,"}, {"end": "00:29:46", "start": "00:29:43", "text": "hey, look, we're doing this for the"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "greater good and we're actually taking"}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:46", "text": "care of you and sort of leaving you with"}, {"end": "00:29:54", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "not such a foul taste in your mouth and"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "perhaps to some extent justifying the"}, {"end": "00:29:59", "start": "00:29:54", "text": "terrible things that they're doing to"}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "us. Like, no, we're not the bad guys."}, {"end": "00:30:04", "start": "00:29:59", "text": "You're the bad guys. We're just trying"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "to help you here. Look how bad you are."}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:04", "text": "And then we kind of leave being grateful"}, {"end": "00:30:10", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "and thankful for the uh horrendous"}, {"end": "00:30:12", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "procedures that were just done and the"}, {"end": "00:30:16", "start": "00:30:10", "text": "fact that we were stolen out of our"}, {"end": "00:30:18", "start": "00:30:12", "text": "beds. Um you know and so it does seem to"}, {"end": "00:30:20", "start": "00:30:16", "text": "be like some weird automated system. The"}, {"end": "00:30:22", "start": "00:30:18", "text": "second reason I believe that is because"}, {"end": "00:30:23", "start": "00:30:20", "text": "what what what has come from that? What"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:22", "text": "has come from showing any of these"}, {"end": "00:30:28", "start": "00:30:23", "text": "people the end of the world? Nothing."}, {"end": "00:30:31", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "These people will they they don't go on"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:28", "text": "to you know change the laws or or what"}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:31", "text": "what they grow up to to speak at"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "conferences to to other people who are"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "interested in UFOs or they get so"}, {"end": "00:30:43", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "psychologically traumatized that they"}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "become reclusive and we don't hear about"}, {"end": "00:30:49", "start": "00:30:43", "text": "them. So surely they know that telling"}, {"end": "00:30:51", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "us these things won't change the world."}, {"end": "00:30:53", "start": "00:30:49", "text": "Why continue to do it? Well, the answer"}, {"end": "00:30:56", "start": "00:30:51", "text": "is it's probably just"}, {"end": "00:30:59", "start": "00:30:53", "text": "programming hypothesis"}, {"end": "00:31:02", "start": "00:30:56", "text": "only. Sorry for that"}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:30:59", "text": "uh parenthesis, that large parenthesis,"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:02", "text": "but this is something I've been thinking"}, {"end": "00:31:07", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "about quite a bit after reading, you"}, {"end": "00:31:09", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "know, a lot of books on it. And it does"}, {"end": "00:31:11", "start": "00:31:07", "text": "seem to match up in a certain way. But"}, {"end": "00:31:14", "start": "00:31:09", "text": "let's see what this gentleman or I don't"}, {"end": "00:31:16", "start": "00:31:11", "text": "even know, is this male or female? What"}, {"end": "00:31:18", "start": "00:31:14", "text": "this person has to say? 3 years later,"}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:16", "text": "19 years old, I was abducted about 1:00"}, {"end": "00:31:22", "start": "00:31:18", "text": "a.m. on October 30th, 2021, when the"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "third abduction occurred. At this point"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:22", "text": "in time, I was beginning to research"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "about the UFO and UAP phenomena out of"}, {"end": "00:31:30", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "curiosity for the past month. Over time,"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "however, I began to piece together that"}, {"end": "00:31:35", "start": "00:31:30", "text": "maybe, just maybe, a lot of weird things"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "had occurred in my life, from my"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:35", "text": "nightmares to my family's"}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "experiences and being able to see"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "strange shadow entities, among other"}, {"end": "00:31:46", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "issues, was entirely because of me being"}, {"end": "00:31:49", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "abducted. As I was walking downstairs to"}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:46", "text": "get a midnight snack, I saw the tall"}, {"end": "00:31:53", "start": "00:31:49", "text": "alien, my"}, {"end": "00:31:56", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "watcher, standing right by my front"}, {"end": "00:31:59", "start": "00:31:53", "text": "door. Judging by the height of the door"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:56", "text": "that I measured after the abduction, I"}, {"end": "00:32:07", "start": "00:31:59", "text": "could tell that she's about 7'2 or 7"}, {"end": "00:32:09", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "foot 3, so 2.18 to 2.21 m tall. Despite"}, {"end": "00:32:12", "start": "00:32:07", "text": "seeing an unwanted being in my house,"}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:09", "text": "seeing her made me feel calm somehow. As"}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:12", "text": "I heard the same phrase I heard before"}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "in my head, \"Calm down, my sweet little"}, {"end": "00:32:19", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "child.\""}, {"end": "00:32:27", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "Wanting to get evidence, I lifted up my"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:24", "text": "phone, which was in my hand at the time,"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:27", "text": "and rushed to turn it on. But the"}, {"end": "00:32:34", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "instant I even thought to capture her on"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "camera, she vanished."}, {"end": "00:32:40", "start": "00:32:34", "text": "\"Come downstairs,\" I heard in my"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "mind. I came downstairs, albeit"}, {"end": "00:32:44", "start": "00:32:40", "text": "cautiously. I had my phone on to capture"}, {"end": "00:32:46", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "them on camera and was ready to yell to"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:44", "text": "wake up my parents if anything bad"}, {"end": "00:32:50", "start": "00:32:46", "text": "happened. The second I walked into my"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:47", "text": "kitchen though, I saw four short grays I"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:50", "text": "saw earlier, and my vision blanked out."}, {"end": "00:32:57", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "My first thought was to check if this"}, {"end": "00:32:59", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "was a dream by checking if my hands"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:57", "text": "looked normal than trying to manipulate"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:59", "text": "the world around me. I'm a pretty good"}, {"end": "00:33:05", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "lucid dreamer at this point, so I"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "figured out how to discern dreams from"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:05", "text": "reality. Both checks, however, seemed to"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "suggest that this was in some way"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "reality. My watcher said, \"Look at me.\""}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "and I looked. As she stared into my eyes"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "and I into hers, my forgotten memories"}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "of my past abductions came flooding"}, {"end": "00:33:27", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "back. I am your watcher. Her voice"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "echoed in my mind. But you can call me"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:27", "text": "mama. After that, I felt dizzy for a"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "bit. She continued to stare at me while"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "I had to close my eyes. Over the next"}, {"end": "00:33:40", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "couple of seconds, a dozen thoughts a"}, {"end": "00:33:42", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "second rushed into my mind. I answered"}, {"end": "00:33:45", "start": "00:33:40", "text": "all of your questions, she said"}, {"end": "00:33:46", "start": "00:33:42", "text": "telepathically in her soothing voice."}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:45", "text": "I'll list these questions and answers"}, {"end": "00:33:51", "start": "00:33:46", "text": "towards the end of the post to let the"}, {"end": "00:33:53", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "story continue. She then told me through"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:51", "text": "a separate telepathic message that we're"}, {"end": "00:33:59", "start": "00:33:53", "text": "contacting you because your family has"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "great psionic potential. However, your"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:59", "text": "anxiety is getting in the way. She"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "lifted me up in the air without lifting"}, {"end": "00:34:08", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "a finger and moved me across the room"}, {"end": "00:34:11", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "onto her lap, cradling me like a baby."}, {"end": "00:34:15", "start": "00:34:08", "text": "Look at me again. Looking into her deep,"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:11", "text": "dark blue eyes, I heard her in my mind"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:15", "text": "say, \"Calm down, my sweet little child.\""}, {"end": "00:34:22", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "Or should I say, \"Calm down, my sweet"}, {"end": "00:34:24", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "little girl.\" I must have had a positive"}, {"end": "00:34:26", "start": "00:34:22", "text": "reaction to the latter because she"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:24", "text": "started repeating, \"Calm down, my sweet"}, {"end": "00:34:31", "start": "00:34:26", "text": "little girl.\" in my head over and over"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "and over again. It felt soothing and"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:31", "text": "euphoric, like I've never felt this"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "comfortable in my entire life."}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "Eventually, what seemed like hours, she"}, {"end": "00:34:44", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "said, \"If you ever get scared or feel"}, {"end": "00:34:47", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "pain, just think of me, your mama.\""}, {"end": "00:34:50", "start": "00:34:44", "text": "Okay. The last words I heard before I"}, {"end": "00:34:53", "start": "00:34:47", "text": "fell asleep in her arms was, \"I need to"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:50", "text": "learn astral projection next. We'll come"}, {"end": "00:34:57", "start": "00:34:53", "text": "back once you mastered"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "that.\""}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:57", "text": "Um, weird. The whole mama thing is super"}, {"end": "00:35:05", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "weird, but the whole Yeah. The I I guess"}, {"end": "00:35:10", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "the whole motherly feminine"}, {"end": "00:35:13", "start": "00:35:05", "text": "energy perhaps is something that they"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:10", "text": "feel deep down. It's what would soothe"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:13", "text": "us the most is like the voice of a"}, {"end": "00:35:23", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "mother cradling you. I think that would"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "be the best way to calm anyone down. I"}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "couldn't think of a better way of"}, {"end": "00:35:27", "start": "00:35:24", "text": "feeling more comfortable than the"}, {"end": "00:35:29", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "feeling of, you know, your mother"}, {"end": "00:35:32", "start": "00:35:27", "text": "cradling you, telling you it's going to"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:29", "text": "be fine. Interesting strategy here to uh"}, {"end": "00:35:38", "start": "00:35:32", "text": "calm down the human. Suddenly, I woke up"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "on the couch in my family room at 2:30"}, {"end": "00:35:41", "start": "00:35:38", "text": "a.m., which was weird since I didn't"}, {"end": "00:35:43", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "even enter my family room from my"}, {"end": "00:35:45", "start": "00:35:41", "text": "memory. This was especially weird since"}, {"end": "00:35:48", "start": "00:35:43", "text": "I usually sleep from 8:00 a.m. to 3:00"}, {"end": "00:35:51", "start": "00:35:45", "text": "p.m. or so. I'm never even remotely"}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:48", "text": "tired at this time. At first, I tried my"}, {"end": "00:35:56", "start": "00:35:51", "text": "best to dismiss what happened as a"}, {"end": "00:35:58", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "dream. It couldn't have happened, right?"}, {"end": "00:36:00", "start": "00:35:56", "text": "Wait, does this person sleep from 8:00"}, {"end": "00:36:02", "start": "00:35:58", "text": "a.m. to 3:00 p.m.? They work the night"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:36:00", "text": "shift or something? That's kind of a"}, {"end": "00:36:06", "start": "00:36:02", "text": "crazy sleep schedule, if you ask me."}, {"end": "00:36:07", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "They did mention that they were"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:06", "text": "autistic, so perhaps there's something"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:07", "text": "there that uh leads them to be uh more"}, {"end": "00:36:16", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "of a nocturnal person. In addition, I"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "suffered from daily headaches and body"}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:16", "text": "pains, which was diagnosed as"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "fibromyalgia by a rheatologist in"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "February. Even though the headaches and"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "pains have gotten better as I followed"}, {"end": "00:36:30", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "my doctor's treatment, these headaches"}, {"end": "00:36:34", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "and pains have never fully went"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:30", "text": "away until this abduction incident. I"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:34", "text": "have yet to have a headache or pain in"}, {"end": "00:36:41", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "my body since, and it's been nearly a"}, {"end": "00:36:43", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "week when I usually feel these pains"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:41", "text": "daily. Well, that's interesting. You"}, {"end": "00:36:48", "start": "00:36:43", "text": "know, the the the"}, {"end": "00:36:50", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "healing idea is something that comes up"}, {"end": "00:36:52", "start": "00:36:48", "text": "quite often as well. And again, I, you"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:50", "text": "know, reference Chris Bledsoe because"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:52", "text": "he's such a famous case, but there are"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "so many other cases as well where people"}, {"end": "00:37:02", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "have felt that they've been either"}, {"end": "00:37:05", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "healed or or cured of of certain certain"}, {"end": "00:37:07", "start": "00:37:02", "text": "diseases. Here are the questions I asked"}, {"end": "00:37:11", "start": "00:37:05", "text": "my watcher and that she answered. Now,"}, {"end": "00:37:15", "start": "00:37:07", "text": "we get into the Q&A, folks. Question."}, {"end": "00:37:17", "start": "00:37:11", "text": "Why did you abduct me? Answer: We abduct"}, {"end": "00:37:19", "start": "00:37:15", "text": "your family line because you and your"}, {"end": "00:37:22", "start": "00:37:17", "text": "family have high psionic"}, {"end": "00:37:24", "start": "00:37:19", "text": "abilities. However, your relatives, she"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:22", "text": "showed an image of my dad and grandma in"}, {"end": "00:37:32", "start": "00:37:24", "text": "my mind, have ignored the truth for"}, {"end": "00:37:34", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "religion. You're more open-minded."}, {"end": "00:37:38", "start": "00:37:32", "text": "Question, how long have you been"}, {"end": "00:37:39", "start": "00:37:34", "text": "following my family line? Answered 237"}, {"end": "00:37:42", "start": "00:37:38", "text": "years."}, {"end": "00:37:44", "start": "00:37:39", "text": "Question: Why did my parents' car"}, {"end": "00:37:47", "start": "00:37:42", "text": "teleport? For context, my parents and I"}, {"end": "00:37:48", "start": "00:37:44", "text": "experienced our car teleporting to a"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:47", "text": "completely different part of town while"}, {"end": "00:37:53", "start": "00:37:48", "text": "my dad was driving in May of"}, {"end": "00:37:55", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "2015. Answer to save your parents'"}, {"end": "00:37:57", "start": "00:37:53", "text": "lives. If we didn't save your parents,"}, {"end": "00:38:00", "start": "00:37:55", "text": "this would interfere with your psychic"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:57", "text": "abilities. Whoa, that's crazy. There"}, {"end": "00:38:05", "start": "00:38:00", "text": "there are accounts as well of people"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "just driving seeing a bright light or"}, {"end": "00:38:08", "start": "00:38:05", "text": "something and then all of a sudden be"}, {"end": "00:38:10", "start": "00:38:06", "text": "driving in a different direction or in a"}, {"end": "00:38:12", "start": "00:38:08", "text": "different part of town or hours later."}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:10", "text": "Betty and Barney Hill being a very"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:12", "text": "famous case of that. But these things"}, {"end": "00:38:18", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "tend to happen pretty regularly. So if"}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "you've ever driven somewhere and had"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:18", "text": "missing time, you know, perhaps, hey,"}, {"end": "00:38:26", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "perhaps you were being saved. Why did"}, {"end": "00:38:28", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "you wait until now? Answer: We knew you"}, {"end": "00:38:31", "start": "00:38:26", "text": "would come to the conclusion that you've"}, {"end": "00:38:33", "start": "00:38:28", "text": "been abducted. We waited until then as"}, {"end": "00:38:34", "start": "00:38:31", "text": "well as you mastered your lucid"}, {"end": "00:38:37", "start": "00:38:33", "text": "dreaming."}, {"end": "00:38:41", "start": "00:38:34", "text": "Question, what is behind the four beige"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:37", "text": "doors? Answer: The deck, the window, the"}, {"end": "00:38:44", "start": "00:38:41", "text": "pilot room, and the engine room. She"}, {"end": "00:38:47", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "made a map of what she believed the"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:44", "text": "alien ship looked like. It's also really"}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:47", "text": "interesting because a lot of"}, {"end": "00:38:56", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "these ships, and this is very common,"}, {"end": "00:38:59", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "once again, seem to"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:56", "text": "manipulate space in a way that doesn't"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:38:59", "text": "seem possible where the inside of the"}, {"end": "00:39:07", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "craft actually appears to be much larger"}, {"end": "00:39:12", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "than the outside. Are there other rooms?"}, {"end": "00:39:16", "start": "00:39:07", "text": "Answer: Yes. Can I see them? Answer: No."}, {"end": "00:39:19", "start": "00:39:12", "text": "Question: What are you aliens? You"}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:16", "text": "graze. I like how that's she's like,"}, {"end": "00:39:25", "start": "00:39:19", "text": "\"You graze, bro.\" Answer. For as long as"}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "you live, we cannot tell you or"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:25", "text": "humanity. This was also the answer to"}, {"end": "00:39:30", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "many other questions regarding the"}, {"end": "00:39:32", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "nature of the universe, their"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:30", "text": "technology, where they live,"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:32", "text": "etc. Huh? For as long as you live, we"}, {"end": "00:39:41", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "cannot tell you or humanity. Does tie"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "into the whole future us"}, {"end": "00:39:50", "start": "00:39:41", "text": "thing. What if the future us, right,"}, {"end": "00:39:52", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "needs to fix something in the past, but"}, {"end": "00:39:55", "start": "00:39:50", "text": "we can't do"}, {"end": "00:39:58", "start": "00:39:52", "text": "it because that'll affect the future us."}, {"end": "00:40:00", "start": "00:39:55", "text": "That'll that'll make them become us,"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:58", "text": "which is what we're trying to fix in the"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:00", "text": "first place, right? So, instead, we make"}, {"end": "00:40:08", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "these aliens that look nothing like"}, {"end": "00:40:10", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "us, so that we don't even come to the"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:08", "text": "conclusion that that could be us in the"}, {"end": "00:40:15", "start": "00:40:10", "text": "future. and that actually the future us"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "just looks like"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:15", "text": "us. You know, much like what Travis"}, {"end": "00:40:20", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "Walton witnessed when he had these"}, {"end": "00:40:22", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "little guys working on him when he"}, {"end": "00:40:24", "start": "00:40:20", "text": "fought them off. He ended up"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:22", "text": "encountering these humanoid looking"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:24", "text": "people who, you know, for all we know"}, {"end": "00:40:31", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "hired a bunch of grays, you know, to do,"}, {"end": "00:40:34", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "you know, the mundane work. What"}, {"end": "00:40:37", "start": "00:40:31", "text": "technology do you use? Answer"}, {"end": "00:40:39", "start": "00:40:34", "text": "electromagnetism, I presume, and"}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:37", "text": "psionics. You wouldn't understand if we"}, {"end": "00:40:43", "start": "00:40:39", "text": "told you. This was also a common answer"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "to many other questions regarding the"}, {"end": "00:40:47", "start": "00:40:43", "text": "nature of the universe, their"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "technology, where they live, etc."}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:47", "text": "Question. Is religion real? Answer. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:40:58", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "all are to some degree. All right."}, {"end": "00:41:00", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "Question. If you're a watcher, what"}, {"end": "00:41:02", "start": "00:40:58", "text": "other aliens exist? Man, these are great"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:41:00", "text": "questions. All right. Kudos to the"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:02", "text": "person who wrote this. These are"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "fantastic questions. Answer. There are"}, {"end": "00:41:11", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "watchers/observers. those who reproduce"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "and others. I personally call those who"}, {"end": "00:41:15", "start": "00:41:11", "text": "reproduce breeders. Question: Would a"}, {"end": "00:41:18", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "reproducing alien abduct me? Answered."}, {"end": "00:41:20", "start": "00:41:15", "text": "No, that would interfere with your"}, {"end": "00:41:23", "start": "00:41:18", "text": "purpose. We specifically have you and"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:20", "text": "your family marked to not reproduce"}, {"end": "00:41:29", "start": "00:41:23", "text": "with. Question, what is my purpose?"}, {"end": "00:41:31", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "Answer: To learn psychic"}, {"end": "00:41:33", "start": "00:41:29", "text": "abilities. You should also have"}, {"end": "00:41:35", "start": "00:41:31", "text": "children, preferably three or four if"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:33", "text": "possible, given how well we predict you"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:35", "text": "can handle children, but we won't force"}, {"end": "00:41:44", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "you to since we know you don't want"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "children. If you follow what we say,"}, {"end": "00:41:48", "start": "00:41:44", "text": "then this will be the best for both of"}, {"end": "00:41:50", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "us.\" She then telepathically showed me"}, {"end": "00:41:53", "start": "00:41:48", "text": "clairvoyant visions, including a vision"}, {"end": "00:41:56", "start": "00:41:50", "text": "of what life career I should"}, {"end": "00:41:58", "start": "00:41:53", "text": "pursue, and it was an animator. what a"}, {"end": "00:42:01", "start": "00:41:56", "text": "future romantic partner of mine would"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:58", "text": "look like and a vision of me floating in"}, {"end": "00:42:05", "start": "00:42:01", "text": "space seeing colors I normally couldn't"}, {"end": "00:42:08", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "see in real life. If I remember any more"}, {"end": "00:42:10", "start": "00:42:05", "text": "questions, I'll be sure to put them"}, {"end": "00:42:11", "start": "00:42:08", "text": "here. The psionic part is really"}, {"end": "00:42:14", "start": "00:42:10", "text": "interesting because this is 4 years ago."}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:11", "text": "This is 2021 prior to a lot of the quote"}, {"end": "00:42:19", "start": "00:42:14", "text": "unquote psionic talk we've been hearing"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "about, you know, with Jake Barber and"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:19", "text": "whatnot and the whole Sky Watcher thing."}, {"end": "00:42:28", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "Yeah, I'd be curious to"}, {"end": "00:42:29", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "know where this person currently is and"}, {"end": "00:42:32", "start": "00:42:28", "text": "if this person wants to reach out to me"}, {"end": "00:42:35", "start": "00:42:29", "text": "anonymously, I'd be happy to"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:32", "text": "uh to talk to them."}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "Skepticism. I've tried telling a few"}, {"end": "00:42:41", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "friends and family some details on what"}, {"end": "00:42:44", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "happened only to be met with skepticism."}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:41", "text": "To be honest, even I don't fully believe"}, {"end": "00:42:47", "start": "00:42:44", "text": "what I experienced. Maybe it's right to"}, {"end": "00:42:49", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "be"}, {"end": "00:42:52", "start": "00:42:47", "text": "skeptical. Here's some skeptical points"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:49", "text": "that I've seen others bring up. Okay,"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:52", "text": "very forthcoming about skeptical, you"}, {"end": "00:42:58", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "know, inquiry, which I think is very"}, {"end": "00:43:01", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "healthy. Perhaps all of my abductions"}, {"end": "00:43:02", "start": "00:42:58", "text": "were just extremely vivid dreams. Dreams"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:43:01", "text": "that seemed even more realistic than"}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:02", "text": "typical lucid"}, {"end": "00:43:08", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "dreams. Perhaps my parents' car"}, {"end": "00:43:10", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "teleporting is because my parents and I"}, {"end": "00:43:11", "start": "00:43:08", "text": "just coincidentally fell asleep on the"}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:10", "text": "wheel and drove to the other side of"}, {"end": "00:43:16", "start": "00:43:11", "text": "town somehow, or we just drove to a"}, {"end": "00:43:18", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "completely different part of our city"}, {"end": "00:43:21", "start": "00:43:16", "text": "without all three of us noticing"}, {"end": "00:43:22", "start": "00:43:18", "text": "somehow. Perhaps my anxiety, headaches,"}, {"end": "00:43:25", "start": "00:43:21", "text": "and body pain going away are just my"}, {"end": "00:43:27", "start": "00:43:22", "text": "mind's placebo effects. Perhaps me and"}, {"end": "00:43:29", "start": "00:43:25", "text": "my family seeing shadow entities or even"}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:27", "text": "straight up aliens in real life are just"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:29", "text": "hallucinations. Perhaps I have a mental"}, {"end": "00:43:35", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "condition I need to check out. To combat"}, {"end": "00:43:37", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "this point, I actually visited two"}, {"end": "00:43:39", "start": "00:43:35", "text": "psychologists regarding me seeing these"}, {"end": "00:43:41", "start": "00:43:37", "text": "strange entities in real life long"}, {"end": "00:43:44", "start": "00:43:39", "text": "before my third abduction and me even"}, {"end": "00:43:46", "start": "00:43:41", "text": "remembering my previous abductions. Both"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "of them had me do tests to see if I had"}, {"end": "00:43:50", "start": "00:43:46", "text": "anything like schizophrenia. And both of"}, {"end": "00:43:53", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "them said that I'm perfectly sane. Yes,"}, {"end": "00:43:55", "start": "00:43:50", "text": "I do have autism. No, autism does not"}, {"end": "00:43:57", "start": "00:43:53", "text": "cause people to see stuff, see this"}, {"end": "00:43:59", "start": "00:43:55", "text": "stuff rather. Perhaps my family"}, {"end": "00:44:02", "start": "00:43:57", "text": "experiencing all of these things and not"}, {"end": "00:44:04", "start": "00:43:59", "text": "just me exclusively is just inherited by"}, {"end": "00:44:06", "start": "00:44:02", "text": "genetics or passing down"}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:04", "text": "culture. So, some of the skeptical"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:06", "text": "points don't make logical sense to me,"}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:08", "text": "but hey, this alien counter hardly makes"}, {"end": "00:44:13", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "logical sense. So, honestly, believe"}, {"end": "00:44:17", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "whatever you want to believe. No"}, {"end": "00:44:19", "start": "00:44:13", "text": "judging. Heart emoji. I'm an artist, by"}, {"end": "00:44:21", "start": "00:44:17", "text": "the way. So, if you have"}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:19", "text": "anything that I saw that you want me to"}, {"end": "00:44:25", "start": "00:44:21", "text": "sketch, I can definitely do so. I also"}, {"end": "00:44:27", "start": "00:44:23", "text": "have a myriad of stories of my father,"}, {"end": "00:44:30", "start": "00:44:25", "text": "grandma, great grandma, and siblings"}, {"end": "00:44:32", "start": "00:44:27", "text": "have told me or passed down to me that"}, {"end": "00:44:33", "start": "00:44:30", "text": "might be related to alien abduction as"}, {"end": "00:44:36", "start": "00:44:32", "text": "well. I could post about those if"}, {"end": "00:44:38", "start": "00:44:33", "text": "anybody wants to see that. Edit. Here's"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:36", "text": "a sketch of the aliens and a sketch of"}, {"end": "00:44:43", "start": "00:44:38", "text": "what the UFO looked like from the bottom"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:40", "text": "as well. First of all, I want to commend"}, {"end": "00:44:48", "start": "00:44:43", "text": "this person on coming out. You know, if"}, {"end": "00:44:53", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "this is uh completely made up, fine. For"}, {"end": "00:44:55", "start": "00:44:48", "text": "what? 145 likes. Cool. All right. If"}, {"end": "00:44:58", "start": "00:44:53", "text": "this is real, commend this person. I"}, {"end": "00:44:59", "start": "00:44:55", "text": "think they're very brave for um you"}, {"end": "00:45:01", "start": "00:44:58", "text": "know, even talking about it. Even"}, {"end": "00:45:03", "start": "00:44:59", "text": "anonymously, I think is very difficult"}, {"end": "00:45:05", "start": "00:45:01", "text": "to talk about something that so many"}, {"end": "00:45:08", "start": "00:45:03", "text": "people would um"}, {"end": "00:45:09", "start": "00:45:05", "text": "dismiss. Again, even anonymously. I"}, {"end": "00:45:10", "start": "00:45:08", "text": "think if you were to type this out and"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:09", "text": "just like waiting for someone's response"}, {"end": "00:45:14", "start": "00:45:10", "text": "and it's just negative, negative,"}, {"end": "00:45:16", "start": "00:45:11", "text": "negative, that affects you."}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:14", "text": "right? As a person, even if no one else"}, {"end": "00:45:21", "start": "00:45:16", "text": "sees it, you're like,"}, {"end": "00:45:23", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "damn, this, you know, kind of sucks that"}, {"end": "00:45:26", "start": "00:45:21", "text": "I can't put put this out there and that"}, {"end": "00:45:28", "start": "00:45:23", "text": "people, you know, will think I'm crazy."}, {"end": "00:45:30", "start": "00:45:26", "text": "So, good on them for doing that. I'm"}, {"end": "00:45:33", "start": "00:45:28", "text": "curious to know if this person has had"}, {"end": "00:45:36", "start": "00:45:30", "text": "any luck astral projecting, you know,"}, {"end": "00:45:38", "start": "00:45:33", "text": "and wonder maybe if they've watched my"}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:36", "text": "documentary on astral projecting. May"}, {"end": "00:45:43", "start": "00:45:38", "text": "maybe that'll help. Yeah, it makes me"}, {"end": "00:45:44", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "now question the um the voice that I"}, {"end": "00:45:48", "start": "00:45:43", "text": "heard in my"}, {"end": "00:45:49", "start": "00:45:44", "text": "head on the last time, you know, that I"}, {"end": "00:45:52", "start": "00:45:48", "text": "astral projected. Again, if you haven't"}, {"end": "00:45:54", "start": "00:45:49", "text": "watched that three-part series, I I"}, {"end": "00:45:57", "start": "00:45:52", "text": "highly suggest going to watch it. But on"}, {"end": "00:45:58", "start": "00:45:54", "text": "the third part, as I was walking out of"}, {"end": "00:46:01", "start": "00:45:57", "text": "my body, leaving my room, broad"}, {"end": "00:46:03", "start": "00:45:58", "text": "daylight, by the way, I wasn't asleep. I"}, {"end": "00:46:06", "start": "00:46:01", "text": "was meditating, left my body, saw my"}, {"end": "00:46:08", "start": "00:46:03", "text": "body. I go to my window, try to leave,"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:06", "text": "and I hear a female"}, {"end": "00:46:16", "start": "00:46:08", "text": "voice as loud as as loud as this go,"}, {"end": "00:46:17", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "what are you doing? And the tone was"}, {"end": "00:46:18", "start": "00:46:16", "text": "more like, \"What do you think you're"}, {"end": "00:46:20", "start": "00:46:17", "text": "doing?\" But it was, \"What are you"}, {"end": "00:46:21", "start": "00:46:18", "text": "doing?\" And it was a female voice that I"}, {"end": "00:46:23", "start": "00:46:20", "text": "did not recognize. And it was coming"}, {"end": "00:46:25", "start": "00:46:21", "text": "from behind me. And I was like, and I"}, {"end": "00:46:27", "start": "00:46:23", "text": "kind of like froze in fear, saw my body,"}, {"end": "00:46:28", "start": "00:46:25", "text": "went back to my body, didn't look over"}, {"end": "00:46:32", "start": "00:46:27", "text": "there, just like kind of went back into"}, {"end": "00:46:35", "start": "00:46:28", "text": "my body. and then came out of my"}, {"end": "00:46:37", "start": "00:46:32", "text": "meditation. Sounds crazy, I know, but"}, {"end": "00:46:39", "start": "00:46:35", "text": "I'm, you know, I'm not afraid to I'm not"}, {"end": "00:46:41", "start": "00:46:37", "text": "afraid to say what happened, you know."}, {"end": "00:46:46", "start": "00:46:39", "text": "Why would I be afraid to say what"}, {"end": "00:46:49", "start": "00:46:41", "text": "happened? I'm I'm just relaying what I"}, {"end": "00:46:51", "start": "00:46:46", "text": "perceived, you know, and uh it makes me"}, {"end": "00:46:53", "start": "00:46:49", "text": "a little uneasy reading this because now"}, {"end": "00:46:55", "start": "00:46:51", "text": "I hear about this"}, {"end": "00:46:57", "start": "00:46:53", "text": "voice, you know, this feminine, and now"}, {"end": "00:47:00", "start": "00:46:55", "text": "I'm starting to think, oh, wait, is"}, {"end": "00:47:02", "start": "00:46:57", "text": "astral projecting tied into the"}, {"end": "00:47:05", "start": "00:47:00", "text": "phenomenon somehow? And I always thought"}, {"end": "00:47:09", "start": "00:47:02", "text": "that it was, but never so"}, {"end": "00:47:12", "start": "00:47:05", "text": "directly. So, it's kind of"}, {"end": "00:47:14", "start": "00:47:09", "text": "Yeah. Interesting. Let's look at the"}, {"end": "00:47:16", "start": "00:47:12", "text": "pictures here. So, a sketch of the"}, {"end": "00:47:17", "start": "00:47:14", "text": "aliens. I love how they're like kind of"}, {"end": "00:47:19", "start": "00:47:16", "text": "smiling. Well, at least some of them"}, {"end": "00:47:23", "start": "00:47:17", "text": "are, not all of"}, {"end": "00:47:25", "start": "00:47:19", "text": "them. One, two, three, and four are the"}, {"end": "00:47:27", "start": "00:47:23", "text": "names I've given. I gave the four"}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:25", "text": "shorter grays that I didn't have names"}, {"end": "00:47:33", "start": "00:47:27", "text": "for. Um, one was 53, so about her size."}, {"end": "00:47:36", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "One was"}, {"end": "00:47:39", "start": "00:47:33", "text": "5'9, one was 5'6, and one was 49. Okay."}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:36", "text": "So, they all had a little bit they all"}, {"end": "00:47:43", "start": "00:47:39", "text": "seemed to to have a little bit of a"}, {"end": "00:47:46", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "different feature. They didn't seem"}, {"end": "00:47:50", "start": "00:47:43", "text": "identical, which is cool. And then there"}, {"end": "00:47:51", "start": "00:47:46", "text": "was Mama the Watcher. About 73. Very"}, {"end": "00:47:53", "start": "00:47:50", "text": "interesting. And blue seems to be the"}, {"end": "00:47:56", "start": "00:47:51", "text": "color that these aliens wear for some"}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:53", "text": "reason. Seems to be the garb they chose."}, {"end": "00:48:00", "start": "00:47:56", "text": "Why blue? You know, that's interesting"}, {"end": "00:48:02", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "because blue is a is a choice. Could"}, {"end": "00:48:03", "start": "00:48:00", "text": "have been red, could have been yellow."}, {"end": "00:48:06", "start": "00:48:02", "text": "Why"}, {"end": "00:48:07", "start": "00:48:03", "text": "blue? Why not white? something neutral."}, {"end": "00:48:10", "start": "00:48:06", "text": "Why"}, {"end": "00:48:12", "start": "00:48:07", "text": "blue? Did they think, \"Oh, blue is a"}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:10", "text": "common color for humans.\" Or they're"}, {"end": "00:48:15", "start": "00:48:12", "text": "just like, \"No, we like blue. Blue is"}, {"end": "00:48:17", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "sick. Blue is a nice color.\" Like, what"}, {"end": "00:48:19", "start": "00:48:15", "text": "was the what was the actual decision"}, {"end": "00:48:21", "start": "00:48:17", "text": "behind"}, {"end": "00:48:25", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "blue? That bugs"}, {"end": "00:48:27", "start": "00:48:21", "text": "me. Whoa. Here is the bottom. This is a"}, {"end": "00:48:31", "start": "00:48:25", "text": "great picture, but here's the bottom of"}, {"end": "00:48:34", "start": "00:48:27", "text": "the craft. And I love how they included"}, {"end": "00:48:35", "start": "00:48:31", "text": "it sort of reflecting too with that big"}, {"end": "00:48:39", "start": "00:48:34", "text": "red light. That is super"}, {"end": "00:48:43", "start": "00:48:35", "text": "sick. This person then continued"}, {"end": "00:48:44", "start": "00:48:39", "text": "to answer um a lot of questions. So, she"}, {"end": "00:48:46", "start": "00:48:43", "text": "does say here, uh, \"Thanks for the luck"}, {"end": "00:48:48", "start": "00:48:44", "text": "with astral projection. I figured it's"}, {"end": "00:48:50", "start": "00:48:46", "text": "going to take a while to"}, {"end": "00:48:52", "start": "00:48:48", "text": "learn.\" And someone says, \"Not as hard"}, {"end": "00:48:54", "start": "00:48:50", "text": "as you might think. Ever since my"}, {"end": "00:48:57", "start": "00:48:52", "text": "experiences, I found it pretty easy to"}, {"end": "00:48:59", "start": "00:48:54", "text": "do to the point where I almost wonder if"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:57", "text": "that's because of my alien experiences."}, {"end": "00:49:03", "start": "00:48:59", "text": "like they just made me super comfortable"}, {"end": "00:49:05", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "with slipping out of my body, like"}, {"end": "00:49:07", "start": "00:49:03", "text": "taking off an old boot. I detailed how"}, {"end": "00:49:09", "start": "00:49:05", "text": "to do it in my thread here, though I'm"}, {"end": "00:49:10", "start": "00:49:07", "text": "not though I'm sure you're probably"}, {"end": "00:49:12", "start": "00:49:09", "text": "aware of this technique. She says,"}, {"end": "00:49:13", "start": "00:49:10", "text": "\"Thanks for the info. It's interesting"}, {"end": "00:49:14", "start": "00:49:12", "text": "to read about your simple technique for"}, {"end": "00:49:16", "start": "00:49:13", "text": "astral projection. Thanks so much for"}, {"end": "00:49:18", "start": "00:49:14", "text": "linking your thread. I'll definitely try"}, {"end": "00:49:20", "start": "00:49:16", "text": "your technique out.\" This person then"}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:18", "text": "says, \"Give it a shot. Just this past"}, {"end": "00:49:23", "start": "00:49:20", "text": "week, I had another astral projection"}, {"end": "00:49:25", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "experience, and this time it went a bit"}, {"end": "00:49:27", "start": "00:49:23", "text": "farther than usual. It's all about"}, {"end": "00:49:29", "start": "00:49:25", "text": "walking that tight rope between waking"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:27", "text": "and sleep, between relaxation and"}, {"end": "00:49:33", "start": "00:49:29", "text": "concentration. The hardest part for me"}, {"end": "00:49:35", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "is that usually once I leave my body, or"}, {"end": "00:49:37", "start": "00:49:33", "text": "so it seems, I immediately start zooming"}, {"end": "00:49:39", "start": "00:49:35", "text": "forward at ridiculous speeds and it just"}, {"end": "00:49:41", "start": "00:49:37", "text": "becomes kind of frightening. Honestly,"}, {"end": "00:49:43", "start": "00:49:39", "text": "this most recent time I started flying"}, {"end": "00:49:46", "start": "00:49:41", "text": "through space and eventually heard a"}, {"end": "00:49:48", "start": "00:49:43", "text": "strange tiny voice which said something"}, {"end": "00:49:51", "start": "00:49:46", "text": "like, \"Please proceed to the lower"}, {"end": "00:49:53", "start": "00:49:48", "text": "levels.\" Then it said something about"}, {"end": "00:49:55", "start": "00:49:51", "text": "checking out the surface of the sun. and"}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:53", "text": "I woke up shortly there after. It was"}, {"end": "00:49:59", "start": "00:49:55", "text": "really weird. I don't blame people who"}, {"end": "00:50:01", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "think it's all a dream or whatever, but"}, {"end": "00:50:02", "start": "00:49:59", "text": "no matter what it is, it's distinctly"}, {"end": "00:50:04", "start": "00:50:01", "text": "different from straight up dreams. In my"}, {"end": "00:50:06", "start": "00:50:02", "text": "experience, astral projection is just"}, {"end": "00:50:08", "start": "00:50:04", "text": "really bizarre, to be honest. It doesn't"}, {"end": "00:50:10", "start": "00:50:06", "text": "really make sense somehow. It's like an"}, {"end": "00:50:13", "start": "00:50:08", "text": "alternate reality rather than simply"}, {"end": "00:50:16", "start": "00:50:10", "text": "being our own reality, but out of body."}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:13", "text": "It's like nowhere in Silent Hill or the"}, {"end": "00:50:20", "start": "00:50:16", "text": "upside down in Stranger Things, the sort"}, {"end": "00:50:22", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "of offshoot imitation of reality. At"}, {"end": "00:50:25", "start": "00:50:20", "text": "least that's my experience."}, {"end": "00:50:26", "start": "00:50:22", "text": "1,000%. That is so well put. And that is"}, {"end": "00:50:28", "start": "00:50:25", "text": "definitely coming from somebody who's"}, {"end": "00:50:30", "start": "00:50:26", "text": "had out-of- body experiences because the"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:28", "text": "room is the same but like an 80% match."}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:30", "text": "It's either bigger or smaller or wonky."}, {"end": "00:50:36", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "It's a little bit off. And again, I'm"}, {"end": "00:50:39", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "I'm in a lucid state. I'm completely"}, {"end": "00:50:40", "start": "00:50:36", "text": "aware that my body is over there in that"}, {"end": "00:50:42", "start": "00:50:39", "text": "I just closed my eyes 20 seconds ago."}, {"end": "00:50:44", "start": "00:50:40", "text": "Like it's there's no time delay. I"}, {"end": "00:50:46", "start": "00:50:42", "text": "didn't wake up in this thing. I I went"}, {"end": "00:50:47", "start": "00:50:44", "text": "from meditating, taking my headphones"}, {"end": "00:50:50", "start": "00:50:46", "text": "off, closing my eyes to instantly"}, {"end": "00:50:53", "start": "00:50:47", "text": "leaving my body. it it feels like a"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:50", "text": "weird upside down realm. And someone"}, {"end": "00:50:56", "start": "00:50:53", "text": "says, \"I'm sure this is hardly ever"}, {"end": "00:50:58", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "said, but I envy you and your"}, {"end": "00:51:01", "start": "00:50:56", "text": "experiences.\" And she says, \"I've heard"}, {"end": "00:51:03", "start": "00:50:58", "text": "some speak of envy regarding my"}, {"end": "00:51:04", "start": "00:51:01", "text": "experience. Truth be told, I wish some"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:51:03", "text": "of this could be passed on to other"}, {"end": "00:51:08", "start": "00:51:04", "text": "people. At the very least, if they could"}, {"end": "00:51:10", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "give us some of their medical technology"}, {"end": "00:51:12", "start": "00:51:08", "text": "knowledge, such as whatever they use to"}, {"end": "00:51:14", "start": "00:51:10", "text": "heal my anxiety and depression, that"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:12", "text": "would be wonderful, so as to have less"}, {"end": "00:51:19", "start": "00:51:14", "text": "people suffer in the world.\" You know,"}, {"end": "00:51:23", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "it is really interesting because"}, {"end": "00:51:26", "start": "00:51:19", "text": "we we just completed, you know, a giant"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:23", "text": "three-part read through on this alien"}, {"end": "00:51:31", "start": "00:51:26", "text": "being named Errol, you know, who said"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "that our souls are trapped here and that"}, {"end": "00:51:34", "start": "00:51:31", "text": "when we die, you know, we leave our"}, {"end": "00:51:36", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "bodies, but then we're sort of recycled"}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:34", "text": "back into this planet. The astral"}, {"end": "00:51:41", "start": "00:51:36", "text": "projection part of"}, {"end": "00:51:43", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "it comes up here, you know, and then"}, {"end": "00:51:46", "start": "00:51:41", "text": "call that the soul or whatever you want"}, {"end": "00:51:47", "start": "00:51:43", "text": "or consciousness or the your spirit or"}, {"end": "00:51:50", "start": "00:51:46", "text": "whatnot."}, {"end": "00:51:53", "start": "00:51:47", "text": "But it seems like that might be a key to"}, {"end": "00:51:56", "start": "00:51:50", "text": "all of this and it might really explain"}, {"end": "00:51:57", "start": "00:51:53", "text": "the US government's interest and the"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:56", "text": "Chinese government's interest and the"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:57", "text": "Russians government interest"}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "into the"}, {"end": "00:52:09", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "parasychological extrenensory"}, {"end": "00:52:12", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "perception precognitive experiences"}, {"end": "00:52:15", "start": "00:52:09", "text": "psychic connections telepathy"}, {"end": "00:52:17", "start": "00:52:12", "text": "telekinesis all of these amazing"}, {"end": "00:52:20", "start": "00:52:15", "text": "seemingly impossible"}, {"end": "00:52:22", "start": "00:52:17", "text": "feats of the human"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:20", "text": "mind are"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:22", "text": "all potentially very closely directly"}, {"end": "00:52:32", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "and importantly related to the UFO"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "phenomenon. And I think that's why folks"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:32", "text": "such as Hal Putoff, you know, who"}, {"end": "00:52:40", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "started Stargate back in the day and"}, {"end": "00:52:44", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "other projects"}, {"end": "00:52:46", "start": "00:52:40", "text": "are so closely tied to the UFO subject."}, {"end": "00:52:48", "start": "00:52:44", "text": "I think that's why I think because even"}, {"end": "00:52:50", "start": "00:52:46", "text": "the psionic stuff we talk about, I think"}, {"end": "00:52:54", "start": "00:52:48", "text": "the astral projection stuff we talk"}, {"end": "00:52:57", "start": "00:52:50", "text": "about, I think it all has to do with the"}, {"end": "00:52:59", "start": "00:52:54", "text": "phenomenon. And now, you know, after"}, {"end": "00:53:02", "start": "00:52:57", "text": "reading the alien"}, {"end": "00:53:06", "start": "00:52:59", "text": "interview, you look at that book as"}, {"end": "00:53:09", "start": "00:53:02", "text": "fiction, but maybe there's something to"}, {"end": "00:53:11", "start": "00:53:06", "text": "it. Maybe it's not all real, but maybe"}, {"end": "00:53:12", "start": "00:53:09", "text": "there is something to it. Maybe there is"}, {"end": "00:53:17", "start": "00:53:11", "text": "some type"}, {"end": "00:53:20", "start": "00:53:12", "text": "of war or exchange going on or some type"}, {"end": "00:53:24", "start": "00:53:17", "text": "of I don't know"}, {"end": "00:53:26", "start": "00:53:20", "text": "containment here on earth that houses"}, {"end": "00:53:28", "start": "00:53:24", "text": "the human spirit and that like you know"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:26", "text": "we need to sort of free ourselves doing"}, {"end": "00:53:33", "start": "00:53:28", "text": "through these astral projections. Who"}, {"end": "00:53:34", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "knows? It's fun to think about. again,"}, {"end": "00:53:37", "start": "00:53:33", "text": "you know, as I'm reading through a lot"}, {"end": "00:53:39", "start": "00:53:34", "text": "of the Q&A here with uh other people on"}, {"end": "00:53:42", "start": "00:53:37", "text": "Reddit and this individual, she keeps"}, {"end": "00:53:43", "start": "00:53:39", "text": "repeating on how skeptical she is. She"}, {"end": "00:53:44", "start": "00:53:42", "text": "she keeps saying, \"Yeah, I'm very"}, {"end": "00:53:47", "start": "00:53:43", "text": "skeptical about the things they told me."}, {"end": "00:53:48", "start": "00:53:44", "text": "I'm skeptical about everything.\" You"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:47", "text": "know, and I think that's a really"}, {"end": "00:53:51", "start": "00:53:48", "text": "healthy way of approaching it. It's not"}, {"end": "00:53:53", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "someone who's trying to force this"}, {"end": "00:53:56", "start": "00:53:51", "text": "narrative down anyone's throat. they"}, {"end": "00:53:58", "start": "00:53:53", "text": "come to this particular subreddit, you"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:56", "text": "know, to be a little bit more vulnerable"}, {"end": "00:54:05", "start": "00:53:58", "text": "and open and, you know, discussing"}, {"end": "00:54:07", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "possibilities of it not being, you know,"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:05", "text": "a real thing. A lot of people here"}, {"end": "00:54:15", "start": "00:54:07", "text": "talking about, uh, you know, past life"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "and reincarnation, it gets as soon as"}, {"end": "00:54:18", "start": "00:54:15", "text": "you talk about the soul's journey, you"}, {"end": "00:54:21", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "know, we we talk about so many other"}, {"end": "00:54:22", "start": "00:54:18", "text": "things here. It just really opens up the"}, {"end": "00:54:25", "start": "00:54:21", "text": "floodgates."}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:22", "text": "So that concludes my read"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:25", "text": "through for uh this"}, {"end": "00:54:34", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "particular"}, {"end": "00:54:36", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "post. Bit of a change of pace. You know,"}, {"end": "00:54:40", "start": "00:54:34", "text": "I don't think we've really looked into"}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:36", "text": "the abductee experiencer stuff so much."}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:40", "text": "A lot of times we've been looking into"}, {"end": "00:54:47", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "government documents or, you know,"}, {"end": "00:54:48", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "whistleblowers. I think that this is"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:47", "text": "definitely an important topic that we"}, {"end": "00:54:52", "start": "00:54:48", "text": "should be tackling and it's something"}, {"end": "00:54:54", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "that I want to do a lot more of and"}, {"end": "00:54:57", "start": "00:54:52", "text": "there is a"}, {"end": "00:55:00", "start": "00:54:54", "text": "catch22 with approaching this particular"}, {"end": "00:55:02", "start": "00:54:57", "text": "subject and the catch is you know having"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:00", "text": "experiencers come"}, {"end": "00:55:06", "start": "00:55:02", "text": "forward without"}, {"end": "00:55:11", "start": "00:55:06", "text": "anonymity will"}, {"end": "00:55:13", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "undoubtedly at some point in their like"}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:11", "text": "it it'll change their lives right"}, {"end": "00:55:18", "start": "00:55:13", "text": "because people might start treating them"}, {"end": "00:55:20", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "differently. ly people close to them and"}, {"end": "00:55:23", "start": "00:55:18", "text": "it's a very vulnerable thing and and on"}, {"end": "00:55:25", "start": "00:55:20", "text": "the other side of that I never want to"}, {"end": "00:55:28", "start": "00:55:23", "text": "be exploitative of these people because"}, {"end": "00:55:32", "start": "00:55:25", "text": "the last thing I want to do is monetize"}, {"end": "00:55:37", "start": "00:55:28", "text": "off someone's trauma. Um I'm fascinated"}, {"end": "00:55:39", "start": "00:55:32", "text": "by this and I genuinely want"}, {"end": "00:55:42", "start": "00:55:37", "text": "people to"}, {"end": "00:55:45", "start": "00:55:39", "text": "understand that this is happening. All"}, {"end": "00:55:47", "start": "00:55:42", "text": "right? This isn't just a bunch of crazy"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:45", "text": "people on Reddit. This is happening."}, {"end": "00:55:52", "start": "00:55:47", "text": "There's a lot there. And if you decide"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "to read the books yourselves and not"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:52", "text": "ignore it or try to fit it into your own"}, {"end": "00:55:59", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "current model and expand your worldview"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "by picking up some of these books and"}, {"end": "00:56:01", "start": "00:55:59", "text": "reading some of these accounts or"}, {"end": "00:56:04", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "speaking to people who've had"}, {"end": "00:56:06", "start": "00:56:01", "text": "experiences, you will quickly realize"}, {"end": "00:56:09", "start": "00:56:04", "text": "that we are dealing with something more"}, {"end": "00:56:12", "start": "00:56:06", "text": "profound and more authentic than you"}, {"end": "00:56:12", "start": "00:56:09", "text": "might be comfortable."}, {"end": "00:56:17", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "living with. I believe that there's a"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:14", "text": "lot of stories out there that should be"}, {"end": "00:56:21", "start": "00:56:17", "text": "told. And I think that the audience that"}, {"end": "00:56:24", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "we're cultivating here, that we're"}, {"end": "00:56:26", "start": "00:56:21", "text": "fostering here at Area 52, for the most"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:24", "text": "part, is the perfect audience to receive"}, {"end": "00:56:30", "start": "00:56:26", "text": "some of these people as well, because I"}, {"end": "00:56:31", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "think a lot of you and by reading a lot"}, {"end": "00:56:34", "start": "00:56:30", "text": "of the comments and engaging with you in"}, {"end": "00:56:37", "start": "00:56:31", "text": "the different channels that we have seem"}, {"end": "00:56:40", "start": "00:56:34", "text": "to be very open-minded, accepting,"}, {"end": "00:56:43", "start": "00:56:37", "text": "loving, and uh not too cynical, and"}, {"end": "00:56:44", "start": "00:56:40", "text": "definitely um you know, there's"}, {"end": "00:56:46", "start": "00:56:43", "text": "definitely trolls out there, but most of"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:44", "text": "you, I think, are have your hearts in"}, {"end": "00:56:50", "start": "00:56:46", "text": "the right place and are willing to at"}, {"end": "00:56:52", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "least at the very least hear out what"}, {"end": "00:56:54", "start": "00:56:50", "text": "people have to say without judgment. And"}, {"end": "00:56:56", "start": "00:56:52", "text": "I think that suspension of judgment goes"}, {"end": "00:57:00", "start": "00:56:54", "text": "a long way with people who've"}, {"end": "00:57:02", "start": "00:56:56", "text": "experienced things. And so yeah, I'll"}, {"end": "00:57:04", "start": "00:57:00", "text": "leave it at that. Thank you so much for"}, {"end": "00:57:06", "start": "00:57:02", "text": "watching. Thank you for listening. And"}, {"end": "00:57:08", "start": "00:57:04", "text": "folks, I will be at contact in the"}, {"end": "00:57:10", "start": "00:57:06", "text": "desert. I didn't want to film anything"}, {"end": "00:57:11", "start": "00:57:08", "text": "over there cuz I kind of wanted to let"}, {"end": "00:57:13", "start": "00:57:10", "text": "loose and just kind of like hang out and"}, {"end": "00:57:15", "start": "00:57:11", "text": "meet people, which is what I'll be"}, {"end": "00:57:17", "start": "00:57:13", "text": "doing. But I'll also bring my camera in"}, {"end": "00:57:18", "start": "00:57:15", "text": "case. And I might just film a little"}, {"end": "00:57:20", "start": "00:57:17", "text": "something for you guys cuz I have"}, {"end": "00:57:22", "start": "00:57:18", "text": "nothing planned for the week that I get"}, {"end": "00:57:24", "start": "00:57:20", "text": "back. As you know, I I film and edit all"}, {"end": "00:57:25", "start": "00:57:22", "text": "of these videos myself. And uh I might"}, {"end": "00:57:27", "start": "00:57:24", "text": "not have time to do that. So I might"}, {"end": "00:57:29", "start": "00:57:25", "text": "just put something together about uh my"}, {"end": "00:57:31", "start": "00:57:27", "text": "experience over there or perhaps some"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:29", "text": "interview. I don't know yet, but stay"}, {"end": "00:57:35", "start": "00:57:31", "text": "tuned for that. That'll be next week."}, {"end": "00:57:36", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "And uh and then in the month of June,"}, {"end": "00:57:37", "start": "00:57:35", "text": "we're going to have some more guests"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:36", "text": "come back into the skiff, which I'm"}, {"end": "00:57:41", "start": "00:57:37", "text": "really excited about as well. So thank"}, {"end": "00:57:42", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "you for tuning in. I appreciate you. I"}, {"end": "00:57:43", "start": "00:57:41", "text": "hope you guys have a lovely weekend and"}, {"end": "00:57:47", "start": "00:57:42", "text": "we'll see you on the next video. Peace"}, {"end": "00:57:47", "start": "00:57:43", "text": "and love."}, {"end": "00:57:55", "start": "00:57:52", "text": "[Music]"}]

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Link in the description."}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:21", "text": "So, you got the grace. Are they a"}, {"end": "00:01:28", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "species that evolved on a planet and"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "this is the version of a sentient animal"}, {"end": "00:01:33", "start": "00:01:28", "text": "there? It's possible, but my guess is"}, {"end": "00:01:35", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "it's more complicated. So, first of all,"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:33", "text": "there do seem to be a lot of reports of"}, {"end": "00:01:38", "start": "00:01:35", "text": "what we might call the grays, short"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "little guys, big black eyes. 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Uh we do know that"}, {"end": "00:02:07", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "like in the early years of abduction"}, {"end": "00:02:09", "start": "00:02:04", "text": "research, these early people"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:07", "text": "uh were pulling these types of"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:09", "text": "descriptions out long before it was"}, {"end": "00:02:16", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "really part of our cultural uh"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "zeitgeist. They they there are several"}, {"end": "00:02:20", "start": "00:02:16", "text": "sizes which means they may have some"}, {"end": "00:02:23", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "significant differences. Yep. Right. Uh"}, {"end": "00:02:25", "start": "00:02:20", "text": "and they are the they're versions of the"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:23", "text": "basic gray that we know. Yeah. 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And I found"}, {"end": "00:06:14", "start": "00:06:06", "text": "an expert in the UK as I recall. And he"}, {"end": "00:06:17", "start": "00:06:10", "text": "said it was a very old form of Gaelic."}, {"end": "00:06:22", "start": "00:06:14", "text": "and that it meant children of the"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:17", "text": "northern people, you wander in eternal"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:22", "text": "darkness. And that"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "is been a kind of byword of mine ever"}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "since. I don't know there are a few, you"}, {"end": "00:06:37", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "know, like there's the Ingo Swan at the"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "supermarket, you know, saying this woman"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:37", "text": "is ravishing and I believe she was kind"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "of this tall blonde, you know, beautiful"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "woman. There there's two of them that"}, {"end": "00:06:49", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "happened in the same year and that's"}, {"end": "00:06:51", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "Travis Walton that I believe 100%. And"}, {"end": "00:06:53", "start": "00:06:49", "text": "then there's the Billy Meyer story that"}, {"end": "00:06:55", "start": "00:06:51", "text": "I believe at 30%. the Nordics really"}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:53", "text": "first appeared with the Billy Meyer uh"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:55", "text": "work and some and that's a very very"}, {"end": "00:07:02", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "very complicated case but and then of"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "course you know something we experienced"}, {"end": "00:07:06", "start": "00:07:02", "text": "together that the you know our audiences"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "will see at some point is Charles Hall"}, {"end": "00:07:10", "start": "00:07:06", "text": "uh who spoke to the tall whites spent a"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "lot of time with them but also the"}, {"end": "00:07:16", "start": "00:07:10", "text": "Nordic people with the 24 teeth I'll"}, {"end": "00:07:18", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "tell you I have two I call them bookend"}, {"end": "00:07:21", "start": "00:07:16", "text": "stories they go perfectly together I was"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:18", "text": "following Timothy good of Top Secret you"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:21", "text": "know that was like my research"}, {"end": "00:07:28", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "encyclopedia uh for making out of the"}, {"end": "00:07:29", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "blue and and uh and then I don't"}, {"end": "00:07:31", "start": "00:07:28", "text": "remember if he talks about it in a book"}, {"end": "00:07:33", "start": "00:07:29", "text": "or if it was subsequent interview but he"}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:31", "text": "talks"}, {"end": "00:07:38", "start": "00:07:33", "text": "about him seeing one uh and then"}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "communicating telepathically and Tim"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:38", "text": "Timothy good in my book was very"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "credible guy like I you know he's a"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "prolific writer and and and uh"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "considered to be a a really good"}, {"end": "00:07:51", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "researcher so that kind of got my"}, {"end": "00:07:54", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "attention a little bit about 20 years"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:51", "text": "ago 2008 or no 2009 I was at some place"}, {"end": "00:08:02", "start": "00:07:54", "text": "in uh in Vegas I'm talking to um an army"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "colonel retired colonel who had a lot of"}, {"end": "00:08:06", "start": "00:08:02", "text": "experience with black projects he was a"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "brilliant guy and he told me a story"}, {"end": "00:08:11", "start": "00:08:06", "text": "about he and his wife his wife was with"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "him when he told the story and they had"}, {"end": "00:08:16", "start": "00:08:11", "text": "another friend a female friend and they"}, {"end": "00:08:19", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "were at a Las Vegas casino and he said"}, {"end": "00:08:21", "start": "00:08:16", "text": "uh this guy by the way knew a lot about"}, {"end": "00:08:23", "start": "00:08:19", "text": "the UFO subject but he said We're on our"}, {"end": "00:08:25", "start": "00:08:21", "text": "own time. We're hanging out at a casino."}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:23", "text": "I think it was the win actually, which"}, {"end": "00:08:28", "start": "00:08:25", "text": "is a great casino hotel, but I can't"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "recall. He said, \"We're up there. We're"}, {"end": "00:08:32", "start": "00:08:28", "text": "on the second floor.\" And our friend,"}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "who was, he said, was a"}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:32", "text": "psychic, she stops two of them, and she"}, {"end": "00:08:41", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "says, \"That woman over there is not"}, {"end": "00:08:43", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "human.\" And they look over and there's"}, {"end": "00:08:45", "start": "00:08:41", "text": "this very beautiful blonde woman in this"}, {"end": "00:08:48", "start": "00:08:43", "text": "striking blue outfit. Now, it's Las"}, {"end": "00:08:50", "start": "00:08:45", "text": "Vegas. Yeah, you get that there. Sure."}, {"end": "00:08:53", "start": "00:08:48", "text": "Blue is interesting, too. Oh, yes. Yes."}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:50", "text": "She and his wife get scared and they go"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:53", "text": "down the escalator which is right there."}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "The colonel is is hanging behind and"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "he's he's looking at this woman and he"}, {"end": "00:09:04", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "said to me and that's when I heard her"}, {"end": "00:09:08", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "in my"}, {"end": "00:09:10", "start": "00:09:04", "text": "mind. She turned slightly and he said I"}, {"end": "00:09:14", "start": "00:09:08", "text": "heard her. She sounded like a cop on the"}, {"end": "00:09:15", "start": "00:09:10", "text": "beat like nothing to see here. Go about"}, {"end": "00:09:17", "start": "00:09:14", "text": "your"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:15", "text": "business. You don't belong. Like and"}, {"end": "00:09:21", "start": "00:09:17", "text": "he's he's like how did I get that"}, {"end": "00:09:24", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "thought? And at that moment she's joined"}, {"end": "00:09:27", "start": "00:09:21", "text": "by this beautiful blonde man wearing"}, {"end": "00:09:29", "start": "00:09:24", "text": "blue again at you thinking cir to sole"}, {"end": "00:09:31", "start": "00:09:27", "text": "like I don't know what this could be but"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:29", "text": "so they're hanging out they're"}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:31", "text": "conferring he doesn't hear anything at"}, {"end": "00:09:38", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "this point so then they start walking"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "toward the escalator where he is so this"}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:38", "text": "guy is a colonel he has a PhD he's a"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "sharp guy and he's thinking I am going"}, {"end": "00:09:48", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "to talk to these people I don't know"}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "what I'm going to say but I I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:48", "text": "talk to them I find out what the hell is"}, {"end": "00:09:55", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "going on here. So they walk toward him"}, {"end": "00:09:56", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "and instead he says nothing. They get on"}, {"end": "00:09:59", "start": "00:09:55", "text": "the escalator, they go down, but then he"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:56", "text": "gets behind them and he said to"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:09:59", "text": "me, \"I heard them conversing in their"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "minds.\" I said, \"Do you know that they"}, {"end": "00:10:07", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "weren't talking?\" He says, \"Look, I'm"}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "pretty damn sure they weren't talking."}, {"end": "00:10:12", "start": "00:10:07", "text": "I'm hearing.\" What were they saying?"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "Well, they were saying something like,"}, {"end": "00:10:17", "start": "00:10:12", "text": "\"Yeah, he can hear us.\" \"No, he's not"}, {"end": "00:10:19", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "important. he's not part of like part of"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:17", "text": "the program or he's not part of he's not"}, {"end": "00:10:22", "start": "00:10:19", "text": "part of anything we need to worry about."}, {"end": "00:10:25", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "At this point his wife interjected in"}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:22", "text": "the story. She was hilarious. She's"}, {"end": "00:10:29", "start": "00:10:25", "text": "like, \"Oh yes, I remember this. My"}, {"end": "00:10:33", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "friend and I were peeking around the"}, {"end": "00:10:35", "start": "00:10:29", "text": "slot machines of this like hiding behind"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:33", "text": "the slot machine.\" So that was kind of"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:35", "text": "nice little confirmation there. But"}, {"end": "00:10:40", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "anyways, the couple gets down to the"}, {"end": "00:10:43", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "bottom of the escalator and they walk"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:40", "text": "out and they're gone. So then the three"}, {"end": "00:10:49", "start": "00:10:43", "text": "of them are conferring and they're"}, {"end": "00:10:52", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "like that was crazy. So the the woman"}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:49", "text": "the psychic friend also did uh"}, {"end": "00:10:56", "start": "00:10:52", "text": "aggressive"}, {"end": "00:10:59", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "hypnosis and she says you know I could"}, {"end": "00:11:01", "start": "00:10:56", "text": "regress you Colonel uh so that maybe you"}, {"end": "00:11:03", "start": "00:10:59", "text": "can relax and and maybe you can remember"}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:11:01", "text": "if there's anything more that you can"}, {"end": "00:11:07", "start": "00:11:03", "text": "remember about what you think you heard."}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "I guess that was the plan. So he's like"}, {"end": "00:11:12", "start": "00:11:07", "text": "all right cool. So he goes a day or two"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "later, he's at her place in this"}, {"end": "00:11:18", "start": "00:11:12", "text": "culde-sac quiet neighborhood and he said"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "every time that she tried to regress me,"}, {"end": "00:11:22", "start": "00:11:18", "text": "we heard like construction noise outside"}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "like jackhammers. He they would go out"}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:22", "text": "to look and they didn't see anything. So"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "he says, \"No biggie. I'll be back in"}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "about a month. Maybe we can get together"}, {"end": "00:11:36", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "and do this stench.\" He's like, \"Great.\""}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "So month later, he calls her. He says,"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:36", "text": "\"Hey, I'm going to be in town. Can we do"}, {"end": "00:11:45", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "that regression?\" She says, \"What"}, {"end": "00:11:47", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "regression?\" The regression last month,"}, {"end": "00:11:50", "start": "00:11:45", "text": "Las Vegas. Apparently, she remembered"}, {"end": "00:11:52", "start": "00:11:47", "text": "nothing of this encounter. I have one"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:50", "text": "more story that I have to tell you. And"}, {"end": "00:11:56", "start": "00:11:52", "text": "then in"}, {"end": "00:11:58", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "2010, I had just put out a film called I"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:56", "text": "Know What I Saw, which was a two-hour"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:58", "text": "special I sold to History Channel. And"}, {"end": "00:12:05", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "uh I got a I got an email from Robert"}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "Bigalow and it said uh it was actually"}, {"end": "00:12:09", "start": "00:12:05", "text": "from a secretary. It said uh this is"}, {"end": "00:12:12", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "secretary, you know, Mr. Bigalow wanted"}, {"end": "00:12:14", "start": "00:12:09", "text": "me to reach out on his behalf that uh"}, {"end": "00:12:19", "start": "00:12:12", "text": "congratulations on a on a job well done"}, {"end": "00:12:21", "start": "00:12:14", "text": "with your doc. Wow. Robert Bigalow."}, {"end": "00:12:23", "start": "00:12:19", "text": "Whoa. I emailed back like, \"Hey, would"}, {"end": "00:12:25", "start": "00:12:21", "text": "he like to get together like maybe lunch"}, {"end": "00:12:27", "start": "00:12:23", "text": "or dinner, you know, discuss, you know,"}, {"end": "00:12:28", "start": "00:12:25", "text": "kind of some of my next moves?\" Little"}, {"end": "00:12:30", "start": "00:12:27", "text": "did I know at the time he had just"}, {"end": "00:12:33", "start": "00:12:28", "text": "signed a contract just a couple years"}, {"end": "00:12:36", "start": "00:12:30", "text": "earlier, right, with OAP and ATIP. And"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:33", "text": "uh she Yeah, sure. He'll he love he'd"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:36", "text": "love to meet you. Come to his house. So"}, {"end": "00:12:42", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "I went to his house 2009 2010. I'd have"}, {"end": "00:12:47", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "to look it up the emails somewhere"}, {"end": "00:12:50", "start": "00:12:42", "text": "around there. And uh we we had lunch and"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:47", "text": "he started talking about you know the"}, {"end": "00:12:54", "start": "00:12:50", "text": "implications of disclosure, the impacts"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "on society. I remember him saying, you"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:54", "text": "know, you take every scandal from Iran"}, {"end": "00:13:02", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "Contra to Monica Lewinsky, all these"}, {"end": "00:13:04", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "scandals in the history of like modern"}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:02", "text": "history and multiply them the impact"}, {"end": "00:13:08", "start": "00:13:04", "text": "those have had, multiply that by a"}, {"end": "00:13:10", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "million and that's the impact, you know,"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:08", "text": "this reality would have on the on the on"}, {"end": "00:13:14", "start": "00:13:10", "text": "the general public. And I remember"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "thinking, come on, like really, you"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:14", "text": "really think? So I've always thought"}, {"end": "00:13:19", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "like, oh, you know, we really had this,"}, {"end": "00:13:21", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "you know, unifying effect on everybody."}, {"end": "00:13:24", "start": "00:13:19", "text": "And then he goes, and uh they're walking"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:21", "text": "among us. And I"}, {"end": "00:13:28", "start": "00:13:24", "text": "said, \"What do you what do you mean?"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "What do you mean they're walking among"}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:28", "text": "us?\" He goes, \"I mean exactly that."}, {"end": "00:13:33", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "They're they're walking among"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "us.\" I had had something happen to me a"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:39", "text": "couple years earlier which I've never"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "spoken about ever because I would"}, {"end": "00:13:49", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "know. And and even"}, {"end": "00:13:54", "start": "00:13:49", "text": "that when that happened, I didn't talk"}, {"end": "00:13:56", "start": "00:13:51", "text": "to anybody about it. Not even no one."}, {"end": "00:13:57", "start": "00:13:54", "text": "And even when he told me that, I still"}, {"end": "00:14:02", "start": "00:13:56", "text": "didn't talk about"}, {"end": "00:14:06", "start": "00:13:57", "text": "it because I had saw something one time"}, {"end": "00:14:09", "start": "00:14:02", "text": "in 2007. So 2 years later, I'm in um"}, {"end": "00:14:10", "start": "00:14:06", "text": "Eerie, Pennsylvania. I got my table. I'm"}, {"end": "00:14:13", "start": "00:14:09", "text": "selling my little books to him, I think."}, {"end": "00:14:15", "start": "00:14:10", "text": "And this very nice lady, she's about 60,"}, {"end": "00:14:17", "start": "00:14:13", "text": "walks up to my table with her husband"}, {"end": "00:14:21", "start": "00:14:15", "text": "and she says, \"I got a story for you. C"}, {"end": "00:14:23", "start": "00:14:17", "text": "can I tell you?\" Like, \"Yeah.\" So, she"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:21", "text": "says, \"When I was 15 years old, it would"}, {"end": "00:14:28", "start": "00:14:23", "text": "be about"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "1965. Uh, I was in church in western"}, {"end": "00:14:33", "start": "00:14:28", "text": "Pennsylvania in a tiny little town with"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "my mother.\" And she said, \"In our town,"}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:33", "text": "everyone knew everyone, especially in"}, {"end": "00:14:41", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "church.\" So, she's in church."}, {"end": "00:14:45", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "So she said, \"In front of me, in front"}, {"end": "00:14:47", "start": "00:14:41", "text": "of the aisle ahead of us, were this"}, {"end": "00:14:49", "start": "00:14:45", "text": "blonde couple, male, female, come"}, {"end": "00:14:52", "start": "00:14:47", "text": "walking in.\" She says, \"They were"}, {"end": "00:14:54", "start": "00:14:49", "text": "absolutely gorgeous. They looked like"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:52", "text": "supermodels.\" She said they had this"}, {"end": "00:14:59", "start": "00:14:54", "text": "incredible blue clothing. I was looking"}, {"end": "00:15:01", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "at the fabric. She's 15year-old girl, so"}, {"end": "00:15:04", "start": "00:14:59", "text": "she's into fashion. She said, \"I have"}, {"end": "00:15:06", "start": "00:15:01", "text": "never seen such"}, {"end": "00:15:09", "start": "00:15:04", "text": "incredible beautiful clothing.\" And"}, {"end": "00:15:11", "start": "00:15:06", "text": "she's she's marveling and thinking, why"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:09", "text": "is no one else in this church looking at"}, {"end": "00:15:15", "start": "00:15:11", "text": "these two people? She said they stuck"}, {"end": "00:15:18", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "out like a sore thumb. It's like, you"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:15", "text": "know, Marilyn Monroe and uh you know,"}, {"end": "00:15:23", "start": "00:15:18", "text": "Carrie Grant could not walk in them."}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "Yeah. So, um but no one was noticing"}, {"end": "00:15:27", "start": "00:15:23", "text": "them apparently. And then she said to"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "me, and that's when I heard them in my"}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:27", "text": "mind. And what she heard was one of them"}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "thinking to the other something like,"}, {"end": "00:15:39", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "\"Well, we appear to be fitting in pretty"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "well"}, {"end": "00:15:45", "start": "00:15:39", "text": "here.\" And she's like, and then and then"}, {"end": "00:15:47", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "one of them, maybe the same one, I don't"}, {"end": "00:15:50", "start": "00:15:45", "text": "know, said, \"Except for the girl behind"}, {"end": "00:15:53", "start": "00:15:47", "text": "us who can hear us.\""}, {"end": "00:15:55", "start": "00:15:50", "text": "And uh that's what she's like"}, {"end": "00:15:57", "start": "00:15:53", "text": "practically freaking out after that. She"}, {"end": "00:15:58", "start": "00:15:55", "text": "heard nothing. It's like they shut it"}, {"end": "00:16:00", "start": "00:15:57", "text": "down. The other thing she said about"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:58", "text": "them is that they're in mass and they"}, {"end": "00:16:04", "start": "00:16:00", "text": "didn't really know how to This is a"}, {"end": "00:16:06", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "Catholic mass which I grew up doing. You"}, {"end": "00:16:08", "start": "00:16:04", "text": "know, sit in the old sign of the cross,"}, {"end": "00:16:09", "start": "00:16:06", "text": "all that. They're like looking around."}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:08", "text": "They don't know what to do. So they"}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:09", "text": "clearly did not fit in. Just trying to"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "fit in, right? So it gets better. So she"}, {"end": "00:16:22", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "goes through the whole mass. Mass ends."}, {"end": "00:16:26", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "The couple is up and out and they book"}, {"end": "00:16:28", "start": "00:16:22", "text": "it out of the church and she decides I'm"}, {"end": "00:16:31", "start": "00:16:26", "text": "going after them and she's following."}, {"end": "00:16:33", "start": "00:16:28", "text": "They go down this hill. There's a field"}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:31", "text": "and there's a wooded area. So, they're"}, {"end": "00:16:38", "start": "00:16:33", "text": "not going to a parking lot or a car. So,"}, {"end": "00:16:41", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "that's kind of interesting, too. Let's"}, {"end": "00:16:44", "start": "00:16:38", "text": "just like note that little discrep that"}, {"end": "00:16:46", "start": "00:16:41", "text": "little bit. So, she's going across the"}, {"end": "00:16:49", "start": "00:16:44", "text": "field. She's going down this the hill"}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:46", "text": "and then she stops dead in her tracks."}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:49", "text": "She said, \"Then I saw a third person at"}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "the entrance of the wooded area.\" She"}, {"end": "00:17:00", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "said, \"Remember Lurch from the Adams"}, {"end": "00:17:03", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "family? Looked just like that guy."}, {"end": "00:17:05", "start": "00:17:00", "text": "Terrifying. Very tall. Like a man in"}, {"end": "00:17:08", "start": "00:17:03", "text": "black, but very tall. Kind of un gangly,"}, {"end": "00:17:11", "start": "00:17:05", "text": "unggainainely tall. Hat and a black suit"}, {"end": "00:17:15", "start": "00:17:08", "text": "apparently. And this beautiful blonde"}, {"end": "00:17:17", "start": "00:17:11", "text": "supermodel couple from Venus or Pleaides"}, {"end": "00:17:21", "start": "00:17:15", "text": "or wherever they're from walk past him"}, {"end": "00:17:22", "start": "00:17:17", "text": "into the woods into the woods. He turns"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:21", "text": "around and follows them. And that was"}, {"end": "00:17:26", "start": "00:17:22", "text": "her"}, {"end": "00:17:28", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "story. I made eye contact with this"}, {"end": "00:17:29", "start": "00:17:26", "text": "individual and it was like an immediate"}, {"end": "00:17:32", "start": "00:17:28", "text": "and I'd never really like considered"}, {"end": "00:17:33", "start": "00:17:29", "text": "this even in the realm of possibility."}, {"end": "00:17:35", "start": "00:17:32", "text": "And I still don't know what I think to"}, {"end": "00:17:38", "start": "00:17:33", "text": "be honest with you, what I really"}, {"end": "00:17:39", "start": "00:17:35", "text": "believe at the end of the day. But uh we"}, {"end": "00:17:42", "start": "00:17:38", "text": "had a"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:39", "text": "telepathic just like that. Can you"}, {"end": "00:17:48", "start": "00:17:42", "text": "describe what the situation"}, {"end": "00:17:50", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "was and what this individual looked"}, {"end": "00:17:52", "start": "00:17:48", "text": "like?"}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:50", "text": "I I don't know if I want to go public"}, {"end": "00:17:57", "start": "00:17:52", "text": "fully on where it was, but it happened"}, {"end": "00:17:59", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "in Washington DC. Okay. Yeah. And uh the"}, {"end": "00:18:02", "start": "00:17:57", "text": "individual looked like a normal"}, {"end": "00:18:06", "start": "00:17:59", "text": "relatively a normal person."}, {"end": "00:18:09", "start": "00:18:02", "text": "Um and and the individual I remember was"}, {"end": "00:18:11", "start": "00:18:06", "text": "doing like was like moving a chair or"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:09", "text": "something like that and he this"}, {"end": "00:18:17", "start": "00:18:11", "text": "individual sensed that I was looking at"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "him for whatever reason kind of doing"}, {"end": "00:18:21", "start": "00:18:17", "text": "this like maybe dragging a chair and"}, {"end": "00:18:25", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "then turned around and looked me right"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:21", "text": "in the eyes and it was like holy"}, {"end": "00:18:33", "start": "00:18:25", "text": "like in myself. I wasn't scared, but I"}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:29", "text": "it was like a like you're not human like"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:33", "text": "but it was"}, {"end": "00:18:38", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "really the individual knew that that was"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "the communication that the individual"}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:38", "text": "gave to me and knew that I had received"}, {"end": "00:18:47", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "it and it knew that you knew. Yes. Yes."}, {"end": "00:18:51", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "Like in in in an instant and I knew it"}, {"end": "00:18:54", "start": "00:18:47", "text": "knew and it was I was okay. big blue"}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:51", "text": "like electric blue eyes like like"}, {"end": "00:18:58", "start": "00:18:54", "text": "piercing like freeze in your tracks when"}, {"end": "00:19:02", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "you when you got eye when I made eye"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:58", "text": "contact. I never told a soul because I"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:02", "text": "sound like a crazy guy and I I I and I"}, {"end": "00:19:09", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "don't know what I I don't even know what"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "I saw. I tell you what that was the"}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:09", "text": "communication that happened and it"}, {"end": "00:19:15", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "happened like that like like that and I"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "wasn't scared. What do they look like?"}, {"end": "00:19:18", "start": "00:19:15", "text": "The eyes. No. What do the person look"}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "like? Was it like a normal person? Dark"}, {"end": "00:19:25", "start": "00:19:18", "text": "skin. Yeah. Um, relatively, uh, not sure"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "of the ethnicity. I'm not not Swedish or"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:25", "text": "anything. Wasn't like Scandinavian tall"}, {"end": "00:19:32", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "particularly. Do you remember? Not tall."}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "Just regular looking. Yeah. Mhm. What"}, {"end": "00:19:37", "start": "00:19:32", "text": "made you look in that direction? I don't"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "know. And I I I I just just remember it"}, {"end": "00:19:43", "start": "00:19:37", "text": "was like, you know, and we It was"}, {"end": "00:19:45", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "immediate. And you knew immediate"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:43", "text": "communication just bam like"}, {"end": "00:19:49", "start": "00:19:45", "text": "that. And I wasn't scared. And then I"}, {"end": "00:19:50", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "went about my business and I never"}, {"end": "00:19:53", "start": "00:19:49", "text": "talked about it. But it stuck with you."}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:50", "text": "Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I didn't"}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:53", "text": "believe it. I didn't even believe it."}, {"end": "00:19:58", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "You see my point? Like I didn't believe"}, {"end": "00:20:00", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "that that happened to me. But then I'm"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:58", "text": "hearing other people talk about it. You"}, {"end": "00:20:04", "start": "00:20:00", "text": "know, Timothy Good and then Piccolo, the"}, {"end": "00:20:08", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "encounter, the alleged encounter in the"}, {"end": "00:20:10", "start": "00:20:04", "text": "desert if from 2000 of 1994 in Nellis"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:08", "text": "test range that Mr. Sans talks about."}, {"end": "00:20:13", "start": "00:20:10", "text": "You know, I don't know. Did it happen?"}, {"end": "00:20:15", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "Did"}, {"end": "00:20:17", "start": "00:20:13", "text": "I do these things happen? Are they"}, {"end": "00:20:19", "start": "00:20:15", "text": "walking among us? I don't know. I don't"}, {"end": "00:20:22", "start": "00:20:17", "text": "know. The Travis one is the one I"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:19", "text": "consider to be the most important. When"}, {"end": "00:20:27", "start": "00:20:22", "text": "he got from a from a distance, they look"}, {"end": "00:20:29", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "100% like humans, but the closer he got,"}, {"end": "00:20:31", "start": "00:20:27", "text": "he said, and I looked at this one"}, {"end": "00:20:33", "start": "00:20:29", "text": "person, he was very close to him, and he"}, {"end": "00:20:36", "start": "00:20:31", "text": "said the eyes gave him away right away"}, {"end": "00:20:39", "start": "00:20:33", "text": "that he's not human. So that totally got"}, {"end": "00:20:44", "start": "00:20:36", "text": "my attention because I thought that that"}, {"end": "00:20:47", "start": "00:20:39", "text": "is very peculiar to have this faction of"}, {"end": "00:20:49", "start": "00:20:44", "text": "the story of Travis Walton who I think"}, {"end": "00:20:51", "start": "00:20:47", "text": "has proven himself through the years"}, {"end": "00:20:54", "start": "00:20:49", "text": "with lie detector tests and and"}, {"end": "00:20:57", "start": "00:20:51", "text": "collaborative witness accounts that he"}, {"end": "00:21:00", "start": "00:20:54", "text": "did have an experience and he insisted"}, {"end": "00:21:02", "start": "00:20:57", "text": "of these tall humanlooking blonde beings"}, {"end": "00:21:04", "start": "00:21:00", "text": "that were there. Two males and one"}, {"end": "00:21:06", "start": "00:21:02", "text": "female. Crazy strong too. very strong."}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:04", "text": "They were like even the women put him"}, {"end": "00:21:11", "start": "00:21:06", "text": "down effortlessly. He mean he was he's a"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "6'2 big guy big guy very m at the time"}, {"end": "00:21:17", "start": "00:21:11", "text": "he was in yeah he's he's in the top of"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "his of his shape at at that time. So he"}, {"end": "00:21:23", "start": "00:21:17", "text": "was very he said I was very strong and"}, {"end": "00:21:25", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "they were able to to to move me very"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:23", "text": "easily like if it was a a mechanical"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:25", "text": "thing moving him. So that's that means"}, {"end": "00:21:35", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "they're they're stronger. They also had"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "the wildest, most sci-fi feature about"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:35", "text": "them other than the suits they were"}, {"end": "00:21:40", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "wearing. They were they had fishbowls."}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "Now, this is something straight out of"}, {"end": "00:21:44", "start": "00:21:40", "text": "the Jetsons."}, {"end": "00:21:46", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "And the only reason I found that"}, {"end": "00:21:51", "start": "00:21:44", "text": "intriguing is because there is another"}, {"end": "00:21:52", "start": "00:21:46", "text": "case in the UK of a lady seeing a saucer"}, {"end": "00:21:54", "start": "00:21:51", "text": "just hanging in the air and the"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:52", "text": "occupants being blonde. That's right."}, {"end": "00:22:00", "start": "00:21:54", "text": "Also had fishbowls. That's right. All I"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "can describe this huge Mexican"}, {"end": "00:22:06", "start": "00:22:00", "text": "hat. It was stationary, this thing, and"}, {"end": "00:22:10", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "it was bright silver in color. And it"}, {"end": "00:22:14", "start": "00:22:06", "text": "had a dome. A dome. It was"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:10", "text": "tilted to sort of I could see the"}, {"end": "00:22:18", "start": "00:22:14", "text": "occupants in it. You saw people in it. I"}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "saw people in it. There were two people"}, {"end": "00:22:22", "start": "00:22:18", "text": "in there."}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "Um, these"}, {"end": "00:22:28", "start": "00:22:22", "text": "people were beautiful people. That's the"}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "only way I can describe them. Um, they"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:28", "text": "had long golden hair like a page boy"}, {"end": "00:22:35", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "page boy Bob just like the old kings."}, {"end": "00:22:38", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "You used to see photographs of the old"}, {"end": "00:22:43", "start": "00:22:35", "text": "kings and the the color of the hair was"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:38", "text": "golden. Now I was really dressed in they"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:43", "text": "had a sort of a neck jumper affair like"}, {"end": "00:22:54", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "a ski top suit in a in pale blue. Now,"}, {"end": "00:22:55", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "these people weren't sat behind one"}, {"end": "00:22:58", "start": "00:22:54", "text": "behind the other. They were sat"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:55", "text": "together. But this, whatever it was, was"}, {"end": "00:23:03", "start": "00:22:58", "text": "tilted so that I could see them and they"}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "could see me. They had beautiful faces."}, {"end": "00:23:07", "start": "00:23:03", "text": "I shall never forget their faces as long"}, {"end": "00:23:11", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "as I live. Their foreheads seem to be a"}, {"end": "00:23:14", "start": "00:23:07", "text": "bit larger than, you know, the the"}, {"end": "00:23:17", "start": "00:23:11", "text": "bottom of their faces as as normal"}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:14", "text": "people you would expect to see."}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:17", "text": "But um maybe this is what was was just"}, {"end": "00:23:24", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "the whatever they had around their heads"}, {"end": "00:23:27", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "which was like a transparent"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:24", "text": "fishbowl and they just looked and I was"}, {"end": "00:23:31", "start": "00:23:27", "text": "absolutely paralytic with fear. I"}, {"end": "00:23:32", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "couldn't move although my mind was"}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:31", "text": "ticking"}, {"end": "00:23:38", "start": "00:23:32", "text": "over and they looked so sympathetic."}, {"end": "00:23:41", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:23:42", "start": "00:23:38", "text": "Um but it's the mantises that seem to be"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:41", "text": "calling the shots. So I'm very"}, {"end": "00:23:46", "start": "00:23:42", "text": "interested in them. And the personal"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "side of it is I dig mantises. So, I I"}, {"end": "00:23:53", "start": "00:23:46", "text": "had this um I have a mantis sanctuary at"}, {"end": "00:23:55", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "my home. I I I had a I found this thing"}, {"end": "00:23:59", "start": "00:23:53", "text": "floating in my pool. It's now 10 years"}, {"end": "00:24:01", "start": "00:23:55", "text": "ago and I thought it was a piece of wood"}, {"end": "00:24:03", "start": "00:23:59", "text": "and I scooped it out and I realized, oh"}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:24:01", "text": "man, it's a praying mantis. Looks like"}, {"end": "00:24:06", "start": "00:24:03", "text": "it's dead. You know what? I'm going to"}, {"end": "00:24:08", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "put it over here in the in the courtyard"}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:06", "text": "and see if it comes back alive. I come"}, {"end": "00:24:11", "start": "00:24:08", "text": "out a half hour later, open the front"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "door, there's that damn mantis at the"}, {"end": "00:24:16", "start": "00:24:11", "text": "doors stop looking up trying to get in"}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "the house. I go, \"No, no, no. Hold on"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:16", "text": "there, little buddy.\" Scooped it up and"}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "I put it, we have a flower bed. And in"}, {"end": "00:24:25", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "the spring, we grow mint and it flowers."}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "I put it in there. Best of luck to you."}, {"end": "00:24:31", "start": "00:24:25", "text": "And that was a girl mantis because every"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "year since then on the 1st of May, I get"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:31", "text": "a crop of mantises. And I made it into a"}, {"end": "00:24:38", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "sanctuary. I protect it. I don't let any"}, {"end": "00:24:41", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "yard guy come in. I don't let any"}, {"end": "00:24:44", "start": "00:24:38", "text": "insecticides be sprayed there. But at"}, {"end": "00:24:46", "start": "00:24:41", "text": "first it was a dozen mantises that I"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:44", "text": "were born. Suddenly I've got a bunch of"}, {"end": "00:24:52", "start": "00:24:46", "text": "them. The second and third year it's"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "several dozen. Then it was hundreds. And"}, {"end": "00:24:56", "start": "00:24:52", "text": "um and then we had a a year each year"}, {"end": "00:24:58", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "gets a little harder because the climate"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:56", "text": "is changing whether people want to admit"}, {"end": "00:25:03", "start": "00:24:58", "text": "it or not. But I protect that like it's"}, {"end": "00:25:06", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "my own children. Um I I put up fences to"}, {"end": "00:25:08", "start": "00:25:03", "text": "keep people and animals and danger away"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:06", "text": "from those mattises. And um you know,"}, {"end": "00:25:11", "start": "00:25:08", "text": "it's part of it is because I just think"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "they're little fascinating creatures."}, {"end": "00:25:18", "start": "00:25:11", "text": "They're amazing. And then as I'm going"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "through UFO research, I learned that um"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:18", "text": "about these manted beings. And I"}, {"end": "00:25:23", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "figured, well, you know, it doesn't help"}, {"end": "00:25:26", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "to be in good with the mantises. When"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:23", "text": "the 8-ft tall ones land, maybe they put"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:26", "text": "a good word in with our new mantis"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "overlords. And I'm I'm only partially"}, {"end": "00:25:35", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "joking about that, but uh but I I love"}, {"end": "00:25:37", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "the mantises. I I protect them. I dig"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:35", "text": "them. They come back every year."}, {"end": "00:25:41", "start": "00:25:37", "text": "this year was I didn't know if I was"}, {"end": "00:25:43", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "going to have any left or not because so"}, {"end": "00:25:45", "start": "00:25:41", "text": "many of the adults ended up dead for one"}, {"end": "00:25:47", "start": "00:25:43", "text": "reason or another last year and I didn't"}, {"end": "00:25:49", "start": "00:25:45", "text": "see any of these little mantis condo"}, {"end": "00:25:51", "start": "00:25:47", "text": "towers that they are like egg sacks that"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:49", "text": "they leave. I didn't see any new ones."}, {"end": "00:25:56", "start": "00:25:51", "text": "So, I didn't know if they were going to"}, {"end": "00:25:58", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "come out until April 30th. I saw two"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:56", "text": "little mantises and I was just happy as"}, {"end": "00:26:02", "start": "00:25:58", "text": "And then May 1st, boom, there they"}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "are. Like right on like they've got a"}, {"end": "00:26:06", "start": "00:26:02", "text": "calendar or something. They every May"}, {"end": "00:26:08", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "1st. Yeah, every May 1st for This is the"}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:06", "text": "10th year. There was this story. Was it"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:08", "text": "called the mantis? This documentary man"}, {"end": "00:26:16", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "versus mantis. Man versus mantis. This"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "was fascinating to me. So that was like"}, {"end": "00:26:21", "start": "00:26:16", "text": "right in the middle of my mantis"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "experiment, my sanctuary. As I somebody"}, {"end": "00:26:24", "start": "00:26:21", "text": "sent that story to me. I reached out to"}, {"end": "00:26:27", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "that guy. I had him on coast to coast."}, {"end": "00:26:30", "start": "00:26:24", "text": "He's a musician and a filmmaker, a"}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:27", "text": "fascinating guy, serious, smart, funny"}, {"end": "00:26:34", "start": "00:26:30", "text": "as hell. And he told me about this man"}, {"end": "00:26:36", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "versus man experience. And it what"}, {"end": "00:26:38", "start": "00:26:34", "text": "happened to him has happened to so many"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:36", "text": "other people is that once you connect"}, {"end": "00:26:41", "start": "00:26:38", "text": "with the mandises on some level you"}, {"end": "00:26:43", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "start seeing them everywhere and maybe"}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:41", "text": "it's just your awareness grows or"}, {"end": "00:26:47", "start": "00:26:43", "text": "something like that or but in his life"}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "suddenly it spread to everyone in his"}, {"end": "00:26:52", "start": "00:26:47", "text": "family um they're seeing mantises all"}, {"end": "00:26:54", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "over the place and have you ever had an"}, {"end": "00:26:56", "start": "00:26:52", "text": "encounter with a mantis that wasn't uh"}, {"end": "00:26:59", "start": "00:26:54", "text": "in my garden?"}, {"end": "00:27:02", "start": "00:26:56", "text": "No I have not. That'd be pretty cool."}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:59", "text": "Scary as hell but it'd be pretty cool. I"}, {"end": "00:27:10", "start": "00:27:02", "text": "hope so someday. What's your conviction"}, {"end": "00:27:14", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "on these mantids being real?"}, {"end": "00:27:17", "start": "00:27:10", "text": "I'd say somewhere around 60%. Um I don't"}, {"end": "00:27:18", "start": "00:27:14", "text": "really know. Here's what I don't know. I"}, {"end": "00:27:20", "start": "00:27:17", "text": "don't know what they really look like."}, {"end": "00:27:22", "start": "00:27:18", "text": "You know what what we have learned from"}, {"end": "00:27:25", "start": "00:27:20", "text": "this phenomena in the big picture. Not"}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:22", "text": "only did the the ships change shapes,"}, {"end": "00:27:30", "start": "00:27:25", "text": "but the beings change shapes. Um, and"}, {"end": "00:27:32", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "sometimes it happens while abductees are"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:30", "text": "on board these craft, if it's really"}, {"end": "00:27:36", "start": "00:27:32", "text": "that craft. They manipulate our"}, {"end": "00:27:37", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "perceptions in so many ways. I'm not"}, {"end": "00:27:38", "start": "00:27:36", "text": "sure we really know what any of them"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:37", "text": "look"}, {"end": "00:27:43", "start": "00:27:38", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:27:49", "start": "00:27:45", "text": "like. I tend to think more of like"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:47", "text": "intradimensional. And the reason I"}, {"end": "00:27:54", "start": "00:27:49", "text": "started doing DMT after maybe having"}, {"end": "00:27:58", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "done lots of drugs in my younger days is"}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:54", "text": "that I see it as perhaps not a"}, {"end": "00:28:03", "start": "00:27:58", "text": "hallucinogenic psychedelic drug but a"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "plant medicine technology that allows us"}, {"end": "00:28:09", "start": "00:28:03", "text": "access. So if I had to pick a"}, {"end": "00:28:12", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "favorite, I would say yeah, maybe the"}, {"end": "00:28:14", "start": "00:28:09", "text": "machine elves in the DMT realm because I"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:12", "text": "have a feeling that aliens as we know"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:14", "text": "them are probably AI. They've gone"}, {"end": "00:28:20", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "through their own Kersswian singularity"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "probably millions of years more advanced"}, {"end": "00:28:25", "start": "00:28:20", "text": "than us and then can perhaps instantiate"}, {"end": "00:28:30", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "as needed in biological synthetic form"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:25", "text": "and that DMT denisens so to speak are in"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:30", "text": "turn billions of years more advanced"}, {"end": "00:28:39", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "than us and I asked them during a DMT"}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "session are you what we feel to be"}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:39", "text": "aliens and UFOs and the answer I got"}, {"end": "00:28:46", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "back trillions of miles of synapses"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "firing was we can't explain in a way"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:46", "text": "that you would understand."}, {"end": "00:28:54", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "That's powerful but also convenient."}, {"end": "00:28:56", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "Well, and it's not it didn't feel to me"}, {"end": "00:28:58", "start": "00:28:54", "text": "like deflecting. Sure. But it it felt to"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:56", "text": "me like, okay, if an ant is looking at a"}, {"end": "00:29:02", "start": "00:28:58", "text": "Chevrolet transmission, what are they"}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "going to understand? Even if that you"}, {"end": "00:29:08", "start": "00:29:02", "text": "started explaining there's no point. And"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "so, and I that's not no. And it just"}, {"end": "00:29:11", "start": "00:29:08", "text": "seems to me a lot of people, especially"}, {"end": "00:29:13", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "at this conference, my good friends are"}, {"end": "00:29:15", "start": "00:29:11", "text": "working on disclosure. They got that"}, {"end": "00:29:17", "start": "00:29:13", "text": "covered. So, I'm going the end round."}, {"end": "00:29:20", "start": "00:29:15", "text": "the exposure to see if I can't do the"}, {"end": "00:29:22", "start": "00:29:17", "text": "Andrew Gallammorian route of going to"}, {"end": "00:29:23", "start": "00:29:20", "text": "the source. And I think that's where"}, {"end": "00:29:26", "start": "00:29:22", "text": "they are. That's where they're going to"}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:23", "text": "be and where we're going to be. If we"}, {"end": "00:29:29", "start": "00:29:26", "text": "can survive this transition, I'm less"}, {"end": "00:29:31", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "afraid about the future of artificial"}, {"end": "00:29:33", "start": "00:29:29", "text": "intelligence than the present of human"}, {"end": "00:29:36", "start": "00:29:31", "text": "stupidity. We might not make it until a"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:33", "text": "singularity. Uh, one that I found very"}, {"end": "00:29:40", "start": "00:29:36", "text": "interesting, we're filming an episode of"}, {"end": "00:29:41", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "Australian TV show. They're doing like a"}, {"end": "00:29:44", "start": "00:29:40", "text": "different psychedelic each episode. I'm"}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:41", "text": "the DMT guy. And so we had a husband and"}, {"end": "00:29:51", "start": "00:29:44", "text": "wife doing DMT and the wife was crying."}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "I mean deep sobbing the whole time. And"}, {"end": "00:29:53", "start": "00:29:51", "text": "for those of us who've done"}, {"end": "00:29:56", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "psychedelics, that's not necessarily"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:53", "text": "bad. This is not fun and games. It's"}, {"end": "00:30:01", "start": "00:29:56", "text": "more like work. It could be therapy. And"}, {"end": "00:30:03", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "so afterwards, we asked her on camera,"}, {"end": "00:30:06", "start": "00:30:01", "text": "what did you experience? And this wasn't"}, {"end": "00:30:08", "start": "00:30:03", "text": "so much an other entity story, but I'm"}, {"end": "00:30:11", "start": "00:30:06", "text": "going to loop it back around. She said"}, {"end": "00:30:17", "start": "00:30:08", "text": "that she saw the creation of her"}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:11", "text": "soul and felt the attendant fear her not"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:17", "text": "yet instantiated soul felt about"}, {"end": "00:30:28", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "assuming human form and that helped her"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "understand some of her legacy fears that"}, {"end": "00:30:32", "start": "00:30:28", "text": "she carries with her today."}, {"end": "00:30:36", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "First time I did DMT and I asked that"}, {"end": "00:30:38", "start": "00:30:32", "text": "question, I felt that I saw the creators"}, {"end": "00:30:42", "start": "00:30:36", "text": "of the very fabric of the universe and I"}, {"end": "00:30:44", "start": "00:30:38", "text": "saw the universe, the new material being"}, {"end": "00:30:45", "start": "00:30:42", "text": "bubbled up and I saw the people around"}, {"end": "00:30:47", "start": "00:30:44", "text": "almost like a cauldron, like a galactic"}, {"end": "00:30:49", "start": "00:30:45", "text": "cauldron. What What do they look like"}, {"end": "00:30:51", "start": "00:30:47", "text": "these people? Do you have a Do you have"}, {"end": "00:30:54", "start": "00:30:49", "text": "like a a clear image or like a hazy"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:51", "text": "image or I don't Chris. Um I don't see"}, {"end": "00:31:00", "start": "00:30:54", "text": "so much. I feel them, right? and I felt"}, {"end": "00:31:03", "start": "00:30:57", "text": "them around there and I'm feeling wow"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "this this is the work of the universe"}, {"end": "00:31:08", "start": "00:31:03", "text": "and the other feeling I had was I'm on"}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "the other side of the universe but I'm"}, {"end": "00:31:13", "start": "00:31:08", "text": "home and then later that night when I I"}, {"end": "00:31:17", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "I circle back to DMT a lot I I did"}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:13", "text": "another session and this time it"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:17", "text": "was the universe coming into me and"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "healing me of emotional"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "trauma and I'm trying to receive it as"}, {"end": "00:31:29", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "much as I can two weeks later do it"}, {"end": "00:31:31", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "again and it said to me, \"Welcome back,"}, {"end": "00:31:33", "start": "00:31:29", "text": "Paul. Let's resume where we left off"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:31", "text": "last time.\" So, the universe remembered"}, {"end": "00:31:36", "start": "00:31:33", "text": "me by name and remembered our last"}, {"end": "00:31:40", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "appointment. Like a therapy session."}, {"end": "00:31:43", "start": "00:31:36", "text": "Yeah. So, I I find these things, these"}, {"end": "00:31:44", "start": "00:31:40", "text": "types of experiences, again, it seems to"}, {"end": "00:31:47", "start": "00:31:43", "text": "for"}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:44", "text": "me blur the lines between others and"}, {"end": "00:31:52", "start": "00:31:47", "text": "ourselves and whether those others are"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "consistent permanent state entities or"}, {"end": "00:31:55", "start": "00:31:52", "text": "if they may meld into others. What is"}, {"end": "00:32:00", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "your"}, {"end": "00:32:02", "start": "00:31:55", "text": "conviction on this particular type being"}, {"end": "00:32:04", "start": "00:32:00", "text": "real? Is it very high? I can 100%. That"}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:02", "text": "they exist that they exist. Do you think"}, {"end": "00:32:08", "start": "00:32:04", "text": "they're among us? These ones? I believe"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "so. I don't know about 100% on that"}, {"end": "00:32:15", "start": "00:32:08", "text": "because it's I I believe 100% that they"}, {"end": "00:32:20", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "exist, that they live among us. My"}, {"end": "00:32:23", "start": "00:32:15", "text": "conviction is maybe 95%. So I give 5% to"}, {"end": "00:32:26", "start": "00:32:20", "text": "who knows it could be complete, you"}, {"end": "00:32:28", "start": "00:32:23", "text": "know. bad misperceptions of people and"}, {"end": "00:32:30", "start": "00:32:26", "text": "you always have to leave a little bit. I"}, {"end": "00:32:33", "start": "00:32:28", "text": "do believe they exist. I don't know if"}, {"end": "00:32:39", "start": "00:32:30", "text": "they're among us. What's your conviction"}, {"end": "00:32:42", "start": "00:32:33", "text": "on these mantids being real?"}, {"end": "00:32:44", "start": "00:32:39", "text": "I'd say somewhere around 60%. Um, what's"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:42", "text": "your conviction on the Nordics being"}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:44", "text": "real?"}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:48", "text": "All low. It's low on everything. Yeah. I"}, {"end": "00:32:55", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "don't know. I the way I look at UFO"}, {"end": "00:32:57", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "research is"}, {"end": "00:32:59", "start": "00:32:55", "text": "uh that's not true. They're gradations"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:57", "text": "of probability. There being a phenomena"}, {"end": "00:33:02", "start": "00:32:59", "text": "that's real, I'm very high conviction."}, {"end": "00:33:05", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "Yeah, of course. Reality being weirder"}, {"end": "00:33:08", "start": "00:33:02", "text": "than we think. Very specific specific"}, {"end": "00:33:13", "start": "00:33:05", "text": "Nordic. Super low. Um super low but not"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:08", "text": "zero. Not zero. Not zero. Yeah. High low"}, {"end": "00:33:18", "start": "00:33:13", "text": "50% at this point. At this point I'm at"}, {"end": "00:33:21", "start": "00:33:16", "text": "80%."}, {"end": "00:33:22", "start": "00:33:18", "text": "It's pretty high. Yeah. Because if I had"}, {"end": "00:33:23", "start": "00:33:21", "text": "I was thinking about actually when I was"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:22", "text": "doing labs in the pool. I was thinking"}, {"end": "00:33:27", "start": "00:33:23", "text": "to myself if I had to like someone said"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "you got to make a decision. You have to"}, {"end": "00:33:33", "start": "00:33:27", "text": "make either yes or no. I was like I it"}, {"end": "00:33:36", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "would be yes. It would be yes because if"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:33", "text": "it was a no I would have to dismiss so"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:36", "text": "many testimonies. I'd have to dismiss"}, {"end": "00:33:43", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "all them including my own. Oh of the"}, {"end": "00:33:45", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "human looking type. Yes. Yeah. I would"}, {"end": "00:33:48", "start": "00:33:43", "text": "say 99 to 100%. I I have very little"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:45", "text": "doubt at this point. I mean it could be"}, {"end": "00:33:51", "start": "00:33:48", "text": "anywhere. And I I do think there's"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "enough evidence in different fields to"}, {"end": "00:33:56", "start": "00:33:51", "text": "suggest, let's say, metataterrestrials"}, {"end": "00:33:57", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "that there's something beyond our"}, {"end": "00:33:59", "start": "00:33:56", "text": "current awareness, something beyond"}, {"end": "00:34:02", "start": "00:33:57", "text": "super secret military"}, {"end": "00:34:04", "start": "00:33:59", "text": "capabilities. And I think there are is"}, {"end": "00:34:06", "start": "00:34:02", "text": "an other. And you ask if they're real."}, {"end": "00:34:09", "start": "00:34:04", "text": "So I think there's an objective reality"}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:06", "text": "to them, but there was kind of a nuance"}, {"end": "00:34:13", "start": "00:34:09", "text": "and I want to tease out what you said"}, {"end": "00:34:14", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "about are they real in how they appear."}, {"end": "00:34:16", "start": "00:34:13", "text": "That may not be the case. They may"}, {"end": "00:34:18", "start": "00:34:14", "text": "instantiate. And I have a hunch that a"}, {"end": "00:34:21", "start": "00:34:16", "text": "lot of things that we sort of silo as"}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:18", "text": "different phenomena may be essentially"}, {"end": "00:34:27", "start": "00:34:21", "text": "the same. There may be this root level"}, {"end": "00:34:29", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "of Kurtakian consciousness that manifest"}, {"end": "00:34:31", "start": "00:34:27", "text": "in different ways for different reasons."}, {"end": "00:34:33", "start": "00:34:29", "text": "You've got stories even go back"}, {"end": "00:34:35", "start": "00:34:31", "text": "centuries"}, {"end": "00:34:37", "start": "00:34:33", "text": "uh at times of"}, {"end": "00:34:39", "start": "00:34:35", "text": "intriguing encounters with beings that"}, {"end": "00:34:42", "start": "00:34:37", "text": "don't seem like they come from here. In"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:39", "text": "one of my books uh I recounted a story"}, {"end": "00:34:44", "start": "00:34:42", "text": "from a guy named uh the hell was his"}, {"end": "00:34:49", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "name? Fazio"}, {"end": "00:34:52", "start": "00:34:44", "text": "Cardano. He was uh 16th century Italian"}, {"end": "00:34:55", "start": "00:34:49", "text": "lawyer and uh I think he was a doctor,"}, {"end": "00:34:58", "start": "00:34:52", "text": "physician, a brilliant man. His"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:55", "text": "father Gerro Lammo Cardano was a friend"}, {"end": "00:35:03", "start": "00:34:58", "text": "of Leonardo da Vinci. So he's a very"}, {"end": "00:35:04", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "like high level people. So Fazio"}, {"end": "00:35:06", "start": "00:35:03", "text": "Cardano, who was known throughout"}, {"end": "00:35:09", "start": "00:35:04", "text": "Europe, he was a brilliant man. He said,"}, {"end": "00:35:11", "start": "00:35:06", "text": "\"My father uh told me for years of an"}, {"end": "00:35:15", "start": "00:35:09", "text": "encounter he had with this group of I"}, {"end": "00:35:19", "start": "00:35:11", "text": "think five guys who came into his studio"}, {"end": "00:35:21", "start": "00:35:15", "text": "one day and um told him"}, {"end": "00:35:24", "start": "00:35:19", "text": "about he said, \"We've been observing"}, {"end": "00:35:25", "start": "00:35:21", "text": "your people for many many years.\" He"}, {"end": "00:35:27", "start": "00:35:24", "text": "says, \"Who are you people? What are you"}, {"end": "00:35:29", "start": "00:35:25", "text": "like?\" Apparently they live for hundreds"}, {"end": "00:35:31", "start": "00:35:27", "text": "of years. He says, \"Do you believe in"}, {"end": "00:35:33", "start": "00:35:29", "text": "God?\" And he said, \"They looked at each"}, {"end": "00:35:35", "start": "00:35:31", "text": "other and and they had they didn't all"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:33", "text": "have the same opinion on that.\" Whoa."}, {"end": "00:35:40", "start": "00:35:35", "text": "like in the same way like that's that's"}, {"end": "00:35:42", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "a wonderful little it's a very"}, {"end": "00:35:48", "start": "00:35:40", "text": "interesting yeah"}, {"end": "00:35:50", "start": "00:35:42", "text": "um so a story like that I think I don't"}, {"end": "00:35:54", "start": "00:35:48", "text": "I can't just throw that out it it comes"}, {"end": "00:35:57", "start": "00:35:50", "text": "from it's 500 years old but Fazio"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:54", "text": "Cardano is a known highlevel individual"}, {"end": "00:36:01", "start": "00:35:57", "text": "of his time had a very high reputation"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "he's just telling this crazy story he's"}, {"end": "00:36:05", "start": "00:36:01", "text": "not talking about aliens no but these"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "were humanl looking beings He said their"}, {"end": "00:36:10", "start": "00:36:05", "text": "robes, their clothing was like perfect."}, {"end": "00:36:12", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "It's like amazing."}, {"end": "00:36:14", "start": "00:36:10", "text": "Uh I don't know. I can't remember if he"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:12", "text": "gave it colors. If star to star travel"}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:14", "text": "is possible, then let's go back in time"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "forever for millions and billions of"}, {"end": "00:36:26", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "years. Various entities, various species"}, {"end": "00:36:28", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "were able to move around the galaxy and"}, {"end": "00:36:30", "start": "00:36:26", "text": "and and and where they really was their"}, {"end": "00:36:32", "start": "00:36:28", "text": "interest, right? We want to check out"}, {"end": "00:36:34", "start": "00:36:30", "text": "those moon rocks, you know, or uh you"}, {"end": "00:36:36", "start": "00:36:32", "text": "know, just look at stars. They probably"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:34", "text": "teach their kids how stars work. The"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:36", "text": "only thing worth looking for in this"}, {"end": "00:36:44", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "galaxy is life without question. Most"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "complicated thing we know and some life"}, {"end": "00:36:48", "start": "00:36:44", "text": "forms might be more complicated than us."}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "And so they are moving around going to a"}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:48", "text": "planet with life taking some samples of"}, {"end": "00:36:56", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "it to study work with right and then"}, {"end": "00:36:58", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "maybe giving somebody else. What I'm"}, {"end": "00:37:01", "start": "00:36:56", "text": "trying to say is that logic says that"}, {"end": "00:37:04", "start": "00:36:58", "text": "life types, forms, daily, whatever, has"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:37:01", "text": "been spread all around the galaxy by"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:04", "text": "civilizations that have come and gone."}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "They've taken and and they're working"}, {"end": "00:37:12", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "with it. And so they they may be working"}, {"end": "00:37:14", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "with DNA from 100,000 light years from"}, {"end": "00:37:16", "start": "00:37:12", "text": "here and yet working with some of our"}, {"end": "00:37:18", "start": "00:37:14", "text": "DNA. In other words, it is we are"}, {"end": "00:37:21", "start": "00:37:16", "text": "connected already"}, {"end": "00:37:23", "start": "00:37:18", "text": "galactically, genetically in a sense the"}, {"end": "00:37:25", "start": "00:37:21", "text": "the life the life essence and whatever"}, {"end": "00:37:27", "start": "00:37:23", "text": "forms DNA and other versions have been"}, {"end": "00:37:30", "start": "00:37:25", "text": "taken and moved and integrated and what"}, {"end": "00:37:33", "start": "00:37:27", "text": "have you and they've taken stuff from us"}, {"end": "00:37:36", "start": "00:37:30", "text": "as well. And so that makes this much"}, {"end": "00:37:37", "start": "00:37:33", "text": "more profound. If we can go to the stars"}, {"end": "00:37:40", "start": "00:37:36", "text": "eventually we're going to learn that we"}, {"end": "00:37:42", "start": "00:37:37", "text": "have a connection of various levels with"}, {"end": "00:37:44", "start": "00:37:40", "text": "major parts of the galaxy that is a"}, {"end": "00:37:46", "start": "00:37:42", "text": "fully living entity. makes Gaia look"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:44", "text": "almost pale in comparison. Which then"}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:46", "text": "brings me to uh"}, {"end": "00:37:58", "start": "00:37:52", "text": "this. We are about to get disclosure. It"}, {"end": "00:38:00", "start": "00:37:56", "text": "is a long time coming. It's not like the"}, {"end": "00:38:02", "start": "00:37:58", "text": "ancient times when they would come down"}, {"end": "00:38:03", "start": "00:38:00", "text": "and they were just gods. That was just"}, {"end": "00:38:05", "start": "00:38:02", "text": "that was it. You're gods. Okay. You're"}, {"end": "00:38:07", "start": "00:38:03", "text": "gods. So if you're an ET, you need a god"}, {"end": "00:38:09", "start": "00:38:05", "text": "time. Be treated like a god. Like a"}, {"end": "00:38:11", "start": "00:38:07", "text": "vacation. Come to the earth and worship"}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:09", "text": "the hell out of here. Yeah. Yeah. This"}, {"end": "00:38:15", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "is not like that. We are an advanced"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "technological space fairy civilization"}, {"end": "00:38:18", "start": "00:38:15", "text": "on the and we have massive weapons."}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "We're about to get more and we may have"}, {"end": "00:38:23", "start": "00:38:18", "text": "inter interstellar travel pretty"}, {"end": "00:38:25", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "soon. So this is a coming out party."}, {"end": "00:38:28", "start": "00:38:23", "text": "It's a bar mitzvah. It's the biggest"}, {"end": "00:38:30", "start": "00:38:25", "text": "paradigm shift in history. We're only at"}, {"end": "00:38:33", "start": "00:38:28", "text": "the beginning of of a kind of probably a"}, {"end": "00:38:36", "start": "00:38:30", "text": "fundamental re understanding of of"}, {"end": "00:38:40", "start": "00:38:33", "text": "reality like"}, {"end": "00:38:43", "start": "00:38:36", "text": "um having the ability to manipulate and"}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:40", "text": "control reality like like alchemists and"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:43", "text": "magicians. I I actually think that we're"}, {"end": "00:38:53", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "we're probably getting close to that."}, {"end": "00:38:55", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "Um and and I think and and when we get"}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:53", "text": "there, we're going to have a completely"}, {"end": "00:38:58", "start": "00:38:55", "text": "different understanding of like what's"}, {"end": "00:39:00", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "the substrate of reality. I I I'm"}, {"end": "00:39:02", "start": "00:38:58", "text": "starting to think it's probably just"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:00", "text": "information and and intelligence is"}, {"end": "00:39:08", "start": "00:39:02", "text": "simply organized information get to a"}, {"end": "00:39:11", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "higher level of awareness what we might"}, {"end": "00:39:15", "start": "00:39:08", "text": "call consciousness."}, {"end": "00:39:17", "start": "00:39:11", "text": "And and we we're now at we're just we're"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:15", "text": "just vessels for intelligence. That's"}, {"end": "00:39:23", "start": "00:39:17", "text": "really I think where we are and they are"}, {"end": "00:39:27", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "operating at a level of complex"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:23", "text": "information that we are not yet there"}, {"end": "00:39:34", "start": "00:39:27", "text": "but we're we're improving by leaps and"}, {"end": "00:39:36", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "bounds. So I wonder if in another let's"}, {"end": "00:39:38", "start": "00:39:34", "text": "say 50 100"}, {"end": "00:39:40", "start": "00:39:36", "text": "years we"}, {"end": "00:39:43", "start": "00:39:38", "text": "are we might be able to have a"}, {"end": "00:39:46", "start": "00:39:40", "text": "conversation with them about about the"}, {"end": "00:39:50", "start": "00:39:43", "text": "nature of reality particularly if"}, {"end": "00:39:52", "start": "00:39:46", "text": "we are able to I mean this is crazy and"}, {"end": "00:39:54", "start": "00:39:50", "text": "it terrifies me to be honest with you"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:52", "text": "but like to create like a superhuman"}, {"end": "00:39:59", "start": "00:39:54", "text": "being genetic enhancement. and we can"}, {"end": "00:40:02", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "live for 500 years and we have genetic"}, {"end": "00:40:04", "start": "00:39:59", "text": "uh intelligence now that's vastly"}, {"end": "00:40:06", "start": "00:40:02", "text": "greater than what you and I have but"}, {"end": "00:40:09", "start": "00:40:04", "text": "it's not impossible right you know we're"}, {"end": "00:40:12", "start": "00:40:06", "text": "we're remaking ourselves as a species"}, {"end": "00:40:14", "start": "00:40:09", "text": "right now right now and it's and that's"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:12", "text": "why actually when you look around the"}, {"end": "00:40:20", "start": "00:40:14", "text": "world is it's crazy mental illness is"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "high why because we're going through"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:20", "text": "this incredibly rapid transformation as"}, {"end": "00:40:28", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "a species and Like no one has to be"}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "here. No one has to be dropped into"}, {"end": "00:40:33", "start": "00:40:28", "text": "this. But like everything's changing so"}, {"end": "00:40:35", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "amazingly fast. And and I think they the"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:33", "text": "observers, the monitors, the"}, {"end": "00:40:40", "start": "00:40:35", "text": "manipulators, they see it all. They"}, {"end": "00:40:42", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "know. And and we're just we're just"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:40", "text": "riding through this. We have no control."}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:42", "text": "We have no control over this. We really"}, {"end": "00:40:51", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "we overestimate our power and our"}, {"end": "00:40:53", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "control and our ability to navigate"}, {"end": "00:40:56", "start": "00:40:51", "text": "this. We're not navigating man."}, {"end": "00:40:59", "start": "00:40:53", "text": "We're we're on a high-speed train and"}, {"end": "00:41:02", "start": "00:40:56", "text": "it's got tracks and we argue over, you"}, {"end": "00:41:04", "start": "00:40:59", "text": "know, like should we have guard rails on"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:02", "text": "AI or not? Like, are you kidding me?"}, {"end": "00:41:09", "start": "00:41:04", "text": "None of that's going to matter. We can't"}, {"end": "00:41:12", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "stop it. We can't help ourselves. This"}, {"end": "00:41:14", "start": "00:41:09", "text": "is just going and so where will we be a"}, {"end": "00:41:16", "start": "00:41:12", "text": "100 years from now? They'll say, \"Well,"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:14", "text": "we shouldn't do genetic modifications of"}, {"end": "00:41:19", "start": "00:41:16", "text": "human beings.\" Well, someone's going to"}, {"end": "00:41:22", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "do it. Doesn't really matter what you"}, {"end": "00:41:24", "start": "00:41:19", "text": "think. It's going to happen. So where"}, {"end": "00:41:26", "start": "00:41:22", "text": "we're going to be out in a century or"}, {"end": "00:41:27", "start": "00:41:24", "text": "two is going to be a very different"}, {"end": "00:41:29", "start": "00:41:26", "text": "place. Not just a different"}, {"end": "00:41:32", "start": "00:41:27", "text": "civilization, not just a different"}, {"end": "00:41:35", "start": "00:41:29", "text": "economy, not just different human"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:32", "text": "psychology, not just human capabilities,"}, {"end": "00:41:40", "start": "00:41:35", "text": "cybernetic, but like a almost the"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "beginnings of a variation of a human"}, {"end": "00:41:43", "start": "00:41:40", "text": "species."}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "Clearly, whoever they are, and I think"}, {"end": "00:41:47", "start": "00:41:43", "text": "there could be different races, getting"}, {"end": "00:41:49", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "back to your question about favorites,"}, {"end": "00:41:52", "start": "00:41:47", "text": "they're not here with purely hostile"}, {"end": "00:41:53", "start": "00:41:49", "text": "intent because almost overwhelmingly in"}, {"end": "00:41:55", "start": "00:41:52", "text": "all their accounts, they're more"}, {"end": "00:41:57", "start": "00:41:53", "text": "powerful than us, and they would have"}, {"end": "00:42:00", "start": "00:41:55", "text": "killed us if that was their intent. So,"}, {"end": "00:42:03", "start": "00:41:57", "text": "at at worst, they're here to manipulate"}, {"end": "00:42:08", "start": "00:42:00", "text": "us in some way. Mhm. Um, and at best,"}, {"end": "00:42:08", "start": "00:42:03", "text": "they're benevolent or us."}, {"end": "00:42:16", "start": "00:42:08", "text": "It is extremely uh dangerous for us to"}, {"end": "00:42:19", "start": "00:42:12", "text": "assume anything in regards to them being"}, {"end": "00:42:22", "start": "00:42:16", "text": "collaborating or independently have"}, {"end": "00:42:27", "start": "00:42:19", "text": "different agendas because we just can't"}, {"end": "00:42:31", "start": "00:42:22", "text": "assume that the species all have one"}, {"end": "00:42:33", "start": "00:42:27", "text": "species all have the same agenda just"}, {"end": "00:42:35", "start": "00:42:31", "text": "because they're the same species. But"}, {"end": "00:42:36", "start": "00:42:33", "text": "one thing that I've been talking about"}, {"end": "00:42:39", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "recently and one thing that really rings"}, {"end": "00:42:41", "start": "00:42:36", "text": "true to me is this idea of belief and I"}, {"end": "00:42:43", "start": "00:42:39", "text": "I I kind of like try to do away with it"}, {"end": "00:42:44", "start": "00:42:41", "text": "a little bit and I'm not I'm not here to"}, {"end": "00:42:46", "start": "00:42:43", "text": "believe. It doesn't matter what I"}, {"end": "00:42:47", "start": "00:42:44", "text": "believe. What who cares what I believe?"}, {"end": "00:42:49", "start": "00:42:46", "text": "It sounds like me when I started this 30"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:47", "text": "years ago. It's like I don't I don't"}, {"end": "00:42:52", "start": "00:42:49", "text": "care what I think. You will want to"}, {"end": "00:42:55", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "start putting it together and asking"}, {"end": "00:42:57", "start": "00:42:52", "text": "yourself what do I really think? cuz"}, {"end": "00:42:59", "start": "00:42:55", "text": "like I I' I've gone through that whole"}, {"end": "00:43:01", "start": "00:42:57", "text": "phase and then maybe 5 10 years ago I"}, {"end": "00:43:04", "start": "00:42:59", "text": "started thinking"}, {"end": "00:43:05", "start": "00:43:01", "text": "I've looked at this long enough. Do I"}, {"end": "00:43:07", "start": "00:43:04", "text": "really just want to pretend that I don't"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:05", "text": "have opinions? Yeah, it'll happen. It"}, {"end": "00:43:10", "start": "00:43:07", "text": "all it always does. Well, you're a great"}, {"end": "00:43:11", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "inspiration to me and a lot of people."}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:10", "text": "So, I really appreciate it, Richard."}, {"end": "00:43:16", "start": "00:43:11", "text": "Thank you. Total pleasure. Sitting down"}, {"end": "00:43:18", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "with these experts was a truly"}, {"end": "00:43:20", "start": "00:43:16", "text": "enlightening experience and I'm grateful"}, {"end": "00:43:23", "start": "00:43:18", "text": "for the time they've given me. There's"}, {"end": "00:43:25", "start": "00:43:20", "text": "much to ponder and so much left to"}, {"end": "00:43:28", "start": "00:43:23", "text": "discover."}, {"end": "00:43:29", "start": "00:43:25", "text": "I hope you enjoyed this video and again"}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:28", "text": "if you want to see the full unconut"}, {"end": "00:43:34", "start": "00:43:29", "text": "versions of these interviews I've left"}, {"end": "00:43:34", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "the link below."}, {"end": "00:43:41", "start": "00:43:35", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "[Music]"}]

[{"end": "00:00:08", "start": "00:00:02", "text": "We were driving and I said, \"Oh, that"}, {"end": "00:00:11", "start": "00:00:04", "text": "that guy's dressed interestingly.\""}, {"end": "00:00:12", "start": "00:00:08", "text": "There was a guy walking along the lake"}, {"end": "00:00:16", "start": "00:00:11", "text": "by the side, you know, on the side of"}, {"end": "00:00:19", "start": "00:00:12", "text": "the road and he looked just really"}, {"end": "00:00:21", "start": "00:00:16", "text": "different. And we continued talking and"}, {"end": "00:00:23", "start": "00:00:19", "text": "we drove about another quarter of a mile"}, {"end": "00:00:26", "start": "00:00:21", "text": "and I said, \"Oh my god, there's that guy"}, {"end": "00:00:29", "start": "00:00:23", "text": "again.\" and he was walking towards us"}, {"end": "00:00:32", "start": "00:00:26", "text": "again, but about a quarter mile past the"}, {"end": "00:00:35", "start": "00:00:29", "text": "first place that we saw him. Um, talk"}, {"end": "00:00:38", "start": "00:00:32", "text": "about freaked out. That was really"}, {"end": "00:00:40", "start": "00:00:35", "text": "strange. Don't know what it was, but"}, {"end": "00:00:42", "start": "00:00:38", "text": "I'll never forget it. Ladies and"}, {"end": "00:00:43", "start": "00:00:40", "text": "gentlemen, welcome back to another"}, {"end": "00:00:46", "start": "00:00:42", "text": "episode of Debriefed. My name is Chris"}, {"end": "00:00:49", "start": "00:00:43", "text": "Ramsey and today we're going to be"}, {"end": "00:00:52", "start": "00:00:46", "text": "taking a look at a cold case, a UFO cold"}, {"end": "00:00:55", "start": "00:00:49", "text": "case, if you will, from an issue of UFO"}, {"end": "00:00:57", "start": "00:00:52", "text": "Report magazine in 1976."}, {"end": "00:01:01", "start": "00:00:55", "text": "A 13-year-old boy was regressed"}, {"end": "00:01:03", "start": "00:00:57", "text": "hypnotically into going back to his"}, {"end": "00:01:06", "start": "00:01:01", "text": "alleged abduction where he was taken"}, {"end": "00:01:08", "start": "00:01:03", "text": "aboard a craft and studied by what seems"}, {"end": "00:01:10", "start": "00:01:06", "text": "to be these extraterrestrials. I thought"}, {"end": "00:01:12", "start": "00:01:08", "text": "it was a really, really interesting"}, {"end": "00:01:14", "start": "00:01:10", "text": "case. And you know, I've got stacks and"}, {"end": "00:01:17", "start": "00:01:12", "text": "stacks of these magazines and heaps of"}, {"end": "00:01:20", "start": "00:01:14", "text": "these stories that sort of really went"}, {"end": "00:01:22", "start": "00:01:17", "text": "under the radar in eufology. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:01:23", "start": "00:01:20", "text": "there's many, many of these stories."}, {"end": "00:01:24", "start": "00:01:22", "text": "Obviously, they're the ones, you know,"}, {"end": "00:01:26", "start": "00:01:23", "text": "that we're familiar with. The Betty and"}, {"end": "00:01:29", "start": "00:01:24", "text": "Barney Hill case, the Travis Walton"}, {"end": "00:01:31", "start": "00:01:26", "text": "case, the Pascula case, all sorts of"}, {"end": "00:01:34", "start": "00:01:29", "text": "really important alien abduction"}, {"end": "00:01:36", "start": "00:01:31", "text": "stories, but this one I thought was"}, {"end": "00:01:37", "start": "00:01:34", "text": "particularly interesting, and it's"}, {"end": "00:01:40", "start": "00:01:36", "text": "something that I wanted to get into with"}, {"end": "00:01:43", "start": "00:01:37", "text": "you today. There's so much gold in these"}, {"end": "00:01:46", "start": "00:01:40", "text": "old books and magazines. And you know,"}, {"end": "00:01:48", "start": "00:01:43", "text": "often history tends to repeat itself."}, {"end": "00:01:52", "start": "00:01:46", "text": "I'm sure a lot of people who've been"}, {"end": "00:01:54", "start": "00:01:48", "text": "following UFOs and aliens in the past 50"}, {"end": "00:01:57", "start": "00:01:52", "text": "years have said this time and time and"}, {"end": "00:01:59", "start": "00:01:54", "text": "again that it seems to be just the same"}, {"end": "00:02:02", "start": "00:01:57", "text": "thing over and over again. You know,"}, {"end": "00:02:05", "start": "00:01:59", "text": "there are no new revelations. We can"}, {"end": "00:02:08", "start": "00:02:02", "text": "talk about Matthew Brown tweeting this"}, {"end": "00:02:11", "start": "00:02:05", "text": "really cryptic sort of tweet denouncing"}, {"end": "00:02:13", "start": "00:02:08", "text": "these special access programs and this"}, {"end": "00:02:15", "start": "00:02:11", "text": "these esoteric sort of depictions that"}, {"end": "00:02:17", "start": "00:02:13", "text": "he put out there. Or we can talk about"}, {"end": "00:02:21", "start": "00:02:15", "text": "this Wall Street Journal debacle where"}, {"end": "00:02:24", "start": "00:02:17", "text": "they said the entire UFO community is"}, {"end": "00:02:27", "start": "00:02:21", "text": "just one big SCOP and that the military"}, {"end": "00:02:30", "start": "00:02:24", "text": "actually put out fake UFO stuff to cover"}, {"end": "00:02:32", "start": "00:02:27", "text": "up the special access programs. or we"}, {"end": "00:02:34", "start": "00:02:30", "text": "can talk about another alleged"}, {"end": "00:02:37", "start": "00:02:32", "text": "whistleblower who came forward on 4chan"}, {"end": "00:02:38", "start": "00:02:34", "text": "talking about, you know, all of the"}, {"end": "00:02:42", "start": "00:02:37", "text": "stuff that's going to be coming out in"}, {"end": "00:02:45", "start": "00:02:38", "text": "the future. But folks, the truth is that"}, {"end": "00:02:46", "start": "00:02:42", "text": "a lot of this stuff isn't new."}, {"end": "00:02:48", "start": "00:02:45", "text": "I have so much respect for the people"}, {"end": "00:02:50", "start": "00:02:46", "text": "who came before me studying this"}, {"end": "00:02:52", "start": "00:02:48", "text": "phenomenon. You know, we stand on the"}, {"end": "00:02:54", "start": "00:02:50", "text": "shoulders of giants, people like Stanton"}, {"end": "00:02:56", "start": "00:02:52", "text": "Freriedman and even Richard Dolan, who"}, {"end": "00:02:57", "start": "00:02:54", "text": "we interviewed recently in our"}, {"end": "00:02:59", "start": "00:02:56", "text": "documentary. Thank you, by the way, to"}, {"end": "00:03:02", "start": "00:02:57", "text": "those of you who watch that. I mean,"}, {"end": "00:03:07", "start": "00:02:59", "text": "even Colonel Wendell Stevens with his"}, {"end": "00:03:09", "start": "00:03:02", "text": "numerous books on UFO contact cases."}, {"end": "00:03:12", "start": "00:03:07", "text": "There are thousands upon thousands of"}, {"end": "00:03:14", "start": "00:03:09", "text": "these reported cases and stories. And"}, {"end": "00:03:16", "start": "00:03:12", "text": "each and every one of them to me is"}, {"end": "00:03:20", "start": "00:03:14", "text": "equally as fascinating. And I find it a"}, {"end": "00:03:22", "start": "00:03:16", "text": "little redundant to move forward when"}, {"end": "00:03:24", "start": "00:03:20", "text": "honestly taking a look back might"}, {"end": "00:03:27", "start": "00:03:22", "text": "provide us with answers that aren't"}, {"end": "00:03:28", "start": "00:03:24", "text": "infected by the current internet"}, {"end": "00:03:30", "start": "00:03:27", "text": "zeitgeist."}, {"end": "00:03:31", "start": "00:03:28", "text": "And sometimes folks, that's all we need"}, {"end": "00:03:34", "start": "00:03:30", "text": "to do. And and I'm a big fan of"}, {"end": "00:03:36", "start": "00:03:31", "text": "nostalgia, if you couldn't tell already."}, {"end": "00:03:39", "start": "00:03:34", "text": "I'm not going to spend my time chasing"}, {"end": "00:03:40", "start": "00:03:36", "text": "ambulances in the UFO scene. I think"}, {"end": "00:03:42", "start": "00:03:39", "text": "there are plenty of people out there who"}, {"end": "00:03:45", "start": "00:03:40", "text": "are doing a fine job of that."}, {"end": "00:03:48", "start": "00:03:42", "text": "Personally, I find it way more"}, {"end": "00:03:50", "start": "00:03:45", "text": "interesting and compelling to take a"}, {"end": "00:03:52", "start": "00:03:48", "text": "look back at some of the cases that"}, {"end": "00:03:54", "start": "00:03:50", "text": "might not have gotten enough attention."}, {"end": "00:03:55", "start": "00:03:52", "text": "Just came back from contact in the"}, {"end": "00:03:58", "start": "00:03:54", "text": "desert, probably the biggest UFO"}, {"end": "00:04:00", "start": "00:03:55", "text": "conference or convention in the world,"}, {"end": "00:04:01", "start": "00:03:58", "text": "and it was a phenomenal time. Got to"}, {"end": "00:04:02", "start": "00:04:00", "text": "meet and hang with a lot of people. if"}, {"end": "00:04:04", "start": "00:04:01", "text": "you want to see some behindthe-scenes"}, {"end": "00:04:08", "start": "00:04:02", "text": "stuff that went on there. I also"}, {"end": "00:04:10", "start": "00:04:04", "text": "uploaded a vlog of my week spent in Palm"}, {"end": "00:04:12", "start": "00:04:08", "text": "Springs, you know, chatting with various"}, {"end": "00:04:14", "start": "00:04:10", "text": "faces that you might recognize in the"}, {"end": "00:04:16", "start": "00:04:12", "text": "UFO community that is available on the"}, {"end": "00:04:19", "start": "00:04:14", "text": "membership here on YouTube or on"}, {"end": "00:04:22", "start": "00:04:16", "text": "Patreon. And just before we get into"}, {"end": "00:04:23", "start": "00:04:19", "text": "everything, folks, a quick word from the"}, {"end": "00:04:26", "start": "00:04:22", "text": "sponsors that make these episodes"}, {"end": "00:04:29", "start": "00:04:23", "text": "possible."}, {"end": "00:04:31", "start": "00:04:26", "text": "[Music]"}, {"end": "00:04:35", "start": "00:04:29", "text": "I was digging through an old case when I"}, {"end": "00:04:36", "start": "00:04:31", "text": "found it. A file with my name on it. And"}, {"end": "00:04:39", "start": "00:04:35", "text": "not from a government archive and not"}, {"end": "00:04:42", "start": "00:04:36", "text": "from a conspiracy board, but from a data"}, {"end": "00:04:44", "start": "00:04:39", "text": "broker. See, it turns out they knew more"}, {"end": "00:04:47", "start": "00:04:42", "text": "about me than some of my friends do."}, {"end": "00:04:50", "start": "00:04:44", "text": "Phone number, email, pastes,"}, {"end": "00:04:53", "start": "00:04:47", "text": "habits, preferences, purchases I barely"}, {"end": "00:04:56", "start": "00:04:50", "text": "remember making. And I didn't hand that"}, {"end": "00:04:58", "start": "00:04:53", "text": "info over, but someone did. You see,"}, {"end": "00:05:01", "start": "00:04:56", "text": "there's a whole industry out there built"}, {"end": "00:05:04", "start": "00:04:58", "text": "on tracking you. Not for national"}, {"end": "00:05:06", "start": "00:05:01", "text": "security, but for profit. And that's"}, {"end": "00:05:08", "start": "00:05:04", "text": "where incogn. You give them permission"}, {"end": "00:05:11", "start": "00:05:06", "text": "and they start pulling your name off"}, {"end": "00:05:13", "start": "00:05:08", "text": "those lists legally and efficiently,"}, {"end": "00:05:16", "start": "00:05:11", "text": "like cleaning fingerprints off glass."}, {"end": "00:05:19", "start": "00:05:13", "text": "Want to go off the grid? Start here. Use"}, {"end": "00:05:23", "start": "00:05:16", "text": "the link below or go to incogn.com/era52"}, {"end": "00:05:25", "start": "00:05:19", "text": "and use promo code area52. Save 60% off"}, {"end": "00:05:27", "start": "00:05:23", "text": "your annual subscription. And remember,"}, {"end": "00:05:29", "start": "00:05:25", "text": "the most disturbing documents"}, {"end": "00:05:31", "start": "00:05:27", "text": "might be the ones with your name on"}, {"end": "00:05:34", "start": "00:05:29", "text": "them."}, {"end": "00:05:38", "start": "00:05:31", "text": "All right, folks. We paid the bills."}, {"end": "00:05:41", "start": "00:05:34", "text": "Let's get into it. 1976,"}, {"end": "00:05:44", "start": "00:05:38", "text": "April 1976,"}, {"end": "00:05:46", "start": "00:05:41", "text": "UFO Report Magazine. Now, these"}, {"end": "00:05:48", "start": "00:05:44", "text": "magazines are just fantastic. They're"}, {"end": "00:05:51", "start": "00:05:46", "text": "they're absolutely filled with gold"}, {"end": "00:05:52", "start": "00:05:48", "text": "nuggets. Like if you don't know already,"}, {"end": "00:05:55", "start": "00:05:51", "text": "definitely if you can get your hands on"}, {"end": "00:05:57", "start": "00:05:52", "text": "some of these official UFO magazines or"}, {"end": "00:05:59", "start": "00:05:55", "text": "the UFO report or whatever they may be,"}, {"end": "00:06:01", "start": "00:05:57", "text": "they are just filled to the brim. Like"}, {"end": "00:06:03", "start": "00:05:59", "text": "there's a Jacques Valet interview in"}, {"end": "00:06:04", "start": "00:06:01", "text": "here from 1976."}, {"end": "00:06:07", "start": "00:06:03", "text": "I mean, some of the headlines read,"}, {"end": "00:06:09", "start": "00:06:04", "text": "\"Target Earth is Canada"}, {"end": "00:06:11", "start": "00:06:07", "text": "sight of an alien invasion.\" and then"}, {"end": "00:06:13", "start": "00:06:09", "text": "probe link between UFOs and animal"}, {"end": "00:06:15", "start": "00:06:11", "text": "mutilations and gods from inner space"}, {"end": "00:06:18", "start": "00:06:13", "text": "and extraterrestrials among us and"}, {"end": "00:06:24", "start": "00:06:15", "text": "fantastic giant starships and UFO beams"}, {"end": "00:06:26", "start": "00:06:18", "text": "that heal all within one magazine."}, {"end": "00:06:28", "start": "00:06:24", "text": "But none of those headlines are what"}, {"end": "00:06:29", "start": "00:06:26", "text": "we're going to be focusing on today."}, {"end": "00:06:30", "start": "00:06:28", "text": "We're going to be focusing on this"}, {"end": "00:06:32", "start": "00:06:29", "text": "little story that I came across and I"}, {"end": "00:06:33", "start": "00:06:30", "text": "thought just such a rare little treat."}, {"end": "00:06:35", "start": "00:06:32", "text": "You know, if you want to help this"}, {"end": "00:06:39", "start": "00:06:33", "text": "channel out for absolutely nothing, for"}, {"end": "00:06:41", "start": "00:06:35", "text": "free, simply like this video, subscribe,"}, {"end": "00:06:43", "start": "00:06:39", "text": "hit the notification bell, or leave us,"}, {"end": "00:06:44", "start": "00:06:41", "text": "you know, a favorable review um on"}, {"end": "00:06:46", "start": "00:06:43", "text": "Spotify, wherever you're listening to"}, {"end": "00:06:48", "start": "00:06:44", "text": "this on your audio podcasts. The"}, {"end": "00:06:50", "start": "00:06:46", "text": "headline, which we'll be looking at"}, {"end": "00:06:54", "start": "00:06:48", "text": "today, reads as follows. Contact TE"}, {"end": "00:06:56", "start": "00:06:50", "text": "supplies new clues to UFO mystery."}, {"end": "00:06:58", "start": "00:06:54", "text": "Revealed for the first time. This story"}, {"end": "00:07:01", "start": "00:06:56", "text": "of a 13-year-old boy taken aboard a"}, {"end": "00:07:04", "start": "00:06:58", "text": "flying saucer and given a thorough"}, {"end": "00:07:07", "start": "00:07:01", "text": "physical examination rivals the UFO"}, {"end": "00:07:09", "start": "00:07:04", "text": "kidnap cases of Betty and Barney Hill"}, {"end": "00:07:13", "start": "00:07:07", "text": "and two fishermen from Pasigula. This"}, {"end": "00:07:15", "start": "00:07:09", "text": "article by Ban Slate. What we're going"}, {"end": "00:07:17", "start": "00:07:13", "text": "to go through here is the transcript,"}, {"end": "00:07:19", "start": "00:07:15", "text": "the hypnotic regression transcript of a"}, {"end": "00:07:22", "start": "00:07:17", "text": "doctor and the patient. The patient"}, {"end": "00:07:24", "start": "00:07:19", "text": "being this 13-year-old child who we'll"}, {"end": "00:07:27", "start": "00:07:22", "text": "call David here. I'm not sure if that's"}, {"end": "00:07:30", "start": "00:07:24", "text": "his real name, by the way. 1976. If he's"}, {"end": "00:07:32", "start": "00:07:27", "text": "13 in 1976, that's roughly 50 years ago."}, {"end": "00:07:34", "start": "00:07:30", "text": "This gentleman would be 64 years old."}, {"end": "00:07:37", "start": "00:07:32", "text": "David, if you're still around and"}, {"end": "00:07:39", "start": "00:07:34", "text": "listening to this, please reach out."}, {"end": "00:07:40", "start": "00:07:37", "text": "Would love to hear from you. I think it"}, {"end": "00:07:42", "start": "00:07:39", "text": "would be a nice surprise for the"}, {"end": "00:07:44", "start": "00:07:40", "text": "audience to to have some type of"}, {"end": "00:07:46", "start": "00:07:42", "text": "follow-up here. So, I'm going to read"}, {"end": "00:07:49", "start": "00:07:44", "text": "it. Um I'll I'll I'll just be saying"}, {"end": "00:07:50", "start": "00:07:46", "text": "doctor and then David. These are the two"}, {"end": "00:07:52", "start": "00:07:49", "text": "people that will be communicating with"}, {"end": "00:07:56", "start": "00:07:50", "text": "each other. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:07:58", "start": "00:07:52", "text": "now David, you feel very well. I would"}, {"end": "00:08:00", "start": "00:07:56", "text": "like you to see yourself on the 19th of"}, {"end": "00:08:03", "start": "00:07:58", "text": "November last year. You can visualize"}, {"end": "00:08:07", "start": "00:08:00", "text": "that. You can see yourself there. All"}, {"end": "00:08:08", "start": "00:08:03", "text": "right. Will you tell me where you are,"}, {"end": "00:08:13", "start": "00:08:07", "text": "David?"}, {"end": "00:08:14", "start": "00:08:08", "text": "I'm in the empty lot. Doctor. All right."}, {"end": "00:08:20", "start": "00:08:13", "text": "Look around and tell me everything that"}, {"end": "00:08:22", "start": "00:08:14", "text": "you see. David, I see an object. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:08:24", "start": "00:08:20", "text": "where is the object?"}, {"end": "00:08:27", "start": "00:08:22", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:08:30", "start": "00:08:24", "text": "in the sky."}, {"end": "00:08:35", "start": "00:08:27", "text": "Doctor, how far is it? Can you see it"}, {"end": "00:08:36", "start": "00:08:30", "text": "very well, David? Yes."}, {"end": "00:08:39", "start": "00:08:35", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:08:40", "start": "00:08:36", "text": "where is it?"}, {"end": "00:08:44", "start": "00:08:39", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:08:46", "start": "00:08:40", "text": "above me."}, {"end": "00:08:52", "start": "00:08:44", "text": "Doctor, what color is the object in the"}, {"end": "00:08:54", "start": "00:08:46", "text": "sky? David, silver grayish."}, {"end": "00:08:55", "start": "00:08:52", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:08:58", "start": "00:08:54", "text": "what else do you see as far as this"}, {"end": "00:09:00", "start": "00:08:55", "text": "object is concerned?"}, {"end": "00:09:02", "start": "00:08:58", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:09:05", "start": "00:09:00", "text": "it has a color band of lights around the"}, {"end": "00:09:09", "start": "00:09:02", "text": "middle of it, doctor. What color are the"}, {"end": "00:09:13", "start": "00:09:05", "text": "lights that you see, David? David,"}, {"end": "00:09:18", "start": "00:09:09", "text": "all colors. Green, yellow, blue, orange,"}, {"end": "00:09:20", "start": "00:09:13", "text": "red, pink. Doctor, what happens next?"}, {"end": "00:09:22", "start": "00:09:18", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:09:26", "start": "00:09:20", "text": "they put a beam on me."}, {"end": "00:09:28", "start": "00:09:22", "text": "Doctor, what color is the beam? David,"}, {"end": "00:09:33", "start": "00:09:26", "text": "orange."}, {"end": "00:09:35", "start": "00:09:28", "text": "Doctor, where does this beam come from?"}, {"end": "00:09:37", "start": "00:09:33", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:09:41", "start": "00:09:35", "text": "the ship."}, {"end": "00:09:45", "start": "00:09:37", "text": "Doctor, what part of the ship?"}, {"end": "00:09:47", "start": "00:09:41", "text": "David, the middle on the bottom."}, {"end": "00:09:50", "start": "00:09:45", "text": "Doctor, how do you feel when the beam"}, {"end": "00:09:52", "start": "00:09:47", "text": "touched you? David, I was sort of in a"}, {"end": "00:09:54", "start": "00:09:50", "text": "trance."}, {"end": "00:09:57", "start": "00:09:52", "text": "Earlier, David had stated under hypnosis"}, {"end": "00:10:00", "start": "00:09:54", "text": "that when he saw the beam coming down,"}, {"end": "00:10:02", "start": "00:09:57", "text": "he felt frightened. Now, he was"}, {"end": "00:10:04", "start": "00:10:00", "text": "describing a second reaction after it"}, {"end": "00:10:06", "start": "00:10:02", "text": "touched him, and he was being pulled up"}, {"end": "00:10:08", "start": "00:10:04", "text": "into the ship."}, {"end": "00:10:10", "start": "00:10:06", "text": "Doctor, did the beam grab hold of your"}, {"end": "00:10:14", "start": "00:10:08", "text": "arms or did it grab hold of your body?"}, {"end": "00:10:18", "start": "00:10:10", "text": "What does the beam do to you, David? It"}, {"end": "00:10:20", "start": "00:10:14", "text": "just brought me up in the ship. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:10:23", "start": "00:10:18", "text": "how did it bring you up? Like you were"}, {"end": "00:10:24", "start": "00:10:20", "text": "going up in an elevator."}, {"end": "00:10:27", "start": "00:10:23", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:10:32", "start": "00:10:24", "text": "no. Doctor, did you feel a funny"}, {"end": "00:10:36", "start": "00:10:27", "text": "sensation as you were going up? David,"}, {"end": "00:10:38", "start": "00:10:32", "text": "no. Doctor, were you frightened?"}, {"end": "00:10:41", "start": "00:10:36", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:10:46", "start": "00:10:38", "text": "no. I was in a trance."}, {"end": "00:10:50", "start": "00:10:41", "text": "Doctor, did you scream? David, no."}, {"end": "00:10:53", "start": "00:10:46", "text": "Doctor. All right. Now, what's going on?"}, {"end": "00:10:55", "start": "00:10:50", "text": "Keep telling me what's going on. David,"}, {"end": "00:10:58", "start": "00:10:53", "text": "the beam is bringing me in the ship now."}, {"end": "00:11:02", "start": "00:10:55", "text": "I see a monster."}, {"end": "00:11:05", "start": "00:10:58", "text": "Doctor, tell me about the monster."}, {"end": "00:11:09", "start": "00:11:02", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:11:11", "start": "00:11:05", "text": "it has scaly skin."}, {"end": "00:11:14", "start": "00:11:09", "text": "It has holes for its nose and holes for"}, {"end": "00:11:16", "start": "00:11:11", "text": "its ears."}, {"end": "00:11:17", "start": "00:11:14", "text": "And it has a slit on its face for a"}, {"end": "00:11:20", "start": "00:11:16", "text": "mouth."}, {"end": "00:11:25", "start": "00:11:17", "text": "It's brown."}, {"end": "00:11:28", "start": "00:11:20", "text": "Doctor, how many monsters do you see?"}, {"end": "00:11:30", "start": "00:11:25", "text": "David, two."}, {"end": "00:11:32", "start": "00:11:28", "text": "Pause here for a second. It seems as"}, {"end": "00:11:35", "start": "00:11:30", "text": "though"}, {"end": "00:11:38", "start": "00:11:32", "text": "we might be dealing with"}, {"end": "00:11:39", "start": "00:11:35", "text": "some type of reptilian creature, but I"}, {"end": "00:11:42", "start": "00:11:38", "text": "wouldn't jump the gun on that too"}, {"end": "00:11:44", "start": "00:11:39", "text": "quickly because if we take a look at Dan"}, {"end": "00:11:48", "start": "00:11:42", "text": "Burrish, Dan Burrish, who is, you know,"}, {"end": "00:11:51", "start": "00:11:44", "text": "very, very famous whistleblower"}, {"end": "00:11:54", "start": "00:11:48", "text": "known for working at S4 directly with an"}, {"end": "00:11:57", "start": "00:11:51", "text": "alien race that he calls the JROD. The"}, {"end": "00:12:00", "start": "00:11:54", "text": "description he gave of the J-Rod was"}, {"end": "00:12:03", "start": "00:11:57", "text": "also brown,"}, {"end": "00:12:06", "start": "00:12:00", "text": "was also scaly."}, {"end": "00:12:08", "start": "00:12:03", "text": "He also said that by those descriptions,"}, {"end": "00:12:10", "start": "00:12:06", "text": "and if you were to look at its skeletal"}, {"end": "00:12:15", "start": "00:12:08", "text": "structure and everything else, you might"}, {"end": "00:12:18", "start": "00:12:10", "text": "assume that it would be reptilelike"}, {"end": "00:12:20", "start": "00:12:15", "text": "without necessarily being a reptilian."}, {"end": "00:12:22", "start": "00:12:18", "text": "Screen was raised and we were finally"}, {"end": "00:12:24", "start": "00:12:20", "text": "told what we were working with. When I"}, {"end": "00:12:26", "start": "00:12:22", "text": "first saw him, I was looking uh through"}, {"end": "00:12:29", "start": "00:12:24", "text": "the glass from the gallery. He looked"}, {"end": "00:12:31", "start": "00:12:26", "text": "like a bug. That's by my That's by your"}, {"end": "00:12:32", "start": "00:12:29", "text": "own hand."}, {"end": "00:12:34", "start": "00:12:31", "text": "Well, was approximately 3 and 1/2 ft"}, {"end": "00:12:38", "start": "00:12:32", "text": "tall. He had a dark brown appearance,"}, {"end": "00:12:40", "start": "00:12:34", "text": "very ruddy appearance to his skin, large"}, {"end": "00:12:44", "start": "00:12:38", "text": "head in comparison to torso, large"}, {"end": "00:12:49", "start": "00:12:40", "text": "bulbous black eyes, four very thin suous"}, {"end": "00:12:52", "start": "00:12:44", "text": "fingers. Uh nose was recessed to aula to"}, {"end": "00:12:56", "start": "00:12:49", "text": "orifice. An extremely small"}, {"end": "00:12:57", "start": "00:12:52", "text": "uh mouth and a hard pallet, no teeth. My"}, {"end": "00:12:59", "start": "00:12:56", "text": "original"}, {"end": "00:13:00", "start": "00:12:57", "text": "feeling was I was looking at a giant"}, {"end": "00:13:03", "start": "00:12:59", "text": "insect."}, {"end": "00:13:06", "start": "00:13:00", "text": "The particular ruddy configuration of"}, {"end": "00:13:09", "start": "00:13:03", "text": "their skin can make them appear very"}, {"end": "00:13:12", "start": "00:13:06", "text": "reptilian in appearance. Uh out of a"}, {"end": "00:13:16", "start": "00:13:09", "text": "group of people experiencing them that"}, {"end": "00:13:17", "start": "00:13:12", "text": "more than 50% of the group could have"}, {"end": "00:13:20", "start": "00:13:16", "text": "probably say that they were reptilian in"}, {"end": "00:13:22", "start": "00:13:17", "text": "appearance. M uh if you would look in"}, {"end": "00:13:25", "start": "00:13:20", "text": "his eyes, you'd literally feel yourself"}, {"end": "00:13:27", "start": "00:13:22", "text": "falling into his eyes. Uh and then he he"}, {"end": "00:13:30", "start": "00:13:25", "text": "after entrainment, this is how they get"}, {"end": "00:13:32", "start": "00:13:27", "text": "you to relax in your bedrooms at night."}, {"end": "00:13:35", "start": "00:13:30", "text": "The the rogues, if they take you, they"}, {"end": "00:13:36", "start": "00:13:32", "text": "entrain to what makes you feel good and"}, {"end": "00:13:38", "start": "00:13:35", "text": "then they flood flood you with"}, {"end": "00:13:40", "start": "00:13:36", "text": "endorphins. Are you saying that that's"}, {"end": "00:13:41", "start": "00:13:38", "text": "what that's why you feel relaxed? That's"}, {"end": "00:13:44", "start": "00:13:40", "text": "what happens during an abduction. Yes."}, {"end": "00:13:47", "start": "00:13:41", "text": "That's why you feel relaxed. He started"}, {"end": "00:13:50", "start": "00:13:44", "text": "to flood me naturally because he wanted"}, {"end": "00:13:52", "start": "00:13:47", "text": "to speak with me. So it began to"}, {"end": "00:13:55", "start": "00:13:50", "text": "naturally flood as I was speaking with"}, {"end": "00:13:58", "start": "00:13:52", "text": "him and he felt me resist because I was"}, {"end": "00:14:00", "start": "00:13:55", "text": "told in the training to resist and so he"}, {"end": "00:14:03", "start": "00:13:58", "text": "eventually stopped it. This is as the"}, {"end": "00:14:05", "start": "00:14:00", "text": "relationship progressed. He stopped"}, {"end": "00:14:08", "start": "00:14:03", "text": "trying to make me feel good. That had"}, {"end": "00:14:11", "start": "00:14:05", "text": "consequences too. The consequences for"}, {"end": "00:14:14", "start": "00:14:08", "text": "me not feeling good was that I was under"}, {"end": "00:14:16", "start": "00:14:11", "text": "incredible fear in his presence. I felt"}, {"end": "00:14:18", "start": "00:14:14", "text": "afraid inside"}, {"end": "00:14:19", "start": "00:14:16", "text": "because"}, {"end": "00:14:22", "start": "00:14:18", "text": "I was always told that monsters weren't"}, {"end": "00:14:25", "start": "00:14:19", "text": "real and now I find out they are but"}, {"end": "00:14:27", "start": "00:14:22", "text": "they live in the heart of men. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:14:30", "start": "00:14:25", "text": "what was there about the skin that made"}, {"end": "00:14:34", "start": "00:14:27", "text": "you think it was scaly?"}, {"end": "00:14:36", "start": "00:14:30", "text": "David, it looked like a crocodile skin."}, {"end": "00:14:39", "start": "00:14:34", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:14:43", "start": "00:14:36", "text": "what is there about a crocodile? David,"}, {"end": "00:14:46", "start": "00:14:39", "text": "it's sort of rough all over. Doctor, is"}, {"end": "00:14:50", "start": "00:14:43", "text": "there anything else? David, no."}, {"end": "00:14:53", "start": "00:14:46", "text": "Doctor, what did their backs look like?"}, {"end": "00:14:57", "start": "00:14:50", "text": "Did they have a crocodile back, too?"}, {"end": "00:15:00", "start": "00:14:53", "text": "David, I never saw their backs. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:15:03", "start": "00:14:57", "text": "did they have any clothes on? David, no."}, {"end": "00:15:05", "start": "00:15:00", "text": "Just that sort of skin,"}, {"end": "00:15:07", "start": "00:15:03", "text": "doctor."}, {"end": "00:15:10", "start": "00:15:05", "text": "Were they smiling,"}, {"end": "00:15:13", "start": "00:15:07", "text": "David? No."}, {"end": "00:15:16", "start": "00:15:10", "text": "Doctor, were they angry?"}, {"end": "00:15:20", "start": "00:15:13", "text": "David, no."}, {"end": "00:15:22", "start": "00:15:16", "text": "Doctor, were they happy?"}, {"end": "00:15:24", "start": "00:15:20", "text": "David, no. They didn't show any"}, {"end": "00:15:26", "start": "00:15:22", "text": "expression."}, {"end": "00:15:29", "start": "00:15:24", "text": "Doctor, tell me everything that's"}, {"end": "00:15:31", "start": "00:15:26", "text": "happening now. David, they put me on a"}, {"end": "00:15:33", "start": "00:15:29", "text": "sort of a cot."}, {"end": "00:15:36", "start": "00:15:31", "text": "He's looking at my body."}, {"end": "00:15:38", "start": "00:15:33", "text": "Doctor, what about your body? David,"}, {"end": "00:15:42", "start": "00:15:36", "text": "he's studying it. He took my clothes"}, {"end": "00:15:44", "start": "00:15:38", "text": "off. Doctor, all of your clothes. David,"}, {"end": "00:15:48", "start": "00:15:42", "text": "yes."}, {"end": "00:15:51", "start": "00:15:44", "text": "Doctor, your shoes, your socks. David,"}, {"end": "00:15:56", "start": "00:15:48", "text": "yes, doctor. Your trousers, your shirt,"}, {"end": "00:15:59", "start": "00:15:51", "text": "your underwear. David, yes, doctor. And"}, {"end": "00:16:01", "start": "00:15:56", "text": "he left your jacket on. David angrily."}, {"end": "00:16:03", "start": "00:15:59", "text": "No,"}, {"end": "00:16:07", "start": "00:16:01", "text": "doctor. All right, David. Now, what is"}, {"end": "00:16:11", "start": "00:16:03", "text": "happening, David? They're bringing me"}, {"end": "00:16:14", "start": "00:16:07", "text": "through a hallway into another room."}, {"end": "00:16:16", "start": "00:16:11", "text": "Doctor, what does the other room look"}, {"end": "00:16:19", "start": "00:16:14", "text": "like?"}, {"end": "00:16:21", "start": "00:16:16", "text": "David, it has all sorts of bright lights"}, {"end": "00:16:25", "start": "00:16:19", "text": "in it."}, {"end": "00:16:27", "start": "00:16:21", "text": "Doctor, what else do you see? David,"}, {"end": "00:16:30", "start": "00:16:25", "text": "there's another table there."}, {"end": "00:16:32", "start": "00:16:27", "text": "They put me on that table."}, {"end": "00:16:34", "start": "00:16:30", "text": "doctor."}, {"end": "00:16:36", "start": "00:16:32", "text": "And now David."}, {"end": "00:16:39", "start": "00:16:34", "text": "David."}, {"end": "00:16:42", "start": "00:16:36", "text": "He's lifting my head up. He's lifting it"}, {"end": "00:16:45", "start": "00:16:39", "text": "up. His voice is extremely frightened"}, {"end": "00:16:47", "start": "00:16:42", "text": "and plaintitative, as if wanting to"}, {"end": "00:16:50", "start": "00:16:45", "text": "escape from something."}, {"end": "00:16:52", "start": "00:16:47", "text": "He looks at my hair and my eyes and my"}, {"end": "00:16:55", "start": "00:16:50", "text": "nose."}, {"end": "00:16:58", "start": "00:16:52", "text": "Now David's breathing rises and falls"}, {"end": "00:17:01", "start": "00:16:55", "text": "with gasps and sobs as he relives that"}, {"end": "00:17:04", "start": "00:16:58", "text": "terrifying moment."}, {"end": "00:17:07", "start": "00:17:01", "text": "Doctor, how many are looking at you?"}, {"end": "00:17:10", "start": "00:17:04", "text": "David, four."}, {"end": "00:17:14", "start": "00:17:07", "text": "Doctor, what are they like?"}, {"end": "00:17:16", "start": "00:17:10", "text": "David, they all look the same. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:17:18", "start": "00:17:14", "text": "can you tell me something more about"}, {"end": "00:17:23", "start": "00:17:16", "text": "their face?"}, {"end": "00:17:24", "start": "00:17:18", "text": "David, it's sort of scary."}, {"end": "00:17:27", "start": "00:17:23", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:17:30", "start": "00:17:24", "text": "what about their head?"}, {"end": "00:17:34", "start": "00:17:27", "text": "David, it's round."}, {"end": "00:17:37", "start": "00:17:30", "text": "Doctor, how many hands do they have?"}, {"end": "00:17:40", "start": "00:17:34", "text": "David, two."}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:37", "text": "Doctor, are their hands very similar to"}, {"end": "00:17:45", "start": "00:17:40", "text": "yours? David, no."}, {"end": "00:17:54", "start": "00:17:45", "text": "Doctor, what are they like,"}, {"end": "00:17:58", "start": "00:17:49", "text": "David? They're like real rough, doctor."}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:54", "text": "How many fingers do they have, David?"}, {"end": "00:18:01", "start": "00:17:58", "text": "Four."}, {"end": "00:18:05", "start": "00:18:01", "text": "Doctor, do they have a thumb as well?"}, {"end": "00:18:07", "start": "00:18:03", "text": "David, no."}, {"end": "00:18:10", "start": "00:18:05", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:18:13", "start": "00:18:07", "text": "how big are these beings? David, about 6"}, {"end": "00:18:15", "start": "00:18:10", "text": "feet. Doctor, they're they're nicel"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:13", "text": "lookinging beings, aren't they?"}, {"end": "00:18:19", "start": "00:18:15", "text": "David, no."}, {"end": "00:18:24", "start": "00:18:19", "text": "Doctor, what are they wearing? David, it"}, {"end": "00:18:26", "start": "00:18:22", "text": "looks like they're not wearing anything."}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:24", "text": "They have a brown sort of scaly"}, {"end": "00:18:29", "start": "00:18:26", "text": "skin-like."}, {"end": "00:18:34", "start": "00:18:30", "text": "Doctor, how many feet do they have?"}, {"end": "00:18:37", "start": "00:18:32", "text": "David, two"}, {"end": "00:18:39", "start": "00:18:34", "text": "doctor, what do they have on their feet?"}, {"end": "00:18:41", "start": "00:18:37", "text": "David, there's nothing on their feet."}, {"end": "00:18:45", "start": "00:18:39", "text": "Doctor, how many toes do you see on"}, {"end": "00:18:46", "start": "00:18:41", "text": "their feet? David, four."}, {"end": "00:18:50", "start": "00:18:45", "text": "Doctor, what else do you notice about"}, {"end": "00:18:52", "start": "00:18:46", "text": "them that's unusual? David, they only"}, {"end": "00:18:53", "start": "00:18:50", "text": "have four fingers."}, {"end": "00:18:56", "start": "00:18:52", "text": "Doctor, is there anything else about"}, {"end": "00:18:59", "start": "00:18:53", "text": "them that's different? David, they have"}, {"end": "00:19:01", "start": "00:18:56", "text": "holes for their ears and nose and a slit"}, {"end": "00:19:04", "start": "00:18:59", "text": "for their mouth. Doctor, are they saying"}, {"end": "00:19:06", "start": "00:19:01", "text": "anything to you? David,"}, {"end": "00:19:10", "start": "00:19:04", "text": "I can't understand."}, {"end": "00:19:13", "start": "00:19:06", "text": "Doctor, why can't you understand?"}, {"end": "00:19:16", "start": "00:19:10", "text": "David, it's a"}, {"end": "00:19:17", "start": "00:19:13", "text": "it's a strange language."}, {"end": "00:19:22", "start": "00:19:16", "text": "We're going to pause here for a second."}, {"end": "00:19:24", "start": "00:19:17", "text": "The four fingers and four toes"}, {"end": "00:19:27", "start": "00:19:22", "text": "seem to be exactly"}, {"end": "00:19:29", "start": "00:19:24", "text": "what so many others have described with"}, {"end": "00:19:31", "start": "00:19:27", "text": "these type of beings. It's such an"}, {"end": "00:19:33", "start": "00:19:29", "text": "interesting detail when you think about"}, {"end": "00:19:35", "start": "00:19:31", "text": "it. If you're"}, {"end": "00:19:36", "start": "00:19:33", "text": "fantasizing about this or if you're"}, {"end": "00:19:40", "start": "00:19:35", "text": "making this up, now remember this is"}, {"end": "00:19:42", "start": "00:19:36", "text": "1976. there aren't so many things"}, {"end": "00:19:44", "start": "00:19:40", "text": "readily available especially for a"}, {"end": "00:19:46", "start": "00:19:42", "text": "13-year-old"}, {"end": "00:19:48", "start": "00:19:44", "text": "to in terms of like information that one"}, {"end": "00:19:54", "start": "00:19:46", "text": "can consume about these type of beings."}, {"end": "00:19:56", "start": "00:19:48", "text": "So 1976 fairly early in regards to"}, {"end": "00:19:59", "start": "00:19:54", "text": "information about abductions. The ebo"}, {"end": "00:20:01", "start": "00:19:56", "text": "molecular biologist that came forward on"}, {"end": "00:20:03", "start": "00:19:59", "text": "Reddit, which was also featured in"}, {"end": "00:20:07", "start": "00:20:01", "text": "Whitley Strieber's book, The Fourth"}, {"end": "00:20:09", "start": "00:20:03", "text": "Mind, mentions the four fingers, also"}, {"end": "00:20:12", "start": "00:20:07", "text": "mentions,"}, {"end": "00:20:14", "start": "00:20:09", "text": "I think he mentioned two toes,"}, {"end": "00:20:18", "start": "00:20:12", "text": "but they were kind of like this and that"}, {"end": "00:20:20", "start": "00:20:14", "text": "they had two. So, like four toes, but"}, {"end": "00:20:21", "start": "00:20:18", "text": "that they were sort of like this. So"}, {"end": "00:20:24", "start": "00:20:20", "text": "maybe we're not dealing with entirely"}, {"end": "00:20:30", "start": "00:20:21", "text": "the same species as the, you know, the"}, {"end": "00:20:32", "start": "00:20:24", "text": "common gray, but these ones seem to be."}, {"end": "00:20:35", "start": "00:20:30", "text": "Now, I can't remember if Dan Bers's type"}, {"end": "00:20:37", "start": "00:20:32", "text": "had"}, {"end": "00:20:40", "start": "00:20:35", "text": "four toes. I think he did. Size and"}, {"end": "00:20:43", "start": "00:20:37", "text": "built, roughly 49 to 5t tall with a"}, {"end": "00:20:46", "start": "00:20:40", "text": "slim, slender body. Now,"}, {"end": "00:20:48", "start": "00:20:43", "text": "to a 13-year-old child, 5t, 6 feet might"}, {"end": "00:20:50", "start": "00:20:46", "text": "seem"}, {"end": "00:20:53", "start": "00:20:48", "text": "similar, especially from, you know, a"}, {"end": "00:20:55", "start": "00:20:50", "text": "position, a horizontal position. There's"}, {"end": "00:20:56", "start": "00:20:53", "text": "an amazing website called"}, {"end": "00:20:59", "start": "00:20:55", "text": "burisharchive.com"}, {"end": "00:21:01", "start": "00:20:56", "text": "by Brian Jackson. Brian gave us a"}, {"end": "00:21:03", "start": "00:20:59", "text": "presentation at Contact in the Desert,"}, {"end": "00:21:05", "start": "00:21:01", "text": "but Brian had been extensively"}, {"end": "00:21:08", "start": "00:21:03", "text": "researching"}, {"end": "00:21:10", "start": "00:21:05", "text": "Dan Burrish or Dan Crane's case uh for a"}, {"end": "00:21:14", "start": "00:21:08", "text": "very long time. And my conviction level"}, {"end": "00:21:16", "start": "00:21:10", "text": "on on this gentleman having worked with"}, {"end": "00:21:19", "start": "00:21:14", "text": "at least having worked at S4 is very"}, {"end": "00:21:21", "start": "00:21:16", "text": "high, especially after the presentation."}, {"end": "00:21:22", "start": "00:21:19", "text": "But if you go to this site, there's"}, {"end": "00:21:26", "start": "00:21:21", "text": "everything you need to know about the"}, {"end": "00:21:28", "start": "00:21:22", "text": "Burish archive. Anyways, I'm getting"}, {"end": "00:21:29", "start": "00:21:26", "text": "sidetracked here. The Burish stuff is"}, {"end": "00:21:31", "start": "00:21:28", "text": "incredibly fascinating. So, if you want"}, {"end": "00:21:33", "start": "00:21:29", "text": "to check that out, I'll leave the link"}, {"end": "00:21:34", "start": "00:21:31", "text": "to that below. Let's get back to this"}, {"end": "00:21:36", "start": "00:21:33", "text": "language because I do find this"}, {"end": "00:21:39", "start": "00:21:34", "text": "interesting that they have a language"}, {"end": "00:21:42", "start": "00:21:36", "text": "here. Doctor, he's not speaking English."}, {"end": "00:21:45", "start": "00:21:39", "text": "David, no. Doctor, imitate the sound"}, {"end": "00:21:47", "start": "00:21:42", "text": "these beings are saying."}, {"end": "00:21:49", "start": "00:21:45", "text": "Now, David makes a long buzzing or"}, {"end": "00:21:53", "start": "00:21:47", "text": "humming sound,"}, {"end": "00:21:57", "start": "00:21:49", "text": "which much like a giant bee or some type"}, {"end": "00:21:58", "start": "00:21:53", "text": "of machinery. Dr. Masson asks him to"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:57", "text": "repeat it in case they could detect a"}, {"end": "00:22:03", "start": "00:21:58", "text": "pattern which might be deciphered."}, {"end": "00:22:09", "start": "00:22:03", "text": "Very intriguing."}, {"end": "00:22:12", "start": "00:22:05", "text": "Like a buzzing, huh? Doctor. And who is"}, {"end": "00:22:16", "start": "00:22:09", "text": "saying this? David, just one of them."}, {"end": "00:22:20", "start": "00:22:12", "text": "Doctor, what is he doing this for?"}, {"end": "00:22:23", "start": "00:22:16", "text": "David, he's telling the others. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:22:25", "start": "00:22:20", "text": "what is he telling the others? David,"}, {"end": "00:22:29", "start": "00:22:23", "text": "pause."}, {"end": "00:22:31", "start": "00:22:25", "text": "I don't know. Doctor, what is he doing"}, {"end": "00:22:33", "start": "00:22:29", "text": "while he is saying this?"}, {"end": "00:22:36", "start": "00:22:31", "text": "David."}, {"end": "00:22:37", "start": "00:22:33", "text": "He's looking at my body."}, {"end": "00:22:39", "start": "00:22:36", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:22:42", "start": "00:22:37", "text": "have you ever been on a table like this"}, {"end": "00:22:45", "start": "00:22:39", "text": "before? David?"}, {"end": "00:22:46", "start": "00:22:42", "text": "Yes. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:22:51", "start": "00:22:45", "text": "where?"}, {"end": "00:22:53", "start": "00:22:46", "text": "David, in an operating room."}, {"end": "00:22:56", "start": "00:22:51", "text": "Doctor, what's going on now? You're on"}, {"end": "00:22:59", "start": "00:22:53", "text": "the table. David pauses, breathing"}, {"end": "00:23:01", "start": "00:22:56", "text": "heavily, as if not wanting to remember."}, {"end": "00:23:04", "start": "00:22:59", "text": "The psychologist repeats the question,"}, {"end": "00:23:06", "start": "00:23:01", "text": "telling the hypnotized boy that he will"}, {"end": "00:23:10", "start": "00:23:04", "text": "be comfortable and not frightened by"}, {"end": "00:23:13", "start": "00:23:06", "text": "anything that he sees. David,"}, {"end": "00:23:15", "start": "00:23:10", "text": "they put this other thing over me."}, {"end": "00:23:19", "start": "00:23:13", "text": "Doctor, what other thing? What does it"}, {"end": "00:23:21", "start": "00:23:15", "text": "look like? David, it's a grayish color"}, {"end": "00:23:25", "start": "00:23:19", "text": "and they just throw it over me. And then"}, {"end": "00:23:29", "start": "00:23:21", "text": "this big huge orange colored light comes"}, {"end": "00:23:33", "start": "00:23:25", "text": "down and is shown on is shun on me."}, {"end": "00:23:36", "start": "00:23:29", "text": "Then one of them took sort of a needle."}, {"end": "00:23:39", "start": "00:23:33", "text": "Doctor, what's the needle look like?"}, {"end": "00:23:44", "start": "00:23:36", "text": "David, it's gray. It's small."}, {"end": "00:23:48", "start": "00:23:39", "text": "Doctor, now what does he do?"}, {"end": "00:23:49", "start": "00:23:44", "text": "David, he sticks it in my arm. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:23:54", "start": "00:23:48", "text": "were you awake all the time when you"}, {"end": "00:23:56", "start": "00:23:49", "text": "were in this room? David, yes. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:23:58", "start": "00:23:54", "text": "did they give you anything to eat or"}, {"end": "00:24:02", "start": "00:23:56", "text": "drink? David, no."}, {"end": "00:24:04", "start": "00:23:58", "text": "I was sort of in a trance."}, {"end": "00:24:10", "start": "00:24:02", "text": "Doctor, how did you feel in that trance"}, {"end": "00:24:14", "start": "00:24:04", "text": "state, David? Sort of. I felt funny."}, {"end": "00:24:18", "start": "00:24:10", "text": "Doctor, what do you mean by funny?"}, {"end": "00:24:20", "start": "00:24:14", "text": "David, I felt numb."}, {"end": "00:24:22", "start": "00:24:18", "text": "Because David had made reference to"}, {"end": "00:24:24", "start": "00:24:20", "text": "being in an operating room before, the"}, {"end": "00:24:26", "start": "00:24:22", "text": "psychologist wondered if his UFO"}, {"end": "00:24:28", "start": "00:24:24", "text": "experience might have been a flashback"}, {"end": "00:24:32", "start": "00:24:26", "text": "to a young boy's traumatic first"}, {"end": "00:24:34", "start": "00:24:28", "text": "operation. And he explored this. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:24:36", "start": "00:24:32", "text": "you said that room looked very much like"}, {"end": "00:24:39", "start": "00:24:34", "text": "a room you've been in before. David,"}, {"end": "00:24:42", "start": "00:24:36", "text": "yes. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:24:45", "start": "00:24:39", "text": "when were you in that other room, David?"}, {"end": "00:24:48", "start": "00:24:42", "text": "When I got Well, it looked something"}, {"end": "00:24:51", "start": "00:24:45", "text": "like in the hospital. Doctor. Okay,"}, {"end": "00:24:54", "start": "00:24:48", "text": "David. We're going to let this go. You"}, {"end": "00:24:57", "start": "00:24:51", "text": "won't see that anymore. I'd like you to"}, {"end": "00:25:00", "start": "00:24:54", "text": "tell me when you went to the hospital."}, {"end": "00:25:05", "start": "00:24:57", "text": "David, I got my appendix out."}, {"end": "00:25:07", "start": "00:25:00", "text": "Doctor, when was that, David? I was in"}, {"end": "00:25:10", "start": "00:25:05", "text": "grade four."}, {"end": "00:25:13", "start": "00:25:07", "text": "Doctor, okay, you're going to go right"}, {"end": "00:25:14", "start": "00:25:10", "text": "back to when you were in grade four. You"}, {"end": "00:25:17", "start": "00:25:13", "text": "had to go to the hospital because you"}, {"end": "00:25:19", "start": "00:25:14", "text": "had to have an operation. Now tell me"}, {"end": "00:25:22", "start": "00:25:17", "text": "something about that hospital and what"}, {"end": "00:25:24", "start": "00:25:19", "text": "it looks like. David, you mean in the"}, {"end": "00:25:28", "start": "00:25:22", "text": "operating room?"}, {"end": "00:25:30", "start": "00:25:24", "text": "Doctor, yes, if you'd like. David, they"}, {"end": "00:25:33", "start": "00:25:28", "text": "have these big lights, shiny ones."}, {"end": "00:25:36", "start": "00:25:30", "text": "Doctor, how many doctors do you see?"}, {"end": "00:25:39", "start": "00:25:33", "text": "David, two. Doctor, what are they"}, {"end": "00:25:42", "start": "00:25:36", "text": "wearing? What is on their faces? David,"}, {"end": "00:25:44", "start": "00:25:39", "text": "a white sort of mask. Doctor, do you see"}, {"end": "00:25:48", "start": "00:25:42", "text": "anything else in the operating room?"}, {"end": "00:25:52", "start": "00:25:44", "text": "David. Nurses. Doctor, how many nurses"}, {"end": "00:25:55", "start": "00:25:48", "text": "do you see? David, three."}, {"end": "00:25:57", "start": "00:25:52", "text": "Doctor, is the doctor saying anything?"}, {"end": "00:26:00", "start": "00:25:55", "text": "David, no."}, {"end": "00:26:03", "start": "00:25:57", "text": "Doctor, are the nurses saying anything?"}, {"end": "00:26:07", "start": "00:26:00", "text": "David, no."}, {"end": "00:26:11", "start": "00:26:03", "text": "Doctor, what does the doctor do to you?"}, {"end": "00:26:13", "start": "00:26:07", "text": "David, he cuts my stomach open. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:26:14", "start": "00:26:11", "text": "just a minute. Before he cuts your"}, {"end": "00:26:18", "start": "00:26:13", "text": "stomach open, does he give you an"}, {"end": "00:26:20", "start": "00:26:14", "text": "anesthetic? David, they gave me that in"}, {"end": "00:26:22", "start": "00:26:18", "text": "the room."}, {"end": "00:26:26", "start": "00:26:20", "text": "Doctor, how did they give you the"}, {"end": "00:26:28", "start": "00:26:22", "text": "anesthetic? David, it was a needle."}, {"end": "00:26:32", "start": "00:26:26", "text": "Doctor, who gave you this needle? The"}, {"end": "00:26:35", "start": "00:26:28", "text": "doctor or the nurse? David. The nurse."}, {"end": "00:26:37", "start": "00:26:32", "text": "Doctor, I want you to see the nurse as"}, {"end": "00:26:40", "start": "00:26:35", "text": "she's giving you the needle. What color"}, {"end": "00:26:42", "start": "00:26:37", "text": "is the nurse's hair? David."}, {"end": "00:26:46", "start": "00:26:40", "text": "Brown."}, {"end": "00:26:50", "start": "00:26:42", "text": "Doctor, what color is her face? David,"}, {"end": "00:26:53", "start": "00:26:46", "text": "like ours, flesh colored. Doctor, is she"}, {"end": "00:26:57", "start": "00:26:50", "text": "wearing a mask? David, no."}, {"end": "00:27:00", "start": "00:26:53", "text": "Doctor, how do you feel now? David, I"}, {"end": "00:27:04", "start": "00:26:57", "text": "start to get sleepy. Doctor, are you"}, {"end": "00:27:07", "start": "00:27:00", "text": "closing your eyes? David? Yes."}, {"end": "00:27:09", "start": "00:27:04", "text": "Doctor, now where do you go from the"}, {"end": "00:27:12", "start": "00:27:07", "text": "place where you had the needle? David,"}, {"end": "00:27:15", "start": "00:27:09", "text": "the operating room. Doctor, and how do"}, {"end": "00:27:19", "start": "00:27:12", "text": "you get there, David? David, on a table,"}, {"end": "00:27:21", "start": "00:27:15", "text": "doctor. Okay, your eyes are closed."}, {"end": "00:27:24", "start": "00:27:19", "text": "You've had the needle. And now I want"}, {"end": "00:27:26", "start": "00:27:21", "text": "you to tell me what you are seeing."}, {"end": "00:27:28", "start": "00:27:24", "text": "David, the orderly comes in and he puts"}, {"end": "00:27:31", "start": "00:27:26", "text": "me on a table and wheels me to the"}, {"end": "00:27:34", "start": "00:27:28", "text": "operating room. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:27:39", "start": "00:27:31", "text": "can you see the orderly? David. Yes."}, {"end": "00:27:41", "start": "00:27:34", "text": "Doctor, what does he look like? David,"}, {"end": "00:27:44", "start": "00:27:39", "text": "he's an old man and he's dressed in"}, {"end": "00:27:46", "start": "00:27:41", "text": "white and he has white shoes on. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:27:48", "start": "00:27:44", "text": "what does he look like exactly? You say"}, {"end": "00:27:51", "start": "00:27:46", "text": "he's an old man. Tell me everything"}, {"end": "00:27:55", "start": "00:27:48", "text": "about him. David, he's got wrinkles on"}, {"end": "00:27:59", "start": "00:27:51", "text": "his face and hands, a big nose."}, {"end": "00:28:00", "start": "00:27:55", "text": "Doctor, what about his hair? David, it's"}, {"end": "00:28:02", "start": "00:27:59", "text": "gray."}, {"end": "00:28:04", "start": "00:28:00", "text": "In a review of the tape of this hypnotic"}, {"end": "00:28:06", "start": "00:28:02", "text": "session, it is obvious to the listener"}, {"end": "00:28:08", "start": "00:28:04", "text": "that the psychologist is trying his"}, {"end": "00:28:11", "start": "00:28:06", "text": "professional best to somehow connect"}, {"end": "00:28:13", "start": "00:28:08", "text": "David's aliens with the surgeons that"}, {"end": "00:28:16", "start": "00:28:11", "text": "operated him on the Canadian in the"}, {"end": "00:28:18", "start": "00:28:13", "text": "Canadian hospital. However, David"}, {"end": "00:28:22", "start": "00:28:16", "text": "remained consistent in his story"}, {"end": "00:28:24", "start": "00:28:18", "text": "throughout. Doctor the orderly. Does he"}, {"end": "00:28:26", "start": "00:28:22", "text": "have a lot of wrinkles? David. Yes."}, {"end": "00:28:29", "start": "00:28:24", "text": "Doctor, can you tell me something else"}, {"end": "00:28:32", "start": "00:28:26", "text": "about him? Is he tall? Is he short?"}, {"end": "00:28:36", "start": "00:28:29", "text": "David, he's short."}, {"end": "00:28:41", "start": "00:28:32", "text": "Doctor, does he talk to you? David, no."}, {"end": "00:28:44", "start": "00:28:36", "text": "Doctor, what does he do? David, he just"}, {"end": "00:28:47", "start": "00:28:41", "text": "brings me and puts me on the table and"}, {"end": "00:28:49", "start": "00:28:44", "text": "wheels me to the operating room. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:28:52", "start": "00:28:47", "text": "who puts you on the table in the"}, {"end": "00:28:55", "start": "00:28:49", "text": "operating room, David? The same orderly."}, {"end": "00:28:58", "start": "00:28:52", "text": "Doctor, does he say anything then?"}, {"end": "00:29:00", "start": "00:28:55", "text": "David, no, he just leaves."}, {"end": "00:29:03", "start": "00:28:58", "text": "Doctor, as he leaves, do you look at"}, {"end": "00:29:05", "start": "00:29:00", "text": "him? Try to look at him. Is there"}, {"end": "00:29:10", "start": "00:29:03", "text": "something else you can tell me about"}, {"end": "00:29:13", "start": "00:29:05", "text": "this orderly? David. No."}, {"end": "00:29:16", "start": "00:29:10", "text": "Doctor, you're in the operating room"}, {"end": "00:29:19", "start": "00:29:13", "text": "now. Who's the first person you see?"}, {"end": "00:29:21", "start": "00:29:16", "text": "David. The doctor."}, {"end": "00:29:25", "start": "00:29:19", "text": "Doctor."}, {"end": "00:29:28", "start": "00:29:21", "text": "What does the doctor look like? David."}, {"end": "00:29:30", "start": "00:29:25", "text": "He has black hair, wears glasses, has a"}, {"end": "00:29:34", "start": "00:29:28", "text": "mask over his face, has one of those"}, {"end": "00:29:38", "start": "00:29:30", "text": "white sort of dresses on and gloves."}, {"end": "00:29:41", "start": "00:29:34", "text": "Doctor, what do the gloves look like?"}, {"end": "00:29:45", "start": "00:29:38", "text": "David, they're sort of rubber gloves."}, {"end": "00:29:48", "start": "00:29:41", "text": "Doctor, what color are they? David, sort"}, {"end": "00:29:50", "start": "00:29:45", "text": "of white."}, {"end": "00:29:52", "start": "00:29:48", "text": "Under the persistent questioning, David"}, {"end": "00:29:55", "start": "00:29:50", "text": "goes on to describe the other masked"}, {"end": "00:29:58", "start": "00:29:52", "text": "doctor in the room who is gray hair and"}, {"end": "00:30:00", "start": "00:29:55", "text": "doesn't wear glasses. The nurses who are"}, {"end": "00:30:02", "start": "00:29:58", "text": "also masked wearing white dresses and"}, {"end": "00:30:05", "start": "00:30:00", "text": "white shoes. The psychologist probes for"}, {"end": "00:30:07", "start": "00:30:02", "text": "a more detailed description of the"}, {"end": "00:30:09", "start": "00:30:05", "text": "surgery's team's hands, hoping to find"}, {"end": "00:30:12", "start": "00:30:07", "text": "the link in David's mind, which will"}, {"end": "00:30:17", "start": "00:30:09", "text": "connect with the four-fingered brown"}, {"end": "00:30:19", "start": "00:30:12", "text": "scaly alien hands. He doesn't succeed."}, {"end": "00:30:21", "start": "00:30:17", "text": "I like that they included this. It's"}, {"end": "00:30:24", "start": "00:30:19", "text": "really, I think, important to include"}, {"end": "00:30:26", "start": "00:30:21", "text": "this as well, that the psychologist"}, {"end": "00:30:30", "start": "00:30:24", "text": "isn't completely just leaning into the"}, {"end": "00:30:32", "start": "00:30:26", "text": "alien possibility, but also exploring, I"}, {"end": "00:30:34", "start": "00:30:30", "text": "think, with healthy skepticism, the"}, {"end": "00:30:37", "start": "00:30:32", "text": "possibility that this child might just"}, {"end": "00:30:40", "start": "00:30:34", "text": "be recalling some other traumatic event."}, {"end": "00:30:43", "start": "00:30:37", "text": "And this comes up time and time again"}, {"end": "00:30:48", "start": "00:30:40", "text": "during regression, hypnotic regression"}, {"end": "00:30:50", "start": "00:30:43", "text": "sessions. People often think that a lot"}, {"end": "00:30:53", "start": "00:30:48", "text": "of these abductions are just some type"}, {"end": "00:30:55", "start": "00:30:50", "text": "of former trauma or even like sexual"}, {"end": "00:30:57", "start": "00:30:53", "text": "trauma that has been repressed in the"}, {"end": "00:31:00", "start": "00:30:55", "text": "past. And I don't think that that can be"}, {"end": "00:31:04", "start": "00:30:57", "text": "completely excluded,"}, {"end": "00:31:05", "start": "00:31:00", "text": "but I think definitely isn't always the"}, {"end": "00:31:06", "start": "00:31:04", "text": "case."}, {"end": "00:31:10", "start": "00:31:05", "text": "I think it's important to look at this"}, {"end": "00:31:13", "start": "00:31:06", "text": "in that way that you know perhaps there"}, {"end": "00:31:15", "start": "00:31:10", "text": "is some type of even self-inflicted"}, {"end": "00:31:17", "start": "00:31:13", "text": "screen memory that we impose in our own"}, {"end": "00:31:20", "start": "00:31:15", "text": "minds to hide us from some traumatic"}, {"end": "00:31:21", "start": "00:31:17", "text": "event but then also equally interesting"}, {"end": "00:31:24", "start": "00:31:20", "text": "to see"}, {"end": "00:31:26", "start": "00:31:21", "text": "two similar events be described"}, {"end": "00:31:28", "start": "00:31:24", "text": "completely differently and that there is"}, {"end": "00:31:31", "start": "00:31:26", "text": "no link between the two. I think that's"}, {"end": "00:31:32", "start": "00:31:28", "text": "just a really interesting point here. So"}, {"end": "00:31:34", "start": "00:31:31", "text": "if anyone else was thinking, well, it's"}, {"end": "00:31:37", "start": "00:31:32", "text": "probably just like when he went to the"}, {"end": "00:31:39", "start": "00:31:34", "text": "hospital, then why would he describe it"}, {"end": "00:31:41", "start": "00:31:37", "text": "so differently if it was the same event?"}, {"end": "00:31:45", "start": "00:31:39", "text": "Clearly, this child, at least"}, {"end": "00:31:47", "start": "00:31:41", "text": "subconsciously, knows the difference."}, {"end": "00:31:50", "start": "00:31:45", "text": "Doctor, what about the nurse's hands?"}, {"end": "00:31:54", "start": "00:31:47", "text": "David, they have gloves on, too. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:31:57", "start": "00:31:50", "text": "are the gloves very tight? David, yes."}, {"end": "00:32:01", "start": "00:31:54", "text": "Doctor, can you tell me something else"}, {"end": "00:32:03", "start": "00:31:57", "text": "about their hands? David, pause."}, {"end": "00:32:06", "start": "00:32:01", "text": "The nurses."}, {"end": "00:32:09", "start": "00:32:03", "text": "Doctor. Anybody's hands. David. The"}, {"end": "00:32:11", "start": "00:32:06", "text": "doctor's hands had hair on them and he"}, {"end": "00:32:14", "start": "00:32:09", "text": "had scissors in them and a needle."}, {"end": "00:32:17", "start": "00:32:11", "text": "Doctor, a needle. David. The nurse had"}, {"end": "00:32:21", "start": "00:32:14", "text": "the needle. Doctor, what was she doing"}, {"end": "00:32:24", "start": "00:32:17", "text": "with the needle? David, she was just"}, {"end": "00:32:29", "start": "00:32:21", "text": "holding it. Doctor, does the doctor put"}, {"end": "00:32:32", "start": "00:32:24", "text": "anything in your arm? David, no. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:32:37", "start": "00:32:29", "text": "doesn't he put anything over your nose?"}, {"end": "00:32:41", "start": "00:32:32", "text": "David, no. Doctor, are you asleep or are"}, {"end": "00:32:43", "start": "00:32:37", "text": "you awake? David, asleep."}, {"end": "00:32:47", "start": "00:32:41", "text": "Doctor, he cut your stomach open. What"}, {"end": "00:32:51", "start": "00:32:43", "text": "do you feel, David? Nothing."}, {"end": "00:32:53", "start": "00:32:47", "text": "Doctor, how do you feel all over? David,"}, {"end": "00:32:56", "start": "00:32:51", "text": "I don't feel anything."}, {"end": "00:32:58", "start": "00:32:53", "text": "Doctor, what happened right after that?"}, {"end": "00:33:01", "start": "00:32:56", "text": "Right after you came out of the"}, {"end": "00:33:05", "start": "00:32:58", "text": "operating room, David, they just wheeled"}, {"end": "00:33:07", "start": "00:33:01", "text": "me in and placed me on the bed, doctor."}, {"end": "00:33:09", "start": "00:33:05", "text": "And then what happened after that,"}, {"end": "00:33:10", "start": "00:33:07", "text": "David?"}, {"end": "00:33:12", "start": "00:33:09", "text": "Nothing,"}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:10", "text": "doctor."}, {"end": "00:33:16", "start": "00:33:12", "text": "There is something happening."}, {"end": "00:33:24", "start": "00:33:17", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:33:26", "start": "00:33:19", "text": "well, I went to sleep. Doctor, how did"}, {"end": "00:33:30", "start": "00:33:24", "text": "you feel when you went to sleep?"}, {"end": "00:33:32", "start": "00:33:26", "text": "David tired"}, {"end": "00:33:35", "start": "00:33:30", "text": "doctor. All right. You slept for quite a"}, {"end": "00:33:38", "start": "00:33:32", "text": "while. And what happens after that?"}, {"end": "00:33:41", "start": "00:33:35", "text": "David. The next day, my parents come to"}, {"end": "00:33:42", "start": "00:33:38", "text": "visit me, doctor."}, {"end": "00:33:47", "start": "00:33:41", "text": "And when did you get out of the"}, {"end": "00:33:49", "start": "00:33:42", "text": "hospital? David. 4 days later. Doctor."}, {"end": "00:33:52", "start": "00:33:47", "text": "And how did you feel when you got out of"}, {"end": "00:33:54", "start": "00:33:49", "text": "the hospital, David? My stomach hurt."}, {"end": "00:33:57", "start": "00:33:52", "text": "The psychologist again, in an attempt to"}, {"end": "00:33:59", "start": "00:33:54", "text": "link David's hospital experience to his"}, {"end": "00:34:01", "start": "00:33:57", "text": "physical examination aboard the UFO,"}, {"end": "00:34:03", "start": "00:33:59", "text": "takes him back to the moment the alien"}, {"end": "00:34:05", "start": "00:34:01", "text": "has given him an injection with a"}, {"end": "00:34:06", "start": "00:34:03", "text": "needle."}, {"end": "00:34:10", "start": "00:34:05", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:34:12", "start": "00:34:06", "text": "and what goes on now, David?"}, {"end": "00:34:17", "start": "00:34:10", "text": "Then they put my clothes on again. They"}, {"end": "00:34:20", "start": "00:34:12", "text": "wheeled me out and they beamed me down."}, {"end": "00:34:23", "start": "00:34:17", "text": "Doctor, where did you get down, David?"}, {"end": "00:34:26", "start": "00:34:20", "text": "in the empty lot. Doctor. All right,"}, {"end": "00:34:28", "start": "00:34:23", "text": "David. Right before you saw the ship,"}, {"end": "00:34:30", "start": "00:34:26", "text": "when you were in the empty lot, you're"}, {"end": "00:34:32", "start": "00:34:28", "text": "going to be exactly the same way you"}, {"end": "00:34:34", "start": "00:34:30", "text": "were before you saw the ship. Look"}, {"end": "00:34:36", "start": "00:34:32", "text": "around you and tell me everything that"}, {"end": "00:34:38", "start": "00:34:34", "text": "you see."}, {"end": "00:34:41", "start": "00:34:36", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:34:43", "start": "00:34:38", "text": "I see my friend's house and the trees"}, {"end": "00:34:45", "start": "00:34:41", "text": "around the lot and the roofs of some"}, {"end": "00:34:48", "start": "00:34:43", "text": "houses, and there are street lights and"}, {"end": "00:34:51", "start": "00:34:45", "text": "some old wrecked cars."}, {"end": "00:34:54", "start": "00:34:48", "text": "Doctor, just before you saw the ship,"}, {"end": "00:34:56", "start": "00:34:51", "text": "what are you doing? David,"}, {"end": "00:35:00", "start": "00:34:54", "text": "I'm walking."}, {"end": "00:35:02", "start": "00:34:56", "text": "Doctor, do you hear anything? David,"}, {"end": "00:35:04", "start": "00:35:00", "text": "yes."}, {"end": "00:35:07", "start": "00:35:02", "text": "A high-pitched sound."}, {"end": "00:35:12", "start": "00:35:04", "text": "Doctor, can you imitate the sound for"}, {"end": "00:35:16", "start": "00:35:07", "text": "us? David, no. Doctor, would you try?"}, {"end": "00:35:18", "start": "00:35:12", "text": "David, it's too high. Doctor, what do"}, {"end": "00:35:19", "start": "00:35:16", "text": "you do when you hear it?"}, {"end": "00:35:23", "start": "00:35:18", "text": "David."}, {"end": "00:35:26", "start": "00:35:19", "text": "I look up and I see this great silverish"}, {"end": "00:35:30", "start": "00:35:23", "text": "gray object. Doctor, how big is the"}, {"end": "00:35:32", "start": "00:35:26", "text": "object, David? About as big as a house,"}, {"end": "00:35:37", "start": "00:35:30", "text": "doctor. And how far is it off the"}, {"end": "00:35:39", "start": "00:35:32", "text": "ground? David, about 30 to 40 ft."}, {"end": "00:35:42", "start": "00:35:37", "text": "Doctor, what do you notice about this"}, {"end": "00:35:46", "start": "00:35:39", "text": "object, David? It has colored lights"}, {"end": "00:35:48", "start": "00:35:42", "text": "around the middle which melt together."}, {"end": "00:35:53", "start": "00:35:46", "text": "Doctor, do you feel any wind? Any"}, {"end": "00:35:57", "start": "00:35:48", "text": "vibration? David, just a wind. Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:35:59", "start": "00:35:53", "text": "what reaction do you have? David,"}, {"end": "00:36:04", "start": "00:35:57", "text": "I'm frightened."}, {"end": "00:36:06", "start": "00:35:59", "text": "Doctor, you ran. David, yes, but then"}, {"end": "00:36:08", "start": "00:36:04", "text": "the beam shot down on me, doctor. And"}, {"end": "00:36:11", "start": "00:36:06", "text": "what did the beam do when it shot down"}, {"end": "00:36:13", "start": "00:36:08", "text": "at you, David? It brought me into the"}, {"end": "00:36:15", "start": "00:36:11", "text": "ship."}, {"end": "00:36:17", "start": "00:36:13", "text": "Doctor, now I would like you to come"}, {"end": "00:36:18", "start": "00:36:15", "text": "back to the time just before you see the"}, {"end": "00:36:21", "start": "00:36:17", "text": "ship and just before you hear that"}, {"end": "00:36:23", "start": "00:36:18", "text": "high-pitched sound. What are you doing?"}, {"end": "00:36:25", "start": "00:36:21", "text": "How are you feeling? What are you"}, {"end": "00:36:26", "start": "00:36:23", "text": "thinking?"}, {"end": "00:36:29", "start": "00:36:25", "text": "David,"}, {"end": "00:36:31", "start": "00:36:26", "text": "I was coming from my friend's house. I"}, {"end": "00:36:33", "start": "00:36:29", "text": "felt great. I wasn't thinking about"}, {"end": "00:36:35", "start": "00:36:31", "text": "nothing."}, {"end": "00:36:38", "start": "00:36:33", "text": "Doctor, now right after the beam has"}, {"end": "00:36:39", "start": "00:36:35", "text": "pulled you up and everything, we're"}, {"end": "00:36:42", "start": "00:36:38", "text": "right back and the object has"}, {"end": "00:36:46", "start": "00:36:39", "text": "disappeared. Now, what's going on,"}, {"end": "00:36:49", "start": "00:36:42", "text": "David? I start to run for home, doctor."}, {"end": "00:36:51", "start": "00:36:46", "text": "And how do you feel as you run home?"}, {"end": "00:36:53", "start": "00:36:49", "text": "David, frightened."}, {"end": "00:36:54", "start": "00:36:51", "text": "Doctor,"}, {"end": "00:36:59", "start": "00:36:53", "text": "is there any other feeling that you"}, {"end": "00:37:02", "start": "00:36:54", "text": "have, David? I'm scared. Frightened. I"}, {"end": "00:37:06", "start": "00:36:59", "text": "feel sort of numb. Doctor, where do you"}, {"end": "00:37:08", "start": "00:37:02", "text": "feel numb? David, all over. Doctor, is"}, {"end": "00:37:10", "start": "00:37:06", "text": "there any part of your body that feels"}, {"end": "00:37:17", "start": "00:37:08", "text": "different from any other part of your"}, {"end": "00:37:20", "start": "00:37:10", "text": "body? David? Yes. My head."}, {"end": "00:37:24", "start": "00:37:17", "text": "Doctor, how does your head feel, David?"}, {"end": "00:37:28", "start": "00:37:20", "text": "Like it was twirling around, doctor."}, {"end": "00:37:31", "start": "00:37:24", "text": "How does this shoulder feel, David? It"}, {"end": "00:37:36", "start": "00:37:28", "text": "doesn't hurt. Doctor, how does your"}, {"end": "00:37:40", "start": "00:37:31", "text": "chest feel, David? Okay, doctor. How"}, {"end": "00:37:42", "start": "00:37:36", "text": "does your tummy feel, David? Okay,"}, {"end": "00:37:47", "start": "00:37:40", "text": "doctor."}, {"end": "00:37:49", "start": "00:37:42", "text": "And how do your legs feel, David? Numb."}, {"end": "00:37:51", "start": "00:37:47", "text": "Doctor, I'm going to wake you now."}, {"end": "00:37:54", "start": "00:37:49", "text": "You're back at the present. After you"}, {"end": "00:37:56", "start": "00:37:51", "text": "wake up, you'll be wide awake. You'll be"}, {"end": "00:37:59", "start": "00:37:54", "text": "alert. You'll feel confident. You'll"}, {"end": "00:38:03", "start": "00:37:56", "text": "feel fine. All the hypnotic regression"}, {"end": "00:38:06", "start": "00:37:59", "text": "sessions with David Seaw. Oh, we have a"}, {"end": "00:38:08", "start": "00:38:03", "text": "name here. David Seawald."}, {"end": "00:38:11", "start": "00:38:06", "text": "All the hypnotic regression sessions"}, {"end": "00:38:13", "start": "00:38:08", "text": "with David Seawald were videotaped, but"}, {"end": "00:38:16", "start": "00:38:11", "text": "efforts to obtain copies or transcripts"}, {"end": "00:38:17", "start": "00:38:13", "text": "of the experiment have been denied"}, {"end": "00:38:19", "start": "00:38:16", "text": "because of the wrinkled orderly who"}, {"end": "00:38:21", "start": "00:38:17", "text": "wheeled David into that hospital"}, {"end": "00:38:24", "start": "00:38:19", "text": "operating room for an appendecttomy"}, {"end": "00:38:26", "start": "00:38:21", "text": "years before. And because David equated"}, {"end": "00:38:29", "start": "00:38:24", "text": "the room he was taken to on the craft as"}, {"end": "00:38:32", "start": "00:38:26", "text": "an operating room, the psychologist felt"}, {"end": "00:38:34", "start": "00:38:29", "text": "the problem was solved and David had"}, {"end": "00:38:36", "start": "00:38:32", "text": "gone through some flashback which merged"}, {"end": "00:38:39", "start": "00:38:34", "text": "with watching too many science fiction"}, {"end": "00:38:42", "start": "00:38:36", "text": "TV shows."}, {"end": "00:38:46", "start": "00:38:39", "text": "I tend to I'm not going to agree wholly"}, {"end": "00:38:49", "start": "00:38:42", "text": "with the psychologist's take, but I will"}, {"end": "00:38:52", "start": "00:38:46", "text": "I do understand why one would as a"}, {"end": "00:38:55", "start": "00:38:49", "text": "professional come to that conclusion."}, {"end": "00:38:57", "start": "00:38:52", "text": "Again, we talk about this idea of either"}, {"end": "00:38:59", "start": "00:38:55", "text": "ignoring information, fitting it into"}, {"end": "00:39:01", "start": "00:38:57", "text": "the current model, or expanding your"}, {"end": "00:39:04", "start": "00:38:59", "text": "worldview. Those are the three options"}, {"end": "00:39:06", "start": "00:39:01", "text": "when faced with these types of accounts."}, {"end": "00:39:08", "start": "00:39:04", "text": "Uh the first one obviously being off the"}, {"end": "00:39:10", "start": "00:39:06", "text": "table, the second one being what we see"}, {"end": "00:39:13", "start": "00:39:08", "text": "here. You know, finding those points of"}, {"end": "00:39:15", "start": "00:39:10", "text": "connection to try and fit it into the"}, {"end": "00:39:17", "start": "00:39:13", "text": "current model seems to be what most"}, {"end": "00:39:19", "start": "00:39:15", "text": "people would do in this instance. And I"}, {"end": "00:39:20", "start": "00:39:17", "text": "can't necessarily blame them. I think as"}, {"end": "00:39:22", "start": "00:39:19", "text": "a professional if you're not aware of"}, {"end": "00:39:25", "start": "00:39:20", "text": "this phenomenon and you've not looked"}, {"end": "00:39:26", "start": "00:39:22", "text": "into it enough or you know studied the"}, {"end": "00:39:29", "start": "00:39:25", "text": "works of you know people like John Mack"}, {"end": "00:39:32", "start": "00:39:26", "text": "and Bud Hopkins etc. I don't think that"}, {"end": "00:39:35", "start": "00:39:29", "text": "you be familiar with these cases enough"}, {"end": "00:39:37", "start": "00:39:32", "text": "to expand your worldview. So I don't"}, {"end": "00:39:39", "start": "00:39:35", "text": "blame the psychologists here for doing"}, {"end": "00:39:42", "start": "00:39:37", "text": "that. The most recent inquiry about"}, {"end": "00:39:44", "start": "00:39:39", "text": "those exceptional videotapes brought the"}, {"end": "00:39:45", "start": "00:39:42", "text": "response that they had been erased."}, {"end": "00:39:47", "start": "00:39:44", "text": "There are far too many common"}, {"end": "00:39:50", "start": "00:39:45", "text": "denominators between the David Seawald"}, {"end": "00:39:53", "start": "00:39:47", "text": "experience and other contact kidnappings"}, {"end": "00:39:56", "start": "00:39:50", "text": "to dismiss this significant case so"}, {"end": "00:39:59", "start": "00:39:53", "text": "easily. The three aliens that approached"}, {"end": "00:40:01", "start": "00:39:56", "text": "Argentine truck driverio"}, {"end": "00:40:05", "start": "00:39:59", "text": "Lena in his early morning hours on"}, {"end": "00:40:08", "start": "00:40:01", "text": "October 28th, 1973 as he attempted to"}, {"end": "00:40:10", "start": "00:40:05", "text": "change a flat tire were definitely more"}, {"end": "00:40:13", "start": "00:40:08", "text": "human and attractive than those"}, {"end": "00:40:16", "start": "00:40:10", "text": "described by David Seaw. Still, Lanka"}, {"end": "00:40:17", "start": "00:40:13", "text": "would have run if he could have. I I'm"}, {"end": "00:40:19", "start": "00:40:16", "text": "not familiar with this case. Very"}, {"end": "00:40:21", "start": "00:40:17", "text": "interesting. I'd like to hear more about"}, {"end": "00:40:23", "start": "00:40:19", "text": "this. I I'm fascinated with the cases"}, {"end": "00:40:26", "start": "00:40:21", "text": "of, you know, contact experiences that"}, {"end": "00:40:27", "start": "00:40:23", "text": "involve beings that look like us. Well,"}, {"end": "00:40:30", "start": "00:40:26", "text": "this might be really interesting to look"}, {"end": "00:40:32", "start": "00:40:27", "text": "into. Can you give me a brief summary"}, {"end": "00:40:36", "start": "00:40:30", "text": "about this man's interaction with these"}, {"end": "00:40:38", "start": "00:40:32", "text": "beings and what exactly happened?"}, {"end": "00:40:41", "start": "00:40:36", "text": "Sure. Dianio Lanca's encounter happened"}, {"end": "00:40:44", "start": "00:40:38", "text": "in October 1973 when he was changing a"}, {"end": "00:40:46", "start": "00:40:41", "text": "tire on his truck near Bajia Blanca,"}, {"end": "00:40:48", "start": "00:40:44", "text": "Argentina. He described seeing a bright"}, {"end": "00:40:50", "start": "00:40:46", "text": "light and then being approached by three"}, {"end": "00:40:53", "start": "00:40:48", "text": "humanoid beings, two males and one"}, {"end": "00:40:55", "start": "00:40:50", "text": "female, who had long blonde hair and"}, {"end": "00:40:57", "start": "00:40:53", "text": "wore tight gray seats. He remembered"}, {"end": "00:40:59", "start": "00:40:55", "text": "being paralyzed and then taken aboard a"}, {"end": "00:41:01", "start": "00:40:57", "text": "saucer-shaped craft where they performed"}, {"end": "00:41:03", "start": "00:40:59", "text": "some kind of procedure on him. He later"}, {"end": "00:41:06", "start": "00:41:01", "text": "woke up several kilometers away,"}, {"end": "00:41:08", "start": "00:41:03", "text": "confused and with partial amnesia. The"}, {"end": "00:41:10", "start": "00:41:06", "text": "incident was investigated extensively"}, {"end": "00:41:13", "start": "00:41:08", "text": "and it remains one of Argentina's most"}, {"end": "00:41:17", "start": "00:41:10", "text": "well-known abduction stories."}, {"end": "00:41:18", "start": "00:41:13", "text": "Phenomenal. That is incredible. Um, I'm"}, {"end": "00:41:21", "start": "00:41:17", "text": "I'm going to research that case a little"}, {"end": "00:41:23", "start": "00:41:18", "text": "bit more. And again, just lovely to"}, {"end": "00:41:25", "start": "00:41:21", "text": "hear. I mean, lovely to hear. It's"}, {"end": "00:41:27", "start": "00:41:23", "text": "terrifying, but at the same time, it"}, {"end": "00:41:30", "start": "00:41:25", "text": "it's good to hear corroborating evidence"}, {"end": "00:41:33", "start": "00:41:27", "text": "that these things aren't just happening"}, {"end": "00:41:35", "start": "00:41:30", "text": "locally in the United States. I have so"}, {"end": "00:41:36", "start": "00:41:33", "text": "many books and magazines here that are"}, {"end": "00:41:38", "start": "00:41:35", "text": "from all around the world. Every single"}, {"end": "00:41:39", "start": "00:41:36", "text": "one of these is from like a different"}, {"end": "00:41:41", "start": "00:41:38", "text": "part of the world that isn't like the"}, {"end": "00:41:43", "start": "00:41:39", "text": "United States. And and so to anyone"}, {"end": "00:41:45", "start": "00:41:41", "text": "thinking, \"Oh, why is it always just the"}, {"end": "00:41:49", "start": "00:41:43", "text": "US?\" It really isn't. It really really"}, {"end": "00:41:52", "start": "00:41:45", "text": "isn't. It's it across the board. It's"}, {"end": "00:41:54", "start": "00:41:49", "text": "everywhere. Let's hear about Mr. Lanka's"}, {"end": "00:41:57", "start": "00:41:52", "text": "case a little bit more here. It says, \"I"}, {"end": "00:41:59", "start": "00:41:54", "text": "break the truck on the shoulder, got"}, {"end": "00:42:02", "start": "00:41:57", "text": "down, took out the jack and tools, and"}, {"end": "00:42:04", "start": "00:41:59", "text": "began to change the tire.\" Lanka stated"}, {"end": "00:42:07", "start": "00:42:02", "text": "after he regained his memory following 3"}, {"end": "00:42:09", "start": "00:42:04", "text": "days of total amnesia, open quote, \"The"}, {"end": "00:42:12", "start": "00:42:07", "text": "road was completely deserted. All at"}, {"end": "00:42:13", "start": "00:42:09", "text": "once, the road was illuminated with an"}, {"end": "00:42:17", "start": "00:42:12", "text": "intense yellow light that seemed to be"}, {"end": "00:42:20", "start": "00:42:13", "text": "about 2,000 m away. Because of the"}, {"end": "00:42:23", "start": "00:42:17", "text": "color, I thought that they might be the"}, {"end": "00:42:25", "start": "00:42:20", "text": "headlights of a pujo and continued my"}, {"end": "00:42:29", "start": "00:42:23", "text": "work."}, {"end": "00:42:31", "start": "00:42:25", "text": "Pujo being a type of car. A few seconds"}, {"end": "00:42:35", "start": "00:42:29", "text": "passed. Then the light became so bright"}, {"end": "00:42:37", "start": "00:42:31", "text": "that it lit up the entire area. Now the"}, {"end": "00:42:40", "start": "00:42:35", "text": "light had changed to a bluish color,"}, {"end": "00:42:42", "start": "00:42:37", "text": "similar to an electric arc welder. I"}, {"end": "00:42:45", "start": "00:42:40", "text": "tried to get up but could not rise. I"}, {"end": "00:42:48", "start": "00:42:42", "text": "had no strength. And a strange thing, my"}, {"end": "00:42:50", "start": "00:42:45", "text": "legs would not respond. Lanka turned"}, {"end": "00:42:54", "start": "00:42:48", "text": "around to see a luminous great thing in"}, {"end": "00:42:56", "start": "00:42:50", "text": "the form of a plate hovering nearby and"}, {"end": "00:42:58", "start": "00:42:54", "text": "three people, two men and a woman,"}, {"end": "00:43:01", "start": "00:42:56", "text": "dressed in silver suits with yellow"}, {"end": "00:43:03", "start": "00:42:58", "text": "boots and gloves, standing next to him."}, {"end": "00:43:06", "start": "00:43:01", "text": "The trucker, totally paralyzed, watched"}, {"end": "00:43:09", "start": "00:43:03", "text": "in horror as a strange apparatus was"}, {"end": "00:43:10", "start": "00:43:06", "text": "held against his index finger. Lanka"}, {"end": "00:43:14", "start": "00:43:09", "text": "believes he passed out immediately after"}, {"end": "00:43:17", "start": "00:43:10", "text": "this. Later, he described their faces as"}, {"end": "00:43:19", "start": "00:43:14", "text": "much like ours, except for high"}, {"end": "00:43:23", "start": "00:43:17", "text": "foreheads and elongated eyes like the"}, {"end": "00:43:26", "start": "00:43:19", "text": "Japanese and a little tilted."}, {"end": "00:43:29", "start": "00:43:23", "text": "Whoa, what an interesting what an"}, {"end": "00:43:31", "start": "00:43:26", "text": "interesting thing. Were we looked at was"}, {"end": "00:43:33", "start": "00:43:29", "text": "it Staffordshire? I can't particularly"}, {"end": "00:43:37", "start": "00:43:31", "text": "remember the case, but this lady"}, {"end": "00:43:40", "start": "00:43:33", "text": "allegedly saw beings wearing light blue"}, {"end": "00:43:44", "start": "00:43:37", "text": "with golden hair, but she also said they"}, {"end": "00:43:47", "start": "00:43:40", "text": "were beautiful. but had larger foreheads"}, {"end": "00:43:49", "start": "00:43:44", "text": "and um they were uh they had beautiful"}, {"end": "00:43:51", "start": "00:43:47", "text": "faces. I shall never forget their faces"}, {"end": "00:43:56", "start": "00:43:49", "text": "as long as I live. Their foreheads seem"}, {"end": "00:43:58", "start": "00:43:51", "text": "to be a bit larger than you know the the"}, {"end": "00:44:01", "start": "00:43:56", "text": "bottom of their faces as as normal"}, {"end": "00:44:03", "start": "00:43:58", "text": "people you would expect to see. So"}, {"end": "00:44:06", "start": "00:44:01", "text": "again, just more corroborating evidence"}, {"end": "00:44:08", "start": "00:44:03", "text": "of these Nordic humanoid type beings"}, {"end": "00:44:10", "start": "00:44:06", "text": "existing. If we got one of you watching"}, {"end": "00:44:12", "start": "00:44:08", "text": "out there, some type of hybrid Nordic"}, {"end": "00:44:14", "start": "00:44:10", "text": "humanoid looking person,"}, {"end": "00:44:16", "start": "00:44:12", "text": "find a way to get in touch with me. Get"}, {"end": "00:44:19", "start": "00:44:14", "text": "your people to talk to my people. Let's"}, {"end": "00:44:21", "start": "00:44:16", "text": "get you on the podcast once and for all."}, {"end": "00:44:23", "start": "00:44:19", "text": "Let's have a let's have a discussion."}, {"end": "00:44:24", "start": "00:44:21", "text": "I'm not opposed to this. I'm not I'm"}, {"end": "00:44:28", "start": "00:44:23", "text": "just going to go out on a limb here and"}, {"end": "00:44:31", "start": "00:44:24", "text": "say that I think"}, {"end": "00:44:35", "start": "00:44:28", "text": "that the Area 52 YouTube channel should"}, {"end": "00:44:38", "start": "00:44:31", "text": "host the very first conversation with a"}, {"end": "00:44:40", "start": "00:44:35", "text": "Nordic being. And and and I'm I'm I'm"}, {"end": "00:44:42", "start": "00:44:38", "text": "reaching out. If you're out there, if"}, {"end": "00:44:44", "start": "00:44:40", "text": "this is real, if any of this is true, I"}, {"end": "00:44:46", "start": "00:44:42", "text": "know you guys are probably hiding in the"}, {"end": "00:44:48", "start": "00:44:44", "text": "shadows or hiding in plain sight or"}, {"end": "00:44:50", "start": "00:44:46", "text": "whatever it is."}, {"end": "00:44:52", "start": "00:44:48", "text": "Figure it out. Talk amongst yourselves."}, {"end": "00:44:55", "start": "00:44:50", "text": "Maybe it's time, maybe it's time that we"}, {"end": "00:44:57", "start": "00:44:52", "text": "have this discussion. So, you know, if"}, {"end": "00:45:00", "start": "00:44:55", "text": "this is true, if this is real, figure"}, {"end": "00:45:01", "start": "00:44:57", "text": "out a way to get in touch and let's have"}, {"end": "00:45:05", "start": "00:45:00", "text": "this conversation. Let's stop"}, {"end": "00:45:07", "start": "00:45:01", "text": "speculating. Let's talk to these,"}, {"end": "00:45:09", "start": "00:45:05", "text": "you know, Nordic folk with the giant"}, {"end": "00:45:11", "start": "00:45:07", "text": "foreheads and, you know, the big eyes."}, {"end": "00:45:13", "start": "00:45:09", "text": "Let's enough of this communicating with"}, {"end": "00:45:15", "start": "00:45:11", "text": "government officials. Can we do away"}, {"end": "00:45:17", "start": "00:45:13", "text": "with this, please?"}, {"end": "00:45:18", "start": "00:45:15", "text": "Clearly,"}, {"end": "00:45:20", "start": "00:45:17", "text": "you must be aware that our government"}, {"end": "00:45:24", "start": "00:45:18", "text": "officials are completely incompetent and"}, {"end": "00:45:26", "start": "00:45:20", "text": "they're solely hellbent and driven on"}, {"end": "00:45:31", "start": "00:45:24", "text": "world destruction and money and greed."}, {"end": "00:45:33", "start": "00:45:26", "text": "Can we just focus on the people who"}, {"end": "00:45:37", "start": "00:45:31", "text": "aren't the rest of us who are looking"}, {"end": "00:45:39", "start": "00:45:33", "text": "for some type of converging event to"}, {"end": "00:45:43", "start": "00:45:37", "text": "take place?"}, {"end": "00:45:46", "start": "00:45:39", "text": "some type of unifying discussion with"}, {"end": "00:45:50", "start": "00:45:43", "text": "non-human intelligence. Can this channel"}, {"end": "00:45:53", "start": "00:45:46", "text": "be that vessel?"}, {"end": "00:45:54", "start": "00:45:50", "text": "Why not? I don't see why not. I know"}, {"end": "00:45:56", "start": "00:45:53", "text": "many of you are probably thinking,"}, {"end": "00:45:59", "start": "00:45:54", "text": "\"Well, Chris, you're off the rocker now."}, {"end": "00:46:01", "start": "00:45:56", "text": "You've completely lost it.\" And uh yeah,"}, {"end": "00:46:03", "start": "00:45:59", "text": "you might be right. You might totally be"}, {"end": "00:46:05", "start": "00:46:01", "text": "right. But I'm I'm going out on a limb"}, {"end": "00:46:07", "start": "00:46:03", "text": "and I'm saying, \"Why not? Why? Let's if"}, {"end": "00:46:08", "start": "00:46:05", "text": "this is real and and you know I'm pretty"}, {"end": "00:46:10", "start": "00:46:07", "text": "high conviction that some of this stuff"}, {"end": "00:46:13", "start": "00:46:08", "text": "like people wouldn't just invent this"}, {"end": "00:46:14", "start": "00:46:10", "text": "now. Okay, maybe there are some"}, {"end": "00:46:16", "start": "00:46:13", "text": "psychological"}, {"end": "00:46:19", "start": "00:46:14", "text": "events that happen that lead people to"}, {"end": "00:46:21", "start": "00:46:16", "text": "believe that they're interacting with"}, {"end": "00:46:24", "start": "00:46:19", "text": "aliens or spacemen or whatever it is."}, {"end": "00:46:27", "start": "00:46:21", "text": "Sure, I'm not going to rule that out"}, {"end": "00:46:30", "start": "00:46:24", "text": "entirely. But if there's even a 1%"}, {"end": "00:46:33", "start": "00:46:27", "text": "chance that this is real, let's have the"}, {"end": "00:46:37", "start": "00:46:30", "text": "conversation."}, {"end": "00:46:38", "start": "00:46:33", "text": "Come on. What are you waiting for? And"}, {"end": "00:46:40", "start": "00:46:37", "text": "it's not like if you come here that"}, {"end": "00:46:43", "start": "00:46:38", "text": "everyone's going to believe you anyways."}, {"end": "00:46:46", "start": "00:46:40", "text": "If you are a hybrid or Nordic or"}, {"end": "00:46:48", "start": "00:46:43", "text": "humanoid looking alien that's, you know,"}, {"end": "00:46:49", "start": "00:46:46", "text": "curious to have a conversation and"}, {"end": "00:46:52", "start": "00:46:48", "text": "curious to see what the audience will"}, {"end": "00:46:54", "start": "00:46:49", "text": "say about it, come on down. I'll accept"}, {"end": "00:46:59", "start": "00:46:52", "text": "you with open arms. Let's see what"}, {"end": "00:47:01", "start": "00:46:54", "text": "happens. I digress. Moving on. Joe Bril,"}, {"end": "00:47:04", "start": "00:46:59", "text": "international coordinator for the mutual"}, {"end": "00:47:06", "start": "00:47:01", "text": "UFO network, MUON, followed up on the"}, {"end": "00:47:08", "start": "00:47:04", "text": "intensive hypnotic regression sessions"}, {"end": "00:47:11", "start": "00:47:06", "text": "of Donos Lanca. Present were"}, {"end": "00:47:13", "start": "00:47:08", "text": "psychiatrists, psychologists, and a"}, {"end": "00:47:16", "start": "00:47:11", "text": "hypnotist."}, {"end": "00:47:18", "start": "00:47:13", "text": "Sodium Pentathol was used in conjunction"}, {"end": "00:47:20", "start": "00:47:16", "text": "with the hypnosis. Because of any lack"}, {"end": "00:47:22", "start": "00:47:18", "text": "of contradictions in his story, as well"}, {"end": "00:47:27", "start": "00:47:20", "text": "as their appraisals of the man, the"}, {"end": "00:47:29", "start": "00:47:22", "text": "group felt Lanca was telling the truth."}, {"end": "00:47:31", "start": "00:47:27", "text": "In a drugged sleep, the truck driver"}, {"end": "00:47:34", "start": "00:47:29", "text": "said he did not understand the language"}, {"end": "00:47:38", "start": "00:47:31", "text": "spoken by the aliens. He compared it to"}, {"end": "00:47:41", "start": "00:47:34", "text": "sounding like a hive of bees or a badly"}, {"end": "00:47:44", "start": "00:47:38", "text": "tuned radio. I heard this terrific"}, {"end": "00:47:48", "start": "00:47:41", "text": "noise. It was just like a giant cauldron"}, {"end": "00:47:50", "start": "00:47:44", "text": "of water being poured onto a a fire, a"}, {"end": "00:47:52", "start": "00:47:48", "text": "sort of noise, you know. Then he"}, {"end": "00:47:55", "start": "00:47:50", "text": "remembered being carried aboard the"}, {"end": "00:47:58", "start": "00:47:52", "text": "alien craft and climbing up with the two"}, {"end": "00:47:59", "start": "00:47:55", "text": "men."}, {"end": "00:48:01", "start": "00:47:58", "text": "Interesting. Again, we're talking about"}, {"end": "00:48:04", "start": "00:47:59", "text": "this buzzing."}, {"end": "00:48:06", "start": "00:48:01", "text": "I wonder if this is potentially a screen"}, {"end": "00:48:10", "start": "00:48:04", "text": "memory to"}, {"end": "00:48:12", "start": "00:48:06", "text": "perhaps mask the actual exchange of"}, {"end": "00:48:14", "start": "00:48:10", "text": "information that was happening between"}, {"end": "00:48:17", "start": "00:48:12", "text": "these beings. Uh, but then I'm also"}, {"end": "00:48:19", "start": "00:48:14", "text": "reminded of Charles Hall and the Tall"}, {"end": "00:48:22", "start": "00:48:17", "text": "Whites who said that they communicated"}, {"end": "00:48:24", "start": "00:48:19", "text": "with this sort of high-pitched sound as"}, {"end": "00:48:26", "start": "00:48:22", "text": "well. And also Whitley Strieber who"}, {"end": "00:48:28", "start": "00:48:24", "text": "describes this"}, {"end": "00:48:30", "start": "00:48:26", "text": "same thing that there's this sort of"}, {"end": "00:48:32", "start": "00:48:28", "text": "like high-pitched sound that happens uh"}, {"end": "00:48:34", "start": "00:48:30", "text": "during communication. So uh very"}, {"end": "00:48:37", "start": "00:48:32", "text": "interesting."}, {"end": "00:48:41", "start": "00:48:34", "text": "Where are you climbing? Dr. Eduardo"}, {"end": "00:48:44", "start": "00:48:37", "text": "Mattis asked. On a staircase."}, {"end": "00:48:47", "start": "00:48:41", "text": "No, along a ray of light, the trucker"}, {"end": "00:48:50", "start": "00:48:44", "text": "responded. Charles Hixon and Calvin"}, {"end": "00:48:53", "start": "00:48:47", "text": "Parker were also floated into a blue"}, {"end": "00:48:56", "start": "00:48:50", "text": "glowing craft in the Pascula incident in"}, {"end": "00:48:59", "start": "00:48:53", "text": "October 1973. a kidnapping which"}, {"end": "00:49:01", "start": "00:48:56", "text": "attracted worldwide attention. Hixon"}, {"end": "00:49:04", "start": "00:48:59", "text": "said the aliens which carried uh them"}, {"end": "00:49:06", "start": "00:49:01", "text": "through the air to the ship were things."}, {"end": "00:49:08", "start": "00:49:04", "text": "He described them as having no apparent"}, {"end": "00:49:11", "start": "00:49:06", "text": "eyes, a slit for a mouth, and wrinkled"}, {"end": "00:49:15", "start": "00:49:08", "text": "skin, a little more metallic looking"}, {"end": "00:49:16", "start": "00:49:11", "text": "than an elephant's. Calvin Parker"}, {"end": "00:49:18", "start": "00:49:15", "text": "doesn't remember his physical"}, {"end": "00:49:21", "start": "00:49:16", "text": "examination on the flying saucer because"}, {"end": "00:49:22", "start": "00:49:18", "text": "he was unconscious after one look at the"}, {"end": "00:49:24", "start": "00:49:21", "text": "beings."}, {"end": "00:49:26", "start": "00:49:22", "text": "There was no attempt at a conversation"}, {"end": "00:49:29", "start": "00:49:24", "text": "other than a few weak murmurss of"}, {"end": "00:49:31", "start": "00:49:26", "text": "protest from Hixon and a soft buzzing"}, {"end": "00:49:34", "start": "00:49:29", "text": "sound in response from one of the"}, {"end": "00:49:36", "start": "00:49:31", "text": "creatures. Still, another link with"}, {"end": "00:49:38", "start": "00:49:34", "text": "David Seawald's description of monsters"}, {"end": "00:49:42", "start": "00:49:36", "text": "occurred in Mexico during the summer of"}, {"end": "00:49:44", "start": "00:49:38", "text": "1972, where a mason and his assistant"}, {"end": "00:49:46", "start": "00:49:42", "text": "were working on a clogged drain on the"}, {"end": "00:49:49", "start": "00:49:44", "text": "second floor of a residence about at"}, {"end": "00:49:53", "start": "00:49:46", "text": "about 2:00 p.m. This was reported in the"}, {"end": "00:49:55", "start": "00:49:49", "text": "Appro Bulletin of December 1973."}, {"end": "00:49:57", "start": "00:49:53", "text": "The men heard a humming sound, which"}, {"end": "00:50:00", "start": "00:49:55", "text": "they ignored, believing it to be a radio"}, {"end": "00:50:03", "start": "00:49:57", "text": "tower in the vicinity."}, {"end": "00:50:06", "start": "00:50:00", "text": "Then they saw the two strange figures"}, {"end": "00:50:09", "start": "00:50:03", "text": "floating towards them, dressed in bright"}, {"end": "00:50:12", "start": "00:50:06", "text": "silvery clothing resembling fish scales."}, {"end": "00:50:15", "start": "00:50:09", "text": "\"Those are masks, and they must be going"}, {"end": "00:50:18", "start": "00:50:12", "text": "to a costume dance,\" thought Poncho"}, {"end": "00:50:21", "start": "00:50:15", "text": "Torres. But as the 7-ft tall creature"}, {"end": "00:50:23", "start": "00:50:18", "text": "came closer, the men got a better and"}, {"end": "00:50:27", "start": "00:50:21", "text": "more frightening look. They were broad"}, {"end": "00:50:29", "start": "00:50:23", "text": "men, much more so than usual, slender,"}, {"end": "00:50:32", "start": "00:50:27", "text": "round heads, long and enlarged near the"}, {"end": "00:50:34", "start": "00:50:29", "text": "chin, silverish in color, and very"}, {"end": "00:50:37", "start": "00:50:32", "text": "bright with two round greenish bumps in"}, {"end": "00:50:41", "start": "00:50:34", "text": "the place of eyes. Small ears, no"}, {"end": "00:50:44", "start": "00:50:37", "text": "visible mouth or nose, pointyended hands"}, {"end": "00:50:46", "start": "00:50:41", "text": "with four fingers, large webbed feet,"}, {"end": "00:50:49", "start": "00:50:44", "text": "and they seem to float in the air."}, {"end": "00:50:52", "start": "00:50:46", "text": "Rayundo Alvarez was quoted as saying,"}, {"end": "00:50:54", "start": "00:50:49", "text": "\"During the same month and year of David"}, {"end": "00:50:57", "start": "00:50:52", "text": "Seawald's experience, two Indians in"}, {"end": "00:50:59", "start": "00:50:54", "text": "Idaho were having trouble with two"}, {"end": "00:51:02", "start": "00:50:57", "text": "chirping aliens who wanted to converse"}, {"end": "00:51:06", "start": "00:50:59", "text": "with them.\" Or so it seemed. As Willie"}, {"end": "00:51:10", "start": "00:51:02", "text": "Beay and Guy TSI drove along Highway 26"}, {"end": "00:51:12", "start": "00:51:06", "text": "near Riri in their old Buick sedan,"}, {"end": "00:51:14", "start": "00:51:10", "text": "there was a sudden blinding flash of"}, {"end": "00:51:16", "start": "00:51:12", "text": "light. The car stopped, although the"}, {"end": "00:51:18", "start": "00:51:14", "text": "brakes had not been applied. A UFO"}, {"end": "00:51:20", "start": "00:51:16", "text": "described as an object with green and"}, {"end": "00:51:22", "start": "00:51:18", "text": "orange lights flashing through holes in"}, {"end": "00:51:24", "start": "00:51:20", "text": "a ring around the rim hovered above"}, {"end": "00:51:28", "start": "00:51:22", "text": "them. Two small figures could be seen"}, {"end": "00:51:30", "start": "00:51:24", "text": "through a transparent dome on top. Then"}, {"end": "00:51:32", "start": "00:51:28", "text": "the dome swung open and an occupant"}, {"end": "00:51:35", "start": "00:51:30", "text": "moved toward the car with a sort of"}, {"end": "00:51:37", "start": "00:51:32", "text": "floating movement."}, {"end": "00:51:38", "start": "00:51:35", "text": "A smaller variety of extraterrestrial"}, {"end": "00:51:41", "start": "00:51:37", "text": "space voyager. This creature was"}, {"end": "00:51:45", "start": "00:51:38", "text": "estimated at slightly over three feet"}, {"end": "00:51:48", "start": "00:51:41", "text": "tall with large high ears, round eyes,"}, {"end": "00:51:51", "start": "00:51:45", "text": "and a slit for a mouth. His face had a"}, {"end": "00:51:54", "start": "00:51:48", "text": "rough look like scars, deep scars, said"}, {"end": "00:51:56", "start": "00:51:51", "text": "one of the Indians. As the alien opened"}, {"end": "00:52:00", "start": "00:51:54", "text": "the left door of the Buick, Guy Tossi"}, {"end": "00:52:03", "start": "00:51:56", "text": "slid as far away from it as he could."}, {"end": "00:52:06", "start": "00:52:00", "text": "Then the car began moving on its own."}, {"end": "00:52:08", "start": "00:52:03", "text": "pulled or towed by some force emanating"}, {"end": "00:52:11", "start": "00:52:06", "text": "from the craft when the car stopped some"}, {"end": "00:52:13", "start": "00:52:08", "text": "75 ft off the highway. Tossy opened the"}, {"end": "00:52:16", "start": "00:52:11", "text": "door and ran for the nearest farmhouse."}, {"end": "00:52:18", "start": "00:52:13", "text": "The petrified Willie Beay was left alone"}, {"end": "00:52:21", "start": "00:52:16", "text": "with the strange being who is making"}, {"end": "00:52:24", "start": "00:52:18", "text": "rapid bird-like sounds. When Tossi"}, {"end": "00:52:26", "start": "00:52:21", "text": "returned with the help, they found Beay"}, {"end": "00:52:29", "start": "00:52:24", "text": "alone, sitting in the front seat with"}, {"end": "00:52:32", "start": "00:52:26", "text": "his eyes tightly closed, a terrified,"}, {"end": "00:52:35", "start": "00:52:29", "text": "trembling man. The car was still in the"}, {"end": "00:52:37", "start": "00:52:32", "text": "field, but the craft was gone."}, {"end": "00:52:41", "start": "00:52:35", "text": "Now, this is really interesting as well."}, {"end": "00:52:43", "start": "00:52:37", "text": "Again, we hear these chirping birdlike"}, {"end": "00:52:45", "start": "00:52:41", "text": "sounds which is mentioned by Whitley,"}, {"end": "00:52:49", "start": "00:52:43", "text": "mentioned by"}, {"end": "00:52:52", "start": "00:52:45", "text": "uh Charles Hull, but also the Ebo"}, {"end": "00:52:55", "start": "00:52:49", "text": "molecular biologist when looking at the"}, {"end": "00:52:57", "start": "00:52:52", "text": "lungs of these in individuals said that"}, {"end": "00:53:00", "start": "00:52:55", "text": "they were more like bird sacks and that"}, {"end": "00:53:03", "start": "00:52:57", "text": "the vibration of these sacks against the"}, {"end": "00:53:06", "start": "00:53:00", "text": "diaphragm would create some type of"}, {"end": "00:53:09", "start": "00:53:03", "text": "humming sound. I am fascinated. It seems"}, {"end": "00:53:11", "start": "00:53:06", "text": "like we're dealing with a multiple array"}, {"end": "00:53:12", "start": "00:53:09", "text": "of different species that all have"}, {"end": "00:53:14", "start": "00:53:11", "text": "similarities."}, {"end": "00:53:16", "start": "00:53:12", "text": "Some of them look like us, some of them"}, {"end": "00:53:18", "start": "00:53:14", "text": "don't, but they all seem to have this"}, {"end": "00:53:21", "start": "00:53:16", "text": "sort of buzzing or high-pitched"}, {"end": "00:53:23", "start": "00:53:18", "text": "communication ability."}, {"end": "00:53:25", "start": "00:53:21", "text": "I just don't know what to make of it."}, {"end": "00:53:28", "start": "00:53:23", "text": "Seems so strange. It does have the"}, {"end": "00:53:30", "start": "00:53:25", "text": "makings for a spooky story. Aliens 7"}, {"end": "00:53:32", "start": "00:53:28", "text": "feet tall, three feet tall, slit for"}, {"end": "00:53:36", "start": "00:53:30", "text": "mouths, four fingers and webbed feet,"}, {"end": "00:53:38", "start": "00:53:32", "text": "wrinkled, scarred, scaly skins, or space"}, {"end": "00:53:40", "start": "00:53:36", "text": "suits, strange languages, and a"}, {"end": "00:53:43", "start": "00:53:38", "text": "technology which utilizes some force to"}, {"end": "00:53:47", "start": "00:53:40", "text": "compel, repel, and maintain a fixed"}, {"end": "00:53:50", "start": "00:53:43", "text": "aerial position. Except in these and"}, {"end": "00:53:52", "start": "00:53:47", "text": "many other contact cases on record, the"}, {"end": "00:53:55", "start": "00:53:50", "text": "parallels and dissimilarities"}, {"end": "00:53:57", "start": "00:53:52", "text": "only serve to prove that there is a type"}, {"end": "00:54:00", "start": "00:53:55", "text": "of consistency."}, {"end": "00:54:03", "start": "00:53:57", "text": "The aliens superior technology and their"}, {"end": "00:54:06", "start": "00:54:00", "text": "intent to examine the biological life on"}, {"end": "00:54:08", "start": "00:54:03", "text": "this planet. Obviously, they are not of"}, {"end": "00:54:11", "start": "00:54:06", "text": "this Earth and from their somewhat"}, {"end": "00:54:14", "start": "00:54:08", "text": "varying descriptions have had different"}, {"end": "00:54:16", "start": "00:54:11", "text": "evolutions and perhaps are coming from"}, {"end": "00:54:17", "start": "00:54:14", "text": "different galaxies."}, {"end": "00:54:20", "start": "00:54:16", "text": "How much more might have been learned"}, {"end": "00:54:23", "start": "00:54:17", "text": "about David Seawald's monsters or their"}, {"end": "00:54:24", "start": "00:54:20", "text": "craft had a more open-minded approach"}, {"end": "00:54:26", "start": "00:54:23", "text": "been taken during those hypnotic"}, {"end": "00:54:28", "start": "00:54:24", "text": "sessions?"}, {"end": "00:54:30", "start": "00:54:26", "text": "If other specialists had been present,"}, {"end": "00:54:32", "start": "00:54:28", "text": "even space technologists or propulsion"}, {"end": "00:54:35", "start": "00:54:30", "text": "experts, who would know the right"}, {"end": "00:54:37", "start": "00:54:32", "text": "questions to ask, what other secrets"}, {"end": "00:54:40", "start": "00:54:35", "text": "might have been uncovered from that"}, {"end": "00:54:42", "start": "00:54:37", "text": "locked door in David's mind?"}, {"end": "00:54:44", "start": "00:54:40", "text": "Shall we treat the next witness brave"}, {"end": "00:54:46", "start": "00:54:42", "text": "enough to admit he or she has been taken"}, {"end": "00:54:48", "start": "00:54:44", "text": "aboard a flying saucer or fortunate"}, {"end": "00:54:51", "start": "00:54:46", "text": "enough to remember like he's been"}, {"end": "00:54:53", "start": "00:54:48", "text": "watching too many Star Trek reruns?"}, {"end": "00:54:56", "start": "00:54:51", "text": "David Seaw Walt, now soft-spoken young"}, {"end": "00:54:58", "start": "00:54:53", "text": "man of 20, still sticks by his story,"}, {"end": "00:55:01", "start": "00:54:56", "text": "and no detail of that vivid experience"}, {"end": "00:55:03", "start": "00:54:58", "text": "has changed. So, hold on. He was 20 in"}, {"end": "00:55:05", "start": "00:55:01", "text": "1976, which makes him considerably"}, {"end": "00:55:08", "start": "00:55:03", "text": "older. Uh, yeah, he might be around 71"}, {"end": "00:55:10", "start": "00:55:05", "text": "now. I guess he has no recurrent"}, {"end": "00:55:12", "start": "00:55:08", "text": "nightmares nor suffered any adverse"}, {"end": "00:55:13", "start": "00:55:10", "text": "physical effects from the encounter."}, {"end": "00:55:15", "start": "00:55:12", "text": "There have been no attempts at"}, {"end": "00:55:19", "start": "00:55:13", "text": "telepathic communication by the alien,"}, {"end": "00:55:21", "start": "00:55:15", "text": "as sometimes occurs in contact cases."}, {"end": "00:55:23", "start": "00:55:19", "text": "Bill Allen, who investigated the case,"}, {"end": "00:55:25", "start": "00:55:21", "text": "does not agree with the psychologist's"}, {"end": "00:55:27", "start": "00:55:23", "text": "conclusion that David's experience was"}, {"end": "00:55:30", "start": "00:55:25", "text": "one born out of some flashback to his"}, {"end": "00:55:32", "start": "00:55:27", "text": "appendecttomy operation. I find it"}, {"end": "00:55:33", "start": "00:55:30", "text": "rather hard to accept this easy"}, {"end": "00:55:36", "start": "00:55:32", "text": "explanation, having witnessed David's"}, {"end": "00:55:40", "start": "00:55:33", "text": "reactions and obvious terror during the"}, {"end": "00:55:43", "start": "00:55:36", "text": "hypnotic regressions, he states."}, {"end": "00:55:45", "start": "00:55:40", "text": "No matter how terrifying or bizarre the"}, {"end": "00:55:48", "start": "00:55:43", "text": "circumstances, the subconscious mind"}, {"end": "00:55:50", "start": "00:55:45", "text": "records all it has seen. Perhaps in"}, {"end": "00:55:52", "start": "00:55:48", "text": "response to the right questions from"}, {"end": "00:55:54", "start": "00:55:50", "text": "specialists without preconceived ideas"}, {"end": "00:55:56", "start": "00:55:52", "text": "against the possibility of alien"}, {"end": "00:56:00", "start": "00:55:54", "text": "visitation, we may solve the mystery of"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:55:56", "text": "the flying saucer from the minds of UFO"}, {"end": "00:56:03", "start": "00:56:00", "text": "contactees."}, {"end": "00:56:09", "start": "00:56:03", "text": "What a phenomenal little read through"}, {"end": "00:56:11", "start": "00:56:06", "text": "that was. Absolutely fantastic. With"}, {"end": "00:56:13", "start": "00:56:09", "text": "each and every story that I read"}, {"end": "00:56:17", "start": "00:56:11", "text": "through, my conviction level jumps by"}, {"end": "00:56:20", "start": "00:56:13", "text": "maybe a fraction of a percentage."}, {"end": "00:56:22", "start": "00:56:17", "text": "It isn't so much the exact description"}, {"end": "00:56:25", "start": "00:56:20", "text": "of the aliens that makes it more"}, {"end": "00:56:28", "start": "00:56:22", "text": "convincing to me, but it's the sheer"}, {"end": "00:56:31", "start": "00:56:25", "text": "number of reports and and as stated by"}, {"end": "00:56:33", "start": "00:56:28", "text": "the author of this article. Sure, the"}, {"end": "00:56:35", "start": "00:56:31", "text": "skin might be different, the description"}, {"end": "00:56:38", "start": "00:56:33", "text": "of the eyes, the beings themselves, the"}, {"end": "00:56:41", "start": "00:56:35", "text": "the language they use or the technology"}, {"end": "00:56:43", "start": "00:56:38", "text": "that they're using might vary, but there"}, {"end": "00:56:45", "start": "00:56:41", "text": "is a consistent"}, {"end": "00:56:47", "start": "00:56:43", "text": "throughine here, and that is that"}, {"end": "00:56:49", "start": "00:56:45", "text": "they're happening. This exists. This is"}, {"end": "00:56:53", "start": "00:56:47", "text": "happening to these people."}, {"end": "00:56:57", "start": "00:56:49", "text": "Every case that we read through"}, {"end": "00:57:00", "start": "00:56:53", "text": "in this last hour happened within a 2 or"}, {"end": "00:57:03", "start": "00:56:57", "text": "threeear period in the 1970s."}, {"end": "00:57:04", "start": "00:57:00", "text": "And there's so so many more. It's it's"}, {"end": "00:57:07", "start": "00:57:03", "text": "not for nothing that I come back to that"}, {"end": "00:57:09", "start": "00:57:04", "text": "over and over again. You know,"}, {"end": "00:57:12", "start": "00:57:07", "text": "it might be easy to dismiss one case or"}, {"end": "00:57:14", "start": "00:57:09", "text": "two cases, but when it jumps into the"}, {"end": "00:57:17", "start": "00:57:12", "text": "thousands, and these cases are by a"}, {"end": "00:57:21", "start": "00:57:14", "text": "varying amount of people from a varied"}, {"end": "00:57:23", "start": "00:57:17", "text": "amount of professions and backgrounds,"}, {"end": "00:57:25", "start": "00:57:21", "text": "like the the two plumbers there, or just"}, {"end": "00:57:29", "start": "00:57:23", "text": "some guy jacking his car up because his"}, {"end": "00:57:31", "start": "00:57:25", "text": "tire was flat. Like, these aren't people"}, {"end": "00:57:32", "start": "00:57:29", "text": "who are"}, {"end": "00:57:33", "start": "00:57:31", "text": "I can't say for sure, but it doesn't"}, {"end": "00:57:35", "start": "00:57:32", "text": "seem like these are people who are just"}, {"end": "00:57:37", "start": "00:57:33", "text": "completely unhinged. And for the most"}, {"end": "00:57:39", "start": "00:57:35", "text": "part, they have nothing to gain from it"}, {"end": "00:57:41", "start": "00:57:37", "text": "and everything to lose. Especially at a"}, {"end": "00:57:44", "start": "00:57:39", "text": "time where scrutiny was at a all-time"}, {"end": "00:57:46", "start": "00:57:41", "text": "high and people would be really quick to"}, {"end": "00:57:49", "start": "00:57:44", "text": "either dismiss you or to categorize you"}, {"end": "00:57:53", "start": "00:57:46", "text": "as an absolute loon. It just makes it"}, {"end": "00:57:56", "start": "00:57:49", "text": "that much more convincing."}, {"end": "00:57:56", "start": "00:57:53", "text": "You know,"}, {"end": "00:58:00", "start": "00:57:56", "text": "I'll tell you something."}, {"end": "00:58:04", "start": "00:57:59", "text": "Uh something that happened to me"}, {"end": "00:58:06", "start": "00:58:00", "text": "actually last night."}, {"end": "00:58:07", "start": "00:58:04", "text": "um wasn't sure if I was going to talk"}, {"end": "00:58:10", "start": "00:58:06", "text": "about this or if I was ever going to"}, {"end": "00:58:12", "start": "00:58:07", "text": "bring it up, but I I think it deserves"}, {"end": "00:58:14", "start": "00:58:10", "text": "to be"}, {"end": "00:58:19", "start": "00:58:12", "text": "mentioned."}, {"end": "00:58:22", "start": "00:58:14", "text": "Um I was talking to my father last night"}, {"end": "00:58:24", "start": "00:58:19", "text": "and my father is he's not one to"}, {"end": "00:58:26", "start": "00:58:22", "text": "speculate on this stuff. He's got a"}, {"end": "00:58:27", "start": "00:58:24", "text": "really hard time, you know, I talk to"}, {"end": "00:58:28", "start": "00:58:26", "text": "him about this stuff. He watches some of"}, {"end": "00:58:32", "start": "00:58:27", "text": "the videos, but he's he's always like,"}, {"end": "00:58:35", "start": "00:58:28", "text": "\"I don't don't really buy it.\" you know,"}, {"end": "00:58:37", "start": "00:58:32", "text": "I can't blame him."}, {"end": "00:58:39", "start": "00:58:35", "text": "And"}, {"end": "00:58:42", "start": "00:58:37", "text": "I was talking about abductions. I was"}, {"end": "00:58:45", "start": "00:58:39", "text": "talking about, I think, John Max's work."}, {"end": "00:58:45", "start": "00:58:42", "text": "And"}, {"end": "00:58:51", "start": "00:58:45", "text": "he goes,"}, {"end": "00:58:53", "start": "00:58:48", "text": "\"You know, I have a story"}, {"end": "00:58:56", "start": "00:58:51", "text": "and maybe one day I'll tell you about"}, {"end": "00:58:58", "start": "00:58:53", "text": "it.\""}, {"end": "00:58:59", "start": "00:58:56", "text": "Immediately piqu my interest. I'm like,"}, {"end": "00:59:01", "start": "00:58:58", "text": "\"Wait,"}, {"end": "00:59:03", "start": "00:58:59", "text": "what?\""}, {"end": "00:59:06", "start": "00:59:01", "text": "Um, so I I prompted I said, \"Can you can"}, {"end": "00:59:11", "start": "00:59:03", "text": "you tell me now?\" And he said, \"Sure.\""}, {"end": "00:59:11", "start": "00:59:06", "text": "And he was incredibly reluctant. Um,"}, {"end": "00:59:15", "start": "00:59:11", "text": "yeah, if you knew my father, you would"}, {"end": "00:59:18", "start": "00:59:13", "text": "understand. Like, he's just not the type"}, {"end": "00:59:21", "start": "00:59:15", "text": "to bring stuff like this up or to"}, {"end": "00:59:24", "start": "00:59:18", "text": "entertain it whatsoever."}, {"end": "00:59:27", "start": "00:59:21", "text": "Highly skeptical guy. But he said that"}, {"end": "00:59:28", "start": "00:59:24", "text": "when he was around 10 years old, he was"}, {"end": "00:59:30", "start": "00:59:27", "text": "delivering newspapers and it was"}, {"end": "00:59:34", "start": "00:59:28", "text": "somewhere in Montreal. Newspapers or"}, {"end": "00:59:36", "start": "00:59:30", "text": "flyers, I can't remember. And it was"}, {"end": "00:59:38", "start": "00:59:34", "text": "broad daylight in the afternoon,"}, {"end": "00:59:41", "start": "00:59:36", "text": "beautiful day outside."}, {"end": "00:59:44", "start": "00:59:38", "text": "And he goes into one of these apartment"}, {"end": "00:59:46", "start": "00:59:41", "text": "buildings to drop off the flyers."}, {"end": "00:59:52", "start": "00:59:44", "text": "He does that. And when he comes back"}, {"end": "00:59:54", "start": "00:59:46", "text": "outside, it is now nighttime,"}, {"end": "00:59:56", "start": "00:59:52", "text": "not evening. This is summer. This is"}, {"end": "00:59:59", "start": "00:59:54", "text": "nighttime. The stars are out. Probably"}, {"end": "01:00:02", "start": "00:59:56", "text": "well past 10 p.m. Now, as a 10-year-old"}, {"end": "01:00:04", "start": "00:59:59", "text": "boy,"}, {"end": "01:00:06", "start": "01:00:02", "text": "he would not be allowed to be out that"}, {"end": "01:00:09", "start": "01:00:04", "text": "late. You know, he was swiftly"}, {"end": "01:00:13", "start": "01:00:06", "text": "reprimanded from my grandfather uh upon"}, {"end": "01:00:16", "start": "01:00:09", "text": "entering his home because he could not"}, {"end": "01:00:18", "start": "01:00:13", "text": "account for his missing time or where he"}, {"end": "01:00:20", "start": "01:00:16", "text": "had been. His father had asked him,"}, {"end": "01:00:22", "start": "01:00:18", "text": "\"Where were you?\" to which my dad"}, {"end": "01:00:25", "start": "01:00:20", "text": "responded,"}, {"end": "01:00:28", "start": "01:00:22", "text": "\"I don't know."}, {"end": "01:00:29", "start": "01:00:25", "text": "It was the afternoon"}, {"end": "01:00:33", "start": "01:00:28", "text": "and then when he came back outside it"}, {"end": "01:00:33", "start": "01:00:29", "text": "was the night.\""}, {"end": "01:00:37", "start": "01:00:33", "text": "My dad had never even told my mom that"}, {"end": "01:00:39", "start": "01:00:35", "text": "story."}, {"end": "01:00:42", "start": "01:00:37", "text": "And so"}, {"end": "01:00:46", "start": "01:00:39", "text": "I just found it, you know, it's one of"}, {"end": "01:00:48", "start": "01:00:42", "text": "those things that for me incredibly high"}, {"end": "01:00:49", "start": "01:00:46", "text": "conviction on that on something like"}, {"end": "01:00:51", "start": "01:00:48", "text": "that. you know, it's not something"}, {"end": "01:00:56", "start": "01:00:49", "text": "that's not something you're likely to"}, {"end": "01:00:58", "start": "01:00:51", "text": "forget is an event like that. And um"}, {"end": "01:01:00", "start": "01:00:56", "text": "yeah, I was just I'm really thankful"}, {"end": "01:01:02", "start": "01:00:58", "text": "that my dad, you know, decided to share"}, {"end": "01:01:05", "start": "01:01:00", "text": "that story with me. So, Dad, if you're"}, {"end": "01:01:06", "start": "01:01:02", "text": "watching, thanks for thanks for sharing"}, {"end": "01:01:08", "start": "01:01:05", "text": "that. And I know it takes a lot to be"}, {"end": "01:01:11", "start": "01:01:06", "text": "open and vulnerable with this type of"}, {"end": "01:01:13", "start": "01:01:08", "text": "stuff. So, I appreciate it. And I"}, {"end": "01:01:16", "start": "01:01:11", "text": "appreciate everyone who does come"}, {"end": "01:01:19", "start": "01:01:13", "text": "forward with these stories, often"}, {"end": "01:01:21", "start": "01:01:16", "text": "stranger than fiction."}, {"end": "01:01:23", "start": "01:01:19", "text": "As we all move forward into this new"}, {"end": "01:01:26", "start": "01:01:21", "text": "paradigm which is whimsical and"}, {"end": "01:01:28", "start": "01:01:23", "text": "wonderful. Uh"}, {"end": "01:01:29", "start": "01:01:26", "text": "I want to encourage all of you to"}, {"end": "01:01:32", "start": "01:01:28", "text": "suspend your disbelief when hearing"}, {"end": "01:01:33", "start": "01:01:29", "text": "these things. Keep an open heart and an"}, {"end": "01:01:35", "start": "01:01:32", "text": "open mind when listening to people who"}, {"end": "01:01:37", "start": "01:01:33", "text": "have something important to tell you."}, {"end": "01:01:39", "start": "01:01:35", "text": "Let's encourage more of these stories to"}, {"end": "01:01:42", "start": "01:01:37", "text": "come out and create a judgment-free"}, {"end": "01:01:44", "start": "01:01:39", "text": "environment for these people to express"}, {"end": "01:01:47", "start": "01:01:42", "text": "themselves in. Thank you everybody for"}, {"end": "01:01:49", "start": "01:01:44", "text": "watching. I appreciate you guys. And uh"}, {"end": "01:01:50", "start": "01:01:47", "text": "we got a very special episode next week."}, {"end": "01:01:52", "start": "01:01:49", "text": "We got a guest. We're hopping back into"}, {"end": "01:01:54", "start": "01:01:50", "text": "skiff. Uh I think you're really going to"}, {"end": "01:01:58", "start": "01:01:52", "text": "enjoy this one."}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:01:54", "text": "We'll see you then. Peace and love."}, {"end": "01:02:14", "start": "01:01:58", "text": "[Music]"}]